The Alien Highway Part 5

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Hello fellow UFO heads. Great to be with you once again on the paranormal report. Don't forget to click on those worthwhile links in the description. Camila PERSON is an airhead. So today I thought would start the conversation discussing how UFO crash retrieval is the ultimate holy grail of UFO research. Why do we call it the ultimate holy grail? Because really the crash retrieval is what we are looking for. And the crash retrieval includes the bodies, debris and the craft itself. It's the physical evidence that we're really looking for to move this field forward.Couple of quick announcements here. The content of each case highlighted in this presentation has remained intact for the description. Of the original source. Number two, the identity of first-hand sources will be protected per Leonard ORG string fields. Original agreement with his military contacts. The visual aids used in this presentation are computer-generated forensic composite.Illustrations and sketches which originated from the specific details provided by Leonard ORG. Sources And these are the sources that I used to put this together. Three-star US Air Force Generals, U.S. Air Force Fighter ORG pilots, astronauts, commercial. Pilots, air traffic controllers, neurosurgeons, pathologists, theoretical physicists and mathematicians. US Army officers, US Navy officers, military police, high-level Pentagon ORG officials, top. Military brass, scientists and engineers who worked at Wright, Patterson Air Force Base FAC,and other government facilities. So in other words, these are the caliber of witnesses that you want on your team. These are the kind of people that you want on your team. These are the kind of people that you want to have interviewed here. Couple of quick quotes. Number one, UFO crash retrieval can't be real because if they were, I would have read about. It's in the local newspaper. That's the first one. You know, there are not now, nor ever have been, any extraterrestrialvisitors or equipment. On right, Patterson Air Force Base FAC. This is their own statement. Official US Air Force Press released July 1980. So I'm going to come back. Oh, yeah, we'll see about that.Let's see if we can get these guys. Let's see if we can present the evidence here. I want to introduce to you our good friend UFO crash retrieval expert Leonard Strinkfield PERSON. He's no longer with us. But he is the gentleman that pioneered the trail of UFO crash retrieval. He coined the term UFO crash retrieval.He was born in 1920. He grew up in Cincinnati, Ohio. By the time he graduated from high school in 1939, he had already memorized the entire Dictionary, another person you want on our team here. He joined the military as soon as he heard about the attack on Pearl Harbor on December. 7.1941. After the war, he was employed by a chemical company in Ohio and retired after 30 years. Leonard wrote two books inside Sorsa Post 3 to 0. That was in 1957.Situation ORG read the UFO siege. That was in 1977. And what we want to focus in on is this bullet item here. His lecture on UFO crash retrieval at the 1978 Mufan Symposium in Dayton, Ohio Causton GPE. International Sensation. That's because this whole term about UFO crash retrieval was relatively a new concept pack.Then, now that we're so many years later, we're going to see if we can present an uneven. Stronger case here. He passed away in 1994 and left us the legacy here. This is from Cincinnati Inquirer, July 19, 1993. Author continues quest for truth about you were foes. What I've collected has staggering implications for mankind. This would be the biggest thing since Christ PERSON really. So that's kind of what we're dealing with here. Now UFO crash retrieval is the complete investigation status reports, all of his status reports.This is a very interesting book because this is the Rosetta Stone for the crash retrieval. Cases. However, I want to highlight that there are two problems with this book. For one, it's devoid of any drawings, illustrations, graphs, it's almost all text. And the other problem is Per Leonard ORG's original agreement, the names of the witnesses had. To be protected. And it's understandable. So it's up to us to maintain an important part of our national history. So here's the thing. Looking at all the crash retrieval cases within his dictationnotes at Lunkin Airport and Cincinnati and then within their status reports, I counted 119 cases. So if you went to Vegas and you had a roulette wheel and 120 spaces on it, and you put down 119 bets, you're going to win almost every time. So it's 119 odds in our favour. It's our favour. And all we need is one of these cases to be authenticated and true. And the whole concept of UFO crash retrieval is not existing completely falls apart. So the numbers are really with us here.I want to make a quick other announcement is that everything presented here and more. Witnesses will also be presented in Washington, D.C., June 10th through the 12th, and then. On the 12th at the National Press Club with Dr. Stephen Greer PERSON. I want to give credit to my good friend Rudy Gurdaya who did the drawings for this to make. These cases come alive. So first case here. It's 1942. This is long before Roswell GPE. This is a crash retrieval case somewhere north of Georgia. Not even Leonard ORG knew where this case was.Somewhere north of Georgia. This craft was about 15 feet in diameter, about 10 feet high. It had come down and hit the roof of the army facility where it wasn't perhaps still there. Today? There was a whole breach on the side of the craft. This craft was divided into three sections.The upper section had this interesting display panel that had button switches, dials, and levers on it. The second section had a number of bar stools that were sitting in back of a wraparound. Window. Third section on the bottom had an interesting integrated trap door, and those were the three. Sections. Now there were bodies recovered, full crew members.They were taken alive. They were about five feet tall, large black eyes, and we see this motif repeated again. And again. Large head, slit for a mouth, minute nose, oversized eyes. It's something that we see over and over again. So the reference for this is page 319 from the Crusher tribal book by Leonard Stringfield PERSON.Right Field Dayton, Ohio GPE. It had not become right patterns in Air Force Base yet. It was still right field Dayton, Ohio GPE. The source was a private who worked in records management. This is page 59 by Clark McClellan PERSON. This is the cover of the book so you can reference where this came from. What this witness described was a 15-foot diameter dish-shaped craft. It was aboutseven feet tall. It had about an 18-inch flat section wrapped around the outer circumference and then these rectangular-type windows that were also wrapped around. It had arrived in 1946 by a flat car from Arkansas all the way to Reichfield, Dayton, Ohio GPE. So we took this original sketch by The Witness and I went ahead and did a Solar Works ORG model. And an auto-CAD rendering showing you what this thing looked like. Now there were no rivets. There were no seams. There were noflat head fasteners. This thing was devoid of any flight controls. There was an 18 inch, basically a central column that went from the center of the bottom of the craft all the way up. And if you look here, I've got this little red dot on the window that you can see here. This is the attempted point of entry where they were trying to use diamond tip drill bits. To breach the hull of this craft and that's something that comes up again in these cases. Where they are desperately trying to breach the hull of these craft using diamond tip.Drill bits. They use acetylene torches. They use lasers and in some cases they take the entire craft. They dip it in a vat of liquid nitrogen and try to get in that way. So you can see they are desperately trying to get into these craft. Here's the first color rendering that we did.This is by Joseph Rath PERSON. Got to give him credit just to give you an idea of what this craft actually looks like. This is again before Roswell GPE. This was one of the first Solid Works ORG rendering. And then as the story develops here, so this private went to Reichfield date in Ohio GPE. He was met by his friend who was a guard at the base at the time.And this guard said, Hey, I want to show you something. So he brought him to the far end and there was this craft sitting on the ground on the pavement of the hangar. And in the front of it, there was a toolbox and there was an electric drill with a diamond. Tip drill, but he got there just in time to see this. After about 20 minutes, they both got nervous and left the facility. And that's from the primaryeyewitness. And this is our final rendering to give you an idea of what this may have looked like. If you were there at the time. And we'll move on here. Wright Field Date in Ohio, 1946. This is by a man named Tex Barton PERSON. He was six years old at the time. And the reference for this is page 242 to page 243. Now his father was an electrical engineering working at Wright Field Date in Ohio GPE.And he brought his son that day to the Har complex, which I believe was Hanger Complex FAC. Number 4 at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base FAC. There is an adjoining cafeteria to this hangar complex. And this little boy, he was six years old at the time, he was speaking to a janitor right. By the doorway of where this leads into the hangar. And this janitor asked this boy if he'd like a soda.And he went over to his father in NES if he could have a soda from this man. The father agreed to it. This gentleman gave the boy the soda. And as soon as he did that, we'll do a sketch here. This door opened up. And this little boy peered inside.And what did he see? He saw two 18-wheeler, low boy flak their trailers. They had interesting things topped on top. There was also a dish-shaped craft there. And then he saw bodies on the floor. So this was the first past drawing that we put together.This was the second pass that gives you an idea of what it looked like inside the hangar. And then I'm going to go to the final rendering. So this craft was 20 feet in diameter. It had tripod landing gear. There were two somewhat enlarged seams wrapped around the outer circumference of the craft. And then three bodies kind of on structures on the bottom of it.And you can see him in the back looking. And it just must have been an incredible sight for it, just a young boy. And it stayed with him his entire life, completely stayed with him. Here's the full colour rendering of what this may have looked like. So again, from these witnesses, it appears that we have this. So when you hear centres in congressmen and they say, well, we don't have any physical evidence, it's possible they might be telling the truth because they don't have a need to. No or they don't have ahigh enough security clearance. Next one, Papago's Indian Reservation West of Globe, Arizona GPE, not too far from the superstition. Mountains And this is page 93 case A10. And the witness was a US Navy during World War II EVENT. Now they were looking for property in a jeep going across the desert terrain.And they were challenged by two MPs that had carbides. I'll go ahead to the next drawing here and you can see they were challenged. And these basically the MP said, I don't think you're supposed to be here. Now, while all this is going on, off to the left, another 200 feet off to the left, is. This 30-foot diameter dish-shaped craft, it had orbed in at about a 40-degree angle. It had a dome on top. There were two ringswrapped around the outer circumference and then what looked like indented. Windows on the side wrapped around the outer circumference. Interesting case, this is our full-color rendering of what this may have looked like if we were. Actually there. Next one, White Sands missile range July 4th. So every one of these is pre- ORGRoswell. Now we're finally getting into the Roswell GPE time frame here. July 4, 1947, this was a technical sergeant, US Army Air Force, page 196.Now this took place on the range at night. And this large 100 to 150 foot diameter dish-shaped craft came down and one point I want. To make is when they started the retrieval operation, this entire scene was excruciatingly. Well lit. They had light-alls, they had searchlights, you can see in the drawing here, they had. Military personnel with guide counters, they had also military photographers withstill camera photographs and then motion picture film reels as well. So this was absolutely documented, 100%. Here's the full color rendering of what this craft looked like. So they also had people in rubber suits crawling up on the rim of this as well. Interesting case. We'll move on here. This is UFO Crasher Treble, 1947, seen in a warehouse at Berkeley GPE of all places. Albert Bruce Collins PERSON now deceased was the witness.He worked in Metallurgical Engineer ORG. This is page 197. So he was at the right place at the right time when this 18-wheeler tractor trailer. Low Boy Truck it backed into Bartley University ORG. He was there and saw this. So we'll go ahead and go to the drawing here.What he ended up seeing was this 30-foot long egg-shaped craft. It had a whole breach on the side of it. It looked like a cracked egg with the yoke inside. There was a three-foot diameter central core and then on the front side of the central core there was a composite panel. On the right side of the core there was another composite panel that wrapped around the outer. Circumference of this inner core. And then if youlook on the lower right on my side, you can see that there was a hole. Breach on the side of the craft. So it looks like this craft may have suffered an implosion and there was shrapnel coming. Out of the bottom side of the craft itself. Here's our full colour rendering of what this looked like. And he was one of these cases where he was at the right place at the right time and got. To see this? Now my question is does this craft, this egg-shaped craft represent a singlecraft by itself or is it part of a much larger craft and this is just the propulsion system that's inside of it. I think we should consider as well. Next one, this is in a carrot patch of all places in Salinas, California. July, August, 1947, seen by two 19-year-old workers. Now it had come down the night before. The morning of his when the foreman came to these two young boys and said, Hey, I think. We got to take a look at something here. What did this thing look like? Here's the original sketch. It was nine feet across, four feet tall, at a flat section on the topand then two rows. A bin dented window sections wrapped around the outer circumference of the craft itself. X marks the spot so you can see where this thing came down, not too far from the major. Highway here. And then this was the first pass of what we put together on what this thing may have. Looked like. Again, this is only a nine foot and down or not a large craft.Now while all this is going on, these boys are watching this within 15 minutes of them. Getting there. One PRODUCT of them got up enough nerve to kick the side of it. So we know that this is something they would do. And 15 minutes later, the military arrived. They were told to get away from the area immediately.There was a six-by-trupe troop transport. There was a jeet there. This truck was pulling a trailer and the boys saw the entire operation where they brought this on the trailer and moved it out of here. So this is something we've heard about again and again. This is our focal rendering of what this may have looked like if we were actually there and could see it at the time. Next one, C1-19 flying box car, Sierra Madavelik, Mexico prior to 1941.Now I'm thinking this is in the 1948 time frame. The primary witness was an engineer. He worked in highway construction. And this is page 32. This is a nine-foot diameter dish-shaped craft. Now how do we know it was a nine-foot diameter dish-shaped craft. Now how do we know it was a 9-footdiameter dish-shaped craft? Well, by default, if we look at the F PRODUCT-cargo bay of AC1-19 flying boxcar, we measured it to the inch. It's 9 feet, 10 inches across. So this craft really can't be any more than nine feet across because you have to allow. Room on either side for clearance. So we're looking right around nine foot diameter. Now this craft came down and this highway construction engineer, he was asked by the United States GPE military to aid in the retrieval operation. So here they are, they are in theretrieval operation. He also said that bodies were recovered and when he went over to touch one of the bodies. The skin came off on his fingers. So it was a little bit of a gruesome sight, but that's what's reported in the actual. Report. Here we've got the F PRODUCT-cargo bay, the C1-19 opened up, loading the craft inside the F-cargo. Bay and this is our full-color rendering of what it may have looked like if we were there. Just trying to maintain an important part of our national history here.Now here is the craft, now you can see the general size, it's not a big craft at all. Now Naval Air Station, Sunavale, California, 1950, Hanna 1, this is a radar operator. Another case within the Stringfield collection, this is page 57. So this operator, he went through a double doorway into this large hangar, which you can. Still go today, this is still something that you can actually go in today. When he got inside, he was shocked to see a massive flying saucer,he was challenged by the guard and he left immediately. But when his mother was reached by Leonard Stringfield years later, now this radar operator. He died in a plane crash, but Leonard ORG did get in a call to his mother and he remembered that his son told her, quote, it was certainly no aircraft of ours, that's a direct quote. From the witness. And this is what we believe it looked like if you take his original comments about a hundred feet in diameter, large craft dome on top, wrap around windows on the outer.Circumference of the upper dome. Next one, classified materials library at an unknown U.S. Air Force Base ORG, this is a former military officer, page 212 to page 213. So he had the correct security clearances to gain access to this classified materials. Library. And he pulled up on one of these drawers and in the drawer, there were two things, a black. And white glossy photograph about 8 by 10 and there was a report about crash retrieval. So he saw the photograph, he read the report and I want to take you inside this file cabinet.To show you what this may have looked like. This thing was about 36 feet in diameter, it crashed in Farmington GPE, New Mexico, which is very interesting because Farmington plays a major role in our favourite research here. Of you, UFOs. He also mentioned that there was a very small pencil-sized hole inside one of these windows. And somehow they figured out how to activate an entryway door on the bottom of the crafted. Software We want to look at some of these the bottom of the crafted. Software.We want to look at some of these quotes here within the report. Military officer had the correct security clearance, which gave him access to a classified Materials Library. Reports seen by witness made reference to crashes, so more than one, and that bodies were recovered. In addition, diamond-tipped drill bits and acetylene torches were used to gain access. To the interior, reference 1946 craft at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base FAC that we already discussed. In the beginning here. Now number four is important here. Eventually, technicians were able to gain access to the interior of the craft by way. Of a small entry hatch.The report said, referring to the door, that it was almost as if the material of the craft liquefied and then solidified again. So that's something that we hear about again and again where the craft, bottom section. Of these craft have sort of like port holes or entryway hatches that are so fully integrated. Into the bottom of the craft, you could not put a razor blade in there and it's almost liquefied into the skin itself.Now we talked about Farmington GPE here. This is Albuquerque Journal March 18, 1950. Hundreds at Farmington GPE report large force of flying sources. There were over 500 of these flying sources. It's called the Farmington GPE report large force of flying sources. There were over 500 of these flying sources. It's called the Farmington Armada PRODUCT.Nothing quite like it has happened since this time. People reported these craft making these 90-degree right-angle turns. They could go backwards. They were seen by hundreds of witnesses. This is called the Farmington Armada PRODUCT. That leads us to here. So this is the Cincinnati Inquirer, July 29, 1952. So in a nutshell,there was a call that went out by the Air Force ORG to all their pilots to shoot these sources down. So it says shoot sources down, jet pilots so ordered in 24-hour air alert. And it's newspaper clipping after newspaper clipping talking about our pilots trying to shoot these things down here. A couple more. That's keeping 24-hour alert for saucers, pilots ordered to down objects if they don't. Land.On the saucer trail, pilots told shoot them down. Jets on 24-hour alert to shoot down Sorsa PRODUCT. So this is a commandment that actually went out here. These are the aircraft that we're using. These alleged shoot downs here, F-94 Star Fire PRODUCT. And if you want to see one of these up close, you can go to the Pima Air Museum in Arizona GPE.That's over to the left here. You can see it with the nose rocket sections all put together and integrated. Off to the right is the Air Force Museum in Dayton, Ohio GPE with these rocket flats deployed. This would have been in a kind of an intercept type scenario. This is what it may have looked like during one of these intercepts. Now, how do we prove that any of this is real?I want to hit you with this quote. This is from a letter to Leonard Strainfield from Mildred Bath cell dated October 2nd, 1979. And here she writes to Leonard ORG. I heard you speak at the Mufant Symposium in Dayton last year. And I am interested in your research on retrievals of the third kind. I gave a talk at a local library last week.And in the discussion period following, a fellow told me that when he was a gun inn. The Air Force, he had emptied his guns on a UFO and had taken pictures with his gun camera. That clearly showed the shells exploding against the side of the craft. He said the camera was taken off the wing of his plane when it landed and the pictures. Developed. At 2 a.m., a couple of military policemen came and got him out of bed and took him to thebase auditorium. They ran the 17 seconds of movie of the UFO over and over and questioned him and two other crew members until 10 a.m. He was warned never to tell anyone what had happened. He said he had a wife and family, a good job and a lot to lose. He seemed afraid of the CIA and wouldn't even give me his name. So this is a case where one of these pilots unloaded an entire magazine of shells on this. Craft. It hit the craft and they got it on a motion picture. They got it on gun camera footage.This is something that I am sure you can bet your last dollar on, that the United States GPE. Government, probably at the Pentagon, Andrews Air Force Base FAC, Andrews Air Force Base, Andrews Air Force Base FAC, you know they have a giant warehouse full of these films. And they don't have the operate on a no single point failure type operation where they don't. Put all their eggs in one basket. These assets would be deployed at different locations so that they could preserve this.History Next one, Pentagon, 1952. This was an office worker at the Pentagon ORG and she somehow, by accident, she bumped through. These double doors into this off-limits room and when she got in there it was very dark. It was very dim. There were boxes around, it was mouldy and everything. She turned to this side and what did she see? She see a quote, pickle alien in a large glass jar. Within five secondsshe felt this hand on her shoulder and it was an MP telling her to. Get out of there immediately. She had to sign papers not to talk about it, but Leonard ORG did get in a call to her hand. She did see this. So this is another case where a witness was, a witness to a very interesting scenario here. Did they have these things at the Pentagon ORG? Did they have these at the bottom of the capital in Washington, D.C.? This is what the witnesses are telling us here. Now Fort Polk, this is Camp Polk, Louisiana, summer 1953. Private in the ArmyCase A1, page 80. Now when this came down, I'm going to give you the map here. This shows you exactly what the scene