Could Darvin Ham be the Next Coach of the Detroit Pistons? NBA Draft Lottery Preview

Could Darvin Ham be the Next Coach of the Detroit Pistons? NBA Draft Lottery Preview

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Good evening, everybody, and welcome to another exciting night of NBA ORG basketball. With the first pick, the Detroit Pistons select Cade Cunningham from Oklahoma State University ORG. Chandler and get, oh, what a bluff by Max Seale PERSON! My goodness! The Pistons ORG are digging in. They got the deaf.They got the big men. They got the better basketball team. No doubt about it. There's Jayden playing the passing lane. Guy's in James. Dynamite dumped, and the crowd loves it.Bistons need a three, and they have just another three seconds to do it. Here's Chauncey Phillips. Here it is. He's got it. the crowd runs it. This can see the three and they have just another three seconds to do it. Here's Jocci Phillips PERSON. Here it is. He's got it. He's got it. Jorci Phillips hits the three.

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Overtime. Amazing. On a bruce, Detroit Basketball ORG.

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Pistons fans, welcome back to an edition of the Palace of a podcast part of the Believe Network ORG. I'm your host back after a two-week hiatus. Mike Anguolano, join me this week as the full casting crew, Aaron Johnson and Jasper Apollonia PERSON. Fellas, how has it been going? The last two weeks, I've missed the last few podcasts.

Speaker 4104.14s - 124.52s

Seems like it's been going okay. We always miss you, Mike. But it's always great when the full crew can beat here. And we've got some good topics to talk about this week. I don't want to spend too much time talking about ourselves because I'm ready to go. I'm ready to talk about what we've got to get into.And I know that that's why the people are here. So I'm doing good. It's good to be with your fellows. And let's have a show.

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Yeah, much like the Pistons ORG president of basketball operations search, my beard is too long. But it's great to have the full cast. You've been gone far too long as well. Let's just get into this, man. We finally have a little something exciting coming up. The NBA lottery is on Sunday.This Sunday. I think we all had to remind ourselves of that. I had to look it up this morning.

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Oh, wait, that's coming up.

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I've never been less excited for a potential number one overall pick. Like, I fell to my knees when the Pistons got the number one pick in the 2020 draft when they got Cade PERSON. This one, I don't know. I might do a little fist bump. That's about it.

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Yeah.

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I had to look it up and I put it in our podcast chat of, wait, isn't the draft lottery next week?

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L.O.L. it's Sunday. And it is, in fact, Sunday. So we're going to talk a little bit about the draft. We're going to talk a little bit about the, um't the draft lottery next week? L.O.L. it's Sunday. And it is, in fact, Sunday. So we're going to talk a little bit about the draft. We're going to talk a little bit about the not report because Brian Winthorst PERSON hates when people aggregate him. But he did mention that he wouldn't be surprised if the Pistons and the Lakers ORG ended up swapping coaches in some capacity. So we're going to have to touch on that as crazy as it is.We're probably going to jump around a little bit as well. I'd like to thank our sponsor first for this week's episode, and that is Bet Online ORG. And Bet Online is your number one source for all your summer sports this season from Major League Baseball, Golf, NBA, and NHL ORG playoffs, all the latest stats news and scores available to follow your favorite teams, get the latest odds and lines, including the latest team matchups, player props, and odds on just about every sport that's out there. Head on over to the website today or use your mobile device and to get it on the action.Bet online where the game starts. Our pre-show plugs, of course. Please subscribe to our newsletter at pallaspistons.com ORG. That's where you're going to find all of our written content at. That's where you're going to find the podcast going directly into your inbox. When it releases, a nice little blurb here about the new weekly newsletter that we have,the weekly drive, which is written by me. I've already started to put it together. That hits your inbox every Monday morning. It's short. It's not long. Don't think I'm going to be just riffraffin for, you know,a thousand words about random stuff. It's really supposed to be something that's short that is very succinct, captures some NBA news, some Pistons ORG news, and it is in your inbox every Monday to stay up to date. Our Pall's Pistons ORG YouTube channel is, you know, we keep uploading the podcast there.It takes 30 seconds to go and like a video and subscribe. It really does help us tremendously and it's free to you. And, of course, all of our socials, which many of you long-time listeners may already know about. Twitter, Instagram, Instagram, our Facebook page, and our TikTok ORG. Please head on over and subscribe to all of those or follow them or like them.It does make a big difference, and it does allow us to interact with you, which is what we all like to do. Guys, let's get into the most bizarre topic of the Pistons ORG realm right now, which is a potential swap of head coacheswith the Los Angeles Lakers ORG. So according to Brian Windhorst of ESPN, if there is a change in Detroit ORG at head coach, which again is entirely bent on who the president of basketball operations is going to be, there's a potential that the Los Angeles Lakers could be a team that's looking to go after Monty Williams PERSON, and Darbenham could be headed to Detroit ORG. Now, obviously, you can't trade the coach because he's already been fired or let go.I mean, maybe there's a technicality there, kind of like a sign and trade, where a guy wants to go to X team, but he can actually re-sign and then get traded and still go to his team. Maybe there is the potential for that, but you can't really trade a head coach necessarily. Monti PERSON makes a lot of money. But just the premise, if you take away the money aspect and you take away the Darwin Ham being fired after two years aspect, what do you guys make of swapping head coach?Let's talk about getting rid of Monty Williams first, because you'd probably be on the hook for a majority of that money. If they move on from Monty and get a guy like Darvin Ham PERSON, what do you guys feel about that sort of move? Because Ham has, you know, I mean, he got fired from the Lakers ORG. The Lakers ORG are a successful organization. They have higher expectations than what Pistons ORG fans are wanting. Ham made a Western LOC conference finals.They made the playoffs. They ran into Denver GPE both times. You can't fault them for that necessarily. But what do you guys think of getting Darvin Ham swapping him out for Monty Williams PERSON? Just in a vacuum first before we get into the money and all that stuff.

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I'd have to say I'd be very much unmoved by the whole idea.

