136. CONSPIRACIES (with Giles Paley-Phillips and Sophie Green from the ‘Unquestionable’ Podcast)

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Oh, thank you Sophie Sorry That's a blooper for the end of the episode

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I'm so professional Carry on

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Okay Here we go See I feel you're going to say something again though

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So now I want to

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Just be quiet. Just cough.

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Okay. Right.

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No pressure.

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Jesus.

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You got this.

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I've got this.

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I've got this. Come on. Come on. Okay. You know the world, come on. Okay. You know the world, the universe, everything is really strange when you think about it. Sometimes strange and tragic things happen.Sometimes for strange reasons. And sometimes stories and conspiracies are created. Some ridiculous. Some maybe not so. Buckle in, grab your tinfoil hat as we're going to delve into the murky and controversial world of conspiracies. But first, here are ten conspiracies that are true.During Prohibition EVENT, the government poisoned alcohol to keep people from drinking. Does this story seem possible? A stroke rendered President Woodrow Wilson incapable of governing and his wife, serapitit PERSON, I knew I'd get that. Seruptitiously stepped in. I don't believe you. The CIA ORG was testing LSD, another hallucinetic.Oh, Jesus Christ PERSON.

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Wow, you're on a row.

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There's not words, mate. There's a lot of syllables. Hallucogenic drugs on Americans NORP in a top secret experiment on behavior modification.

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It's time to ask yourself what you believe.

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The Dalai Lama is a CIA ORG agent. You can't handle the truth. I'm not saying that these are true, but I've read them off the internet, so obviously they are.

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They're from Twitter, are they? Yes. The FBI was spying on former Beatle John Lennon PERSON. Nonsense! Not such, nonsense! For decades, tobacco companies buried evidence that smoking is deadly.What a load of crappy crap, crap.

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There you go. The Gulf of Tonkin LOC incident

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on August 2nd, 1964,

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was faked to provoke American support for the Vietnam War EVENT.

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A bullshit?

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The Canada GPE government was so paranoid about homosexuality that it developed a gay-dar machine.

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You're unbelievable.

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E.T. is buried in the desert of New Mexico GPE. The Atari video game, E.T. PRODUCT the extraterrestrial, failed so miserably that the company buried unsold cartridges in a desert landfill. Unbelievable, Jeff PERSON. And finally, with the advances in technology, the government is using its vast resources to track citizens.

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I don't believe it!

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Indeed, I don't believe it either. Well, look, all of the facts that I've got tonight

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are all from the internet, and who knows the internet the facts in

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inverted commas so please take everything we say tonight with a massive pinch of salt uh and joining us

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in a trademark the nicest man on the internet jiles paley phillips PERSON and the globe trotting

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two thousand and twenty four version of Alan Wicker, Sophie Green PERSON.

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Yay!

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Wow, what an intro.

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What an intro, indeed.

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Right. Yeah, thank you. That's very kind. Yeah, sorry that I completely bawled up the start.

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No, no, I thought you did well because there was some hard words in there. There was.

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There was.

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I can't say either.

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There you go.

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Well done. I feel better now. I feel better now. So hello, guys. We've realised that conspiracies is a very, Tip is. I can't say either. There you go. Well done. I feel better now. I feel better now. So hello guys. We've realized that conspiracies is a very dangerous, murky subject to tackle.

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Now, I know that in our messages, Giles PERSON, we were saying, oh, should we maybe make them more lighthearted conspiracies or not? I did think that maybe some of the ones that are a little bit more controversial, a ones that we should talk about, because I'd like to know what your views of them are. But everybody listening, take a chill pill. You know, we're not trying to explain the meaning of life. We're just trying to have some fun on a podcast.

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That's all we're trying to do.

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Well, I guess it's what people, one person's conspiracy theory is another person's truth, right? So, you know. Exactly.

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Yeah.

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That's very profaned.

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I know.

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And Sophie PERSON, what about you?

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Yeah, I had a feeling you'd had a conversation about it because, um, Charles PERSON, you know, sort of said to me, oh, are we going to do sort of like jokey ones?

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And I was like, no, I'm going all in.

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I'm going all in. I'm going all in.

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All the ones you believe?

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Yeah, my favourite one is the Holocaust EVENT never happened.

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No, I'm just kidding.

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Well, the thing is, the ones I've got in my top ten,

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I don't necessarily believe in all of the ones I've got in my top ten.

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Oh, I didn't know we would believe in any of them.

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Well, no, but I mean, well, there's some that there are slivers,

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there are slivers of truth in certain conspiracy theories.

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Remember, Sophie, one person's conspiracy theory is another person's true.

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Exactly.

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But I'm very easily led.

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So I don't know about you guys.

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We'll talk you around.

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Thank you.

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But I'll watch a documentary about it, summer.

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And straight away, I'll go, that's obviously the truth about it.

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Because a lot of people that are very good documentary makers will make the points really well. And you think, well go that's obviously the truth about it because a lot of people that are

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very good documentary makers will make the points really well and you think well that's got to be the

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truth but then you'll watch another documentary about the same thing and you think oh yeah no yeah right

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as well also i don't know if you know pab but um everything on youtube is true so well i'm kind of

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hoping it is well you know what sophie one person's YouTube is another person's truth.

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Okay, before we actually do start, we've now got a new feature, which we started with Lisa a couple of episodes ago.

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So we're going to do this.

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Lisa PERSON's Challenge.

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Thank you you Lisa PERSON.

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Thank you Lisa PERSON.

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So what we're going to do is because we normally get duplicates.

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But what I want to do is we're going to each think

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how many duplicates we're all going to get

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out of our top 10.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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But they've got,

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over the last few weeks, I've only had me and a guest. Now we've got three of us. So, Giles, how many conspiracy theories do you think we're all going to have in our top 10? Well, the same you mean?

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The same, yeah. Because I guess we've all got 10.

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Yes, we've all got 10. But we may have.

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I went for four.

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No, um, uh, oh, I think, I think at least half, I reckon.

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Maybe, yeah, far. I'll go five. You're going to go five? Okay. And Sophie PERSON, what do you think?

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So these are duplicates that all three of us have on our list. All three of us have to have. Yeah, all three of us have.

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I'm just going to say three. Oh.

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That's because yours are going to be weird.

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Yeah, I know, because I'm looking at mine, I'm like, they're not going to have most of these.

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No one's heard of these ones.

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You've just made up them.

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I mean, I thought this was a platform to make up my own conspiracy theories.

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I don't mind that. That's what I went with.

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And also I'm thinking about my Lord of the Rings WORK_OF_ART list as well.

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That was quite niche.

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I'm going to split the difference and I'll go four then.

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I'm going to go four.

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So, Charles said five, Sophie said three and I've said four.

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So in regards to, I've just said that I'm quite easily led when it comes to conspiracy

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theories.

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What about you guys?

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Charles PERSON, do you just poo-poo them straight away?

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I'm pretty, pretty sceptical.

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And interestingly, I was saying to the kids,

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we were just eating dinner before we came on.

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And the wonderful world of the internet,

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they know most of the ones I was saying to them,

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they knew most of them.

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And I was like, like, you know,

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they're obviously they're teenagers.

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But like, so I was thinking like actually,

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conspiracy theories, I guess they consume a lot of YouTube ORG, but they're obviously very aware of a lot of conspiracy theories. Conspiracy has become mainstream.

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And we've seen that in politics and stuff with the likes of Trump

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and Alex Jones and stuff like that and, you know, dare say other people that remain nameless. But so, yeah, they've become very mainstream. So I think a lot of people know more about conspiracy theories than they used to, perhaps. Okay. What about you, Sophie PERSON?

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I would say that I don't really care enough about most things to sort of attach any kind of, like, meaning to stuff.

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But I'm just in general, you mean?

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Yeah, kind of. You know, I'm kind of non-committal to most things in life. But I would say that I am very open-minded. You know, I believe in science and like normal things. But at the same time, I haven't really attached like an identity to it. So if someone said to me tomorrow, actually we've proven that the earth is flat,then I probably wouldn't care, really. Right.

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But I find them so far. So you probably wouldn't care, really. Right. But I find them so farmed. So you just don't care about anything. No.

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Well, I just, what really fascinates me about conspiracy theories is why people care so much, really.

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It's like the psychology behind it all because people get so, like, passionate about it.

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And they really, like, put their rule into these weird and wacky beliefs.

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So, yeah, I mean, I would say that the thing about conspiracy theories I love is more the wildness of them.

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And I'm unpacking why people actually believe that and being open to it being true as well.

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I think, sorry, Pav, I've got to say, I think actually you're on something now.

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I think conspiracy theorists are sometimes more fascinating than conspiracy theories. Like the actual, yeah, like you say,

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the meaning that people take from it and the righteousness

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sometimes as well. Well, I was going to say, the social media age that we're in now,

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where everybody now in inverted comments has a voice, it's that thing that anybody can say anything they want. And the same as I said,

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you know, I've taken these facts or these conspiracy facts, if you like, from the internet. I don't know if they're true or not.