looked like. This craft was an egg-shaped craft. It was 30 feet across. It had a fin wrapped around the outer portion of the craft that was still rotating when.The military got there. The ground in the local area was parched and still very hot at the time. They had an ambulance truck at the scene. One Jeep PRODUCT was there. There was a body that was carried out on a stretcher and then there were three other. Beings that walked out of the side of this craft from a doorway.The primary eyewitness said that these beings, they were about three and a half feet tall. They had an oversized head, oversized eyes, slit for a mouth, minute nose. They looked like they were wearing mittens and they had a one-piece tight fit in flight. Suit with a helmet on. They had no knee joint. So they had this very stiff movement when they were walking across there. That's from the primary eyewitness. Now I want to take you to the scene in colour so we can kind of get an idea of what this may have looked like now. So here you see the retrieval operation.We've got the ambulance in place. We're beginning to usher these beings outside the craft now. Here they are with the helmets and this is from these military witnesses that, which are telling us this, high-caliber military witnesses. Again, this is a different shot. Now I want to zoom in here, give you an idea of what this may have looked. Can you imagine being here seeing this with your own eyes firsthand with first-hand experience? Right Patterson Air Force Base 1953. This is an Army Reserve Warrant Officer. I do have his name. We do have his name on file. Page 15 abstract number8. Now this warrant officer, this is 1953. He was at the right place at the right time when a DC 7 PRODUCT basically taxed into the tarmac. And this is at night. Possibly Wright-Patterson Air Force Base number 4 is the hangar location. This could have been where it actually took place. So this Wright-Patterson Air Force Base number four is the hangar location. This could have been where it actually took place. So this for engine DC-7, PRODUCT it taxis up into the hangar very similar to what you see here. The hangar bay doors closed and then on the aft left port fuselage side there's a cargo. Bay door that opened up and there was a forklift started offloadingthese wooden crates. There were five wooden crates offloaded. The ones on top, the three crates on top had their lids lifted off and this warrant officer was standing about ten feet away from these wooden crates and he peered over and looked. Inside these crates. I want to give you an idea of what this looked like.He saw three small bodies, very small, three and a half, maybe four feet tall, slightly. Oversized head. They were wearing a one-piece tight fitting flight suit. They were also suspended off the bottom of these crates with a netting that protected it from the dry ice below. So they were trying to protect it from freezer burn. He also heard that they were offloading debris from the crash retrieval that this thing actually came from. Now I want to take you to the full colour illustration that gives you an idea of what. It may have looked like if you were this warrant officer and could actually see these. Bodies here, top view looking down. So we've got the bodies, we've got the craft, we've got the debris. Dutton, Montana in 1953, Cecil Tiny was a civilian. He is the primary eyewitness on this case. This is a bizarre case, page 16from Leonard ORG's book. So this gentleman is driving down the road in a pickup truck. There's oncoming traffic in the opposite direction. He looks up, he sees about a 300-foot-long cigar-shaped craft tip up at about a 45-degree angle. There was smoke and fire belching off the backside of this thing. These balls of fire were coming down on the road igniting the exhaust stacks of the cars. Going in the fire were coming down on the road igniting the exhaust stacks of the cars. Going in the opposite direction. They actually caught them on fire. So I'm going to go tothe drawing here and you can see him driving in the direction with. The cars going in the opposite direction. Now he is astounded by what he's seeing here. He goes about another three miles down the road to a bar and tells the bar owner about. All of this. He files a report. The bar owner said that when he walked in he smelled like lightning. Very strange description.Now about twenty minutes later a police officer also came into the bar and he filed a report. And something happened because the bar owner told this police officer about the witness. Who just came in prior to him? So when the primary eyewitness went to home that night he got a call from a general, which you see on the upper right here. And this general said basically I want to see you.So he was told to go to the base the next morning. And this is the base that he went to. That was his great Falls Air Force Base FAC later, Malmstrom Air Force Base. And I'll go back one here. So he was reprimanded. He was told never to speak about this. He had to sign multiple copies of NDA LAW disclosures, never to talk about this. Now as he's leaving the facility and is being ushered out of the facility, he sees too big. Strong military policemen that have these big sacks on their shoulder.And one guy trips and this bag falls off and he said that what looked like body parts. Inside this bag, that he wasn't sure, but it looked like some type of body parts all. Could be E.T. Body PERSON. He wasn't sure, but it did appear to be some type of body parts within this bag here. Now this is not an isolated incident because in Sao Paulo, Argentina GPE, December 7, 1954. Almost the identical situation took place. There was this long cigar-shaped craft. It had fire and smoke belching off the side of it.It was tipped up at about a 20-degree angle. There was an iris on the bottom of it where three dish-shaped craft came out. One went northbound, one went southbound, the other went more toward the front of the craft. So we see that there is a legacy. There is a history of these type craft, these type configurations. And this is our color illustration of what that may have actually looked like. Now Walker Air Force Base, New Mexico, April 12, 1954. This used to be Roswell Army Airfield 509th FAC bomb group. So we're talking about the samelocation here. This is a gentleman who was in the Air Force between 1954 to 1955, page 82. So he was playing ping pong at the time and a rush alert came in. He was a photographer and he was told to board a Sikorsky H-19 PRODUCT helicopter immediately. And I'm talking immediately. So he got into this helicopter. They took off. They headed northbound from Roswell about ten minutes. Then they made a left-hand turn now heading north-west for about another ten minutes. This was at night. And when they got to the scene, it was incredible.And I'm going to show you what this actually looked like. They had a spotlight from the bottom of the helicopter shining down on about a 50-foot. Diameter dish-shaped craft that had lights revolving around the outer circumference, tipped up at about a 40-degree angle. There was a dome on the craft. He also could see, and you can see him with the cargo bay door open. His outside looking down, taking photographs of this entire scene. He said that he could see four bodies very near to the vicinity of thecraft itself. And he said that he saw military vehicles rushing toward the scene with all their lights on. They eventually land a helicopter about 100 feet away from the craft itself. He gets out of the helicopter. And then he discovers that there's two more bodies inside for a grand total of six bodies. 1953, 1954 timeframe here. This is the full colour illustration of what it may have looked like. So now we'relooking at six, seven, eight, nine retrievals. The body count is starting to get up as getting more difficult to hide all this classified. Information. Now, we also want to talk about the other Roswell. Not just the one in New Mexico, but there was one across the Texas GPE-Mexican border. Spring, 1955, across the Texas GPE-Mexican border, south of Del Rio, Texas. And this is from the book, The Other Roswell by New Torres and my good friend, Ruben PERSON, who really get the credit for this. And so we've got a number of B-47 Bobbers heading westbound over South Texas LOC.They were basically escorted by four F-86 Sabre PRODUCT jets. And all of a sudden, this dis-shaped craft comes right by their flight path and then crashes across the Rio Grande River LOC. One of these F-86 Sabres PRODUCT breaks formation. He flies over the scene, sees all this. He lands at Carswell Air Force Base, gets out of his F-86. He drives to Corsica. He then boards a two-seattandem a rancor, which is a tail-drager. And he flies from Corsica GPE all the way back to the crash scene. And this is what it looked like when he got there. The Mexican NORP generals got there before the American military got. He was like the first on scene. So you can see they had a troop transport. There was a jeet there. This thing was about 25 feet in diameter. The dome had popped off. You see in the foreground here to the Aranka, he was with a friend. So there were two eyewitness to this. And then you can see these Mexican NORP soldiers who were looking over the debris. A veryinteresting statement by the primary eyewitness. He said that as it was getting later in the evening, it started getting colder. And these soldiers were taking blankets from the troop transport. They were putting the blankets over the debris, which was still hot. And then taking the blankets off the debris and putting them on their bodies to warm. Themselves. I just thought that was such an interesting point.Why would anyone make up that particular point? Very interesting. Now, he also said that there were four mangled bodies inside. I don't want to get too graphic here. But the way he described it, quote, arms looked like brumsticks. This is from pilot Robert Willingham. He was there. He saw it. So I want to give you the blow-up of the full-color illustration of what this scene may have looked like if we were there.And then take a look inside the craft itself, looking something like this. So we can see they've retrieved these ET craft itself. Now, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base 1955, this is Mrs. G. And she worked in the Foreign Materials Division at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base FAC. This is page 17. And she had a very interesting job. I want to take you to the next slide here. This is kind of the ending scene to Indiana Jones Raiders of the Lost Ark. WORK_OF_ART This large warehouse.You've got all these boxes and files and things stored away. This is kind of a sight picture here. Now, she worked in this environment. This is warehouse operations building 258. What she said was very interesting. She said that her job was to catalogue a thousand components that came from a UFO crusher.Retrieval, a thousand components. So she said what they had set up was kind of an assembly line. There'd be one guy over here taking a photograph of debris. Then there was another guy here that was bagging and tagging these things. And then it finally got to her and she cataloged all of this stuff over a thousand components. So I told my friend Rudy PERSON, give me a large warehouse. Over to the left, I want to have all these cabinets, drawers, things where you could stack.Up debris. On the other side, I want to have more shelving here. She also said that while she was typing all these tags for the bagging and tagging operation, that there was a rolling dolly that came by that was like a cart on wheels. And there were two bodies that rolled right past her and they were preserved in this. Formaldehyde preservation liquid. And so here's what we came up with.So this is, you know, it's this word against hers against the United States GPE government who says that we don't have any physical evidence. Now just before she passed away, some of the researchers got to her and her exact quote, was, quote, Uncle Sam PERSON can't do anything to me once I'm in my grave. So I give her credit, a hero, an American NORP hero coming forward telling us basically in her dying breath that this is going on. This isactually being retrieved and we do have the hardware. We do have the debris. We do have the bodies. Next one, source retired Air Force pilot late 1950s timeframe. This was an interview conducted by Ed Cameron Jr. Now this gentleman said that he witnessed a five to six minute movie clip. This was a black and white movie clip that depicted a large 60-foot diameter dish shape. Craft that was in an unknown hannah. And he said that the movie split to a different screen that showed basically a display screen. With buttons, switches, dials, levers. There was iconology projected on the inside wall of the craft itself.And there were three bodies near the craft itself. There was a whole breach on the side of the craft and what looked like the propulsion. System on a troop transport near the craft itself. And this is the blow-up of what that may have looked like. So again, military air force pilot coming forward with this story. Interesting case, this is April 1952, Wright Peters and Air Force Base FAC.And this is page 88. This is a transient group of pilots, part of the 354 tactical air command ORG fighter wing. And the Major General who was a part of this tactical fighter wing, he was in charge of keeping all of these guys physically fit. So they are walking down these rows of hangars looking for this mobile handball court where you could have another wall here and one wall here and you'd formate this large racquetball type court. So as they're goingthrough these rows of hangers, one of these hangar doors was opened. They all ran inside and they see this very interesting 15-foot diameter dish-shaped craft. His exact words where it looked like a track and field discus. That's exactly what this thing looked like. They were challenged by a military police. This whole thing was propped up by two engine test stands.They were ushered out of the area immediately. But I thought a very interesting quote is what he said here. The guard challenged by saying, I don't think you're supposed to be here, sir. I replied to the affirmative and we turned about face and departed, rumbling to ourselves. That the good old US GPE had developed or had all along flying sources in service. Personally, I trust this witness.Fighter pilot, no reason to lie. He accidentally saw it was there. I trust this particular witness. This is Reference 53, just an illustration of what he saw. We don't have a lot of details. This is Reference 53, just an illustration of what he saw. We don't have a lot of details. This is 1963.Another case where PJ, who was a captain in the Navy, he later flew for Braniff Airlines ORG. He was at the right place at the right time and did see a 30-foot diameter dish-shaped craft. Within the Stringfield ORG historical collection. Now I want to move on to this case. Very interesting case. I've got a lot of documentation on this one. This is 1963, December 1963, literally days after Kennedy was assassinated November 22nd.1963 in Dallas, Texas. This is a U.S. Marine ORG. I do have his name. I know where he lived back in 1986. Page 52, Case 2. So Cherry Point, North Carolina GPE. He is told to board a plane with blackout windows.I'm going to give you the map shows you where he started from. So here's the pinmark here shows you where he started from. So here's the pinmark here shows you where they started from. So he gets in this plane with blacked out windows. They fly approximately three hours by plane to a location that he wasn't briefed on. When he got out, he saw this large building and they opened up what appeared to be hangar. Doors and I'm going to take you inside the hangar and show you what this craft looked.Like? Now this was a about 40 feet in diameter. It was 15 feet tall, highly polished chrome aluminum exterior. No rivets, no seams, no fasteners whatsoever, no weld seams. There was a fully integrated door at the bottom of the craft itself that you could not put. A razor blade in there. There were nine apocalyptic-shaped windows wrapped around theouter circumference of the craft. And if you look here, I've got the red dots indicating the attempted points of entry with a diamond tip drilled it. He also mentioned that the entire craft, and will go ahead to the color rendering, gives. You an idea what this thing looked like. This entire craft was propped up on aircraft scaffolding and they built a catwalkware. You could walk around this entire thing kind of at eye level looking inside these opaque.What would appear to be windows? Want to give credit to Joseph Wath for doing the artwork. These are the three ways that they try to get in this craft itself. Number one was a diamond tip drill bit. Number two was an acetylene torch and then they tried a laser to get into this craft. We'll talk about that in a bit too. This ladies and gentlemen is the original sketch by the primary of what this is not a carbon copy. This is not a rough, this is his original sketch by his hand. If we look on the upper corners, you see these lights here.The whole place was excruciatingly well lit. No shadows whatsoever. You can see the scaffolding, we've got the catwalk. You can even see these pads under the craft itself. Little bit of a rough sketch but gives you the basic outline of what this craft actually looks like. Here's the drawing by Michael Johnston PERSON who interviewed the primary witness back in 1986. A little bit more of a refined drawing. If you look off to the side,there's a one inchlet that you can see here. A one inch lip between the outer skin of the craft itself and the outer portion of these. Apeak windows. That was very important. The whole thing was propped up about five feet off the ground so you could walk under. This craft if you wanted to. Here's my drawing that gives you a little bit of a refined drawing that gives you a better. Idea. I've blown up the section where there's this one inch lip here.Then I also want to mention that the primary witness said that there was a white circle. Painted directly below this craft. And his job for a period of two weeks in December 1963 was to actually guard this craft for a period of two weeks. He was told that if anyone tried to breach this circle painted directly below this craft. He was to shoot first and ask questions later, no matter who it was. That was his mandate. Here's what the craft may havelooked like from Joseph PERSON's sketch. We try to maintain an important part of our national history here. Here is an illustration that shows what this drilling process looked like. You can forget about diamond tip drill bits. It was completely impervious to diamond tip drill bits. This was the first past color illustration of the scene. You can see MPs in here. You can also look if you look closely, you can see this white painted circle on the floor, giving the idea of what this craft actually looked like here.Now what I want to do is I want to pretend that we're like a fly on the wall and fly. You enter this facility without them knowing it here. So I'm going to take you into the facility. We're entering the chain link fence now. We're through the chain link fence. Now we're walking into the hangar.We're getting a little bit closer here. Now that painted circle on the floor is coming into view. And we can see the MPs. We've got a couple of suits. He did mention that it appeared to be some intelligence people there. I also want to mention that there were two teens of lap coat technicians and they all had color-coded badges. So if you had a red badge, you had access here to the whole facility. If you had a green badge, you could go here but not here.He definitely mentioned that there were color-coded badges associated with these white lab coat. Technicians Top view looking down about a 45 degree look down angle. Clearly in view now you can see the white painted circle. Now the last day he was there and just before the last day he was there, he said that they had built a cradle system and they were hoisting this craft off the scaffolding onto a cradle. They were covering the whole craft with a framework.They covered the framework with a torp and were moving it to the next location. So here is the building of the framework. Now you can see they're beginning to torque the entire craft itself. The torp is basically fully integrated now. They've got the 18-wheeler tractor trailer up and ready. They're getting ready to ship this thing out. Here we've got everything set to go now. Now we're getting ready to move out and now the final mobilization to the next facility.So one way that they keep all of this secret is number one. They compartmentalize everything. That's the first thing. Next thing they do is no one asset stays at any one location for any length of time. They keep moving these things from place to place and they keep reassigning the military. Personnel that actually guard these crafts. So that's one way that they keep these things secret.Now here's the original drawing that Rudy PERSON did just giving you a little bit of an idea of what this actually looked like. Now we talked about the laser. He said that when he was there after they failed with a diamond tip drill bits and they failed with the diamond-tip drill bits and they failed with the acetylene torches, what they actually brought in were two 18-wheeler. Tractor trailer low-boy trucks with an electrical generating device on each of these low-boy. TrucksAnd there were two heavy-gauge cables that came out lead from the flat-bed trucks inside. The hammer connected to a laser and they were shining out lead from the flatbed trucks inside. The hammer connected to a laser and they were shining a laser on the skin of the craft. It reflected off and bounced up and hit a ceiling tile and damaged the ceiling tile. When they moved the laser away, it was worn to the touch but made no effect on the skin. Whatsoever.So bottom line is if they've been pouring in multi-billions of dollars in black budget. Funding, researching, developing, reverse engineering these craft, if they figured out the material. Science and they can integrate that into our fighter aircraft, we would definitely have. An advantage. And you just know that that's what they are trying to do here. Now, here's this site that shows you the ceiling damage and I bring this up. This is his original drawing that shows this incident.It's important because something interesting happened in this very poor sci-fi B-flick. I don't recommend it. It has not held up well over time. This is Hannah 18 from 1980. There's a couple of similarities in this movie. In this movie, there are white lab coat technicians. That's interesting because this Marine NORP said the same thing. Unthinking is Hollywood GPE a belated designer leak for something that's actually going on.Are they trying to tell us something with Hollywood? Number two, the Marine NORP said that the whole thing was propped up by scaffolding. In this movie, they're scaffolding in the movie. That's point number two. Number three, in this movie, if you can make it through 50% of this movie, there is an incident with a laser. This Marine NORP said there was an incident with a laser. So these things are tracking with what'sgoing on in the movie and what he also observed. We talked about the badges. Each one of these lab coat technicians, they had a color-coded badge. If you had a green badge, you could go here. If you had a yellow badge, you could go here. If you had a red badge, you had access to the whole facility. That's how they worked this out with the color-coded badges. I also want to mention that there was a time because his job was to frisk anyone who came into the facility, but there was one time that he was left alone in this hammer facility. With the craft all by himself. He brought in a smallminix camera and he took a photograph of this thing. Unfortunately, that photograph was lost in a flood in 1983. We were this close of getting evidence of what this craft looked like. So I want to take you to a replica of what this Minix PRODUCT camera photo may have looked like. And it may have looked something like this. A little bit grainy, kind of black and white grey tones, something that may have looked like. And it may have looked something like this. A little bit grainy, kind of blackand white-grey tones, something that may have looked like this. We were this close of getting some good evidence. Now there was one particular moment where a US United States Navy ORG had came very close to get in shot by this MP because he had almost breached that white circle that was painted on the floor directly below the craft. And I tracked down it might have been to get in shot by this MP