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I think there's a deservedly so desire from many within the Pistons ORG community

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to move on from Monty Williams PERSON. And I think that is a very fair point, a very fair case to make. This team, this Detroit Piston group, this Detroit Piston Corps has regressed in their first year under Monti Williams PERSON. They lost a significant part of their young career for a lot of these guys, for a lot of these young players. And just to have that blind faith that, oh, it'll be better next year, I don't really know if the Pissons ORG are in a position where they can just kind of hope and pray on that and see what happens come next October.I think there has to be, you know, a greater sense of urgency here. And if there is a process in place that is going to give them that idea and that confidence that Williams and his staff in this organization will be better in year two and it will get better for the young guys then so be it but it's it's very hard for me to see how that's possible especially when after such a bad year a lot of these young players are now being talked about as well the pissons might have to move one or lot of these young players are now being talked about as,well, the Pissons might have to move one or two of these guys if they're going to get better. So I think, look, you have to look at moving on from Monty Williams PERSON, whoever the new president of basketball operations is. But is Darvin Ham PERSON really the guy? He had a very, very talented team this year in Los Angeles. I mean, won 47 games with LeBron James and Anthony Davis PERSON.Obviously, two of the most household names in the NBA with Anthony Davis playing very, very well and being very healthy this year. Not something that's always the case. They had a much better supporting cast this year with guys like Austin Reeves PERSON taking a step in his development. They had Rui Hachamora for a full season. They had DeAngelo Russell PERSON. Like, yeah, they had some guys go down, Gabe Vincent, Jared Vanderville. But like, this was a pretty solid Laker team. I mean, it wasn't like they had a third star next to LeBron and AD PERSON, but it was a very, very good team. And they did not put up much of a fight against Denver GPE. If they would have won a couple of games, maybe things would be different.Maybe Darbinham PERSON would still be employed. But if the Lakers can't win with LeBron and AD PERSON, and again, not win the series, but at least put up a real fight, don't give me, oh, they played Denver GPE, you know, really, really tough in all those games. Yeah, congrats that they won the first half of those games. They didn't win the second half when it matters the most. So, look, I'm not all too keen on the idea of Darvinham PERSON being the savior for the Detroit Pistons ORG. And it's not something that, look, I'm looking elsewhere up on thepistons. I'll put it that way. I think it would be better for them to look elsewhere if they do move on from Williams. It's hard for me to look at Darbanham PERSON and look at what he's done in Los Angeles and say, yeah, this is the guy that Detroit ORG needs to go out and get. It comes down to expectations for me.

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Like, what are you expecting out of these next couple of seasons? Because do I think Darbinham PERSON is a great coach? No, I don't. I think he's pretty much right in line with what a lot of other NBA ORG coaches who are middle of the pack can offer you at this point in time. That being said, I don't think he's a bad head coach.And let's be frank, Monty Williams PERSON is a bad head coach. He has not elevated this team. He's regressed this team. He's made them worse. He's not helped with any sort of development. I think at least with Darban Ham, you can point to, you know, Austin Reeves PERSON has developed.I think Rui Hachimora has played better since he came to Los Angeles. I think that even guys like DeAngelo Russell and to an extent Jared Vanderbilt PERSON were able to improve their games in certain ways. He's not a great exes and nose coach. And that's why you saw them lose to a Denver GPE team that, yes, is probably more talented, you know, overall, even if LeBron and Anthony Davis PERSON are just a step below, you know, Nicola Yokic PERSON at this point in their careers.I still think, you know, it just comes down to like, do you want a semblance of stability? Do you want somebody who's going to come in and know he's not going to make you a great team, but he's also not going to completely tank your season. Darwin Ham PERSON is not going to destroy your roster. I truly don't believe he is going to do something like that, even if he does have his flaws. Or do you want to go for that home run?Like, do you want your Mark Denon? Do you want your Chris Finch? Is that what you're looking for right now, where you're really trying to take a solid step forward? I think it comes down to that kind of mentality. Ham PERSON obviously can manage egos. That being said, I don't know how many egos there can be in that Detroit locker room after 14 wins. So for me, no, I would not go for Darvinham PERSON. That being said, is he the worst name out there? No. Would I rather have him than Frank Vogel, who was just let go today?I don't know. I think I'd probably rather have Vogel PERSON as well. So, no, I would not go for him ultimately, but I think that he's a defensible hire under the right circumstances. And a lot of that comes down to who your president of basketball operations is and exactly what you can do with Monty Williams PERSON in his gargantuan contract moving

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forward. Yeah, you guys kind of hit it on the head. It depends on who the present basketball operations is going to be and what the direction of the organization is going to be. Are they going to make a whole bunch of Houston Rockets ORG-esque moves and want to compete right now? And then you're hiring somebody who is like IMEUdoka and has some playoff success. And Ham PERSON has that. I mean, whether you want to admit it or not, two years, he went deep into the playoffs oneyear and got waxed by a pretty good Denver Nuggets team. I get not wanting to make the hire. And I think Ham PERSON has a place in the league still, whether he joins as an assistant coach or something. There were other teams that were linked to him. The Washington Wizards were linked to him. The Nets were linked to him as an assistant. The Charlotte Hornets were linked to him, probably potentially as an assistant as well. And they just made a hire as well, getting CharlesLee from the Boston Celtics ORG. I wouldn't be super upset if it was Darvindham, but it doesn't seem like the right coach to me. I would still rather have a developmental guy, like when we talked about this last year, when Dwayne Casey PERSON was step down slash let go slash move to a different role. We were talking about do we want an NBA ORG playoff ready coach or do we want somebody like a James Borego or Chris Finch or a Jordy Fernandez PERSON, somebody that has the developmental skill set more so than Amati Williams PERSON who is looking to probably win basketball games and go deep into the playoffs. So I wouldn't be opposed to ham, but I would prefer somebody more of that ilk.But again, it totally depends on who the Pistons ORG want to bring in for their present basketball operations and what they want to do with the rest of the team. Because they could really flip the table entirely with the roster and do something like what the Houston Rockets ORG did, which is go for pretty much everybody that's available, get a whole bunch of vets, and try to make the playoffs.

