Episode 1164: Jon Foreman

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This is the relevant podcast. It's episode 1164.

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This is the relevant podcast. And joining me from Loverland, Virginia. It's Jesse Carey. Hello, hello. From Nashville GPE. It's our managing editor downtown

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Emily PERSON Brown. Hey, y'all. And that's it. We are recording on an unusual day because Emily has been

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sick all week and she is better now. And so we figured we'd jump in.

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But Derek and Marty will not be here today.

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They will be on next episode.

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Emily PERSON, are you feeling better? Yes.

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I feel like a human again. I was not feeling like a human for a few days there.

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She got the bird flu.

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Don't, don't.

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I'm a worse nightmare.

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I mean, it seems to be going around.

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Every time I'm online, doom scrolling, there's some other flu that we need to be concerned about.

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Now we need to be concerned about worms eating our brains like RFK.

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I didn't even know there's a thing.

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I had no idea.

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There's so many things.

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Yeah, it was, I think there's a new COVID strand too called like flirt, which I just think is funny.

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So it kind of was like, I did to take a COVID test.

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Does it give you Riz?

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Like, well, I don't have it.

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So, I mean, I need to get that ASAP.

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I need to catch me.

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I do.

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Listen, we, the three of us know better than anyone.

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Like what kind of headlines move the needle, right?

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And fear is, is the fear and like gossip are two of the things that you draw people

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into clicking more than anything else. But so there's always headlines about the next,

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you know, microplastics or super processed foods or or whatever. And I know we've had this

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conversation in a variety of ways before. I've stopped worried about any of that. I'm told that like I've known too many people and I know it's anecdotal. I know I'm going against the science before. I've just not worried about any of that. I'm told, like, I've known too many people, and I know it's anecdotal. I know I'm going against the science here. I've just known too many people. Because we're like in the Huberman era right now of like, you guys know Dr. Andrew Huberman PERSON, like Huberman Lab ORG.Emily, are you aware of Dr. Andrew Huberman PERSON? The name sounds so familiar.

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I feel like I should know this.

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So he has one of the top podcasts in the world. You probably recognize him because one of those people, if you're like scrolling long enough on shorts or reels or TikTok ORG or whatever, you'll come across one of his clips. He's got a big beard. He's a Stanford ORG neuroscientist.And he's really into like health hacks, you know?

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And he always has in like, you know, this sleep doctor or this nutritionist who is, you know,

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I just looked him up.

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He looks like one of your military guys, like Huberman Lab ORG.

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He's like super Jack PERSON. He looks like an action hero with a big beard. Yeah.

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He is. He, he, but he's a Stanford ORG neuroscientist. But he's a big deal in like the podcast world. But he's really into like the ice plunges and, you know, these sleep hacks or intermittent fasting or these weird little diets. And you hear all this stuff like life extension stuff, you know, how you got to sleep like ninehours a night and blue light and all. I don't believe any of it anymore. I just, I, because the people that I've known that have lived longest in my life have some of the, or are still kicking, you know, that are getting up there and have had almost no health problems have the worst lifestyles. I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, know of anyone. It seems like everyone who puts too much time caring about their lifestyle andhealth, it always seems like that's so, that's where it goes wrong. I think there's something about just not caring, you know, that that is, that is the way to stay healthy. So I don't click on the bird flu stories. I don't, you know, worry about, you know, the microplastics or anything. I'm just, I'm just going what I see in the

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world. I just live in. I'm just living, man. I'm, you know,

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that's,

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you could, you could spend all your time worrying about the next big thing. Are you guys, I mean, do you guys follow this at all, this logic?I get it.

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I mean, you're talking about a very hippie lifestyle, and I feel like hippies live for a very long time. So, um, it tracks with me.I mean, I feel like I have plenty of family members who have made some very questionable life decisions. And it's like they're turning 89 this year. And it's like, how have you genuinely, how have you lived this long? It's like shocking.

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I was using one of those sleep rings, like the aura sleep rings that measure your sleep, you know?

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It gave me anxiety because like, I'm going to have to look at my sleeve score in the morning.

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And I don't want to know how poorly I slept tonight. I found that one in not wearing the ring, I wasn't thinking about it. And I got a better night's sleep. And I think there's something to that when you're overthinking the health stuff.

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I think it back on. I'm looking at multiple pictures of him.

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And he's not a doctor, a medical doctor. He's a PhD WORK_OF_ART in neuroscience. And it's like,

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he looked a lot more natural and healthy 10 years ago. Now he looks, he's my age. He's a few months older than me. He looks so much older than me. But he looks like an action hero. I mean,

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granted, like he's doing a lot to like build his body and stuff, but it looks like it's aging him more. You know what I mean? Like all these, like, life hacks, like things. It's stressing his body. He looks like he's aging aggressively compared to this photo from just a few years ago. I'm just like, that's the other part of it. It's like people who are doing all this stuff to chase youth in middle age, women with Botox, whatever. It's making them look older. Like, it doesn't make you look younger or feel younger.

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It just puts more stress on your body, honestly.

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You know what I'm saying? Like, I think the people who have these, like, I eat Cheetos PRODUCT and I watch the prices right and I never get out of my recliner and then they live till they're freaking 95 years

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old, it's because they don't have any stress. They're just chilling. This guy's doing ice plunges and like his body's like shocked and it's like, he's going to die at 68. I'm not saying that, but I'm just saying.

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That's what I'm saying. That's my whole

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point. Like I think you just kind of have to, it's like the whole like dude approach to life. Like Big LaBal. I don't know when last time you guys have watched Big Lebowski WORK_OF_ART. You know what I mean? We just live in the moment.