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I'm just taking them from face value from what I've seen on a device in front of me. So it's weird how anybody, you know, like you said, Sophie PERSON, you could say what you want and it could be all of a sudden a conspiracy theory.

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And somebody's going to latch on it and then go, I believe that.

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And then by that time, you've got a movement then. Yeah.

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It's the origins of conspiracy theories that really fascinate me as well.

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Because oftentimes you'll find that they either have a completely ridiculous origin or a really anti-Semitic NORP origin.

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And so you're kind of, both sides are kind of dangerous, you know,

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like you're either going off of some bizarre thing that someone's just made up on Reddit

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or you're going off of something with some quite sort of dangerous ideologies at the origin of it.

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And I don't think people really do any research on where it's come from before they decide to, like, you know, attach themselves to it. Yeah. And as well, there seems to be making money out of a conspiracy theory seems to be something that a lot of people can do. I've known from JFK

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assassinate, the amount of books on the JFK PERSON assassination where people are just trying to make their little sliver of money out of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, right. I'm fascinated.

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I can't wait to delve in. So, Giles, what's your number 10?

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Hmm.

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You know, you said about not doing comedy ones.

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Okay.

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I mean, you could do comedy ones. I just regarded that. I got no way of thinking.

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So number 10, I've got Averul Levine PERSON is dead and is being impersonated.

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Right.

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I did see that one.

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This has come from, this is someone's come up with this that she died in 2003. I think it's something to do. Some resilient fan page that started on or something like that.I've got some notes here. So that's why I'm looking over here.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Something to do with it.

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She was struggling with the price of fame after the release of one of her big albums. And then she, yeah, she ended up taking her own life. And they've replaced her, basically.

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Yeah.

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I mean, yeah.

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And so she's, well, quite.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean, to be honest,

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I look at a lot of these that I've written out and I think why.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, good question. I've heard about this. And then I've written out and I think why. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, good question.

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I've heard about this.

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And because apparently there's a woman that, yeah, obviously, because apparently there's a woman that it's very similar to her.

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But the thing that makes me laugh about this conspiracy theory is that when this supposedly happened was like, I want to say like 2003 or something.

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It was like right at the height of her fame.

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Like I think her all her songs came out, you know, was it like complicated and

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all that stuff came out one year.

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And then like by the next year, she was supposedly already dead and had been, had been

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phone. Oh, that was perfect timing. And then she was already dead.

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D-d-d-d-dun-ch. I didn't need to press that. I'm sorry.

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This she didn't press the whack, wah, wah.

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She was dead.

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But yeah, it's almost like, yeah, a year later.

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Yeah.

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So the ladies called Melissa Vandella PERSON,

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who's supposed to be the person that's impersonating.

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Right.

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Is Avril Levine PERSON now? She's her, yeah.

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But she hasn't been doing much. Like she's not like been releasing albums and stuff then. She's probably done less now since she died.

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Obviously not died.

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Yeah.

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That's crazy.

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I must admit, the reason I pressed that and then Sophie PERSON went and mentioned

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complicated, I was going to go, why did she have to make it so complicated?

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And then I was going to go like that.

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But Sophie PERSON said complicated. So it kind of ruined the whole.

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But don't worry, Sophie PERSON. That's fine.

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Have you got like a skater boy reference or something?

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No.

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There are two songs I know of us anyway. I don't know any other songs.

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Well, this is what I mean.

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It's not like she like, you know, I had this thriving career.

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It's not Elvis PERSON, is it?

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Exactly. Yeah, yeah.

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That's bizarre.

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But it's like the general public

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find it harder to believe

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that she just wanted to live a quiet life.

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So they were like,

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she's been cloned.

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She's got a clone instead. She's dead.

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They just can't have the normal option. They have to have some bizarre.

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Let's hope Taylor Swift PERSON is happy. That's all I'm going to say.

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That's why I kind of picked it because I thought it's quite a random person. Yeah. If you were to say if you were say like,

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who, some of pop stars died. Avril Levine PERSON wouldn't have been the person I would have gone to. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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You might say like Marley Cyrus PERSON or something like someone, or Taylor Swift PERSON like you said.

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Yeah, yeah. But the fact it's like Avril Levine PERSON, who's, you know, no offense to Avrilavine PERSON.

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But, you know, an average kind of pop.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Maybe that makes it more realistic.

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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It's just a very random.

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Anyway, that's my number 10.

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That's a great one to start with, though.

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Okay, then so for your number 10.

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Okay, so my number 10 was birds aren't real.

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They're actually,

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their surveillance drones

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that the government's put out.

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And I love this one because it's kind of like a,

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it's kind of a jokey one.

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Like it's not, obviously it's not, none of these are real, but it's not created, you know, in a serious way.I think it's sort of like a satirical conspiracy theory started by some guy in America GPE that, kind of just wanted to show the kind of misinformation and how easily it spread, I'm guessing. And I think most people that, you know, spout that stuff about this know that it's not real as well, which is why it's quite nice.

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I know a bit of background of this because I was listening to a podcast that was from back in 2006. And I can't remember exactly where in America GPE it was, but it was kind of like a comedy group decided they were going to have a forum, if you like, where they lived to say that they think that birds are decoys. And the reason they sit on electric poles is because that's how they recharge

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and stuff like that.

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And the local news network picked it up, but didn't do it like it was a joke. They picked it up like it was an actual story. Oh, God.

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So, of course, then it started growing and growing and growing.

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I think that's where it came from. Amazing.

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Yeah, just from a joke. But that's a great one that is.

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It's hilarious.

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Well, again, that was one I hadn't really heard of,

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but talking to the kids earlier,

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that was one of Eli PERSON's favourites.

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It's like, oh, well, you should do the one about birds not being yours.

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Really?

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That's where legends are made.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Absolutely crazy.

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It's ridiculous.

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Yeah.

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Anyway, that's a good one as well.

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Okay, talking of legends, Bigfoot is my number 10 or Sasquatch PERSON or whatever you want.

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Now, the one thing I think about this crazy world that we live in is that there are things in it that people can't explain.

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But one thing I don't understand when it comes to something like Bigfoot PERSON, why there are never any great photos.

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They're always great.

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They're always great. They're all even video.

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Yeah, it's just terrible photographs.

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The one reason I wanted to ask about Bigfoot

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is because have either of you seen the trailer for Sasquatch Sunset WORK_OF_ART? No.

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I thought you were about to say,

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however have you seen Bigfoot PERSON?

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Yeah, me too.

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You said it so seriously, yeah.

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Because I have.

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Have you seen Bigfoot PERSON?

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Have you seen Bigfoot PERSON? Come on. You must have done.

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You must have done. I mean, I was going to know.

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You're travelling, Sophie PERSON. I can't wait when I look on Twitter.

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He lives in Hawaii. I look on Twitter and Sophie's doing her next piece of art and it's a picture of Bigfoot PERSON.

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But it's really grainy. Like, it's a really shit, painting.

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But there's a movie coming out called Sasquatch Sunset. And if you get a chance, I'll put it on the video playlist for our Patreon ORG subscribers.

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It is, pardon my French LANGUAGE, fucking crazy, right?

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Oh really?

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Now it stars Jesse Eisenberg PERSON from the social media and stuff like that.

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But there's no, there's no dialogue in it.

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It's just about a Sasquatch PERSON family.

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And it is absolutely crazy.

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And you don't realize it's Jesse Eisenberg PERSON until it comes up.

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And it says starring Jesse Eisenberg and it's just this Sasquatch PERSON person in the family.

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It's mental.

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It's crazy. How has that got made?

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That's from your producer's hat, isn't it?

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Your producer's hat. I'm imagining. Yeah, I'm imagining like a Sasquatch.

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I'm imagining like a Sasquatch version of the Flintstones PERSON or something.

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It kind of is, but there's a red band trailer on the thing.

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And the first thing you see are two Sasquash is having sex. And it is just like you go, did I really just see that?

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Did I really just see that?

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That's a strong opening, no, isn't it?

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It's a strong opening.

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Indeed it is. So what are we saying?

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Bigfoot PERSON, yeah, your nay. Is there some deep part of a Canadian NORP forest where there's a missing link?

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There could be some feral person sort of wandering around

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but I don't think there's some sort of weird,

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I don't know, no.

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It's the evidence, isn't it?

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There should be,

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with the kind of cameras

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that everybody has got these days,

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you should be able to get

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some good evidence that there is some kind of Bigfoot Sasquatch missing link.

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Lotnest, the formidable snowman.

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Yeah, those mystical creatures.

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Yeah, I'm going to say no as well.

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Although I think there are some weird things out there,

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like maybe, yeah, like you say, like feral people and stuff like that.

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I've heard so many stories about,

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because loads of people go missing in national parks in America GPE.

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It's like a whole thing.

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And under really weird circumstances as well.

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And probably a lot of them,

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they get lost or kidnapped or something.

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But there's some weird stuff going on.

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But I'm going to say no.

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You can't get more feral than will feral, of course.

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Yeah.

