The Wise Men: Last Men Standing

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Well, it's come to this, Aaron. Yes. We're the last men standing. I believe it started this. Oh, no, we started with Santino.

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Yeah. That was the first.

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Hey. You got to finish our story, bro. Yeah. So is this one we now proverbially like, we're like, hey, we're going to be a team, but then one of us turns on each other. I mean, which has to have to.

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Wow, wow. You're just going to just spell it all out, huh? We're not going to play it out.

Speaker 157.54s - 77.48s

We got 17 weeks of TV to put together here, Aaron. And you already turned on me on the first episode. This will never work. No, no, it will. You know why? Because I think when ratings start to go down, I can just air some cell phone footage ofus getting into a confrontation near Waffle House with each other.

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Right, there you go.

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And that people will really pay attention then. Right. Yeah.

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Hey, that one got me, man. Hey, you know what would be funny is if, let's say, if you and I were going to redo a feud, right?

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But we both had to write each other's promos. You know something? I think if we did that, it would be just as good. No, yeah. Because, like. And here's the thing.It has to be on teleprompter. You can't see what the other guy makes. It's going to make you, so you don't have time to get out of it. Oh. That's a new, yeah, that's definitely.

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How good are you that you can get over your buddies writing promos for you that you know are going to bury you?

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That would be the ultimate test, right?

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You know? Yeah.

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Listen, as a self-proclaimed ham and egger from the wrong side of Massachusetts, a guy who sleeps in its own fluids every night because I'm just

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afraid of water.

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Let me tell you something, brother. Oh, my God.

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I would just be like, I would have you say stuff like, you know, I know Aaron is the better

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wrestler.

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Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I would just go straight forward. Yeah, as an angry black man who uses race to get everywhere I need to go in life,

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I understand that I'm not going to play the race card this one. I have to pull the wrestling card and... Yeah, that would end badly, but it would be awesome for about two to three weeks. Yeah, we both end up getting fired, but it would be awesome.

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Yeah.

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It would be awesome.

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We literally be back on here trying to start a podcast again. Yeah. Oh, man.

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So a lot of happened last week. You know, I didn't pay much attention to WrestleMania EVENT. Just it's just the, you just kind of get. I didn't pay much attention to WrestleMania EVENT. Just, it's just the, you just kind of get, you know,pass it, you kind of check on your buddies. I was happy for Drew, and then I was kind of mad. I felt like Drew. I get the storylines and the nature of the business,but I think Drew's hands down, been one of the biggest, brightest stars who looks the part, is the part. He lives it, he breathes it. Him and Seth PERSON was phenomenal.And for Damien Priest, congratulations. But the biggest thing that stood out to me was I just thought there was so many other ways to go in terms of getting guys over now. I think that's just changed so much. Like, if you watch, like, I watch WrestleMania 3 in its entirety on Easter. Like, that's my tradition as I'll pop in WrestleMania 3 EVENT and then, like, tell my kids, like, who this guy was and who that guy was, you know. Piper Adonis PERSON.

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Oh, Piper Adonis PERSON. Yep. You know what? You know what was a really good match? And I just didn't really get a chance because you get so caught up. And here's the thing.

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There's probably five Hall of Fame matches in WrestleMania 3 EVENT alone.

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Yeah. Maybe six.

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Okay, because I'm going to tell you what. The Strike Force and Morocco and Orton PERSON is one of the best tag matches ever. Like they just, Orton and Morocco just were such good heels, man. You know, like, you didn't even know who Tom Zink PERSON was and the place was going crazy for him. Yeah, yeah. You know, and.Go ahead. Orton worked Easter weekend. Orton, I did one of my like two signings that I do a year, right? I was in West Virginia and I was signing next to Cowboy Bob PERSON. He worked at, right? It was crazy.Oh, and he probably still can go. Yes. Yes. So, sorry, I didn't mean the side track. No, no, but that's a... See, I think someone like...I think he should be in the Hall of Fame ORG as Ace. And I think he should be in the sense of we're getting weird with the Hall of Fame ORG. And I think he should be in the Hall of Fame as Cowboy Bob Orton PERSON. Because he was the best heater. And I was a heater. Nobody.Like, him and Piper. Like, Piper gets all that credit, but it was that, it was, you got Cowboy Bob standing behind him with his arms cross and every once in a while, that deep voice on you, you tell him, Piper. Like, it was one of the, like, it just, he doesn't get enough credit. No, he doesn't. But it's funny, right? Like, when we're talking the strike force, which is a team that doesn't get mentioned enough today, in my opinion, right? Like we had-

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Which version? Which version was better? Tito and Rick PERSON?

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I say yes.

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But, I mean, because Tito Santana PERSON is another one.

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There was no, in my opinion, there was never a question of who the strike force was. That was always them, you know? But it just, okay. And I feel like every time we talk about wrestling now, there's that elephant in the room, right? Because Zink PERSON just disappeared. He was just gone. They were literally in the thick of things.Yep. They went over at WrestleMania 3, which is huge back then. They beat two of the greatest heels to ever lace up boots. And then they just disappeared.There wasn't an attack. It was just like he just didn't show up to work one day. And it kind of makes, and then eventually he showed up, I remember at WCW ORG as the Z Man. The Z man, yep. But it was likesome time between it. It wasn't like overnight. Well, I think at WCW ORG as the Z-Man. The Z-Man, yep. But it was like some time between it. It wasn't like overnight. Well, I think, you know, again, and I'm not trying to hatch old things, right? We're talking about moving forward. But if you do a degree of research into Tom Zink PERSON and some of the claims he made and given recent events, you can probably connect a few dots, right?

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But that's the way it was then.

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I mean, that, like, how different would his career have been when neither of us were there?

