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The timeline is a Blue Wire podcast. Sam? Sam, the Phoenix Suns were publicly executed today on ESPN ORG.

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How many more times? How many more times must I suffer? It's 1.30 in the morning, East Coast time.

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I don't want to shout.

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I don't want to shout too loud because I do have neighbors.

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ESPN ORG, really killing me with the start times.

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They have to start all of their games 20 minutes late and then end them 40 minutes late, obviously. The Phoenix Suns were executed again, Mike.

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One of those games, this is funny because, like, I'm looking at the box score and I'm like, why? Why open the box score for a night like this? All of this shit is fake.

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Bradley Beale, 28 points, four assists, six for 11 from deep, fake.

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Kevin Durant, 25 points, fake.

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Devon Booker, 23 points, 8 assists. It's all fake. Why am I looking at it?

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I agree.

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They made a slight, not even, they didn't even make a real comeback in the fourth quarter. The game was never within like 13 points in the fourth quarter.

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I don't know why I was even watching at that point.

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But for this exact podcast that we're doing right now, that's the only reason.

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I question not necessarily why you and I are watching. I question why a lot of other Suss PERSON fans don't turn it off at a certain point earlier in the game. I'm sure there are a lot that do. Don't get me wrong. They're, I mean, they were letting me know on Twitter, all the people who were turning it off. And I get it. So they played like a basketball team for the first six or seven minutes of this game that really felt like they were committed to a new game plan. Yeah.

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And they pushed the pace and they took a bunch of threes and they looked pretty versatile with what they were doing on the defensive end, although Minnesota ORG was making tough shots. And even though they were down for most of that quarter, you kind of felt like if they just trusted in this process that it wasn't going to be easy, but maybe the results would come. Second quarter comes, man.

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Wheels fall off.

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Well, I mean, I think you could extend it even further. After that first six minutes or whatever it was, 33 minutes without a made three.

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33, there's 48 minutes in a game. And here's there's there's forty eight minutes in a game and here's what's most

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thirty three minutes is crazy but most critically Mike you can't make a three

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if you don't fucking take any

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if you don't fucking take any

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we've been talking about this

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and now I probably woke up my neighbors we've been talking about this year after year after year, man. And supposedly the coaching staff who are all lame ducks now, I mean, they're all fucking gone. Yeah. But supposedly has been shouting at them, screaming, begging for them to take more threes.And they come out and they do it for six minutes in the first quarter. And then where does it go? It disappears.

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It disappears for two whole quarters,

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not taking any threes in the second quarter, not taking any in the third quarter. They come out and they do it again in the fourth quarter. Okay, now it's a fake comeback.

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Bradley Beale, you can have your six for 11 on the box score. It doesn't mean shit. Yeah.

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I don't even know what to say.

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In some ways, I was thinking about it during this game.

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In some ways, this son's team died, you know, watching this game. I was thinking about this. This son's team died when the NBA ORG decided to start officiating the game differently. Because, like, there's so much of the way it's officiated now that just lends itself to bigger teams, teams that have bigger players. I think you have a much bigger advantage when you could be more physical,when you can get more rebounds, when you can contest shots better because they're not calling fouls or get into the passing lanes. Of course, that's always beneficial regardless of how it's working.

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Or you bomb so many threes that it doesn't matter. And of course, I'm not, I'm not like

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disagreeing with what you're saying that. No, you're right. If you have an Embeded PERSON type player right now who can just flop around when they're 290 pounds and make other players feel that brute force that's great or if you if you've got rudy gobert on your team that works for you but the other thing is that if you can have players who can persevere and not even having to rely on the physicality necessarily but can just bomb those threes sons have neither they just have neither

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the entire team top to bottom doesn't work. And so here we are.