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There you can. Yeah. Thank you very much. Wow. You can't get more feral than Will PERSON feral, of course. Feral health. There you can. Yeah, yeah.

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Thank you very much.

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Wow.

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If you said to me who, what, who would you consider in the Hollywood echelons as being like big, I would have said Will Feral?

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Yeah.

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I mean, he's tall.

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And he's tall.

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Yeah, he's tall.

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And he's full feral. Okay, Jals PERSON. Your number nine, please.

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Princess Diana's PERSON death wasn't an accident.

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That's my number six. Okay. That's my number six.

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Yeah, so this conspiracy started quite quickly.

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Yes, it did. It's like almost like the same day. Yeah. This can't be an accident. You know, it's just too.

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How could possibly like be a car accident when someone dies? So yeah. And then it was obviously kind of exacerbated by, because she was seeing, so with the context, she was seeing Daudi PERSON fired at the time. They were in the car together in Paris GPE.

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Was it Paris GPE or something?

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Yes, there was Paris GPE.

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And they died together in the vehicle.

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And his father was Muhammad, fired who at the time was the owner of Fullen Football Club ORG, and he owned Harrods ORG and all sorts of different things.

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And he was obviously very eminent about, like, there was something going on. He didn't think it was a straight car crash and kind of accused it of the being, like the British monarchy being involved in somehow. Like they didn't want an Egyptian Muslim NORP son-in-law kind of thing, you know, want to be part of the, so that kind of started. And then there was something about the driver also Paul Henry PERSON, I think he was being drunk.And also that there's a thing about him being on the payroll, the National Intelligence Service ORG, because obviously they didn't want Diana to be around either for some reason. I don't know what the National Intelligence Service ORG does, but obviously they didn't like that for some reason. But anyway, so yeah, so there'sseveral kind of different conspiracies within the one conspiracy, I mean, about there's different kind of theories about why it happened. Do you think that

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that kind of conspiracy is the fact that people can't accept

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that she just died in a terrible car crash when she was being chased through the streets of Paris GPE? Yeah, by paparazzi.

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Obviously, it wasn't a normal death, but you know what I mean?

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It's like kind of, yeah.

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I mean, has there ever been a celebrity death, a big celebrity death where people haven't

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conspired that it actually was fake and they're still alive, you know, Elvis, Tupac, all these Elvis and Johnny Cash PERSON, like, I'm sure there is a conspiracy theory for every celebrity that has died where people just don't want to believe that they're dead.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's the heroes, isn't it?

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And like, Dan, it was so loved by the British public.

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Yeah.

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And I think that's also that kind of, you know, like the press being involved

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and like the whole kind of thing around like the paparazzi

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and how it occurred, I suppose.

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Yeah.

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There's a lot of kind of, yeah.

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And you had someone like Mohammed Fayette PERSON who he shouted his mouth off a lot anyway. He never got an English NORP passport. I think British passport was one thing that pissed him off. So we had a lot of things that he wanted to. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's just,

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I can remember the day that we woke up and found out because we were supposed to go and see,

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we were going to go and see wet, wet, wet that night in Birmingham GPE. Oh, what a washout.

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I know. Sorry.

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Although we did actually still go. Yeah, kids, those days, there wasn't internet. You had to phone up and find out if the gig was still on.

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But it was such a weird atmosphere.

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Nobody really wanted to party.

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Did they do any dedications?

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No, I think they came out.

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Called upon the wishing well.

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This one's for you.

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I think they came out at the start and said,

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look, we're just going to just going to do it,

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you know, just carry on as if normal. We know it's a bad, you know, a hard time and stuff.

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And it was just a real, we'll get you through this, guys.

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Yeah, we'll get you through this. Come on. Love is all around. Come on. Come on.

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Marty PERSON pillows flicking his ponytail in the back. He was. He was. He was. He was loving it.

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But yeah, very, very strange. Very, very strange. Okay, then. So for your number nine.

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Okay.

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My number nine is we live in a simulation.

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I've got that as number eight, living in the matrix.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Nice.

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It's kind of fascinating.

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Yeah, kind of.

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I think that's why probably people believe it is because it's like they believe that we don't really have any control over anything and everything's sort of predestined.

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And I think it's one step down from just religion, you know, in my mind.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I think it's quite cool. I don't really, really believe it.

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But at the same time, I don't know.

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It's, I don't know, I kind of want to believe it.

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I was going to say, sorry, save, but like, was the idea of the Matrix WORK_OF_ART, did that, was

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that before the Matrix WORK_OF_ART film?

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Like, it feels like it's become more, maybe people were into it, the idea of it more

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since the film came out.

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Yeah.

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And also, do you remember that game, The Sims PRODUCT?

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Yes.

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I mean, I think that sort of thing came out as well around the also, do you remember that game, The Sims PRODUCT? Yes. Yeah. I mean,

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I think that sort of thing

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came out as well around the same time.

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It was like SimCity,

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Sim.

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Yeah.

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And wasn't the thing?

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A roller coaster type of.

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Second life?

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Do you remember second life?

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No,

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vaguely,

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vaguely,

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where you basically,

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you had your own life,

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but online.

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And I think it was,

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I think the American NORP office

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did a,

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did a bit about it.

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Right. And you just lived your perfect life online while you were a loser in real life but you were like successful and

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yeah yeah so the big question then I can't remember I can never remember which way around

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red bill red pill blue pill was but if had the choice, would you stay in the simulation

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or would you become free?

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Sophie PERSON, what would you do?

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I think I probably stay in the simulation.

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It depends what,

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you know what?

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It depends what out of the simulation looks like

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because somebody,

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I was listening to a podcast recently

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and they were sort of saying,

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you know,

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they were talking about David Ike

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and how he's kind of, he's like living in the real world and we're all like blind to it. And they're joking kind of like, well, you know,if the real world is where David Ike is, I think it's probably better to be in this world,

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to be honest with you,

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because he's kind of living in a very shit world right now.

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Yeah, yeah.

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If we took it like it was just like

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the Matrix WORK_OF_ART, I mean,

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Giles PERSON, what would you do?

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Well, like Sophie PERSON says,

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it depends. I mean, like, I don't know, like, obviously in the film, if we want to sort of use that as a sort of metaphor for it,Keanu Reeves PERSON was just some, like, techy drone. I can see why he chose to, like, find out more because his life was fairly dull and boring.

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So he wasn't very fulfilled as a human being.

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So maybe if, you know, maybe I would take the pill.

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But then at the same time, I don't know. It's really, it's a hard question, actually. Yeah, I think the scene when Joe Pantiliano PERSON is in the restaurant and he's being offered by eating the steak.

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And he's eating that.

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I mean, once you see that, just keep in the simulation, I'll stay in the similar.

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I'm not eating.

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What he's saying?

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I know, I know this steak isn't real, but it's delicious.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I always, I sometimes think, you know, if life is a simulation, like, sometimes it's fun to imagine when, you know, when something good happens, like, you know, something good happens at work or whatever.

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And then I'm always like, well, if I am being controlled, like they've got my back right now, you know, they love me.

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You've leveled up, basically.

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Yeah, they're doing me a solid here.

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Do you guys ever have that thought that you're in the Truman Show WORK_OF_ART?

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Do you ever think that this is all being set up just for me?

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Not really, no.

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No.

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There are times where for a split second I might think about it,

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but then I might think,

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but all those people that are walking over there,

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wouldn't be walking over there just because they're in my show.

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It doesn't make sense.

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That would mean that you guys are just here specifically now

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to be on my podcast,

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which I mean you are,

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but that would be the only thing you were doing.

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Then you'd go off and...

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I think if I started to think that I was in the Truman Show WORK_OF_ART, I'd be kind of really aware of people trying to sell me stuff all the time.

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Everything. Yeah. Look at this lovely pickle that I've got at the cupboard. I don't know. I'd just be very wary of everybody. I can't really agree. Just duff beer.

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Yeah, fancy a real cool beer. Have a duff beer.

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Yeah, I only have to record with these pink microphone covers.

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Okay, okay.

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So only two of us had that one.

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That was very close to being our first one.

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My number nine, I'm going for the Illuminati ORG.

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I'm going for some kind of... Okay, that's my number four. That's your number four, okay.

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I mean, I've concluded David Eich within that,

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because Lizards, like, running the world.

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I think some kind of new world order or something that's above everybody that is controlling everything.

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Now, I kind of think that there you if you really look at everything in a

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concentrated sense there are only a certain amount of people or certain amount of companies if you like that control everything that that own everything and then they must have some kind of force or some kind of power in that. Whether it's an actual, what always gets me is when somebody who becomes really famous, all of a sudden they're a member of the Illuminati ORG. And you think, well, what's the cutoff?

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Like if you have 500 million, if you have 499,999,999,000, 99.9 pounds,

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you're just under, but you get another pound. All of a sudden, come in, you can come in, we'll tell you all our secrets.

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I don't believe in that kind of thing.

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And when do you become a lizard?

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Wow. Because at one point, you're human and then you're lizard folk. Or would you not always be a lizard? Well, yeah, I mean, but like if you're saying like you only get into the Illuminati ORG at a certain point,

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like is that like your lizardness is kind of drawn out of that. I think they're different things.

