Hour 1 - What the Lakers can expect

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It is a Friday. We have a lot to discuss. Live in Los Angeles, it's the herd wherever you may be, and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. Jordan Shulton for Jay Mack today from Bleacher Report ORG. He is an NFL insider, and we loved having you on a couple weeks ago.You crushed it. We're having you back. This is an interesting time of the year. So draft, everybody, a lot of the stuff out there right now, Jordan PERSON, is false information. People are throwing stuff out there.You know this. I remember years ago Mel Kuiper telling me, he never got more manipulated than the last week before the draft. Everybody's sending out stuff. NBA playoffs have already sort of begun with the playing tomorrow Lakers Nuggets ORG. So you picked a good time to come back to the show.

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I'm thrilled to be back. What did Bill Belichick PERSON say? It's not until the final 12 hours that you really get the actual information that matters. That's correct. That can still mean you're getting manipulated in the final 12 hours, but that's when the best information comes out. So until then, it's lying season.

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Yeah, lying season. So LeBron, James, and the Lakers, prime time tomorrow night, start their series against Denver. So, you know, Denver's the preemptive favorite. They swept the Lakers ORG last year in the Western Conference finals. So when I suggested a week ago, you know, maybe the Lakers ORG could rest LeBron A.D. in that first game and, you know, maybe the Lakers ORG could rest LeBron A.D. in that first game and, you know, end up facing Oklahoma City, who they match up with really well and had beaten several times this year. Instead of Denver, oh, Colin PERSON, you can't duck.Yeah, you can. You can do that. There are better matchups. But it wasn't just about losing the series potentially to Denver ORG. It's about the repercussions of losing the series to Denver ORG. LeBron has options after the year, and right now he's easily the team's best playmaker, like easily.So LeBron PERSON's career has always been under a microscope. We all know that. So he gets swept by Denver ORG. And then he gets swept again by Denver ORG. And DiAngelo Russell PERSON again has a mediocre to bad series. What's the fallout for the Lakers ORG?What's the fallout for LeBron PERSON? Because Denver ORG's not going anywhere. They're still pretty young. A lot of players in their prime. And I think Yokic PERSON is actually getting more efficient. And LeBron, if they get swept or lose in five, is going to say to himself,let's see here. We don't match out. We can't beat them. They have more players in their prime. I'm getting older. What's the fallout for that?He's going to say to himself, I need a new coach. Start over again. I need new teammates outside of AD. So Oklahoma City GPE would have been different. If you beat Oklahoma City in a six-seven game series, regardless of what happens after, there would be hope, there would be optimism in a year that ends and LeBron PERSON has options.LeBron would be saying, we can live with Darvinham PERSON. I like this roster. Maybe move D-Lo. We just need tweaks. That's a different off-season than getting swept again or losing in five to Denver ORG. And now, the upside to getting whacked by the Nuggets is it may force Rob Polinkin PERSON and JeannieBuss to absolutely have to go get Trey Young for Atlanta ORG, regardless of what you have to give up. So there is a ray of sunshine if you get clobbered, and I think the Lakers match out with Denver ORG, but I don't see him closing out games in this series. But there's going to be repercussions here if you get swept again. And LeBron PERSON's got all sorts of options. And Draymond Green PERSON loves him and hangs out with him and vacations with him. And Steph Curry and Clay Thompson could certainly use another KG veteran to score 24 points.Steph needs somebody next to him that consistently can score 23 to 24. Yeah, I think that's LeBron PERSON. So it's not just facing Denver ORG and losing again. What are the repercussions of that? I think they're substantial. With the only good side being you get whacked and Trey Young is absolutely a Laker NORP next yearbecause Jeannie and Rob Polinkin know LeBron PERSON will put the heat on him. That's what he does. So as the draft, the lying season, as Jordan PERSON calls it, George Payton PERSON told the athletic, great subscription service, that the Denver Broncos ORG may move up and take a big swing. And, you know, it's interesting about the NFL ORG. It's such a situational league. So we all knew this.You know this too. Most of the time, Andrew Luck PERSON being an exception, you're about as good as where you land. Do you get the right coach, the right coordinator, the right O line? You're as good as where you land. Virtually nobody can overcome nonsense. So that's very true and we all know it.But here's something else, even if you're a great coach, you have to get a top quarterback or you get fired. Pete Carroll loses Russell Wilson PERSON in his prime. Pete Carroll before Russell Wilson and his prime, been fired three times. Andy Reid PERSON got fired. Bill Belichick went from Goat to inept. So not only do quarterbacks have to land on the right