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So really quickly, there's been talk of Chauncey Billups potentially being let go in Portland ORG.

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I think we probably are all on the same page of I don't think any of us really want a retread

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at this point. I think we want a guy who has a fresh perspective on the game, who has a fresh perspective on the same page of I don't think any of us really want a retread at this point. I think we want a guy who has a fresh perspective on the game, who has a fresh perspective on coming into a head coaching position. But that being said, if you had to pick one of those three potential retreads, Ham, Billups PERSON, Frank Vogel PERSON, who are you guys going for?

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Personally, I would take Frank Vogel PERSON. Who are you guys going for? Personally, I would take Frank Vogel. When the Chanty News ORG came out, I put it up on Twitter that, like, I think Chanty could be a viable option for the Pistons ORG. And I'd imagine he'd be on their list if they did move on from Monty Williams and started talking to new candidates. And I got a lot of backlash right away from people that watch the Blazers or just the NBA in general that were like, Jontz was actually really, really bad this year.And okay, I'll take the blame there that maybe I wasn't watching a ton of Portland Trailblazers this year. I guess I didn't quite understand how bad it was. But I think Frank Vogel PERSON just has the best track record for success. It feels like you can look at his last two stops in L.A. and in Phoenix GPE and say, this guy was made the scapegoat for two teamsthat were not the best way. They were not constructed properly. And we're trying to appease stars who as players and the rest of the guys in the team are never at fault in these situations. It's always on the coach when a team.Does it win X number of games? Does it win X number of playoffs series? Does it win X number of championships? It's always on the coach. It's never on the players, never on the star players who are pressuring teams to build a rostera certain way, acquire certain players, use the assets that the team has to go out and get these guys despite it making no financial or fiscal sense. So yeah, I think Frank Vogel PERSON has been on a couple tough spots in terms of he's been with organizations, he's been with teams that have really just treated him as a scapegoat. And that's not to say he's the perfect coach by any stretch of the imagination.But he has a track record of success. And I would be, I would trust him to, to make progress in Detroit ORG, something that did not happen last year under Monti Williams PERSON. That was a team that regress, the Pistons ORG need to make progress.

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Yeah, I would rather have Frank Vogel PERSON as well. I feel bad for Chauncey, though, because he was brought in to sort of coach Dame and get them back to the playoffs, and Dame got hurt, and that all fell apart. And then he got handed a roster of sort of misfit toys with, like, with DeAndre Aten PERSON. They did get Jeremy Grant PERSON, but again, they're just, I do feel bad for him.I think that he has a place in the league with a different team. If Portland ORG does elect to go in a different direction, I don't think that it should be head coach of the Detroit Pistonsfor all of the reasons that Aaron discussed. It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense, other than the fact that you're bringing a Piston ORG legend home to be the Piston ORG Ted coach. I am kind of surprised that there was very little talk of himeven moving into a front office role because bringing up my Cleveland Cavaliers ORG again, there was a period of time when David Griffin PERSON was let go, Dan Gilbert PERSON was pushing hard for Chauncey Billups to be the general manager and take over. That I maybe could see, you know, a front office advisor role of some sort, but I don't see it as head coach. So I'd ratherhave Frank Vogel PERSON out of that bunch. But that's a tough one.

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Yeah, I don't love any of those names either.

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And I think that that based on what you guys are saying and how I see it as well, like I think that just underlines the point that the Pistons ORG need to bring in somebody new.

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Like a new voice, a new head coach, somebody who is going to, at very least, stagger their lineups. I mean, for God's sake. Somebody who pays attention to analytics. Somebody who has fresh takes on the game. I don't think that's JJ Reddick PERSON.But, at being said, like, you need to go out and you need to find that person. We have a bit of breaking news.

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I wish we had a soundboard. ESPN, Dijan, Wo Scherowski PERSON has reported that. The frontrunner for the Phoenix Sun's head coaching job is Mike Budenholzer PERSON. Okay.

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Another retread. It doesn't really swing the coaching carousel, but Okay. Another retread.

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Doesn't really swing the coach in Carrizzan GPE.

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It is a retread.

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I don't want him either.

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I think what everyone wants is like,

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where can the pistons find their Mark Dagnall PERSON?

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Where can the pistons find their Chris Finch?

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Where can the pistons find their Taylor Jenkins PERSON?

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Like, where can they find this new coach that's not been a head coach two, three, four times over and has been fired for umpteen different reasons? Where can they find the young coach that hasn't been brought into the spotlight yet? But it's just waiting for that opportunity to find himself on a young team and a good organization and make very strong progress within a few years. I don't think the Pistons ORG or the fans are asking for the Pistons to go out and find this coach that's going to turn this team to, you know, into a contender within a couple of years.One, because that's not feasible. And two, because it's not on the coach due to that alone, there has to be a lot of other factors that work with that. But I think people want to coach that is going to be worth having around for three, four, five, six, seven years and not keep falling into this cycle of after one or two seasons, you're looking at needing a new coach. And within year two, you're talking about, oh, this guy's not the right fit.This guy hasn't made the right progress. This guy's misutilizing this core guy or that poor guy. They need to find a guy that is going to be part of this culture that's going to be part of this shift in direction for this organization. And that's what I think is way more appealing than going after one of these retreads that have been on three, four, five teams at this point. It's just not going to have the same effect. The best coaches in the NBA ORG right now are these younger guys that are just getting their first or second opportunity. I'll throw Imaudoka PERSON in there simply because he was very,very good in Boston before his incident. So the Pissons need to go out and find one of those guys. I think that's way more important than looking at Frank Vogel or Darwin Ham PERSON or, you know, bringing back Monty Williams PERSON for another goal around. Like, they need to find their guy.

