The Guy Who's Next

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What, Aaron, uh, man, we just knocking off like flies. I guess so, wow.

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Are we, well, are we sure GZ PERSON's not here? No, we're never sure.

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I mean, he, for all we know, he could be at the studio. I'm sorry, the, uh, Lego PRODUCT, the bird has inside of the junk, and we're going to go in the other rooms.

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GZ PERSON could be at the studio right now,

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and he could pop in behind your back. Because last week I'm still laughing about.

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Yeah, him just popping up. 45 minutes. Yeah, well into it. And didn't say a word. Yeah.

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So, hey. Well, you know, congrats on another successful Gutfeld PERSON visit. Thank you.

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That was a lot of fun.

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Yeah, with the exception of you trying to ask questions and, you know, maneuver your way into the hosting position.

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Don't think I didn't pick that up. You know, that's what it's a very curious guy about the topic. I wanted to know more about the topic. That's all. Speaking of the topic, I don't know. I sent it to you last night, and again,I'll always watch wrestling. Like, it doesn't matter. If it's on, I'll flip it on, I'll watch it, you know, and I was interested to see how the push is going with swerve, because I thought there was a great buildup. AEW ORG does a pretty good buildup of the guy who's next.Yes. They did it with MG, but even, I thought Samoa Joe was phenomenal. Oh, yeah. But when they build a guy up, they seem to do it right for the big title. But then after that, it's just kind of now what? 100%.And then what we witnessed.

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Yeah, and then what we witnessed last night was, could have been the death blow of the company.

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And here's the thing. The only thing that's going to ruin AEW ORG is the boys. It's just being real. Like that's, but who put that shit together? He's not a wrestler. The punched in the gut did it.But it was just, oh, it's like everyone's trying to get that Scott Hall and Kevin Ash PERSON moment, you know? Was swerves and turns.

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But here's the thing that they are missing.

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I don't think anyone, other than like Smart Mark PERSON's calling he's going to attack him, ever felt like Tony PERSON was in danger. You know what I'm saying? Like Eric Bischoff's confronting Scott Hall and Kevin Nash PERSON. There's a little bit of fear there.You know? Yep. Scott Hall, seven feet tall, jacked monster. I'm sorry, Kevin Nash PERSON was.

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And Scott Hall was Jack, what, 6-6, 67, something like that?

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Jack PERSON guys, like, they're big physical guys, and they look mean. They look like they meant business. So even though you didn't know Eric PERSON was going to get piled, you know, driven through the floor, you still was like, I don't know, Eric PERSON, I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't poke the bear.

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But there was never like Tony Kahn PERSON was the same size as everybody who was beating him up.

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You know, and it was just really drawn out and just holding him up there for what, what is it, a flipping spike pile driver?

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Again, I'm not, I'm not dissing the guns, but I am dissing the whole scenario. It was way too overthought. Yes, yes.

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Bingo, right? To where here's, I said this before, and it's another shining example of it, where the reason we're talking about Scott Holland PERSON,Kevin Nash PERSON, is because we were invested in them as characters, whether they were Diesel, Ray's Ramon, or and Nash PERSON. We knew who we were.

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Diamond stud or Oz, it didn't matter. Vinnie Vegas PERSON didn't matter.

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Because they were big guys. We were attached to them. Yeah. Yes. And we had

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seen them and like they were presented by people like Dusty PERSON, by, you know what I mean?

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Then by WWE ORG, who at the time time no one does it better in terms of presenting characters and you now have again like okay people that are no different than anybody you see at the airport maybe even on the smaller side and there's no like like the best equation i can make all right we can all agree scarface is in the top 10 movies of all time. No one can argue with that, right? Right.So, okay, if we can have the script of Scarface WORK_OF_ART, and if we wanted to make a movie with bad actors, if we went to a community theater, and it's not a knock on AW. I'm not trying to, I'm just, this is an example of why weak characters can ruin the best of ideas.So you can be a great booker and say this will work. But if people don't care about the characters involved, the storyline is completely down the toilet. Because there's guys you could do that with on their roster. Hobbs walks out there, Samoa Joe walks out there, you know, Warlow PERSON walks out there.There's a certain air of, is this safe for Tony Con PERSON? And even that,

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even Tony PERSON's got to do more than the thumbs up though.

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You know, he's got to let him know why he's reinstating him. You know, there was just, it was like they shook hands and the hands was taken too long. And then when they did the classic turn, you're like, you knew it was come. You know, it's just one of those things where it just, you know.

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And then holding him up for the pile driver was just, and he's just, it's not his fault.

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He's not a wrestler.

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But, you know, kick and squirm the whole time. You know what I'm saying? But you can't because you're worried about landing on your head. It's just, and he's just, it's not his fault. He's not a wrestler, but, you know, kick and squirm the whole time. You know what I'm saying? But you can't because you're worried about landing on your head.

