Ep. 120: Trial of the Incredible Hulk featuring Tommy Bechtold

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It's Mark's miserable, marvelous May. It's Mark's miserable, marvelous, May. M-A-R-C, miserable, marvelous. M-A-R-C, miserable, marvelous. M-A-R-C, miserable, marvelous. M-A-Y.May! Music! Music. Hey, everybody, welcome to the New World Pictures ORG podcast.

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We're going to talk about every movie released by New World Pictures ORG. I'm Ryan PERSON. With me as always is Mark PERSON? You know, guys, I got to say, I really liked this one. Oh, and Erica PERSON. What is happening?Hold on. You didn't give me the right response because you didn't give me time to say,

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I didn't fucking like this at all. I'm running with it. No, no, no, I'm running with it. I'm not giving you that time. I'm not giving you that space. Mark PERSON loves this movie. Let's move on.

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Joining us for this episode. He is a returning guest if you remember from our DefCon 4 LAW episode. of course you remember. All of you remember.

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He's an actor, comedian. You've seen him on the middle. You've seen him on the Guardians of the Pallixie ORG YouTube show. Please welcome back Tommy Becktold PERSON to the show.

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Hi.

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Oh, anything criminal justice, you got me.

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Anytime there's a trial, I'm in.

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Right.

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I have some questions like, do you know of the old show of The Incredible Hulk and the Daredevil WORK_OF_ART?

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But really, I wanted to know, like, how into trials are you?

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Well, let's just say business law 10th grade.

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I wrongfully convicted a man of fraud due to student popularity.

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He was improperly defended by

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the defense team and I got the votes from the jury because they liked me better. I was

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more affable. I was

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funnier. I was like a little looser.

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You know, I might have said a couple of swear words.

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Also, do I know

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the old Hulk PERSON show? You better believe I do.

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Mr. Rogers PERSON has a great

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episode where he explains that Lou Freigno PERSON's nothing to be afraid

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of. He shows us Bill Biggsby and Lou Fragno PERSON, they do the whole makeup thing. And I spent

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my whole life thinking Lou Fragno was a doll. Until two years ago, when I did the show,

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the offer with Lou Fragno, and he beat the shit out of me for eight hours in our scene.

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That's right. That's right.

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Was deleted, unfortunately, but he did.

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He beat me up and couldn't have been nicer about it.

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But it was eight hours of him slapping me around.

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Was he kind of Jean-Claude Van Damme PERSON about it?

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Or did he not hit you?

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No, he was very gentle and terrified that he, after every single take, he apologized profusely,

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didn't need to. And kept saying, like, what do you do me? I know. And I was like, nothing. You're doing great. You could.He kept saying if he was a little younger, he would just lift me up himself instead of me doing some of the like lifting for him.

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Okay. Sure.

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He's like, I could do it. They won't let me. I was like, I'm sure they can lose.

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And at the end of the day, for the first time in my entire career, I asked him to take a picture with me and we took a picture into direct sunlight.

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And he said, he told me, that was horrible and then took a better picture. So it was great because I got cut out of the show ultimately. But the proof I have is me and Lou PERSON and a nice little selfie.

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And you have this experience of getting your ass kicked by the Incredible Hulk.

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I mean, that is, and I did not even know that story before we got you into this, and that's incredible. I saved it. I saved it for you.

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That's awesome. It's on no socials.

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Do you save it purely for this? That's wonderful. Just this podcast where I always give my exclusive scoops. Just, anyway, the door is always open.

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Let us know when you need to get on and get a scoop out. Newsflash, everybody.

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We'll get to the movie in a minute, but I've got to tell you the word on the street.

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Before we get to the movie, it's time for Tommy Scoops PERSON.

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And I will say I normally find most on-set experiences are pretty mundane, but it was hilarious to have this poor guy over and over again

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have to just kick the shit out of me.

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The whole point was that he was just very angry with me.

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And then it got turned into, like, we understand the editing process.

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One of the characters said, he beat up the caterer,

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and I knew I was cut out of the show.

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Because I was like, why would they say that as a lie earlier in the episode?

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I was like, I'm out of this thing.

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Oh, no.

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The OC WORK_OF_ART didn't know until you saw the episode.

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No, they promoted me in the episode that day.

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I was like, all right, here we go. Startem. Here we go. But, you know, you take the bad.

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You take the bad. Add them up and what do you have? The trial of the Incredible Hall. That's right, Tommy PERSON. You're joining us for Mark PERSON's miserable, Marvelous May 2.More miserable. And that's where we talk about all the movies released by New World Pictures when they owned Marvel because they owned Marvel in the late 80s. And it's Mark's favorite month.

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It's so good.

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I look forward to it every year.

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Mark, what's your favorite MCU ORG film?

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I mean, there's so many to pick from.

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Name one of them.

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Name a single one of them.

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Their full real title. Don't look it up.

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The Wrath of Khan WORK_OF_ART?

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Extremely good one. Extremely good one.

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A fan favorite. Good, good, good.

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All right, and of course, we are gathered together to talk about

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1989's The Trial of the Incredible Hulk WORK_OF_ART.

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David Banner PERSON wanted to end the running.

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He wanted to live in peace.

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You have to stop something. But once again, they made him angry. Maybe angry enough to kill. Maybe I belong in a cage. Now, imprisoned. He will struggle to hide the fury within him.But he will not succeed. I can't stand trial. You have no choice. Because now David Banner faces his greatest trial, the trial of the incredible Hulk PERSON.

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I mean, what a great movie. I just, I feel like it's important to know four years later Jurassic Park WORK_OF_ART came out.

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The leap

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in cinema from 89 to 93

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is truly incredible.

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Yeah.

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What, I mean, whoa.

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Incredible for

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Jurassic Park WORK_OF_ART.

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Not as much for the trial.

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Not as much for the trial.

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Yeah.

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But yes, 1989's trial

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of the Incredible Hulk brought to you by

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Wilson PERSON's hover rafts.

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Say goodbye to traffic because you'll never be bumper to bumper again in Wilson PERSON's hover rafts.

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We've taken the technology of an airboat, put it on a raft, and decided it was aerodynamic.

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And somehow it is.

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How is it possible, you ask?

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We just don't know.

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But don't let that stop you from enjoying a brisk ride in the sky with Wilson PERSON's hover rafts.

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Oh, wow.

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Wow, that is perfect.

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That is perfect.

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Nice.

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I mean, more great movies need hover rafts.

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They do.

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Yeah. They do. This is directed and

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produced and starring Bill Bixby. Just like he did with the other two Incredible Hulk PERSON movies,

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we talked last year, the death of the Incredible Hulk, because when it comes to franchises at this

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podcast, we like to start and reverse franchise order.

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So we'll get eventually to the return of the Incredible Hulk, probably next year.

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But he was doing more directing than acting at this point.

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In fact, he had recently directed two episodes of a New World TV show called Murphy's Law that never went beyond one episode.

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Yeah.

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It was like lasted for like six episodes.

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Yeah.

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You didn't have to live it long.

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You didn't have to love it long.

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I was the only one.

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He also directed eight episodes of New World's Sledgehammer TV ORG as well.

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He loved directing, as he told the Canadian press in 1989.

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He says, the thing I love about directing is that you have to make a decision every 10 seconds.

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That makes it very interesting. I never get bored directing. There's no time, said Bill Bixby PERSON and I in a condescending tone for no good reason. One of the most, like, lovely gentleman by all all accounts and I just said to sound like a jerk

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a little arrogant though

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I mean

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come up

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it's a little bit

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himself

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but that's what happens

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when you direct

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Murphy's Law

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and as I always say

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Murphy Brown

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I'm down

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Murphy's Law

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hell no

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and that's how I'm

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that's all with for me

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that's just one of your

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sayings

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that's just one of your always you. That's just one of your,

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you've always said that.

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Many.

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I've always heard you say that.

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That's your catchphrase.

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I love that one.

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It's a great one.

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He also loved Vancouver GPE,

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which he discovered as a location and used it for this.

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He discovered it while shooting those Murphy Law WORK_OF_ART episodes.

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And he said to the Canadian NORP press,

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quote,

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I immediately started looking for a property,

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meaning another project.