spot,coaches have to get the right quarterbacks or they get fired. So we know Sean Payton PERSON's a good coach. Think about this. Not only were the Saints 3 and 13 before he arrived there, but the New Orleans Saintshad one playoff win in 39 years before Sean Peyton PERSON. He arrived in 15 years. They won the division half the time, seven times.We know he can coach. He's probably the best play caller with Andy Reid in the sport in a decade. But when he took this Broncos ORG gig, and I remember it because he and I were talking a lot, and then all of a sudden he wouldn't return my calls, so I thought, okay, he's taking a gig. And it was Denver, and my first thought was, ooh-wee, there's a lot to unwrap with that job. It's not your GM. You got a new owner. O-line's a bit to unwrap with that job. It's not your GM.You've got a new owner. O-Lines a bit of a mess. Andy Reid-Mahombs PERSON in the division. And what do you do with that Russell Wilson PERSON deal? That's a lot, right? And we know he can coach.Seven division titles, 15 years. Saints were 3 and 13. Sean PERSON arrived. Division titles followed. They were the laughing stock of the league. Not for a year. For 39 years. They couldn't win when they had Archie Manning PERSON, who was more athletic than Peyton and Eli combined. So now it's one year later for Sean Peyton PERSON, and here's where we're at.$67 million in dead cap money, and the only way they can get a top two to three quarterback is to give up massive draft capital. That's where they're at. Oh, by the way, Justin Herbert just got Jim Harbaugh PERSON. Mahomes still has Andy Reed.This division now looks like it's as good as anything outside of the Raiders ORG. So, you know, it's funny about Sean Payton PERSON. There's no question he can coach. But think about the two best job openings. You can usually see what's a really good job opening. In the last, let's say, eight to nine years, what have been the two best job openings?Aaron Rogers in his prime, Matt LaFleur gets it. And then the Cowboys were a really good roster, and Mike McCarthy PERSON got it. Well, what did Matt LaFleur do? 13 wins, 13 wins. Well, what did Mike McCarthy PERSON do? 12 wins, 12 wins.So you can see what a great job is. That's why everybody, including Vegas, Draft Kings is saying, yeah, the Chargers over, 12 wins, 12 wins. So you can see what a great job is. That's why everybody, including Vegas, Draft Kings, is saying, yeah, the Chargers over, under is about 10 and a half. They're going to be really good and really fast. They got a left tackle. They got a quarterback.They got two edge rushers. Right? Like, you can see, they got draft picks. You can see the good jobs. This was not a good job. Now, Peyton's brilliant, and the Saints were in much worse shape than Denver. And the dead cap money for the Broncos is only for a year. And they got a few thirdround picks and a couple fives. They don't have a second round pick. They got to get another weapon. They don't have enough weapons. Raiders ORG right now have better weapons. They need more weapons. They've got to get a quarterback. My take is that Sean is going to go sort of revert back to after a difficult first year. What worked in New Orleans GPE? Well, what turned it all around was Drew Breeze?And the one quarterback in this class that feels like Drew Breeze to me is Bo Necks PERSON. A little shorter than you'd like. Not a gun, not a howitzer is an arm a lot of college starts super productive won a lot of games super dedicated and moves betterthan people think so my prediction is Denver ORG will either stay at their spot and get a bow knicks maybe a little bit of a reach maybe they move up one ortwo spots to get a J.J. McCarthy PERSON. But it does illustrate once again. It not only is about where do you land as a quarterback, but even as a top coach. If you don't solve the quarterback thing, you're done. And like, this is a good quarterback draft, and next year's not a good quarterback draft class. So Denver ORG is in a very precarioussituation with a great coach who took a difficult job and this is how hard it is. That Herbert PERSON now getting Harbaugh changes everything. That changes everything. I can argue by the end of this year we'll be saying this division, no division has two better teams at the top than the AFC West with KC and the Chargers ORG. Can't wait for, my guess is Denver ORG has a couple holes to fill. They've got to get an edge rusher.They got to get another weapon. I think they need some depth that corner and running back in safety. I don't see them moving up. And I do think Bo Nix PERSON and Michael Pennix will both be available. But you can't go too far backbecause the Raiders ORG are right behind you and they need a quarterback and they may like Bo Nix PERSON. So your gut feeling right now. Caleb 1, Jaden Daniels 2, that's what I've heard. What have you heard?

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Absolutely. But then you have Drake May, then you have J.J. McCarthy PERSON, who, depending on who you talk to, you might get an entirely different answer. McCarthy PERSON, the winning pedigree, the upside as an athlete, a former hockey player, the toughness, all he does is win. Two state titles, a national title in high school at IM ORG, a national title, third-winningest college quarterback ever. And then you have Drake May PERSON, the upside through the roof.