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So we don't know. Yeah, we don't know that. I'm just, it's just, it makes you think now when guys, and it was always like the same kind of look, too,

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as like the Jim Powers, the Tom Zink PERSON kind of look, you know. Dude. It is, right? It reminds kind of look, you know. Dude. It is, right?

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It reminds me the young stallions, man. Yeah, young stallions. Like, yeah, like, what?

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Talk about guys that hated each other. And, like, you could tell, right? Like, I remember even as a kid, and then correct me if I'm wrong, right? It was almost like that was the first original where, like, when Vince went national went national and like the WWF ORG had its identity at the time. Right. Like this is the template cookie cutter for what we want.Tan, mullet, jacked. Yeah. Right? And like you had you had that with the strike force for like the up and comers.

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And then you look at like Paul Roma and Jim Powers PERSON and you're like on paper. Rockers. Yes. Red trunks. give him awesome jackets and give them really cool entrance music right

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i'm not like that ant strike force was was awesome you had jimmy hart writing it who was of course award-winning artist from the gentries GPE yep and like you created this whole kind of it was this rock and roll vibe right that that that's where the company was going. But you realized like, you talk about just not jelling. Like it's, and again, this is not a shot on either one of them individually. But sometimes when you have a partner, I mean, shit just doesn't work out no matter how hard you try.Yeah. Just if the chemistry is not there, it's just not there.

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And, or sometimes you just see things differently.

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You know, I think about my time when I was in tons of funk.

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I look back on it, like, Tensai PERSON was always trying to, like, explain to me how it, like, don't look at it that way.

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Look at it this way. Like, and I just wasn't having it that way. Look at it this way. And I just wasn't having it. I didn't want to hear it. So it became a bigger distraction. Not that, like, we could have done it.I mean, at one point, look like we're going to be tagged chance, but let's be honest. Nobody was beating the shield at that time.

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Not even close. I mean, and the direction they were going and given where the three guys of the shield ended up. I get it.

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But he was always trying to tell me, like, try to enjoy the moment. You know what I'm saying? Like, you're worrying about stuff, you know, weeks down, like, you're worrying about all the wrong things, you know. And my thing was, well, that's easy for you to say, you were in the attitude error, you were this, you were that.

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You know, but it was always had a level of respect with Ten's eye and never like, never dismiss what he said. I just didn't take it

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to the next week with me. You know, I'd get through the day with it. But then I'd walk back through with the same look on my face like, man,and I think I was just always frustrated because I felt like, I'm better than this, and I don't like this, and I really hate untuff people telling me how to be tough.Yeah. Guys have never been a fight in their life is explaining to me what is tough, and I'm trying to keep a straight face half the time. You know, because I never fought, and I've been probably bouncing clubs, bodyguarding, being a growing up being the way I did,I've probably been in a hundred fights, maybe more, especially in saddle ranch and stuff. I was fighting two, three guys at night sometimes. It was crazy.They weren't long fights, but I don't ever remember yelling, rah, or beating on my, well, I did be on my chest sometimes playing around,like afterwards. But, but like, I was out of smirk. You know, all the guys that I grew up with that could throw, they had a cool calm because they weren't worried about shit you had doing. The dude in the bar who's yelling and screaming, he's scared. He's peacocking.

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The guy who's sipping his beer and looking at you with a smirk and is like, I will ring the bell. That's the dude who could fight because why would he be afraid if he knew what he brought

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to the table? Yes. And that's the thing. We're like, yes, it's so true, man. Like people, like that whole bravado. And again, I've never claimed to be a tough guy.I desp-

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Most guys who can actually throw, don't.

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Because you don't have to claim it. Because the only time you'll see it is if somebody fucked up. So there's no reason to walk around be like, I'm a badass, just to ask anybody. Why do you need to tell me that? Like, what are you really hiding?

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Yeah. Yeah.

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And like, even that, and that was a problem that I, and you were there for this. When like, there was someone like, oh, well, you know, the standout character doesn't seem very tough like no you idiot that is the point points like

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You're trying to be a heel can you be like let's just say okay let's say you are also Bulletproof PERSON tough the smartest guy in the room

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What does the baby face have? What can he possibly do?

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You're gonna be you're gonna bury him on the thing with your intellect.

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Then the bell rings. You're going to punch him in the face and knock him out with a. So what's next? Yeah. And that's the things where it's just, it's just crazy, man. Like, it was one of those deals.I just feel like you do the best you can. And like every time I've ever kicked someone in the face or punch someone in the face or slam them down it's look believable okay and that's like that's the artof this right like you you create the illusion of violence but how you how you get there that's where your character comes in right like you body slamming a guy and me body slamming a guy are two very, very different things.You drop an elbow on someone and the building shakes. When I drop an elbow, I do that little stupid thing in a twirl and... But it was over.

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And you acted like the building shook. And that's what... See, the thing is, like, you can say what you want about flare. But flare was a heel. As soon as he got hit in the mouth, he thing is, like, Flare... Like, you can say what you want about Flair PERSON, but Flair was a heel. As soon as he got hit in the mouth, he fell apart.Now, he could talk... His promo was... He'd cut his promo. He had the suits. He had the titles. But, you know,Ricky Morton PERSON would come in there and punch him and whoop his ass. You know what I'm saying? Like, he gave the baby face something. You're a better wrestler

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to me and you're a tougher man than me. You have to. But they don't do... But now it's like, everybody, here's the deal. Everyone wants to be a, uh, a piper on the mic and Brock PERSON in the ring.You can't be both. There's nothing left. Yes. You know what I'm saying? How much of a bad day at work is it to where you got to have a pro, like, you have a problem with Brock PERSON and he buries you, right?With some intellectual saves your shit. Then the bell rings and F5s you in the third row. But hey, the lockup looked good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.Like goodbye. You got to have your mistake game needs to be as strong as your promo game. You need to, is when you have physical attributes, you have to be able to make mistakes for other, whether it's slow and missing something, whether it's making a mistake. And I remember one time, what was it? I'll leave him out of it, but he was in a marathon man. He had to wrestle like three guys in one night to appease.He's being punished, I think, by the, we the people or whatever. And I remember one of the agents said, hey, would it be cool in the third match that you were visibly fatigued? Like you were running out of steam, you know? Yeah. And the response was, no, I never blow up in the ring.And I sat there with a smirk on my face going, well, shit, you're just, you're just too good.