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It's just, there's a reason why, I mean, and here's the thing. Those cats throw more super kicks. They can hit you from any angle, any, I mean, the double super kick from one, or just one of them would have been enough. And that's an easy sell for him, you know, just. Yep. You know, just... Yep.You know, it was just a weird... It was a weird choice. Yes. Yes. And really, just like... It's one of the other examples of when we say the little things mean everything,

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you truly do. You don't need to do a flip into a spike pile driver.

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Yeah. And one could argue, oh, it's 2024 and we need to do that.

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It looked like it missed to be quite frank with you.

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Yeah, yeah, because punching someone realistically or kicking someone realistically or hitting them with something in a realistic way that people can relate to the emotion more than the move will always pay dividends in the long run. Yep. And in the immediate, you know, it's a concept that's gone. But you know what? Again, it goes back to people having wrestling schools that shouldn't have them and, you know, just, again, a way of looking at the business that is not the same business I or you broke into. Do you think, do they survive the year?I'm going to say yes.

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And here's the thing, I don't want, it's another outlet, another avenue, it's another place where wrestlers can make living.

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You know what I'm saying? Living's. You know what I'm saying? Livings, you know what I'm saying?

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Yeah.

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It's a, working for AW ORG is substantial. It's a huge platform in terms of you're on TBS ORG. You're on T&T. You're on major networks. But you don't want to see that go away. And when you look at the type of crowd that's there, it's all 40-year-old guys.Yes.

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You know, and like the big arenas and then reconfiguring it to where it looks like an NXT ORG episode, so to speak.

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Have they accepted that as their market and where they're going to go at?

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Because, you know, the shots because the you know the shots at triple h and the shots at seampunk you can't have the the two most over guys on your show that you're talking about working for another company okay this is my opinion of that and this is just this is not a reflection on anyone personally at all this is my take so this is not like oh i, oh, I think Tony Kahn PERSON is, you know, off the rails. No, I think he approaches the wrestling industry from a very contemporary or modern standpoint in that he is very much into the internet culture.in that he is very much into the internet culture and kind of the Dave Meltzer five stars as opposed to being in touch with the American NORP audience.

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Now, I don't blame him, right? Because think about it. Look at Tony Khan PERSON. Tony Khan PERSON is in the same age demographic of the people that you said are attending his show, right? So let's not make believe there's not a niche. Yeah. No, there is. There is. You know what I'm saying? Like there let's not make believe there's not a niche. Yeah.No, there is. There is. You know what I'm saying? Like there's a niche, but there's also a glitch. And that is that that demographic is so small in terms of like what you could be reaching.

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If you had gone to just a very, and it's not like you're reinventing the wheel here.

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You're just going to a more traditional approach like tony you want to be vince be vince but you know what vince had even back in the day he had a booker not a mark with a pen i'm talking about like like you get dutch mantel yeah or you get cornet right um like that level and you say what do you want to write my show you don't have to leave your house you can stay there you can type it out these are the talent we'll meet this and that i'll have these people execute the orders right and that's it like think about what that would doright because especially knowing someone how he can utilize talent. Here's the other side of it.

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When you have someone like a Dutch Mentel or a Jim Cornett or Dr. Tom Pritchard PERSON or whomever, right, as your booker,

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when they tell you that a talent doesn't have it, when they tell you that this isn't the guy to push right now, when they tell you that this isn't the guy to push right now. That's the, I think the problem is with bookers aren't being, their word is not being held in the strongest regard in terms of like, they'll book it the right way. And let's say you take a guy like Hobbs PERSON, right?I wrestled for the heavyweight championship last night against Moxley PERSON, who's one of the best in the business right now. And I don't think it did any favors for him to have his manager doing play-by-play while his wrestlers tapping out. I just felt like if that was Heenan PERSON, he would have left the headset. He'd have been screaming up and down. You know, it just seemed very – and Don PERSON's been around for a while, you know.

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So it's like, it just seemed very like, kind of like, what are we doing?

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You know, because I look at, you've got someone like Hobbs PERSON, you don't want to just throw that away.

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That's the thing, right?

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Like being the moment, for God's sake.

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Yeah, I mean, Hobbs PERSON is.

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Wow, that was interesting.

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You know, he got, he got hooked in the thing, and I'm not saying, you can lose, okay? And Moxley PERSON hitting you with a DDT and you kicking out and him catching you in a reverse gear is not a problem. It's not a problem. Big guy didn't tap. He passed out, whatever the case may be.But the problem is if his manager's okay with it, why the hell would anybody at home not be okay with it also? Bingo. Like that's, yeah, bingo. And that's interesting because I thought that was 101.Exactly. His manager came out with him.