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Big tall moves. Yeah, you talked a couple weeks ago, Justin Herbert type of talent. Yeah. But a little bit more raw, maybe a little more green. And then Bo Nick PERSON, 63 career starts. And then Michael Pennix. At Indiana ORG, they're horrible, gets them to number seven in the country, takes Washington GPE to the national championship. Oh, he's 24 years old.Well, so is Bo Nix PERSON. Breeze was 23. Who cares? Right. Can you play?

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Those guys can all play, in my opinion. I think they're all really good. I don't know if Nix PERSON quite has the same ceiling,

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but there's a lot of really, there's a lot to be said about a high floor and a guy that can play pretty quickly. Oh yeah, Bo Nix can play first week. There's no question. Sixty-one,

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Denver ORG has potential to be a dynasty,

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Rarely is it storybook, you know. I mean, even the 96 or 98 Bulls ORG, you know, team was broken up and we won the championship in our last year, but there was a documentary about what a disaster the whole thing was.

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It's impossible for this stuff to you know to end perfectly I do think there is a lot

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of value and as I just said to Tim and you know our three guys being Warriors for life really want to see all of them you know finish their careers here

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yeah I mean that that story book but but here's the truth about it. Go look at the last five years for the Warriors ORG. You got one title, I'll get to that in a second. But three times you missed the playoffs in five years, and once you were out in the semis after the second round, right? So, and let's go to, let's deep dive the championship season.Because I would argue a lot went your way. You were a veteran team, Steph, Draymond, Clay Wiggins PERSON, the redemption tour for Wiggins with one of the best coaches ever, Steve Kerr PERSON. But in round one, you faced the nuggets. Yeah, Jamal Murray PERSON was hurt. And Michael Porter had a torn ACL. Those weren't the Nuggets ORG.No two G's with that Nuggets team. They just weren't. No Porter, no Jamal Murray PERSON. Next round, you beat Memphis. Immature Memphis. Their best player was 22-year-old Jha Morant PERSON who unraveled. The next round, you beat Dallas. That was 23-year-old Luca with no number two option, no Kyrie. Okay. And then you beat the Celtics, and it looked like the first few games in that series, Boston was better, but they were kids. Tatum was 24. So you faced young Luca PERSON, young Jor, Denver without Murray or Porter, and young Jason Tatum. These guys were just not readyfor prime time yet. Now the Celtics ORG appear to be. Denver ORG's at full strength. Forget Memphis now O'Kee PERSON sees the young better team. But I think when you really step back and look at it, five years, they've missed a playoff three times. It's hard to miss the NBA ORG playoffs. It really is.Now, the West is better than the East LOC. It's tough. The stars all align for the championship series EVENT. And that happens. It's not like they didn't earn the rest of them beating the very best teams at their best. But that was the run where they were facing kids and a Denver ORG team that fell apart physically.So four of the five seasons indicate you've got to have a reboot here. You can't be bringing the band back together. They're not ready for a world tour. They can give you one good night. They can give you one great night at the sphere in Vegas GPE. They're not a world tour anymore. They just don't have the legs. Here's Jordan PERSON with the news. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news.

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All right, Colin, let's start in the NFL ORG. Last time I was here, the Texans and Bills ORG had a blockbuster trade. Sending wide receiver, all pro, Stefan Dix, to Houston GPE. Josh Allen now loses his top target from each of the last four seasons, and yesterday he talked about the move.

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It's definitely hard to part ways with a guy that's been very instrumental in our success here of the last four years. And obviously, I wish we can keep everybody. You know, we've made a lot of changes this offseason. Lost a lot of veteran leadership. Steph PERSON being one of them. I guess that's the nature of the business.And going into year seven now, it's just kind of is what it is. You know, I don't get paid to make changes on the team. I pay to be the best quarterback that I can be and try to lead the guys on this team.

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Colin, Brandon Bean, the GM of the Bills, said we can still have success without a true number one wide receiver. Remember, Gabe Davis also gone good player.

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Yeah. So right now, really, their top targets are Dalton Kincaid PERSON, good young tight end, and

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Khalil Shakira at Boise State ORG.