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You know, if just chilling, you got the bath robe on, you know,

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sometimes you have an afternoon white Russian NORP as the dude does, you know, you bowl and, you know, your life really revolves around the next community league bowling tournament. There's some, those are the guys. That's the, I don't need, I don't need, I don't need, you know, Huberman and his buddy's telling me, you know, the perfect temperature of my bed and how long I should be in the ice bath for to reduce inflammation. I need the old, burned out hippies who seem to be doing just great. They seem to have the basically the same approach to life they did as like a 60 year old-old as they did when they were like 19. That's who's crack the code.

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I'm telling you, I'm not advocating for obesity or anything like that. I'm not advocating for disregarding health, normal, healthy lifestyle things. But when I watch like the Mark Wahlberg PERSON thing of like or the CEO thing gets into my TikTok a lot, like the most accomplished people get up at 3 a.m.

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And they've done more by six and you've done in your whole day. And like, I'm going, that doesn't sound fun. I don't want that day. I don't want that lifestyle. I'd like to sleep. Have you seen that guy who's like, he's like reverse aging himself?

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Like he's doing all these different things. He's like taking his son's blood and stuff. He looks terrifying.

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Yeah.

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And he's my age. He's my age. And he's like literally looks son's blood and stuff. He looks terrifying. Yeah. And he's my age.

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He's my age.

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And he's like literally looks so much older and scarier than me.

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Like it's just like this isn't doing what you think it's doing.

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You know, on the men's side and on the women's side, the hot dog lips are not making you look youthful.

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I'm sorry.

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Like, can we all just stop?

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Let's just like relax.

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Let's just eat our Cheetos PRODUCT and watch

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the prices right and have a good life. You know, like that's the kind of health podcast I want

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is someone who it's, you know, I don't need, I don't need the latest sleep scientists in here. I don't

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need, you know, the nutritionist? I want someone that's like, you know what I binge that really chilled me out was this new alien show. Man, this, you know, like,

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have you seen the new survivor?

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It's great.

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Like, their whole day is built around the new survivor tonight at 8. You know, like, that's their big plans for the day.

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All right.

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They got a big box of cheese. It's they're living large. Anyway, all right.

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Well, speaking of living large and stress-free,

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we have a great show in store for you today.

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Coming up later, we talked to John Foreman PERSON.

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That man has cracked the code.

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He surfs every morning, write songs while he's out on the water.

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It's a great conversation. He's a new album coming up, new solo project. He has a new single that released Today. We talked to him about all of that. At the end of the show, we have your feedback, the terrible dating profiles. You do not want to miss that. But stay tuned. the show, we have your feedback, the terrible dating profiles,who do not want to miss that. But stay tuned. Up next, it's Relevant Buzz ORG. You're listening to

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Okay, first thing, they are making a horror movie about Jesus PERSON' childhood. I don't know if you've heard about this. There's a film that is pulling inspiration from the story of the apocryphal gospel of Thomas PERSON.

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Um, and that focuses on the stories of Jesus PERSON's youth. Um, we explain for us non-seminary grads. So the Bible tells us the story of his birth, his early years, they hid in Egypt GPE. And then we hear about him at like, what, 12 with the synagogue thing, right? Yeah.

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And then we hear about at 29, right?

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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But the apocrytha is part of the Catholic canon, but not the Protestant NORP canon.

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Got it.

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Yes.

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And so the book of Thomas PERSON, which I've not read, is part of that.

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And it tells stories of his boyhood that the gospel is.

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Okay, got it.

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Okay.

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Yeah. So it's like stories of his life from ages the gospel's... Okay, got it. Okay. Yeah.

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So it's like stories of his life from ages like five to 12.

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Got it. There's some interesting stories in there. There's some supernatural stuff, which makes sense why this movie called The Carpenter's Son WORK_OF_ART is going to look at this childhood through a horror lens. So there's going to be some spooky elements to it. But I'll read you the film synopsis so you get a little bit of a better idea. The Carpenter's son tells the dark story of a familyhiding out in Roman Egypt GPE. The son, known only as the boy, is driven to doubt by another mysterious child and rebels against his guardian, the carpenter, revealing inherent powers and a fate beyond his comprehension.As he exercises his own power, the boy and his family become the target of horrors, natural, and divine. Okay.

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I mean, I could see that being...

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Yeah.

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I mean, it happened to him in...

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Look, here, having not read the gospel of Thomas PERSON, but this happened to him in his adulthood.

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Yeah, the wilderness.

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He's out there and talking to Satan.

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Yeah, literally confronted by Satan in the wilderness.

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We know that his childhood was probably filled with all sorts of horrors and trauma because

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his birth led to a decree that all kids of a certain age had to be murdered. So his family was on the run to try to avoid him literally being murdered. Like they were, you know, so he had a target on his back from, from Herod PERSON, who was essentially over the entire part of the empire. It's not that, you know, to me, in plausible scenario, that it was probably a pretty scary childhood.

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Is it like a legit movie, right? Like, it's got like...

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Yeah, yeah, it's a legit movie.

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Yeah, let's actually talk about the cast list real quick.

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So Young Jesus will be played by Noah Jupup, who was in The Quiet Place WORK_OF_ART. Mary PERSON, or well, sorry, she's known as the mother, but we know her as Mary. We'll be played by FK.H. Wigs. And Joseph, aka the Carpenter, will be played by none other than Nicholas Cage. Good.

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I wondered what your take would be.

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I didn't expect good. Okay.

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Here's the thing that I, we posted this on this guy. This is the thing that I can't wrap my head around, Jesse PERSON.

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Aside from just the fact that Nicholas Cage, when he's in a movie, is Nicholas Cage, right?

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I mean, so to me, it's going to be tough to suspend reality to believe that this is Joseph's the Father of Jesus PERSON.