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It's just too beautiful a city and the people are great.

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He was talking about moving to Vancouver GPE and becoming a citizen and he had a secret

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other television show that he wanted to make there. I'm not sure he ever made it, but he did shoot the Death of Incredible Hulk also in Vancouver GPE.

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This also stars Rex Smith PERSON as

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Matt Murdoch PERSON, aka

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Daredevil PERSON.

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Yes, it does.

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Smith PERSON, it does. He's in this.

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There's no doubt about it.

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Smith PERSON was a singer who became a

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Broadway musical actor that

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appeared in such shows as

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the Pirates of Panzance WORK_OF_ART. He was also in the film version and Greece on Broadway.

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And then he secured this top 10 hit called Take My Breath WORK_OF_ART Away. Not that Take My Breath WORK_OF_ART Away. I don't know what to say.

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You take my breath away. You're every song I sing. You're the music that I play. And you take my breath away. Now, is it wrong for me to admit that I remember that song?

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Oh!

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It's what, 1979, it was a top 10 hit, so I'm sure it was played on repeat.

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I seen the album cover for this one. I went, I've seen that record.

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Yeah, I've seen that record places. That's a pretty big flex to, like, say someone takes your breath away and hold the note for that long. It's impressive.

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It'd be a lot better if he was like, you take my breath away.

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Take my breath.

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And then the rest of the song is just an instrumental.

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Just him like, oh, ha, ha.

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He'll choke the videos of him choking and trying to pound some breath back into himself.

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Did he star with Lou Diamond Phillips PERSON in any of those musicals?

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I don't know.

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I don't think so.

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I don't think so.

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He was, though, he was also in the short-lived 1985 TV series Street Hawk WORK_OF_ART.

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Do you remember Street Hawk, Mark PERSON?

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I don't.

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He was on a motorcycle.

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It was a policeman on a motorcycle.

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It lasted one whole season.

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And, interestingly, was also up for the role of Batman and Tim Burton's adaptation that was

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released the same year.

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In fact, he was told by an executive at Warner Brothers that he was going to be the guy.

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That's what he told IGN ORG.

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So Warner Brothers wanted him. Tim Burton wanted Michael Keaton PERSON.

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We'll let history decide what happened there.

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They've been messed up big time with you.

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Sorry, Michael Keaton PERSON.

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They screwed up.

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They'd still be making Tim Burton Batman PERSON's.

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If Rex Smith PERSON was the guy.

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If Rex PERSON had gotten the job, we'd still be in that universe.

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Yeah, but instead, you only did two and out.

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Here's where you...

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Keaton PERSON double dip, as they say.

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Another thing you always love to say.

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That's good. It's another one of my

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catchphrases. Sorry, guys.

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You can't help yourself. You're nothing

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without those catchphrases.

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Here's where you can watch the Incredible Hulk.

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It's on Pluto and Plex PRODUCT.

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You can also watch it on

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this double feature DVD, including return of the Incredible Hulk as well.

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Wow.

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Both movies right there, anytime you want it.

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Don't tell your friends, though, because they'll be asking to borrow it constantly.

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Can I borrow it and also a DVD player?

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The Incredible Hulk is such an interesting Marvel ORG property because I had so many Incredible Hulk toys growing up.

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Of all action figures, giant sized dolls, like, the Incredible Hulk stayed in the toy popularity forever.

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But the show, I feel like it barely, I mean, I was in the zone in the late 80s,

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early 90s of TV and, like, The Incredible Hawk WORK_OF_ART wasn't a must-see TV thing for me.

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And I'm wondering now, where did they go wrong?

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Yeah.

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What happened?

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What did happen?

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Because they made one more TV movie after this and then it disappeared.

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I think Ferreigno PERSON got greedy.

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That's the only excuse.

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Everybody always going to blame Hulk PERSON.

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That's what always happens.

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Yeah, that's true. That's true.

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It's not always Hulk PERSON's fault, you know.

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Part of it was Bill Bixby PERSON passing away, I think.

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Yeah, that was a huge component to the, unfortunately.

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They were, as we discussed in our Death and Incredible Hulk, they were trying to make a Shee Hulk PERSON movie and they shot part of it.

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And then they shut down the production.

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He passed away and they never picked it back up.

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And then New World tried to sell a She Hulk movie with Brigitte Nielsen.

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And that never got off the ground.

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Oh, wow.

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What could have been?

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What could have been?

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So it was, it was,

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Hulk was in New World's ORG capable hands.

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And yet somehow the property died off.

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I don't know how that happened.

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Would Brigitte have just played Hulk PERSON?

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And then another lady would have played.

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I don't think they got that far,

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but they did take publicity photos of her and a She-Hulk PERSON outfit.

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Please go ahead and Google it, everyone.

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We'll wait.

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Google it now.

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We'll just pause.

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Just put the phone down and...

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What is still this time with some regular banter while you are Googling. Was Flavor Flav PERSON going to be in it?

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Oh.

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Yes.

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Please. But she dresses as She-Holks. Certainly she was going to play in it? Oh. Yes. But she's dressed as Sheeholt PERSON.

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Certainly she was going to play Sheehold PERSON.

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Or maybe she'd just like to dress up like Shee Hulk PERSON.

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Maybe. They just caught her on a good day.

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They're like, do you might have me take some pictures? What if we saw this is a movie?

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Anybody is? I think we found lightning in a bottle here. Let's just go ahead and release this.

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Joe Norski PERSON stood up and was like, I'll write a script.

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They're like, this is fantastic.

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I think he was going to direct it.

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Anyway.

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The outfit's much different from Luz that Brigitte PERSON wears.

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I will say that much.

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If that's going to entice anybody to Google it.

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It's very different.

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It's very different.

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All right, let's talk about what this movie is about.

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Mark, what is Trial the Incredible Hulk WORK_OF_ART about?

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Eggers PERSON climbing his way up the corporate ladder.

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He's the Hulk of the office.

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He drives a nice car.

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He has a dashing wardrobe.

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He thought he had everything until he met Maria PERSON.

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She's beautiful, funny, and being held hostage by Edgar PERSON's boss.

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Edgar's about to let go of his Philo PERSON lifestyle and take a chance on love. Can love endure the

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trial of a hostage situation? Find out in trial of the Incredible Hulk.

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Very good. Tom, Tommy PERSON. Excuse me. Tommy.

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Tom PERSON is fine. What do you prefer?

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Oh, you know, Thomas? It's real weird. I have like two friends that call me Tom and I'm, I roll with it. Everyone else calls me Tommy PERSON.

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So either way, it's fine. I've never called you anything other than Tommy PERSON. It's why I felt so now.

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Until I demanded it. I always am like, you call me Tommy PERSON or else.

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You're always really

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your comment phrases.

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That's it.

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I have two friends I let get away

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without bullshit and

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Barack Obama PERSON and Tommy

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Lee Jones.

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That's good.

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Frankly, it's just because

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I'm too intimidated to correct them.

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That's right. He won't stop.

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Sometimes he calls me Allen PERSON.

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Tommy Jones, you have to because that's two Tommies, and that's fucking confusing.

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So you got it.

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And I always say that's too many Tommies PRODUCT.

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Anyway, back to the movie.

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So he got, you cut you to the quick and just said, you're Tom PERSON.

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That's right.

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And you're like, damn.

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Yeah.

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Damn.

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I said, you got it, boss.

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And he said, don't ever look at me.

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And I said, okay.

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That would be the cutest movie ever.

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Too many Tommy PERSON's.

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Sorry, Tommy Lee Jones and Tommy Dectal PERSON.

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It's mostly just me crying.

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It'll be great.

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I'm sorry.

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I hate to upset you.

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Tommy PERSON, what is this movie about?

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To me, it's about two things.

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Redemption. reviving.

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Using the word reviving as a term for waking up from a medical thing and not bringing someone back from the dead.

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Okay.

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And what it's also about, following your dreams.

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Even if those dreams mean attacking an entire courtroom, choking a man out, throwing a man through a window,

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and eventually ultimately escaping from prison, your dreams will set you free.

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Literally, your dreams will set you free.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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It's very true.