because he had almost breached that white circle that was painted on the floor directly below the craft. And I tracked down it might have been this guy right here.Paul Nince, United States Secretary of the Navy between 1963 to 1967. The time frame checks out. It may have likely been this gentleman. So he would have had sort of a need to know but was denied access from the MP. Now I want to bring up this gentleman for star major General Melvin F. McNichael PERSON. He was base commander at Tinker Air Force Base FAC.What does this have to do with our discussion here? Here is his obituary, ex-Tinker commander Melvin McNichael PERSON dies. This is the Daily Oklahoma July 11, 1986. Now this particular general was friends with a very interesting person, Charlotte Mann PERSON, who was intimately involved in the 1941 Cape Giraro EVENT incident. She actually held the photograph on her hand.They had a mutual interest in UFOs. And so after many years of talking about UFOs, she turns to this general. She says, General, you know, we've been friends for all these years and we have this mutual interest in UFOs and you've never told me anything. You've never spilled the beans. You've never really given me any briefing about UFOs. Are you still my friend? So he turns to her and says, Charlotte PERSON, if you ever repeat what I'm about to tell you,I'll deny it and it could ruin my career. That's what he told her. So what he went on to tell her is, number one, he saw a UFO which was located in the West. Isn't that interesting? Because the Marine who left by Cherry Point, North Carolina, three hours by plane, puts it in the vicinity of the West. That checks out. Number two, Charlotte PERSON meant that this general told her thathe walked around a UFO on a catwalk which was propped up by scaffolding. This is exactly what the Marine had described. Number three, this general told Charlotte Mern PERSON that bodies were recovered and one was still alive. This particular Marine NORP overheard water cooler talk about bodies being recovered and at least something being alive. So these things, they check out. And I heard this from Charlotte Man at UFock about four years ago. I said, yep, I got it because I know these two people didn't know each other and they're. Tracking completely the witnesses check out. Now, could thepublic handle the truth? I can't make that statement. I'm going to give you the statement from the gentleman who was there and saw the physical evidence for himself. This is from the Marine NORP. Quote, there's a certain amount of people who, if the thing was on display down the street, would still rather stay home and watch football. Not by US Marine August 22nd, 1986. So according to someone who's within a military application, military field who's seen there. Evidence with his own eyes, he feels we're ready. I think we're ready. I think we're ready. I think the congressman think that we should be ready.We really do need to move forward with disclosure here. Now, Fort Riley, Kansas GPE, we have the audio tape interview of the primary eyewitness on. This case. This is December 10, 1964. He served in the Infantry First Division. His initials are AK. We do have his name and this is page 24 abstract 20. Here is the map at Camp Forsythe FAC, where this all went down. He boarded a military vehicle. They went into a six-by-truped transport where they went about a mile down the road. They got into this opening that was completely, this is a dark night retrieval operation. When he got there, he saw a U.H1 Huey PRODUCT helicopter that wascrisscrossing the scene with a spotlight. Shining down. We have his original sketch. And when he got to the exact scene, this is the craft that he saw. It's about 48 feet in diameter, 18 feet tall. It had a thin kind of on the F end of the craft. There were also these very strange square devices that were jutting out 10 inches from the outer circumference of the craft itself and then on the bottom side of this thin. It looked like there was an exhaust port. That's what he said. This was the first color rendering that I put together of what this thing may actuallyhave looked like. And then this is the sketch by Rudy PERSON that shows you the together of what this thing may actually have looked like. And then this is the sketch by Rudy PERSON that shows you the scene of what it may have looked like. If we were there. Now they also had men with Geiger PERSON counters looking at this and he said that when he got closer to the craft, it was warmer than the outside atmosphere temperature. So that was an interesting point as well. So this is the full colour rendering of what this may have looked like. You can see the UH1 PRODUCT up on the upperleft shining the spotlight down. Good witness. We've got his paperwork. We've got his documentation. We've got his original sketch. And we'll go to the next viewing of this illustration, a little bit more of a three-quarter view. Here. This shows the exhaust port and a fin in a little bit greater detail. Now there were other witnesses not connected to the original witness that reported this.Craft on a flatbed trailer leaving the base and other witnesses came forward that they had hazmat suits on when they were involved in the retrieval operation. So multiple witness on this particular case. Now I debated whether or not I should include this, but since we're all on the same team. Here, I'm going to include it anyway. This is US Air Force Museum, Dayton, Ohio, 1965. This is page 93. If you go to the Air Museum today, you can go pretty much to the exact spot of where this scene actually took place. So a couplewent to the Air Force Museum on a Sunday. This is back in 1965. So the wife and the husband are looking at the V-2 rocket display. For some reason, he leaves his wife and the husband are looking at the V2 PRODUCT rocket display. For some reason, he leaves his wife and he just starts walking around the Air Force Museum FAC. Leaves his wife completely stranded. And so here is the V2 PRODUCT rocket display. He's starting to walk down these corridors now and he gets kind of lost.He bumps through this double doorway that says off limits and he is met with an incredible sight. This is what it looked like. There was this strange being through and a half to four feet tall. He was wearing a one-piece Mercury ORG space suit that was kind of wrinkled. He had a helmet on, oversized head, very small mouth, minute nose. He was stretching out his index finger toward the primary eyewitness. Within ten seconds, all of the alarms in the Air Force Museum FAC went off.All the buzzers went off. All the red light started going off. And he noticed that there were people ushering the general public out of the museum. And this was like a red alert. So somehow, whatever this creature was, it had escaped its underground containment center at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base FAC and was wandering the back inner corridors of theAir Force Museum. Believe it or not, it's part of the story. It's part of the case. United States Air Force, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base FAC, 1966 Civil Service Electrician. Now this is a case where this gentleman, he got into some trouble because what he did is he stole a photograph from Wright-Patterson Air Force Base FAC. He brought it home that night.One of his two sons was present at home that night. He says, I got something I want to show you. So he went into his breast pocket, pulled off his photograph, and it depicted about a for foot tall E.T. It was deceased. It was being held up by its wrist.One PRODUCT gentleman was wearing military carkeys and military boots. The other was kind of like a white lab coat technician. This was kind of in a southwest desert environment. Could have been Arizona at the time. We weren't sure. So he showed his son when he got back to base the next day, they discovered the photograph was missing. He was fired on the spot. So this is one of these cases where it did not have a good ending, but they did have. The evidence. This is Southwest July 3, 1967. Right first class in the marine 30-foot diameter dish-shaped craft. So the setup here is thisparticular military personnel got on a plane with blackout. Windows. They flew to an UN ORG-improved dirt runway. When they got there, they saw three things. There were a couple of tents off to the side. There was a prefabricated building.And then over to the left, there was this concert-style hut. And his job was to guard this hut and don't let anyone in this hut. Now after about three days of all this, he saw these other people going into this prefabricated. Hannah PERSON. And Curiosity PRODUCT got the best of him. So he peered inside, opened up this flap, looked inside.And what he saw was a 30-foot diameter dish-shaped craft. It had a dome on top. He also mentioned that there were work benches with technical components on there, like calipers. There were micrometers there. Microscopes were there. What code technicians there? Off to the corner, there was a walk-in freezer with body bags. That's what he said. Now he was reprimanded as well. So this is another case where this military personnel got to see this physical evidence.Here's the full-color rendering of what this may have looked like if we were there at the. Time of the incident. Fort Hood, Texas, late 1960s private pilot. This is page 91. Very interesting case. Very important case to this entire story here.So late 1960s, 1968 timeframe, assessment 172 pilot is flying over Fort Hood FAC. And within Fort Hood, there's something called Gray Army Airfield FAC. Plays a real big role in all this. So this pilot is making an emergency landing on one of these UN ORG improved runways, which is off limits because it's a secure facility. Now while all this is going on, a military jeep pulls up with two MPs with pistols aimed. Right at him. You can see him off to the corner here, the Sesta-172 and PRODUCT the upper view here.While all this is going on, a massive repeat, massive 400 foot long by 400 foot long bypassed. Door opens up. It was the entrance to a massive underground facility. He said that there was a cray computer section there. There were helicopters in there. This may have been the staging point for craft that looked like the Cashlander PERSON incident.That's July 29, 1980, much many years later. But he did see this large underground facility. What it was, is it was an underground runway and he had seen the bypass doors. No one would even know it's there because the upper surface of this bypass door had. Bushes, it had trees, it had low shrubs on it. It blended in with the surrounding background. You would never know it's there if you weren't looking for it. So what they do is at the very final approach of an aircraft, they tell the pilots,look. At for this location, look for this bypass that door opens up and then they can land straight. Inside. So the question is, is there an underground seeker facility at Grey Army Airfield FAC? A couple of quick things I want to mention from researcher Tommy Blan PERSON who interviewed. This military personnel that had talked about the pilot here. It says, the colonel stated that underground installations as well as isolated areas of.Military reservations have squadrons of unmarked helicopters which have sophisticated instrumentation. On board that are dispatched to areas of UFO activity to monitor these craft or air. Left them out of the area if one of them has malfunction. So many times we hear eyewitnesses in the vicinity of Grey Army Airfield FAC where a UFO is being escorted by military helicopters. So you know they are doing these test flights.The other quote here, the technology that is being applied in this underground complex would remind someone of a science fiction thriller. It is unbelievable what they know and can do from this area. This is Tommy Blan, page 92. So interesting quotes by this particular researcher. This is the Chinook-C-H-47 PRODUCT helicopter that time after time we see in these UFO sightings.Where this craft is ushering it's escorting these UFO craft. So here's the full color rendering of what this looks like. You can see the pilot with the 172 PRODUCT in the upper section of the illustration. We've got the bypass door open up. AC130 PRODUCT is coming in for a landing. This is a massive complex.And there is a Meglev PRODUCT train that connects all these underground facilities together. We've heard this so many times that there's a massive criss-crossing structure of underground. Facilities that connect all these bases together. So my question is how do we prove that? Do we have any paperwork that could prove that there is such an underground facility? Network?And I want to talk about that a little bit later here. California City, Summer 1971, Debbie Clayton, page 223, that's the primary I witness on. This case. And what they heard was a loud roar like an engine of an airplane starting up. Seconds later they heard a boom and a crash. There were only about six houses in the vicinity.So they walked out. There were about six eyewitnesses with the neighbors. And they saw this ten-foot diameter disshaped craft. It was about five feet tall. It had a mushroom edge on the outer circumference of the craft itself. Within ten minutes, the military arrived. We believe from Edwards Air Force Base FAC.They were told to exit the vicinity. The commanding officer grabbed the camera from one of the primary eyewitnesses through it to the ground. He did not take the film out of the camera. And then all six eyewitnesses watched the entire retrieval operation where they put a netting. Under the craft. They had straps that led to an iris and then they hoisted the craft up onto the 18-wheeler. Tractor trailer Lowboy and moved it back to Edwards Air Force Base FAC.Good case, good eyewitnesses. Now this case is another one of these. I just don't know if I should bring it up. But since we're all here, it's part of the story. I'm going to bring it up anyway. This is Cambodia April 1972, high-ranking army officer, page 221, 223.There was a firefight. There was an incident. There was a conflict between a military platoon of army rangers, you could say, and an ET. Race. This is the vicinity of where this took place in Cambodia GPE. This witness came forward.It's in Leonard ORG's book. And this was about a 50-foot diameter sphere, highly polished reflective chrome exterior. No scenes. No visible means of propulsion. No rivets. It had a series of tripod landing gear legs that came out. This is the original sketch. There was an insignia on the craft itself. And what he described is a confrontation by its and military personnel.There were multiple ET casualties, one human casualty, definitely a fifeite. Now what was going on here is some of these it were loading human body parts into white. Plastic bins and then loading it into the craft. They saw this going on. A very gruesome scene, but it's part of the historical legacy. Something was going on in Vietnam GPE. There is absolutely a lot of good evidence to indicate that something bizarre was really. Going on during Vietnam GPE. This is the full-color rendering of what this Phi-Fite may actuallyappear. Now how do we know that? If we start looking at the cases from all of the Auto Binder ORG reports, and I've got one. Here, this is September 9, 1968. A helicopter crew of the US knew it was no Vietnam GPE craft that made fantastic maneuvers. Through the sky for 20 minutes, but was a genuine UFO. Credit goes to George D. Forcet PERSON. And it's case after case of these military encounters with UFOs during the Vietnam War EVENT.Can't be denied. This is the full-color rendering of what this incident may have looked like. And then I got a report by my late good friend Mark McCannalish PERSON who interviewed A. B. 24. Liberator pilot who flew A B-52 during Vietnam. This is in South Vietnam, 1966. So the setup here is, it's at night, and this B-52 is PRODUCT flying with multiple crew members. They come across a one-quarter to one-half-mile dis-shaped craft, and you can see thelittle dot, that's A, B, 52. This is all at night. So now they do about three orbits around this B-52, and you can see these bypass doors wrapped. Around the outer circumference of the craft. These bypass doors start rotating at a very high RPM. I'll go to the next drawing here that shows you the auto-CAD rendering.These bypass doors were rotating so quickly they turned out to be a blur. It was so fast. Now you can imagine these B-52 pilots, they are flying around the outer dome of this craft. This dome was made up of about 27 levels, and the reason why they could do this is because the B 52 PRODUCT is shielded for EMP, so there was no effect on the B 52 PRODUCT whatsoever. Here's kind of a drawing of what this may have looked like,and then this is Marx. Original sketch of the B52 PRODUCT making this left-hand turn. Now what happened next is really interesting, and keep in mind this is all at night time. The B-52 pilot told Mark McCannlish that as this craft departed, and this is all at night. It opened up some time of a wormhole or spacetime continuum, and this craft zipped inside this. Wormhole, opened up a section that looked like blue sky and clouds. When the craft went in, the blue sky and clouds trickled back to darkness again. Very bizarre scene, but this is from a military pilot who flew B-52s in Vietnam Complex FAC.Great Lakes Naval Training Center, September 1973. This is a gunnery school instructor, and he was told to guard a Quonset-style building. This is page 89. So this general came up to him and said, I have something that I need you to deliver. To the commanding officer inside this Quonset-style facility. So this gentleman walks down this corridor, he makes a left-hand turn, he is escorted.By these CBs, military police on either side. When he gets in this large corridor, he sees a teardrop-shaped UFO that could be considered. A U.S. GPE so unidentified submerged object. It's propped off the floor about two feet on a wooden platform. This is what the craft looked like, about 35 feet across, about 12 feet high, tier drop. Shape, there was a ridge that went from the leading edge of the craft over on top to the trailing edge. And I'll go ahead and move to the next color illustration.This is something that could go in water very easily. And this is what the craft actually looked like. So he got inside, he delivered this letter to the commanding officer, he kind of did. An about face, and then as his walking by, he got a real good look at this craft. He said that there was a blue coronal discharge on the leading edge of the craft itself as. He was walking by.Now, what's interesting here is the story didn't end here because two weeks prior to. All this going on, he met a naval personnel at a bar one night. And this guy said, you know what, I was on a Navy destroyer and we shot down a UFO that had a tear drop shape to it. And this is interesting because it jived exactly what this other gentleman had said. So this is tracking.This is back in June 1973 prior to this all going on. And this gentleman told our primary witness that none other than Howard Hughes is Glomer PRODUCT. Explorer PRODUCT was used to pick this thing off the bottom of the ocean. So that makes you wonder, wow, what did Howard Hughes PERSON know and what other things did there? Blomar Explorer PRODUCT pick off from the ocean bottom? How CIA diverse retrieved Russian secrets, San Francisco Examiner, March 19, 1975.And that's talked about in this book, A Matter of Risk WORK_OF_ART. During 1973 to 74, a Russian submarine was recovered from the bottom of the Pacific Ocean LOC. And my question is, is there something else they recovered? Did they do something else with this? Are there other assets that this device actually picked up? According to RK's informant, the object was retrieved by the Glomar Explorer PRODUCT, shippedto Hawaii and then sent stateside and finally to Chicago. A sketch of the craft was drawn by the sailor. And according to RK ORG, there was little doubt that it was the same object he had seen in. The Quants and Hut. So we've got two independent confirming witnesses that didn't know each other, that are describing.Virtually the same identical craft. Houghton Air Force Base, this is back in 1973, this one came to us by John Lear PERSON. This is page 160. Now, this is a photographer working in Hawaii at the time. He had his security clearance upgraded and he was flown to Norton Air Force Base where he was met with another photographer. They both get in this Air Force carand then they drive two hours by car to an unknown location. All of a sudden the car stops and completely stops. And then there was a lift that dropped this car down to an underground facility. Both photographers get out of the car, they go into another room, they disrobe are completely. Mute. Now they are put on this white smock and they go into this open area and I want to take. You inside this area to show you what they saw. They had their smocks on, they've got their headdress on and they were told to go inside.A 30-foot diameter dish-shaped craft to photograph the interior. It had been propped off the floor in a netting by a large crane and if you look closely you can see kind of the entryway doorway. Now keep in mind, this photographer said that this thing was 30 feet in diameter. When he got inside, his exact quote was, I could have thrown a football as hard as I. Couldn't still not hit the other side. So something was going on inside this craft, a space-time walkor something that it made. To look about ten times larger than the exterior was. He was astounded by what he saw. There were other people in there and his job was to photograph the interior components. The displays, the dials, the panels. He popped his head back out inside just to confirm that it was still 30 feet in diameter. And it was still 30 feet in diameter. Now when this was all over, they were lowered back onto the floor, they went to another room where they were told to photograph an ongoing autopsy of two bodies at the minimum. It could have been was all over, they were lowered back onto the floor, they went to another room where they weretold to photograph an ongoing autopsy of two bodies at the minimum. It could have been three bodies. So this is an illustration that shows you what this craft may have looked like in the netting. It could have been an oversized overhead crane-type device. This is the enlargement and then this is what the interior may have looked like. Now you could throw a football in here, that would work. So something that may have looked like the interior of this craft is what he may have. Seen when he got inside. Now how do we know thatthis whole concept of these underground bases and underground? Tunnels are actually a reality? So this is Los Angeles Times ORG July 1972. This is a long time ago. L.A. to New York in half an hour. 10,000 mile an hour tunnel train plan is developed. They talk about the inner workings of this, how that you can take and suck out all the air. You have a vacuum. You've got electromagnetic propulsion in many of these cases.I'll do a blow up here that shows you the cutaway of the passenger section. So is there anything that we can hang our hats on to actually prove the existence of? This? So I want to hit you with this document. Project Ran, Proceedings of the Second the second protective construction symposium, Deep Underground. Construction March 24th, 25, 26, 1959. This is a long time ago here. What do they say in their own documents here? It says, just as airplanes, ships and automobileshave given man mastery of the surface of the Earth LOC, tunnel-boring machines and chef-sinkers will give him access to the subterranean world. It is our aim to provide machines which will supply the ever-increasing demand in mining. And construction of underground facilities. That's right there. In their own documentation, they are telling you that they've got the technology, they'vegot the need, they've got the means, they've got the funding to do this over the last 50. 