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Number two, we know from historical and cultural accounts that back in that era, women got married young. Mary was probably around 14. Most leaders would agree. Okay. Let's say generously, Joseph was 20 when she was 14, right? So you're saying that this is about his boyhood when he's between 5 and 12 is thegospel of Thomas PERSON. So Jesus would be, let's say, eight years old. So that would put Mary at 22 years old. Nicholas Cage is 60 years old.

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I'm going to, look, I'm going to ignore all of that for a moment.

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I'm going, hi, hence, she's, this is to ignore.

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Grandfather, not father.

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I'm sorry. Okay. Again, I'm choosing to just, Hans PERSON. That's a big thing. This is to ignore. Grandfather, not father. I'm sorry. Okay. Again, I'm choosing to just ignore the problematic age difference and just say the reason

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I'm hopeful about this film. Nicholas Cage, late era Nicholas Cage has had pretty good taste. Like, okay, dream scenario, which is an A24 movie. I don't know if you guys saw that. Fantastic movie. Wait, is that the one where he played Nicholas Cage?

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No, that is the unbearable weight of massive talent.

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That was awesome. That was a brilliant movie.

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Yeah, another great movie. The dream scenario is an A-24 film where he's a college professor who everyone has the same recurring dream with him in it. And he becomes like this kind of, it's also like an analysis of like cancel culture. Really interesting movie, but really good taste. If it's 824, usually that's a same. Pig, which is really good, which is about a chef whose truffle pig gets stolen.How do you know these out of top of your head?

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I've never even heard of half these movies.

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I'm on an SMDB. There's a lot I'm filtering out. I was with you. I? I've not even heard of half these movies. I'm on as IMDB.

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There's a lot I'm filtering out.

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I was with you. I was like, yeah, I've seen these movies.

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Yeah, yeah, you've seen these, right?

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They're all like...

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Where do you see pig? Where do you see it? Like, where is that streaming? I don't remember where I watched it.

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That's what I'm saying.

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Like, I don't see these movies on browsing.

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I like, I knew it was out, so I, like, went looking for it.

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Oh, yeah.

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He says it's, he says it might be his, um, his, I knew it was out, so I like went looking for it. Oh, yeah. Um,

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he says it's,

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he says he, he might be his,

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um, his,

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his, his best film. But either way, um, uh, I'm looking where to watch.

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Not left behind. He doesn't think left behind is his best film. It's shocking. You,

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you can watch it on,

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on Hulu ORG. Uh, it's, it's on Hulu ORG right now, Pig with Nicholas Cage. But either way,he, he, he's had late career good taste. I was left behind. And so, yeah, well, that was clearly.

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Well, that's like 10, 15 years ago now. Late career.

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I'm saying, like, his prime was the 90s.

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You're saying like most recently.

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Yeah, I'm saying last like five years.

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I'm saying last like five years.

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So there was a period where he was obviously prime winning, you know, winning awards, doing National Treasure from the 90s to the mid-zero's. And then kind of fell out of favor for a while. And that's where he's just collected a couple of paychecks, the left behinds.

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2010s were not great for him.

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We'll say that. So the 2010s, Nicholas Cage Cage WORK_OF_ART is when it got real cringe, real bad, real fast. It was after the National Treasure era. I mean, we watched Left Behind WORK_OF_ART as a joke. We went to the theater and it was obvious. He showed up for two days at filming. It was like, cut me a check. I'll show up for two days, phone it in and I'm done. He did no press for it. It was great.But then he just kind of like, everybody's laughing at him. And then all of a sudden he just reemerged as these like indie films and like doing amazing stuff again. It was just like an interesting.

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Well, I think there was a profile of him from maybe a year or two ago where he basically admitted he was doing a lot of movies just for a quick check because he was actually in debt.

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And so he bought too many pyramids and castles

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and stuff. And he concedes

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that. Yeah. Yeah.

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So I think like he

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I think there was a while where he was doing a lot

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of terrible movies because he just needed money. And it seems like now he's out of that hole. So he is going back to like actually really interesting roles. And this

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is how you know it's come full circle for him. Because a lot of people don't remember, you know, he's an Academy Award WORK_OF_ART-winning best actor, right? You know, I think people who, you know, their recollection of Nick Cage PERSON is from like the face-off, con air, like action, you know, kind of where they see his peak. You know, his critical peak was years before when he was working with the Cohen PERSON brothers and doing movies like leaving Las Vegas and like, really, like movies that will go down as some of

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that.

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From that era, that was the only one.

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No, Raising Arizona WORK_OF_ART's good.

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Oh, yeah, Raising Arizona WORK_OF_ART was good.

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You're right.

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And then he did, he did a couple of David Lynch PERSON films back then too.

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That was like his one of his big one.

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Moonlight WORK_OF_ART was awesome.

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And what was the David Lynch PERSON one he did?

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That was,

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either way.

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He was working with really

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critically acclaimed directors,

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but then he went under the action thing.

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Then he had the crash.

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But this is how you noticed

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come full circle and he's back

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to like being like a darling.

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Last year or at the most recent Academy Awards

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when they did,

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they had former best actors come on

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and kind of like introduce.

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Nicholas Cage was one of the ones they chose.

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Could you imagine 10 years ago left behind Eric the Academy Award, say Nicholas Cage, come on and introduce a best actor?

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It would have never happened because people are like, Nicholas Cage.

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But now he's like, you know, our dude's back. He is, he's making weird, interesting stuff. And he's actually pretty good. So all that to say.

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Okay. All that to say, if he's 60 years old, that means he was 55 when Jesus PERSON was born, and that means a 55-year-old was marrying a 14-year-old. Listen, at a different time, I'm not defending it.

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I'm just saying, will I see the movie? Almost certainly. Almost certainly. I see the movie? Almost certainly. Almost certainly.

