Hour 1 - The Knicks are tough

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It felt great about it for much of the game, and goodness gracious, can the Pacers ORG get a stop ever? I mean, this Nick PERSON's team, who, what a game.

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Yeah. So the playoffs unveil the posers and the frauds. The fakers, that's the Pacers ORG. I mean, what more could Indiana ORG have in their favor?Julius Randall, second leading score, has been out the entire playoffs. And then it's announced, Mitchell Robinson PERSON, out for the rest of the playoffs. Jalen Brunson PERSON played early, then disappeared because he was hobbled, came back in the second half. Oh, geez, not at 100%. Everything lined up for the Pacers ORG.And we know the NBA ORG officials have been doing this for the entire playoffs. They're letting players be physical. It's better basketball. And the Pacers ORG are a tempo team, a finesse team, a get-up and down the floor team, and they can't adjust on the fly. So it's like asking a finesse football team to gointo baltimore and face the ravens that's why the ravens had like six blowouts this year at home the nicks are shooting 55% from the floor in the playoffs because indiana won't put a body on them but it's more than that new york's GPE DNA they're a bunch of guys, and they're now being allowed to be even more physical. The Pacers ORG are a finesse team, and they're trying to fake it because now the league is said as a whole, we're going to let everybody play. So you notice the teams that are flourishing in the playoffs, they're the physical teams that the NBA ORG is allowing to be evenmore physical. It plays right into their style, the Celtics, the Knicks, the teams, the teams. They're the physical teams that the NBA ORG is allowing to be even more physical. It plays right into their style, the Celtics, the Knicks, the T-Wolves, OKC ORG. But Rick Carlisle, no, no, no, no, he's blaming market size.

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We deserve a fair shot, you know, and it's just, it's just not, it's just, there's not, there's not a consistent balance. Their, their physicality is rewarded and ours is penalized. Just, you know, time after time. Small market teams deserve an equal shot. They deserve, they deserve a fair shot, no matter where, no matter where they're playing.

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That sounds like a fan. Oklahoma City, flourishing, Minnesota, flourishing, Spurs Dynasty ORG, Bucks with a title, major markets like New York previous to this year for 20 years, Atlanta, D.C., Chicago, Detroit GPE, have been in the toilet forever. Both L.A. GPE teams are out. The Bay Area teams out.Give me a break. Philadelphia, big market, can't get past the second round. This is the first time New York GPE's been relevant forever. Go look at the last four minutes of the game. Go look at the rebounds. Nicks have nine.Pacers have three. So the Indiana ORG issue is that their construction is built for speed and tempo. And New York's construction before the season started was built for toughness. And even when the Knicks lose a tough guy Randall or a tough guy Mitchell Robinson and Brunson PERSON another tough guy is hobbled. Their DNA is still built for these playoffs, as is OKC and Minnesota and Boston GPE. I mean, this last night, it was served up for you.Brunson and O.G PERSON are hobbling around. Isn't about market size. You're getting bullied, especially in the fourth quarter where the Knicks have been a good clutch time team this year. But watch these fourth quarters. This is like a guy that's a finesse boxer trying to be a bully, and it's like a bully hobbled, but still allowed to be a bully. Indie's a poser. This is not what they are. The league tweaked the rules, and they can't adjust because it's not the construction of the lineup. Here's Tibbs PERSON after.

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We know we're not going to be able to shoot the ball like that every night. So when we're not, we've got to be able to win with our defense and our rebounding, our hustle, and we're shorthanded to start with him. Maybe this might be a byproduct of being short-handed all year. Like, we know that this is our way. Our way is to play really hard all the time and to play together.And if we do that, we'll have a chance.

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This series is all about fight, determination, focus, and hustle and toughness. Check, check, check, check, check, check. Nick PERSON's winning all of those. Okay, so Yokic, Nicola Yokic, won his third MVP in four years. And I don't think NBA players and former NBA players are rooting for this, Shack last night on TV. This is not who he wanted to win.You know, I love you.

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The best player in the league. I want to congratulate you. But I want you to hear from me first. I thought the SGA should have in the league. I want to congratulate you. But I want you to hear it for me first. I thought the SGA ORG should have been the MVP. That's no disrespect to you. But congratulations.Thank you, Frank PERSON. We don't judge people here, no, so that's fine. It's your opinion. I'm joking.