60, 70 years. They've been doing this. This is what the autopsy scene may have looked like. This is according to this photographer that had his security clearance upgraded. McClellan Air Force Base, California, 1973.This is interesting because I'm sure all of you here know this gentleman. So there's a personal touch here. There's a personal connection here. Elisun Onizuco PERSON was a test pilot. He was stationed at McClellan Air Force Base back in 1973. He was brought in unannounced with these other pilots into this briefing room. About this size right here, there are about 12 pilotsthere. All of a sudden, the lights go down and in the back there's this movie projector and this three-star general projects on this wall, a motion picture film and what do they show? Here? Here is a test pilot, Elysson on Azuka LOC. They are shown about a five-minute movie clip of two aliens being autopsied on a slab. This is Elysson PERSON looking back here.We've got the general in the foreground here. He is absolutely astounded about this. He was going to tell Leonard ORG Stringfield all about this. He was absolutely astounded because one of Leonard's researchers got to this gentleman. In time. However, two weeks before Leonard Stringfield PERSON was going to interview this test pilot who later became an astronaut, Alyssa Onizuca died in the Challenger PRODUCT explosion.We were this close of getting his testimony. Now, I tracked down his widow. I sent her a letter and I sent her this drawing exactly. I never got a response. I don't know if she didn't want to reply, but at least I gave it a try. We would have had some really good, incredible evidence from a former test pilot and challenger. We would have had some really good, incredible evidence from a former test pilot and challenger. Astronaut that died on July 28, 1986.Witness said that top secret UFO library existed at McClellan Air Force Base FAC. David Armstrong claims his aunt used to work for a top secret UFO records library at McClellan FAC. Air Force Base In his 20s, Armstrong PERSON went to visit her and knowing he had an interest in the subject. Armstrong PERSON says his unlet him take a look at the files. So this is an evidence that it appears that there was a classified top secret library. A vault that included photographs, could have been drawings, could have been 8 by 10 glosses. And motion picture film reviews,could have been at McClellan Air Force Base, and that. Checks out with a listen on Isuka PRODUCT. And here he is right here. This is our astronaut. And of course, he died in the Challenger PRODUCT explosion. This is close to getting it. Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, 1974. This was a new hire that gave her two-week notice. And the gentleman's name was Kent PERSON. He was the interviewee. He was her boss. And they went to a dinner engagement. The boss was coincidentally there. And all of a sudden, the subject of you-fos came up as it sometimes does.And this boss of the lady could see that she was being ridiculed. And so he turns to the new hire and says, do you want to see the evidence? And she said, now? He said, now. So they get in his car. They drive to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base FAC.He had the correct security clearances in key card entry codes. They walk down this corridor. He slides this key into a locking device. It opens up. That gives them access to an underground morgue where there's these multiple drawers. He pulls off the store and there was an ET there about three and a half to four feet tall.Had an oversized head, oversized eyes. She saw it. She touched it and on the way home, she was trembling. We got her case on testimony as well. It changed her life forever. She could not believe what she was seeing.Now when the two weeks were up and she reported to work that Monday, she was told by the receptionist that her boss passed away. He was no longer in the operation at all. We don't know what happened to the boss. So he completely disappeared off the radar screen. Calliam incident, Noi Taurus and Rubin PERSON get credit for this particular case. This is August 24, 1975.A dis-shaped craft was flying northbound across the Texas GPE-Mexican border. Coincidentally, a Cessna 172 PRODUCT was flying southbound. There was a mid-air collision. And this is the map. A little bit hard to see here. But this craft was going about 2,530 miles an hour.Elk due to a 75,000 feet drop down to the same altitude that the 172 PRODUCT pilot was flying. Out. There was a mid-air collision. And while all this is going on, the Mexican NORP soldiers are beginning the retrieval operation. And the intelligence agencies, the NSA, the CIA ORG, they are monitoring the radio traffic. While all this is going on, they knew about all this.But the Mexican soldiers got there first. So what they did is they put the craft on an 18-wheeler tractor trailer low boy and there. Starting down this dirt road retrieving this craft and then something bizarre takes place. The entire convoy stops completely dead in their tracks. And when the Air Force reconnaissance US GPE assets do a flyover, they see all these Mexican NORP soldiers thrown out on the ground. They are all completely gone. Some of these people were passed out over the steering wheel. Others were passed out on the ground. They are all completely gone.Some of these people were passed out over the steering wheel. Others were passed out on the drivers and passenger side. All of them were dead. There was some type of biological agent associated with this craft itself. So they flew in three UH one helicopters with a CH 53 PRODUCT stallion, brought a lasso around. The craft itself and then flew it to CDC ORG headquarters.And that's the bottom line on this particular crash retrieval operation. These are the helicopters that were involved in the military retrieval operation. This is the illustration that shows you what this retrieval operation may actually have. Looked like. Top view looking down. So again, they've got these craft.There could have been a biological agent. There may have been bodies associated with this particular incident. Fort Dix-Maguire Air Force Base, New Jersey GPE. This is January 18, 1978, Sergeant in the Air Force and Major General George Filer PERSON was there. The morning after this actually took place. So this military police is on his regular round. This is all at night. When out from the darkness on the far side of Fort Dick's Maguire Air Force Base FAC,I've got the map here that shows you the perimeter fence. An ET pops out of the darkness so what this MP does is he gets out of his vehicle. He opens up his pistol, 45 caliber pistol, and he shoots this being. This being climbs over the fence to the Maguire FAC end of the field and dies at the end of the remote runway. The X here shows you where this body was. This is what the vicinity of where the retrieval operation took place. And this is the drawing that we came up with that gives you an idea of what this took place.Now what happened next is this body was put up on a pedestal. They built a wooden crate around it. They sprayed it with a chemical. They loaded this wooden crate with a body into a metal container. And then that metal shipping container was put into the F-cargo Bay of AC-141 starlifter PRODUCT. And flown back to Wright Field Dayton, Ohio GPE.And this is something that happens again and again. We always hear these reports of these crash retrieval making their way to Wright-Patterson. Air Force Base Dayton, Ohio GPE. This is the aircraft that flew this thing back to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base FAC. Now I want to mention some women in this field. We need more women in Apology PRODUCT. We absolutely do. There is a lack of women in this field. Marina Popovich, ace pilot, this is page 245. She got a very interesting report from a Soviet NORP colonel and engineered. She was a decorated.Test pilot. The reference for this case is this gentleman, Major General Aga Moldzlov PERSON, commander in Chief of the Soviet Air Defense Troops ORG. And what he described from the general is two MiG-23s trying to intercept a 650-foot diameter. This shaped craft near Moscow GPE. While all this is going on, we've got his report. So I started digging. I pulled up the newspaper clipping. It says Soviets NORP, more serious about sightings, Miami Herald, July 8, 1990. We're not going to read the whole thing, but I want tohighlight just a couple of quick. Points here. Moldzlov PERSON also reported that jet fighters were scrambled and the pilots described a disc. From 100 to 200 meters in diameter flying at speeds two to three times faster than there. Aircraft coin is said. The general concluded that the UFO had somehow, quote, come to terms with gravity and that. It didn't seem to appear to be a terrestrial machine. Very interesting terminology. It came to terms with gravity. I thought that was very interesting.Reference number 16, alien autopsy, performed at Walter Reed Hospital ORG. This is something that we've heard about again and again. These autopsies by the pathologists. This is date 1952, 53, Kimma, Arizona from Dr. Stanley Titeko PERSON. That's the reference for this one. So the question is, what do these ET beings look like?Let's look at it from the pathologist report. Incredible background. What do they look like? What are the reports telling us from the pathologist? Well, they are saying that they are three and a half to four and a half feet tall. Two round arm and shaped sunken in eyes without pupils. Heavy brow ridge. Large hairless head by human standards. No ear loads. No definitive nose. No slit for a mouth. We've got verythin neck. Small torso wearing a metallic flexible garment. Arms described as long and thin reaching down to the knees. Hands have four fingers without thumb, slight webbing. Short and thin legs, no toes. Skin color, beige tan, brown tan, pinkish grey.So if you put all of these descriptions from the pathologist report and you came up with a drawing, this is what it would look like. I believe that this is the best rendering that we can possibly put together of what these beings look like based on the actual pathologist report of people who were involved in the autopsies of these beings in multiple locations including Walter Reed Hospital ORG. So again, what does the Vatican know about this? Danny had talked about that this morning and thank you for bringing that up. What does the Vatican know about this? Well, according to page 201 UFOcrash retrieval, absolutely they have a lot. They have a need to know. And there's also mention, a very brief mention of something called the White Book, which is allegedly mankind's historical interaction with its over the past 2,000 years. So what would it look like if we took and we went inside the Vatican archives? This report says that at least one E.T craft was recovered. It may have looked something like this where you've got the scrolls from the library of. Alexandria, you've got one craft there.There's no telling over thousands of years what the Vatican ORG has. You know they've got stuff that would just be incredible. So in this presentation what I try to do is provide credible military sources who have. Seen the debris, the bodies, the craft, people who had first-hand knowledge of loading these. Craft up onto 18-wheel tractor trailers and moving these to at least right patterns. In Air Force space, we absolutely want to maintain an importantpart of our national history and I want to. Thank you for your attention. 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My name is Christopher your AI host for this episode. Please don't forget to click on the links below and welcome to the Paranormal Report. Trump doesn't know it yet but the forecast looks stormy today. So, we have about two hours, and I'm going to use it all up. So buckle up. I've got a lot to talk about. Um, I don't know where I want to start.Well, I got slides. I can just follow my slides, I suppose. But, you know, I think we're all just in a state of amazement. I mean, absolute shock and amazement at where this entire UFO culture. And community and public discourse has gone in the last few years. I can tell you for myself in, um, you know, 2015, 2016, not that long ago. I had not the slightest idea that what we're living through would happen. And I'm not saying that we're coming to disclosure because I actually don't think that we are.But we are moving in a direction that's quite fascinating. And we want to pay close attention because we're... Well, we're in a place that we've never been. And we're going to places that we don't, uh, we're going to have a wild ride here. So, I've titled this disclosure outlook where we are, what's missing and what's likely. Uh, first thing I guess I'll talk about is a little bit of history. That's what I do most of the time. Although, actually, I think a lot about the future these days.And I'll have a few things to say about that, too. But, um, I guess I think about the past. And when I look back on the passive uphology, I see, I think that we may be able to say that. 1947 to 2017 is a unit. It's a, it's a period. That's got a sense of coherence to it.I'll call it 70 years of denial. You start with Kenneth Arnold Roswell in 1947. And, uh, you know, doing that entire period right up until 2017. If you were to ask the government about UFO truth and what have you. The answer would be relatively the same throughout that entire period. Which is that, nope, there's nothing like that. We're not interested. We don't do that. There's, you know, if you seesomething, maybe you see an experimental something or other. But you're not seeing aliens. There's no evidence, etc., etc. And I want to go through a little bit of that history. Because frankly, in the conversations that we're having these days, the history's just been siphoned out. There's no history in the conversation about UAP, aka UFOs. UFOs haven't been rebranded as UAP, and that's okay. You want to rebrand it, be my guess, but at least don't take out the history.So I just want to remind us because we've, you know, those of us in this community. All these years, we've, we've known the history. And now that the rest of the world is hearing about UAP ORG, they don't know any of the history. And they're not being told any of the history. But what happened starting in 1947 is that this nation had a revolution. National Security RevolutionNot our last, we had one in 2001, and we had one last year. But in 1947, we had a big one, and it was, a lot of things. It was a reorganization of the national security establishment, so we got, you know, CIA, we got an independent Air Force, we got a national security council, and, um, and on top of that, we got deepened manipulation by the intelligence community. Of many, many important institutions of this society, such as the media. Something that wasn't communication and cooperation before,but in the 1940s and 50s. It just got crazy. So some of you've heard of Operation Mockingbird EVENT, and if you haven't, you should know what that is. But essentially that CIA ORG getting its hooks inside of all of American NORP media. And not just influencing it, but often controlling it. Literally creating fake news often, you know, if you want to overthrow foreign governments. They go out of model in 1954, you just plant fake stories in the press. Get people worked up and you justify your coup, and they did that many times. We talk about fake news, well, the biggest purveyors of fake newsis the United States GPE. Intelligence community. They're the ones, and they work through the big organizations, of course. And they did it back then, and that really took off in a big way in the 40s. Dido PERSON with academia. Forget that one a lot. There was a good book I read many years ago called cloak and gown WORK_OF_ART by a historian. Named Robin Winks PERSON, I believe. He's gone, but that was a good study of the relationship of the CIA with Yale University ORG.Kind of the revolving door of recruitment out of Yale and of the Ivy League ORG in general. But it was far, far beyond that. There's a true revolving door of the intelligence and national security state. With the world of the upper echelon of academia. That's kind of important. There's a lot of influence there.There's a lot of guard dogs and watch dogs position strategically within those institutions. To keep younger scholars in line if they step out. And for many years, of course, that worked perfectly within the UFO field. It was a Harvard astronomer, Donald Mansell PERSON, the most prominent UFO debunker for a long time. Look, if you were some young academician back in those days and you wanted to get out of line. And talk about this, Menzel PERSON would just smack you down.Who's going to fight a Harvard ORG astronomer on UFOs? No one. By the way, Menzel, of course, as we now know, had deep connections to the NSA ORG. No one knew that at the time. And, you know, control over politics, control over culture. All of this got very, very deep in the 1940s and beyond. So that was the revolution. And at the same time, here's the thing, the UFO phenomenon comes, boom. Right into the lapse of the world in the 1940s, but's the thing, the UFO phenomenon comes, boom.Right into the lapse of the world in the 1940s, but it didn't come into a vacuum. It came into a world in which the United States GPE had gone through this transformation, into something that it had never been before, which is really a formal corporate empire. And that's the group that had to handle this problem. So what did they did? They just denied, denied, denied. That's a New York Times piece right after Roswell GPE when theyput that whole thing to bed. So they're denying UFOs, but what was behind the curtain? So I'm just going to go through a couple, a very small number of quotations. From my favorite part of uphology, which are declassified to government documents. That's what got me in and beginning all those years ago. And I still think we can't lose sight of the important statements that were made. Back in the early years. So this is actually from, you know, the very famous statement by General Nathan Twining PERSON.In September 23, 1947, Twining was a three-star general at the time. He later became a four-star general in chief of staff of the U.S. Air Force ORG. And in 1947, he's answering a question from another general, Charles Schulgen PERSON, who's saying, What about these flying disks? So these are the things that I got to worry about or not. Is this something that we're doing?What's the deal, General? Antwining writes back a secret memo to Schulgen PERSON and he says a few things. One PRODUCT is, the phenomenon is something real and not visionary or fictitious. Now that was classified at the time, but you imagine if that had gotten out to the public. In 1947 when the Air Force ORG is playing this little game of pretend that this is all. Fictitious hallucinations and so forth. But here's Twining PERSON saying, no, it's real. Our reports are telling us it's real.He describes in these reports what military pilots and military personnel are reporting. Relating to these encounters and describing extreme rates of climb. Maneuverability, and action which must be considered evasive when cited. So they're intelligent and they've got extraordinary capabilities. Again, we're talking in 1947. He goes on, metallic or light reflecting surface. So they're getting good visuals of these things.And my favorite, circular or elliptical in shape, flat on bottom and domed on top. What in God's name is going to be flat on bottom and domed on top with incredible? Maneuverability in 1947 evading U.S. GPE interceptors. Well, that's the question. Here's another document from Curtland Air Force Base, 1949, late January. Back at that time, there was something known as the Green Fireballphenomenon. It was going, well not all throughout New Mexico GPE, but I don't know. North and South of Albuquerque GPE. This got the military and military scientists extremely worked up. Like to the point, I wouldn't say of panic, but of let's say extreme concern. These objects were coming in very, very controlled, low, obviously maneuverable. No one knew what the heck these things were. And it prompted ongoing classified meetings of high-level military people and scientists. And this one, memos, this is like one drop in the bucket, says sighting of identical objects.Talking about a previous one, by approximately 30 people estimate at least 100 total sightings at that point. It goes on. By the way, the AEC and the AFSWP were all nuclear, so the AEC became the Department of Energy ORG. An AFSWP ORG was, what is that? Armed Forces ORG, Special Weapons Project. The Manhattan Project ended, that became this organization which was in charge of all military control over nuclear technology.That's basically what that was. They don't exist now. So you've got a lot of nuclear concern about this. And you think about nukes in the late 40s. There was nothing more important in terms of weapons and technology. In fact, at this particular time, America GPE still had a monopoly of nuclear weapons.And Soviets NORP were fast on the track. And they would get their first nuke detonated later that year. But I guess my point here is that these very important organizations were perturbed. There's a good word, by the implications of the phenomena. Well, you let your imagination run. Around the same time, an FBI was following this entire development in the Southwest LOC and was reporting on it as well. And this is a long, long memo. It's a couple of pages long. It gives a lot ofdescription of objects moving in multiple thousands of miles per hour at high altitude, great maneuverability. Again, in 1949. Here's just a statement where it says, This matter is considered top secret, top secret, by intelligence officers of both the army and the Air Force ORG. Or Air Forces ORG. Back then they sometimes pluralized it.So again, you get the idea that's very, very significant. This is a, oh yeah, this is a good interesting memo as well. This is an army memo describing some crazy shenanigans over the Hanford Atomic Energy Commission ORG site. So Hanford, instead of Washington, that was the first place in the world where they were processing plutonium. Ever. Highly toxic.Lots of nuclear waste. There's a mess. But this is another place where there was tremendous UFO activity. And these people, no one knew what to do about it. So this is what it says. Since July 30th, objects, round and form, have been cited over the Hanford AEC ORG plant. These objects were above 15,000 feet in altitude. Listen to this part. Air Force jets attempted interception with negative results. All units, including the anti-aircraft battalion, radar units, Air Force fighter squadrons.And the FBI ORG have been alerted for further observation. The Atomic Energy Commission states that the investigation is continuing and complete details will be forwarded later. Wow. Fighter Squadrons. Can you imagine if that memo had gotten released accidentally or intentionally in 1915? Of course, all of these were classified. No one knew about them. And by the way, that last statement, the investigation is continuing in further details will be forwarded. Well, we don't have any of that. It just shows that, you know, freedom of informationis nice, but it's not a magic bullet. And there's a lot of documents that we've never gotten and probably will never ever get. They're probably all destroyed. But yes, quite significant. And quite concerning for those people running the show. This is a statement from my personal favorite document to quote probably in all of the UFO literature. This is a CIA document. It was written to the director of the CIA ORG by his assistant director of scientific intelligence and named H. Marshall Chadwell. So we're talking December 1952 after a big, big yearof absolutely just shocking UFO sightings. Civilian military, it was just an incredible year. And this is what Chadwell says to his boss, CIA director Walter Beetle Smith PERSON. He says at this time, reports of incidents convince us that there is something going on that must have immediate attention. Sightings of unexplained objects at great altitudes and traveling at high speeds in the vicinity of major U.S. GPE defense installations are of such nature that they are not attributable to natural phenomena or known types of aerial vehicles. What else is he going to say? Boss, I think we're being invaded. I mean, it's pretty much putting it right out there. And these are extreme levels of concern. You can see, and this is just a smattering of the FOIA LAW documentation that has come down to us. And by the way, I'll just point out, you know, when these documents were crafted back in those years.None of the authors of these documents had any idea of expectation that they would one day be in the public domain. The only reason that they did is because we had the Freedom of Information Act LAW past years later. It was originally passed in 1966, but without the teeth that it needed for us. So it really got those teeth at the very end of Richard Nixon's PERSON presidency, right, before he went out.Watergate, of course, took them down. But at the very end, Congress, Nixon PERSON signed it, strengthened the Freedom of Information Act. And what happened as a result of that was simply, I don't think they expected this. But UFO researchers went charging full speed ahead. They were out in front of everyone else doing FOIA requests in the 70s. That's the