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I can't wrap my head around.

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I'm not defending that. I'm not defending that.

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It's so weird.

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Jesse PERSON, I get your point of like,

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he actually, he's not necessarily a bad actor.

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It's more of just like,

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my question is like,

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was there no one else available for the role

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who was age appropriate?

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Andrew Garfield PERSON.

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If you're going to go white,

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I mean,

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because it should be Jewish NORP and ethnically correct casting.

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I mean, you could, if you want to go ethnically appropriate, olive-skinned casting, you could go Oscar Isaac PERSON, maybe.

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Like, at least the age would be more believable.

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Yeah. Again, I'm not defending the political correctness or social acceptability of the decision. I'm just saying,

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Nicholas Gage made some entertaining films recently. And if I just put all my concerns in compartmentalize them and just watch it in a vacuum, I'm going to see the movie. That's all I'm saying. I'm fascinated to see how he's going to pull off playing a 35-year-old Jew as a 60-year-old white man.

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Once again, I am not speaking to the social acceptability of any part of this.

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I'm just saying.

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There's another face-off thing.

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He's just like.

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Yeah. I will say, I mean, again,-off thing. He's just like... Yeah.

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I will say, I mean, again, based on the premise,

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it seems like they are not necessarily

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fully sticking to the text,

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that they are taking a few creative liberties.

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Well, yeah, because didn't you say that it's a Jesus

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and they were hiding in Egypt, but he's like 10?

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Yeah.

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I mean, it's like, they weren't hiding in Egypt when he was 10.

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I mean, that was like a two-year period

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when he was a toddler,

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you know, so. Yeah. So, yeah, they're making things interesting,I guess.

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Again, again, I'm seeing it. By the way, I've been thinking about the movie face off a lot lately.

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Why? You know how they're doing a lot of remakes, you know, like, you know, there's,there's like a new roadhouse or even like fall guy is like a remake of like an 80s show or, you know, there's just, why isn't anyone touched face off?

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Because it's an unassailable premise that the good guy and bad guy switch faces. And you have an actor essentially having to play two roles. Half the movie Nicholas Cage is playing the good guy. Half the movie is playing the bad guy with another guy's face. It's such a good premise. I mean, even just talking about it makes me excited.Like, it's probably his most impressive role because, like you said, he had to play two characters with different faces.

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That's no more impressive than Lindsay Lohan playing Freaky Friday Twins PERSON. Wow.

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Such a great example. Thank you, Cameron PERSON.

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And you know what?

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That's a great movie, too. Oh, Such a great example. Thank you, Cameron. And you know what? That's a great movie too. It is. Maybe we can have Lindsay Lohan remake face off. By the way, it's not Freaky Friday PERSON. It's the,

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it's the, what's the, Parent Trapp. Yeah. And I bet I'm going to go, Cameron, what is your guess on Rotten Tomatoes WORK_OF_ART for

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Parent Traff? Oh, I have no clue because it was pre-Rotent Tomatoes.

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So anybody...

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100%.

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Yeah, it would be...

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Oh, there were reviews.

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They retroactively aggregated reviews of all these.

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Oh, wow.

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I have no clue.

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So 87%.

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It's a great movie.

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So that's a compliment to Face Off, by the way.

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Parentrap ORG, you're welcome.

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Parentrap was 87% or Face Off?

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Oh, I don't know if Face Off PRODUCT is.

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Parenthrap was 87%.

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Let's look at Face Off PRODUCT.

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93% Rotten Tomatoes.

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For Face Off PRODUCT?

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93% on Rotten Tomatoes.

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A higher score than Parentrap?

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I'm telling you.

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I'm telling you. Have you watched Face Off PRODUCT recently?

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No. I actually haven't watched Face Off PRODUCT ever. But I want telling you. I'm telling you. Have you watched Face Off recently? No. I actually haven't watched Face Off ever, but I want to.

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It's just so funny because I know the premise of it.

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And I think I need to like build up accepting that because like the idea of it seems so odd to me.

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I get Face Off and Con Air mixed up and they came out in the same year.

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Both that came out in 97.

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That was a big year for Nicholas Cage.

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What a heat check, man. What a heat check. Like, because Con Air, man, Conair had John Malkovich, Steve Busimi, and Dave, Dave Chappelle PERSON were in it. And they all got upstage by Nick Cage PERSON. Think about that. What a heat check year that guy had.

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And John Cusack PERSON. Nicholas Cage, John Cusack, and Malcovic PERSON. Yeah.

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That's what I'm saying. It was heat check, man. That's crazy.

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They both came out that summer. That's like when I was watching that Spielberg PERSON documentary, Schindler's List and Jurassic Park came out the same year. Like, he did both films.

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Hands on. They were both his films. Like, how did he do that? Like, they were both his films. Like, how did he do that?

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Like, they were both his babies. It's not like he just, like, produced it. Like, he was like, he created these worlds. Crazy.

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Yeah, I know. It's, it's, yeah. Anyway, anyway, we could just do a hold Nicholas Cage.

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Nicholas Cage, a 60-year-old white man, will be playing the Hebrew father of a young Jesus PERSON.

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So, can't wait to see that.

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All right.

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What does you have, Emily PERSON?

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Yeah, there's a really interesting new study that came out I want to talk about.

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So Gen Z is apparently totally fine with AI influencers. There's a new report that found that Jinzi is actually more open to brands who use AI influencers rather than humans to show off their products. And that's really surprising.

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AI meaning like when they do an Instagram post or video, it's an AI humanoid talking, not a real human.

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Like, wait, hold on.

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So Gen Z is open to being influenced by computer-generated influencers.

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Yes.

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Yeah, they are totally fine with it.