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Here's the thing. Yokic PERSON is the best player in the world. Not having a great series best player in the world. But aesthetically, it's not a very pretty game. And aesthetics have always mattered in the NBA ORG, starting with Dr. J. On. They can sometimes fool us, but in this sport, they matter.I mean, as a kid, you know, I grew up as a kid. Most kids are not sitting around mimicking and copying Yokic PERSON's game near the basket. They're doing that with Ant or MJ or Kobe. And that matters in the NBA ORG. So two things we know are true. Europeans NORP are taken over the league.Most don't want to be faces of the league. And Ant and Tatum, as domestic players, may be the only roadblock to that in the next decade. Ant PERSON is what a face of the league sort of plays like. Vertical, trash talk, in your face, let me guard the best guy. A lot of his points are absolutely, it's like old school NBA 80s, 90s DATE. A lot of his points are spectacular and physical and dunking on you.And that is the history of the NBA ORG. But even in the NFL ORG, aesthetics play a huge role. I'll give you an example. The entire time, Brady, was dominating the league. Death by a thousand cuts. Precision, detail.All I heard. It's Belichick PERSON. Game manager. Anybody could do this. Aaron Rogers won a single Super Bowl EVENT. Brady had a collection.But the minute Aaron Rogers, who's got more style and flash, won a single Super Bowl EVENT, you started hearing goat talk. What? We got one. The minute Mahomes PERSON won his second Super Bowl EVENT,also a player with lots of style. Goat talk. I don't know. Tom's got like seven. And it wasn't until Tom Brady PERSON. Remember this. He wins the Atlanta Super Bowl EVENT.Right? He gets the Atlanta Super Bowl EVENT. Super Bowl down there is fifth. Then he surpasses Montana. And then and only then with his fifth, we said, all right. Okay, he's the goat. Aaron Rogers got that chatter, like substantial chatter after one. Mahomes after two. So even in the NFL ORG, style matters. And I mean, Michael Vic got on the cover of Madden PRODUCT, didn't have a long history ofsustained playoff success. So Yokic PERSON doesn't have that style. Style matters. And in the NBA ORG of all the leagues, it probably matters more than any other league. And I do think current players and former players don't love Yokic. and in the NBA ORG of all the leagues, it probably matters more than any other league. And I do think current players and former players don't love Yokic PERSON,kind of taking over the league and the awards. I mean, he is the most valuable player in the league. Now, we've seen Ant PERSON explode. I think next year, Wembe PERSON will be on a very, very short list of players to do that. For a couple years, it was Janus PERSON. Now he gets banged up more often.But I think what Shaq PERSON said wasn't just numbers. It was sort of what the league is rooting for. Because if you go back and look at when this league has been its most popular and discussed, you know, it's like Michael J, Magic Bird PERSON. And as the league's gotten more international, it's not necessarily helped the domestic ratings. Now, the league's always going to make money.But I do think Yokic winning this, I mean, the M-Beed MVP last year felt like an anti-Yokic vote as much as it did a pro-Johel M-Bid WORK_OF_ART vote. I mean, M-Beed's not nearly as valuable as Yokish PERSON is a player. He doesn't have that kind of distribution talent. He's, you know, Yokic PERSON plays more often, he's more readily available, he elevates other players due to his brilliantpassing, his ability to hit three-point shots. Yokch PERSON is more valuable than M. B. Everybody knew it, and they still gave it to M. B. ORG It was a better story, and it felt more true to what NBA ORG players and former players

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want the league to be, not what the league now is, very European, and Yokic PERSON being the best player.

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J. Mack, last night is one of those, you know, they always say Stiles PERSON make fights, and I'm watching that game, and I'm thinking as Jalen Brunson leaves the floor in the first half, and I'm thinking, no Randall, no Robinson, no Brunson, OG's not 100%. And I'm like, if you can't, then the third quarter starts, and it's all Knicks ORG. And you're like, okay, you're trying to pretend you want to get physical, but it's just not Indiana ORG. It's just not who you are.It has nothing to do with markets.

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Well, there's one guy in Indiana who was physical, T.J. McConnell PERSON. And then Rick Carlisle took him off the court for the final seven minutes, and the Pacer stopped being physical with Brunson PERSON. I mean, Colin, listen, you know I love the NBA ORG. I love NFL ORG. I got to say, I was thrilled last night that the game ended early so I could get to bed at a reasonable hour.Yeah. Because these double-headers every night in the NBA ORG, they're taxing.

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NFL ORG, we talk about it. It's like Thursday night football, Sunday night football, Monday night, you get to rest the other nights of the week. Yeah.