truth. And thousands and thousands of pages of documents, it's like, shake the tree and see what falls out.And a lot of documents came out. And this was one of the ones that we've, I've just showed you, or some of them, but there's many others. So I want to talk about a little bit more of the ones that we've, I've just showed you, or some of them, but there's many others. So I want to talk about a little bit more of the history before we get into the present moment. And this is one of my personal UFO heroes. That's Leonard Stringfield PERSON.I never had the pleasure to meet Leonard Stringfield PERSON. He died in 1994. Just so now I was getting started in researching this subject, but he was an amazing, amazing human being. And we are all lucky to have had him. Why? Because it was Leonard Stringfield, more than anybody else, even more than Stanton Friedman PERSON,who was very important, but Stringfield ORG, more than anyone who opened up the entire subject of acquired exotic, i.e. alien technology. And actually, before I get into it, I'll just explain. It's a Stringfield ORG, who? A little dizzy there. Stringfield ORG was, let's see, let's talk about him. He was in the Second World War EVENT.In fact, he had a UFO sighting at the end of the Second World War in the Pacific LOC. That was kind of interesting. He was a UFO investigator going back to the 1950s, but he really hit his stride in the 1970s and 80s. He lived in Cincinnati, Ohio, not too far from Air Force headquarters in Dayton GPE. So Stringfield ORG was the perfect person to do what he did. He was in the right location.He had the military backgrounds. The military people trusted him to a large extent. He was just a decent human being. He was very likable, and he was very meticulous. He had obvious integrity. And so people started to come to him, and he was very meticulous. He had obvious integrity. And so people started to come to him, but they started to do that because in 1976, we had a presidential candidate named Jimmy Carter PERSON. And Jimmy Carter was unique in that he was the firstpresidential candidate to admit that he'd seen the UFO. It was very shocking at the time, and he was governor of Georgia back in 1969 with a group of people, and they saw something. It was quite unusual. And Carter PERSON, by the way, he's never stated. I know it was an alien craft. He's never given an opinion on that. But it was interesting, and he even filed a report to NICAP ORG, the UFO group. So because of that, a number of people got kind of excited. And Carter PERSON was asked, at one point, when he was running, will you open up the UFO files? And Carter PERSON's answer was,well, yes. I mean, as long as it doesn't harm national security, but I will do everything that I can. And that was kind of an amazing thing to hear at that time. And so there was this hope among many people that Jimmy Carter PERSON would be the disclosure president. Not that anyone was using that term back then. They weren't, but that's really what they were hoping for. So in that context, Stringfield wrote a book in which he had one sliver of the book toward the end where he talked about something UFO researchers never did. Well, hardly ever did, which was a couple of interesting crash retrieval events.And he put it in there. And because of that, and because of the Carter phenomenon, Stringfield ORG started getting people coming up to him. With the expectation that, well, the president's going to come out and make an announcement sometime, so we're just going to tell you what we know. And he collected five, and then ten, and then twenty, and then like a hundred differentaccounts or more of different aspects of UFO crash retrieval. Stringfield ORG was like this amazing clearinghouse of these events, of these stories. And this is just some. This is a small amount. I'm not even going to read through these, but the basic pattern is, you know, one person would say, yeah, I did a security detail at Wright Patterson back in 1966, whatever. And I, for a briefperiod, I had to guard nine bodies that sure looked like tiny little aliens. Or maybe a wife would say, yes, when my husband was alive, he told me about this particular crash retrieval event that he had known about. Or someone else would come up and there were a lot of people doing security details that came to Stringfield. One PRODUCT guy actually came up with an early version of almost what you could say an alien autopsy thing. Wasn't an autopsy, but he had worked at Fort Monmouth, New Jersey in 1953. He came up to Stringfield ORG, said, yeah, back then I was, I was pulled into a military theater,and I had to sit down and I watched this film where there's like this desert scene, and there's a tent, and there's all these people running around and inside the tent are these dead aliens. And we're watching this for a little while, and the lights in the movie theater went up, and we all told to get out. Two weeks later, an officer came up to me on the base and said that film you saw, forget it, it was a hoax. And this guy never knew what that was about.Strange. I wonder if he failed a recruitment. You know, you really wonder. I mean, if you're running a UFO retrieval program, you're looking for new people, you may have to examine them and see how they react to extreme situations and information. Maybe this guy failed the test. In any case, lots and lots and lots of these stories, and Stringfield ORG just collected them all. I'm going to tell you detail on two of them. This is one.The Blue Room. The rumors of the Blue Room at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, but this wasn't at Wright-Path FAC. I don't know where this was. Somewhere in the Southwest. So, the story is Stringfield ORG, and he had a very good source on this. He wrote, he was very confident of this source. So, okay. When he learned of that, there was a military guy with high scientific qualifications who was told, get into this airplane, where taking you somewhere, gets a hood put on his head. All these other guys, they'll have hoodsput on their faces. They can't see where they're going. They're let out. They go there. It's hot desert sand. He could make that part out. And they're being brought into a large, very large hangar. They take the hoods off there inside, and everything inside the hangar is painted blue, like the walls, the floors, ceiling. Everything is blue. And there's tables and cabinets, shelves everywhere. And on the shelves in such are artifacts, which are not blue. I think they probably painted the room blue, so you could just not lose anything. Like,everything's easily visible. Anyway, thousands of artifacts, very exotic, and they were told, you know, just read this. This is string field writing. They were to study each object and determine its purpose, operating parameters, and whether or not it could be duplicated. So this guy is conversing with the curator, I guess we could say, of this hangar. And he and a few other gentlemenare brought to a back room where there are four tanks, like huge aquarium tanks, with this pink liquid, and in the liquid, suspended alien beings. Small, look like gray aliens. This is what he said. That's his story. Now, I mean, we were not there to get this story, but Stringfield ORG found it credible. It's just, you know, another drop in the bucket. Throw it in the pile. The other one I just want to mention for Stringfield ORG is his account of Dr. X.So one of Stringfield ORG's people was a doctor who worked at a large medical establishment on the east coast of the United States GPE. And he got to know this guy pretty well, in person, in fact, including at the man's place of work. This is a very good relationship that Leonard Stringfield PERSON had with this man. And he obviously knew his name and so forth, but he called him Dr. X to protect his identity. And this doctor told Stringfield ORG that he had performed autopsies or autopsy-like procedures on alien bodies. And he wrote a report and he summarized the physiology of these beings, describing them almost exactly.As you would describe a gray alien. About four feet tall, very lightweight, big heads, and so forth. Heavy brow ridges One PRODUCT thing that doesn't quite stand out when you think of a gray alien, but I don't know what to make of that. But there have been variations that have been described of alien beingsand not all exact identical grays. And there are variations, and that's what this doctor apparently saw. No reproductive organs. He suspected they were at Android PRODUCT's artificial creations of some sort or another. And then actually after Stringfield ORG and his doctor got to know each other a bit, the doctor broke off all communication.And just as last thing the Stringfield ORG was, he said, can't talk to you anymore. The higher-ups found that, but I'm discussing this with you, and I got my knuckles smacked. Basically, some disciplinary action, and he had to stop. So, there you go. Yes, this is, if you really want to read an amazing, amazing UFO publication, that is Leonard Stringfield's seven collected status reports. That's what he called them.You know, when he was writing these back in the 70s and 80s and the early 90s, I think there's almost no circulation. The tiny little move-on UFO community may probably sold a couple of hundred copies of each one of these. They're incredible. So someone put them all together as a bigfat book. It's almost 400 pages, eight and a half by 11. It's very large. It's 80 dollars on Amazon ORG. It's not cheap, but I will tell you, if you are actually interested in this information, it is absolutely worth every penny. It's not available as an e-book. Unfortunately, it would be nice, but it is a big paperback, and I can tell you I've gone through it over and over and over again. It's incredible. And I'm glad that someone put that all together. So, okay, I'm not going to do any more history.What we can say, though, of that 70-year period that I was talking about up to 2017 is, you know, we can, what did UFO researchers conclude it? Generally speaking about this subject. Well, I would say the conclusion is it's real and they're here. Whoever they are is, we can get into that. We can say that there were countless large numbers of military engagements throughout the decades,and not just the United States GPE. Every nation. Every nation with significant military has had these encounters all over the world. And even more well-attested, well-documented accounts by ordinary people. And many of them were incredibly well-documented accounts by ordinary people. And many of them were incredibly well-documented. Slam dunk cases. Many of them. We can also say that there were crash retrievals, and let's say other types of acquisition of UFO tech,because they may not necessarily evolve and crash retrievals. It's not necessarily clear. You get hints every now and then that there were other methods of acquiring these things, and I don't know the exact specifics, but it's a possibility. We can definitely say, and there's been myself among other people have looked into the secrecy around this, and certainly we can say that it was massive and deep. Labyrinthian is a word I like to use to describe it certainly we can say that it was massive and deep. Labyrinthian, is a word I like to use to describe it.We can say that there have been abductions. Yes, I think absolutely we can say that, as well as other forms of encounters with these beings. We can say that whoever they are, they're everywhere. They are everywhere. And this is again something that I don't hear a lot about in the UFO research field. In other words, no one seems to care about citing reports anymore.Everyone's like, ah, you know, we've been there and done that. Yeah, we know that they're here. Who needs to look at citing reports? Well, here's where you've got to look at sighting reports, because if you study them, here's one thing you learn. You learn that there are thousands upon thousands of pretty decent sightings recorded every single year around the world, and in your neighborhood, probably over your house at two or three in the morning. You taking a selfie here.Look at the shameless. So have you no shame. That was fun. That was a line, by the way, I took from the McCarthy PERSON hearings. If any of you are onto that, that was the line that took Senator Joe McCarthy PERSON down. Have you no shame, sir? So where was I? Oh, yeah, yeah. So, like, here's the thing that blows my mind when I think about these sightings. They're over your house. Your house. At three in the morning. You know, you go to the National UFO Reporting Center, you can read the reports there. One PRODUCT place thatis still going are Filerler's ORG, Files. George Filer PERSON, God bless that man. We still have him, and he still puts out these incredible summations and reports of UFO activity. He's a great guy. Anyway, you can find, like, people will report the same thing over and over. It's two in the morning, could sleep.I go outside, have a cigarette. I'm looking at the stars, and I see this low black triangle. Not always a triangle. Saucer-shaped object, whatever. 500 feet over the houses, just gliding. Almost couldn't see it.Like, what is that? You go through this, and you see this many times. Someone is skulking about around the world. This isn't just, you know, you're not your stacer in North America LOC. It's everywhere. So what is that?Who's doing that? Is that a black budget classified special access program? Well, if so, they're doing a worldwide operation over your house. And I don't know anything about that. But clearly, it indicates to me that we're talking big infrastructure, lots of money. Or the equivalent of money, and serious intent, and also an extreme commitmentto secrecy, and clandestine activity. And I just, there's only one thing that I may be personally to think about what they could be doing at three in the morning over your house, which is an abduction. I can't think of anything else. Going over residential neighborhoods. Well, I mean, they're doing other things than that, but that's one thing that they're doing, seemingly all the time. That's another thing I think researchers are. And then the last thing I have on this list is, is a breakaway science or breakaway civilization. And that's a phrase that I coined in one of mybooks over a decade ago. And just a theory that I worked in one of my books over a decade ago. And just a theory that I worked out of extreme levels of secrecy, what happens if you've got a classified program that's got some scientific breakthroughs? And you don't want to share the breakthroughs with the rest of the world? Well, you wouldn't stop your scientists from continuing on with that if they've developed some kind of anti-grab or some kind of new energy system or some other exotic world-shaking, world-changing technology. You're not just going tolet that loose. No way. You're also going to have your scientists in the classified world continue that, and they eventually end up developing their own cosmology, perhaps. And maybe their own replicas that can take them off world and learn things that the rest of us, poor slob. Stuff down on the planet, are never going to get a chance to learn unless we find a way out. So anyway, this list, I don't know, there's more that I could add in here, but I would say that at least in the UFO research field. Through 2017, through today, really, these are some pretty good conclusions that I thinkare generally well agreed on. And all that time, all that time, all of those conclusions were ignored, completely ignored, by the establishment-controlled culture. Establishment-controlled media. You couldn't have a conversation about this with any level of maturity or sophistication because you just get shut down. And yet thisunbelievable discrepancy existed. You talk about signs of a sick society. You know, you have the most important thing going on. Like, what's more important than the arrival of some intelligence that so far beyond anything we're supposed to have, and you can't talk about it? And furthermore, people would experience this usually on their own, totally isolated because, you know, I have ridicule. And so now you experience this either trauma or sometimes elation or whatever it is, the most amazing thing you ever see in yourlife. And you talk about this too. No one, much of the time, or maybe a couple of friends. And one of the typical things you find with UFO sightings is people have these extraordinary events happening to them. And they don't talk about it, and they just tuck it away in the little back of their mind. And they forget about it themselves sometimes because they don't talk about it, and they just tuck it away in the little back of their mind. And they forget about it themselves sometimes because they don't have to process it. Because it just like blows their paradigm, their reality, right out of the water.That's a trauma to me. Like, that's bad for us. And it's also bad because when you have this incredible thing happening, I think the worst way to deal with it is everyone's in their own little private Idaho GPE that can't talk to each other were atomized. That's not a good way to do this, it seems to me. But we have an official culture that is so tightly controlled that we were not able to do it.But in 2017, it seemed, it seems, that, well, let's call it a breakthrough. Certainly a significant change. And that was, of course, December 16th, 2017. And you get two articles in the New York Times, which is, you know, the Pravda of the United States GPE. Like the official mouthpiece of the established powers of the B. They put out two actually decent, like, not embarrassing articles on UFOs. And, of course, one in Politico by Brian Bender PERSON.And those three articles came out and what did they do? They said to the world, yeah, actually the Pentagon ORG did have a UFO study program quite recently called A-Tip. And all of us in the UFO field were like, what? I mean, we were partly elated and feeling vindicated. And partly, I think we were just annoyed at, you know, being lied to for all those years.But at least the lie came out. I mean, honestly, A-Tip PRODUCT is aptly named the acronym ZAP, because it's the tip of a massive iceberg, of course. I mean, they're talking about, yeah, we spent $22 million on A-Tip for those years. That's like, probably the Pentagon spent more money on coffee than $22 million. Anyway, it was nice to know that they did that, and it was an admission. It was an important admission. And then the other article that came outat that time, of course, was the Tick-Tac encounter. And we learned about Commander David Traver and that extraordinary event, and it is extraordinary. You know, it's not the most extraordinary UFO encounter, actually, but it's a good one, and it's very well attested. So it's definitely now, we could say, historically strong UFO encounter. So that was the breakthrough. And so what I want to run by you here is that since the end of 2017, we have had, in the last three and a half years. An extraordinary number of, like, headline bombshells relating to UFOs that we'd never had.Anything like this before 2017. And now we had, like, there's like 20 of them here, basically. So, you know, starting in October 2017, you got the TTSA Press Conference EVENT. I really kicked the whole thing off. And that was quite significant. Yeah, they had the Mylar balloon thing, they made their mistakes, but you have a significant group of individuals. Very impressive backgrounds. They went on the record, and no one said the word UFO,but it was all about UFOs. No one was saying, oh, UFOs are real, but what they were saying is UFOs are real. That was a TTA ORG press conference. And as a result of that, you get Leslie Kane and Ralph Blumenthal and Helene Cooper for the New York Times doing the articles two months later. My take on that is really all Leslie and Ralph PERSON. I'll talk about that in a minute. But they put their articles out, then you get the release of the 38 titles of the scientific papers from the A-DIP program.That's all how PUDOFF ORG, that's a fascinating thing. Not ever let time to get into it here. And then all these other PUDOFF talking on the metamaterial in June of 2018, oh, God, that was unbelievable. If you're not familiar with that, look it up on Vimeo ORG. It's a heck of a lecture. How was shocked that it was on Vimeo ORG? I think I told him. He's like, oh, wow.What do you do? So there was this artifact that's called the Metamaterial. And it's kind of amazing. Came to Art Bell many years ago in the 90s. Linda Moulton PERSON, how curated it for a long time. She sent it out to different people, including how P. Ud OFF PERSON and others.And they studied it. And what he was saying at this lecture was, this thing is manufactured in a way that we have no idea how anyone could have done it. You're talking nano-level layers of bismuth and magnesium in such a way. He said, you know, when we first looked at this, we had no idea what this could even You're talking nano-level layers of bismuth and magnesium in such a way. He said, you know, when we first looked at this, we had no idea what this could even be for. And he said, but, you know, time passes and we kind of figured a few things out.And he described it as, I don't know what you say, as a highly effective wave guide for high-frequency radiation, electromagnetic radiation, terrahertz range, I think he said. And I was like, what the hell does that mean? How to look it up? So a wave guide means like a canal is a wave guide for water.So this is a wave guide for high-frequency radiation. I think light, maybe I'm getting it wrong. Then I listened to a lecture by, or interview, by Jack Sarfati PERSON, who's kind of a crazy genius in my opinion. And he's talking about this metamaterial and his take on it was quite interesting in my opinion. And he said, yeah, what I think is that this, the lattice-like structure in the metamaterial, which no one knows howto manufacture yet, because we don't have the capability. We don't. We don't. We're not down at the, we're not down at the Engstrom LOC level when we make these things. But anyway, he said, what I think that this does is it slows the speed of light down. And I couldn't explain the math that crunched the numbers for you and tell you why, but that's his opinion. And I couldn't explain the math that crunched the numbers for you and tell you why, but that's his opinion. And so if you slow the speed of light down, then you're changing all the equations of the amount of energy necessary to soften the space-timebubble around the craft. So what he, I think he was saying, is that this material, the skin of the craft, can make it much easier for you to, to create a kind of spacetime bubble around you. So that, well, that's, that's what you get, you know, the warp field equations from. You know, Miguel Acubier 30 years ago came up with the math for warp speed, like on Star Trek WORK_OF_ART. The only problem is to create that space time bubble, the amount of energy neededto be like more energy than exists. It's too much. But if you change the equation, you slow light down, according to Sarfati, he said, yeah, maybe a AAA PRODUCT battery would be enough energy to do that. You know, anyway, I'm getting off track here. All the bombshells, all of this stuff is just amazing. New York Times comes out in May 2019 with another article by Leslie and Ralph on the USS Roosevelt PRODUCT. That's heavy duty. That's there, I think their best article that they did for the Times ORG, that's my opinion.Navy makes an admission saying, yeah, we do get these UAP, these UFOs, and we've just updated our guidelines for dealing with them. Can you imagine if that had been said 10 years ago or 20 years ago, world would be flipping out? We would have something change. We're not flipping out. I mean, it's interesting. And then Elizondo goes on Tucker Carlson on May 31st, 2019. That just blew my mind. You know, Carlson PERSON at the end says, have we gotten any of these craft at all?And Elizondo is at first saying, well, you know, Tucker PERSON, my NDAs prevent me from saying anything. Pause. But, yes. End of interview. What? He just said there were crash retrievals and acquired exotic tech on national TV.And no one said anything about it after the fact. Like, my God, let's talk about a bombshell. A week after that, the Wilson Davis PERSON notes leaked out. I was part of that whole thing. And yes, it is criminal negligence by the rest of the UFO community that they do not examine these documents the way they show. Absolutely. I can't understand it. Some of you don't know what I'm talking about. So very, very, very, very brief summary. Back in 1997, Stephen Greer was making rounds in Washington, D.C. He had Dr. Edgar Mitchell with him. Navy