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They're 3-0. I'm going to watch game four on Sunday, but we all know this series is over,

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obviously. I hope they just put us out of our misery. Yeah, I would almost rather lose that. I feel

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bad for Suns fans. I feel bad for all the fans that were at the game tonight. I actually think the crowd is pretty good to start the game. And, you know, as the team lost all hope, so did the crowd. And as much as that happened, I know there were, I don't even think it's sold out. There were tickets for sale today. And it all sort of makes sense. I think it's really ironic that the team that became the most frustrating Suns ORG team to watchsince we started this podcast, and that includes a 19-win team, is the one that's available to watch for free to all Suns ORG fans. It's like this weird, like, what terrible timing for that.

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You're trying to create new Sons ORG fans and you're serving them this.

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It's really the opposite of what you want to do.

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It's, you know, if anything, it should have been one of the previous few years of this team. And I understand why Sons ORG fans don't want to drop the money on this playoff game. I completely understand that. And I still think for the most part they came through. Even the booing. Like they should do that.That's absolutely, you know, Matt Ishpia PERSON is there. He should hear that. He needs to understand how frustrating this can be for fans.

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I'm sure Matt Ishpia PERSON is a fan of, I mean, look, he's complicit in all this.

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He's complicit in all this because he assembled this monstrosity, as you pointed out online. But at the same time, he's a basketball fan. He understands that these guys are not plain and simple, no matter how much talent they have individually,

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they are not capturing the hearts of Suns ORG fans.

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And I think he's going to react to that. We're an uncharted territory with Ishbia PERSON, and now this becomes our first conversation out of what is going to be many, many, many conversations this off season. We are going to have a fun time over the next four or five months, folks, as we talk about where these guys go from here. And basically, do you retool around the so-called big three?I would say that they're not a big three. But do you retool around the so-called big three? I would say that they're not a big three. But do you retool around that core of players, maybe partially because you still believe in them, partially because they're unmovable? Or do you hit, to the extent possible, the total reset button?Understanding that, yes, you don't have the draft capital, you don't own your own picks over the next several years,

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that it might get worse before it gets better.

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But at this point, man, I know you're not going to be on board with it because I know you, I know right now, but you can't deny to me that it feels like if the suns really go out like the sorry-ass team, if they get swept. Yeah.

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It would be tempting to just hit the reset button.

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I mean, essentially it would be the third year in a row where they're getting demolished.

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And I think fans would welcome it.

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I understand why they would, yeah.

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I know there are fans who wouldn't welcome it,

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especially like if they ended up trading Devin Booker PERSON,

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if that happened.

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You know, he means so much to the franchise, I understand that.

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To the city, yeah.

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I also think, my brain is broken, man.

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It's 140 in the morning now. and just like we are in such a

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horrible pit of despair and they've done it to me year after year after year and always in the worst way possible the most the most gut-wrenching way possible yeah any what what i'm trying to say right now is that anything's on the table. I don't care anymore. I don't care. Congratulations to the Phoenix Suns ORG. You have broken me fully beyond repair.Like if you want to go into the off-season and say, you know, oh, all they need is to fire Vogel and trade Nerkich PERSON for a center who shoots threes and, you know, get a traditional point guard and everything will be fine. Well, okay, I mean, look, first of all, I'm fine with us doing all of those things. We're going to talk about all those things this summer, too. Like I said, it's going to be a busy summer. But I just, I have no love in my heart. When I look at Bradley Beale and I look at Kevin Durant PERSON, I just see failure.I just, I can't even look at these guys. I don't enjoy watching them play basketball. I don't. I don't think they make anyone better on the team. I really don't. They just make me sick.And as for Booker PERSON, I have a lot of great memories when it comes to watching Booker. So, you know, I, but I can't give him a pass with the way this playoff run is gone either. So honestly, whatever happens happens.

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I mean, he hasn't been good in the playoffs. I mean, you can just kind of full stop. Was he probably the best option with the ball in his hands in this series? Maybe. But I don't know. That's like, you know, Nurkich PERSON is the best center on the suns.It doesn't make him a great center. It's just kind of where you're at with this team. He shouldn't, I mean, he deserves some of the blame for this. And I understand where you're coming from. I think the difference between Devin Booker PERSON, and this is obvious,

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I'm stating the obvious here. The difference between Devin Booker and Bradley Beale and Kevin Durant is that Kevin Durant, 35 years old, awesome career, not getting better at this point, right? That's just where we're at with him. Bradley Beale, younger, but not getting better either.