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Yeah, I don't, I think a star number one receiver is a bit overrated. So I could argue that the Randy Moss Patriot ORG teams, that's the only group that didn't win titles. That's true. Right, like those were the great teams. I think sometimes when you have a star receiver, you know, you got to give star receivers attention and touches. I mean,the best receivers in the league right now, Devonte Adams PERSON, right? Now, and he's vocal. So, I don't think you have to have a number one receiver. I think what you have to have is multiple receivers who are at least in the two space, T. Higgins, Puka, Nuku, a one, but that kind of player. So I can argue, if they drafted two receivers and they both became really solid twos, you can win a Super Bowl EVENT. You can't as currently constructed get into many shootouts in the AFC.And remember, the AFC is going to be different. Aaron Rogers back. Justin Herbert, great coach different. Aaron Rogers back. Justin Herbert, great coach. Joe Burrow back. Aaron Rogers back. So last year was the year. Kansas City had no offensive firepower. Average 17 points a game in the regular season. That's all going to change. So last year was the opening. Baltimore ORG, by the way, all their young talent, all their young receivers, probably get better.So I think it's one of these things. And your receiver running back, cornerback is a position you can draft and guys can hit immediately. Either you can run around and get open or not. You know, cornerback, either you can cover a guyon the edge or you can't. So I do think what they need is available, productions available immediately in the draft at wide receiver and corner. But you got a hit on them.

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Yeah, they pick late in the first.

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I wouldn't be surprised if they moved up a little bit to get another receiver.

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I think they're going to take two receivers in this class to your point.

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But just for reference, Defon Diggs, 100 plus catches, 1,100 plus yards, 8 plus TDs in each of his four seasons. I mean, that's all pro.

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And the gap between him and Gabe Davis, substantial.

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And now he's gone.

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So you really have one number two to three receiver.

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He's basically a slot, a big slot.

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He's going to be really good. And James Cook PERSON can catch the football in the backfield, but they need more. And the whole point of saying, oh, well, Mahomes lost Tyree kill. I love Josh Allen, but Mahomes PERSON is the unicorn. He's the best maybe we've ever seen. So I'm not ready to say that's just going to happen again.Second story, NFL ORG draft. We are less than a week away. Jim Harbaugh's Chargers hold the fifth overall pick next week. They have been viewed as a strong trade-down candidate throughout the draft process. Yesterday, their new GM, Joe Ortiz PERSON, discussed the factors that would go in to such a trade.

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They have to make it attractive for us to move away from those players. You know, the whole, it's a fair trade, it's a wash. I don't think that's a trade that we're interested in. We believe we have the first pick of the draft. I know there's going to be four picks that go before us, but we believe that, you know, and if four quarterbacks go, we believe strongly that we have the first pick of the draft. I know there's going to be four picks that go before us, but we believe that, you know, and the four quarterbacks go, we believe strongly that we have the first pick of the draft. So what are teams willing to give us?Now, obviously, we know it's the fifth pick, and people are going to be trading on that, you know, scope. But, yeah, it's got to be a good value for us.

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Yeah, they have taken several calls.

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They have yet to get, I'm told, an offer.

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They have taken calls. I still think Minnesota went and got the 23rd pick in the first. So I think Minnesota giving them only moving down to 11 getting another first. They would probably demand a next year first, which again, if Minnesota ORG, which is a pretty stacked offensive roster, would give up another first. They would probably demand a next year first, which again, if Minnesota, which is a pretty stacked offensive roster, would give up another first, I think they'd be fun. Because that first pick usually is best served getting a great edge rush or a quarterback.Otherwise, you can get a lot of...

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Maybe a great lineman, great tackle. Yeah, but most positions in this league, there's a lot of

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talent. Like quarterbacks, left tackles.

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Cornstones. Yeah, those are a lot of top 12 pick. So I think Minnesota ORG's the team to look at. Joe Ortiz comes from Baltimore ORG. Their entire organization is built really on trading back in the draft, acquiringmore draft capital. They're at five now, the Chargers ORG. I wouldn't be, I'm going to throw a team out there. I wouldn't even be surprised if potentially they'd have business with the Jets, who were at 10, and I know want another wide receiverfor Aaron Rogers. Joe Douglas PERSON goes way back in Baltimore with Ortiz. So that's something to maybe watch out for. To your point, they've got to be wowed to trade back. Fifth pick is pretty

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value. Denver and the Raiders ORG may move up, but they're in the same division. So you're

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not going to give massive draft capital to a division rival.

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So it feels like Minnesota, Arizona's got two first-round picks, but they're above them in the draft, so they don't want to do that.

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So the teams that have two first-round picks, Chicago ORG doesn't need to.

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Arizona ORG doesn't need to.

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Minnesota ORG does potentially.

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So if Drake May goes third and New England takes a quarterback, then, say, I think Minnesota ORG is going to sit there and it's all situational. They're just, Minnesota's going to sit there and go, okay, it's one of these guys' fault. But if Drake May, if it goes Caleb, Jaden Daniels, Drake May, and all of a sudden Minnesota ORG's like, okay, now we're not going to mess around.

