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About This Episode
118:11 minutes
published 16 days ago
English
The Flank Podcast
Explicit
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of The Flank WORK_OF_ART.
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I'm joined by the one or only, The Human Turret PERSON, the World Champion himself.
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Give it up for one of the best ARs to ever do.
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It's Sam Leroux Octane PERSON. We got some of the best analysis in the game, the World Champion himself. Give it up for one of the best A.Rs to ever do it. Sam Leroux Octane. PERSON We got some of the best analysis in the game. The World Champion, Christopher Duarte PERSON, Parasite. And we got the one and only, the multi-world champion, the multi-champion, the legend, the icon to the call to the scene. Give it up for Patrick Price PERSON. And then, of course, we got the one and only, the executive producer, the flank.Give it up for Ben J. Nassim PERSON. Gentlemen, how are we feeling three matches today, three bangers. Unfortunately for some of us, aka Sam PERSON, some heartbreakers. Sam PERSON, I'll let you kick it off. How are you doing today, Sam PERSON? How are you doing?
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I'm having a terrible day. A terrible day, bro. So no further comment at this time. We're going to go back and reevaluate and we're going to come back stronger.
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Yeah, be like that, Sam PERSON. Sometimes you just have those days.
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You know what I mean? It's all good man pat how you doing pat you're doing all right
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i'm doing great i'm doing real good um glad to see standy have had another good series so i can look at
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ben j's tweet one more time and get that dope that that that needed dope but i'm excited tom i think uh
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you know i mentioned a little bit earlier but the LeBron PERSON is about to have a legacy,
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legacy game tonight,
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and it's just going to change generations. Legacy game on the way to Cancun.
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Not any good way.
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You know, Pat PERSON, never wrongs his early, Pat.
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You're going for a four straight. They're going to break history, Pat PERSON. They're going to break history, Pat PERSON. A best of seven reverse sweep, never done before an NBA ORG playoffs.
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It's crazy that that's never been done before. I feel like that, I feel like it would be done before. But I don't know.
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Four straight is insane. I feel like it's very hard to hear.
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But like, been in history, in a history of basketball,
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it's never been done.
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That's crazy. In the NBA ORG, it's never been done.
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I mean, that's crazy. I would think it would have happened, but if it happens, Pat PERSON, shit, that would be fucking insane. That'd be nuts.
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How you doing, Duarte PERSON?
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You doing all right?
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I'm good. The curse isn't broken. The dynasty has been cemented i picked l a g to win a series
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and they won it they want it they broke the curse it was looking really scary at one point
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and then they ended up bringing it back so happy about that but yeah you know same old same i shouldn't
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have changed my pick yeah you guys actually scammed we right. You guys go, Chris PERSON. Let's go.
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Sam PERSON back my beef, so I'll take it.
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And then, of course, I got the winner-only.
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The executive producer, a flake of it up for Ben PERSON. You to see, Ben, how you doing?
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I heard you were playing PGA ORG with that nub.
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What an Able.
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Yeah, the nub thinks in 48 hours, you can meet me in PGA ORG, but I beat in my 30
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strokes yesterday.
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So I think it's out.
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How many strokes you give them?
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30.
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30.
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I might give him 30 strokes, no, did he. You're giving to enable 30 strokes. I might give 30 strokes, no ditty.
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You're giving to Nable 30 strokes.
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I hear you.
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Yeah, you got to say no ditty after that one.
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But now I'm doing good.
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Some interesting call today.
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The bets we're kind of if you today, but is what it is. And I might be playing golf at like 7 a.m. tomorrow. Nice.
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I mean, we'll see how that goes.
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Also big. Go ahead. No, go ahead. Also what? Big Tot.m. tomorrow. So, we'll see how that goes.
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Also, big, go ahead.
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No, go ahead.
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Also, what?
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Big Tottenham match tomorrow against Arsenal ORG.
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We're probably going on. And Van Gogh PERSON are ass.
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The Spurs ORG are ass.
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Every team in the Premier League ORG is ass right now, except for Ments.
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They're all joking all at the same time.
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Yeah, okay. Let's move on. We're going to obviously go over the three matches that happened today. There was a little bit of drama on a T. You want to pull it up now? You want to talk about the drama right now?
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Yeah, we can't if you want.
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Okay, well, first the drama started with Dante and O4 from the Seattle GPE search. So, Sid from New York GPE. And then, of course, 04 from Seattle GPE. Now, kind of started with this tweet from Dante PERSON. Dante PERSON came out, and he tweeted, the amount of pros using sound EQ online is actually crazy.I actually don't get it. I went on the tweet and I said, well, who is it? Who the fuck is it? Followed by Ben J. Said, as you know, pros would have rather vague tweet about issues in either A, name and shame or B, hit the GA ORG chat.Ben PERSON, you knew what you were doing with this tweet.
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I knew exactly what I was doing.
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You knew what you were doing here. I told my chat. I'm like, listen, I knew. I see the perfect lane to instigate this shit. We took the challenge. It was a great challenge.I just saying. And Dante PERSON said too many to fucking name. I'd rather say vaguely than pinpoint and be wrong. But I know for sure Seattle GPE are running it.
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And that's when 04 from Seattle GPE came in.
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He said, come on, little man.
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Don't spread this rumor.
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Little man is crazy.
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L'Man, that's.
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Dante PERSON responded.
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He said, everyone in the league says you're running it.
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Shit's already been spreaded.