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You wrestle three superstars.

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You're winning all three, but you can't just survive on the third one.

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Like maybe the first one, the guy goes, hey, it's your night.

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You make short work of them.

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The second one's a battle on the third one. You're coming it's your night. You make short work of them. The second one's a battle and the third one. You're coming down in the ring. You're still sweating. You got, you know, you do the best you can. You run out of gas and you just find a way and the heel makes a mistake and you capitalize. I think that's a great story. Nope, I don't, I don't blow up in the ring. Hold it right there. We'll be back in a bit. Did you know that every major diaper company either financially or vocally supports abortion?If that appalls you and you're looking to support a baby brand that aligns with your pro-life, pro-family views, then every life is your solution. Every life firmly believes that regardless of where someone is from, what they look like, or whether they were planned or unplanned, every baby is a miracle from God worthy of love, protection, and celebration. Every Life ORG offers high-performing, supremely soft, premium diapers and wipes delivered right to your doorstep. Their diapers are crafted without fragrances, dyes, lotions,latex, paraben, or thylates. And you can feel good knowing that every purchase with Every Life contributes to changing lives through their support of pro-life organizations and pregnancy resource centers. EveryLife ORG is not just changing diapers, they're changing lives. Visit EveryLife.com to learn more. That's EveryLife.com. And don't forget to use promo code Duffy 10 for an exclusive 10% discount on your first order today.

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Then, you know, yeah, like, okay, dude, you're a mark. You know what I mean?

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Right. Well, okay, but that's what I thought. But then while I'm sitting there and realizing

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that there will be people watching saying, oh, look at him, he's blown up. Hmm. That's how fucked up it is. Yeah, you're right. And I'm sitting, because this is a veteran. This wasn't like some, this wasn't like some Freeman PERSON.This is a former champion. You know what I'm saying? And he literally was sitting there like, I can't blow up in the ring.

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Because he knew the audience of one would see it and wouldn't see, oh, it's great theater. And to prove it, the deal with you and me in the leg, where I wore the damn boot everywhere I went. You're right.

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And what I get in trouble for? Being slow getting in the ring.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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It was too believable. Yeah. Can someone give us a memo, please?

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So I guess I should have forgot it during my comeback, too.

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Because my comeback, I move around a lot. I'm shooting a guy, T-bone a guy halfway across the ring. I do hard on the paint where I'm running, jumping in the corner. Then I hit him with something else, either to follow humanity or the grip or whatever the hell the deal is. But all that's boom, boom, boom, moving.But if I only got one wheel, then something has to, I can't do the same comeback. Or the comeback turns into a falsie because I'm selling my leg that was clipped out from underneath me on a, and you're thinking, and we're thinking we're making magic here, like the guys before us. But if the audience of one's having a bad day, oh, look, Brodus PERSON is out of shape. Pull the deal. Yeah.Because I remember Triple Hays PERSON goes, hey, man, old man, really don't like the limp in and all the other stuff. He says, you look slow out there. And I wanted to say, is he a fucking mark? Maybe that's what I should have said. Well, you know, and instead of being like, all, man, I'll fix it. Because you just, you just get so frustrated, you know, like,

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you might have been like, you know, let me talk to him. Like, bro, you had me play, I pretended to break my leg on TV and it tricked old school

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agents that really thought that you broke my leg. So I'm working something here. Is that okay with you? You know, maybe what's the point of being attacked and trying to get the heel heat on the house shows and shit?It's not like I'm going to get 45 minutes of TV tonight. You're not going to allow me to have a 12-minute promo. You know, we got to do with what we got.

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You know what I'm saying?

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And I think, as we're having this conversation, I'm thinking that's probably what I should have done. All it would have done was would have sped up the inevitable.

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Or it had been like, you know, like Ted PERSON, like no one's ever talked to me that way before. Yeah.

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You know what I'm saying? It's like, this guy's got it.

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Yeah, you know?

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Oh, so I'm not getting a push? Oh, no, this guy's got it. Yeah, you know. Oh, so am I getting a push?

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Oh, no, no, you're fired. But I dig it, man. I dig it. You'll never work in this business again, kid. But, man, boy, do you got to set on you.

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Good job, you know.

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Yeah.

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I mean, hey, it's like, you know, because the people who trained us, right? Like, we were trained by great storytellers

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yes exactly they understand how like the nucleus of the business works right and where people have gotten so far removed from it that look wrestling is evolving into something completely different right where with our was, again, everyone knows out it's entertainment, but we had the

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characters and the believability to where people suspended their disbelief and had this been a territory system or, again, even the 80s for that matter, like, we know what business we would have done. And everyone sees it to this day, they talk about it. So it's like, okay, we about it. So it's like, okay, we have that, but it's just, it's testament to how weird the machine has gotten.