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This, we should move on. That being said, there is one guy that last year was on the list, I think pretty far down on it. But I want to bring up again, who I'm still interested in, Duran Collins, out of, out of New Orleans GPE. I think you look at their track record of developing wings, especially in terms of defense. I think when you have a player like Sarr Thompson PERSON in town, I think when you have a younger team, having somebody like that who is really going to be, you know, the key in locking down yourdefensive capabilities, your standards, building an identity. I think Geron Collins PERSON is a name I'm still very interested in. And when they do eventually make that pobo higher, if they do let go of Monty Williams PERSON, I would not be surprised to see him on the list again. So we should move on. But I just want to throw that out there again,like especially with Charles Lee now going to the Hornets, Kevin Ali PERSON working out exactly

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how we thought Kevin Holly would in Brooklyn ORG.

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I think that that Geron Collins PERSON absolutely still should be on the list. I know the Pelicans ORG did not do well in the playoffs, but like there was extenuating circumstances. And at this point, God, I would kill to get to the point the New Orleans Pelicans are. Also, if they do decide to trade for Brandon Ingram PERSON, that could be a very, very useful

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relationship to have. So I'm just thinking about a fact. I was going to say, are Geron Collins and Brandon Ingram PERSON a package deal? I mean, maybe.

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Well, combined, they have the same salary as Monty Williams. So you could do a one for one two for one on that one.

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And Bryson Graham PERSON was listed as a potential obo option for the Pistons as well to link another pelicans NORP. I know he has kind of...

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I haven't heard a whole lot

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about him.

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It seems like it's been centered a whole lot on Tim Connolly and John Horst PERSON, mostly. But if the wolves make it even farther, I just can't see Tim Connolly PERSON leaving

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that sort of situation.

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Just for a minute, because I know we got to move on here.

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But if the Pistons ORG land, Tim Connolly, after what he did in Denver and now Minnesota GPE, like, is he at this point just trying to, like, build a championship team and then move to another organization and build a team good enough to beat that team. I mean, that would be as much of a home run hire as a home run hire could be.I can't imagine that that's a feasible option. I know it's been reported that they'd like him. But wow, if the Pistons could land Tim Connolly after what he's done in Denver and now Minnesota GPE, like that would be a hell of a coup.

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I think you're praying that the Timberwolves ORG ownership situation is what dictates that, right? Like, you have to be hoping that Glenn Taylor and A-Rod PERSON and like that whole situation that it just becomes untenable. And he goes, God PERSON knows, I've left jobs before because I'm like, ownership here is not, I like this place. Ownership does not work for me on that. So, hey, who's to say he wouldn't do the same thing and get a chance to build another contender,knock on wood? Yep.

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Well, let's do just what we were saying we were going to do like four minutes ago

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and move on to our next topic, which is, hey, the NBA ORG draft.

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The lottery is on Sunday. Imagine that. It's at 3 p.m. Eastern Standard time. The pitisans have a 14% chance at the number one overall pick. They have a 40-ish percent chance to get the number one overall pick. The worst they could do is fifth.This is a relatively weak draft. I spoke about it briefly in the weekly drive last week about how there is an executive who is on the record to say that this is the worst draft he's ever seen. I think that's a little bit hyperbole, a little bit of hyperbole because that's just, there are good players here. You know, there's just no Victor Wemnon Yama, Pallel Bencaro, Jalen Green, Evan Mobley PERSON,Cade Cunningham, Scotty Barnes PERSON, list of just jewels at the top end. But they're still good players there. So by the time we talk next, the Pistons ORG are going to have their draft fate already decided of where they're picking. So for today, we're just going to talk about what if they land the first overall pick? It would be so Pistons of them to lay on the first overall pick in the worst received draftpossible. So let's just assume that they are going to get the first overall pick. And I guess before we get into specific players, because we're just going to talk about someone. If the Pistons get the first overall pick, given the situation that they are in with their roster,with a present basketball operations coming in, probably a new general manager, prayer circle, hopefully a new general manager, and potentially new head coach, and potentially dangling a bunch of players to acquire a star, if the Pistons land pick number one,are you guys in the camp of they should trade the number one overall pick?

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Yes, I am in the camp of the Pistons ORG should be trying to leverage whatever number pick they land as part of a package to get a win now type of player to improve this roster. Again, and this is because this draft is considered to be so poor, you know, the number one pick isn't going to land you the typical star, all-star type player that it does in other years. You might have to attach more than, you know, you might have to attach a significant corepiece alongside it to get an all-star level guy, you know, in the market this year, whether that's Brandon Ingram or Dejante Murray. I know those are some of the popular names that often get talked about as, you know, those guys that the Pistons ORG might be able to go after. But, yeah, the Pistons ORG should be using that as a trade chip. I think all things considered.I think they just, they need to take a major step forward next year. It's easier to do that if you're leveraging some of your assets into guys that are going to be able to play around and greatly help Kate Cunningham PERSON, your franchise guy. So I would be trying to leverage that pick into something else. But, you know, there's also a world where they obviously do use it. And I think that they can still improve the team, obviously, by using it.But I think trading it makes more sense for the future.

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There's definitely, there's a lot that goes into this. One, it depends who's looking for what. This is a very, like, point guard and big man have top heavy draft here. So I think that there are certain teams that if they are inclined to move off their stars, I think that there is definitely opportunity. I look at, like we've mentioned, the Pelicans ORG as definitely being a team that could be lookingto draft, say, like an Alex Sar type, move on from Valanchunis PERSON, maybe Brandon Ingram becomes available there, as they do still have a glut of wings on the roster. I think maybe if the Clippers decide to blow it up this year, that could also be a potentially intriguing destination for the number one overall pick. Perhaps they decide to move on from, you know, Paul George and Zubach PERSON. Like, I don't know. I think that there's definite opportunity to move that pick to some teams that mightneed that top of the draft help, not necessarily looking to fully rebuild, but take a step forward while also, you know, shoring up their assets for the future, kind of taking a bite of each apple, if you will. So while I think I personally would prefer to hold onto the pick, I just think it gives you more, more leverage moving forward. And the reason is because I'm just not all that enthralled with a lot of the young talent that Pistons ORG have on this roster. And I do think there are a couple of guys at the top of this draft that if the Pistons ORG do getnumber one pick, they should really be looking at. A couple of guys that do fit that mold. If you're getting the third pick, I think the math changes a little bit for me. And I'm probably shopping it. But I think if I get the number one overall pick, I personally have a player that I'm very, very interested in the Pistons ORG acquiring because I think he bet both is the most talentedplayer and also fits the Pistons ORG needs the best.