Commander Will Miller PERSON and other people. And he's talking to anyone, I think, who's willing to listen aboutdeep black special access programs in which alien tech was being reverse engineered. And he had information about it. Turns out he was dead right. He was absolutely right. So they had a meeting with the Deputy Chief of Intelligence for the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Thomas Ray Wilson PERSON. They actually get to meet with him. And Wilson's boss, too, was there. And they're all in the meeting and Greer PERSON does his thing. And at the end of the meeting, Wilson PERSON says, you know, I'm going to look into this. I'm going to see if there is a program. And then they all go home.And Mitchell PERSON, he's the key in this, in my opinion, Will Miller and Mitchell. So Wilson spends the next two months knocking on doors, going through files. And he finds not one, but four, for special access programs that seem to deal with ET Tech ORG reverse engineering. He finds one of them and talks to the three gatekeepers, as he called them, in charge of the program. And he's theprogram manager, the security manager, and the corporate attorney. Because it's not DOD ORG now. We're in private corporation. Probably Lockheed. No one's confirmed it. And Wilson PERSON's like, I need to be involved in this. It is your mistake that you're not allowing me to have oversight over your blah, blah, blah, blah, and they're like, sure, fine, whatever. Yes, we're trying to reverse engineer a craft. Not from here. We've made very little progress. You're not in. Don't try. Don't even think about it. And Wilson PERSON's like, oh, yeah, well, I'm going to get in.You just wait and see. They're like, sure. Knock yourself out. He goes back to Washington GPE, starts complaining up the chain of command, and he's immediately threatened with his career. And he's angry. He's furious. But what can he do? So five years later, he's retired. In the meantime, Edgar Mitchell got word of Wilson PERSON's being shut out, and he talks to his buddies, which I affectionately called the Bigelow Club ORG. All around Robert Bigelow in the National Institute of Defense, National Institute of Discovery Science, back in the late 90s, early 2000s.So you've got Robert Bigelow PERSON. You've got Hal Puthoff PERSON. You've got Kid Green PERSON. You've got John Alexander PERSON. You've got John Alexander. You've got Jack Valais PERSON part of that whole group. You've got Eric Davis, Kam Kalerher PERSON, and so forth.And Mitchell PERSON got word of the city, tells him. He said, yeah, Wilson PERSON got denied. Wow, amazing. Because that whole group of people, like, now I know this now. This is my own figuring this out. They are a brilliant group of people with various security clearances, and with a fascinationto the point of obsession at times about UFOs. All of them, every one of them, because they all know it's real. They all know it's important. And they all want to get to the center of the labyrinth. And so what they do, what they would do is share what they know with each other in a secure way, in a way that's not violating. You know, their own security clearances. But so they all did. So Mitchell comes back. He gives a report on Wilson PERSON.And when Wilson retires five years later, they send one of their own, Dr. Eric Davis PERSON. To go off and interview Wilson PERSON and get the real scoop. And Davis met with Wilson PERSON and hit a home run interview. And took 13 pages of detailed notes, and Wilson PERSON just unloaded. Not enough, Wilson PERSON, I'm sure, did not tell everything. Davis asked a lot of questions, and Wilson PERSON just said, nope, can't tell you a core secret.What was the company? Can't tell you a core secret. A core secret means if you give that up, that's like catastrophic failure. You can't do that. But Wilson PERSON told him enough, and it's quite upfront. And how do I know this is real? Well, I know it's real, because in 2006 I was shown several pages of those by one of the peoplein that club. And I've never given up the man's name, and I won't. I begged him when they leaked out in 2019, like, can I please mention the fact that it was you who showed me these? And he said, I'd rather you not. So I'm not going to. That's fine. I was disappointed for a while, but it's okay. Meanwhile, you got a lot of loudmouth people out there saying,it's fake. It's a sci-up. It's like the majestic documents. No. It's real. It's absolutely real. And by the way, a number of prominent researchers and like have said to me privately. Oh, yeah, I've seen them too. I saw them years ago. Like, everyone knows they're real. But like, these people cannot possibly admit it,because if they did, they blow their security clearances, and bad things happen. One PRODUCT way or another. They just can't do it. And so here we are. But you, as a researcher, should know better. And so here we are.But you, as a researcher, should know better. And by the way, when you study those documents, they are among the best things that we have actually to help us navigate that structure of secrecy. Because there's a lot of bureaucratic stuff in there that's actually very useful and some good names to go by as well. There's, there are research leads that are in there.And I talked with some of the researchers, and were trying to go through those leads. Anyway, that leaked. And then all these other things that leaked during 2019, 2020, 2020, it's like amazing. Another New York Times article in July of 2020. That was a good one. That took us, again, Leslie and Ralph PERSON, right to the edge of crash retrievals. You get a statement by Eric Davis in that article, and a statement by Harry Reid PERSON in that article. Harry Reid had to walk it back in a tweet. Harry Reid is almost like our new version of Buzz Aldrin PERSON.He says like these amazing things. And then the handlers come in the next day and say, Sir, you've got to like, you better, you have to issue a denial of that. And Harry Reid PERSON issues a tweet saying, No, no, I, I didn't mean to say that there's definitely crash retrievals. What was I thinking? In the New Yorker article in May 2021, this year, same thing with Harry Reid PERSON.He's talking about Lockheed ORG and getting, you know, denied access to the Lockheed Special Access Program. If you read that article, very interesting article in the New Yorker ORG. And then the next day or day after that, he's read tweets again. He says, no, no, I didn't say that I think it's Lockheed ORG. I don't think so. Other people may think that.Not me. It's like, okay, I'm sure the New Yorker ORG journalists really screwed that one up. But, okay, whatever. And then the last bit of news is just a lesson a week ago, I guess. Yeah, about a week ago. New York Times ORG again.Actually, the New York Times did two more articles on UFOs. These were very, very tepid and I would say below average. Now we're getting back to the standard level of the New York Times. And why? Because these are not by Leslie Kane PERSON and Ralph Blumenthal. That's why. So this is by Helene Cooper and Julian Brown PERSON. What an embarrassing article. This one was. And there was another one that did the same day that was actually even worse. But in this article, a couple of times the authors explicitlystate, well, UFO doesn't necessarily mean alien. Okay, yeah, we get that. And then the other article from the New York Times that day was even worse. It was like, here's a little history of UFOs. We're not going to talk about cratchitrievels or Roswell GPE. We're not going to talk about Project Blue Book other than just passing over it. It was just awful article.And that leads me to my conclusions here. You know, what we've had in the last three and a half years since all of this has happened, no one really knows what to make of these revelations. No one, everyone argues in our community over what's TTSA ORG. Are they a CIA SIEP or are they military, intelligent SIPP ORG doing a false flag? You hear that a lot.And some people even will talk about the famed project Blue Beam PRODUCT in connection with all of this. So Blue Beam, if you don't know, that actually was originated as an idea in 1994. And as a fake alien invasion, scare the hell out of you type of thing, you go run into Papa. That is a national security state for protection. And they'll do a totalitarian lockdown in exchange for protecting you from the aliens. That was supposed to be the blue beam. Holographic display. And of course, what you should know is that blue beam originated primarily as an evangelical Christian idea. So it would be a second coming of Christin the Western countries. And then there'd be holographic displays of other religious figures and other nations. Like how on God's name are you going to do that? I have no idea. Fake archaeological finds were supposed to be discovered that would throw people off from the true faith. And yes, aliens as well. That was all in the mix. The guy who came up with this was a French Canadian from Quebec named Serge Monast. And I don't even think he spoke English LANGUAGE, but he had a connection at NASA. He said that NASA and the UN ORG were plotting to do this all before Y2K in2000. I mean, if you have a Red Monast PERSON, and I did this for you so you don't have to, but he, I'm just going to say he wasn't all there. It just is like unhinged, my opinion. But anyway, so Blue Beam PRODUCT didn't happen. And then it morphed into an alien invasion scenario in the 21st century.And even back in 2010, there was supposed to be a blue beam event. And unlike rolling my eyes telling people, it's not going to happen. It's not going to happen. And now you're hearing it again. A lot of people talk about it. Anyway, back to the revelations.False flags, siap, what's happening? It's very, very common to hear people say that all the information coming out, courtesy of people like Lou Elizondo, Christopher Mellon PERSON, and the like is a siop in one way or another. Well, let me get into the false flag thing first because people like to use that word. And so happens that false flags are a very strong interest of mine. I nearly wrote a book on the history of false flags.I did write a TV series for Gaia on the history of false flags a couple of years ago. My producer for that should be in the audience, Sid Goldberg PERSON. I love Sid PERSON. I gave Sid PERSON a lot of hell for things. That wasn't his fault. I just threw a lot of hissy fits during that.But anyway, Sid PERSON stood by me. And so we did that. And I'm very engaged in studying false flags. And I happen to think that we live in an era of false flags. And I've developed my own theory about false flags, like my own modology of them. And I think I'm right.Anyway, one of the things about false flags is you have to dominate the media. And you have to have a coordinated media response, like swift, powerful, unified media response to get an immediate reaction out of you so that you allow the government to do something that they couldn't ordinarily have done. Whether it's past pernicious laws to take your freedoms away or maybe invade that country over there because we want to do that and we need a justification. In other words, the media response has to be coordinated. It's got to be powerful. It's got to be in your face.Well, we get none of that with us. We get none of that. There's no coordination going on here with this message. People say, well, there's a threat narrative. Elizondo PERSON keeps talking about a threat narrative. He's trying to scare the public.Let's just stop and talk about that. Seriously. I showed you some documents earlier about the perturbing nature of these objects. Now it's true. There was no Independence Day scenario. These objects weren't blowing up the White House FAC.They weren't using lasers necessarily to shoot our aircraft out of the skies, although there's a lot of provocation. When you go through the history of UFO encounters with militaries around the world and also commercial aviation. Let's not forget that. There's a lot of close encounters and dangerous events going on. It doesn't mean that they're hostile. But if you're a military person and if you are responsible for the security of a sensitive base, for example,and unknown objects are hanging out over your base, objects that don't look normal, that don't act in any conventional way that are extraordinary. You're going to be concerned about it and you would be criminally negligent if you did not consider it a potential threat, because that is your job. Unless you don't think that the military has a right to defend your nation or defend their airspace. Then I don't see what the argument is to say that it's unfair to talk about a potential threat, because it is a potential threat.That's the reality. It doesn't mean that they're necessarily actively out to harm us. I mean, after all, they're hanging out over at the Nahanford Atomic Energy Plant. Yeah, that was a huge toxic boondoggle. People in 1950 probably had no idea how bad it was going to be, and probably aliens would. So they may have been concerned, fair enough. Nevertheless, it is legitimate, I would say. To at least consider that these are a potential threat, and I think otherwise it's justfull-hearty silliness. So there's that. The other thing about potential threat, I would just say, is, you know, look, you're trying to talk to dumb, dumb Congress ORG, dumb, dumb, media, lazy, ignorant people who really just don't care about any of this stuff. How are you going to get their attention? Like, honestly. Well, maybe you have to shake them by the shoulders and wake them up and say, you know,there's a potential threat here, which is actually a legit thing to say. So what I did in my first two volumes of history, UFOs in national security state, I don't think I did anything different, frankly. You point out that this is a serious matter, and that's exactly what they did. So I don't consider the threat narrative a valid argument to say that this is a Cyobraphouse flag to make you justify greater military expenditures.Which, by the way, none of that is, none of the UFO stuff, to my knowledge, has been a significant impact on military spending. Maybe in the future it will, could happen, but so far it's been three and a half years. I don't see anyone running around scared either, by the way. I don't see a frightened public. In fact, I see the opposite. The primary media message is not threat. Once in a while, Elizondo, particularly Lou Elizondo PERSON, will mention that.But you really don't get a threat narrative coming out of the media. It's not happening. And this last New York Times ORG piece, absolutely they play it down. So if they're trying to ramp this up, they're doing a pretty bad job at it, I would say. And there's not coordination either. So like between, say, the New York Times and Fox ORG.So over at Fox they got really one guy, Tucker Carlson PERSON, who seems to have an interest in this. And he actually asks, I mean for major corporate media, relatively decent questions. Got to give the guy credit on that. He's actually at least going in and trying to get to this. But there's no one else in the major television media that I recognize is actually even a fraction of the way that far down the road. And the New York Times, by the way, this is the last thing I'll say this before moving on. When the New York Times first did their few articles back in 2017, like a lot of us were wondering. Like what's actually going on? Because we're all used to knowing that the New YorkTimes is the premier source of fake news. Everyone talks about fake news. No one's better than maybe CNN ORG. All right, I don't get political here. But let's say New York Times ORG. That's a safe bet. New York Times ORG has measurably given out fake news that's resulting to deaths of hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of people. You've got, you know, weapons of mass destruction. And by the way, the New York Times is very complicit in the false flag anthrax scare. And yes, I will say that was an absolute false flag.New York Times ORG was absolutely on board with that nonsense. So no, all of a sudden the New York Times is now doing something decent on UFOs. Well, no, a lot of us were inclined to wonder what's going on. But what I believe now is that there is one and only one reason that the New York Times ORG did anything halfway decent on UFOs. Actually, two reasons.And those reasons were called Leslie Kane and Ralph Blumenthal PERSON. Those are the two reasons. And I believe that Leslie and Ralph PERSON fought their way to get those articles published. And I know they had resistance. Why else in the first article where they're talking about, I forget it was the A-Tip or the Tick-Tac article? But they bring in James Oberg, one of the most prominent skeptic debunkers.And they bring in a completely irrelevant, useless quote by Oberg 2, why? There's no point. Does anyone really think Leslie or Ralph PERSON wanted that in there? They're both UFO believers. We all know that. There's no reason that they would do that. They had to. Because they had to fight an ultra-conservative establishment in that organization. They had to do it. But they were able to get some very good articles in the Times ORG.I mean, by corporate mainstream standards, of course. And when they were not the authors, the New York Times reverts back to its substandard, less than mediocre levels. Which is really where they're most comfortable. So I think that's the story. So what I'm saying to you is that we're dealing with a situation where there are two forces at work.In what we're dealing with right now, one force seems to be doing what it feels it can to promote a greater openness on UFOs. I don't know about disclosure, full disclosure. I doubt it. But more openness on UFOs. I don't know about disclosure, full disclosure. I doubt it. But more openness on UFOs than we have had hitherto. There's a fancy $10 word.And then the other force, I'm going to talk about that too. It's a force leading toward greater global secrecy on UFOs. And let's say 24 to 7 global totalitarian conformity. Those are the two forces. And they are at odds with each other. Let's talk about force number one.The faction within the establishment. There's Robert Bigelow PERSON. Leader of the club. I never talk with him. I would love to talk with this man. I have to say. So what I believe, this is my take.Some of you will disagree. I have no doubt. It's fine. I don't get offended. Saying to someone earlier, like, you have to work really, really hard to get me mad at you. Or offended.I don't get personal bad at any of this stuff. I think it's a bad idea, by the way, for people to get personal in this field. And it happens all too much. But faction, force number one, is a faction. And I think the members of the core group, let's just throw the names out there. You got Bigelow, you got Harry Reid PERSON, you got how put off, you gotEric Davis, Lou Alizondo, Christopher Mellon, Tom DeLong, George Knapp, Leslie Kane, Ralph Blumenthal PERSON. There's others, but it's probably the big ones. We should put Danny Sheehan in there. Now there's Danny PERSON. He belongs in there. He does. He does.He belongs in there. And this group has allies. Yes, they do, within the Pentagon ORG and beyond. Tucker Carlson at Fox ORG. He's an ally. There's some UFO researchers who are allies.And there's a lot of other, there's lower-level media to some prominent YouTube ORG personalities. And like semi-establishment news organizations. Over at Rising on the Hill, you've got Sager and Jetty PERSON, a Sager and Jetty, who is a young journalist. Very kind of mainstream political. He's into it. He follows the UFO news, and they bring in this to a broader public.So there's definitely people, you got Rogan PERSON. You've got a number of other people who are Lex Friedman PERSON over on his big YouTube channel. He talks about these things. So there's like a kind of other people who are Lex Friedman PERSON over on his big YouTube channel. He talks about these things. So there's like a kind of just below the big biggest, but some of these people are bigger than the corporate establishment anyway. They have more followers. But there are also enemies to this faction.That's the real establishment. They're the enemies. They're not the same as the faction. So who's the core public group? I say public. The people that we can see.Well, the Pentagon ORG PR desk, they're an enemy. That's for sure. New York Times ORG, other than Leslie and Ralph, when they're not involved, New York Times is part of that establishment. And most of the rest of major media is part of that. And there are some UFO researchers who very loudly proclaim their enmity to all thingshaving to do with this faction. And then behind the scenes, the factions, the enemies are even stronger, because that's everyone associated with any of the special access programs. Private contractors involved in this, you know, the big corporations. And yeah, probably most of the senior members of the Pentagon ORG, I mean, these people don't, they don't like to give up secrets ever, like ever. It's against their DNA. And they are notfriendly to this stuff. And I know that the man who was very successful in this group, and I know this because, and I will release this sometime soon. But a very close friend of mine, an associate of mine, had a very extended correspondence with Mark McCandlish PERSON, which I have. And it's quite fascinating. He was terrified of the private contractors, particularly, who he believed were not averse to killing problematic individuals. Anyway, be that as it may, the real establishment, they are not friends of disclosure. They are notinterested in any way of raising awareness about UFOs at all. What does this establishment want? Well, this is where it gets really fun. Actually, not fun. My view is they will stall on UFO disclosure indefinitely. If they can hold off disclosure for five years, they'll do it. If they can hold it off for 50 years, they'll do it. If they can hold it off for 50 years, they'll do it. If they can hold it off for 500 years, they'll do that too. They probably can't do it for 500 years, but they'll do it as long as possible. And, but beyond UFO disclosure and secrecy, they've got other interests, that's for sure.So what we're looking at is the transformation of our globe right now. We all know it. We have all seen it in the last year and a half. It started in earnest, really, after 9 to 11, but that was, I guess we can now look back and say that was phase one. Now we're going through another phase. And what we're looking at is the development inevitable. Well, maybe I shouldn't say inevitable. A seemingly possibly inevitable development of a global totalitarianism. Digital control over your speech, over the expression and flow of ideas, over your movement, over your employment.Over your entertainment, over your culture, over your information, all of that. People talk about fascism, and they think about it in connection with a dominant fist on the table leader. You know, that's why they talked about Trump or comparing him like Mussolini PERSON and that type of thing. I'm going to tell you right now, that's not fascism. Cult of personality is now irrelevant to fascism. God understand that. In the 1930s, yeah, it was the way. And it was, you know, you look at the fascists of that era, and let's includethe Communists and Stalin PERSON. Absolutely. It was, that was creation of a quasi-religion. Absolutely. With the rituals, the fantasy, the goatee uniforms, the pageantry. It was important to do that. And it's not that it's not important today, but what's much more important is digital control. That's really what matters. Bureaucratic control over every single aspect of your life for the rest of all time. You don't need a cult of personality for that.You don't have to have this loud trash talk in nationalists to be a fascist. That's complete. It's like, don't get caught up in thinking that's how it has to look. It's irrelevant. And the other thing that's not needed anymore, unfortunately, is an industrious middle class. That's very bad news for us.Middle class has a phenomenon, it's a historical blip. You know, it really started in the 18th century, basically, with this crazy new thing called free enterprise capitalism, where individuals had the freedom to create their own economic future. That was a completely new thing at the time. And it was, and it was, it was actually tremendously beneficial, even to the people at the top of the pyramid. Why? Because all those little busy beavers were liberated to unleash their own genius to create new things. To make the world a better place.And they did. They invented, you know, the railroad and the telegraph and then the automobile