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Right? Well, the machine is not a machine anymore. It's, it, and hopefully you like to see that change. But, but here's the problem. I think the biggest, well, one of the problems, two,

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the problems that make it to where it's hard to get back to the way it was One, I don't think you should call shots and be in front of the camera. I think that's a, I think that's a complete, you're not going to not push yourself. Agreed. You're not. You shouldn't be allowed to book and make decisions on talent if you're in front of the camera. Because you're going to keep pushing your stuff.Yeah. No, I mean, without stuff. Yeah. No, I mean,

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without question. Like right now, like, and again, I'm not throwing a shade here. I'm just stating the facts.Right now in WrestleMania EVENT,

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the world champion was beat the night before. By the, whatever people's champion, the final boss,

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right?

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So who's really the champ?

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Whose belt is more significant?

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Yeah. Because I beat you. In the ring, middle of the ring, one, two, three. Well, belts are a joke now.

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Yeah. I mean, I'm sorry. But like, like, and that cut, like, the way I watched, right? I don't know. One guy's got the, the universal.

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The other guy has this weird-looking version of big gold. Like, why the hell can't we keep big gold in the winged eagle, which is the way it should have been, my opinion.

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But that's it. Yeah, I agree. And then you have the people's champ or whatever the hell his new title is, which is the most dominant title because he beat the current champ.

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Yeah.

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And it's like completely to me, that is

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like at the core, right? Like what's wrong with the industry? To where like at least an NWA ORG, right? I mean, hey, as a company, we've gone through ups and downs and everything, right? Where we're startingto get our footing again, truly get our footing again. And it's like, keep the emphasis on the world title. That world title has to mean something, right? And it's, we're starting to see, you know, and you know this because you, you know,you've been keeping eyes and talking to us. Like we've been gaining more and more of an audience because of it. And I think that's the simplicity that's just gone. Where everyone wants to just come back and for themselves.

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Here's the thing. I watched that young

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kid, Osprey, I think it was. Through Shade at Triple H. Yeah. That was probably the stupidest thing he's ever done in hisyoung career. And the kid has all the talent in the world. All of it. Like he's, but it's misguided. It's all over the place. And the kid has all the talent in the world. All of it. Like he's, but it's misguided. It's all over the place. And nowyou throwing shade at the biggest company, which has an interest in you for, what, 3,000 people and I'm being polite? So the biggest, and here's the thing, the problem withAWA ORG, you know what the problem of the AWA is? The boys, they're going to ruin it. They're absolutely going to ruin it. Tony Kahn PERSON does not need profit, okay? Tony Kahn PERSON is doing this because you could say whatever you want. Negative, he obviously loves the business.

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He's giving fans another opportunity to watch wrestling at a high level on national TV. It ain't cheap. Okay?

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And he's paying guys salaries that they would not get anywhere else. Not even close. No, and that's the thing. To like that now lowers the bar. I'm sorry.

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It does. No, no, no. You're right. No, no. We me give a shit.

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We're at different places in our life. And so I'm not down, because I don't need a job from A.W. Neither do you. No, like, and I'm, you know what I'm saying?

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I don't need the fucking job. I can say whatever it wants.

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I think Tony Kahn PERSON has been a gift to wrestling. The problem is is that the boys don't know how to take a gift. They ruin it. The biggest, the focus should have been last night, should have been Samoa Joe and Dustin Rhodes. That should have been the focus, right? Swerve, I could, swerve is doing everything right. But Triple H and CM Punk PERSON, who work for different companies, were the biggest stories of last night.That is a problem. And there's this great Samoa Joe and Dustin PERSON do an exploder in the middle of the ring, and it was phenomenal and great falsie. Problem was we saw one off the second rope three matches before. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?Like that's the boys. That's not con. And there's no, like, apparently like, all right. So here's what I'm going to say, because this is, like I said, I'm in a position where I don't really need this, right? But like, the standard of what is acceptable as a contracted television wrestler today is abhorrent.It is so far removed to where, and you know what, I don't give a shit if I sound old because I sound right. 20 years ago, if you said I am a contracted talent with whatever, and there was only one company at the time, right? It was right after WCW ORG and out of business, right? But even then so, like, that meant you could at least get in there and have a passable match and you had timing and you had the little things done. Now we have, okay, you have a cool outfit and an Instagram ORG following,and oh, yeah, you'll get a contract and you're a team no you're not you may be a good performer or a good acrobat or whatever you are you are not a television professional wrestler heldto the standard that was 20 years ago you are not even close because the only way some of these people would even be allowed in the locker room is if they were bringing us sandwichesand if I could talk to Tony Con I don't think he listens but oh I think he probably but here's the thing I think he probably the problem is this conversation doesn't need to be happening by this is what the back should sound likebut there's this you know WWB ORG guys would have stuff and then you know the old man walk in and rip it all up and then you're done you know you WWB guys would have stuff and then, you know, the old man walk in and rip it all up and then you're done. You know, you get it, and then you have seven minutes to write raw. Good luck, fellas, because I don't like it. Butthe boys are ruining AED because the work, there's no, you've got to get stories. You need, when you look at that eye in this, if you don't see kids and families in the audience on national TV events, you got to get stories. You need, when you look at that audience, if you don't see kids and families in the audience on national TV events, you're done. You have to grow your audience.You can't steal. Like, oh, hey, we're going to get some guys to come over because here's a deal. Audience don't go with you. Every wrestler who's like on his way out thinks like, oh man, planet funk's rolling with me to impact.No, they're not. They're staying because they're the universe. You know, guys always think. And it's not just wrestling. A guy's in NFL's career is not going, oh, I'm going to Canada GPE. They're not going with you, bruh.They never go with you. They're there, and they're like, what's next? And here's the thing. There will always be a next. There will always be a next. There will always be a new guy because that's the way it works. You know, in all sports, in all entertainment, nothing's promised. But the boys are killing AW to cut a promo on Triple Age ORG was about thestupidest thing the young kid could do because there's a deal. He's not going anywhere. He's not going to forget. And eventually, if you're going to be the best, you're going to end up in the WWE ORG. The only guy who was able to not do it, and he did it at the very, and it didn't count, in my opinion, was Sting PERSON. Yeah.