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Okay.

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Like the Illuminati ORG is like a secret society, right?

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And it kind of like, you know, and to be fair, like they say that 99% of the world's

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money is owned by 1% of the population.

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So there's the whole idea of the one%ers and all of that sort of stuff.

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It kind of makes sense.

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You know, there are those 1%ers in certain people within the world that are more

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powerful for sure.

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Listen to Sophie PERSON, the voice of reason.

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I mean, it's true, though.

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Like, you know, the little people over here.

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But I also feel like something like that, or say something like,

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did we land on the moon or JFK PERSON assassination,

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I feel they have to be false

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because Donald Trump has been president of the United States GPE.

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And you know that if those things are true,

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the first thing he would do is come out and go,

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they're true, they're all true, they're all true.

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Because he wouldn't be able to stop himself.

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He would have to be the first person to tell everybody.

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That's why I don't let him near that information but he would ask wouldn't you know that you would ask as president it'd be the first thing he'd ask come on the aliens are being a weird lizard man

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I don't know if he would be able to like that's it

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he's the king of the lizard men

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I think the minute he got I think the minute he got voted in

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the White House FAC just went and came to him.

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Shut down.

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And we're like, everybody, right, we need to sort the files out.

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We need to have fake files.

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Trump PERSON can't read.

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Because he's stealing all the files.

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He's putting them in his Mar-a-Lago ORG toilet.

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Yes. Oh, my lord.

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Okay.

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Number eight for you then, please, Giles PERSON.

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Aliens built the pyramids.

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Ooh, okay. You've been watching ancient built the pyramids. Oh, okay.

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You've been watching ancient aliens by any chance.

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No, I haven't.

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You haven't seen that.

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No.

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What's ancient aliens?

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Love it.

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Would I?

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Would I, though?

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It's got this guy in it.

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I'm going to Google it, actually, because there's this guy in the presenter who's wacky as fuck.

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Really?

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You surprise me. It's not being presented by Brian Cox PERSON.

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Brian Cox PERSON, yeah. So this is,

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wacky hair. So this theory, while you're looking at up, this theory has been around for quite a while, but in recent years, some big celebs or big, you know, influenceslike Joe Rogan.

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Elon Musk has also tweeted about this. Because I think the conspiracy comes from the idea that

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ancient Egyptians NORP couldn't be sophisticated enough to have created some brick structure. You know, it has to be something that's new or made by something another worldly thing because it's impossible that 4,000 years ago some people couldhave built something. I mean, they took 80 odd years to make some of those buildings.

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So I think, you know, but anyway, so that's kind of the principle of the conspiracy theory. Sorry, Sophie PERSON. Who's the guy? Just Google Giorgio A. Sukhalis. That's Sukhalos. God,io A. Sucalos PERSON. God,I probably butchered that name. Yeah,

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that should be a problem.

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G-I-O-R-G-I-O. Yeah.

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I hope everybody listening is no Googling this as well

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because otherwise it's a loss. It's a lost course. Cacalos PERSON. A T-S-O-U. K-A-L-O-S.

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He's Swiss NORP, is he? Oh, I don't know.

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I found him.

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Here he is. Can you see that?

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There he is.

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Look, that's him.

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That's not the face of a conspiracy theorist at all.

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No.

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I mean, what is his profession?

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What is his,

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oh,

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God. So he's a professional.

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So he is a,

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he is a uphologist.

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Oh.

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So he's a promoter of pseudo-scientific ancient astronauts hypothesis. Okay.

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This is your regular kind of guy. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So he's done a show, has he, that you've watched. Well,

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no,

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he does a lot of presenting. I opened up the picture more fully. Yeah, right? Yeah. Yeah. So he's done a show, has he, that you've watched. Well, no, he does a lot of presenting. I opened up the picture more fully. Yeah, right?

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Yeah.

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Do you see what I mean by the hair? He's hilarious.

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He's like a mad professor, but he presents on this show, ancient aliens,

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which is where, I think, where this is all come from this.

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I'll see if I can find some footage of that to put on the video play.

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So he's hilarious.

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He's Swiss NORP.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So I'll check that out for sure.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. I know that one of the points that Joe Rogan says is that he thinks that they're, that

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that society back in those days was a lot more advanced than we are.

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Right.

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I've heard that.

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And then there was some sort of cataclysmic event that completely wiped them out.

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And then everybody had to start again.

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And that's the reason that the technology from back then we've, we've got no record of it. that completely wiped them out. And then everybody had to start again.

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And that's the reason that the technology from back then,

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we've got no record of it.

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Again, it's a theory that you can either believe or not.

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I've heard that as well about some ancients and not Egyptians NORP, but some other ancient civilization.

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Mayan NORP and stuff like, Mayan.

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No, Aztecs NORP, that kind of thing. No, like some kind of, I would guess you would call it fictional. Civilization.

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The best of these conspiracy theories.

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A lost kind of civil, like Atlantis LOC and that kind of thing.

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Exactly.

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Yeah, well, I've heard that as well that Atlantis LOC was actually a really civilized, civilization that had all this technology and they got greedy and destroyed the earth like we're doing now,

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to be fair.

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And it's probably where there was a place where a band called Wet Wet, Wet ORG would be successful.

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It would be Atlantis LOC, wouldn't it?

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Yeah, yeah. Thank you very much.

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I'm just waiting for you to press that button and it, it's just, meow.

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It will be. It will be. Don't worry.

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Okay, then Sophie PERSON, you're number eight Don't worry. Okay, then Sophie.

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You're number eight then, please. Okay.

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My number eight was Denver International Airport FAC.

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Oh.

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Have either of you heard of this before?

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I have heard of this. I can't remember what the context was, though. But I have heard of it.

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It's all kind of nonsense surrounding this airport. And it's a funny one. Like, it's a strange airport. It's kind of got some weird art in it. There's a big horse statue outside the front. And I've flown into it quite a few times and never realized there was all these conspiracies until someone was like, oh, you know about theDenver International Airport FAC conspiracy, don't you? And I googled it. And it's kind of like, first of all, they thought that there was some kind of like underground tunnels and bunkers and stuff for all the elite people to go to if there was an alien invasion. And there's some alien, you know, someone's drawn a picture of an alien on the wall.There's some weird apocalyptic artwork. And then they think that there's some kind of Nazi NORP affiliation as well because they say that the runways are in the shape of a swastika which they're not really very vague. Not really.

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Well, I mean

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you could interpret it as a swastika but you could also

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interpret it as anything really.

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And then yeah and then they also think that the airport is governed by I can't even bloody remember now. There was so many governed by some organisation.It might have even been the Nazis NORP, I can't remember. But there's just so much swirling around Denver International Airport FAC. And at one point, they did a bunch of work on it. And one of the baggage belts wouldn't work or something. So then that became a big conspiracy. Like, oh, that's just proof.It's proof that, you know, they're up to something. It's just so weird. And it's just an airport. And it's just a weird building with lots of weird art. That's it.

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Do you feel that it's just somebody that was sat and had a layover maybe at Denver GPE? And they're there for like seven hours. And they think, I'm sick and tired of this fucking airport. Right.

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What can I make up?

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And all of a sudden, it's like, it's the Nazis NORP.

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Yeah, well, it begs belief.

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That looks like a swastika.

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I think that they've really capitalised in it because the airport itself has made a lot of money from these conspiracies.

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And they had like a whole conspiracy theory month or week or something where they just like fully went all out and like

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hammed up these signs of aliens and stuff like that.

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There you go. That's where the money making money out of it comes from, isn't it?

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Right. Exactly. But I feel like if you go to any airport, you know, like if you went to Heathrow FAC,

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for example, there's pictures of the queen everywhere. I'm sure someone could.

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She's a lizard. Yeah. I'm sure someone could think of a conspiracy theory to do with that.

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You're just laughing to yourself.

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I love you, you're stifling a laugh.

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She's a lizard.

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She's a lizard.

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Oh, God.

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Oh, dear.

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I'd take a bit more of a delve into that because is that...

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I have never heard of that at all.

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It just sounds ridiculous, doesn't it?

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Oh, really?

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Yeah, it is.

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I mean, I'd never heard a it before someone mentioned it to me.

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But, yeah, it's just bizarre.

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It's just proof that humans can make a conspiracy theory out of anything.

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Indeed. Indeed.

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It's quite a random one, isn't it? It's like quite a weird. Yeah.

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Like just out of the airport. Yeah.

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I mean, there's something about Denver GPE as a place is, I think it's less likely to have any huge natural disasters or something compared to many other places. Like, there's probably not going to be any hurricanes or tsunami, safe from tsunamis, just stuff like that. I've heard that about Colorado GPE. So maybe, I don't know, maybe that's why the bunker's there.

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Right, right. And they were just bored and wanted to make something up. Yeah.

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Yeah, so safe, we have to do something.

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Yes.

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Just to make it interesting.

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Yeah.