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It's very true.

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Don Bluth taught us that in the Land Before Time, and Bill Bixby PERSON threw the hammer down in

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the trial of the Incredible Hulk. And I say, what a double feature. Land Before down in the trial of the Incredible Hulk

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and I say

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what a double feature

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Land before time

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trial of the Incredible Hulk

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you got yourself a Sunday

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He was like

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I just hope someone's going to get it

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dreams to set you free

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People get that this dream sequence

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is a metaphor

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I hope

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I hope people get it

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I had to explain it actually that it was a dream sequence is a metaphor. I hope. I hope people get it. I had to explain it, actually,

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that it was a dream sequence later in Erica PERSON, because she was so confused that there was no trial.

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I mean, a lot of this movie is, I will say, edited creatively. There are some jobs. Thank you.

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It's a little bit of a who's to say. I like to call that like a who's to say type movie.

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You take it one way, I take it another.

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Sure.

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Who's to say?

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Exactly.

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And the answer is always,

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Scorsese PERSON.

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Scorsese is in Mark PERSON's camp on this one.

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I have a feeling, so let's not worry about Scorsese PERSON in this episode.

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It's cinema.

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It's cinema.

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That's right.

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Erica PERSON, what is this movie about It's cinema. It's cinema. That's right. Erica.

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What is this movie about?

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This movie is about what lengths it takes for a lady to get some help from a man.

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That's very true.

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That is so true.

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Really.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Takes a lot to get a little fucking help sometimes.

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Yeah, a lot.

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A lot.

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A lot.

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And sometimes you have to just uniquely escape death in order to get it.

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A couple of times.

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A couple of times, yeah.

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For reasons that, I don't know, are loose.

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But for me, this movie was about the common man.

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Specifically, a building manager

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who just wanted to talk tinker toys

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with someone, but unfortunately,

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could find no one to have a

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conversation with me. What an incredible landlord. My God, all I thought

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was, in 1989, landlords were depicted as heroes in film now

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landlords are pretty much the villains of most people's stories and it's right this man just

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wanted a fresh coat of paint and someone to talk to that's all yeah that's it's like hey you're gonna

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stick around that's all they wanted just talk talk to me, baby, and he was like, leave me alone.

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Where was he even going that day?

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We'll get into it.

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Let's get to the letterbox synopsis.

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We're on letterbox.

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Give us a follow there.

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Tommy PERSON, are you on letterbox?

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I'm not, but that's because I'm uncultured.

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No.

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That is not where your culture is found.

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Don't worry about that

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It's just people's opinions about movies

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I love I mean I love the idea of it

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I just I'm such a bad critic

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I'm always like every movie's great in its own way

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So I feel like I would just get destroyed on letterbox

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So I'm like yeah

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No you'd be perfectly fine people love that

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Positivity reigns on the internet.

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People love that.

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Yeah, I think it's time for me to dip my toilet.

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It always wins.

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It always gets the most attention and wins out.

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You're right.

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I'm back in.

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I'm going to Letterbox tonight.

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As soon as anybody does a negative opinion on the internet, they're like, get out.

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Yeah, oh yeah.

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How dare you? Great internet lords unh the internet, they're like, get out. Yeah, oh yeah. How dare you?

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Great internet lords unhook them because they're not allowed back here.

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Guys, I don't know what this guy's problem is.

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He's a little bit of a negative nelly.

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Let's get him out of.

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You're kicked out.

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Here's this synopsis.

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On the run again, Dr. David Banner PERSON is jailed for assault after interrupting a mugging.

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That's, well, we're off.

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I mean, hold on the run. He's not on the run. He's on a walkabout. That's all he's doing.

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Yeah. Yeah. He's on the run, as he always is.

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From himself.

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But he's not jailed for, he's not jailed for herself for interrupting a mugging right

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he's no because he doesn't interrupt shit yeah he's jailed because they couldn't find the actual

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culprits so they grabbed him yeah right no and she said that he did it because the gangster guys

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were right to kill her right he didn't he wasn wasn't interrupt. There's no statute in Los Angeles,

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New York GPE, or city that

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where you interrupt a mugging

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and they're like, well off to jail with you.

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Yeah.

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Sorry.

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Okay.

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You talk about the great city of San Francisco GPE.

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It's just called city.

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It's called city, called city I'll be honest

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Like most good movies

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The city is a character in the movie

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It's definitely

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Yeah it sure is

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It really is

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Blind Attorney Matt Murdoch

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Enlist Banners Help in locating the Muggers

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Because he believes they work for his long time foe

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Fisk

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Yes

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Is this a long time foe, Fisk PERSON. Yes.

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Just Fisk PERSON. Is this a long-time foe?

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Is this really a thing?

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Yes, but it's, they don't, he sort of mentions, he mentions that he's been like

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trying to, you know, trying to, he's been trying to go after the underground since his dad

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was put away by the mob.

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Okay.

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He mentions that very briefly, very briefly.

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Right.

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But, oh.

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What did you talk about Fisk PERSON?

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Yes.

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He did say, like, at one point in time, he says to people in his office, he says, we're going to,

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we're eventually going to bring that building down brick by brick.

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Mm-hmm.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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That building's not made of bricks.

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Mm-hmm.

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Is the response from Al PERSON, the least helpful person alive.

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Well, they fill poor Al

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with like every terrible trait of anyone.

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So we just this sort of like

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multifaceted terrible person.

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Yeah, he just does everything wrong.

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He's, uh, he's Al PERSON.

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He's a perfect Al PERSON.

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He's Al PERSON.

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Uh, the head of an international crime network, Fisk PERSON.

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But David, afraid of public exposure, breaks out of jail as the Hulk PERSON.

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That's what he was afraid of.

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Yes.

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I'm nervous about people figuring this out.

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So let me turn into the Hulk and break out.

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Then nobody will know.

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Yeah.

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That'll cover up all my tracks.

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Right.

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That's easy, easy.

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Let me turn it to the Hulk PERSON in an establishment that's known to have cameras everywhere.

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Yeah.

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Tracking David down, Murdoch PERSON reveals his own secret.

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Are we still reading the letterbooks?

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We're halfway through.

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We're halfway through.

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The Stephen King wrote this letterbox in that.

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Oh, my God.

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He did it under an alias, but it was good.

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We all know it's him.

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We all know it's him.

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Kevin Sting PERSON.

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It's an anecdote.

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Murdoch reveals his own secret.

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His blindness came from a radioactive spill,

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and after developing his other senses so incredibly

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incredibly in the Incredible

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Anyway, whatever, come on guy, work harder.

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There's other adjectives. Anyway, he has become

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the amazingly, oh no, athletic

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crime fighter called Daredevil PERSON. I got

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what I asked for. Anyway,

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Fisk PERSON must now face off against

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Daredevil and the Incredible Hulk.

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Nope, he doesn't. Just Daredevil and the Incredible Hulk. Nope, he doesn't.

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Just Daredevil.

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Sorry, nope.

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Total miss on that one.

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Total whiff.

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That's somebody who did not see the movie.

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They were just like, I guess he fights them in the end?

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I guess what this movie was about.

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I'm going to write it down.

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Did anyone see this movie?

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No, no, no. Oh, well, we'll go with it. I'm going to wing it down. Did anyone see this movie? No, no, no.

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Oh, well, Theta PERSON, we'll go with it.

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I'm going to wing it.

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Do you guys mind?

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Wow.

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I mean, I think well put, not, not, I wouldn't say succinctly put, but I will say.

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Right, right.

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But I would just say putt.

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It was putt.

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But also, like, weirdly leaving out some major, I mean, like, they got right to the Hulk PERSON breaking out of jail, which was not early in the film.

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No, no.

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Yeah.

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Kind of a spoiler on that one, really.

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Yeah.

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But what they got right is that David Banner PERSON is kind of on the run, running around, finding odd jobs.

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But he's out in the world, cursed with the Hulk PERSON inside of him, as he talks about.

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And he gets a job, but also we learned that David Banner PERSON has a very punchable face.

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That's very true.

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If you spend a few days with him, you kind of just want to push him into like a murky little

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river.

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I think that that logic checks out to me so soundly.