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Because he had a viable place. He had a viable place to go to make money to where he can live his life comfortably and stayed because he wanted to be there or whatever.

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I don't know his stuff, but I'm just saying.

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You don't bury the other program on your program because it only adds ratings to the other program.

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The entire shouldn't have been talking about Dustin being screwed last night by Samoa Joe hitting him with a belt in the face

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and costing him an opportunity at the title no. CM Punk PERSON was right and listen I like Phil Phil and I like cool I got no problems with Phil Phil PERSON was fair to me gave me opportunity, had a match with me that allowed me to have a match with him at Raw WORK_OF_ART thatthey wanted to be like it was and he was like I'm not saying this I'm not saying the shit because I know he had a lot of respect for me and TJ PERSON, and he did that. So it feels what he is.

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He'll come up to you. I remember he came up to me when I came back from filming the movie and the NXT ORG and I had to, they had dyed my hair blue in the movie. And I didn't cut my, I didn't feel like cutting my mohawk. And I came back to TV and it was like a little bit of the blue was still in there or whatever.He says, hey, man, you got it all. You don't need that blue hair. Please cut it off. And I was says, hey, man, you got it all. You don't need that blue hair. Please cut it off. And I was like, hey, man, I appreciate you taking time to watch my match. Yeah. And I went and I was like, yeah, you know what?And I cut it, you know? Like, you're right. He's right. He's right. Dude, like, him and I, we have been cool since day one and I was like 2004, never had a crossword between us.And then, like, I consider him. Like, again, we don't text and hang, but, like, I'm friendly with him. You know, it's always been, every interactions are positive with him. So I got no, no heat at all with him either, man. No, I think, again, people who, again, but also we weren't competing with him at the time for his spot. So those who did it right back, them who clashed heads. Because there's a deal.Everyone's fighting for one spot. They're not going to add extra spots for you. And guys play by any means necessary, as we've learned shockingly over the last three or four months.

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But I always judge people on their interactions with me.

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I don't listen to what other people say. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, like, the problem is, right? Like, okay, yes, there's one spot, but I've always had the philosophy. Fine.If this is one spot, I will create a spot for myself, right? And then when you do that and it works, it like oh no that's the issue right but if you look at and i'm not comparing myself to these people but look at stone cold steve austin he was given the opportunity to get something over and he was pushed accordingly right the rock same thing it was based on fan response and in my career when i have generated a great kind of fan response that's grown and grown and grown, it's like they give you so much and they cut it out, right?It's the same thing with you. Now, for whatever reason, right? I'm not, this is not an accusatory podcast or anything like that. We're just bitballing and bull's shit. But you tend to think of that and go, okay, well, obviously there is limited opportunity. And it's cool now, right?And people don't understand. And this is like to the boys in AEW ORG, the locker room, like the opportunity they have. If they could just listen to some people, right? Like, again, Tony Kahn PERSON, the amount of resources he has put into our industry has created a lot of opportunity. How you're delegating those resources, you know, if you could change that, right? Hire a booker, someone to do the storylines, hire someone, you know, there's going to haveto clean house with talent, get select people in there and really create something awesome as opposing to creating content because content, you know, like, there's too much focus on content, not enough focus on quality.

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Taking shots at the WWE ORG when you're trying to build your brand is stupid. I'm telling you right now.

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And having, and talent going out there and like, oh, man, I just buried Triple H. I said that he slept his way with his, you know, whatever to get where he goes. Triple H PERSON was getting finishes in pig shit for a while. You know what I'm saying? Hey, listen. Yeah.

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Triple H and I, the one thing we could always talk about was boxing, you know,

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and we were cool in the beginning and then after mania. And then all of a sudden we weren't. I never knew why. Didn't ask. Same here. Didn't really give a, to be honest, you didn't give a fuck.Like I was, push ORG was going to shit. I'm like, you got bills a fuck. To be honest, he didn't give a fuck. Like, I was, push ORG was going to shit. I'm like, you got bills to pay. We went from, hey,what's up to nothing to, to, he wants to talk to you about doing that shit with Ms. when what's his name came out? And he's like, you got a problem with it?And I was like, when have I had a problem with doing the work? And I was just like, you know what? Fuck this.I don't care. Fuck him. I don't care. You know, it was just like, he didn't care about me.I didn't care about him. I'm not wasting my drawer on. I'm not going to be like, hey, can we, he didn't care about me. I didn't care about him. That's the way I am. I'm not wasting my drawer on it. I'm not going to be like, hey, can we fix this? And that was where I was at then in my mindset. Is that good for your business?

Speaker 01991.5s - 1993.56s

And when you're your business? No, it's not.

Speaker 11994.2s - 2014.48s

Because, you know, hey, fuck that guy. That's the guy who decides whether you eat or don't eat in a lot of cases. Yeah. So, you know, having that attitude back towards them and saying like, hey, something I miss. I feel like our relationships change or something I'm not doing. You know what I'm saying?But at that point, I was just like, I'm lucky I don't punch somebody at work right now. I'm so frustrated.

Speaker 02015.32s - 2022.62s

So which would really, yeah, which would really fuck up some worlds to find out that some of your so-called super tough guys aren't that tough.