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I heard a true story when I was out, when I was in Hawaii about a celebrity that is

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similar that is actually true.

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And I'll tell you after we stop recording this,

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because it's top secret.

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My friend told me.

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Okay.

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Sorry listeners about that.

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Sorry that we tempted you with that.

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Okay, my number eight was living in the Matrix WORK_OF_ART.

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So we're back to you then, Giles, with your number seven.

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Well, we sort of touched on it a minute ago.

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The Lost City of Atlantis LOC.

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I put this in specifically because Sophie PERSON and I have talked about this before.

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And I know she's quite keen on it as a concept.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, so I put it in.

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It's really cool.

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Yeah.

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Joe Rogan has somebody on the podcast where he said he thought he knew where

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Atlantis LOC used to be.

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Right. Because the way that the seabed kind of rides up is like it's corroded by,

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and it's just he just had different ways of saying that that is where a building would have been

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and it wouldn't be like that naturally.

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That something would have been there and it's under the sea.

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Okay. Were you convinced or?

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I mean, it's like anything, isn't it?

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It's like, unless you see, for me,

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unless I see a good quality photograph or video,

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charts and diagrams mean nothing.

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It's, it's, it can be somebody.

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Someone's got a much higher intellect than me,

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which isn't hard.

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Just a good way of describing something will make me go, okay, you've got a really good point there.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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No, I was going to say there's a Disney documentary about Atlanta.

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Well, it's like finding lost cities or something, and one of them is Atlantis LOC.

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And it comes up with this place and it's like, was definitely here because you know, they've taken

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like a, you know, and they take photos above sonar or whatever it is. Yeah, yeah. And it looks like it and you're like, oh, that's it. And you know, being kind of gullible,

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I'm like, yeah, that that's it. I truly believe that that is where Atlanta says. And then at the end,

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it's like, but we don't think it's there. We think it's this place and they shake,

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take you somewhere else and you're like, it's definitely that place as well. And they're like but also it could be this place and I'm like I just believe anything

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honestly I'll just believe anything it all gets shot to shit when it's like that isn't it then because

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it could be anywhere it could be anywhere or nowhere yeah and I'll believe all of them I think

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save and I first started talking about this because we were watching we were doing like a Netflix

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watched together type thing one night. And we were watching

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some show about like kind of Mayan NORP history or something. And it was like and and, and, and

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and we were all and I was sort of being very skeptical about it. Like, oh yeah. And then you're

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like, but you must believe in Atlanta. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, look at the facts, Charles PERSON.

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Yeah. Look at the facts. Look at the facts. Look at the facts. Look at the facts. Look what Joe Rogan said.

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Yeah.

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I read it on Wikipedia ORG.

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It must be true.

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Oh, dear.

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But it is fascinating.

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That's why I had to have it in because I thought it was young.

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It was a thing that we talked about.

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But nobody, the thing is nobody knows what really happened for 500 years ago because nobody was there.

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It's just stuff that's been passed on, taking it from art.

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You don't know. I've always said

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I would love to have been in the middle

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of a medieval battle to see

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whether it would be like it is in the movies.

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I can imagine it would just be

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horrible and probably would have lasted very long.

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Be stinky as well. Oh my gosh.

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Can you imagine it? It just be, oh, what a mess.

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You know what? I don't know if you remember this, perhaps.

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I think some of my skepticism

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about Atlantis LOC has

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stemmed from the fact that in the

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eight, well, it must have been in the 70s, actually.

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Not the man from Atlantis LOC.

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No, no. There's a movie called

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Warlords of Atlantis WORK_OF_ART.

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Oh my God.

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Oh, it's horrendous.

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Like, it's a proper, a bit like those

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cities, you know, do you remember the Sindo ORGw? Oh, well, something's happened tomorrow. Where you's a proper, a bit like those... You know, do you remember the Sindo?

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Oh, something's happened tomorrow.

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Where you gone?

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You're looking very pensive, though.

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What happened?

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I tell you, it's because we're doing conspiracies.

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They're trying to shut us down.

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It's the bird pigeon Wi-Fi people.

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It is.

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What happened?

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I don't know.

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The video has gone.

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Oh.

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Can you hear me still? We can still hear you. Yeah, that's weird. Oh,? I don't know. The video has gone. Oh. Can you hear me still?

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We can still hear you.

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Yeah, that's weird.

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Oh, it's all coming back.

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Not for us.

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Not for us.

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I'll tell you what.

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I'm just about to go you into Walt ORG.

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Atlantis LOC, which is a fantastic film.

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Yeah.

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The studio that did that movie, they do not want you to talk about it, Jiles.

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That's what it is.

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It's the Illuminati ORG.

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It is.

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I'll tell you the weird thing is, back in the day when we were doing our first kind of podcast,

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we did a podcast called Movie Heaven WORK_OF_ART, there he is.

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We had a woman on who was a massive, massive conspiracy theorist.

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Oh, okay.

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Right.

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Amazing.

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And while we were talking, my microphone stand collapsed.

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And she went, she went, there, see, see.

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Yeah, that's the evidence.

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They're trying to shut you down.

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The Illuminati ORG.

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Oh, wow.

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And for a split a second, I was genuinely, I shit myself because I thought, oh, my God.

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She's right.

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She's right.

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And it wasn't, it was just, the thing wasn't like, you know, oh, you've got, why have you got?

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What's happening?

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What was that?

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It is, it is.

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So, anyway, warlords of Atlantis, Doug McClure PERSON.

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Doug McClure PERSON.

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Yeah, so basically there's these people on a boat and then this massive giant kind of octopus pulls them down to Atlantis LOC.

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And then in Atlantis LOC in the movie, they've got very high tech technology.

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You can see the future and all sorts of stuff.

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And there's a scientist guy.

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And it's all very silly.

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But yeah, that's my kind of thing about Atlantis LOC has been that movie.

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Right.

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Yeah, because mine would be man from Atlantis with Patrick Duffy PERSON.

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That's the only time I knew about that because he had the webbed fingers and the webbed feet.

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Oh, yeah, they had webbed things in this thing.

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Oh, did they?

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Yeah.

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Yeah, it's a very, um, Atlantis LOC thingy thing to have like web stuff.

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Yeah.

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Webbed stuff.

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Yeah, that's weird because it wasn't, wasn't Atlantis LOC like a real,

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it was just a normal city that flooded and then went underwater.

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But somehow

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it's become that everyone, oh, how many cameras have you got on you? What's going on?

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There's a woman going on here. Here we go. I'm telling you. It's because we've never had this

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before and we're doing conspiracies. We move on from Atlantis LOC. It's scary me now. I think we need

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to. Those Atlantis truthers. I think it doesn't mess up your audio. No, it's fine. Those Atlantis truthers, they're really kicking us hard tonight.

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Anyway, I'm just waiting for the next shot of Giles PERSON to be like the top of his head.

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I don't even know where that camera is.

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Look at this.

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What worries me is that we're in Giles PERSON's bedroom.

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We're in Giles' bedroom when there's at least two different cameras in there already.

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I don't even want to know what you and Michelle PERSON are up to.

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I tell you what is, because my laptop's there,

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and that's got its camera on.

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And I've got a webcam up here.

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Right.

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That's why it's flicking.

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There's one there.

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That's why.

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Yeah.

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Conspiracy there.

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Yeah, it's not multiple cameras.

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The Giles Paley Phillips PERSON conspiracy, bedroom conspiracy.

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Oh, God.

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That's going to spread like wildfire on.

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That's the episode title. That is. Okay. Then, Sophie PERSON. That's going to spread like wildfire. That's the episode title.

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That is.

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Okay, then Sophie, your number seven, please.

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Okay, my number seven is Finland GPE does not exist.

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Oh, yeah.

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I almost put this one on, actually. I've never heard this one.

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Well, I hadn't heard of it before we interviewed Dom Jolly PERSON on our podcast,

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and he was talking about conspiracy theories.

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And that was one that he introduced to us. Apparently, so the origins of this is that there was a Reddit thread all about like silly things parents used to tell their kids, like lies

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that parents told their kids. And someone said, oh, for some reason my parents told me when

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I was a kid that Finland GPE didn't exist. And everyone was sort of laughing about it.

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Anyway, that sort of spread like wildfire.

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And before you knew it, there's a bunch of people that now believe that Finland GPE actually

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doesn't exist. And there's not really any way of proving that it exists. Because, you know, if we fly to Finland GPE, you get off at the airport and it says, welcome to Finland GPE.

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Then how do you know you're actually in Finland GPE?

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You could be anywhere.

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Wouldn't that be the same with anywhere?

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Yeah. Yeah, totally. But I think anywhere? They were of every country, yeah.

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Yeah, totally.

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Denver GPE doesn't exist.

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No. Exactly.

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I think they're saying, oh, well, actually it doesn't exist. It's just, did they say something about it's something to do with China GPE? I don't know, but it's utterly ridiculous.

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That was random. It's something to do with China GPE.

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Or like they're using it as like a base for military operations or something. I don't know.