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Now, to say that Devin Booker got better this year, no, that would be a lie. But the chances that he could be more successful in a season next year are a lot more likely than the other two guys. And I'm not saying that you immediately look at this team and say, how do we trade Bradley Beal and Kevin Durant PERSON? First of all, for both of those guys, I think it comes down to do they want to be traded? Because for Bradley Beal PERSON, he has to. And for Kevin Durant PERSON, as we've learned with him, it's kind of up to him.

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Or is up to him in the past. KD, it's entirely up to him. He wants to go back to OKC I think that's the discussion they could have.

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Brad PERSON looks pretty happy losing on the sideline. I mean...

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Well, he's gotten used to it, yeah. I guess. He has some nice sound bites, but some of the reaction shots of Brad on the side. I mean, there was one in particular coming out of the reaction shots of Brad PERSON on the side. I mean, there was one in particular coming out of the huddle where the sons are down18 and he's laughing it up with Isaiah Thomas, who shouldn't be on an NBA ORG roster, but he's there for some reason. Even Isaiah Thomas is catching shots for me tonight and he didn't even play. Like, I know it's not his fault. I don't care.

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Scorched earth policy right now.

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Brad looked pretty happy and not like a serious basketball player, but out of the big three,

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if they end up blowing it up, we know Brad PERSON's still going to be there. Yeah, unless he doesn't want to.

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I think there could be a team that wants him and that may be all it takes.

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Yeah, we'll see. Yeah. Are we going could be a team that wants him and that may be all it takes. Yeah.

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We'll see.

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Yeah.

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Are we going to... It would be better for us if that was against.

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We'll have to figure out how to do a podcast

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that is essentially trading the whole team once again,

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you know, that we've done it before.

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I don't think there's any chance the suns are just going to go.

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We're trading all three of these guys in one off season.

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Has a team ever done that?

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Um, no.

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No, that would be completely unprecedented.

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Well, how long did it take for Brooklyn ORG?

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Not in all one off season, obviously, but would it take a full year?

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So, yeah, I think we had, well, Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irvin got there first.

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And they played for, what, a season, and then they got James Hardin PERSON.

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Yeah, I'm talking about trading him away.

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A year later, right?

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And then they played a season with Ben Simmons PERSON and then another half of season

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before the rest of them were traded. Okay, okay. Yeah, it was like a year and a half between the Hardin PERSON trade and, yeah, but when all of them were gone. All right, that's fair. Yeah, but, like, unfortunately,I thought there was no way that we could be more disastrous and go up in flames in a more astonishingly terrible way than the Brooklyn Nets ORG, and yet here we are. We don't even have health.

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Well, the Nets ORG were good when they were healthy.

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That's what I'm saying.

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We can't blame it on health. It's just really that bad. So, yeah, we'll see how long it takes. I don't know. I think Ishby PERSON is a guy who's going to work quick. By the way, people talking about Fire James Jones PERSON, too.

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He's the one guy I think I have a little bit of sympathy for right now.

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Yeah, me too. And I think we talked about this on our Patreon pod that we released yesterday. Yeah, this is not to say, by the way, that he's, like, above any doubt as well. Like, he's done some things that are good and some things that are less good.

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But overall... He's made some horrible decisions in his tenure. I just don't think... Like, you can't blame the specific failure of this team to me on James Jones because it was so clearly orchestrated by Ishbia PERSON.James Jones PERSON did not want to give up McHale Bridges in the KD trade. Ishbia PERSON acquiring the team is the thing that pushed him over the edge to do so. And Ishbiyah is the guy who wanted Brad Beale PERSON. He wanted to make another sexy big splash.