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And I get your shock because I was surprised at this too, because there's been so many studies over the years that say Gen Z really cares about authenticity and they want something like real and genuine. But according to this report, only 35% of Gen Z consumers said that authenticity is like the most important trait. What they really care about is popularity because 47% said they are more interested in someone's follower account than like who's actually influencing them.

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So an account of 2 million followers with an AI beauty influencer telling you about a new product is more appealing to Gen Z than an authentic user person of that product who has 20,000 followers telling you this is great. That is crazy to me.

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Is there a reason why I'm sure you could kind of break down the speculation of what is it about the dynamics of, you know, kind of social science that would leave Gen Z to be more comfortable with an artificially, you know,generated experience than a human one. Our take was,

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my read is that it's just popularity. They just want to like what's popular. And if it's got big numbers, then I like it too. So it's group think, kind of.

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I think it is that. Like, I think the report didn't go into it, but just kind of what I've seen. I do think it is a, yeah, like a group think thing. Like, oh, everyone else likes this and I want to be a part of what, you know, culture says is cool. So I don't really care who's leading it. I just want to be part of it.

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Think about that. You just said everybody else likes this. So that's the thing. They're not looking at what we like. They're like, oh, but the crowd, millions of people like this. So I like it too.

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That's interesting. That does seem like somewhat generationally unique, you know, because I feel like prior generations, there was an aversion to what's popular.

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Like, if it's popular, it's uncool. If it's popular, I don't trust it.

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Like, if it's popular, that means they sold out. That means they're not credible.

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I'd rather like someone that, you know, has a small following and is more, you know, hasn't done things to appeal to the masses of trades to themselves. I don't, again, there's probably tons of research that people have done of what kind of, you know, move the needle on that. I do wonder how like, this is just me speculating, but like how a generation that grew up with public view counts, like anything I can go to, I see how many likes something has,

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I see how many views a YouTube video has, you know, I didn't grow up like that. You know what I mean? Like when we went to, like I said, there was an aversion to what was on like the Billboard top 100. We're like, well, that can't be cool because everyone likes it. But now it's like success is measured not necessarily in artistic merit, but by how many views and what the engagement metrics are, you know?

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I mean, I'll say, like, personally, like, I've, I'll be, like, scrolling on TikTok ORG, and sometimes I'll see a video. And if it seems like it's like a long story, I might, I might scroll past it. But if I see it has, like, 350,000 views or sorry, 350,000 likes, there's something in me that's like, oh, this was actually, maybe this is interesting

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enough to, like, stick around and watch the full video. Yeah, like a fomo thing. Versus, like, if there was the same video, but it only had, like, two likes, it's like, oh, well, this clearly isn't popular, not worth my time. Like, I find myself doing that. And so I think I'm, you know, cuspur, so I'm, like, on the edge of that.But, I mean, it impacts my own, like, social media use. So I absolutely think that's how Gen Z views it.

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Yeah. And I'm not saying that's any better or worse.

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I'm not trying to be like yelling at a cloud here. I'm just saying like, you know what I mean?

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Like, again, I see the flaws in not liking something solely on the merits because a lot of people like it. Like, that's no way to view the world either. That's not a credible way to measure, you know, what's good and what's bad. But I do think in this particular case that, you know, liking it for the sake of popularity seems to be indicative of just a different way of viewing the world, you know.

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Interesting.

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All right. Well, moving on to the last thing. I know we've talked about it a lot way of viewing the world, you know. Interesting. All right.

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Well, moving on to the last thing. I know we've talked about it a lot, but we finally have some new details about the office spin-off because it's officially been picked up by Peacock ORG. And we have a plot that actually makes me really excited. I know we had speculated on maybe something at the DMV ORG or at a local church, which hopefully one day that will still happen.But for now, it looks like the documentary crew is going to be following a dying, historic Midwestern NORP newspaper and the publisher trying to revive it with volunteer reporters.

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The volunteer reporters thing is what I think the comedy is.

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Because when we were talking about the DMV ORG idea, it was because you have a set cast,

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but you have all the public characters coming

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through. And so, like, that brings the episode by episode fresh comedy. And so the volunteer

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reporters is interesting because you could be bringing in new fresh volunteer reporters.

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This is, it's brilliant because it's another dying industry, you know, gasping for its last

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breath of life, like the paper industry in the 2000s. Yeah, because, yeah, because like the risk of doing something like the DMV ORG is you just remake parks and wreck.

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Like some public institution where the mundity is baked into, it's just largeness as an institution, where, you know, the paper company or a newspaper, there's the, like, the low hung, ever-present anxiety of not existing anymore is part of

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the show.

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Right, right.

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The layoffs, the threat of layoffs, the consolidation of offices was a major plot line,

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which would be the same case with a traditional small-town newspaper on its last legs, you know?

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Yeah.

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Because it served as like a metaphor for, you know, like the office culture was like,

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this is sort of a dying way of life, you know, and is this a life worth me investing

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myself in?

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And if not, where do I find purpose?

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It's in the relationships adjacent to it.

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Or the comedy is we're all sharing the same piece of carpet

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just trying to get through the day, even though we know we might not be around in a year.

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That's a unique, that's, yeah, to your point, camera, I think that's why it works as well as old paper companies. It's brilliant.

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Yeah, I never really thought about, like, the difference between Parks and Rec and the office, but it really is, like, the office had a moving plot line where, like, you said, like, it was trying to transition to like a digital era and that was a really big issue parks and rec ORG it was like the parks and rec department is just a right it's like it was more the characters had to bring

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kind of the unique situations um so yeah i'm excited for this i think it's going to be great i mean obviously also being in the media, that seems like extra exciting to me. So I'm curious to see how well or how accurate they get it. But

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NPR ORG mentioned this. I was in the car this morning. And NPR mentioned this as a blur in and Steve

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in Ski PRODUCT, or yeah, he was like, you know, nothing's more exciting than seeing a show about journalists. You know, like he was like, all the nerds are excited about this one.