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Like you have a hyper intellectual that's doing manual labor, like hard blue collar labor.

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You know that person's going to be insufferable correcting you, anecdotally explaining

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things that are so, like I'm shocked that more of the Incredible Hulk isn't just him getting

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beaten up by construction workers.

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Right.

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Right.

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That checks out.

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I mean, I work in a machine shop now, and I'll tell you what, if I even look at people

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the wrong way, they immediately start to go after me.

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It's a very scary environment.

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You got to really watch yourself.

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Brut, not brains.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, that's right.

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Well, I can't say that I blame them.

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He perpetually wears a shirt, a button-down shirt, tucked into jeans, no belt.

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Yeah.

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If there's ever a reason to punch someone square in the face, it's that.

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Put on a fucking belt.

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What kind of psychopath are you?

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Yeah, we are at the tail end of Miami GPE Vices reign on not only our TV screens, but our fashion senses.

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Get some help, buddy.

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Get a belt.

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Get some help, get a bell.

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Figure it out.

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But also, as I said, Banner ORG just has to move to city.

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What city?

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Let's find out.

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Where will you go? The city? Let's find out. Where will you go?

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The city?

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That's not a good place.

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People get lost in that city.

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You have to stop someplace.

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Right.

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What?

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No, that's your whole point.

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You never stop.

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He's also been like, I've got to hide myself away because I got this beast inside me.

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Well, off to a city.

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Off to city. Where I could be triggered in any moment. Let's do it. Yeah, but this city you can get

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lost in. It's like a lost city, but not like a lost city like you can't find it. It's like

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you can't find yourself. That's city for you. Because you get lost. That's city.

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City life. City represent. But just to be clear. Who's your favorite team? City. I'm. City represent.

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But who's your favorite team?

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City. I'm a city.

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Oh, yeah, me too. Me too.

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I love city.

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And when I can't root for city, I always root for state.

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I'm more of a county guy.

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I just like county.

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Oh, you would.

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You would.

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You would.

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My cousin roots for town. He's a real ass. What's the matter with that guy? Uh, yeah. Don't even get me started by

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who loves municipality. That's what he's into. Right. You should see my, I have one friend who

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went to Harvard ORG. He was for tri-state area it's insane that's too much

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dude yeah i hate it pick one pick one i hate it he's such a blow heart so just to be clear though uh the woman

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that was that had hired him the woman in that scene like i just want to make sure i understood right like

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she was down to pound right oh she was she was was in love with him. Yeah, loving him.

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Being like, I was kind of hoping you'd stick around. He's been there for maybe a few days.

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Yeah. Maybe. Maybe. He's also covered in mud and water.

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Right. Right. Everyone's got a kink. Yeah. True.

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So he is like, that's the thing about David Banner PERSON. He is at alternate times punchable or kissable.

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Like, you want to do one or the other

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because the landlord is really into him too. I mean, really. Like, I mean, you know, no short order.

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Speaking of who, of who lives, who dares to live in the city? Guess who dares to live in city?

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Daredevil PERSON dares. Because that's where his, that's where his firm is located.

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The trustee Nelson and Murdoch PERSON.

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No, wait, sorry, no.

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Murdoch and Klein PERSON.

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That name is one from the comics.

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That's right.

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Suck it, Foggy PERSON.

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You're out, bud.

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You're out, dude.

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We don't need you, buddy.

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We don't need you.

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We've got Al PERSON.

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We don't need you.

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We've got Al PERSON.

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We've got Madeline Klein PERSON,

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which is the name of the clone that Cyclops has a baby with that becomes cable for crying out loud.

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That's Madeline Pride PERSON.

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Pride PERSON, you're right.

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I'm sorry.

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Leave me alone.

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That's true.

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Oh, Tommy PERSON just punched me through the screen.

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And he pushed me into this water.

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I thought they were trying to do Marvel ORG.

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No.

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Like Marvel ORG name dropping.

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But you're right.

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No.

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They don't do a lot of that.

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In fact,

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it was just weird enough

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that they even started

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to include other characters

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in these Incredible Hulk PERSON TV movies.

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That was kind of a new,

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a bold step forward.

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A bold step that Mark PERSON appreciates.

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Krista Klein PERSON.

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Loved it.

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Loved it so much.

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I know you love it.

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When they introduced a character like Daredevil PERSON.

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They introduced Daredevil PERSON and when I say they waste no time introducing him, they

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introduce him as though we should just automatically know that he's Daredevil PERSON.

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Correct.

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There's no, and everyone just knows who he is.

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Oh, it was Daredevil PERSON.

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I'm like, oh, wait, Daredevil PERSON entered the scene?

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Okay.

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So that was the guy in All Black. Okay. I mean, it would havedevil. I'm like, oh, wait, Daredevil PERSON entered the scene? Okay. So that was

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the guy in all black. Okay. I mean, it would have been nice if you'd given me a little bit of an

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introduction that this was going to happen. Eventually, he does jump out a window or something,

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I think, in the hospital room and a guy walks out to the, I mean, they, in the subway,

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they do have Daredevil PERSON rules written on the wall. But then later they have in the hospital scene when he attacks the guys

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or trying to kill Maria PERSON.

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Then they jump up the window and the guy goes here.

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Daredevil PERSON.

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Right.

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But you don't know that.

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At least I didn't know that until he says it.

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Until he said it.

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And you're like, oh, now we got it.

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And I didn't see the subway.

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I didn't see the graffiti on the subway because I was so taken away by just how much fun this movie is.

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Just so much fun.

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They were trying to get you with all those blind gags where they were like constantly like.

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Oh, boy.

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Nice.

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So many.

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So many.

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We've come a long way with Charlie Cox's portrayal of Matt Murdoch from poor Rex Smith PERSON.

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Am I?

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Yeah.

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At least that.

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He is making no effort to pretend that he is a blind person.

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He is literally just engaging with the world, ocularly, the entire movie.

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And then every once in a while, very condescendingly raising his cane to be like,

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but I'm blind.

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You've shown none of that with your acting.

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So that's, yeah, he was like, so this guy's blind, right?

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But he can also see.

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Cool, I got it.

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I think I got a name.

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Pretty good.

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Pretty good.

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I think I got it.

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When he gingerly just walks down the staircase of his apartment and looks around the room,

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head turning side to side, then whips out the cane.

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And I was like, oh, oh, I mean, good for him.

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He's been like, I want people to believe that I can see.

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Well, the very first thing that he does is when he wakes up is that he perfectly hits the alarm.

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And then he gets up and opens up the windows like he's Ferris Bueller PERSON on a wonderful,

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beautiful, sunny school day. And just looks out at city and up the windows like he's Ferris Bueller PERSON on a, on a wonderful, beautiful, sunny school day.

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And just looks out at City GPE.

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And he's just like, ah.

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Ah, city.

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Time to go to work.

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You know?

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And then, and so you would have no idea, really, that it's Matt Murdoch PERSON unless, you know, you're me.

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And you're like, yep, he's Matt Murdoch, who works at with his partner, Krista Klein, played by Nancy Everhard, who also appears in New Worlds the Punisher, which we will also be talking about this month.

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So, she's in both.

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She is having a busy month on this podcast.

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Wow.

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It's Klein PERSON time, everybody, don't work.

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She's like, finally.

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Finally.

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I have been waiting patiently for my time.

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Here we go.

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Somebody does not peer in The Punisher is Wilson Fisk PERSON,

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aka the Kingpin PERSON, not called the Kingpin in this,

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and in the synopsis only called Fisk PERSON.

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But he does appear quarterbacking a diamond heist

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in his requisite headset and reflecting blue blockers.

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He can see so much clearer with those.

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I got to say, for a heist scene, I really enjoyed the...

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It was good.

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How technically sound he was at yeah say quarterback yeah i was

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like you know what this is really efficient he's really good at this they're showing us this guy's a pro

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i'm into it i like he's leaving he's leaving no room for error like he's right there so he's not

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leaving his guys until they get to the underground at which point his two guys are like, whoof, cool diamond heist, check out that babe.

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Let's hit on her.

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We better be as obvious as possible that we're bad guys after this massive felony we just committed.

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Right.