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So I think the only thing James Jones is really truly responsible for was the Aiton PERSON trade for Nerkich and Grayson Allen PERSON, which I don't know, I guess to be determined on that. Some people were really mad at Yusuf Nerkich tonight, which I get, he sucked too. But to the extent of being like that was the worst trade in Sun ORG's history, that was not theworst trade in son's history.

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DeAndre Aiton PERSON would not have been the difference in this playoff series, folks, I'll tell you right now.

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No.

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How many times when the chips are down, right?

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It's not exactly the series where you need somebody like him to the team.

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You quite possibly traded one bum center for another bum center, and that's just the way it is.

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The bigger problem we have is that Devin Booker, in terms of his attitude, maybe turned into Deandre Aiden.

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Yeah, a little bit.

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A single season. That's more of a into Dianne. Yeah, a little bit. Single season.

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That's more of a problem for the size. Yeah. I agree. I honestly, I'm sorry, I'm struggling to even know where to go next with this conversation.

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No, I get it, man. It's hard because there's just, there's no hope.

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You're letting me cook. You're letting me ISO,

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You're talking about who will be on the team next year. Definitely. I think the other guy you have to mention is Grayson Allen PERSON, by the way. Who, I think, of all the players that have played on this team this year, somehow Grace and Allen PERSON might be the highest, have the highest Q rating, if you will, to use some election terms here.People really likes Grayson Allen this year. Probably happy that he's signed.

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I don't know if he's happy that he signed. Wait, the highest what? Q rating? You've never heard of that? What is that?

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In what context?

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It's like where you, it's like a thing where you turn how happy you are with somebody.

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It's like a knob that you turn during like debates and stuff like that. Oh, a cue.

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That's called a cue rating?

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Yeah, I believe so, yeah.

Speaker 31193.88s - 1195.24s

I thought you were talking about QAnon.

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I was like, dude, where is this conversation? Where is this going? No, the word Q, I assume. I've never actually seen it written out. Oh, a cue like a line. Yeah.

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Like, okay, okay. I get it. I get it. I get it. This is already off the rails. Yeah, it's way off the rails.

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All right, let's talk about. Sure.

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Yeah, he'll be on the team. Look, I like Grayson Allen PERSON. You know who else I like? Josh Okie, he came into this game for nine minutes. He fucked shit up.

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He finished his plus two. Yeah. Did he?

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Yeah, he's a plus two and in Towns

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is minus one, which is funny because their whole starting lineup is plus eight plus 21 plus 17 plus

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19 in town. By the way, just mentioned the Timberwolves ORG who have played extremely well in this

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series. Oh yeah. Yeah. And also are not like overall this incredibly unlikable team where like, like I know I don't necessarily like towns I haven't really had much of a problem with him in the series overall like all of my uh frustration and anger has been directed directly towards the sons I think Anthony Edwards is hilarious and pretty likable Mike Conley I think is one of the more likable players in the NBA Rita gober PERSON I can take her leave McDaniels PERSON I really like but uh you know it is funny, though, where there have been, like, in some ways,I think we even mentioned it before the series started, where we talked about the idea of making more enemies, because that happens in the playoffs. It doesn't feel like that at all. It's just the sons have been so outclassed and outmatched throughout this entire series. Like, it doesn't feel like any relationships are being made negatively here, right?

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You make enemies when you lose games by three, four, five points, right?

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When you have hope, you feel like you're really in it, but it was just one or two calls went the wrong way and you were robbed because of it. That's how you make enemies. Nobody makes enemies going down by 15 and 20 points consistently because you just have to admit, unless you're a complete idiot, that you're ass. You just have to admit that your ass.

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Nobody robbed you. Anthony Edwards has been sensational this series. He's actually, for a guy who we criticized his ability to manage the game and understand, like, spatially wherever it is on the floorand handle double teams and all these different defensive coverages, he has really, really impressed me with his ability to bend the Sun ORG's defense.

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Oh my God.