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We know that the Giants ORG can take a quarterback. We know Arizona ORG won't. We know the Chargers don't. But I think Minnesota is just going to mess around. We know that the Giants can take a quarterback. We know Arizona won't. We know the Chargers ORG don't. But I think Minnesota ORG is just going to wait. Now, if Drake May starts falling, I think Minnesota ORG just stays put, stays put, and says, we may not have to go up to five.Yeah, but someone could jump them. Potentially.

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But I think you sit and sit and wait.

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You know, maybe the Giants ORG is.

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Giants ORG are, I feel like it's receiver for them.

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I do.

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Today, I would say that would be my lean at six.

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You know?

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And finally,

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NBA ORG playoffs,

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where the Clippers and Mavs meet for the third time in five seasons. Kauai Leonard PERSON continues to deal with a knee injury and his status for game one on Sunday against Dallas ORG is questionable. Colin, the clips have won the previous two playoff series versus the Mavs ORG,but Luca Dantas PERSON and Dallas really, really hot right now.

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Well, what the Mavs ORG have done,

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they've solved, Luca has solved the Kyrie PERSON drama,

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and they're also playing real defense, which was always the huge issue. Lucas PERSON become a better defender. So I'm going to take Dallas ORG in this series, top of next hour, 32 minutes from now. I'm going to make my NBA ORG playoff picks, soup to nuts, top to bottom, basement to Pennhouse,all the way through. I feel like right now the clippers are a little lost, and the Mavericks have found everything they need. So I don't necessarily think the last two weeks of the season, you've got to be careful about NBA ORG winning streaks late. Some teams are tanking and other teams are resting their stars, their veteran stars. So when teams get really hot, like the Sixers got really hot at the end with Embed PERSON, well, who are you playing? How many are real wins? But Dallas ORG has been playing well since, you know, like January. February. So that's a whole different ball game. They've found a rhythm,and I'm going to take Dallas to win this thing in six. I got five. I wouldn't shock. By it.

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Jordan PERSON with the news.

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Well, that's the news.

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And thanks for stopping by.

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The herd lie news. You know, it's funny. People generally don't like change. They freak out. I'm old enough to remember when we change the speed limit to 55 to 65 miles an hour. Everybody freaked out in this country.Everybody's going to die. Well, car manufacturers built better cars and car deaths actually went down. We do this. Legalized pot. It's going to ruin everything. Now it made some revenue for states.We're all going to be okay. Same sex, marriage. This, that, that. We're all going to be okay. People don't like change. And to a much lesser degree,those are not analogous with sports, but to a much lesser degree, it's the same in sports. Transfer portal is going to ruin everything. NIL ORG's going to ruin everything. No, it's not.I would say the transfer portal, frankly, it's a little overrated. LSU, Colorado, and USC ORG leaned on it heavy. It didn't really work for any of them. So Dion Sanders has had 14 players and counting transfer out of Colorado in recent weeks, including a five-star corner from Florida, Cormoni-McLean PERSON. And so what I have learned over the last couple of years watching the transfer portal, 90% of the players you either lose or you get have no impact.Just like 55 to 65. There's no real impact. Just get places faster. The kids that enter the transfer portal, especially those that enter it more than once, they're not really leaders. They're not foundational pieces. They're not foundational pieces. They're guys that are unhappy somewhere or want to get happier somewhere else.And they have the right to do that. But it's almost like you can make money day trading on Wall Street, but you're better buying stocks and holding them, investing in your 401 ORGK, get rich quick schemes, day trading doesn't really work, lots of movement, it doesn't really work. It's not the volume of moves. It's making some really smart quality moves and holding in the stock market. Lincoln Riley's been at USC ORG now,what are we, two and a half, three years. They've had over 35, I don't even know how many players. It's got to be over 35 or 40 transfers in and out of the program. Minimum. Could be 50. They've had one great player, Caleb Williams, and one excellent player, Jordan Addison, of 50 moves. Guys leaving, coming, going, stand.50 moves. One superstar quarterback and a really good NFL ORG receiver. That's it. Everybody else, not a foundational piece, not a team leader, not turning losses into wins. Some of them are nice players. Half have zero impact.Ohio State ORG, I mean, this is the transfer portal. Ohio State, top three football program most of my life in America GPE. I think they're going to win the Natty this year. Lost a quarterback, a starting quarterback, because he wasn't guaranteed the starting job the next year. Had a chance, probably a favorite, to win it, but wasn't guaranteed. He went to Syracuse ORG, a basketball school.Ohio State to Syracuse ORG? Hello? Hello? Pick up the white courtesy phone. I don't get, well, hello, what's going on here? Because he wasn't guaranteed he was going to start.And I'm not blaming the kid. He wanted to start. You got to get reps to get to the NFL ORG. But Dion Sanders PERSON has a really good sales pitch. But most kids want to play semi-close to home. So if you convince a Florida kid, hey, come out to Colorado GPE.Mountains are beautiful. And all of a sudden, the, hey, come out to Colorado GPE, mountains are beautiful, and all of a sudden winter it's cold, Mrs. Mom and Dad, Miss his friends. I mean, if you were hiring somebody, ask yourself, let's say you start a small company, you start hiring people. Wouldn't you be a little suspicious? If you looked at a resume and they had five jobs in seven years, why can't they stay anywhere? I've talked to coaches about this. If a player has already transferred once, they're very, very suspicious.If he's already transferred twice, it's like, no thanks, hard pass. Coaches are like, if a kid's already transferred twice, he wants to transfer a third time, you're just inheriting a problem. You're just bringing a problem into the program.And again, I am for mobility. I am for the transfer portal. But like any change in society, 55 to 65 miles an hour, legalizing pot, everybody freaks out. And the transfer portal, you know, if you go look at who won the national title last year, it was Michigan ORG. And do you know why Michigan won the national title? Those offensive and defensive lines, those were built through high school recruiting andplaying week after week game after game, year after year together. Wasn't J.J. McCarthy PERSON. It was that O line, all NFL ORG guys, and that D line.And those were overwhelmingly built through high school recruiting and playing together for years. Here was Dion this week on the portal.