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Wow. I mean, like there wasn't

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a specific reason for it. Like, no, he's just, he even mentioned he's like, you know, my client is the only reason why he's winning right now is because my client's legs hurt. What should have been the reason to run the ring side? Yeah, and then, and I like, I mean, in a heavyweight title match,

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so all the marbles. I wouldn't want to be on commentary. I need to be right there by the action, making sure things happen. You know what I mean?

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That would just be my philosophy on it. But like, wow. It was just weird. I felt like they didn't do

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Hobbs any favors last night. And I think he's one of the guys you've got to build around. He's one of

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the guys that could be a real threat. But you have to make them a threat. You know, and that's the,

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and that's the, that's the issue because, um,

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Samoa Joe is a walking threat every time he, he walks into the building. Yeah. You know what? He's a, but you know what? He built that himself. Like you can't, they've tried to take it away from him and they haven't been able to.

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Because when he goes out in that curtain, he is, he is exactly what he's supposed to be.

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And, um And no doubt.

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And we're just not, it's one of those things where you don't want to see.

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Because listen, Tony Kahn PERSON is giving a lot of guys employment opportunities in front of a national TV audience that quite frankly wouldn't get them in other places. No, because it's keeping it real.

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I mean, look, we've said this.

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If this was 10 years ago, Lord, if this was 20 years ago, the only way the majority of these people would be allowed in a locker room is if they worked for the cleaning staff

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after the building was empty. And that's just, I mean, I'm not,

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I feel like I'm being, like, pessimistic, but no, that is the truth because of the lack of respect a lot of people have. I mean, and again, there's gems out there. There truly are gems. I mean, like, you know, Wardlow PERSON potential, Will Hobbs, like those two, you know, it's funny. I mean, I can already tell we would book those guys the exact same way in terms of how to build them up, how to, you know it's funny i mean i can already tell we would book those guys the exact same way in terms of how to build them up yeah how to you know present them on televisionuh and in accentuating their strengths and the thing is when when you try to make this action figure wrestling like oh i'm going to have this guy go against this guy because that'll be a no like you need to approach this from a a storytelling standpoint to where like wouldn't it be cool if this character interacted with this character and like in w wf like look we've seen some winners okay there's been the the wrestling plumber t l hoppers there's been the goon the uh the hockey guy so but there's also there's been the model Rick Martel PERSON right like a gimmickthat's like ah but then you look at what that was that was pretty cool there's a Tatanka yeah you know Sean Michaels the Heartbreak Kid like that like there are these characters that you instantly like when you when you talk about them you know who they are and like you're not getting like oh will hobbs or whoever right like for so and so and it's just another dude in spandex doing

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flips you know what I mean yeah like the warlow is does he stay on TV enough to get behind him

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no and like why like that's the thing that's frustrating. Because I honestly, I think, what's the group?

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Shades of Black ORG.

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What is the three, a House of Black ORG? House of Black ORG is awesome. Wow, okay.

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Why do they not have a lock on everything?

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He was, you know, and Homeboy ORG was literally kicking everybody's head off, you know? Yeah. Now what? Yeah. You know, it's just was literally kicking everybody's head off, you know. Yeah. Now what? Yeah. You know, it's just weird. They have all the ingredients, you know.But it just seems, it just seems like a disconnect other than their show is based around smart marks. That's it, dude. I mean, that's 100%. And again, you have a niche audience and that's great.

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That's fine. If that's your niche and that's the way you're going and that's what you're building for and that's what you do, then so be it.

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Oh, yeah. No, it's like not like hating on anyone.

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But it's just, I think it's sad because the potential that we both know is there and everyone

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sees it.

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You know, again, you have a guy like Dustin Rhodes PERSON in the back.

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Why are you not leaning on him?

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You know, I mean, they were proven enough. Yes.

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He's been through every situation.

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And he's done it at a high level.

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Yeah, Dustin PERSON would be my booker.

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Yes, bingo, right?

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And then you have a double A, a Dean Malenko PERSON, and you're not, like, you're not saying,

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hey, like, what the hell do we do?

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How can we make the show better? And just say, Arn, Dean PERSON, go do your thing. And the fact that, like, the young talent aren't listening to them. I mean, wait a minute, we also have Billy Gunn PERSON. Who knows how to work TV-style wrestling better than Billy Gunn PERSON, wait a minute. We also have Billy Gunn. Who knows how to work TV style wrestling better than Billy Gunn PERSON? Because if it was a shoot, Billy Gunn be champ, period.Bingo. Yeah. Yeah. But that's, but think about that, right? Like a Billy Gunn PERSON who can be like a player coach still and like understands the timing of it. Jeff Jarrett PERSON, like I would, one of the things,Double J PERSON, and this is fun fact, or not so fun fact, he was one of my all-time favorite performers in the WWF ORG, not like Jeff Jarrett in the Silver ORG, but I'm talking about the country music singer, Double J. Jeff Jarrett PERSON. There was something so obnoxious about thatand how he just leaned into it like

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i i always kind of dug it yeah him working knowing how to work that style again it's it's called

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rasslin right and i think that evokes a a certain image but it's it's usually the right one but it's

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it's rasslin done correctly because I think in both of our opinions

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there's nothing better. Yeah, I think if you had a team right now that came out like Only and Arn PERSON did with the Minnesota Wreck and Crew ORG, I think they would be one of the most dominant popular tag teams.And we'd have all the heat in the world because they just... Well, doesn't, um... They just work. Doesn't that one team that they're trying? FTR, the Revival or FTR or some?FTR, I think.