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And the fact that, you know, the fact that the Suns ORG can consistently throw doubles at Anthony Edwards because, let's face it, they are a one star, like maybe some people would argue for Kat PERSON,but I don't really think he's at that same level. They are a one star team where you can throw doubles at Ant PERSON, and Cat PERSON, if he gets a ball, does not have the same ability to create with the ball in his hands. He can shoot really well, but he can't create like Ant PERSON can. So the fact that Ant has managed the Sun ORG's defense with such a high degree of success, I've been incredibly impressed by his game,and I think they're going to give the Nuggets ORG a hell of a series now.

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What are the chances the Suns ORG just pack it in and just, you know, really mail in a really bad performance in Game 4 EVENT just to get it over with?

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Pretty high, right?

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Yeah, I'd say it's, I'd say it's 50-50 with this team.

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I mean, I'm already dreading.

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We don't even wait for these podcasts. We don't even get to see what the players are saying in the post game before we get to record these. But I'm sure we'd get some good content out of it right now if you want to milk a few more minutes. Just so we can hit the normal 30 minute mark so we can

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feel like people actually got their pods worth here. Yeah. But I meant to say to you, you know,

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if it makes Suns ORG fans feel any better, there's another team that's down 03 in the Western Conference in their series right now.

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Their name is the Los Angeles Lakers ORG.

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There's another potential avenue this offseason that doesn't revolve around the retool and doesn't revolve around the total tear down. Brony James, the savior of the Sons.

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Avenue 3 is Bronny James, the savior of the sons. Avenue 3 is Bronny James with the 22nd pick.

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We're going to have to make draft brawny shirts and sell them.

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Savior of the sons, Brony James. LeBron PERSON, he's coming. Do you think LeBron PERSON would even consider us with how bad we're playing right now? Like, doesn't he have to feel like he needs to feel like he'd have a chance? Does he?I think he does, yeah.

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And I think he knows at his age, he's way past the age, same with KD. They've been pretty bad. The Lakers have been pretty bad for a few years.

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I know.

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But see, with L.A. GPE, it's different because he already won one there. If he's going to go to a new team, it has to be like, I think I can win there.

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Does LeBron, K.D., book, Beal, and, I don't know, insert fifth player here. Is that championship worthy? Sure. He would love Grayson Allen PERSON. He would love Grayson Allen.

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He would like Grayson Allen PERSON.

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Honestly?

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He'd have to come here on a minimum contract.

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KD stands. Turn off the podcast now.

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Oh, are you serious?

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Are we going here?

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LeBron would, LeBron and KD's spot? That would solve a lot of the son's problems. Am I wrong? They've got, no. He drives a lot more. He would be by far the best passer on the team,

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and he makes the right basketball play like 90% of the time. You got, you got Bron PERSON tipped goggles on a little bit, I think, there. It's just,

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he was so, I mean, watch the playoffs so far and tell me who's been better.

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He's still really old. He's, he's, oh, yes, don Don't give, oh, I'm not saying they're going to win a championship.

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I just mean they'd be a lot better. Yeah. He's pretty good. They might be a little bit better.

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Devin Booker PERSON on the booze. Rightfully so, this is Kellan's whole tweet. So Booker agrees with the

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booze at the very least. How do you feel about that?

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I mean, Booker PERSON knows that like his shoe is done, bro, done and dusted.

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How many shoes do you think he's even, how many shoes do you think he's going to sell?

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Yeah.

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If they get swept.

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I don't know.

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How do you feel about the fire Vogel PERSON chance?

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I feel like it's fine.

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But I feel like it's like but I feel like it's like

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this the most milk toast thing you could chant

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right fire vocal the coach is always the first scapegoat obviously you're going to say fire the coach I said on Twitter

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call me when they say fire Booker right I don't really have to go to Dwaynes

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I have to go to Dwaynes I was checking it they don't have much yet they're still there it looks like Devin Booker might be talking right now. Not a ton of good stuff for them to even talk about, right? So it's probably going to be just really boring and I don't know. We'll see. I mean, the guy that would be kind of interesting is Frank Vogel PERSON. Like, does he just kind of throw in the towel and say, I'm trying, I'm doing my best, but these guys don't listen?