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So, anyway, yeah, it's good.

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When's it coming out? When's it happening?

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It's currently still in production, so there's nothing announced yet. But, I mean, if they're working on it now, we can see it as early as this fall. So I'm ready for it.

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I'm excited for it, but it all comes down to how good are the characters.

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Because at the end of the day, like, you can only, the office, you know, office space showed,

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this is about as far as we can take it. Like, because before the officer was office space, which explored the same thing with Mundady PERSON. But what propelled the office was the characters. Like, at some point, just the idea of it only goes so far. So, yeah, we'll see. I'm hopeful, though.

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Especially since it's the same brain trust as the office. Yeah, Greg Daniels PERSON. Yeah. Great

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Daniels. But if you remember, Greg Daniels was trying to spin off the Dwight Farm Show EVENT and he's done some other stuff that just didn't quite have the secret sauce, you know, the magic.

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Is Michael Shore PERSON involved with this? You might have already said that. I apologize. I don't recall.

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I haven't seen his name.

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Yeah.

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I think that's what I was saying. It's like the brain trust isn't quite the same. So it was like the office magic was it Greg Daniels or was it Michael? You know, like, who knows? Because remember, it's Greg Daniels and then the one of the other co-creators is the co-creator Nathan PERSON for you. Oh, that's right.

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Yeah.

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So it'll be, I think it will be a different humor.

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Yeah.

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That's good.

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But it's so, I mean, I love that humor, but it will be different.

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Well, that's good.

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Because you can't go back.

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You can't recreate the office.

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So like having something fresh.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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Well, for more stories like that, check out Relevantmagin.com ORG. Every weekday, we're covering the intersection of faith culture and everything in between. Thanks, Emily PERSON. All right. Stay tuned. Coming up, it's John Foreman. She's not ready for.com every weekday. We're covering the intersection of faith culture and everything in between. Thanks, Emily PERSON. All right, stay tuned.Coming up, it's John Foreman PERSON.

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She's not ready for the head to get colder. She's so used to living on the beach down and floored. Want to take it to the mountains. We can take my friends to yonder. But the heat don't work so when the egg gets colder. I can hold it up.I can hold it up.

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You're listening to as Iris, the song is my friends Toyota ORG. Well, today's show is brought to you in part by Crown College ORG, a boldly Christian NORP and academically excellent college providing a lifelong, authentic community. Crown ORG offers on campus, online, and graduate programs, 18 NCAA Division III ORG sports, international service opportunities,and a vibrant student life. Discover why Crown College ORG is ranked top three in America for online Christian NORP education. Visit crown.edu. Today's show is brought to you in part by the after party. Christians NORP have been so consumed by fighting about what political party or candidate is the most Christian that we've drifted away from some pretty clear commands from Jesus PERSON like,love your neighbor and show mercy and offer forgiveness. The free video course from the After After Party can help reframe your thinking around politics and light of Jesus PERSON's commands. Start the first session today and move towards better Christian politics for 2024 and beyond. Visit after hyphen party.org for more information. Again, that's after hyphen party.org. Our guest today is John Foreman. You know him as a lead singer of Switzerland GPE, but he's also, over the years, put out solo albums.And in fact, he has a new one coming out. It's called In Bloom. It's coming out in a couple weeks. But today, he releases a new single called Eulogy WORK_OF_ART. We caught up with him to talk about the new project and how he's embracing change in a healthy way.Here's part of Emily's conversation with John Foreman PERSON.

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Every day I do, when did you're going month. It's a solo project, not part of Switchfoot ORG.

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I'd love to know.

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When did you begin working on this album?

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It's funny. I was trying to make a different album. And this is the album that came to me. So I was, I recorded last year, or a couple years ago, departures. And I was hoping to record arrivals. That seems like the logical next step. And so I was chipping away this album. And I was, it felt like I was forcing a square peg into a roundhole. And these, um, these other songs came to me, almost annoyingly so, where they were bright and airy and full of this fertile new soil that didn't represent the record I was attempting to make. And my brother and James McAllister PERSON, who helped me produce the record, both kind of, you know, help me lift my head up and say, you know what, I think you have an album here. I know it's not the album that you were hoping to make, but I think you have made a really great record. I think you should put it out. So that's what friends are for. Tim and James kind of talking sense to me. But yeah,so I feel like this record represents a fertile blooming season in my life, putting to rest a lot of things that felt a little bit like the wrong kind of fertilizer, the stuff that needs to be put into the ground and given away. And so, yeah, it feels like it feels like it's coming out of the perfect time. So I'm very excited for, yeah, spring and summer. What was going on in your life while you were working on this project?

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So I've been working on it chipping away for the past couple years.

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I mean, you know, I think I'm not the only person that since 2020 is wrestling with loss and trying to figure out what to do with these things in my life that feel like they keep me up at night. And so against the backdrop of all of that, I think the garden has this amazing metaphor for me to find myself in. The idea that tomorrow's fruit is born from yesterday's crap, you know, the stuff that, that hurts us, haunts us,the dead parts of ourselves that we let go and allow to fertilize the future, you know.

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So that's essentially what this record feels like to me. It is certainly a letting go, you know, even just letting go of arrivals and saying,

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okay, I'm going to let that go. It's dumb, but it was a big deal for me. You know, and I think that that is, that's the season I'm in right now, saying yes to things that might feel uncomfortable and, and stepping into what that looks like. You know, I think, yeah, in Bloom PERSON, there's so many lines in there that feel likepoignant. Yesterday's tomb, tomorrow's womb. I feel like that sums up this season for me.