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Not the time to play it cool, for sure.

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By the way, playing the kingpin is John Reese Davies of, uh, Lord of the Rings, Indiana Jones PERSON fame.

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I am the monarch of the sea.

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Also, I mean, famously, um, Anaconda 4, uh, and 3 on 4 WORK_OF_ART. I mean, just, you know, you can't get enough of them in those. You know, and it seems

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like a bigger appearance than just the special appearance that he's billed for, but because he's

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in it quite a bit. I was like, oh, special appearance. Oh, I guess he's only in it a bit. But actually,

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he's in there quite often. Yeah. Good negotiations by his, uh, his agent to get right. Title card,

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I guess

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but you're right

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he's a full-fetched cast member and he can't

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there's no takey-baxies on that

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you're in this

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you're in this John

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you're in this damn movie

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but as I said

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fortunately a good criminal operation is only as good as

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its workers and the king men's man

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immediately screw this up on the subway

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they're hitting on this girl also on the subway Davidid PERSON banner who doesn't want to get involved because i mean you know

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city i didn't i didn't come to city for this no yeah this ain't the city life i wanted i and

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and by the way boy oh boy does he wait to act holy. I call the two bad guys, the two Cranston PERSON's,

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because to me they remind me of two Brian Cranston PERSON performances,

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but two very different ones.

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And I was like, these guys are total,

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one blonde guy is goofy Cranston PERSON,

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Brunette guy is dramatic Cranston PERSON.

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And they both resemble him just enough that I'm like,

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he could have Eddie Murphy PERSON this.

Speaker 62323.12s - 2324.18s

He played both guys.

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If he was doing a little better in 89, I think he was mostly commercials then. resemble him just enough that I'm like he could have Eddie Murphy PERSON this. He played both guys.

Speaker 42329.84s - 2329.9s

If he was doing a little better in 89, I think he was mostly commercials then.

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Yeah, he wasn't, yeah, yeah. He wasn't doing as well. I was trying to remember the other movie. He was like doing crew work on some movies. Oh, yeah. But I always say, inside me, there are two Cranston PERSON's, uh, and you, whichever one comes out.

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I always say that. I always say that.

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That's your,

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another one you're saying.

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Comedy tragedy masks for me.

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But they're just Cranston PERSON's.

Speaker 02352.76s - 2353.38s

They're just Cranston PERSON's face.

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Smiling or frowning.

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Smiling or frowning. But you know who's frowning?

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This poor lady because David Banner PERSON won't help her.

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Help her.

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At all.

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My God, dude.

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He won't.

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But eventually, he, the whole, he changes in the Hulk PERSON, so he has to get involved.

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But that, I don't think was, that, that makes him look like a hero, but he's not.

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No.

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Then he's caught with the police, because he's back in an alleyway, back his banner, with no shirt, but his pants are perfectly fine?

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How does that work?

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Yeah. There's not a, not a stitch was busted on that. with no shirt, but his pants are perfectly fine? How does that work?

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There's not a stitch was busted on that.

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Well, I've got to say, at this point, he's probably tried a few different pairs of pants

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and knows which manufacturers have the right elasticity

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to stay snug on him when he bulges on.

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You think like a champion?

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Definitely not an eyeside.

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I don't think Nike ORG has the integrity.

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It has to have some sort of, there has to be a little bit of stretchiness to it, you know?

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Sure.

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I feel like maybe Adidas ORG, but it's most likely a champion.

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It could be some, it could be and ones.

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Yeah.

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You got going.

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Sure.

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You know, 89.

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Big dog was pretty popular around then.

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Big dog. Right. I would popular around then. Big dog.

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Right.

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I would love it if that's what he was wearing.

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I hope that that's what he was wearing.

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So he screws up, or they screw up his guys.

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Kingpin PERSON's mad, but he has a plan.

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Mr. Fisk PERSON, did you hear?

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Edgar PERSON. I want you to bring in more hawks to keep the pigeons off the roof.

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Yes, sir.

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And have them end up.

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You know, they say he improvised the second part of that line.

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It was just supposed to be about the hogs.

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I love where his priority levels are.

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Look, number one, most important, we got to bring in more hawks.

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This is insane.

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I hate these things.

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That's how you know he's evil.

Speaker 52471.16s - 2475.08s

But also, as an aside, how about we killed that Mendez PERSON woman?

Speaker 42476.38s - 2478.84s

Just as a, why not?

Speaker 52478.92s - 2480.02s

Just to clean up.

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Tie up some loose ends.

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Because he's in jail, this, of course, leads to our trial, which is...

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Not a trial. It's a dream.

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Not a trial. Just a dream.

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Just a dream sequence where he imagines himself in trial.

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He does not wear his stretchy pants.

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He wears the classic purple pants.

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That's what he changes into, which I think is the first time that was ever done in these

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movies or TV show.

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And he gets yelled at, turns into the Hulk, chokes out the defense attorney.

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Or sorry, the prosecuting attorney.

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Kicks a security guard out a window.

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Right.

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Oh, yeah.

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I mean, he does some damage.

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And nearly kills Stan Lee PERSON.

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Good God.

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And almost kills the entire jury.

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Which Stan Lee PERSON is the jury foreman.

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You know I played a jury member in The Incredible Hulk, The Trial WORK_OF_ART.

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It was amazing.

Speaker 52533.96s - 2535.54s

One of my finest films.

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But I have a question.

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Okay.

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I'm willing to go with the fact that his eyes turn white, that he turns green, I love that.

Speaker 52547.12s - 2547.18s

I love that.

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Doubles in size.

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Tears through his shirt, tears through his shoes.

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I'm willing to, I'm willing to accept that.

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But how does it happen that he's big of you, Mark PERSON?

Speaker 42557.5s - 2558.22s

Incredible Hulk PERSON.

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He also loses his beard and gets a wig from somewhere.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, the beard migrates.

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It like goes up his face.

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Right.

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Because his head doubles in size.

Speaker 42570.46s - 2570.62s

Erica PERSON's right.

Speaker 52571.52s - 2571.74s

It's that Willie PERSON,

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remember the little Willie PERSON guy that you would move with magnets?

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Yeah.

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It's like that.

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It's that technology.

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It's all,

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he has a magnetic scalp and face.

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And much like our friend Willie PERSON,

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everything just migrates north when he's angry. I didn't expect such a well-thought response to my question.

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I didn't know I had it in me either.

Speaker 42593.48s - 2594.36s

Honestly, I'm exhausted.

Speaker 52595.84s - 2596.54s

That's it.

Speaker 42596.6s - 2601.2s

That was my Jordan Flu game moment. I'm done. Wow. Okay.

Speaker 52601.56s - 2602.94s

I no longer have an issue.

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I'm good.

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He does go back to prison. and Mark PERSON, just for the record, he is in prison, right?

Speaker 42611.66s - 2612.82s

Yeah, he's not in jail.

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He is in prison.

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Okay, I want to make sure I have it right.

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He's in the prison of city.

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City prison.

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Oh, I hate that city prison.

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Oh, I had a cousin go to city prison once.

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It was brutal.

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Oh, are you living in city? Is that the one with prison?

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I, you know, I spent some time in city.

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I think I told you I had a theater scholarship at City Arts ORG. And we did Pippen, Scotty Pippen's PERSON biography, the musical.

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I love that one.

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It's such a good show.

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Three shows then was canceled due to what could best be described as numerous death threats.

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I left city for farm.

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I went to farm.

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What's funny is that Bruce PERSON,

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I'm sorry, I always want to say Bruce PERSON.

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David Banner PERSON. As you should, because that's his name.

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Right, of course. Is that David Banner PERSON leaves farm to go to city.

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Like, just such a marvelous thing.

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I forgot one thing. Stan Lee PERSON, because he was in that jury scene, he had a bird's eye view, a guess eventually, not in the scene, but eventually of the Daredevil PERSON costume. He had this to say in this book,You wouldn't like me when I'm angry, a Hulk PERSON companion. He says this about the costume. He says, when I saw Daredevil PERSON's costume and trial of the Incredible Hulk, I noticed that they didn't have, he didn't have any eyes on his mask. I said, hey, where is his eyes?And they said, he's blind, right? And I yelled, yeah, but nobody's supposed to know he's blind.