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Or what is he going to do? What is Frank PERSON going to do? You mean, does he go full Doc Rivers PERSON and just throw him under the bus and like a last-ditch effort to save his job?

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Yeah.

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I don't know. I think we might just see more dejected. Frank Vogel, remember the guy that Kellyn described after the Clippers game in the regular season. I don't know. I don't know what version of Frank PERSON we're going to see. I guess we'll find out in a few minutes.I had no idea that Josh Okie PERSON was ejected with three minutes left in this game because I turned it off. That's just me telling me being honest there and saying I turned it off. So I'm finding out from Duane ORG's feed right nowthat apparently Josh PERSON got ejected on that play.

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Yeah, he did. Yeah, they called it a flagrant penalty too. I watched the end of it just, I honestly, I watched it just in case something dramatic happened like that. That unfortunately was not very dramatic, so nothing exciting about it, but it is what it is. There's no reason to talk about adjustments for game four at this point, right? I mean, we could. What's the point?Am I wrong? What's like, do people want to hear that? You know? I don't know.

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You guys will tell us.

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You guys will tell us what you want to hear for the next few months, I guess. Mike, the son's only had nine turnovers in this game. I mean, there's a lot.

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Stats like that.

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There's a lot, I think you could say about this game

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where it's like they played pretty well

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and they got their asses kicked.

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And that's kind of where we're at right now.

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They also shot really well from the free throw line.

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Royce O'Neill still hasn't made a shot in two games, by the way.

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Dude, Royce PERSON, I don't, that's a great point that you brought up his name.

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How forgettable has Royce PERSON been that we didn't even remember that he was on the court?

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He started.

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He was horrible. He's been horrible in this series.

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He has been, not only has he been not shooting threes when he needs to shoot threes and continues to do his pump fake bullshit, even when they're down 20 points, but he's been a total non-factor defensively. Yeah. Doesn't even look like he's putting in total non-factor defensively. Yeah.

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Doesn't even look like he's putting in the same hustle plays. I mean, it's instantly obvious when a guy like Joshi Kogi PERSON checks in, and I get it. Josh Kogi might feel like he's fighting for his NBA ORG life right now, just trying to scrap in any minutes he can get. But there's an instant injection of energy into the defense that it's clear the sons want Royce O'Neill to be that guy but he's

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just he's not bringing it and so that's an interesting question too because you know if the sons are going to stay over the second apron they need to resign royce just so that maybe they can trade him down the line but there's another guy where i don't know if i want royce o'neal on this team long term

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i don't feel attached to him either it depends on the amount of money i think I think he would be fine. He's fine. He's fine. He's

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fine. He's fine. He's not a starter. And look, the sons have two starters in this game.

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One of them scored zero points to the other scored three. You know, these guys probably aren't starters on playoff teams at this point. And this is not to say that it's not there, that this game is like their fault, but, you know, it partially is, and they need to play better than that. But yeah, I mean, if you sign him, you keep him whatever. At this point, there's like larger questions to ask about the offseason and for the team. You know, Royce O'Neill, Grayson Allen PERSON obviously would have played much better in this role. Grayson Allen has been much better in the role throughout the regular season.And, unfortunately, he didn't play tonight. He would have helped a lot.

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Honestly, I'm not going to say that they would have changed any outcome of any game in this series if he didn't roll his ankle in game one. But he would have changed it a lot about this series if he was capable of playing. We talked about him as an important X factor into preview. And then, of course, he's played 10 minutes since then pretty much.

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Since you were mentioning that other starter real quick, you talked about Royce PERSON, I just want to touch.

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He's getting, Nurkis is getting absolutely punked by Go Bearman PERSON.

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He has been disgusting.

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Awful.

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I mean, I've got the updated stats here.