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NBA ORG, there's doubleheaders. You're going to bed at like 10, 11 o'clock TIME every.

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I know.

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Try being out east.

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Yeah.

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Thank goodness I moved out here.

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Try being out east.

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You're now entering the No Bull Zone, sponsored by credible great rates, none of the Bull. So I do appreciate LeBron James and J.J. Reddick PERSON, responding to me, some would say lashing out, but I would just say responding, because I talked about a very, very serious issue in America GPE that I see now exploding. I do not like it at all. It is important people wearing their hat backwards. We got into this very serious topic yesterday on the show.Don't love the backward hat for JJ Reddick PERSON.

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I was going to open with that. Reddick PERSON's got an interesting look. Collared shirt, backwards hat, tatted up arms.

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I didn't hear a word LeBron PERSON said I couldn't stop staring at the hat. J.J. Reddick's got an interesting look. Collared shirt, backwards hat, tatted up arms. I didn't hear a word LeBron said. I couldn't stop staring at the hat. JJ Reddick's going for NBA ORG head coaching jobs. He looks like a guy that's going to move my couch. Didn't like it. I would tell JJ PERSON to his face. I'm like, dude, you're going to bean executive in this league. You're going to be a high level executive or coach. Bro, whatever. You guys can go ahead and push back on that stuff. I didn't like it. My opinion, my show. Our show. I can't do. I can't just I push back on that stuff i didn't like it my opinion my show our show i didn't like i can't do i can't just i don't like that look at all you are going to be anNBA ORG coach he's one of the most cerebral guys in the world talking basketball literally so layered beyond he's like a great he's christopher nolan in hollywood he is directing at a different level jj reddick is talking basketball at a different level and look at this guy i mean listen folks them all at a different level. And look at this guy. I mean, listen, folks, we can't just keep lowering our standards or pretty soon hat on backwards becomes flip-flops and board shorts to work. If I have to be the mean guy that starts the national dialogue on, I don't know, standard, so be it.We can't trust our politicians. Have you seen the three people running for president? Yikes. I won't be part of that. As America GPE's honesty broker, sometimes I talk about stuff you don't want to hear but need to hear. And I'm sad to say I'm getting a lot of pushback on this as LeBron PERSON and JJ Reddickblasted out at me. Okay, I'll take it. That's fine. Go ahead. Standards or standards? If not me, then who raises this serious issue?Somebody's got to. I've started a national dialogue. We'll go back and forth on this. God bless me and God bless America GPE. Nick Wright PERSON understood the seriousness of it.

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Even if people vehemently disagree with you on the specifics of backwards hat, forwards hat. I don't really give a shit that JJ Reddick PERSON was wearing a backwards hat at all. I would not hire JJ Reddick right now to be the head coach of Los Angeles Lakers ORG that he responded to the clip.

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Now, I do not feel that way. Steve Kerr PERSON, one of the smartest people I've ever covered, and one of the smartest people in league history, went from a very, very funny, sardonic, witty broadcaster. An hour later, he was a general manager. But JJ Reddick PERSON's got a great future.I am... To turn your life around, you have to first turn your hat around. And that's all I'm going to say about that. J. Mack PERSON with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news.This is the herd line news. I'm glad you, you push back to little, but I think you're coming around.

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I'm going to stay out of this one.

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I don't need to catch any shrapnel.

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I'm just over here.

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I'm just over here catching strays while you're blasting JJ Redick and LeBron PERSON.

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Blasting's not quite it.

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I think I'm trying to pull him to my side in America GPE.

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A little bit yesterday.

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In front of you on purpose, I think you chuckled.

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But it doesn't matter. You're going to be wearing a tank top soon, and everybody will enjoy that when the Jets win the AFC East.

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All right. Let's go to the NBA ORG. The Mavs, they dropped game one in OKC ORG. Luca and Kyrie PERSON kind of struggled, especially Luca PERSON. Game two is tonight.Yes, I'm on the Mavs ORG again.

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We will see if they're able to slow MVP runner-up SGA ORG, who got seemingly every call in the world, shot a billion free throws,

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finished with 29 points. Small market guy got the calls? What's happening?

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At home. Come on. Homer PERSON calls. Luca, six of 19, 19 points on 19 shots. He's got the bum knee. That's no lift on the three. Have you noticed when you watch OKC, they look a little like the Knicks ORG on the floor, hustling defense?

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They do. Yeah.