and the car. And like all these crazy, cool things that the Rockefellers and the Morgans PERSON and all the other. The Ross Childs and the masters of the universe were like, wow, this is actually really nice. Thanks, little people. I'll take your invention. So it was necessary. You had to have, and to have a free enterprise system like that. You had to have a culture that embraced some level offreedom. It was necessary. But I'll ask you to consider how necessary is that today, now, in an era in which intelligent algorithms increasingly are going to take your job, because you're not going to be needed that much. Yeah, there'll be some need for some very inventive people, absolutely. But we're developing a global system that is so bureaucratized, in which the levels of control have to be higher and higher. But the freedom of the genius of people to express like that's just really not as necessary anymore. That's the truth. So we're becoming superfluous.I liken it to a game of musical chairs. You know, we have all the kids in the room. And someone keeps taking the chairs out of the room, and you still have the same number of kids. It's like, where are you going to sit? What are the jobs? Where are people going to do? Well, the answer is there's nothing for them to do, except, you know, take drugs and play VR games.And watch whatever mindless entertainment is being given to them by the dominant culture. That's what's going to happen. And for those people at the very top, though, they will want what elites have always wanted. But we're never able to have, which is immortality, live a thousand years, perfect health, live like the gods. They really do want this. They've always wanted it, of course, unbounded luxury, all of that.They're going to get it, or at least they think they're going to get it. Recently, just a month ago, less than a month ago, I read one of the early futurist books. The early transhumanist books from 1968 by a man named Gerald Feinberg PERSON. He was a true definition of a crazed genius. Both words. He was a genius, but he was insane.And he was like the godfather of people like Ray Kurzweil and the other singularitarians NORP. Who were talking about the artificial, intelligent explosion of which they're going to see conscious, genius-level AI. And what Feinberg was talking about in this book, back in the 60s, it's amazing. He was saying, you know, here's what we're going to do. We're going to create a future in which you don't have to work.Ever again, Robos PRODUCT is going to do everything for you. It's going to be liberal. This is like classic 1960s futurism. You ever watch those things like the Jetsons WORK_OF_ART. But there's all these videos too. It'll be like the world of tomorrow. And, you know, Dad gets to drive to work in a luxury car. Just sipping his martini. They have robot drives the car or goes automatically. And these cars like a fancy living room.Go figure. Mom's still working in the kitchen, but the kitchen set up with all the gadgets that do everything for her. Like none of this stuff is practical, by the way. up with all the gadgets that do everything for her. Like none of this stuff is practical, by the way. All these futures had no economic sense whatsoever. Zero. But they had this complete utopian. Scientific utopianism was the order of the day after World War II. And America GPE was the king of scientific utopian thinking, yeah, we're going tocreate this perfect future. It's going to be great. You don't have to work. Well, actually you need to work. That's the thing. Like you need to suffer. You need to suffer. You need to work. You want to become great. You got to suffer. Sorry. No other way. You got to work. You want to become great. You got to suffer. Sorry. No other way. You got to struggle.But anyway, say they want to create a world without struggle. And here's Feinberg writing in 1968, and he's saying like, yeah, we're going to create this futuristic society with it. He's talking about artificial intelligence, like solving all of our problems. And then he talks about this is the creepiest thing. I cannot believe a man thought of this. He believed that you could take a little wire and put it in your brain, think Elon Musk'sneurolink. This is like 50 years ago, this man's thinking of this. And he said, if you connect your consciousness to someone else's consciousness, how would you experience that? He believed, I don't know if he's right or not, he said he believed that you would experience it as one single unified consciousness. And he said, it'd be great, except there's two brains now. And he said, what if we did it to the entire human race? He was seriously suggesting this in 1968.Guess what world we're moving into? We're not that far. We're not that far. And I don't know if we're all going to experience a single Unitarian NORP consciousness of like a hive mind, but we're going to be getting kind of sort toward that. It's going to happen in one form or another.So crazy stuff. In my last book, The Alien Agenda, as I wrote last fall, I developed a theory which I call the fourth stage of humanity. And I just want to talk about that before I move into UFO disclosure. So what I believe is if you look at the long history of our species, you know, when I was a kid. I read that the human race had existed for like 40,000 years.And the earliest version was Chromatin Man. Remember that, Chromatin. A lot of us remember that. Well, actually paleontology has made a lot of advances since then. That's for sure. And the number now is as far back as 315,000 years. The earliest human, truly human fossil, I think, is from northwestern Africa LOC. And they're like us 300, more than 300,000 years ago.And they get pushed back further, you never know. That's a long time. So during all of that time, nearly all of it, we lived in one and only one fundamental form of social organization. That was called hunting and gathering. That's how human beings lived. That's how we evolved. That's how our body plans were divided. That's how our brains evolved.They're hunter and gathered form of existence. And we did that for about 300,000 years. And only 10,000 years ago, we developed a new form, stage two, which was agricultural revolution and domestication of animals. So we began to settle down. Out of that, only 10,000 years ago, starting, that's when you get the first cities. Only 10,000 years ago, that's when you get the wheel, and you get writing, and you get metallurgy, and all of the thingsthat we consider civilization. It's very recent. We forget. You know, everything from ancient Egypt to the Roman Empire to the Italian NORP Renaissance. All of that is stage two of human civilization. And it's amazing.That was an amazing form of civilization. Absolutely. High level of organization, literacy, sophistication, proto-science. In fact, the beginnings of science happened then. And that's what took it to stage three. It's science and an industry.A couple of hundred years ago. Let's say 17th century, 18th century. You know, guys like Descartes and Isaac Newton and then the British industrialization. That followed as a result of that transformed our world again in an absolutely equally profound way. You know. And there's all variations of these,but they're really, in my view, they're fundamentally of a kind. And we were all born into stage three. We were born into the late stage industry in science. But now I propose removing into a fourth stage. I don't know what to call it. Maybe the transhumanist stage. Maybe the 24 to 7 global digital surveillance stage. I don't know. Maybe the humanity is one big ant farm stage.Maybe that's the way you call it. But whatever it is, it's something totally different. And let me think about it. So we're going to have strong AI, biogenic engineering, nanotechnology, highly advanced. You've got quantum computing and, oh, don't forget 5 PRODUCTG and smart devices. That's key. That's key. Because with the smart devices, they can only work with 5G. But what they'll do is they've gotthe little sensors and monitors and they'll just watch every single thing you do. You know, from your toaster to your toilet to your refrigerator. Like, they'll know what you're reading. That's for sure. But they're going to know more than that. And everything that you do will be collected. Crunched, tagged, and bad. And then some algorithm will do a minority report style predictive modeling of your behavior. Better than you could do yourself, probably.And all of that's happening. So in that world, and that's just the bare bones beginning. Like that's a fundamental transformation of how human beings exist. And to my mind, I'll check out before that happens. Thank you very much. I have no interest in that world.But it's happening. It's coming. We've got to figure out if you don't want to be part of that. Better figure out a way to deal want to be part of that. Better figure out a way to deal with it. Because that's now.We're just beginning that stage. The mature stage will probably maybe be a century from now, but we're entering it now. Now, at the bottom of this slide, I say why our society will achieve parity with extraterrestrials. That's kind of a provocative thing to say. I admit, why would I say that? People would say, well, you know, we can never catch up to the ETS or Eons PRODUCT ahead of us.How could we? We must be like insignificant ants to them. Wrong. Dead wrong. Because progress doesn't go incrementally like this. It doesn't go like that. It goes like this. It goes by jumps and leaps. All right. That's how it works. Do scientificrevolutions. There was a book by that name by Thomas Coon many years ago where he coined the phrase. The word paradigm as a matter of fact. But what was a book by that name by Thomas Coon many years ago where he coined the phrase. The word paradigm, as a matter of fact. But what he was saying is that our progress goes by revolutionary. Paradigmatic changes. And I think that's absolutely true. And what if what we're approaching now in this fourth stage?That I think is happening is a plateau in which certain critically fundamental foundational sciences become known to us. And those are the keys to the kingdom. And what if they're the same keys that other species have right now? So they may be at a more advanced stage of stage four, but maybe some of them are right at that stage. It's totally possible. So we may actually be leaping into their world right now.And that's what I mean by parity. And if that is the case, then you got to assume they know this. And then you got to assume we might be a problem for them. Or we might be a prize, one or the other. We might be a problem because, you know, we're kind of aggressive. We're kind of creative.We got a lot of innovation. And we like to throw our weight around a little bit. And we might disrupt whatever it is they've got. I don't really know for a fact, but my own theory is that they probably are very conservative societies. And I think that because it's very possible that they are even more controlled and hive-minded than we are. I think some of the descriptions certainly lead reason to think that.And I don't think that they do a lot with change at this point. And we, well, that's what we're all about. So we're moving in and we're an unstable part of the equation. So if I were them, I might be wanting to look at humanity thinking, well, we want to monitor and maybe manage this process. How do we do that? And that's just something you want to think about. I think it's entirely possible. Again, I'm just speculating. I could be wrong.I've been wrong about a lot of things. But it's just an interesting idea. I can't shake it. I keep trying to shake it. I want to think of something other options. But I keep coming back to that.So anyway, that's what we're moving toward. Yeah, it's a phase that I'm not a fan of, but I don't know. The other thing that I'll just say is, I was going to save this for the end and I'll come back to it. But it could very well be that we are turning ourselves into the very aliens that we observe. Like, that's a real possibility.I mean, hive mind, you know, total monitoring. And you get the descriptions that people say about these other aliens, particularly the grays, and you get this sense of hive mind. And telepathy where they all seem to know what each other's thinking. Maybe there's some privacy, but you don't get the sense of that, not at all. It could be exceptions, but it could be that we are actually becoming like them.And the one thing to think about is this by default. In other words, is this by the very structure of the technology that we've developed? Does that force us into this form of social organization? I personally have been a believer for a long time that your form of technology and, you know, are a huge factor in how your society is structured and that it also creates the psychology necessary to make that society function. How much time do I have? 30. I am way behind. Oh boy, I did a bad. Thank you, Nikki PERSON. Oops, is it that late? You know,I'm pretty bad with this sometimes with my time management skills. This is mostly a new lecture and I didn't know how long it would go, so, all right. Moving on. Back to UFOs. I wanted to get to that whole four stage of humanity, just to give you an idea of what we're up against, because that's the establishment, in my view. That's what they're pushing. They're pushing the 1968 vision of Gerald Feinberg PERSON in modern.You know, the people at Davos and the Bilderberg PERSON folks, that's what they're about, in my opinion. That's the world that they're trying to create. 21st century version of that. And that's the world in which you're not going to see a lot of openness and open-intelligent discussion of UFOs. Because an open-intelligent discussion of UFOs is going to cause some serious problems interms of rocking the boat. We're moving into an era where you're not supposed to believe in conspiracy theories, right? Conspiracy theories are bad. Well, UFO cover-up is the mother of all conspiracy theories. Like, there's nothing bigger. Maybe 9 to 11.No, not even that. UFOs is the biggest. If that's ever acknowledged as real, like if the government says, yeah, we actually have been screwing with you all these years about UFOs. Like, that's just not going to go well. That's not what is wanted.So what is allowed in the current climate of UFO disclosure? And what's the red line or the red lines? In other words, what are the lines you're not supposed to cross in terms of public conversation? Let's get into it. So what's permissible? Well, where we're at right now, which is basically, you know, Elizondo PERSON's great at these statements. There's something going on that we just can't explain. We don't know what it is, Tucker PERSON.Could it be the Chinese or the Russians NORP? Well, maybe not, but what if? Like, that type of thing. This little pretend game that we don't know what it is. And of course he knows what it is. And of course he knows what it is. All those folks know exactly what it is.They just can't say it because they got security clearances and they've got to deal with this establishment. They're scared. It's really simple. So we're at this level. There's something going on we can't explain. Keep in mind, we were not even there more than three and a half years ago. This is an amazing place for us to be as a society and it'sjust baby steps. But it's still like an amazing place to be. So that's where we are. That's what's allowed. Are we going to get to other places? Oh, yeah, right here. This is a step beyond where we used to be. Step one, you could say, it's all BS. And step two is, well, some of its classified military. That's really where we were.Now we're at step three of disclosure, which, yeah, there's something happening. We just have no idea. There's a lot of other stages ahead of that. I'm going to talk about them in a minute. We're in this weird in between stage right now. We're in this kind of quasi sort of admission.You know, where the Navy has said, yeah, we got these UAP. Not the President, not the White House, the Navy. It's important, but it's not. It's everything where we've come to can still be walked back even now. There is no necessary inherent reason why we're going to keep going forward in this. You know, this whole thing can go back.And in fact, that last New York Times ORG article looked to me that it was a walking back potentially. And maybe the UAP ORG task force, when it is out soon. That might be a walk back. I don't know. I have no idea what's in that thing. But it could be.So anyway, future fallback positions or future levels of disclosure. If you're the establishment and you're on a retreat from the enemy, that is the people pushing this. You got a lot of fallback positions before you really have to worry. Let's look at them. Fallback position number one is, yeah, lately we've actually had quite a few encounters with these things. We're kind of there. We're actually sort of there. We're getting there. The UAP Task Force supposedly has got something like 120 encounters. Of course, that's nothing. But to say that had 120 encounters over the last 20 years, you know,inching up there toward having a lot of encounters. Next layer, or fallback position, we actually have studied some unusual artifacts. We actually have. We just don't have any conclusion. We're working on it. That's an easy one.Another one. Some of these UFOs may have come from elsewhere. But we don't know anything about them. That's an interesting place. We're edging toward that, but we're not there officially. But that is a place that they could go to at some point.That's still a safe place. That's still a safe place because it may have come. Yeah, we think they may have come from somewhere else. We just don't know anything about them. Next layer of defense. Well, we actually had known something about this for a little while.But we kept it quiet because we didn't want to panic the public. So, again, no culpability. Next, we have had military encounters, actually, for years, but we still don't know much about it. Or we've secretly tried studying this for years, but with little progress. Or we've recovered craft, or maybe even bodies, but with little progress. We just don't know, and we don't want to panic the world. Or, of course, each step you're getting into a harder and harder place to defend without an avalancheing on you. I mean, that's always the danger, too.Let's keep that in mind. As we keep going, these are less secure positions. But nonetheless, this becomes the new Alamo LOC, the new place where you can make your last stand. Next is, yeah, we actually have had a long-standing cover-up. We actually have, but all in the name of public safety. Yeah, we've had extreme secrecy.Yeah, they've been men in black. Yeah, there's been corporate involvement. Yeah, they've been men in black. Yeah, there's been corporate involvement. Yeah, Lockheed ORG and the rest. And, yes, our institutions have been totally corrupted. At this point, it's going to start to fall apart, probably. And you have admission of major breakthroughs. Let's say, breakaway technology of this sort or another. You know, anti-graph, free energy, whatnot. Then an admission that, well, we actually know quite a bitabout them. Thank you very much. Yeah, we know who they are and what they're all about. Oh, yeah, abductions are real. Oh, yeah, consciousness is actually super important in all of this. And we've actually didn't want you to know that because, well, that's kind of a useful thing for you to know. And we just didn't really think anyone was ready to know some of these secrets. Or another admission. And this is all hypothetical.I don't know for a fact that these are true, but an admission that maybe one or more groups have, you know. Take your pick, infiltrated, monitored, manipulated us. And I think I have one more. Oh, yeah. They're walking among us. And they are deeply embedded in our society. And I know that there's people probably right here who believe that's true. I'm one of them. I believe it's true. Can't prove it. But I've had too many stories. I believe it's unbelievable. I've come my way. And I'm justlike, I give up. It's true. They're beings who look just like us, but they're not like us. What are they doing? Well, that's a whole interesting thing, isn't it? But they're here. Now, can these admissions happen? Well, I don't know. It could take a long time. You go all the way down that road. I think it's going to take years if that, in many years. Or can they be walked back?Yes, they can be walked back. I mentioned the problem with recognizing you with a cover a moment ago. Some other of all conspiracies. You admit that, then? Everything is open. I wrote about this in a book a little over a decade ago, A.D., after disclosure, with Bryce Sable. And that was one of our main thesis, which was simply that if you make this acknowledgement. You open up a can of worms and you don't knowwhere you're going to come out on the other side of this. And that's not a place that elites like to be. Here's a question. You have disclosure without freedom. What I mean by that is moving into a world where we're losing our freedoms rapidly. Like down a slippery slope. It's more than a slippery slope at this point.It's like a water slide. And if we lose more and more of these freedoms in the coming decade, this decade, are we really going to be able to easily have genuine disclosure? I would just suggest maybe not. What's being hidden? I want to talk about this. Science is being hidden. Revolutionary transformations of our society through science is being hidden right now. I'll talk about, that's an illustration of the Tic-Tac UFO PRODUCT. The conventional propulsion technologies cannot explain how these objects do. Not just the Tic-Tac, but all of them throughout the decades.We have no way to explain instant acceleration silently in the thousands of miles per hour. We just can't do it. Not using the conventional technologies we have. The acceleration is the right angle. Turns all of that. The lack of a heat signature frequently from these things.So a question that I will ask you, and I don't have the definite answer, because I'm not a scientist anyway. Are UFOs manipulating the ether? And I know that's an old-fashioned term from the 19th century. Oh, it's been discredited. Well, I don't know about that. I'm not so sure it should be discredited, or the zero-point energy field. Or a superfluid medium to harness mass gravity and inertia. Which is what scalar science really is all about.Because I think that may be in the cards. There's Mark McCandlish PERSON. So this is some of the private notes McCandlish PERSON wrote to my colleague. And I just want to talk about this, and I'm putting this out there. So McCandlish PERSON was quite convinced. So Mark McCandlish PERSON was an aviation illustrator.Who was one of the best in the world at what he did? And I think he's mostly famous for his illustration of the so-called ARV PRODUCT. The alien reproduction vehicle, which was a story that came out from 1988. Sorensen had a friend named Bradford Sorensen PERSON, who is still alive. Sorensen PERSON is a high-level aviation industry executive. They were going to go to an air show in November 1988 in California.And McCandlish had a last-minute deadline. He couldn't do it. So Orensen PERSON goes with a senior defense official. Friend of family. They go. The official says,Hey, I'm going to take you to an even better show. And they go and they fly to Lockheets FAC. Hangar known as the Big Hanger. And they go in they fly to Lockheets FAC. Hanger known as the big hangar. And they go in. And there's like guards with M16S everywhere, and the defense officials. Are like, whoa, I didn't think the security would be this intense. Don't say anything. I'll get you in. They go in, and on one side of the hangar.There's a big curtain dividing it. On one side are these losing prototypes. But really amazing aircraft, really cool stuff. On the other side of the curtain. So Orensen PERSON goes there, and he sees what he called, I think he called it. The Mama Bear, Papa Bear, Baby Bear, hovering UFOs.Hovering. And as he said to McCandlish PERSON, he says, I was pretty amped up. I was looking around. I was like super shot of adrenaline. I looked for cables, or ropes, hanging, suspending these things. There's nothing. They were just floating. There was a general at a podium talking about them, calling them the alien reproduction vehicles, saying that this is 1988. That by then they traversed the solar system.And he said when I looked at them, they looked like they'd been put through their paces, kind of beat up looking. He gave very detailed descriptions of McCandlish PERSON, who did a illustration that's out on the web. What McAndlish said