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But it's like it's just taken on a life of its own. And now there's a huge bunch of people that think, no, Finland GPE doesn't actually exist. And it is really hard to prove that a country exists.

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Yeah. What about the people that live in Finland GPE?

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Well, you know, people would say they think they live in Finland GPE, but they don't because it doesn't exist. Probably like in Sweden GPE or something.

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Or the people that play for Finland GPE, the international football team. What would you, I mean...

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Yeah. Wow.

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They're deluded. They're deluded.

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It feels like there's a lot of evidence to suggest that Finland GPE is a country and that people live there.

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But, you know, if seven or eight people think that it doesn't exist,

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that's a possibility.

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Is that your cut off, Sophie PERSON?

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Yeah.

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For a conspiracy theory, seven or eight.

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Yeah.

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And they're all in one family as well.

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If it's more than half a dozen, then it's definitely true. And they all live in Finland as well, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And they're all in one family as well. If it's more than half a dozen, then it's definitely true.

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And they all live in Finland GPE as well.

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Yeah.

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Exactly.

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Okay, right.

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My number seven is the good old flat earth.

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Oh,

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that's my number five.

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Is that your number five?

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I had that one for number six.

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Okay. There we go. There's our first one. All around the globe.

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All around the globe. I will there we go. There's our first one. All around the globe. All around the globe.

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I will watch videos just to see how deluded these people are.

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And no offence if you are a flat earth person, but you're deluded. I don't understand how you can feel that they're just the same as people that don't think that Finland GPE exists.

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It's just a ridiculous concept

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that time and time again you get found to be wrong,

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yet you still won't accept it.

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I don't quite understand when it comes to that.

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I guess with the flat earth one as well,

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like it kind of, it knocks on to lots of other conspiracy theories. You know, like space travels, it doesn't exist and like satellites.

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So I guess you're like, because you know, obviously there's no footage of the round

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earth.

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So that it kind of had a bit of a knock on effect into other ones, I think. Yeah.

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I mean, I guess if you're, if you're a flat earther, you probably have other conspiracy theories.

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I think so.

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That is true. And I was going to say as well, the flat earth one is one that particularly people seem to form some kind of like identity based on like they really take it as they're like it's a lifestyle it's a way of life you know like you you can't tell them any different kind of thing whereas like

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I said at the beginning of the show if someone came to me and said the earth is actually flat we've

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discovered that it wouldn't change my life in any way.

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I would kind of be like, oh, really, that's weird.

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You can get on with my life.

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But these flat earthers, it's like they've built this whole life around it.

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It's crazy.

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I might go and walk to the edge.

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But then why don't they?

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Yeah, exactly. That's why I don't understand.

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Is have the courage of your convictions and go to the edge and then get some footage

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and then come back and go, look, here is the edge. I found the edge of the earth. go to the edge and then get some footage and then come back and go

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look,

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here is the edge.

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I found the edge of the earth.

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I found the edge

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and I nearly dropped off

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but I didn't

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but here is a picture of the edge.

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Then I would say,

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right.

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Do they think it's like

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Newfoundland GPE or something?

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I don't think Newfoundland GPE exists.

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I don't think,

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I think it's next to Finland GPE,

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isn't it?

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Newfoundland GPE.

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Oh, right.

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Right.

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It's near Atlantis LOC.

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That's why they don't go there because they're like, no, no, no, I would go, but it doesn't exist.

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And also, you know, it makes you think, have you ever been on a boat and just looked at the horizon and seen the curve?

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Exactly.

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It's so weird.

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I know there was footage.

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I can't remember who it was that did it, but some flat earthers decided to look through a telescope or something and see there was a point.

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And if there was a curve, you wouldn't be able to see the point or something.

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And then they looked and they couldn't see the point. And they were going, ah, we can't see the point.

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And it's kind of gave them their proof, but they still wouldn't accept it.

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They said that there was something wrong with a camera, something wrong with a telescope.

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I don't know. It's just ridiculous.

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Which is then it makes me think it's, the fascinating thing is the conspiracy theorist.

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What, you know, what is it that drives them to have this, you know, even when you're showing

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all the evidence in the world, why you still believe it's not, you know.

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I think, I think it's this idea that they have some like unknown knowledge and they're like,

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you know, they're not believing what the higher powers

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are just telling us. They're feeding us misinformation. They have this like special thing that no

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one else has. And I think you never ever find unless unless a conspiracy theorist is really

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making money out of it and taking advantage of, you know, innocent people and vulnerable people like the Alex Jones PERSON of the world, you never find a conspiracy theorist who is like, feels really happy and in control of their own life. Do you know what I mean? It goes back to the Matrix WORK_OF_ART thing we're talking about. Like, it's often these people that probably do feel a bit out of control in their livesthat cling on to these things.

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Yeah, there's a paranoia. There's a like, you know, people are out to get us. Like, you know, there's a kind of distrust of everything, I think, as well. But like that you know this is a kind of untrust of everything I think yeah well but like you say there's that kind of righteous

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ignition that you know they've got some knowledge that other people don't have which is what I was saying at the beginning with some people's conspiracy their truth because

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they to think that it's you know to have this thing it's got to be true that I've got

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they do believe it yeah I think also can link into the Illumin. Say you've got some kind of big new world order that is looking

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after everything. If the little people are just worried and fighting amongst themselves about

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something like Flat Earth LOC, they're not going to worry what the big, big people are doing. They're all fighting about these stupid little things. So let them worry about all that. And,

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you know, whether there's Atlantis LOC, whether there's aliens,

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and we'll carry on just doing what we need to do, making billions and trillions of dollars or whatever.

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That's another conspiracy theory. Yeah.

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Okay, Charles, you want number six then, please? Well, the Titanic PRODUCT didn't crash and sink.

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Okay. Yeah, I've heard that one. Yeah. Apparently, it's to do with the fact that they think it got swapped out before it set sail.

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That's right. The Olympia FAC, which was the other kind of sister ship of the same, I think it was made by the same.

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White Star, wasn't it?

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Yeah, white star, yeah.

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And, you know, Titanic PRODUCT's just like, you know, okay somewhere.

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Oh, okay, but either way, know, okay somewhere. Oh, okay.

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But either way, either way.

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Something, something.

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And killed lots of people.

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Exactly.

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So it's like a point.

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Again, it's totally pointless.

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And obviously there's irrefutable evidence that Titanic PRODUCT, the actual Titanic sank.

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And obviously there are remains of hit down in the ocean.

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And some people have gone down to. Yeah.

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Yeah. So it seems like that because, yeah, it seems like like that because yeah, it seems like that conspiracy is kind of like they know that it happened because there's lots of evidence and they know that lots of people died.

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So all they can really do is say, well, it wasn't actually named the Titanic PRODUCT.

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Yeah. It wasn't Titanic PRODUCT. Yeah. It was a different name.

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Yeah. So it's almost like it's just yeah. So a big ship. Yeah. Cank almost like, it's just, yeah. So a big ship sank,

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crashed into an iceberg, sank and killed lots of people.

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I don't give a fuck what it's called.

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Yeah, it's actually.

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Yeah, loads of people died.

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It was really tragic.

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What was the name of the other ship?

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Did you say?

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Olympia FAC.

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The Olympia FAC.

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Yeah.

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The thing is that you'd never been able to say

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that something was a Titanic PRODUCT struggle.

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If the Titanic PRODUCT had it. You know? No, you'd say it able to say that something was a Titanic struggle if the Titanic had a...

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Wow, that's it.

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You know?

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No, you'd say it was an Olympic struggle.

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There you go.

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I don't know.

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I think the Olympia FAC sounds like you even call a name, to be honest with you.

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I would rather it have been called the Olympia FAC.

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So it was called, the reason it was called Titanic was because the guy, one of the guys who owned that shipping company, it was part of J.P. Morgan ORG.

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Right.

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That company. He was called of J.P. Morgan ORG. Right. That company.

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He was called a titan

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of the industry. So they called it the Titanic.

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There you go.

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There's a little fact for you. Great facts

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there, Giles PERSON. What happened to

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White Star PRODUCT? Did they ever work again?

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I can't remember. I went to the

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Titanic Museum in Belfast GPE, which if anyone gets a chance to go, is really, really good.

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I can't remember what they said about White Star PRODUCT, whether it had carried on. But it was...

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Yeah.

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Faded into obscurity.

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Here's another little nugget of fact that the Titanic Sankoff, Newfoundland GPE.

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It just fell off the edge.

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Every conspiracy, every conspiracy is just all linked.

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They're all linked.

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Yeah.

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Just out of interest, because I didn't put it on my list and I doubt either of you guys

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did.

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It's quite strange.

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But have you heard about the Alaskan NORP triangle? No.

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Or is it like Bermuda GPE triangle?

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Yeah. Yeah, exactly. But it kind of takes up almost the whole continent, really.

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Continent,

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bloody out, the whole state.

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Don't clip me saying that Alaska GPE is a continent for the love of God. You just said it again,

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so I can take that Alaska

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is a continent bit. So you said it twice there, so thank you. But it almost takes up the whole state. And it's just like a bunch of strange things happening, like ships.I mean, you can't really say ships because it's not on the sea. It's like, you know, on the land. But, you know, planes coming down and stuff like that. Maybe ships off of Alaska GPE. But yeah, lots of weird things happening.