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But you look at that. But I never, when I see guys come out and they try to bury the other side of they try to bury somebody, you're making a huge mistake because it's not affecting Tony Kahn's bottom line. It's not going to affect AEW ORG's bottom line. Let's say shit don't work out.Let's say you get buried by whoever the top guys there are. So there's another situation where your things don't work out there. Now you're out of there. That bridge is burned or whatever the situation is. You've buried the other bridge by talking about it. Yeah.Oh, I'm just going to work the Indies LOC. Eventually you're going to get hurt. You got insurance, bro? Especially when you fly all over the place. And he fly, the dude does shit. He's like reinventing.He's like, he reminds me of the blue blazer of Owen Hart when Owen was first coming out. He is that sick. Now, with his aerial stuff, you know, psychology and stuff, that will come with time.

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And a couple of nights and not being able to sit up straight,

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Mike, here's some of that. But he's just a young kid, and I just, and I, I hate that he's, he's narrowing his opportunitiesto be the best at what he does by falling for this trap. Like, WCW ORG and, and Raw WORK_OF_ART were doing it, but they were both made.They were both made.

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You know what? I do disagree

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with you on one point where like maybe he'll get to psychology. Who's he going to learn it from? That's true. In order for him to get true psychology, he's going to have to go to WWE ORG because I don't see him out there. Now again,this is nothing against Will Osprey. I think I met him once and he was very, very kind. But like, go to Dustin PERSON. I mean, like, hey, how do you really do this? You don't

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you figure there would be more of that. Like, I would be such a sponge, right? And it's just sad.

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It really is. When I saw that stupid video of two guys who really didn't want to fight,

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they fight,

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I just saw it was an NXT match and I came back for my match and punk walked up to me just like he did him. And he criticized the growing my hair out thing. But he also, punk usually gives you a couple compliments before he throws it in or he'll throw it and then give you some comments. But he's coming up and talking to you because he sees something as a top guy. So, Taker PERSON was a to me my entire time there. He would tell his corny-ass jokes about my hair and I'd always had two or three lines for him, but he was Taker PERSON.You know it? Like I'd say something like, that motherfucker talking shit about me and burnt half his face. Nice, you're a millionaire and you've got the worst hair dye in the planet. All kinds of, you still wear an eyeliner? You know, there was stuff that I fired back, but he was Taker PERSON, so I didn't. I just took it.And I didn't want, and sometimes I was like, I remember one time, Edge PERSON, I'm wrestling Edge, the heavyweight champion on Smackdown WORK_OF_ART, and he tells me to fire up when I'm standing over him. So guess what? I did it. Came back through the curtain. Taker PERSON was waiting on me and was like, you're trying to win a championship and you're firing up.And I, my eyes started to look towards Adam PERSON, and I just went, my bad. You know, and Adam PERSON was standing there. Adam PERSON could have jumped in and been like oh hey I told him to do it and he didn't you know why because it was taker and we just took itand I got the brunt of it and I didn't like it but I didn't go to impact and get on the mic and start bearing everybody the things didn't go my way nobody knew my problems or my issues there because it was nobody's businessand I think once you make once you throw those shots where are you going to go so the biggest thing was Triple H and CM Punk PERSON so all those matches and all because it was nobody's business. And I think once you throw those shots, where are you going to go? So the biggest thing was Triple H and CM Punk PERSON. So all those matches and all that hard work that everybody did that night, no one's talking about.

Speaker 02256.72s - 2258.76s

For a video that didn't help anybody but punk, it's just basically what he said happened.

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Wow. Didn't help, you know, like what was the point of that?

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I think in their minds it was going to make him look bad?

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He got in more shots than he did his UFC ORG fight. You know what I'm saying? So it was like a win for him. And he had control.

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Like, Samoa Joe doesn't step in. It's, it was over. It was over.

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But should he be doing, should you be throwing hands at your workplace of business? No. Should he have been suspended for that? Thousand percent. Jungle Boy PERSON, I don't see what he did to be suspended. No. To be honest with you.

Speaker 02298.2s - 2301.68s

Okay. Now, I'm going to take Punk PERSON's side on this. Yeah. On this.

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I, what he did with that real glass bullshit and that is all that is, real glass. Why? Fans gonna tell, I mean, are you that insecure about yourself as a performer? Number one. And are you that inconsiderate of everyone else who's going to have to perform after you? Right.And then like, you're not clearing this with anybody. It's stupid.

Speaker 02328.76s - 2334.68s

Okay. Fill me in because I have no idea. What did he do? I thought he just had a bad match or something. No.

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The whole issue, like the whole impetus for this was Jungle Boy PERSON did a spot and wanted to use real glass. I don't know if it was a car window or lightning bulb, but he wanted to use actual real life, not fake at all, glass. And Punk PERSON pretty much said the same thing I just said. And Jungle Boy PERSON said, what?No, and like kind of fired up on him. Did he say something like, what do you want to do about it?

Speaker 02366.18s - 2370s

Or something like, like who the fuck are you?

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This is why, like, this is one of the reasons why Stephen Regal PERSON leaving AW burn so much because

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nobody has to fight.

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You don't have your hands at your side telling somebody to make a move. Like, who has these fights? Who fights like this?

Speaker 02386.48s - 2393.56s

Were you that close to somebody? Listen, if you're within a, if you're within eight, nine inches of me talking about a fight, I'm swinging.

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Like, it's a game. My hands are up. Like, let's go. We're past talking at this point. You're in my bubble and you're not one of my children or my woman. It's on, bro.We're going to throw. And usually I don't have, you know, I've never had like return fire. So, but I fire.

Speaker 02410.96s - 2418.6s

Yeah, like, hey, you know, good night, Irene PERSON, which is the name of my, which is the name of my truck, by the way.

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It was so great, watch the WrestleMania 3 because Irene PERSON.

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Yeah.

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But to that point, though, but I can remember,

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though it was times I came back through the curtain that I just wanted to say, get off my fucking back, man. You know what I'm saying?