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They do. They play like the Knicks ORG. They're a tough team being allowed to play even tougher, a physical team being allowed to play even more physical like the Knicks ORG. And what a shock. They're both crushing it. Well, at home, that usually happens.That we didn't see Denver ORG have that urgency and that hustle, getting the offensive boards. We saw it from OKC ORG. We saw it from the Knicks ORG. I think a different Dallas comes out tonight. I will say this.You know, our great producer found this quote. An anonymous veteran assistant coach. You could almost sense a sigh of relief from Lucas PERSON' teammates when he checks out of the game. It's a sense of, hey, now we get to play. It's difficult to have rhythm if you're not touching the ball.

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Can I say? Oh, go. Come on. This has been my assertion that some stars are easier to play with than others. Jason Tatum is very easy to play with. Kobe was not always easy to play with. He needed Shaq and Gasol PERSON to take the ball away at times.If he didn't respect you, Kobe would just shoot his way out of a slump. Gasol and Shaq, he respected their games, or a Derek Fisher PERSON. Okay, so I'm not hitting it. I'll move off. LeBronzo PERSON has been willing to move off if he's cool. If his game cools down, he in his prime years would move off.Luca PERSON is not easy to play with. Brunson PERSON's become a superstar in this league, leaving him. Brunson PERSON was very good with him.

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Yeah, he was very good. He's not good anymore.

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He got to conference finals with Luca PERSON.

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But this is such non-I almost said a bad word, sorry.

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Such nonsense because, Colin, where was this when they were on a 17-2 run to end the regular season?

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When they're rolling, everything's great.

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And now they lose one game. But we have to be honest about this.

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Regular season, especially late regular season winning streaks in the NBA ORG are fraudulent.

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A third of the league is like tanking. Like they want to get better draft positions. The best teams are often load management resting their sort of semi- hobbled stars. So I've been on this for years that you've got to be very, sometimes a late season winning streak can matter. The Sun's played great late in the season. Last 10 games, they got swept. Dallas ORG played great. Look at it. The other thing what is true isplayoff basketball has always rewarded physical teams and healthy teams. You know, Janus Daym banged up, Mbid banged up, Luka PERSON banged up. It's hard enough to win these games when your centrifugal force is banged up. Now, you could say Brunson PERSON's banged up, but yet in the second half last night, he put the cape on, did it again, so the Knicks are hard to figure out. Some of it's just the East LOC isn't very good. But this is my assertion with Luca. Not all stars. It's a big difference playing with Tatum than Mello PERSON,or different perhaps playing with Brunson PERSON than with Kobe. Like not all stars are perfect and not all of them are easy to play with.

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So it sounds like you like OKC tonight, they're favored by five?

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I think OKC ORG is the better team, the deeper team, and the healthier team.

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Interesting. I'll just say, I'm just glad you're not a Luca PERSON bowl-centric kind of guy here on this show. Well, you share the ball well. I've worked with guys who don't share well. I'm sure you have as well. It's not fun, right?

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Well, it's just more fun when we can laugh together, not just, yeah. I mean, it's always more fun when more people can have fun at the party, right? 100%. Let's move on to the Nuggets ORG. Oh, boy.

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They are in deep, deep trouble.

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Deep. Down O2. Now, head to Minnesota. They get an extra day off to think about the losses. After dropping the first two games at home, your friend, Draymond Green, believes it might be too late for Denver ORG to clawback.

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We're down bad right now. No, not because they down to O to 2. In your case, but because you can tell their confidence was snatched. Their belief was snatched. There's a lot of doubt. I'm not sure when they leave Denver ORG. But whether they get on that plane to Minnesota tomorrow or the following day on Wednesday DATE, they get on that plane doubt and uncertain if they can compete with the Minnesota Timberwoods ORG.He feels like he's being