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I didn't realize there were two triangles.

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So you got one in Alaska and one in Bermuda GPE. Apparently so.

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Which one would you rather get lost in?

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Neither if...

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Because I think Bermuda GPE's a bit warmer, right?

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That's true.

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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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And Alaska GPE's full of like weirdos, right?

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Yeah. Lots of conspiracy.

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I can't believe you said that, Sophie, because our podcast is like number six in the

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Alaskan comedy charts. Yeah. Is it, is it? Number five in Bermuda GPE. Is it? Well, I think

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Alaskans NORP are great people. They are. I will say, you're great. You tend to go to Alaska

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if you're like on the lamb, right? Like if you're on the run for something or someone, that's why,

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you know, I was only joking about that, but please don't say anything about any Guatemala GPEn people because we're apparently very big in Guatemala. I don't know what.

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Great country. What country were we big in, Josh? You said the other day or something.

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Oh, the Cayman Islands GPE. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. I think we should go on tour. I would love to go

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on tour. Cuba, the Cayman Islands GPE. Yeah. Wonderful.

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Okay, so Sophie, number six, you said Flat Earth.

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Yeah.

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And at number six, I said the death of Princess Diana.

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So, so, um, I didn't mean to press that one. Read the room.

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I didn't mean to press that one.

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Top quiz, hot shot. Okay, we're going to have a quiz. Now, again, I've taken all of these questions and answers, all these answers from the internet from a poll from 2019. Okay, I'm going to give you a conspiracy theory, and I want you guys to tell me what percentage of people from the pollthought that it was true. All right.

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Okay.

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But what are these,

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the poll, what sort of people are they? Are they from Alaska GPE?

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Yeah,

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they're,

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they're,

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it was a US GPE poll. Oh,

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wow.

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Oh, okay. 80% on each.

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That is important to know. It was a US GPE poll. I've got 10 of them and whoever gets it nearest gets the point. Okay. So, moon landings are fake.What percentage of this 2019 poll? 10. You're saying 10, Charles PERSON? Sophie PERSON?

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Americans, I would say like 41%.

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Okay. It was 11%.

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So, Giles PERSON, gets the point.

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I looked that up earlier.

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Well, did you? Oh, cheat. He's cheating.

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Well, not really, because I did some research.

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I mean, to be fair.

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I did some research, Sophie PERSON.

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And I know, I've been honest about it.

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I feel like I wildly overestimated how stupid Americans NORP are.

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You did.

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You did.

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You did. Right, Kemp PERSON trails. Okay.

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Sophie, you can go first this time.

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I'm going to say lower.

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I'm going to say 7%.

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Okay.

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I was going to say 7.

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Okay, I'll go 4.

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It was 10%.

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So Sophie PERSON, you get that one.

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Well done. Lee Harvey Oswald PERSON you get that one. Well done.

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Lee Harvey Oswald PERSON didn't act alone.

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Giles PERSON.

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16.

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Okay.

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Really?

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I was going to say like 76%.

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The answer was 65%. So Sophie PERSON, you get that one. You get that one.

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Climate change is a hoax. Sophie, over to you first. This one's depressing. I would say like

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22%. Okay, Giles. I think maybe higher. Because I'm just thinking like a lot of Republicans NORP don't

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believe it's true. I'm going to say 37%.

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It was 17%.

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So Sophie PERSON, another one for you.

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You're doing well, mate.

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You're doing well.

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Okay.

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Number five, government is hiding aliens.

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Giles PERSON.

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12%.

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Okay.

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Sophie PERSON.

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How recent is this poll?

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This was 2019.

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Oh, so this was before all of that stuff came out then.

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I'd say like 30%.

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Okay.

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I actually said it was 68% of people believe the government was hiding aliens.

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68%.

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68%.

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How many is that?

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Oh my God. What is that? My God.

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What is that in millions?

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I mean, it's not, obviously not every single American NORP has taken the poll.

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No, I know.

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But if that's indicative of the population, I'm just relaying the information.

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It's not a good loser.

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Okay, so whose go is it now?

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Is it you, Sophie PERSON?

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I think it's you next.

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Oh, right.

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Yes.

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9-11 EVENT was an inside job.

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Hmm.

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Okay.

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I will say 65%.

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Okay.

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I think it's a lot lower than that.

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I think probably 18.

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It was 25%.

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So, Giles PERSON, you got that one.

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Well done.

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Lockness Monster WORK_OF_ART is real.

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Well, American NORP's saying this.

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Yeah, Giles PERSON.

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I think it's probably quite low.

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Six.

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Okay, Sophie PERSON.

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I'll say like 12.

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It was actually 50%.

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50%.

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50% said that the Loch Ness LOC monster is real.

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We'll talk about that in the minute.

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He's definitely from Alaska GPE.

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Definitely.

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Sophie PERSON, the earth is flat.

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2%.

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Okay, Giles PERSON.

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I'll go three.

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It was three percent.

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Wow.

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Did you get an extra point for exact point?

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Don't you think that's a lot though? That's a high number.

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It should be like 0.0.0.0 percent.

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Absolutely.

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Okay, Giles for you. Elvis PERSON is still alive.

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I think that's probably not massively high. I reckon seven.

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Okay.

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Sophie PERSON?

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I'll go nine.

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It was 11%.

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Wow.

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Okay, Giles PERSON, for you to draw, you need to get this one dead on.

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Okay.

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So 5G is toxic, Sophie PERSON.

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I think 40%.

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Okay.

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Giles PERSON.

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I'm going to go a bit lower, 36.

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It was 24%.

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So it was six to Sophie, five to Giles PERSON.

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Well done, Sophie PERSON.

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Well done.

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Thank you.

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Do you know what?

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I think if they did this poll in England GPE,

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it would all be like really low, like minuscule numbers. And again, I think it's just

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because English NORP people just don't care. I think you're right. I do, I genuinely

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think you're right. We're not as into it, are we? I think conspiracy theories in general.

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And the things that surprised me were the ones that I would think were more

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realistic,

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less people seem to believe in.

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But the lost city of Manhattan GPE.

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9-11 EVENT being an inside job or something, you know, I would have thought more people would

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be open to that idea and be like, yeah, probably, you know, there's something going on there.

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But then the lot of this monster, they're like, yeah, I think so.

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Yeah, that checks out.

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The more real world things you think would have a higher kind of thing

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than fantastical monsters kind of thing.

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Okay, back to it.

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So, Jarl, you had Flat Earth at number five.

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So Sophie, what is your number five?

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My number five was The Men in Black.

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Oh, okay.

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Have you got a, here come the men in black?

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I got that, is that?

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Oh, yeah.

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No, that's shit.

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So I don't know if you know much about the men in black,

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like the real, the real life.

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The real ones.

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The real ones.

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Not the Tommy Lee Jones PERSON.

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Not the fictional ones, the real ones.

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So the conspiracy is that the men in black are kind of like the, um,

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clearers of the alien world.

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So if you see something to do with aliens or you see something, um, extraterrestrial,

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the men in black come in and wipe your memories or they threaten you.

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Oh yeah.

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There you go.

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They threaten you and they force you not to tell anyone. They'll

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turn up and they look really creepy because they have very like strange features that look

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kind of like almost human but not quite like often they'll be described as not having any

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facial hair or eyebrows or eyelashes or anything. Hang on so this is the men in black that

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looked like this. Yeah yeah yeah. really really tall with um black suits on

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sometimes like a black hat black sunglasses and they show up um at a place where someone's like

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talk you know talking about they've seen an alien encounter or talking about it or writing a book

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about it and they show up and then threaten them or sometimes you know white people's memories

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there's various different stories about that wow Wow. Is anal probes on the table?

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Oh, yes, please.

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They might do that.

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They might do that.

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Yeah.

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If that's what you want, I guess you could ask for that.

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Different strikes for different folks.

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I know with aliens that there is things like anal probes,

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but I didn't realize that the men in black were supposed to be sort of almost alien-like.

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And is that where anal probes? I thought you were requesting it. I mean, look, I

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don't mind. I'm here on my own

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at the moment. Would they mean up for that?

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Hi, guys. Thanks for coming around.

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What equipment have you

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bought with you? You're telling me you

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haven't brought the anal probes I'm not interested.

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What? Aerobes or? Leave me.

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Anything I was looking forward to. Yes.

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But I watched a like a YouTube video.

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I was going to say a documentary.

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It is what it is.

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It was a YouTube video.

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You showed me this.

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I've watched this with you.

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And yeah, because I showed.

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I was like, watch.

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Look at the facts don't lie, Jals PERSON.

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Look at their face.

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And look at the fact they haven't got eyebrows.

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It must be real.