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I'm a desert and blue. I'm a desert and blue. The wind is torn, the world's at war, but the butterflies and me keep death to fire. That all sounds very introspective. Are you hoping it encourages others to sort of reflect on their own life in a same way?

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I'm hoping, like I said before, I'm hoping that this can be the soundtrack for a new journey for someone.

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even I propose a toast, you know, singing about, you know, it's singing about both the beautiful and the painful, you know, the bridges I'm still burning. Here's to all the mistakes we've made, you know, like that kind of language, I think, embraces an ability to move forward. And that's what I'm hoping for this album is that this, this, this would be a soundtrack for people that, um, that are looking for freedom and looking for new, new ways to interface with themselves in the world. I am at the phase in my life.My friend did the math and said that at the end of, when this record comes out, or maybe even now, that I will have written and released 300 plus songs. And that's just one of those things where when he said it, I was, at first I was like, that's not true. And then he did the math and I was, I was like, that's a lot of songs. And I'm at the place in life where I'm realizing that who I was when I was 18 or 28 or 32 or 12 or whatever, those parts of myself, they're still there, but I'm moving forward.I want to be able to continue to grow, continue to learn the Bob Dylan line that is referenced at the very beginning of In Bloom comes to mind. Dylan PERSON on that speaker warning, he not busy being born is dying. And I want to be about the business of being born. And that is what I hope that this is a soundtrack for new life and people that are in the business of being busy, being born.

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here's to love and here's to life here's to fight and it does seem like you're talking a lot about

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just the changes we go through and life and all these different seasons I'd love to know are you someone who likes change and have you kind of always been that way?

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I'm usually the guy who's looking forward to things. I have a fairly, I'm a ruthless idealist that's always expecting the best to happen. When I let myself down or I let other people down or when someone lets me down, it can be a shock, you know. What, you're human?Are you kidding me? How could you let this happen? You know, so I think this record kind of wrestles with that. The next song that we're releasing is called Eulogy WORK_OF_ART. And the chorus says, every day I write the eulogy for everything I used to be. I'm still aiming for a better me.I'm the mosaic of a shattered man, broken and becoming who I am. So I think that encompasses this idea that I'm eulogizing the past versions of myself. You know, thankful for where I've been, but looking forward to the future with expectations. I am the broken, shattered mosaic of a man that is yet becoming, yet unfolding, forgiving and being forgiven. You know, I think that many times faith is said in these terms of I was, but now I am with finality. And there's a beauty to that. And yet, we as, you know, for me, humans,if we think that we have arrived, that is a, as if we'll be very let down by ourselves and by others, you know.

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That was John Foreman PERSON.

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Make sure to keep your eye out for his upcoming project in Bloom and go check out his new single Ulogy PRODUCT wherever you get your music.

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All right, stay tuned up next. It's your feedback. If you're listening to night

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If you're listening to Nightbeds, this song is Shiloh, James River ORG version. Hey, if you like this podcast, but you might like it better if there were no ads, you can do that. Head over to Relevantmagine.com and sign it for Relevant Plus ORG. For just a couple bucks a month, you get this podcast ad-free. You get ad-free unlimited reading at Relevantmagizing.com, including the full podcastand magazine archives. Our beautifully designed digital issue and a little more. Check out all the info right there on the Relevant Plus tab at Relevantmagstein.com. All right, it's time for your feedback. Last week, poor Emily PERSON, we got talking about really painful hinge prompts. It started because Emily was telling us about cringe-worthy hinge prompts that she comes across regularly. And we're like, that's not true. That's not real. We need proof. And so she shared theproof. No, this is just your experience. She's like, absolutely not. So we asked y'all for your worst hinge prompts that you've come across in the wild. You did not disappoint. There's a lot of really bad hinge bio things out there. Now, if you all don't know, if you didn't hear last week, so we did a whole game about it. Basically, Tinder, you write a little bio, and some of the other ones, you were a little bio,but apparently with Hinge ORG, you're asked questions,

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and you pick three of the questions that you want to answer, so we won't get to know you. So anyway, so you guys sent in not only those, but you also sent in really cringe-worthy bios you came across in the wild. Here's a few of our favorites.

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And again, with the prompts, I have to stress, the people picked these prompts. Like, they were not forced to answer these ones. They picked this.

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Well, this one isn't a problem, but this shows the flaw of the whole exercise. Kaylee said, I deleted the apps after swiping no on three mullets in a row. I'd rather be single than be seen with a mullet. Kaylee PERSON, it's your problem. The mullet's back.

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And the universe is trying to tell you, you just got to go with it, because I'm sorry. Hold on. The mullet had a little moment. Do you remember? I don't know if you watch Bravo ORG shows, but there's a show called Summerhouse and Kyle is on Summerhouse. Anyway, he ironically got a years ago, and that became his thing, right? So they just had the summer house reunion. I watch a lot of Bravo ORG. And as a gesture of him finally growing up and ending the mullet era, they cut his mullet off. I think the mullet's era is ending. And I think like it went from ironic hipsters doing mullet to like dude bros doing mullets. And that's where, and now it's Montana GPE boys doing mullets.

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And like every hair's, yeah.

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Just like every hairstyle, it does not work for every man.

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True.

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Like that, I think that's important to think about.

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And the guys that can pull it off are the frat bros that nobody likes. So like nobody likes the mullet.

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But my thing with Kaylee PERSON is like, look, it's a dating app, okay? Like, if you see three haircuts in a row, like if there was an equivalent of a female haircut, I wouldn't just discount the entire experience because one is at the, you know, if I've, the bell curve of its trend is on the downslope. I'm not being like, oh, I'm giving up on the institution of dating.

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Three Rachel PERSON cuts in a row. This is a trash.