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What happens with the portal man and you guys need to know, a lot of people are fighting for backups.

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When a guy is a starter and he transfers, you got to really think about that.

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I mean, is he really dead? I don't know how many starters have really transferred around the country. I think we got some coming in from visits pretty soon, maybe even this weekend. But we can attract those type of players, but I don't but we can attract those type of players, but I don't think we're losing those type of players. And if we do, we're good.

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We're all going to be okay.

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Foundational pieces, leaders, stars,

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they mostly stay where they're at. If they have a little trouble, have to fight, climb uphill, they'll do it. That's why they're leaders. Be they have a little trouble, have to fight, climb uphill. They'll do it. That's why they're leaders.

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So NBA playoffs this weekend.

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A lot of people like the Knicks over the 76ers ORG.

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I think Philly GPE's got a really good roster. I think they have two stars, MBEed and Maxie PERSON. The Knicks have one. I also think they have length, a bench. They're playing really, really well right now. I think the Knicks ORG arereally Jalen Brunson PERSON dependent. You don't have to have great teams to have a great series. Great drama comes out of two evenly matched teams. Pacers, Bucks, I think it's going to go seven games. Nicks, Sixers ORG, I think it's going to go six to seven games. I'll take Philadelphia ORG.At the top of the hour, I'll make all my picks. I think Phoenix, Minnesota's is a fantastic series. Phoenix matches out well with the T-Wolves ORG, beat them three times this year, all double digits. So again, you don't ever have a great team to have a great series. That's some really tasty first-round matchups. And for that, Albert Brewer is joining us live. Monday morning quarterback. Okay, so the talk today, Elliot Wolf, who's sort of de facto GM now for the Patriots ORG,saying, hey, we'll do anything. I think there's two schools of thought, one of them being, just get your quarterback in-house, just get him, you don't have to play him. But there may not be another Drake May next year, and there's an argument to be made.There won't be right now. So your take, you're feeling on what New England ORG's going to going to do well there are a lot of voices in that room and i would say there's

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support for j j mccarthy there's support for drake may and i think one thing that's sort of telling is the michael pennix 30 visit they had him in a few days ago and that was a late ad initially the patrons that planned just have the three and j j j mccarthy j Jaden Daniels, and Drake May PERSON. And you might ask, what's the significance of the timing of adding Michael Pennix to the list? Well, my understanding is they did that to prepare themselves for the chance they could trade down. I don't think it's a likelihood right now, Colin PERSON, but they're trying to kind of put each potential possibility up against one another.You know, Minnesota, I think, is a team that could come up for Drake May PERSON. The Giants are a team that could come up for Drake May PERSON. So I feel like pretty good that Drake May is going to go third overall. I think the likelihood is to the Patriots, but I wouldn't rule out a team with the Vikings or Giants ORG coming up for him either.