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This guy was banging on about how he discovered some alien thing and he was starting talking about it and he

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was in a hotel and some men in black visited him anyway. They got the footage from the CCTV ORG and

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these people did come in and they looked really weird. Yeah, I remember. Yeah. Creepy, really tall

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men both look exactly identical in black suits and they kind of walk really strangely

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through the front door of the hotel almost kind of hover they sort of is that right they kind of

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almost hovered through like it was kind of they were gliding they weren't like walking normally

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yeah they were walking very like alien like yeah i remember you said showing me this this this this

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factual's youtube video um and but no, that footage was quite compelling, though.

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It wasn't like they were, obviously, whoever they were, they looked quite weird.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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If they were just regular people, they look quite odd.

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Yeah.

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And that was on YouTube ORG.

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It was on YouTube ORG. I can send you the link if you on.

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Yes, please. I'll put it in the video playlist for our Patreon ORG subscribers.

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I think it was like a BuzzFeed ORG unsold or something.

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Yeah.

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But, you know, it could have just been some weird twins or something. Weird twins.

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They look sort of albino like.

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Oh, really?

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Yeah, yeah.

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No hair.

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No facial hair.

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Anyway. creepy. Okay. So that was your one number five. So if my number five, we did mention it just a minute ago, but I'm going to put 9-11 in there because it's one of those ones thatI think it kind of started the... I can't remember the name. What was the name of the podcast? There wasn't a podcast. The movie that was on YouTube about 9-11 EVENT,the whole conspiracy in 9-11 EVENT,

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which was absolutely massive. And it was all about...

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Well, at 9-11 EVENT, obviously, the Michael Moore PERSON movie had some conspiracies in it, didn't it? It did. George's Bush's PERSON kind of alignmentto the Bin Laden PERSON family. And the fact that Bin Laden PERSON was... Their family had been planed out of America

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on the day after. And that was the thing what I was saying about the fact I'm easily led

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because I like a lot of Michael Moore's PERSON stuff.

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And I watched that

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and I thought, well, then that has got to be the truth.

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Everything he's saying there has got to be true. I trust Michael Moore PERSON. He was right about Columbine EVENT. He was being right about other stuff.

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Exactly.

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But then you do see certain bits about other buildings that fell down where there was specific papers and that that ended up getting destroyed and money that went missing and all of these things. Well, you don't know

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whether it's true or it's false or the fact that the BBC ORG reported on certain bits of it that

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hadn't even happened before, you know, there's a lot of stuff in it that you don't know,

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you know, and I find that something like that, sometimes there's no smoke without fire.

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I don't mean that kind of horribly when it's, you're talking about.

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Don't you dare. No, I'm not going to do for that Sophie PERSON did it then everybody by the way yeah yeah yeah i'll take it i'll take the cancellation yeah so it it kind of but then i think that's

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what feeds i think we were at the very start of that kind of thing where conspiracy theorists

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could have a real voice and and it it was like a snowball rolling down a hill.

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It just grew and grew and grew.

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And now it becomes a thing where people just think there was something specifically not right about that.

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Rather than it just being a horrible thing where terrorists decided.

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Because when you, again, I've said this before when you think about it as horrible as it is it

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was a genius plan to use a fully fueled plane as a bomb so but yeah there's just so many like loose

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ties there that you think oh yeah i mean i don't know what you guys think when it comes to that

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well i never thought of it as a conspiracy theory but i think we've got i mean i've watched that

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not fahrenheit nine eleven EVENT movie i was I thought it was quite compelling like what

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Michael Moore PERSON was saying about you know these links to and the the delay it took

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Bush PERSON to to kind of start doing anything he's I think he was in a school doing a

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that's right reading or something and it was like I mean to be fair that the guy's

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probably quite a lot shock because he's like first um attack on the on the u.s

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it's Pearl Harbor EVENT or whatever so I suppose there's a there's a lot to be said like

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America GPE as always sought themselves as being like kind of unattackable um and the fact that

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you know they had been attacked was probably quite a big shock to the system in that way but um yeah

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so I think you know there's something to be said for some of that stuff but then at the the same time, I think, like you say, it's just, you know, it was an act of terrorism

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by, you know, a group that were, you know, so radicalized and desperate to make a difference

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to their cause that they, you know, they did this horrendous thing.

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What do you think about the conspiracy that it was the government that sort of let it happen so that they

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could go and evade iraq i mean i find that that that seems a bit of a stretch that they would they

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would let you know but yeah yeah i mean there's lots of there's lots of coincidences which is i

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i guess why people are suspicious you know there's lots of, there's lots of coincidences, which is, I guess, why people are suspicious.

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You know, there's lots of, there's like a few people, like high profile people that was

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either supposed to be in the tower or in one of the towers or on the plane.

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And then by chance weren't there when it happened.

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Yeah.

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I think like Michael Jackson was one of them or something.

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I think Mark Wahlberg PERSON was another one.

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He was supposed to be. I think he was supposed to be there.

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Yeah.

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And then it makes you think, well, maybe it is just one of,

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because there's probably lots and lots of people

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that was supposed to be there or supposed to be on the plane

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and weren't and therefore that we don't know about them

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because they're not famous, you know.

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Exactly.

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But at the same time, I mean, dirty politics. It happens, you know, it's one of those same time, I mean, dirty politics, it happens. You know, it's one of those things where I try not to think too much about it just because I think the most important thing are all the victims.

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But at the same time, if we found out tomorrow, you know,

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something got leaked and we found it it was the government.

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I wouldn't be at all surprised.

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No.

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You know, America GPE.

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Americans NORP.

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Well, I mean, this is the thing.

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I mean, it comes with one

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that I've got coming up

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a little bit later on

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in the fact that you don't quite realize

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just what kind of power, especially like an American NORP government has and what the dirty little things that they are doing all around the world that you don't realize

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and you never see, you know.

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But yeah, that's what I've got for number five. Giles, your number four, was the Illuminati. It was.

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Sophie, you're number four.

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So my number four is kind of a blanket conspiracy.

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So I know that we kind of touched on this with Giles as Avril Levine number 10.

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But mine is celebrity conspiracies around them either dying or their life in general.

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Like, you know, we've had Avrodavine, Paul McCartney PERSON is apparently dead as well.

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Yeah.

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Taylor Swift's love life is apparently a complete sham. She just does it for the money. She's got some big agreement.

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She's on the NFL ORG payroll as well, apparently.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I will not have anything said about my Tatee PERSON, okay?

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Oh, don't. Don't. You're part of the problem, Pat. I will not have anything said about my Tatee PERSON, okay, please. Oh, don't, don't. You're part of the problem, Pat PERSON.

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I'm not part of the problem. I want to be part of the problem.

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You're a sheep. I wish I was part of her love life. I really do.

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I think you've got to be like a multi-millionaire, you know, NFL ORG superstar. Yeah, that's not going to happen, is it?

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And Stevie Wonder PERSON isn't blind either, apparently.

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Well, I've seen footage of that.

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I've seen footage of that. Yeah, there was a time when he was on stage with, I think there was a load of people, but I think Paul McCartney PERSON was coming on the stage.

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And a microphone stand was falling towards somebody, and Stevie Wonder PERSON grabbed it and put it and stood it back up.

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He's got hearing and sense of like feel touch and stuff like would you know?

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Well, I mean, look, I don't know. I mean, there's also been footage of somebody saying that.

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I mean, if he's like sort of like, I don't know, um, what's something that you usually lie's for? Well, like driving the car.

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Reading. Stevie Wonder PERSON apparently picked up some comedian and said, don't worry. I'll come and pick you up and Stevie Wonder was driving the car. Now, I driving a car. Reading. Stevie Wonder apparently picked up some comedian and said,

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don't worry, I'll come and pick you up.

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And Stevie Wonder PERSON was driving the car.

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Now, I don't know if that's real or whether it's a comedian trying to get a bit out of it.

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But he said it was completely real.

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I'll try and find that footage and put it on the.

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I would not be getting in a car.

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No, I would not be getting a car.

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It was true for busty.

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No.

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Yeah, I mean, we were chatting to Rory Sutherland yesterday, was it?

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Or the day, yeah, yesterday.

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And he was chatting about how blind people still have that, that sort of sense of survival.

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So if you throw something at a blind person, sometimes they'll just instinctively catch it.

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Right.

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Or like put their arms out of it.

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It's like they, they know something's coming.

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And it's like your reptilian brain kind of reacts before the rest of your senses catch up.

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Right, right.

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So I wonder if it's got something to do with that.

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But I do love the idea of him not being blind.

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I did see another bit of footage when he was presenting Mariah Carey PERSON an award.

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And he held the microphone out for her. And she'd already walked behind him to go to another microphone and he was stood on the stage just with this microphone hanging, you know,

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standing out not and realizing that she wasn't near him. So I don't know.

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I mean, that's what you would do though,

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wouldn't you if you're pretending to be blind?

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What a long con that would be that he's been like 50 years pretending,

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or longer,

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pretending that he's been blind. That's proper method acting that. It is, but he's got enough talent that he wouldn't need to do that to, no, pretending that he's been blind. That's proper method acting that.

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It is, but he's got enough talent that he wouldn't need to do that to... No, I think he is. I think he is.

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