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Yeah, I don't...

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Like I said, I don't watch close enough to know all. I just kind of...

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Whenever Samoa Joe wrestles, I'll... Moxley PERSON, there's just certain guys that, you know, you just enjoy watching because they slow it down.

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You know, the reason why Adam and Christian PERSON's story is so good is because they're not a tell a damn story.

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What sucks is, is that those two guys are doing it together at a high level, and you would like to see some of that run downhill.

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You'd like to see guys do programs with a Christian or with an Adam PERSON and grow from it.

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You know, I can say...

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One hundred percent.

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Me working Christian and Adam PERSON, my confidence was in terms of like, you always kind of wonder

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when you first are up, like, can you hang with these guys?

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You know, can you work with these guys?

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Yeah.

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They work with you. And that was my first.

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Those were two of the biggest stars at the time that I was shooting with with Alberto PERSON, and it was my job every week to protect Alberto PERSON. Like, that was my job, which meant that I was going to be a lot of spears coming my way. And so be it. Holder right there. We'll be back in a hot minute.Now, if I can get real with you for a second. Now, listen, when I turned 40, I started to notice a little decline in my aggressiveness in the gym and I started to feel the effects of aging and feeling a little inadequate. So Nugentics ORG came along and gave me a free bottle and I tried it and I noticed results immediately. I just felt stronger, more confident. You started seeing results back in the gym. You got to try that Nugenics Total T PRODUCT. I swear by it. It is phenomenal. Newgenics, Total T, testosterone booster with Tesnor ORG will help you turn back the clock and re-energize your life. Prove it toyourself. Try Nugentics Total T PRODUCT before you buy. There's nothing to lose and everything to gain. New energy, muscle, drive, and even more passion. Get your complimentary sample when you text 231-2-3-1 and enter the keyword Tyrus PERSON, and that's T-Y-R-U-S. Now get your complimentary bottle of Nugentics Total T PRODUCT when you text 231-2-3-1 and enter the keyword Tyrus PERSON.Text now and get a bottle of Nugentics ThermoX PRODUCT, the newest and most powerful fat incinerator ever, with key ingredients to help you lose fat fast and get lean fast. Absolutely free. Text 231, 231, and enter keyword Tyrus PERSON. Text 231, 231, and enter the keyword, Tyrus PERSON.

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conducted by IQVIA ORG 2022. It was what it was, but the tradeoff was, is that I'm working, I was working Adam and Christian PERSON. And then when Adam retired, it was Ray Mysterio and Christian. It was Kane and Christian PERSON. So, I mean, it was just like you're in there. And at that point, when that stuff's over and it's no longer, hey, what are you doing? I need to know is, hey, see you out there once you get to that level of respect. So you want that.Same thing. Like, after you work with DX, you're like, what else can, you're now, you're no longer sitting at the table. You can now help set the table. Yeah, yeah. That's a good way to look at it. Yeah. And we're looking for, you want to see more guys set the table. Yeah, yeah. That's a good way to look at it.

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And we're looking for,

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you want to see more guys set the table. You know, but I'm just saying,

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and you have to be careful because, you know,

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the first thing they want to do when they get a big guy is beat them. Like they didn't learn anything from the Andre the Giant PERSON situation.

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Like, let's, you know, let's switch gears. WWE ORG, big show, we should have let's switch gears. WWE,

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Big Show, we should have been able to count on our hands how many time he has been clean beaten. Oh, absolutely.

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Or never tapped. Like, there should have been some caveat. Because

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big show is a once in a

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generation type.

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Andre PERSON was that one. Then you get a big show. And, you know, maybe it's...

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Agreed. And when you get someone like that, and show can, show wasn't a good big man. He was a good worker, period.

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And, and, and, but he was, because of that, sometimes, and you, and you know I've heard that a lot. Like, sometimes like, well, you know, you're just, you're too good of a worker to be just be a big guy or a heater. So, you know, we need you. And we need you to get guys over.But big show is a different animal. I'm talking.

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Once you're in that seven foot range and look the way he looks, there is no reason.

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And the line to beat him from the top guys and raw during that time was there at Triple H, Rock, Hunter PERSON, everybody wanted to beat him.