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Okay, Sean Payton's in year two. He's got $60 million in dead cap space, and they need a quarterback. Bow, Nick's probably available at, you know, 12. You could probably move back a couple slots and probably still get him at 14, 15, maybe. A lot of people see him late for a shortly second round player. But to me, now that Herbert has Harbaugh and Mahal still has Andy Reed, you've got to get aquarterback. You've got to get a quarterback, and you've got to get a quarterback. You've got to get a quarterback and you've got to get a quarterback because you're paying those guys. If you get a quarterback and you're not paying him for four years, then you can build your roster against the Chargers and against the Chiefs ORG. So to me, what you've got to be able to do,you've got to win the roster because you're not going to find him a Holmes PERSON or Herbert probably at the 12 spot. What do you think the Broncos ORG do?

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So here's what's complicated by the Broncos position is that for the next two years, they're still going to be carrying pretty heavy cap charges for Russell Wilson PERSON. What does that mean? Well, that basically cancels out the opportunity to have the rookie contract advantage with your young quarterback. So if they draft the quarterback this year, then over the next two years, they reallywon't have the built-in advantage of having that young quarterback on the rookie contract. So do you delay it a year? That's something they've talked about. You know, I think in the end, this really comes down to how Sean Payton PERSON himself sees the prospects. You know, obviously they're going to be out of range to get Caleb Williams and Jadeden Daniels and probably Drake May PERSON too, but they've done work on the other guys.They sent a contingent. Sean Payton was part of that contingent to Ann Arbor GPE to work out J.J. McCarthy on top of that, they had Michael Penningson for a 30 visit. A lot of people in the league think that if Bo Nix is going to go in the first round, it would

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have to be to Denver ORG. I don't know if I agree with them being the only team that might be in that

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mix. I think the Rams ORG could be agree with them being the only team that might be in that mix. I think the Rams could be a sneaky team for Knicks ORG as well. But I do think it's something that they're considering and turning over rocks on it. And to some degree, we're all prisoners of our own history. And I know the experience of 2017 does stick with Sean Payton PERSON. That year he loved, love, loved, loved. And I'm sure he's told you this, Colin, Patrick Mahomes PERSON. And they were sitting there at 11, thought they were going to get him.Andy Reid winds up trading up from 27 to 10, steals him out of their laps. They wound up with Marshawn Lottimore PERSON, good player. But if Mahomes is the 11th pick to New Orleans, Sean Payton PERSON might still be there.

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So, you know, if there's a guy he loves,

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I don't think he'll be shy about being aggressive to go and get that guy.

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And they are doing the work on all the guys outside of Caleb Williams and Jaden Daniels PERSON. I think this will really ride on Sean Payton's PERSON quarterback evaluation. And I don't think they'll view it as the end of the world if there's not one that they're motivated to move up for.

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So teams like the Giants are fascinating because I think they could do seven or eight things. Minnesota ORG feels like the team that's poised to move up. Offensively, they've got their tackle, their back for a year, their quarterback, their weapons, their tight end. You know, they could use maybe another edge rusher, but you can get those. It's a good edge rusher draft. Everybody in the league could use another corner.Again, plenty of those. Is there a team to you most poised to move up? It feels like Minnesota ORG, right?

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Yeah, so four teams have investigated moving up that are in the quarterback market. I mentioned the Giants ORG. I think it would be for May if they moved up. You mentioned the Vikings ORG. The Raiders ORG have investigated it. I don't know that happens.That might be more Jaden Daniel PERSON specific. And then the Broncos ORG have kicked tires on it as well. So those would be the four teams I would look at, you know, as potential to move up for a quarterback. But they're not the only teams that have investigated moving up. There are some teams that are looking at the idea of moving up for offensive skill players. Indianapolis at 15, Jacksonville at 17,those teams could move up for receivers. Indy could move up for Brock Bowers PERSON. So I think because of the offensive talent at the top of the draft, you could see some movement with some teams going up, not just for the quarterbacks.But you ask about the quarterback specifically, I think a lot of that movement's going to ride on whether or not New England sticks at three and picks. I think the likelihood, again, is they stick at three and pick a quarterback. And if that happens, of course, the value of the fourth pick for Arizona ORG goes up. The Cardinals right now, my understanding is they're driving a pretty hard bargain for that fourth overall pick. And I think the chargers would be open to trading at six as well.So I think there's going to be a good amount of movement a week from tonight. The quarterback movement could hinge on what happens at three. And then I think later in the top 10, you could have some movement for some of the skill guys.

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By the way, why did it leak this week that Belichick's interested in the Cowboys ORG?

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Why did that suddenly?

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Was that because Belichick PERSON was getting clobbered in the documentary?