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Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's like, look, you're like six months out of date. Like, it's not that big a deal.

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Anyway, one girl, Mary PERSON said she came across a guy's profile who had a picture of him looking into a casket.

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Again, I don't understand modern dating because that sounds like a very interesting person I would like to have a conversation.

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I want to know, like, who took the picture of him? Absolutely not.

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Who took the picture of him looking into the casket don't know. Who took the picture of him

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looking into the casket?

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And then what went through his mind

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that was like, yeah,

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this is what women want to see is me looking death in the face.

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But you're ignoring the biggest question of all is who's in there.

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That's also a good.

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Something that Marty PERSON has

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started doing in our group chat.

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Like,

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like,

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like,

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it's not the photo per se.

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It's picture yourself in that moment wanting to take this photo and taking this photo.

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So, like, in our group chat, he'll start sending over, like,

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he sends over a lot of, like, TikTok posts and stuff from Christian NORP rappers that's, like, super cringe.

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And he's like, imagine you're on that busy street and you're sitting there filming, you know, the influencers in the wild thing.

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It's like these people in real life look ridiculous taking this photo.

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I'm thinking about the guy at the casket. Hey, can you take my picture real quick? And he's like choosing. And then he loved how the photo looked and he put in his dating app.

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The thought process that went into this is just hilarious to me. And again, you get like five options to choose from. Of all the photos you've ever had taken in your life, that was one of the top five pictures.

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Yikes.

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Again, it seems like an interesting person.

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Say, it's not going to be a boring dinner. I'll tell you that.

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You're right. Sure, sure.

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Grant said one girl told me, so I guess this is in the messaging phase. One girl told me she would order a plate of crack for the table. It was an automatic no for me. What? Beth says this was a guy's bio.

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I'm a metalhead. I don't normally speak. Comfort zone is one heck of a drug. I like video games,

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believe in the paranormal. Goth girls are totally epic. Again, I don't see why people are complaining. He's

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being honest with you. He's like, I know what I like. This is who I am. If you like that, swipe the correct direction.

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You should probably know these. These are critical things to know about. I feel like if you found out,

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it's like if you found out any of these things after the fact, you'd probably be pretty upset.

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I'm just going to lay out the main things I think you're probably going to want to know.

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I feel like I really hope that this metalhead guy is friends with

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the casket guy, because I do think that that could be a fun friendship for the two of them.

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You see, Matthews PERSON, he said, I often think about the girl who under, let's make sure we're on the same page about, I guess that's one of the problem. Let's make sure we're on the same page about.

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She put, quote, religion, children, and politics, I guess, although I'm not strict about this. She clearly needed to figure out her priorities, he says. But that's amazing. We need to make sure we run the same page about. And she said, religion, children, and politics, I guess, although I'm not strict about this. Then why'd you pick that?Why'd you pick that answer?

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Oh, my gosh.

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That's hilarious to me.

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Yeah, but I just like she's laying it out, man.

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She's letting you know, nothing really matters that much to me.

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She's like, actually, on second thought, we don't have to be on the same age.

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If you have a good mullet, let me know, because that's really all that matters.

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She's like, these are the most important things in the world, but honestly, I don't even really care that much about them.

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So that should tell you something about how chill of a hang I am.

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You're really reading into this, Jesse PERSON.

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I'm not going to read that Tinder one.

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Holy cow. Anyway, all right, well not going to read that Tinder one. Holy cow.

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Anyway, all right, well, there's more that came from.

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Okay, now it's time for this week's.

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Editorial question of the week.

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Well, earlier in the show, we were talking about, like, I don't know how we got off

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on that neuroscientist guy who has, he looks way older than he is. But, like, he's super healthy, quote, unquote. We got to talk about health hacks that society has pushed on us. I'm looking at you ice plungers. I think didn't we just see a report last week that the ice baths have no health benefits? So, anyway, lots of health hacks are out there.There's the beauty health hacks with the scrubs and the facials and the Botox injections and all the things. And then there's the ice baths and the intermittent fastings and the sleep X number of hours and get up at two and do all these things. Hacks all over the place. We want to know this week, what's a health hack that you've tried? The weirdest health hack that you've tried. That's what we want to know. We will read our favorites on next week's show. If you want to tell us what came of it, if you want to tell us your experience, we would love all those details as well. But tell us some health hack that

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you've tried over the years. I feel like I'm sure I'll have to think about this more. The first thing that comes to mind, though, is I love a good face mask. Although I can't think of a single time I've done a face mask and like wiped it off my face and thought, okay, I'm much better now. Like I actually don't think face masks work. They're more of just like feel fun for a girl's night, very early 2000s vibe. But I will still continue to buy them.

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If you want to see weird ones, like watch like those Bravo L.A. shows like Vanderpump Rules and the Valley, they go down to like these weird like light spas.

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And it's like literally they lay down and they have like light on their face for, you know, or whatever. It's just like, well,

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there's actually health benefits over.

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Oh, yeah, yeah.

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But I mean, like, there's all these like trendy of the moment.

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They're here one year and that spa has gone the next year. That kind of thing, you know what I mean?

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It's really fun. Anyway, hit us up at Relevant Podcast on ORG X, or you can reply to our Instagram story as well. And we will read our favorites on next week's show.

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Well, before we wrap things up, I want to thank John Foreman for joining us today. Make sure to check out his upcoming solo projects called In Bloom. It'll be out in a couple weeks. And check out his brand new single Eulogy, which released today, wherever you get your music. All right, onthat note, we'll wrap things up. I'm Cameron String. I'm Jesse Carey. I'm Emily Brown PERSON. We will see you on Tuesday. Have a great weekend, everyone. Thanks for listening to the Relevant ORG podcast.

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