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Instead of going, this should have been the one guy who was just smoking everybody,

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and everybody's avoiding him. Because, you know, again, big shows got, he doesn't have to work again the rest of his life. He's had a great career. But just in terms of like when you have something that you know is going

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to win, big show

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as a baby face for most of his career smoking everybody, not really ever getting a title shot and then switching the flip. I mean, literally, there was enough time between Andre PERSON and show it could have been done.Oh, absolutely. You know what I'm saying?

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A true attraction. You had it. You know, Mark Henry PERSON was another one. You know what I'm saying? A true attraction. You had it.

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You know, Mark Henry PERSON was another one. You know, he was the world's strongest man. Yeah. But, you know, and I think for the most part, I think Mark PERSON was protected probably a little bit more than show was. But, but, um, yeah, it's, but it's still, it's still one of those things where you're like and again i hadto compete with these guys for tv time so i'm not um but still there's a there's a certain thing that even uh with my short feud with with big show ORG um and never really never really had a few with mark but uh i think we worked that one time in a house show with you and I tagged together one night. That was a weird pairing. That's right. Yes.Wow. Yeah.

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Yeah, it was you and me against, uh, it was against Big E and Mark Henry PERSON. And I believe, in Louisville GPE.

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Yeah, Louisville GPE.

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Yeah.

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Yes, because I remember my, uh, my girlfriend at the time and her family in the front row.

Speaker 01548.56s - 1555.94s

Yes, and that's why I took the L because I didn't want you to look bad at home. Which I didn't care.

Speaker 31556.06s - 1558.78s

I was like, no, you didn't care, but I was like, you had a whole crowd.

Speaker 41558.78s - 1566.3s

And at that point, at that point, man, I was, you know, the writing was on the wall I was just like I got it

Speaker 31566.3s - 1570.04s

bro don't even you're like I remember you're like seriously it's no problem it's no problem I'll

Speaker 41570.04s - 1577.56s

take it I was like no I got it it's all good don't worry about it you know and uh well hey we can

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laugh about it now yeah I think I remember at this point Arne PERSON had had it with me too I think a little

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bit and I remember I was like, what do you want tonight?

Speaker 31586.34s - 1587.08s

He's like, I don't care.

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Just don't suck.

Speaker 31588.38s - 1591.82s

I think he was just like at that point, you know.

Speaker 01592.14s - 1593.9s

I was like, good talk, man.

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And then went back out there.

Speaker 31596.58s - 1604.02s

But it was a weird pairing. It was a weird pairing. Yep. You know.

Speaker 01604.52s - 1608.54s

But we, hey, house shows, we always had fun.

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Didn't matter what was going on on TV or the politics backstage.

Speaker 01614.02s - 1617.6s

The one thing that I always had fun was on the house shows.

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All the time. That was like looking back the best part of being there. Yeah.

Speaker 01623.68s - 1636.08s

Oh, yeah, because you could create so much and have so much fun and pop yourself. I remember, uh, was it, since we're talking about Aaron, he bet me, uh, that I couldn't rig the election.

Speaker 31636.38s - 1665.44s

Uh, it was us. It was voting to see whether the bella's, one of the bellas had to leave or one of the funcadactyls had to leave. And I'd text a bunch of people to vote Ariana off. And we got out there. And it's always the same thing at the house show. The heels always get voted off.And the only one who knew was me and Arnd PERSON. And then when they went out there and when they were like, because I remember the look on your face was like, the hell just happened. You know, that was the night I broke out the,

Speaker 41665.44s - 1669.66s

yeah, I broke out the Ricky the Dragon PRODUCT steamboat chops. Oh my God, that was Ireland GPE.

Speaker 31669.86s - 1718.2s

Yes, it was just like, what the hell? Dude. Okay, like, that was when like someone like got, like there was a dance that was supposed to be a worm, but it looked like. Yes.Like, right, someone was, I forget who it was. And then there was like a, like a spot. And then we got to the back. And because it was Pote and I and the Bellas versus U-10s eye and the Funkadackle PRODUCT. Yes. Yes.And then Fitz PERSON, like, his reaction, he goes, well, huh. I was a lot of sex out there. Yeah. And we were like, what the f***? And we just say, and we double it, the Dublin GPE sex match because, like, we were like, but I think he was talking about, like, the dancing at the beginning.Yes. And, like, it was just, I guess it was a little too heavy in that department.

Speaker 01718.2s - 1726.38s

Oh, we always ended up with a spot where either Cody's head was in your crotch or you guys are always in some weird thing.

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I'll say that.

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I enjoyed being a heel team with him on the house.

Speaker 31734.84s - 1735.48s

You guys were good.

Speaker 01735.58s - 1740.86s

You guys got so much heat. Like just walking out. Just walking out the place hated you.

Speaker 31741.62s - 1743.38s

I mean, it didn't matter who you were wrestling.