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Good reporters, man. Good reporters. Seth and Don and Jeremy PERSON did a nice job with that story, right? So I don't know that I think that's more a result of weeks of work by those guys, I would say. But it is interesting that all three of those teams are in the same division. I know Bill PERSON wants to coach.

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You do.

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So, you know, the idea of getting them out there in the 2025 market, if you're in bills, can't make sense because it can materially affect the way a season goes. I mean, look, if you have three teams in the same division, right, like not all those teams can win it. And someone's probably going to be outside of the playoffs looking in. And all three of those teams feel like they should be in the playoffs in 2024. So it puts pressure on the guys in those spots. Of course, Brian Dayball, Nick Siriani and Mike McCarthy PERSON. And at the end of the day,we talk about, you know, Belichick PERSON's market. Well, pressure inside those cities to make a move on Bill Belichick PERSON, to go get Bill Belichick, can affect the way a guy's market goes. And so, you know, certainly something I think we'll all be watching. I view it as similar to Sean Payton being unemployed, you know, a couple of years ago. You know, the year he was sitting on the sideline, we were all speculating on where he was going to go in 2022, right?I think it'll be the same sort of thing with Bill this fall where he hovers over a couple of jobs where guys are on the hot seat.

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Yeah. Good stuff, Albert PERSON Brewer, money, money quarterback. Thanks, Albert as always.

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All right, thanks, Colin PERSON. Yeah, very rarely is there a great job.

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The Chargers job with Herbert and all your draft picks, now a couple fours. That's a really high-end job. Matt LaFleur getting Aaron late in his prime. No chaos. Good draft and develop franchise, Green Bay. Very good job.Cowboys ORG job for all the dysfunction. You know, Dax PERSON capable, good old aging O-line. Dallas, Jerry PERSON's willing to spend money when he has it on the cap. So those are three really good jobs. Most jobs aren't good jobs. I mean, Washington commanders have a new owner. Your O-line's bad. You're going has it on the cap. So those are three really good jobs. Most jobs aren't good jobs. I mean, Washington GPE commanders have a new owner.Your line's bad. You're going to go with a rookie quarterback. I do think the way, though, for Denver ORG, you're not going to get a Mahomes or a Herbert PERSON where you're drafting. And there may not be one in this draft except Caleb Williams. So how do you beat those teams?You beat them with a better roster. And because Mahomes is making a ton and Justin Herbert's making a ton, there's going to be limitations on the Chargers Chiefs ORG roster. The way to win that division is you get a bow knicks or you move down and you hit in your draft picks and after this year dead cap, you start loading up, you hit on some draft picks and you start loading up in the roster because you got some space but it's not easy by the way you got sick you can't do it thisyear even when you draft the quarterback because of the russell wilson thing but when you're in a division with a josh allen or a patrick mahomes or a justin herbert you know an elite quarterback you're not going to get a better quarterback that's you're out of that okay there's only about seven guys lamar jackson joe burrow good luck cleveland good luck pittsburgh quarterback. You're not going to get a better quarterback. You're out of that. Okay, there's only about seven guys. Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, good luck Cleveland, good luck Pittsburgh ORG. But what you can do, that's why Pittsburgh went on Russell Wilson and Justin Fields PERSON. They're free. They're essentiallycheap. So Pittsburgh's like, okay, we can build a better roster than Cincinnati and Baltimore ORG. We won't be as good at quarterback, but I wouldn't be surprised if Pittsburgh ORG doesn't draft another quarterback this year. Because once you get into division and you have a Lamar Jackson or a Josh Allen or a Patrick Mahomes or a Herbert with Harbaugh, you're not going to get a better quarterback than that.There's like five, at any one time in my life, there's five to six great quarter, indisputably. Mahomes, Lamar, Josh Allen, Matt Stafford, Burrow PERSON, when he's healthy. I think Herbert PERSON with hardball, you're going to go...

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That's a six-seven guys tops. My whole life, that's what it was. That's it. You get six. And if you don't have it, the way to do it is get a B quarterback to B-plus or A-minus

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on a rookie contract and spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, spend. That's how you got Jared Gough to the Super Bowl EVENT. The minute you paid him, you had to get a different quarterback. Hour 2 is coming up. I'll make my NBA picks, Bruce Feldman PERSON, too. It's a Friday.Live in L.A. GPE, it's the herd. Hi, let's talk about pro-plan sport. Pro-planned sport is advanced nutrition made to fuel strength and stamina in active dogs like yours. So wherever your next journey together takes you, start it off right with the high performance fuel your dog needs to keep pushing you every step of the way.Pro Plan Sport. Learn more at ProPlanSport.com.

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