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I just had to add it real quick so that I could do the math.

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Seven points and seven and a half

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rebounds per game this series. Yeah. I mean, it's a joke. Bismac Bionbo PERSON could give you those numbers or better. Yeah. I mean, I asked for him halfway through the season. I still would have been happy with it. He's been terrible. He really has. And it's like, you talk about Bradley Biel PERSON as like a problem to potentially upgrade because of his no trade clause. I mean, there is a problem with Nerkitz PERSON too. If this is who he's going to be in a playoff series, then he's untradable in a lot of ways unless you attach assets to him. Like,there's a way to get too far into the offseason, but there's a way for the Sons ORG to get under the second apron by trading Kevin Durant PERSON, and then you could potentially attach assets or aggregate players together to try to make other trades to improve. There is a way to do that. You know, you'd have to trade into a team with cap space like OKC, for example, and then you can try to make moves. Like if you get five picks back from them from their 400 picks that they have, then you can try to attach picks to Nirk PERSON at yourBradley Biel PERSON or I don't know,

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whoever else you want. Honestly, man, I'd even take, like, the Sons ORG have so few assets of any type right now. You have to understand, I would even take second round picks right now. Trade Nerkich for eight second round picks. I would take it. I just want any sort of-

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Nobody would do that, though. That's what I'm saying. You don't think anyone would do that? Didn't the Bucks trade how many second-round picks for J. Crowder PERSON? Yeah, but they expected him to play on a championship team. We're talking about a guy who can, like, very clearly. That's the difference, I think. It's like the value of a player who could play on a championship team is higher.

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I'm saying there's second round picks. You have to give me this because I'm literally saying contending teams view second round picks as garbage. And I, the homeless garbage man that I am right now, I am so willing to degrade myself. I'm willing to dig through your garbage and take your second round picks, your precious second round picks and hold them up and say, this is the future of this franchise.I'm willing to hitch my future as a Phoenix Suns ORG fan to your garbage assets. That is what I'm prepared to do. Give me your garbage assets and let me run out a starting lineup of garbage. Man, I've used to said the word garbage a lot in the last

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45 seconds. And Bradley Beale, and that will be my starting five for the next couple of years. And how much worse could it get really?

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How much worse could it get?

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Yeah, maybe we are. All right. We are. Are we ending this? Who's going to listen to this one?

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We need to like real sickos.

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Some real sickos. We need to give them like a password to tweet at us if they got to this point of the text, or tweet the word garbage at us at Sam PERSON and I to let us know that you got.

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You know, we're getting that anyway.

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Should we think of something more creative? Is that what you're saying? Dude, we need to check the voicemail box because I have seen a couple of those trickle and I haven't listened to them yet since the game game ended but I can't imagine it's good.

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What usually happens at the end of the playoffs for Sam PERSON and I is when the suns are completely out, we skip the episode after that game. So if the suns lose the next game, probably, honestly, we'll take a week off. And then we come back and then honestly, the real fun begins because the off season, I still have a lot of fun in the off season. And for those, we got, I mean, I got some nice compliments, believe it or not, when I said I have to record a podcast after this.For those who say that we're a good part of this season, I appreciate you guys for saying those nice things to us.

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Nothing else, at least we have our son's family. We have our sons community. Let's all be degenerates together.

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Bottom line, misery loves company. What did we learn today, boys and girls? We learned fire Frank PERSON, fire James Jones, fire Matt Ishbia, boo the entire team, no chick filet, and draft brawny James.

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Thank you and good night.

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I'm Mark Chapman. Welcome to the Planet Premier League ORG podcast. Each week, S. Fabricas, Neda Minua and myself talk all things Premier League ORG. As a player, you don't have time to talk. You don't have time to make a plan. You just need to deal with wave after wave after wave. We watched Coach Carter PERSON and he said,oh, afterwards the game's just about doing this for your teammates. And I remember looking around halfway through the film and half the squad was asleep. Planet Premier League ORG. Listen, wherever you get your podcasts.