Speaker 01743.56s - 1757.86s

Like the two of you, you're in the, like, purple. He's in purple. You're in, like, a purple and a little bit of pink highlight. I mean, you guys just came walking out like a couple of asses every week. I just, it wasn't hard. Me and tens, I didn't have to do much.And, uh, which was like.

Speaker 31758.32s - 1759.42s

Which is what you want.

Speaker 41761.56s - 1764.88s

You don't want to run seven thousand spots to get a cheer.

Speaker 01766.68s - 1767.24s

You know?

Speaker 31767.28s - 1768.42s

No, that's it, man, right?

Speaker 41768.46s - 1768.9s

That's it.

Speaker 31769.32s - 1774.54s

And it's like we were actually kind of fortunate because we had our singles feud.

Speaker 01774.86s - 1777.12s

And then we got to have a tag feud later.

Speaker 41777.12s - 1782.2s

Yeah, we were just married at the hip for a long, long time.

Speaker 31782.82s - 1787.08s

And it was a, and it was like it was a great spot to be, at least on the house shows,

Speaker 01787.16s - 1792s

we knew we were getting 12 minutes every night, at least, to go out there and just have fun.

Speaker 31792.92s - 1795.24s

We'll work for six, but we'll take 12.

Speaker 01795.24s - 1795.92s

We'll take 12.

Speaker 31795.96s - 1800.86s

We're going to work for six because it's you hopping over the rail, stretching,

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then doing the screen.

Speaker 31801.88s - 1803.4s

I mean, it was just, it crowds.

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And here's the thing, it only works, the crowd loves it.

Speaker 01806.14s - 1809.8s

The crowd loves it, and you can spare your body a night of crazy bumps.

Speaker 31809.9s - 1824.18s

You're still going to give them the big bump. You're still going to give them the work when the time comes, but you built. They wanted me to kick your ass so bad. They could not wait to when I finally just grabbed you, the place went nuts. Yeah. You know, because they just.

Speaker 41824.88s - 1827.9s

Yeah, it was like, I finally get my hands on you

Speaker 31827.9s - 1841.08s

because you would use Cody and this, that way, and Ten's eye, and then eventually, you know, something happens, and then boom, there's the comeback, harden the paint, you know, and I don't touch you until the comeback. That's it. You know, so that's how we...

Speaker 01841.08s - 1859.38s

You know, it was just simple. Single match was the same thing. It was just... We didn't get much... The shine was, like, simple. I think it was a couple of, like, hip toss that you bumped we, you know, it was just simple. Single match was the same thing. It was just, we didn't get much. The shine was, like, simple. I think it was a couple of, like, hip toss that you bumped out to the floor.And then eventually, after the chicken spot, you found a way to cut me off. Because we didn't need it. We had so much in the front that we went straight to heat. So we could get a double heat.

Speaker 31859.38s - 1862.08s

Yeah, but that was like, and you know what?

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Again, like, I took that for granted because when I left WWE ORG,

Speaker 31869.34s - 1895s

they're like the timing of it, right? Like you said, the chicken spot. When, like, working is not exchanging fake move. Working is being on the same page with each other. Like, when I slid out of the ring, you knew that was your time to get the entire crowd chanting chicken. And like, like you pass me the hot potato.I'm going to like get pissed. You're going to pull me in. I pass you the hot potato.

Speaker 01895.18s - 1908.82s

Like that's how that works. But you know how it would be today if we ran that match like that if I was, had the mindset of some of the new guys? I'd be like, hey, man, I'm not really getting a whole lot in and in the shine. Yeah.

Speaker 31909.18s - 1913.14s

You know, I need to get my power slam in

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and I got to get my flying clothesline in and the shine.

Speaker 01916.22s - 1917.7s

That's my signature stuff.

Speaker 31919.14s - 1933.84s

But we're, but you're, I'm running like a coward from you and the crowd's calling me names and cheering. You want to stop doing that to do the wrestling moves? Well, yeah. Because I got to get my move in.

Speaker 01934.14s - 1940s

I mean, I was a part in one of those conversations once and I just looked down and said, okay, what are you going to do again?

Speaker 31940.34s - 1950.6s

And then we got out there and I didn't do any of it. Matter of fact, I didn't even touch him. Yeah. Was that? 72. Yeah.

Speaker 01950.74s - 1969.64s

Yeah, you close line me out. I'll close line you out. Then I'll pick slam you. Sure. You slam me. Then we shoot out double close line, you know, and then we feed up, see who's up first.Both make tags. And I'm like, that's the opening spot with the two biggest guys. That's what you want to do? Yeah, cool.

Speaker 31972.08s - 1996.5s

Bell rang, went face to face or whatever, was circling around. And I was like, easy. Let the crowd milk it, milk it, milk it, baby. And then took one step back, did the wonderful kiss my ass and tagged out. Like he's all yours, Pope PERSON. And how was it?No, no, Jordan PERSON.