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Like the Funkasaurus crap, and I'm like, you know, Taker PERSON was tough on me, you know? And had it not been at Dusty PERSON's funeral, I probably would have hated him the rest of my life. But he came up to me and he made a joke about my hair again. And he was like, he said something else. And he was like, well, you know, get you rolling around. I say, I don't work there anymore, man.And he didn't know. And he was visibly like, oh, man, I didn't know that. I'm really sorry to hear that. So. Do you think you honestly think he was telling your truth there?

Speaker 02465.06s - 2475.64s

Just saying. There was no point not to at that point. Because if all I can do is judge people off me. Like I was, after I realized that Freeman PERSON really

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didn't listen or retain anything, I was done with him after, you know, how many weeks of trying to get him to realize the most important thing in his match is not his little fireup dance. Like trying to eat soup out of a strainer. Yeah, it was just like, and then I got to the point, like, I'm not dealing with you. Like, just don't come to me for nothing because I've tried to help. The other guy, the boys are all taking their time and you're doing the, Aaron Anderson always gave me one rule.He was like, you can make mistakes. You just can't make the same mistake twice. Thank you. And then, bingo. That's life right there, right? And once you did, Arne PERSON was done with you.Yeah. And, um... Yeah, dude. I'm just saying, but yeah, I'm just, I mean, it was simple. So, you know, so for take that reaction from Taker PERSON, you would think of a guy really didn't like you.He would have laughed. It's a, my mentor's funeral. It's not like a fight's going to break out. You know what I'm saying? Like, there was the safest place to be like, yeah, good riddins. You know what I'm saying?Or like, oh, that wasn't fast enough because it was guys who would say shit like that. Yes. Maybe not to my face, but they would say it. Like, oh, man, fuck him. You know, he didn't.

Speaker 02546.8s - 2553.36s

And he seemed visibly bothered by it. So that's why I looked at, you know what? It was just a hard, he was just being a tough coach.

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And I'm cool with that. I just, because it's one of those things, somebody you admire so much. And every time I talk to you, it's negative. You just after a while, you don't admire him anymore. Yeah. You know?Man, I get that. I really, really get that.

Speaker 02568.22s - 2574.96s

You know what I'm saying? It's like one of those things where like, I don't know if I, maybe if I had, you know, it was just one of those things where I didn't care.

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Anything he had to say.

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I didn't want to say hi to him. I didn't want, when he was there, I was like, oh, here we go. All right, you know, I'd be like, hey, it must be WrestleMania EVENT time. Takers coming to take all the air time and money. Like, I would just be like, you know, I was,

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Kane's my favorite because he worked every day and he was nice to us.

Speaker 02590.26s - 2592.32s

You know, like, I would say it all the time.

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Like, man, I'm feeding for Keynes PERSON.

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I will run uphill both ways to feed for Kane PERSON. Anything he wants, he's got it.

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The other guy, I don't know.

Speaker 02601.36s - 2603.78s

My leg hurts. You know, say it.

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Like, I just. Hey, man, you give what you get. Hey, yeah, you know?

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Got to be me.

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You know something? Like what you just said, all right, this is the dark side of the Wise Men WORK_OF_ART episode.

Speaker 02617.8s - 2620.1s

Yes. Because this is, and I think you'll agree with me.

Speaker 12620.96s - 2625.86s

Of course, it's just the two of us. Yeah. And our one viewer

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the kid on the other side of the thing is like they're talking so much shit I love it we're not

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but it's the worst part about being a wrestler and accomplishing your dreams right

Speaker 02639.84s - 2641.98s

and look if you were a kid

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and you said hey haku's going to be your child's grandfather, you would have never believed that, right?

Speaker 02647.28s - 2647.8s

Yeah, yeah.

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If that's also a testament to realize if someone's like, I don't know if Tyrus PERSON was actually tough,

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you're like, ah.

Speaker 12656.42s - 2671.12s

Yeah. Well, yeah, there you go. Well, there you go. Talk to CEOC ORG. Yeah, yeah. Like, yeah.You know what I'm saying?. Like, yeah. You know? I'm saying. Like, that's why I always would laugh and stuff. And it would be like, oh, man,

Speaker 02672.26s - 2691.56s

you guys just stop, man. You never been a real fight, bro. Nobody, nobody feeds on a fight,bro. You know what, man? I know you're about to finish your point, but Cornett PERSON is probably, he is probably the greatest booker manager that you never knew booked.You know what I'm saying? Like he did it. He didn't make sure that he was champion. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 12692.76s - 2696.36s

Yeah, you know, to remember... Yeah, he's amazing.

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FCW ORG.

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Yeah, but I'm just saying, yeah.

Speaker 02699.24s - 2711.42s

Yeah, no, no, I'm just saying, yeah. But I just remember Dusty PERSON, I had gotten, I don't know, I said something, and he didn't like it. And he's like, you know, if you'd ever shut your mouth, man, you'd probably be a world champion. You know, like me, I care.

Speaker 12711.48s - 2722.34s

I held a title three times. What's you going to do? I said, hey, boss, weren't you the Booker PERSON? Bingo! Remember that? He's like, you can go home.He's fucking, you're too smart.

Speaker 02722.88s - 2727.2s

You're too smart for your own good, kid. Like, shut up. And yes, I was the damn booker.

Speaker 12728.96s - 2744.38s

Because I knew what everybody else should have known. That I was fire, baby. I was like, well, let me book for a couple shows of FCW ORG, and I'll show you that same fire, if you will. He's like, I will not.

Speaker 02747.44s - 2750.24s

Oh, by the way, you're in trunks now, smart guy.