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generous, Colin PERSON. This is over. Well, I think his point, on the volume podcast, I think his point is good. It's not that they've lost. It's how they've lost. And I think Draymond PERSON's right.They look like a team that's rattled and like almost not interested in getting into this sort of street fight. Like Minnesota ORG, this is pit bull and a beach ball. Like it looked uncomfortable.Denver ORG was uncomfortable in that game. Like I think Indiana looks uncomfortable in the fourth quarter against the Knicks ORG' aggressiveness. Philadelphia ORG didn't look uncomfortable. They just didn't play well. Philadelphia ORG was willing to get into that street fight. Indiana ORG is just not built for it.I don't know if Denver's built for the relentless defense and depth and size of Minnesota ORG. And what you're seeing now in the NBA ORG, and this is why NBA ORG playoff basketball, it's the only sport that looks totally different than the regular season. I mean, if you watch a Dodger ORG game now in the postseason, you will screw around with yourpitching rotation to get the best pitchers in the playoffs. But by and large, your lineup's your lineup. It's an individual sport. Guys don't go up with days off. They want to get hits and pitchers want to get outs. In the NFL ORG and in hockey, you can't just casual at it.You've got to have your head in a swivel. You can get hurt. But in basketball, the season is so long that the regular season, there's an apathy. You experiment, your rotations, you rest guys. And when the playoffs get here, some teams just cannot flip that switch. So Denver player, Minnesota was a physical team all year. The Knicks were physical. And now the league saying, yeah, we're going to reward you, be more physical.And some of these teams like Denver ORG, it doesn't look like they want to fight. And again, it's not to knock the Denver ORG players, these teams like Denver, it doesn't look like they want the fight.

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And again, it's not to knock the Denver ORG players,

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but you're right.

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They don't look like they've got the dog in them. That's right.

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Like Jaden McDaniels, Anthony Edwards, these guys are, they're getting after. Even Walker, the kid from Virginia Tech ORG who gets in. Like, he's picking up full court, you know, slapping the floor, clapping as his, he's ready to go.I think this is going to be Denver ORG gets swept.

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And then we got a lot of questions. Like, maybe the Phoenix Suns ORG aren't that bad. They were more competitive than Denver ORG, right? Right. What does Denver ORG do?

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Can they retool?

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Yeah, no.

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I mean, it's this. I think we both said this the other day. Well, I did it because I lived with it, is that in the 70s NBA, you had a lot of really good teams that had two good years. The Sixers, the Sonics, the Blazers, the Warriors ORG, they didn't become dynasties. They were all really good teams.I could name the starters for all of them. Is this the 70s NBA ORG? Usually you have a dynasty somewhere in the decade. It's a Laker ORG dynasty. It's a Celtic NORP dynasty. It's a spur.It's back to the Lakers ORG. It's the Warriors ORG. We've had a lot of dynasties. Seltic dynasty, it's a spur, it's back to the Lakers, it's the Warriors. We've had a lot of dynasties, the Heald PERSON's kind of. This is like a non-the-last five winners. This year we may have our sixth different champ in six years. So we've had a box, a Laker ORG, a warrior, a raptor.I think we're headed to a T-Wolve, Thunder, or Celtic Championship ORG.

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So that will be the six different team in six years. The only problem with the 70s is there weren't even three point. The three point line didn't even exist. There was like 24 teams. If you look at the last like, I don't know, going back to Magic's Lakers and Jordan's Bulls ORG, like there's all been dynasties.

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That's all we've seen in the last 35 years. What I'm saying is the 70s is the only decade that I watched the NBA ORG without it. 80s, 90s, 2000, it's all been dynasties for a majority of the decade. I think we're moving back into, we don't have a dynasty. Now, I did think Denver looked a little like the Spurs ORG. They felt dynastic.But apparently they're not.

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Does Minnesota ORG? I don't think they do. And listen, I know people will say, the ratings, say this, just stop. You know, YouTube is where a lot of the kids live these days. YouTube, there's like double the followers subscribers on YouTube for the NBA to the NFL ORG. NBA ORG is a young person sport?Yes. I'm just curious how the young people are going to adjust to this because like... No, they'll be fine.

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Young people are much better at adjusting than old people.

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Old people don't adjust well. Young people adjust all the time. Smart point. Final story is Joe Burrow. Another guy you like. He's in attendance at Bengals OTAs. Back to throwing footballs. Remember he had the season ending wrist surgery in November. Here he is talking to the media about his recovery and the challenges he's faced.

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This was a difficult injury.

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It's been a tough, tough several months DATE,

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but physically it's not the worst injury that I've had.

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You know, I've been through much tougher things physically,

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and so that's been a positive. I've been able to really lift and continue my off-season program, kind of the way that it always has been.

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They need to have serious conversations about next draft, drafting quarterback, second, third round. I can't your mic.

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Watch the video. I almost saw. Is it Joe Burrow with a backwards hat, Colin PERSON? I don't know.

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It's practice, I'm not going to...

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It's a podium thing.

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Got it, just to be sure.

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Podium podcast. And I looked at podium and podcast. I looked it up, by the way. Burroughs missed 15 games in the last four years. So the Glass Joe moniker? Yeah.