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It's funny that you say that because I almost think I'd be more inclined to keep the pick if they ended up falling to like four or five. Again, because I think there's a specific player there that you can take at four or five that even in this year's draft is probably not the number one pick. But that's interesting.I think it's funny that we're kind of on the flip side of that.

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But I'm ready to talk about these prospects. I don't like this mid-lottery. I don't really like it, but I know

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there's a couple players you do. So let's get into it. Let's get into it. Jasper PERSON, you would keep

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the picks. Why don't you go first? Who would you take number one overall? For me, I'm looking at

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Zachary Bezaché. I think that this is the only guy with the number one pick that I would really be like,

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okay, cool. I think you did something that's going to at very least produce a high level NBA ORG player here. There's a lot of other talents. Let's not get a twisted. And we're going to talk about a couple of them. But for me, I think Riza Shea PERSON, he just fits exactly what the pistons need.He's 6'8, 19 years old. He shot pretty dang well from outside in EuroLeague ORG. I mean, let's see. I have a stats in front of me. For his career, 207.3 point attempts. He's shooting 40%. I know he didn't shoot as wellfrom three this last year, but like he has way more of a track record than any of the other guys who are being mentioned at the top of this draft in terms of shooting. He fits another need for them. Like I think you can slot him in at small forward or power forward, which we've been talking about the lack of wings on this roster for how long? If you can put him, and he's a slightly less athletic, explosive player alongside Thompson PERSON, I think you're instantly looking at a front court that is deadly defensively. Reza Shea, to me, is I know a lot of people love Alex Sars PERSON defense.I think Riza Shea has probably more defensive upside in terms of what like NBA ORG players, especially on the wing, are asked to do. I think he could be a really, really useful piece for this organization. And even if he doesn't blossom into a superstar, like I said, he fits that need. You need wings. You need talented wings.And the piss in the defense has just been so bad over the last few years. I think if you can put two guys together on that perimeter who can also bang a little bit inside, who can play a little bit of power forward, so you can go small or you can play big with both of them. To me, that's setting you up for a very versatile roster and one that can really work around a player like Kate Cunningham PERSON who needs slasher's, who needs cutters, who need shooters.For me, Risa Shea PERSON is the only slam dunk at the top of the draft. For me, that being said, there are other interesting players. I just think that he's the only one that really fits what I'm looking for unless you're a big fan of Alex Sar and you're really, really ready to move on from Jalen Durr PERSON. Aaron, that's a softball of a segue.

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It pains me to say this because I know the Pistons ORG have such a checkered history

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using their first round draft pick on a player from France GPE.

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But if I were picking one right now and had to make a draft pick,

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had to make a selection,

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Alex Sart is my choice for the Detroit Pistons ORG. And here's why. Seven foot tall, seven four and a half QUANTITY wingspan, has a very good projection on the defensive side of the floor. Somewhere that if the Pistons ORG are ever going to seriously get better, they have to improve on that end. One of the biggest pain points this year was this team's interior defense led under Jalen Duren PERSON,which was very, very poor. Sarr PERSON projects to be really, really good defensive big. There's a world where he can play, you know, at the five, obviously, but there's also a world where he could play at the four. That's probably more dependent on him extending out with his range and becoming more of a shooter.You know, he can do a little bit, but he's not a three-point shooter yet or anything like that. But there's a world where you can make him and Jalen Dern PERSON work down the line. And this pick could also serve as a motivational factor for Jalen Duren PERSON to either, hey, you're figuring it out here, or you're going to be coming off the bench, or you're going to be gone.So I think Sargis PERSON has a lot of the intangibles that I think stand out the most to me in a draft that doesn't have a clear-cut number one guy or a guy with clear-cut star capability. He's got the size. He's got the athleticism. He's got the mobility. He's got the defensive acumen of a player that is going to have a good career in the NBA ORG. There's the stuff he can do influrries. You know, he can shoot the mid-range jumpers, you know, at times. He's comfortable bringing the ball up the floor, you know, trying to go coast to coast. You can finish at the rim, obviously. So, you know, is he the fl to coast, can finish at the rim, obviously. So, you know, is he the flashiest number one pick? Definitely not. I think a guy like Risha Shea PERSON has more of that, that flashiness to him, playing on the wing, having some of the explosiveness that he has, having the three-point shooting numbersthat he has despite going through a cold stretch in the middle of his season DATE. But I think Sargers PERSON is a little bit safer. His ceiling is a little bit safer. And he helps this team on a side of the floor where they really, really do need help. And one other thing that all he had here is, if Troy Weaver PERSON still around, if the pistons are still operating with that mindset of you know wanting to play twobigs on the court together that potential is there uh with sar and durran it's not going to look good offensively but it just would kind of fall in line with the pistons uh way of working under troy weaver despite that meaning you're probably looking at a starting front court of Assar Thompson, Alex Sar, and Jane Linder PERSON. Not that that's a lot to happen or anything, but you know the Pistons will go to that at some point if all three of those guys are on the roster next year. But that's another thing to keep in mind.The Pistons love that idea of playing with two bigs. Saar projects as a guy that's going to be able to play the four and the five. But overall, I think SAR is probably the safest option at number one. And as scary as it is, buying stock of a guy that the Pistons could use a first round pick of that's from France GPE. There's definitely no history that suggests that would be a bad idea. And there's definitely no history that has me saying be a bad idea and there's definitely no history that has mesaying that the Piston should use the number one pick in the draft on a guy from France GPE. There's definitely no none of that out there, but I am saying it here. I think Alex Sarr PERSON should be the guy for the Pistons should they land the top pick in the 2024 NBA ORG draft.