Speaker 12750.5s - 2769.86s

Nothing else. Have a good day. But I mean, Duxley was a great Booker PERSON also. He brought, he was from, we just, you know, and and this that's the lost art in wrestling right now as abooker yeah and and

Speaker 02769.86s - 2776.3s

agents that don't agents need to have power they need to rain guys inthey need to protect guys from themselves

Speaker 12776.3s - 2789.62s

now it was the fear of us disappointing the guys that we watched if Mike Ritundocame up to me and said your match sucked it bothered me all weekend. I don't know if that's the same thing anymore.

Speaker 02790.88s - 2791.84s

I don't know.

Speaker 12792.64s - 2807.64s

Honestly, like some of the agents, like, again, the flip side, when you had an agent that you connected with, like, again, Arn, Rotundo PERSON, fit, you know, and I know you and Deanhad your thing, but you guys were cool in the end.

Speaker 02807.64s - 2812.92s

No, no, listen. Dean PERSON didn't like me for all the wrong reasons because he didn't know me.

Speaker 12813.72s - 2825.06s

But he just assumed that I fit that bill, unfortunately, because let's be honest, it was a lot of guys who just were big, who showed up and tried to get a check. Didn't really give a shit about wrestling. Him,

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him,

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and the first impressions are everything. They played that prank on me with the boots and stuff, my first house show. Yes,

Speaker 02833.42s - 2840.4s

I remember that. He was my agent. And he was like, you didn't even have boots? Like, fuck you.You know what? I probably would have done the same way. Like,

Speaker 12840.42s - 2844.98s

NWA ORG and a guy shows up for his first match, he doesn't have any boots because he thought

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someone told him to wear work boots to the ring. Yeah.

Speaker 12849.28s - 2849.56s

Yeah.

Speaker 02849.92s - 2854.46s

We'd be sitting there going, who is this fucking guy? You know what I'm saying?

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So being able to go from that to literally every time I did something stupid,

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i.e. the bar in Germany GPE,

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statues of limitations have run out, and I don't plan on going to Germany GPE anytime soon.

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But you beat up a whole bar in Germany GPE and you destroy a hotel room.

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And Dean Malincol PERSON is trying to figure out who did it. And he said there's blood everywhere.

Speaker 02882.92s - 2893.94s

Yeah, yeah, you know. I'm just, could have been anyone, man. You know, never know what happens. I mean, you said there was blood A lot of dude, just saying. Yeah, yeah, you know. I'm just, could have been anyone, man. You know, never know what happens. I mean, you said there was blood on the glass, sir? Well, my hands clearly aren't cut. So in the spirit of OJ, I'm not cut.

Speaker 12895.68s - 2896.84s

Guess it wasn't me, boss.

Speaker 02897.24s - 2910.1s

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, wow. Yeah.What, timing is everything, right? Yep. And then I remember, could have been me. Might have been me. Don't know. Wasn't sure, but definitely not bleeding. So, ergo, I guess it was somebody else.

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And I remember, and then everyone started confessing their sins about stealing alcohol bottles and stuff, little tiny alcohol bottles and stuff. And I remember Sina PERSON walked up to me and goes, hey, and this was world champ, Sina. That was the most stupidest, brilliant speech I ever heard in my life. You're a, wow, man. Just wow. You pulled it off.I didn't think you could do it, but you did it. Malink PERSON was like, I'm going to find him. And I'm like, I hope you do.

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And then we just kind of looked at each other, you know, and then.

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That's it. And then the WWU ORG is investigating. then we just kind of looked at each other, you know, and then, uh, that's it. And then the WWU ORG of investigating. And I just remember, uh, they, you know,tribulated them liked it so much that, they liked it, but they were like, hey, this dude's a tough guy or whatever. So they ended up letting me stay an extra week on the tour.And I had to go tell Molico that I was going to be on for another week. And I remember him just looking at you like, man, if I didn't think you hit me, I'd punch you in the face. Like, but I apologize to him. And I said, Coach PERSON, I let you down.And I know I shouldn't be allowed. I should, you know, be sent home or whatever. But he was like, listen, man, I can tell you there's been a few nights that, you know, I made some mistakes in wrestling. Like, hey, I get it. But, you know, you got to be better than that. But I respect you man to man.You know, and then it took a long time. I got, you know, and then finally one night, I had him as an agent on Raw against Truth WORK_OF_ART. And he came over to me and goes, hey, you remember Big John Studs PRODUCT body backbreaker? And I was like, yeah. And he was, I think you should do that. And that to me was one of the coolest moments.Throwing truth up on my, and having Malingo PERSON goes, there's your hold. It's yours. And I literally was, that was, that was for me, like I'm good with Malenko PERSON. And that meant everything to me because I, a man of a thousand holes, he was one of my favorites to watchwork, hands down. Yeah. That's just did everything right.

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Yeah. So you can't have moments if you humble yourself.

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And I think that's the thing with the, if I said anything to the young AW ORG guys, you got to humble yourself a little bit and think big pitcher, as Dr. Tom PERSON would say. Not

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what's in front of you. You got to look big picture. Is this promo worth it? All you did was let everybody know that punk in the WW are winning last night. That's all you did. And it wasn't even a contest. Don't mention them.It's a different animal.

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Just leave them alone. They are Devo PERSON. Debo, rest his soul. We are the red-headed dad. No, get in a car. I told you not to mess with those people. Leave them alone. Build your own mountain. Don't hate create.Yes, there you go. We'll end it on that. For more podcasts like this, just like this, you can check us out at Fox Newspodcast.com. Hashtag, don't hate, create. That's the longest I've gotten along with you and ever. So let's just.

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Well, we are in the air. Yeah. And if you will have the good form to not let anybody know that we had an enjoyable conversation, I would appreciate it. Absolutely.

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And maybe chop just in like four episodes.

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So no one gets both. Yeah. Yeah. All right.

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All right.

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Well, apparently hell has frozen over. We're getting along. All right. See what this goes. Enough said.

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