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Not bad logic from Stan PERSON.

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I mean, not, uh, you know, waitily hears when Daredevil PERSON admits later to the henchman that he is indeed blind.

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Right.

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Also, you know, I think Stan thinking ahead to the MCU where they're like, we can't have Ironman PERSON have his mask on all the time.

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We've got to see the faces of these movie stars if we're going to pay them millions of dollars.

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So I think maybe he was worried about the precedent being set of a completely masked daredevil. He's like, we've got to at least see his eyes. So.

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Yeah.

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But funny enough for that costume, it was eventually incorporated into the comics, the black outfit.

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I thought the costume looked great, to be honest with you.

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And the first season of the Daredevil PERSON TV show, he wears the black costume. So it becomes a thing, Mark PERSON.

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There's a TV show?

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Three seasons of it, Mark PERSON.

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Oh, Jesus.

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If you don't like...

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Guys, Ben Affleck is Mark's only Daredevil PERSON, okay?

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Let's just keep it pure. All right? That's his... Wake me up inside.

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He's a huge eminiscence, go.

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That, oh, we're not talking about that, but oh, my God.

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When she's slicing through those sandbags and

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oh my god what an incredible incredible movie wish we were talking about that we're not we're talking about this um we we do get two endings for for your money

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we get one where it's a two first it's like it's like clue you get you get to

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it could you don't get a choice but you don't get a choice yeah these are your two endings you

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get them both one where daredevil gets his ass kicked and then daredevil or Bruce PERSON where David Banner PERSON says hey you got to get yourself back out there and then that's where he gets his

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butt kicked in king pin's laair. And then the second ending it's a little bit different. He breaks into Kingspin Lair again. But this time David PERSON goes with him. So

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and this time we finally

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get the final showdown. Nope, he's out

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the door. See Kingpin PERSON. He's in his car by. Car? Question mark. He's in his

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Wilson PERSON's hover raft and he did. At least Daredevil PERSON pat's the body of the hovercraft a couple of times in an effort to deter it.

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He goes, as if he's going off to sea to fight a war.

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He gives it three encouraging paths instead of like, dude, you're a superhero.

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Shaquille O'Neal PERSON Spike that thing.

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Come on.

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Give it a little guff for trying to.

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Yeah, do something.

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I mean, this is a guy that was doing triple gainers off the roof of a building. He couldn't have jumped onto that thing. Nope. Come on. No.

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He doesn't have a pocket knife or a toothpick. He can get his poop, this pop a hole in it.

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It's not all he works.

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He has that little staff that he used to

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destroy the security

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camera, which was amazing.

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That was incredible. When he pulls

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and he takes the light bulb out too,

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wow.

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What a great use of that.

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Also, what they show us

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as his vision is basically

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just early MS DOS PRODUCT computer games from like that. that's just what he sees is like how we used to move around.

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It's like the camera had a negative filter and you get to like pop in in a negative filter.

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And we're like, hey, if we get out some of that color and that negative filter and just make it outlines, perfect.

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That's Murdoch PERSON vision.

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That's Murdoch PERSON vision.

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I love it.

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Even the predator would be like, wow, that's bad.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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I loved it though.

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But yes, to think that four years later we got Jurassic Park WORK_OF_ART, you're like.

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Yeah.

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I think of that, like, that chasm of like 88 to like 93 is such an incredible, like, period in

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the way movies look and feel. I mean, even it was already starting. Like, I mean, Keaton's Batman was 89 and that movie looked pretty legit. Like, you still watch it today and be like, wow, that's a pretty impressive film. But like, man, the development in those five years where you get all the movies that came out in that time period.

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Like, even forrest Gump, all those movies, you're like, wow, holy hell, the way these movies look are so different than they were four years ago. I would venture to guess, though. Not, you're right.

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But I suspect the budget for trial of the Incredible Hall was slightly less than Jurassic Park WORK_OF_ART. Of course, of course.

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It's still a TV.

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It's actually $400 million from what I heard.

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It was a Christmas gift to Stanley PERSON's daughter.

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Look, we're going to pull out all the stops for Charles PERSON, The Incredible Hulk.

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We've got to give them everything they need.

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Bixby's up there in Canada, and he's just like, I need $200 million more dollars.

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And we're like, okay.

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We're going to lose him.

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He's going to become a Canadian NORP citizen.

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We got to keep Bixby PERSON happy.

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I can't do a Fourth of July without Bill PERSON.

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We don't have a nation without Bill Bixby PERSON.

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He's already looking at property.

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He's looking at property.

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He's house hunting.

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Yeah.

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He's house hunting and he's a homebody.

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You know once he finds a property, he's just going to dig in.

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He's never going to get the garden started.

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Please, guys.

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He'll never see him again.

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Eric PERSON.

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Wait me up inside.

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Wrong movie.

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I just got distracted by things I loved and things I don't want to do it, guys.

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No, no.

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Things I hated.

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Let's talk about the things we love and the things we hated

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about the trial of the Incredible Hulk.

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Mark PERSON, what's something you loved?

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I mean, I'm sure there's a whole laundry list,

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but just throw one thing out there.

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I loved Al PERSON.

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I loved that Al PERSON, you know, here's a guy who isn't particularly great at his job,

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but he puts in the time.

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He has missed consecutive parent-teacher conferences.

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He's missed the last three wedding anniversaries with his wife

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because he's always at the office.

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Always.

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He's got to be on ropes for Al. Like, they got to be like, you got one more. anniversaries with his wife because he's always at the office because he knows at any moment.

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He's got ropes for L. Like they got to be like, you got one more missed and then you're out.

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Right.

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But he's like, I know, I know, but I could get a call where we need to look at a map and that can

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happen at any time. And I know I know I could bring the map home. I know I could do that.

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But it's better if I leave it at the office.

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Off the wall?

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You're going to bring it home.

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I may need this city map.

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It's a map of city.

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I may need it.

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I'm going to take it home.

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I love city.

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I want to have the map.

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I hope it doesn't get all smashed up on the subway.

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On subway.

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On subway.

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On city subway. I take city bus, but they don't run this late. City bus is closed. I guess I'm sleeping in the office again.

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Yeah, I just, I love his commitment to his craft. He was. He was committed. He really was.

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And for his efforts, they wanted to fire him.

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Yeah. And by the way, the man's a war hero. And we're just taking it all for granted.

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Yeah. Thank you for your service, Al PERSON. You're the punching bag at this office. That's what I was saying. Like, he was such a convenient, just throw everything at his character.

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I'm like, he is a guy that they can't stand who's so exacting and weird and awkward but also a veteran and also works all the time and like what is this guy dying loyalty to matt murdock and yet also seemingly

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verbally appear we can get rid of him or what we may have to downsize from three to two and i hate to tell you

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it's not going to be uh chr Yeah, I think this, the only,

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well, no, he's not the only person

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of color, but there's not many. It's not a lot.

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I'll say that. It's not a ton.

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Yeah. Tommy PERSON, what is something

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you loved? Okay, something I loved

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is that this takes place in a world where a vital sign tracker can electrocute a person to death. The monitor

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that tells you whether or not a person's vital

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signs are stable or they're

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in need of help, if you throw

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a person into that tiny slender metal pole with a four by eight inch box, they will be electrocuted to their

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death. And to me,

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that's not all good 80s.

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Every 80s movie should have a person

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being electrocuted by something that wouldn't really electrocute them in real life. Right, right.

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That was so perfect. It was such a great character death for that evil nurse. It's so ridiculous.

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It takes a lot of Jews NORP to run that thing.

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It takes a lot of juice. The thing thing. It takes a lot of juice.

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The thing's got European NORP outlets. It's crazy. They have to keep changing the breakers all the time of that place.

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Guys, I'm sorry. We short it out again.

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I hate it, but we got to keep track of the heart rate.

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Those heart rate monitors, you know, they suck it all up.

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They suck up all the balance.

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All the juice in this hospital.

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It's everything you got it.

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I hate city sometimes.

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City hospital is what it is.

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City hospital.

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Erica PERSON, what is something you loved?