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The shoe fits. Listen, Brady got upset because he still had... He had stuff in the tank, and he was right when they went and got Garoppolo PERSON. But New England ORG always drafted quarterbacks, mostly like fourth, fifth, sixth round until Garoppolo PERSON.But I do think next year, if they went and drafted a quarterback, if Joe got hurt again, even for a month, he played 14 of the 18. I think you have to, second, third round, you have to address, and Joe PERSON has to understand, we're having to play backups all the time now.We need a good backup.

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Well, the kid, was it Browning PERSON?

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I thought he was solid. Maybe you just should draft a quarterback every single year. Well, you and I have talked about that, is that it's some things, I believe, two things in football. In the next decade, people will figure it out. I think there's a science to the draft and I think there's really three positionsyou should draft high nine out of ten years. Offensive tackles, great defensive linemen and quarterbacks. I think you can get speed everywhere

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third round on. Well, edge rusher or

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defensive tackle? Because that's a big difference. Quarterback left tackle or great defensive presence up front. It could be interior, Chris Jones PERSON. That should be your first round pick and a majorityof your second round picks. I think the science is coming out more and more and more and more. ESPN ORG had a researcher this year that came out with it and acknowledged that the positions you should draft early arequarterback, tackle, guard, center, you're bigs. And as you got down to receivers and backs, you had way more misses early because you can get speed anywhere. God gives a lot of people speed. It doesn't give a lot of people size and good feet. And the second thing I think that we'll look back on in 20 years or 10 years is 60quarterbacks play every year. Why don't you carry two starters? That's why I totally defend Atlanta ORG. Atlanta is on the forefront of this trend to have two at worst. You should have a Gardner Minshu PERSON as a backup. At worst, the quarterback, you just have to have a conversation with quarterbacks. We're going to have a B plus quarterback. We're looking for an A, but we're going to have a B plus guy. Miami with Tua PERSON has to have a legit. And if the quarterback can't handle it, nobody wants to hear your pity party.You're paid $25, $35, $45 million a year. But I think you're going to look back and go, we're playing 60 quarterbacks a year. Why does everybody have like a discount backup quarterback?

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It's a real position. Yeah, like Broncos ORG fans were upset. Remember, they had Stidham, and then they got Zach Wilson PERSON, like, right before the draft, and then they draft Bo Nix in the first round.

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That's what you should have. That's the smart move.

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You should have a starter that didn't work as a franchise guy.

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Zach Wilson didn't work as a franchise guy, but a first round quarterback talent as your backup.

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That's a legitimate backup.

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Or third string. I mean, Stidham PERSON has shown well

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in very limited. But Stim PERSON's not good enough to be

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a back. You should be able to lose.

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Teddy Bridgewater PERSON, to me, is like, that was the

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classic great backup. Breeze

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goes out, he goes 5 and 0. I think he was

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a first round player. That's my point. So when you're a first round quarterback and you don't make it and like 70% don't make it,

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that's who I want as a backup. Teddy Bridgewater can go 5 and 0. Zach Wilson could go 2 and 0 in Denver with Sean Payton PERSON as a coach. And the league just does not take backup quarterback seriously at all in 65 guys play a year. Did you say the hit rate in the first round was like 50% for quarterbacks?

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Yeah.

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And so what is it like the third, fourth, fifth round? By the way, Kenny Pickett is a guy who should be a backup, but Kenny Pickett has started for a profoundly important franchise. Kenny Pickett may not want to hear that, but Kenny Pickett or a Mitch Trubisky PERSON, that's a reasonable backup. That's what I'd want in my roster.A guy who started big games, played in big TV games, was viewed as a first,

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second round level talent. How about this? Washington drafted Jaden Daniels second. They already had Marcus Marriota as their backup. Yeah. They have Jeff Driscoll PERSON, and then they grabbed my guy, Sam Hartman from Notre Dame after the draft. So it's like they've got four guys. And I think that's probably the smart strategy. Get as many as you can in there. Quarterbacks, you can flip them like a house?

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A lot of these teams see backup quarterback is a fifth round guy to hang around. I see it as Zach Wilson PERSON. Everybody should have a Zach Wilson PERSON. He's a great talent for a backup. That's what the league should be. And I think in 10, 20 years, people look back and go,why do we have all these ham and eggers, these six round guys as backups, when we knew they'd eventually play? I mean, even Big Justin Herbert got hurt. Lamar PERSON's been hurt. Burles PERSON been hurt. Stafford PERSON gets hurt.Rogers PERSON gets hurt. Mahalm PERSON's about the only guy not getting hurt. That's how I see it. And turn your hat around. J-Mack PERSON with the news. Well, that's the news.