Speaker 41996.66s - 1997.72s

Pope PERSON was on the other side.

Speaker 31998.26s - 2004.44s

But Pope PERSON from the other side was like, son of a bitch. And tagged Jordan PERSON in.

Speaker 42004.58s - 2007.16s

And Jordan's like, what sunglasses on yeah yeah jordan's

Speaker 02007.16s - 2012.22s

like what do i do i don't know you guys called it figured i don't know i'm out and that was it

Speaker 42012.22s - 2017.32s

yeah because it was like god it was just not worth the argument

Speaker 02020.38s - 2025.66s

that's so true though like i remember you saying like like it was right before you went out you went

Speaker 32025.66s - 2031.9s

this is what's going this is what's going on like this is how I'm handling it and I was watching it

Speaker 02031.9s - 2039.62s

and I think I was next to the boss and when that happened I just lost it and why are you laughing

Speaker 32039.62s - 2060.76s

it well hey uh just that was the funniest spot of the night. And that's all I said. That to me was just, that's, it's such a brilliant way to deal with a lot of this crap in the business. We're like, if, well, I want to come at you this, this and this, you know what? Just tag out and see what happens. Yeah.

Speaker 42062.08s - 2066.88s

It's like taking a knee when you left him back. Yeah, yeah, I forgot. I took a knee.

Speaker 32068.1s - 2069.56s

Sometimes just tag out.

Speaker 42069.6s - 2072.18s

Just tag out, man. When all else fails, tag out.

Speaker 32073.64s - 2075.64s

I forgot I did that on impact.

Speaker 42078.56s - 2080.88s

I was like, yeah, you want me to do what?

Speaker 32081.62s - 2082.42s

I'm good.

Speaker 42082.78s - 2083.7s

I'm good.

Speaker 32083.76s - 2109.7s

I'm taking a knee. Oh, that was funny. That was funny. Although I probably burnt it. And I don't like burning bridges. But, well, actually, I came back to TV after that.And then they gave me the pitch about teaching Fala PERSON how to be cool at nightclubs. And I was like, yeah, I'm good. But it was just a difference of opinion creatively,

Speaker 42109.7s - 2113.66s

but it was a mutual parting of the ways. Yeah.

Speaker 32115.32s - 2132.62s

Yeah, that's it. And you know what? It's never necessarily a bad thing, right? Like at the time when people look at like, oh, it didn't work out in this company or this didn't work out, you can like then turn your attention to other avenues in life and you

Speaker 42132.62s - 2139.66s

don't know what door's going to open up. Speaking of other avenues before we go, so, Aaron,

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I have a special guest here today that has a question for you. Oh, yes.

Speaker 52148.08s - 2149s

How's your eyeliner?

Speaker 32149.76s - 2158.7s

Oh, my God. That's, uh, that's Georgie PERSON. And I, oh my God. Well, I can say this.

Speaker 02159.7s - 2163.5s

Ask again, Georgie PERSON. I never get like this on the air. Ask her again, George. Ask him again, Georgie PERSON.

Speaker 32164.82s - 2180.76s

You call him her. Wait a minute. I'm a little tongue-tied on the air. I don't get like this. Now, for those that don't know at NWA ORG for character work, I wear a little bit, a little bit

Speaker 02180.76s - 2182s

of eyeliner and mascara.

Speaker 32182.96s - 2185.32s

Yes. When Georgie PERSON sees me.

Speaker 02185.32s - 2188.78s

When my daughter sees Aaron, who she's known like an uncle.

Speaker 52189.9s - 2191.78s

What did you say, Georgian PERSON, when you saw him?

Speaker 02192.08s - 2192.9s

Hey, girl.

Speaker 52196.76s - 2201.08s

And Aaron, you just froze in your tracks and you're like, excuse me?

Speaker 32202.02s - 2203.72s

She's like, I love your eyes, girlfriend.

Speaker 52204.26s - 2204.42s

Yeah.

Speaker 32205.04s - 2205.88s

I didn't know what to say.

Speaker 02206.8s - 2210.1s

But I do not have eye liner on at the moment at all.

Speaker 32211.36s - 2242.42s

She recently saw your clip, your award-winning clip. And she kept arguing me saying, that's not Aaron. That's not Aaron. And I said, the guy who says not paying for it's not Aaron, she's like, yeah, he doesn't have any eyeliner on. So she's convinced you wear it in your personal life. I do not. I can assure her that I do not. I can assure all the listeners that I do not. I didn't wear it on gutt pill.See, I just had a, it was just me. Wow, it's hard. He's struggling right now.

Speaker 02243.74s - 2247.16s

I know. Any other questions for Aaron, Georgie PERSON, before we let him go?