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I loved a lot of little things, such as the zoom in on Matt PERSON's ear to, I guess, imply that he has good hearing.

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Because he hasn't covered that yet with David PERSON.

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So they had to just zoom in, like, oh, he can hear this with his ear.

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Or when Al PERSON puts him on speakerphone, like they zoomed into the speaker of the phone to be like,

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he's conferencing this.

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You can hear.

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You don't have.

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He doesn't have to hold the

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receiver up to his ear that kind of those just little things made me laugh but i think most of all

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i just really love turk just bad guy with a heart of gold can't keep his mouth shut comes upon

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a little money he's ready to spend it on everybody in the bar just trying to buy everybody a drink

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yeah yeah poor old turk gets busted again turk was awesome money, he's ready to spend it on everybody in the bar, just trying to buy everybody a drink.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Poor old Turk PERSON gets busted again.

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Turk PERSON was awesome.

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He was.

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Oh, Turk PERSON.

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And from the comics, Turk PERSON is his usual guy. He goes to for the word on the street at the, I think it's called like the no-name bar that they usually, he goes.

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I also love that exchange, too, where the cop comes in there and like busted up and the busted up and the old guy at the bar is like, is Turk PERSON still buying drinks? And he like gives me some money and

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he's like, how about some OJ? And he gives him money and I'm like, buddy, you know he's not going to

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spend that money on OJ. He went right back to his seat of the bar. Like he's not going to like,

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well, a wise cop told me to stop drinking so heavily.

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So I decided to take his advice.

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Do you have any liquid IV and a cool glass of water?

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Time to make some changes.

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A cop said something that really changed my mind about stuff.

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You know what?

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Every once in a while, City GPE has some wisdom.

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You know, City GPE spit some wisdom.

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Sometimes City GPE does have wisdom. It's true. It's true.'s true well something i loved i love that little subplot with

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edgar wilson fisks assistant falling in love with the poor ellie mendes PERSON they had so much to do in this

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movie blend the hulk with daredevil and make it compelling for an audience to want a whole daredevil

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show and yet they gave the king king King Pins Butler PERSON a whole story.

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Yeah.

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No, it's also what I hated because I mean,

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that little subplot with Edgar, Wilson PERSON,

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Wilson Fist assistant falling in love with a poor Ellie Mendez PERSON.

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They had so much to do in this movie,

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blend the Hulk with Kingpin PERSON and make it compelling for an audience

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to want a whole Daredevil PERSON show.

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And yet they give the Kingpin's

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Butler PERSON a whole story?

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Yeah.

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Yeah, they do.

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And they allow him to wear

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his robe in front of his boss?

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Ew.

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I know.

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Put your Butler PERSON clothes back on.

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I don't want to see you in your robe.

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Yeah, he jumped right to casual time.

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Like, way too fast.

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I don't want to see behind the scenes.

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Go buttel.

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He's, Edgar PERSON is no L.

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I think we know that.

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Edgar PERSON is no L.

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Yeah.

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He's definitely no L.

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Because Al is like wearing that cardigan all night.

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All night long.

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He's never.

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Sometimes love finds you when you least expect it.

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So true.

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You know, that's true.

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That's true.

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Other things we hated, Mark PERSON, what's something you hated? There's no fucking trial in this movie. Thank you. You know, that's true. That's true. Other things we hated, Mark,

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what's something you hated?

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There's no fucking trial

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in this movie.

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Thank you.

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That's what I hated.

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Let's double down on that.

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There's no trial.

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Yep, I know.

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It should have just been

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the dream sequence of the Incredible Hulk.

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And that,

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that's what they should have named it.

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There's no trial.

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Not as catchy,

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but more accurate for sure.

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Right.

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They could have said the trial dream sequence of the Incredible Hulk.

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Yes.

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And just through that.

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Well, there's one thing about like you have a movie titled Trial of Incredible Hulk WORK_OF_ART and then it gets to it and it's just a dream sequence.

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There's no actual trial.

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It's not a trial.

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But all the press and everything you read about the movie,

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the synopsis that I was going through,

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reading all these old newspaper clippings,

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and then we heard that trailer,

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they're always like,

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he's in for the trial of his life.

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But he's not.

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Like, you're leaning so hard into the fact there's a trial. You are absolutely going to make people be like, what was the trial?

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There's no trial. I mean, like, there's no trial. You're leaning so hard into it just because you're trying to be like, daredevil trial? There's no trial. There's no trial. You're leaning so hard into it just because you're trying to be like, Daredevil PERSON's going to be in it. So check it out. But it's just like, yeah, man, that is, that's unfortunate.

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You could argue

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it's trial in the sense of trial

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and tribulations, but then you

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could name that every

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Incredible Hulk movie. Or

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really any movie. Everything could be the trial of the Raiders of the Lost Ark or the trial. They could have called

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death the Incredible Hulk the trial and the Incredible Hulk and

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the verdict is

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that you're guilty if that is by death I guess if that is with that.

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The ultimate verdict.

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The ultimate verdict.

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God's final verdict. Let's not forget. He died because he fell out of a verdict. God's final verdict. Let's not forget. He died because he fell out of a plane.

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Let's never forget.

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I can't. I'll never forget. That is,

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and the song they play as he's falling through the air.

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Oh, my gosh.

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And something ends.

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Oh, my God.

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They played Evanescence WORK_OF_ART.

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That would be.

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As Lou Prygnonos PERSON pretending to fall through it.

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I want him to hit the ground and wake up from that, too, and just be like, oh.

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Just a dream.

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With his same weird roommate in the prison cell, being like, what?

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Yeah.

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He doesn't remember when I tried to kill him, right?

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I took my glasses off, so he doesn't think it's the same guy, right?

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But sometimes I have to put him back on, especially when he breaks out of the cell as a giant monster.

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Then I need to put my glasses back on.

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What now?

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What?

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So, Tommy PERSON, what is something you hated?

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Okay, my only gripe with this perfect film is that we bring in John Reese Davies

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and he doesn't fight, and he doesn't fight either of the two heroes, he just gets away

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out of fan boat.

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What a paycheck.

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What a cash grab for John PERSON, J.R.D.

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Come on, man.

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Take one punch.

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Or at least a portly little stuntman

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have him to take a punch for you.

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Put the glasses on a little guy

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and have him get knocked out for John PERSON.

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How does he have no physical interactions in this movie?

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I know. He probably stayed in England GPE.

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Never was even in Vancouver GPE.

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Right. Right. Yeah.

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He had in a separate sound stage out in Vancouver GPE. He was at Pinewood Studios ORG.

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Just having the time of his life. Yeah. The only at Pinewood Studios ORG. He was at Pinewood Studios. Just having the time of his life. Yeah, the only people that showed up

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were those other like criminals that he gives them all the diamonds and the champagne flutes.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah. Oh, yeah, the, the cabal of nameless villains. That also was that movie screen made of styrofoam? I don't want to bring up on the gripes. Yes.

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My main.

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Yes.

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This is the absolute time to bring up your grimes.

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That's it.

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That's all I got. I wanted John PERSON to take a bunch. Of course.

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We wanted to fight with Kingpin PERSON, of course.

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Yeah.

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Which we got it in Mark's favorite Daredevil PERSON movie, Daredevil.

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Yes. He's right? Oh, boy.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Erica PERSON, what was something you hated?

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Oh, I hated the same thing as Mark PERSON.

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I hated that there was no trial.

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Yeah, no trial.

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Yeah. Now let's switch to our favorite scene.

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Mark PERSON, what was your favorite scene? My favorite scene is really the ending scene when they fly away, when Edgar and Sala PERSON fly away in the land speeder plane rocket.

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Because it's just like, yeah. first of all, it looks ridiculous.

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When it flies away, it's a small speedboat-looking contraption that I don't think could actually fly in any way possible.

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It's not aerodynamically sound.

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Did you not hear the ad earlier, Mark PERSON?

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I believe.

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I mean,

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please don't speak ill of a sponsor.

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No, it's not the time.

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First of all, it's really small when they're close to it.

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But as it flies away, the height of it is about three stories of a commercial building.

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That's like, holy shit, this thing is huge.