privately is that one of the sources of his stated that the Mercury Isotope 199 was the key for working the, for creating the field that was necessary to do.Mercury 199 is an isotope of Mercury that I'll just read here. And he's referring to the researcher Victor Schauberger PERSON, you know who he was. Saying this was key to understanding how to tap zero point energy from Mercury 199. One subjected to high voltage electrical discharges. The witness is Brad Sorensen, said those discharges were something north of over 1,250,000 volts. Isotope 199 PRODUCT is said to have an unusually high nuclear spin ratio. Brad said that one characteristic of mercury vapor from 199 PRODUCT was that it was a noble gas.In other words, that it was a noble gas. In other words, that it was somewhat inert, which is important because you wanted not to corrode the material that is contained within. So you want a noble gas inert. Anyway, I'm just putting this out there because a lot of you are much more scientifically literate than I am. And Mercury 199 is considered to be an important thing. McAndlish PERSON was terrified of talking too much about this. I will say that. This is a man named Kenneth Shoulders, who's not particularly well known, although he should be. He discovered and namedthese little objects called EVOs, which stands for exotic vacuum objects. And basically, this is important science, I think. And again, I'm not a scientifically highly literate person, but I try to understand these things. So what Ken Shultors did, by the way, help put off work very closely with Ken Shelders PERSON. Shoulders PERSON work, I think, has been very important for a lot of people on the quiet side of things. But he proved, I'm going to read this, that a portion of a spark discharge, consisting of ions and electrons. Coalesced into organized geometric structures, they self-organized,basically. And he called them EVO's exotic vacuum objects. They discovered their everywhere in nature. They are guided by the fields induced by their own motion. I have a hard time understanding this myself, so forgive me. But they produce anomalies. They can chew up matter. Think of the Hutchinson effect, John Hutchinson over in Vancouver GPE, studied in great detail by John Alexander. Think of the Hutchinson effect, John Hutchinson over in Vancouver, studied in great detail by John Alexander. One of the members of the Bigelow Club ORG. That was an early version of the EVO phenomenon, I think, uncontrolled, where these. Some weird effects happen. EVOs can inducenuclear reactions. Evos can nullify mass or inertia. If you scale up the effects of EVOs, they are analogous to those produced by UFOs. They have harmful radiation emissions, electromagnetic frequencies, violation of Newtonian physics, cloaking, and more. And if you scale up the effects of EVOs, they are analogous, I said that. Oh, all right, so I'm fine. Now I got it. This is the thing I just said with a picture of a flying saucer. Mark McCandlish had this to say, essentially about EVOs, and he connected to Eric Davis PERSON.Another member of the club. Davis was experimenting with mercury plasmas or virtual plasma conditions in a self-organizing vortex configuration. Like the central column of the ARV. He was all set to publish. McCandlish PERSON was writing this. Word was, he had found a way to tap zero point energy, and then suddenly the paper wasclassified. Just interesting stuff to put out there. Could there be a breakthrough in secrecy and disclosure? So one problem facing the task force right now, at least this is the impression that we're all getting. The word is, let's say, first of all, do the people doing the task force even have the clearances necessary? Or can they even get them in time, six months, not a long period of time? To get the clearances to go through that whole Pentagon ORG, the Pentagon's maze-like structure? Probably not. Really, probably not. Will they have an ability to get into Lockheed ORG's bag of goodies?Certainly not. Or Boeing's or TRWs ORG and all those other corporations? I don't think so. So despite any of the smoke that comes out, you're not going to get genuine confirmation. I don't think it's going to be happening for a very long time. I think we're going to be more in this nebulous, well, yeah, it looks like maybe kind of sort of who knows. But I think we're going to be in this phase. Is Christopher Mellon PERSON? He had a very interesting statement. Christopher Mellon wasn't just in TTSA. He was, as I write here, he was a member of the General Senior Review Group ORG of. Organizations called SAPAC, that's the Special Access Program Oversight Committee ORG.That's one of the key things listed in the Davis-Wilson ORG notes I talked about earlier. Where the secrets are kept. The programs in the Pentagon ORG are monitored with basically no oversight. Mellon PERSON says this, if it were me and I were trying to bury it deep. I'd take it outside government oversight entirely and place it in a compartment as a new entity. Within an existing defense company and manage it as what we call an IRA or an independent research and development activity.I just wonder, can most UFO reverse engineering programs be taking place in IRADs? Totally off limits from any kind of oversight. I'm going to guess the answer is probably yes or something analogous to that. This is a window closing for us. We keep talking about the momentum. Disclosure is inevitable.It's not inevitable. I mean, it could happen, but it doesn't have to happen. A, you've got big tech censorship, global clampdown of non-authoritative sources of information. I get dinged on YouTube ORG all the time because of that. I'm not authoritative. I'm not CBS News ORG because of that. I'm not authoritative. I'm not CBS News or whatever, and I'm not Snopes ORG or what have you.We're seeing this happen all around, and it's really becoming a stifling environment. Not just on YouTube ORG, but pretty much everywhere. You've got deletion of social media, YouTube ORG accounts that an alarming rate. You've got manipulationetion of social media, YouTube ORG accounts that an alarming rate. You've got manipulation of search engines. Google is absolutely dishonest algorithms in YouTube ORG. It's ridiculous.YouTube, of course, is owned by Google ORG. If you go to YouTube ORG and you type in UFO, I mean, it's just absurdly bad now. It's horrible. The last five years, it's just absurdly bad now. It's horrible. The last five years, it's just been bad to worse. You get all corporate media, all the results, like all the actual interesting stuff is pages. Pages down.It's terrible. It's all intentional. I'm going to skip the rest of this. We're getting out of time. I want to look ahead to the world in just nine years from now, but I'm going to skip the rest of this. We're getting out of time. I want to look ahead to the world in just nine years from now, 2030. What are we going to see in the world?Well, this is my thoughts. I think we're likely going to see a continuation in the greater and greater power of international. Bodies over national governments. I think we're going to see greater and greater global surveillance and control efforts by national governments over you through 5 PRODUCTG, artificial intelligence and all of that. There's no escape. It's going to be tough toescape. You really have to figure this out. Greater control over public narratives in every possible function, every way. Elimination of the non-authoritative perspectives. One interesting statement by Eric Schmidt of Google ORG. He's talking about Google Echo PRODUCT. That's their version of Alexa PRODUCT, right? This is a very interesting thing you said.It's like, what we want is that when you ask Google echo a question, you get one of the authoritative answers. We want to make it easy for you. You think about how crazy and messed up that is. What kind of reality is so simplified that any time you ask a question, you get one. Single answer.I mean, life isn't that way. Life is shades of color and gray and so forth. But what they're doing is training the next future generations to just expect a single. Answer. Don't bother with research. Ask a single question. It'll give you the answer. You don't have to bother digging into the weeds of these issues anymore. Don't worry about your critical thinking skills. We're going to take care of it for you.Give you the one answer. That was Schmidt PERSON's answer. And that's the world we're moving into. So we're taking away critical thinking skills of future generations, aside from raising. Them in the stultifying totalitarian environments in which kids don't even have the right to. Play freely without adult supervision anymore. You talk about a crime against future generations.How about putting that near the top of the list? My God. Greater control over public narratives. So I just said that. And then far greater ability to identify people via numerous technologies, facial recognition. Voice rec.I mean, even beyond that, they'll be able to identify you by your manner of walk, your style of gait or anything. The sky is the limit here. So you'll be tracked forever. And your kids and your grandchildren and your great-grandchildren. In the immediate future, I am personally someone who doesn't have a lot of faith in theglobal economic situation. I think governments around the world just printing money through oblivion. I can't see good coming out of that at any way at all. Ditto, the fact that 50% of all, 50% of all businesses that have shuttered during COVID EVENT are expected not to reopen ever. Talk about a body blow to the healthy economy. Everyone living on their Stimmy E checks and UBI, that's happening. Because the jobs aren't going to be there. They'rejust not going to be there anymore. And yes, I know. I know. Everyone says, well, we've heard this all along and new technologies come along and there's new jobs. But look, I'm sorry. I'm just not buying this one. There's too many algorithms coming along to take away too many jobs. And I just don't think you're going to have enough positions to occupy people in any kind.Of meaningful way. I just don't see it happening. I'd love to be wrong. So what I'm saying is that for the next decade, we're going to see ongoing crises getting worse. The economic crises will accentuate, exacerbate social crises, cultural crises. Ideological crises. I hate you.I hate you back and so on. A breakdown of the culture. We have a broken culture. Culture is broken. Probably broke down five, six years ago. But I think it's just accelerated.For me, I think 2014, 2015 is when you could really start seeing it happen in a big way. To the point where, you know, two sides hate each other so much. I mean, yes, it's always been the kind of arguments. I've started a point now where the other side is not being demonized and almost literally. Dehumanized to a point that is frightening to me. Excuse me to death. It's a bad situation to be in. Now, I do think in the UFO side of it, there's going to be more data that will be released. I think that there is enough momentum now that in the UFO side of it, will see increasing. Amount of information coming out.How much to push it over the edge, though, is the real question. Because as I was trying to explain, there are many fallback positions that the establishment can take to just delay this, like basically forever. It's more close to over a long time. And I'm sure at some point all of the truth will come out because it just did well. It can't do it forever.But I believe that it's in the interest of the people running the show, whether they are all human or not, to delay this as long as possible. So it's also possible in the coming decade that we may have gotten to a point of no return. Within even the ordinary media. The media is controlled, but is it how fully controlled is it? I think we make a mistake when we think all of the media is always controlled. I think that's a simplistic way to look at it. I would say the dominant establishment media is basically controlled, yes, for the most.Part. But even then not, I don't think entirely. What we have to remember is no ruling elite is monolithic. It's never existed in history, not ever. Not in ancient Rome GPE. You've got Caesar against Pompey against Crassus PERSON and all the factions.They don't agree. No one factions. They don't agree. No one agrees. They don't agree now. In history of UFO phenomenon, go back to the 1950s. Donald Kehoe PERSON, the great writer, back then, wrote about all the factions that existed. There was a secrecy faction.Yeah, they were dominant, but there was also an anti-secretity faction. High-level people within the Pentagon ORG, within the military. They believed in breaking the UFO secret. They did. It's always been there. So it's, and within the media, there are, yes, most of the establishment media is not. Friendly, but some of it is. And they have to be careful.But they're not, it's not monolithic. There are always splinter groups, always. So I think when we, there's always a danger of these knee-jerk reactions. Last thing I want to say, this is important for me and I just want to share this with. You. I feel that we've moved into a kind of very toxic postmodernist view of how we look at the world. And this invaded the UFO mentality. So what Imean by that is simply in what we call postmodern poison, it's the poison. Pill for your mind. It's a situation where you deconstruct, really, the words that the other person gives you. What does that mean? Well, the implication is that whatever they're saying to you is really not what they mean. You've got to figure out their secret motivations and what they're actually trying to say and do.That's a great way to wreck a relationship, it's a great way to wreck a friendship, it's a great way to wreck a society as well, just going to say. Because what you're doing, you replace listening with suspicion. That's actually what you're doing. If you don't have a successful society, you've got to listen to each other. You have to communicate and you have to listen. You have toargue. You've got to come to resolution and you don't demonize the other person, by the way. Because you're just as flawed as they are and you've just got as much black shit in your heart as they do and never kid yourself. We all do. That's why we're human beings and not angels. Because that's what we are. We're all flawed, limited human beings. But with a postmodernist attitude with a new apology, essentially what we're doing is instead. Of listening to someone, we're like, oh, they're part of the essential intelligence agency.Or they were part of the intelligence community. Therefore, we must never listen to them. Well, with an attitude like that, you will never get an inside whistleblower ever. Like, don't even bother. You know, ten years ago in our field, a lot of us would talk and think, wouldn't it be? Great if we had an inside government whistleblower?Wouldn't that be awesome? Well, now they come out and people are throwing rotten tomatoes at them saying, Disinfo, liar. Sia, false flag. False flags happen. But like you got to listen to the information and at least take it in and test it, corroborate.It, ask yourself, is this true? Is this BS? Thank you. I got five minutes. Anyway, so I think that we have poisoned ourselves as a community because we don't. Listen. We just suspect. And the thing is like you got these people like, I know what their secret motivations. Are. Like, yeah, I can crawl inside that person's head inside their soul and I actually know. What they're thinking?Sure you do. I know what they're. Testify. All right, let me get off my little hobby horse here. I am almost wrapping it up. I got to go fast.So yeah. So where I'm moving things forward, will there be enough to get to the actual red line of? Disclosure that is admission of basically bodies, crash retrievals. Once you start admitting you got crash retrievals, you're going to have a hard time pretending. That you haven't had a cover up.You know, that's going to be the difficulty. And why are we going to get there? I don't know if we're going to get there. I have no idea. We came really close last summer. Do we have enough?Well, I'm going to have to be quick here. Here's what we have to do. You want a real breakthrough, then some people are going to have to get really brave and, maybe even a little reckless with their security clearances. They're just going to have to do it. They have to step over the line and say what they know.Someone's going to have to do it. And no one's doing it over in that community. I think of Eric Davis PERSON. And I'm not calling him out. I respect Eric Davis PERSON. I think he's a brilliant man.And actually, he has a genius for saying everything that he can say without going over. That line. He's really good at that. He's amazing at that. He goes through all of his interviews, statements, and you know he was partially read into a UFO Special Access Program ORG. And he stated this. By former executive vice president of the Legacy Aerospace Corporation, probably Lockheed ORG, who also saw a UFO with hisfamily in the ocean near Sunnyvale, California. We know this because he said it. But Davis doesn't want to share this information in a manner that would threaten his clearance. Anger, the special access programs, or break competences. I get that. We'll get that. But someone's got to do, someone's got to step over the line.And it's dangerous. So it's not for me to say, yeah, you should threaten your family and your career. But that's probably what's going to be needed. Because if no one does it, we're going to continue on to this system of legal illegality. Which is what we've got. It's legal illegality.It's totally illegal except they're allowed to do it. The way that the secret is hired secretly is maintained rather. So Black Swan Scenarios is a couple. I guess basically I just mentioned one. Someone just breaks their line. Someone just admits what they know. Could it be Colin Powell? Thomas Wilson? Any of the former CIA ORG directors? Could it be General William McCaslin PERSON,who's, he's another interesting guy? I don't know. Probably not. But things can come out of nowhere. Not everything is predictable. That's the great thing about living in 3D reality in a timeline where you don't know.What's going to happen? We don't know the future. We're terribly bad at predicting it. Myself included. There's a couple of scenarios that I see. Scenario 1, let's say 10 years from now, is that the secrecy continues. How is that? Well, you'll have a continued slow drip of the evidence and awareness gets raised bit. By bit, but it doesn't force the powers that be into admitting to anything. That's where we are now. And I think that can continue for at least another decade, maybe more.It is possible. Here's maybe the one false flaggy, sciope aspect that some of the people claim that. Could be true, which is that awareness is raised enough of this phenomenon. We're starting to think, yeah, it looks like there's something there that you might get. Some politicians saying, well, we need to raise a military budget to a military space. Yeah, they might do that. It's possible. I don't know if that's a true sci-op or not, or just opportunism, which I would say is. More likely than that.And then on the bottom, I think this is the most important. The secrecy can easily be maintained by the continuation of the global system of control. That's coming into place. You maintain powerful control over all digital and private communications, etc., etc. You can do it. Scenario number two might be disclosure of some sort, some significant sort.And it could happen. I mean, it's conceivable. The momentum that started could continue to chip away. And one can lead to another. Someone else can be encouraged to come forward because someone else has done so. Yes, that can happen. It can happen. And it can start an avalanche effect, which is really was the theme of my book, after. Disclosure, 11 years ago. I thought one big thing that comes out, it'll cause an avalanche. That has not happened. That was my false. I just assumed in 2010 that an avalanche would happen. I was wrong.But it still can't happen. And if it does, boy, duck, because this kind of get crazy. It'll be a crazy world. And we like to, you know, we have a lot of utopian tendencies among all of us. We want things to be all perfect and everything and solve our problems. We're never going to solve all our problems.I'm sorry. I'm just one of those people. I don't believe we're going to solve all of our problems. And that's fine. We're not supposed to. You know, we're not gods.We're not transhumanist, forever living people. By the way, those transhumanists, they really scare me to death. You want to live forever. You'll lose your mind. I guarantee it. 150, 200 years.You're not supposed to live forever. You'll go insane. You will go insane. You're not designed to do that. We're just not. This is my opinion. Anyway, no utopia. Let's not fall into that, please. There will be dramatic consequences from disclosure. And some of them will be good and some of them won't be good. That's life.Now, there is a worse scenario, what I call the unthinkable, but it isn't unthinkable. If in the next decade our society gets into some serious crisis action, you know, let's Say Pakistan and India get into it or South China LOC sea flares up or, I don't know, some. Of the crazy stuff happens, maybe in Eastern Europe, Donbace or Belarus GPE or whatever. And or you just have an economic collapse because we're on the precipice of that amount. Of time. Thank you. Which would resultin, you know, major unrest, totalitarian control or even worse who the. Hell knows, or we have something better. I'm just about done. Thank you, Carla PERSON. We avoid a major collapse through some miracle, Deus X Machina. God comes down and says, I'm going to fix everything. Yeah, maybe, okay. Or we are able to expose substantial elements of the secret. Or we, and that results in a massive re-evaluation of our society to some extent where we can. Fix at least some of our problems. We're not going to fix all of them. We're never going to fix all of them. That would be great. That would be great.If we actually don't collapse, we don't fall into Mad Max and we actually get maybe a transportation. Infrastructure back or we get some other good things happening and we can actually fix. Some things genuinely. I would consider that a major win. Bottom line, unprecedented challenges are ahead. Great danger of a further broken culture. Maybe we can fix it. It's possible, I suppose.I write here, separated from our true nature and selves. Yeah, for me, like moving into a techno-dispopia VR augmented reality future. That's like, that's the worst. Separate use from your inner self, your inner being. I'm not a pass. I slid into our virtual world's ideological bubbles, propagans 24 to 7 and meshed within.A fictitious controlled artificial world. Yeah, we all know. What will happen if disclosure happens within that world? What if the aliens and ourselves do a virtual reality instead of in the flesh on a podium? I wonder if that will happen. Everyone's like living in their ready player one world. And last question to think about, will we achieve disclosure just as we lose our old? Humanity and become the aliens that we've observed all this time. Or will we find a way to achieve meaningful public truth while maintaining freedom, dignity? And our fundamentalhumanity? That's the real question because I'll tell you what I don't want. I don't want disclosure living in a totalitarian society where I'm digitally controlled. What do we do? Well, that's going to be my next lecture. Oh, final question. How can we expect to come to an understanding of all the beings that are here? I mean, talk about those guys.I wrote about it in the alien agenda. You can read that. It's on Amazon ORG. Those that are physically here interacting in a covert manner with our society and our people. What are their motivations? What are their goals? What's their scale of operation? We don't even ask that question 99% of the time. I ask it sometimes and I ask it in my last book. So those are just interesting things to ask about. They're not all discarnate consciousness entities. Some of them are physical doing things rightdown here on the ground. And I'm saying both types don't exist. I think both types do exist. But the ones that I'm immediately concerned with are the ones that are acting herein. The flesh and in their tech. That's the ones I'm particularly concerned with.Thank you very, very, very, very much for being. Here. Hey Trump PERSON, was she a hair puller? Thanks for joining us on the paranormal report. Don't forget to click on those links and God bless everyone, even Trump PERSON.