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And thanks for stopping by.

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The Hurried News ORG. Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurried News. So this is interesting. J. Mack PERSON and I have kind of been on different sides, but I'm not sure we are. So if you were the Green Bay Packers,today you had to make a decision, or the next week, would you make Jordan PERSON love like the next highest paid player in the league? Give them an extension. Usually the next guy that gets the contract in the NFL ORG at quarterback becomes the highestpaid guy for six months or whatever. Would you do, if you had to make a decision in a week, would you do it? Or would you have pause? I'll throw something out next.

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I don't know why the media can't figure this out. It seems pretty simple. Highest paid

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quarterback in the NFL doesn't win Super Bowls. Mahomes PERSON has been the exception and he's the

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greatest quarterback in the league and some are making the argument he's the best player ever at the most important position but generally you don't want your quarterback to be the highest paid player get the bag is stupid it's not dumb for the player it's done for everybody else you don't want your teams to be inflexible you want to be able to buy other players the media people who fall for that just don't know what they're talking about you don't want your quarterback to be the highest paid.So here's a story this morning that Jordan Love of the Packers has a case to become the NFL ORG's highest paid player. Okay, so let's think about this. I like him a lot. He had a nine-game stretch. Eight of those nine games, he was elite. That's it.From November 19th to January 14th, two months, he was elite. That's it. From November 19th to January 14th, two months, he was elite. Nine games, eight times elite. Now, I'm not making a comparison here, but Tim Tebow had a six-game winning streak, and the world lost its mind. I didn't, I never bought it for a second. Blake Bortles in his second year in the NFL ORG threw for 35 touchdown passes. Second in the league. And people were fooled by it.My take is whoever quarterback's Green Bay ORG when they're young, Farr, Aaron, or Jordan PERSON is going to succeed at some level. Because Green Bay ORG, they do quarterbacks right, especially young quarterbacks. They always have good old lines, enough weapons, offensive-minded coaches, not a lot of big market pressure. Green Bay ORG does young quarterbacks better than anybody. Is Jordan Love PERSON good enough to overcome a defensive coach who's over his skis and a badold line? I don't think so. But then again, not many are. But here's the thing. You don't have to worry about that. Because Green Bay ORG is never in chaos, never has a terrible offensive line, never has a defensive coach, and it always has good enough weapons. Now I think they have excellent weapons. Do I think Jordan Love PERSON feels like highest paid quarterback in the league talent? I do not.I don't think he's as talented as Mahalms or Josh Allen or Lamar or Matt Stafford or a healthy Justin Herbert just to start or Joe Burrow PERSON when he's healthy. But I do think he's talentedbut I mean you've got to be careful on this. Blake Bortles PERSON, people bought into it. Baker Mayfield with Kevin Stefansky makes the playoffs. Everybody's all in. The next year, they're bailing on him. So there are hot streaks.Rich Gannon had a, it was a good quarterback who had an unbelievable year. Matt Ryan was a good quarterback who had an MVP year DATE. So you do have these outlier years DATE. I think Jordan Love PERSON, I think this is reasonable. The opinion I have is reasonable. I think he's the guy.I'd love to see another six stars. Can you get me to mid-October? And if I get five a six and I go, yeah, that's it, then I'm good. Right now, I'd be a little, not a lot, I'd be a little reluctant today, if given the choice, to give him that kind of money. I'm not asking much for a full season. Give me six, seven more starts. I've got like 17, 18 weeks of good, really money. I'm not asking much for a full season. Give me six, seven more starts. I've got like 17, 18 weeks DATE of good, really good, then I'm in.But you can go to Blake Bortles PERSON. I mean, you think it sounds funny. The world lost there and you know what with Tim Tebow PERSON. And it's like, are you guys watching the game? Saturday Night Live WORK_OF_ART was doing skits on it. But sports fans and executives, a lot of fear-based stuff, pressure, pandemonium.I think, I think Jay Mack PERSON and I have said, I'm higher on Jordan Love than Jay Mack is. But even I think, I wouldn't want to pay him now. You've got to give me another six, seven starts. He's had one nine game stretch. Remember, at the start of last year, one of the nicest coaches in the league, Matt LaFleur, was visibly angry and calling him out at the podium. Now, he wouldapologize two days later, but he was clearly frustrated by what he couldn't do in games up until, like, mid-October last year DATE. So he's yet to have a great season. He's had a great stretch. Would you pay him today?