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As you get higher in the air,

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your mass expands, Mark PERSON.

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That's true.

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I don't think it works that way. That's just science. That's just science.

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It's just science of Marvel ORG.

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I don't, yeah, no more explanations here.

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I also really love the scene

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when they have, they have Ellie Mendez PERSON tied to a chair in the middle of a warehouse all the henchmen are waiting for Daredevil PERSON to come and I just I anytime that they set up that premise I wonder you're all standing around in a warehouse you don't know if Daredevil PERSON's going to show up in 10 minutes

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tomorrow 24 hours 48 hours from now and I just imagine they're just standing around going like, can we order pizza? Yeah, right.

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Like, would it be, could we order pizza now? I mean, he's probably not going to show up for another hour. Craig PERSON, how are your kids doing?

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Your son's still playing little eat?

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He is, yeah.

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He's pitching now.

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He's pitching now.

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Focus.

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Get down there and focus.

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This is the kingpin talking.

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You must focus down there. And they're all like, oh, geez. I mean there and focus. This is the kingpin talking. You must focus down there.

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And they're all like, oh, geez.

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I mean, it's been four hours.

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I don't know if he's coming.

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I'm not sure if he's coming.

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Can we at least play a game of Uno PRODUCT?

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Yeah. I mean, just something. I brought the cards. Also, the greatest part of that scene when he does finally come and they're fighting, and then Hulk PERSON shows up, and then she just screams, what is happening?

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Because at that point she's just like, what the fuck?

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No one's trying to save me.

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Holt PERSON is carrying daredevil out of here.

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Can someone help me please?

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And I'm still here.

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Oh, my God.

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Yes.

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And they go off and have a moment.

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She's like, I'm still tied to the chair.

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She's like, what is happening? Yeah.

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I am not only angry that I'm not saved. I'm also apparently horrible bait because this became very quickly about not me at all. Yeah. They could not care less about my outcome.

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Yeah.

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They're fine with whatever happens.

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In theory, they went there for her. Yeah.

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And they were like,

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and then she gets kidnapped again because they just care about each other.

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It's just a bromance.

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That's all this thing. It is. It is. It is. Yeah, it is. It is.

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My favorite scene is Daredevil PERSON's little origin story, and it's at the end of it, but let's play this clip.

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You're asking me who can take on the organization? All right, I'll tell you. You, Captain? Yeah, me and a few good judges and good cops and a few attorneys that can be trusted. Maybe somebody who could work alone could do some damage. Maybe somebody could get behind the lines, hit and run, keep himself a secret. Maybe some kind of a, I don't know, crazy daredevil, if you will, could hurt them. You can laugh what you want, but it'll besomebody that they can't kill off, pay off or scare off. So I trained very hard. I took myself to what I thought was my limit.

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And then I would be on. One day I introduced myself.

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And so by introducing himself, he basically flips into a parking lot where that cop in the beginning,

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who was making that whole speech, is trying to get into his car, him turns around he goes huh they lock eyes say nothing and then the cop goes nods and it's like mm-hmm this is what I was talking about say no more this is what I described at that press conference of which I've given hundreds that I specifically remember calling to action

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this man.

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Someone listened to me.

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I mean, it is like, and not only that, you got to understand, that ending comes after

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the whole part where he's training himself is a very much not Rex Smith PERSON person.

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Yes.

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Basically on the parallel bars.

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Yeah.

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Oh, yeah.

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Doing Olympic level gymnastics.

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Doing Olympic level gymnastics.

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Who's incredibly not Rex Smith PERSON.

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Like very pointedly, you don't need to be that far from the... I watch this on a fucking DVD, okay?

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And like, you're like, well, that's not the actor.

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It's not like...

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That's definitely.

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It's not in 4 PRODUCTK that I watch this, you know?

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It's like not... Well, oh, do you think everybody will figure it out that we use some stunt doubles?

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Anyway, I love a good sequence where you can obviously see the stunt doubles.

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We've had many this year already.

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But that on top of the fact that they just have this wordless, uh, yeah, we now have this thing and I'll set up a phone line and now we'll know how to communicate to with each other all the time.

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How did they communicate in that moment?

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I, anyway, I loved it.

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I loved it.

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That's, you know, an incredible scene.

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It's an incredible scene.

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Absolutely.

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They also posit it as a premise whereby that police chief has a untraceable cell phone.

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Yes.

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Right.

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Mm-hmm.

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Very common in 1989, Mark PERSON.

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The right people had access to that technology, right people.

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And they always used it for good.

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That's right.

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Only benevolent or heroic men could have that phone.

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Never would fall into the hands of evil.

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Also, Kingpin PERSON, who was, I think, somebody used to quarterback that whole heist.

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Yeah.

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Well, sure, him too.

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I'm surprised nobody said that moment where Kingpin PERSON, like, bites on the end of the antenna was their favorite.

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Oh, that was like their, oh, that was so good.

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Oh, my God, that was amazing.

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It was amazing.

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I want to give a genuine compliment to this film.

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One of my favorite moments of this movie was Matt Murdoch's PERSON reaction to finding out

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that David Nelson PERSON, knee banner,

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was the Incredible Hulk,

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and his like, I'm so sorry.

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That line read was pretty damn good

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for what the rest of the movie was.

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I was like, wow, you dug deep for that level of empathy there, buddy.

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Hidden, hidden life, alias, secret identities.

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You sold it all in one sentence, and I thought he did a great job with that.

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Yeah.

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Imagine how good Batman PERSON would have been.

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I know.

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If only.

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If only.

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I'm Batman PERSON.

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I'm Batman PERSON. I'm Batman.

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I'm Batman PERSON.

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I'm Batman PERSON.

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Or he just says it with his eyes.

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Right.

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Doesn't he just say it at all? He just looks.

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Rex, are you playing this Batman PERSON kind of blind?

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No, I would never do that.

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I would never play a superhero blind.

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This Batman PERSON is fully cited.

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However, in this scene, he doesn't use his I would never play a superhero blind. Never. This Batman PERSON is fully sighted.

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However,

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in this scene,

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he doesn't use his sense of sight.

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He uses only his four other senses.

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He chooses not to see.

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Was that his audition?

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Yeah.

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All right,

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we're going to go with Michael Keaton PERSON anyway then. He's just in a die of my audition.

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He told this story to IGN where he said, like, the person at WB ORG was like, you're the guy.

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I like to think it was like John Peters PERSON or someone else crazy coked up at that point.

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You're a Batman.

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You're going to fight a giant spider.

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Rex PERSON, let me cut your hair.

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You're Batman PERSON.

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I'm going to give you a perm.

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You're going to be Batman PERSON. Tim Burton was like. I'm going to do it. I'll give you a perm. You're going to be Batman.

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Tim Burton was like, I'm going to do Beetlejuice PERSON instead.

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Yeah, no, I'm good. All right. Let's, final questions here. Just a couple quick questions.

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Okay. All right.

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Was anybody else impressed that they stuck so well to Daredevil PERSON's story?

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If I knew Daredevil PERSON's story, I suppose I could answer that.

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But am I on trial?

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Yeah.

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This is a

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surprise. Wake up! Wake up! It's just a

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bad dream.

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Finally, this is the trial of the Incredible Hulk.

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Finally, it happens.

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Please let me wake up and let it be June.

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Please let me wake up and let it be June.

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They did a great job

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sticking to Daredevil PERSON's comic origins.

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However, I think the essence of Daredevil PERSON maybe wasn't portrayed on screen with the way

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you want or the way you think of Daredevil PERSON.

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It was a little more Adam Westy PERSON.

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It was like Adam Westy, Daredevil PERSON. Yeah.

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Maybe necessarily in the comics.

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And from my taste.

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Yeah.

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That said, other people may like it. I just, when I look at these movies and even that TV show, like having that kind of,

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this is like pre-internad, this is like they did not worry about that kind of continuity

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stuff.

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They were not concerned, you know?

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So.

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They were building a cinematic universe

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with these things. I mean, in a way,

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cinematic universes that continue

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to not take off, but essentially, yes.

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I mean, and so

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for them to even like stick to some

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of those details and actually like

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tell some of the true details

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