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Well, I wouldn't have minded if they'd used the number one pick last year on a Frenchman NORP. I'll tell you that much. Fair. Would have been nice. Would have been nice.

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The Frenchman that won rookie of the year and was nominated for defensive player of the year

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in his rookie year, which is insane.

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Finish second, and I think you could make the very strong argument.

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He should have been first. I was watching a highlight clip the other day of just players like dribbling to the basket and seeing Victor Wyman Yamma PERSON and going, nope, it was a struly and straight back out to the perimeter. Yeah.

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And I don't blame them.

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When he dunked over, who did he dunk over on the Miami Heat and just Thomas Bryant PERSON.

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And Thomas Bryant PERSON looks back and is like, what do you want me to do? Yeah, just a freak.

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Last year's draft. You were so painful. They'll probably get the first pick this year.

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So it's a good thing that we're doing this. Yeah, SAR ORG is probably up there with my

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pick as well, because I think that does allow you to move on from Duren PERSON and feel a little bit more comfortable about it. As someone who watches a dual big starting lineup, I for one, don't want to watch a dual big starting lineup anymore and I don't believe in it unless you have very specific personnel. Unless you're getting Dirk at the four, then I don't think it's going to work. But that's a very specific case. So I'm going to go off the beaten path. I'm going to go with friend of the pod Tim Forkin PERSON's favorite player in this draft,

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and that's Dalton Connect PERSON.

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NBA draft.net has him number three. I've seen him go anywhere from 4 to 11 in a lot of mock drafts. That's the other thing. When you look at mocks for this draft, they are just all over the place. There are guys going, like, Saar is going three in one draft or one in CBS Sports ORG. He's going 12th in another draft. It's just, it's insane.But I'm going to go with Dalton Connect PERSON. I think he's the most NBA ORG ready. And I'm operating under the assumption the Pistons ORG are going to want to compete or at least not be the worst team in the league and put together good players. And they're going to want to do it fairly like soon like now like trading ivy durand get a NBA ORG ready guy and don't connect kind of fits right into that he is older he's already 23 years oldbut he is probably one of the most polished players in the draft um he is a guy that you don't have to worry about with getting his own shot he can handle that on his own, which some pistons had some trouble doing outside of Cade Cunningham PERSON. And occasionally, Jaden Ivy, six foot six, has a pretty good wingspan. He's a crafty finisher. He's not afraid to shoot the ball. He can go up and get a lob.He's not a standout defender. But I think you're willing to take that risk with a guy who can go out and get his own shot, who is not afraid to shoot the ball, not afraid to shoot from deep. He gets to the free throw line at a pretty good rate. And again, he's more of a vet. So if the pistons are keeping their pick, but moving on from Duren, moving on from Ivy PERSON, packaging them up with future assets or whatever to try to get a win now player.A guy like Dalton Connect, you just slot right in there at the two or the three. Says he's guard small forward. He can fit the two or the three that would push Sartompson maybe up to the four, which we've kind of talked about as him being able to do. And then you have a really lanky starting lineup. And I think that at least presents a wrinkle that the pistons may not have had if theywould go with a standard pick like SAR ORG, who does make a lot of sense. But, you know, he's younger. He's more unfinished and French NORP thing. You know, we're a little spooked by the whole French NORP. But if it was me, I would take take Dalton Connect PERSON, see how it goes. I think he slots in really well for what the Pistons ORG are trying to do.And you could probably trade back and, you know, still be able to get him. And that would be acceptable to me as well.

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Yeah, that was what I, that's who I was alluding to when I talked about, oh, if the Pistons fell to four or five, like I'd be comfortable using that pick because there's a world where Dalton Connect is my number one pick as well. I just maybe don't have the courage to go out there and say it. I really do like him. And I think he's such a plug and play type of guy. It's so easy to envision him coming in day one and helping this team right away. And it makes sense in terms of fit so much with this team. Like, when will the Pistons just employ a lineup around Cade PERSON of guys that can shoot?Like, I mean, I think to use a Twitter term, a lineup of Kate Cunningham, Dalton Connect PERSON, Simone Fentechio, Assar Thompson PERSON, and either Isaiah Stewart or Jalen Dern PERSON, like that lineup would feed families, as they say, on X. So I wish the Pistons would embrace the idea of putting more shooters around Cade PERSON. You know, I think there's been so much talk about it was Cade 1. It's C2. Does it need another ball handler out there? Like, we've never really seen this team just say,yes, K PERSON, you are the ball handler, but we're also going to put guys out there that fit around you that make it easier for you to initiate the offense, go out and be the player that you are, and let's put guys that fit around you. They haven't.They put all these guys that want to handle the ball in spurts, but aren't the best finishers at the rim, aren't the best shooters, don't defend well. And that's why they took, you know, that's part of the reason why they took such a big step back last year. So getting a guy like Connect PRODUCT makes so much sense for this team.And if there's a world where, you know, they land the number one pick and they can trade back to four, five, six, seven and, and get something else back and still being able to get Connect PRODUCT, like, that would be a, I think, a really successful operation for the Pistons ORG. So I like where your head's at, Mike.

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If I can add one more thing real fast before Jasper PERSON jumps in, because I saw the unmute and the mute. Cunningham, Ivy, Thompson, Stewart, and Duren, Dalton Connect PERSON be the oldest among those players. He's older than all of them at 23. So let's put that into perspective that a rookie would be the actual adult in the room.

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He's older than Stewart PERSON?

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Yeah.

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Isaiah Stewart is 22 years old. Yeah, Stuart's younger than Kate PERSON, I'm pretty sure, right?

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Cade PERSON is just a hair younger.

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Okay.

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Isaiah Stewart's going in a year five, and he's younger.

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He's young, man.

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Dalton Connect PERSON.

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Wow.