Speaker 52249.76s - 2255.62s

How much eyeliner do you have? What brand does he use?

Speaker 32255.78s - 2256.04s

Like, yeah.

Speaker 52256.58s - 2258.46s

See if we can get him a sponsorship, Georgie PERSON?

Speaker 42258.5s - 2258.82s

Yeah.

Speaker 52259.92s - 2263.5s

Hey, Aaron, for those you out there, if you're looking to sponsor, Aaron.

Speaker 32263.62s - 2266.54s

Aaron, what preferable eyeliner do you prefer to wear?

Speaker 02266.6s - 2267.64s

Is there a particular brand?

Speaker 52267.74s - 2270.88s

Do you just grab whatever is handy at the local CVS ORG?

Speaker 02270.94s - 2271.98s

Like, what are we doing here?

Speaker 32272.9s - 2299.08s

Well, okay. And if we're looking for an honest answer, I do not own eyeliner. I don't know the brands. I don't have any in my possession. When I go to hair and makeup, they do it. But if anyone knows of a fine-tip liquid black,I would absolutely be interested in sponsorship because, you know what, I'd do that. But it has to be the fine-tip black. But that's just in case anyone out there has any leads. But I don't wear it in my personal life.

Speaker 52299.5s - 2303.4s

That's very specific. It's very specific type there.

Speaker 32303.4s - 2307s

You have to know these things, right?

Speaker 02307.34s - 2309.42s

Ladies in the office are like, wow, this guy knows his stuff.

Speaker 42310.94s - 2313.26s

Hey, you know, I spent some time in the makeup here.

Speaker 02313.48s - 2314.3s

Yeah, what did you say, Jerry PERSON?

Speaker 32314.32s - 2314.8s

What, Georgie PERSON?

Speaker 02315.12s - 2316.18s

You really know your makeup.

Speaker 52317.8s - 2318.7s

Well, not everything.

Speaker 02318.78s - 2321.94s

Like, I'm not like a foundation expert or I'm not like a contouring expert.

Speaker 52321.94s - 2324.6s

I'm more of just a basic eye enhancement guy.

Speaker 02324.8s - 2325.96s

Just, just eyeliner and mascara

Speaker 32325.96s - 2327.8s

and it's only for TV purposes.

Speaker 52329.46s - 2330.38s

Yeah, I didn't know.

Speaker 32330.48s - 2333.7s

What is he talking about, Georgie PERSON? Foundation. Yeah.

Speaker 52334.32s - 2335s

What's foundation?

Speaker 32337.88s - 2338.86s

What's what you put?

Speaker 52339.78s - 2341.74s

I thought foundation was the stuff

Speaker 32341.74s - 2343.78s

underneath the held a bridge up, so I'm a little confused

Speaker 52343.78s - 2345.6s

right now. What is it, Georgie PERSON?

Speaker 32346.16s - 2349.92s

It's like, so there's, like, different types of foundation.

Speaker 52350.42s - 2356.12s

There's one that you can, like, put under your eye, and there's one you just put all over your face. Oh.

Speaker 32358s - 2358.82s

Oh, so Aaron's...

Speaker 42358.82s - 2368.8s

It's the foundation of a good complexion, in other words, right? Like, you have to build a foundation first, Tyrus PERSON. And then, once you have the foundation on, you can get into contouring any kind of eye

Speaker 32368.8s - 2374.84s

enhancing thing um you know some people like to get a little cray cray around the eyebrows i don't

Speaker 02374.84s - 2380.2s

touch my eyebrows i am 100% draw the line and eyebrows draw the line and eyebrows except for a little

Speaker 42380.2s - 2386.5s

yeah eyebrows is a deal breaker. Yes. Wow.

Speaker 32387.06s - 2388.34s

Wow. Well,

Speaker 02389.38s - 2389.58s

I'm actually going to go out.

Speaker 42390.8s - 2391s

This is the part where I really,

Speaker 02391.72s - 2391.76s

yeah,

Speaker 42394.48s - 2394.78s

I really need a GZ to jump in right now and say,

Speaker 02395.14s - 2396.62s

damn!

Speaker 32397.54s - 2399.8s

That's where we're at. Yeah, GZ even here might go out, right?

Speaker 02400.44s - 2403.92s

Well, I'll say it for him. Damn. Thanks, Aaron.

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For more awkward podcast like this, just like this. You can check us out at Fox NewsPad. Fox News Podcast.com ORG. Hashtag makeup tips with Aaron will be out on DVD and cassettes where available.

Speaker 52424.8s - 2425.72s

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Speaker 12453.04s - 2466.14s

Hi, everybody, it's Brian Kilmead PERSON. I want you to join me weekdays at 9 a.m. East as we break down the biggest stories of the day with some of the biggest newsmakers, and of course, what you think. Listen live or get the podcast now at Brian Kilmead Show.com ORG.