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Highest paid quarterback in the year? That's a question for you. He needs to get paid. You can't say, well, let's see six or seven more starts. No, it doesn't work like that. Jordan Love PERSON earned his keep,got you within striking distance in the Super Bowl EVENT.

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I don't have to pay him today.

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By and large, you should always wait.

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Oh, yeah, that's what quarterbacks want. And then he gets a

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big knee injury. Then he didn't get his payday.

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Because you guys shafted him. Well, yeah,

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that would protect the franchise. Yeah, but what about

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me? I'm your franchise quarterback.

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What do you do without me? Stay healthy.

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Okay. What do you mean? What am I going to do without you?

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We moved off Aaron Rogers.

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It seemed to be fine.

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Okay, fine. Moved off of Jordan Love PERSON. I thought you guys had it all figured out in Green Bay ORG.

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No, but I'm saying if he, your argument is, well, what if he breaks his knee? Well, then the Green Bay Packers were right. You should always wait.

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You should mostly always wait.

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Unless you identify very early.

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That is just so disrespectful to the player. They don't own the team.

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The NFL ORG's called not for long.

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That's right.

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These guys get hurt all the time. I'm okay. In our business, it's different. I'm not going to get laryngitis tomorrow and not be able to talk, but you could have a career ending injury. You're saying it's disrespectful to the player.That is what I hear from young media all the time. You've got to take care of the player. You've got to take care of the player. You've got to take care of the team, the roster, the future, the fans. It's not just about getting guys rich. But there's none of that without the franchise quarterback. That's right. But the worst thing is paying a guy like he is, and now he can't play or he's hurt. So you want your cake and you want to eat it too? No, no, no. That's not true. Like, Mahomes got paid early because I identified him by his second ear as an all-timer.

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Well, that was different because he was in the second, you know, he's got his rookie contract, sat out one year and then was a superstar.

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That's right. So with Jordan Love, if Green Bay is a bit more reticent to go, give us another eight starts, I think that's reasonable. Okay.

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So then it'll be reasonable if Jordan Love says, well, if you need another eight starts for me, I'm eight starts, I think that's reasonable. Okay. So then it'll be reasonable if Jordan Love says, well, if you need another eight starts for me, I'm going to hold out. That's reasonable too. Could he do that? I'm not going to show for OTA. That's a very NBA ORG feel. That's not

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really what the NFL ORG does. We've seen quarterbacks do. We'll see what's going on with Tua in Miami GPE. I was talking to some people this week. We'll see, we'll see what's happening with Tua in Miami GPE. You think Tua PERSON's got a market? You think he's happy that he's not gotten paid? Again, who cares.

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He's an MVP WORK_OF_ART candidate. I don't know. I don't know why I end up defending these quarterbacks that I don't even love.

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Cousins PERSON is unhappy. Oh, sad. You made 400 million playing sad. You're coming off an Achilles.

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Tua PERSON hasn't made anywhere near that. Jordan Love PERSON hasn't sniffed that.

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Tua PERSON struggles. I mean, there's a history college and pro of him staying healthy, can't throw a deep ball, has to play in really mild weather. You're going to tell me what I have to do?

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I agree with that. But from Tua PERSON's perspective, step into Tua's shoes for a second, Colin PERSON. How would you feel?

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Well, I'm not saying you shouldn't have your feelings hurt, but you should always wait. Unless you identify a quarterback. Like, Lamar Jackson PERSON came into the league, and we all went, the hell, Herbert, literally first game against Mahomes PERSON.You're like, yeah, that works. Josh Allen, Mahomes PERSON. Yeah, those guys you identify early. Jordan Love couldn't get on the field for four years.

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That's a different, and it was bad, and was bad his first six starts. That's a whole different ballgame than Mahomes PERSON. So you said you wait. You know what happens when you snooze? You lose.

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No, you know what happens when you snooze? You wake up, rested, and healthy. I'm for snoozing all the time.

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Wake up refreshed.

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Okay.

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I think we actually agree on Jordan Love. You just decided this morning to argue with the take of poor guy who wants to get the bag. Show me the money. That's what Jordan Love PERSON's saying right now. That's what you're saying right now. I think that's what you're saying.

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I'm just looking at it from the star's perspective. Look at Trevor Lawrence PERSON, by the way. I'm just looking at what Trevor Lawrence is number one pick.

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College All-American.

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It's a different quarterback.

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