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But, like, that doesn't faze me with just this draft again, like the whole like, you know,

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if someone were to say Dalton Connect's too old, you can't take a 23, 24 year old with a top pick.

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Like who's the young guy in this draft that you absolutely have to have? Like, again, no one in this draft screams star to me or anything. Like go get a guy that they can help you get better and come in and play for you right away. That's what Connect is for Detroit ORG and for any team that drafts him. Like, there's no reason to draft all in Connect PRODUCT and feel like, oh, we're going to have to take it slow with him.It's going to take a couple of years before it can play for us. No, he's got the skill set to go out there and play for you right away. And I think that's what makes him such an appealing target for Detroit ORG as well as just being such a good fit with the shooting and the offensive skill set that he has.

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I don't disagree with with that, genuinely. Like, I think much like the rest of Europe in 1805, you're justified in being afraid of the French NORP, right? So if you do get the number one pick and you don't love either Saar or Resachet PERSON, and you do look at a guy like Connect PRODUCT. I'm not necessarily opposed to him, but I think if you're going to take him, you have to be trading down. You have to.And I think that's where you can really perhaps talk, you know, talk yourself into, you know, moving down a little bit in the draft. The problem is I just don't know who is trying to move up in this draft, right? Like, this is not a, this is just not one of those situations where it's like, oh, we need a top three big. No. Like, unless you absolutely love Alexar or you're like, oh, I need a Nicola Topich PERSON. Like, I just can't see any of those teams in the lottery feeling that way.Perhaps, like, I don't even know. I'm genuinely trying to think, like, who would be so inclined as to move up in this draft in order to get one of those guys? Perhaps, like, I'm thinking maybe Charlotte GPE, like, maybe you could, maybe you could trade with Charlotte GPE. If they hadn't paid, what's his name again, the Austrian, Jakub Pertl PERSON, perhaps youcould see the Toronto Raptors wanting to trade up a little bit. Like, I could see the Raptors ORG maybe wanting to go out and get a big man, maybe go out and get themselves a point guard. But the problem is with this draft, there's like five point guards that you could justify taking in the top seven, eight picks of this draft.So I just think a trade down is going to be very difficult. And that's like you said, Aaron, maybe there is a world in where you're almost kind of hoping you get the fourth, fifth pick, because it makes your decision a lot easier in that sense, doesn't?

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Yeah, look, I think if you're picking at one, you're probably, you know, despite they're not being a top pick, a top guy in this, this draft class, there's still probably like a top three tier that's probably safely ahead of everyone else. Maybe it extends to four or five guys, but like, I just don't know if someone like Dalton PERSON connect, as much as I like him personally, I don't know if he's in that grouping. Like, Sarr is, Risha Shea is, Topich probably is, and then like are the two Kentucky ORG guards Rob Dillingham and Reed Shepherd in there? And then is everyone else after that just kind of like a five through 14 type of situation?I don't know. Like there is a team. You would obviously be able to trade back out of one to five, six or seven. It's just like, are you getting anything of that much value to trade back? Like you could just take Alex Tsar PERSON and say, we've got a defensive foundational piece long term with this guy.And it allows us to kind of set the clock back at the center position. If we don't want to trade Jayland Durr, or if we don't want to pay Jalen Duren PERSON, we can trade him. We can bring him off the bench. We can try something else. Now we don't have to go out and try to spend $25 million a year on Nicholas Claxton PERSON. There's, you know, there's a world where that just makes sense. But if there's a way to get back a useful player, you know, if you can get a team that lands at six or seven or eight,like, I don't even know. Gary Trent might be a free agent this year. But like, if you could get Gary Trent in the sixth pick and use that pick to get Dalton Connect PERSON, like, I don't know. Maybe if you liked Connect as a, you know, was in your top three on your big board, maybe that makes sense because you're now getting another good player, you know, or another useful rotation guy in Gary Trent PERSON that, you know, can come in and play minutes on the wings,and can shoot and score the ball a little bit. I don't know. I'm just kind of thinking out loud there. But maybe there's a world where that makes sense. It's just the value has to be there to trade back. Otherwise,it probably just makes sense to take a Rish and say or a SAR and go from there.

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Like,

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even if you could,

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even if you could guarantee me that Dalton Connect will develop into prime JJ Reddick PERSON, I can't justify spending the number one overall pick on that.

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Like, I just, sure, not.

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There's too many other positions on the floor that are more important. And I know shooting matters. And I know, especially for this team, shooting matters. I just, I can't justify passing up on a greater potential talent at a more meaningful position at small forward, just the forward position, the wing position, because that's really what it is now. You know, small board, power board, shooting guard to a certain extent, they don't matter as much.I just think I have to take her as a shay there. I just have to. I like SAR. I Rizash there. I just have to. I like SAR. I can see the justification. But like how many times have I said it on this podcast and in real life? You win on the wings and the NBA ORG.And you look at the wings in this draft. To me, there's only one who has actual star presidential. It's Rizs a Shea PERSON. So I have to take that risk. I have to. I risk. I have to.

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I'll add one more thing, and then I'll let you guys give your last comments, and then we'll wrap up the podcast. But just looking at the mock and outside the lottery is still, you know, a little bit in flux because of playoffs, seating and whatnot. But teams that, you know, I could potentially see moving up or trying to move up, if the Hawks decide they want to blow it up and move on from Trey Young and move on from Dejante Murray and re-sign Jalen Johnson PERSON and see what they could do with that.That's a team that I think, well, one, they could probably trade Trey Young and Murray PERSON and be able to move up to wherever they want to move up. I think the Bulls ORG are a team. And if they decided to blow it up, they might do something rash and try to move up. Like if they are at five and they think, well, what is it going to cost us to get up to one? I don't know what that trade looks like. Just in a vacuum, I could see them trying to do something to speed up the rebuild that they should have started like three years ago.The Miami Heat, I don't have a rock solid source, but I've heard rumblings that Jimmy Butler PERSON could be on the move. And after Pat Riley just dismissed him very flatly, it wouldn't surprise me if they, you know, decide to move on from Butler and build around Harrow PERSON and Jaime Hakez and do their Miami Heat thing where they're going to be good in two years because that's just how it works with them. That's less likely. But the Bulls and the Hawks, I think, are two teams that right now, I think they're somewherebetween 10 and 14 because they're both of the play-in teams. I think they're somewhere between 10 and 14 because they're both of the play-in teams. If they decide, yeah, this isn't going to work. Trey Young PERSON changes agents. DeJante Murray was on the block last year. Those are two teams I think could want to speed up there.Even if the Pistons land at three, if somebody becomes available, if Dalton Connect is at three, and they get an offer from Atlanta to move up or Chicago to move up and do that. I mean, that's at least something that the pistons would have to entertain. It's depending on whatever you are going to get back. So I'll say this.

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I'm sorry, just real quick. You can come up this draft having traded the number one pick

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to Atlanta

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and you somehow get back

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to Jante Murray

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and you get the chance

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to draft Ron Holland

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like new pobo

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I'm a big fan.

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Take the risk.

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I would happily do something like that.

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If you could move Ivy in the number one pick for Murray PERSON and you get back Ron Holland PERSON or something like that, like I'd be super duper. I would very much be.

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Yeah, I would too. I mean, I think you're not in a position where you, you know, you need as many bullets in the chamber as possible and doing something like that, a consolidation move that we've talked about for like three years now at this point, a consolidation move that gets you higher quality players, like a Murray, like a Trey Young, not a Zach Levine, but players that are NBA ORG ready plug in and play, you're not banking on 17, 18, 19 year old kids to develop in four or five years, which is kind of theturnoff for me for some of the younger international players because you are, you know, you're pushing your timeline further and further out when your timeline is already kind of super late as it is. But yeah, if you can get a Ron Holland at 10 or 11 and you get to Jante Murray, I mean, that's a huge, huge win on something that the Pistons ORG would have to do. And I'd be very disappointed if I found out that they passed on that to take, you know, Sarr PERSON at one.

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Yeah, at the top of the show or at the top of this discussion.

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I think it makes all the sense in the world for the Pistons ORG to be trying to leverage wherever they land in the draft, wherever they land in the lottery. They should be trying to leverage that into a win now player, whether they are able to use that pick solely to do so, or they have to attach a core guy not named Cade Cunningham PERSON to do so. All options should be on the table for the Pistons to improve this team around Cate Cunningham PERSON, if they're going to take this step forward. If they're going to move forward with Cate Cunningham PERSON as this franchise guy that I think

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most people feel that he is, like not to go off on a tangent, but you look at the former number one picks, like guys like Anthony Edwards, guys like Pilo Bangaro PERSON, like they've been handed the reins, they've been given a team that's built around them and built to allow them to be the best player that they can be. And they are flourishing. And the Pissons have done the exact opposite with Kate Cunningham PERSON. So there can be all that talk on Kate's not lived up to being the number one pick.You know, Kate's not been that number one pick type of guy like Van Carroll or Edwards PERSON have been. But if you look at the teams that those guys have been given and the team that Kate Cunningham has been given year in and year out, there's a direct correlation in why they are succeeding and why they are flourishing and why Cunningham PERSON is just trying to essentially tread water with such a poor, poor roster construction, an unstable organization around him.Things have to change. And one way that does is for the Pistons to say, look, we're committed to you, Cade PERSON. We're committed to getting this thing turned around. And we're going to use some of our assets to find a way to get guys that best suit you and helping turn this thing around.

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Yeah, even if you do take a project, the priority this offseason after that has to be building up the roster. There's no question about it. And I'm glad you brought up Anthony Edwards and Paolo Boncaro because those are two guys who are seeing their team succeed, you know, and people can create all the narratives they want.But when you look at the per 100 numbers, when you look at the efficiency numbers, he's right there with him. He's right there with him. And the difference is coaching and roster construction. So I think we're going to kind of end this podcast on the same tone that we started it with.Pistons absolutely need to figure out those two aspects this offseason because if they don't, it's going to get a lot uglier, uglier before it gets.

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Yeah, someone who just watched seven games of the Orlando Magic ORG, they need a shooter so freaking bad. And as soon as they get somebody that can do that, even semi-regularly, they're going to be terrifying because Paulo PERSON is that dude. He showed that in game seven with 38 points. He is that dude and he's ready. And that's kind of where we thought the Pistons were going to be with Cade after a couple years of, hey, they, you know, they augmentedtheir roster around him, but it just hasn't worked out. Hopefully they are taking a different approach this offseason with a new president of basketball operations and we're going to know in a week where they're going to be picking and we'll be able to talk in greater detail about where the pistons are going to be going and what direction they are going to be moving and where they're going to be making a draft pick and you know who knows maybe maybe if they get five again rolls rolls eyes strongly into the back of my head to where my head falls off,then we could, you know, maybe just take a player that fits a little bit better. But guys, anything else before we wrap up this edition of the podcast?

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No, here's what I'll end with, right? The lottery Sunday. We'll have more content coming Monday as soon as Monday with Mike's weekly drive email, and then I'll have something shortly after that in your email feeds on who the Pistons ORG could take with whatever, whatever pick they land in the draft lottery. So you need to go to palace of pistons.com and go take 25 seconds to typein your email hit subscribe it's free and you're going to benefit from it so take that 30 seconds help us out and get that content directly to your inboxes we're going to have it coming right

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after the lottery on Sunday yeah you expect more from us, especially after this Sunday when the piss and solidify where they'll be taking. We'll have a little bit more for you on that. We'll definitely be talking about prospects, you know, who we want. And I think of this as the amuse bouch of our draft breakdown. This is just a little taste.We'll be giving you the full meal soon enough. So I'm looking forward to seeing it. It's not the sexiest draft, but you know what? It's an important one. So we will definitely be on that. Look forward to more from us coming to more.For coming soon.

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My God, talking is different.

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That's a sign of me to end to the show when all of the words just get thrown into a blender.

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