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Y'all go out of your way to steer glitch and run single tap. You think you're credible? The fuck not. And in 04 PERSON responding, he said, oh, no wonder we beat you guys. We must have been doing all of this. Followed by Dante PERSON, you said, you think y'all won because y'all are actually good.Laugh my fucking ass off. You let one win from a top team get to your head. I'll sell my testes if I ever lose to y'all again. Then he responded, stop costing your team, little man. And Dante PERSON finally ended it with, or did he delete his response? I saw a response to that, but I guess he deleted it.Jesus. Yeah, they were going fucking. Damn. Something about qualifying for Jeff PERSON that, but I guess he deleted it. Jesus.
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Yeah, they were going fucking.
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Damn.
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Something about qualifying for Josh PERSON. O-4 PRODUCT the rookie. Not being a pushover. I like it.
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Yeah, O-4. You don't see that from a rookie a lot. I like that, though. That O-4 doesn't give a fuck, and he's chirping back.
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Serping back.
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And then, of course, after this drama was going down, then we got more drama coming in from Beans PERSON. And who was the other one? Who was he arguing with Beans PERSON?
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Sam PERSON, you started this, Sam. You started this. I didn't start this. Fame ORG started this. I just tweeted about something that happened in this. I did not instigate this one.This one's not on me.
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Sam said a psych control with First Blood or we're not planting in Boston GPE.
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Normal tweet. I didn't planted in Boston GPE. Normal tweet.
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I didn't instigate. Normal tweet. I mean, we did
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I do have that clip as well because
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Ma PERSON, I don't know what it was possibly. It's an egregious fucking clip.
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A greaseless clip. Fame ORG then responded
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playing for sound cues, meaning Boston
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just sound hoars. They just sound
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EQing and beans quickly responded and said, uh, we are not sound cue, uh, sound hoaring. What did he exactly say? We're not using EQ, you clown, is what he called him. He called him a clown. So a little drama.I mean, it's not too much. It's just some banter between the pros, but a little drama going into today's flake. Any thoughts on that, gentlemen, on some of the back and forth? Is Seattle GPE actually breaking GAs are people using sound EQ? Is this a serious problem right now?
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Everyone seems to think so. But, I mean, that's how everything goes, bro. People will get like one thing in their head as a pro player and everyone's running single tap and everyone's using EQ that is like sound horring you or like coming around corners quicker than they shit.Like, there's no... People could not be using it and everyone could think.
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People are also tweaking like you can't hear anything without sound EQ. You can still hear shit.
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Just crank your headphones. Yeah, people are just on the impression you can't. I'm still confused why it's allowed online, but it's not allowed on land. Like, they're using league PCs, they've got to be able to just monitor this. Like, I don't know.It's ridiculous. Yeah.
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How many years has it been?
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Everybody's PC should be monitored.
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It should be checked. I don't really know why this is a problem in a professional league. I feel like there's ways to, or there's a solution for this problem. Yeah. And maybe, I don't really know why this is a problem in a professional league. I feel like there's ways to... Or there's a solution for this problem.
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Yeah. And maybe, I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong on that, but I mean, I feel like there's a solution for everything, especially something as far as a setting, like a PC setting.
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So very weird. And if people are using like sound EQ and shit, I also think that's weird too. Like, with the pros are just like being weird as fuck and using it. On the down low, and just fucking sound-horring everything.
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It's the same thing with auto-tack and everything else that has been accused. Like, there's, there's no longer an integrity league.
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No, definitely not. And who knows, bro, there's probably, it could be some people running single-tap. It was Seattle GPE, right, that people thought we're using single-tap early on.
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Yeah.
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So, I don't know. We never really got proof. A-bozzi denied it. It was on your, it was on your stream when Scrap PERSON came on. Yeah. So, I don't know. We never really got proof. A booza denied it.
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It was on your stream when Scrap PERSON came on. Yeah,
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they denied it. The one top red
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where Aboza ORG was running top red, I remember the clip. But I'm saying, Aboza ORG denied, like, Seattle GPE search denied it. So it's like...This is a key issue. This is where the GA ORG process is ineffective at this point because, you know, to Austin PERSON's point, there's no gentlemanleft to make any more gentleman's agreements like with the Santa Cue thing it could be fairly easily addressed on the league side and they refuse to do it. The single tap thing working with the studio restrict these settings for competitive playon the sports build. This is where we're getting to a point where the pros can only do so much in their ability to self-police themselves that that layer of trust is gone now. And like the league and the publisher has to step in and clean the shit upinstead of putting their head in the fucking stand.
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I think it's Darwin-Ham's ORG fault.
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Darwin-Ham's ORG fault. I mean, Darwin-Ham ORG did be fucking up a lot of shit, but I don't know if there's one of them. Let's tick by it.
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I'm down to blame Darbin-Ham ORG.
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Yeah.
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Well, I say we move on. Let's talk about some of these series. We'll get through the clips. I got a lot of clips, so we'll try to get through them as quick as possible. But first series of the day, we got the Boston breach going up against the Los Angeles guerrillas. Boston, they remain winless in the stage three.They're 0 and 3. L.A.G, they're 2 in 3. They get the 3-2 victory here over Boston GPE. Of course, Boston GPE was able to win both hard points, but the Neslo comes in from the L-A-G ORG, and they take the S&D, the control,and the last S&D. Sam PERSON, I'll scroll down. I'll take a look at stats. What were the thoughts on this series? Jesus fucking Mottom PERSON. Snoopy PERSON saved them from a red carpet.
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Boston GPE still have no semblance of clutch factor at all. They have three series as a roster and three game five L's LAG, building some momentum with back-to-back wins here. I mean, I honestly want to defer toChris PERSON. I feel like this is like a holiday for him. I kind of want to pass the mic a little bit here.
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I just want to kind of bring up like the roster comparison because like a lot of the fans are just going to kind of bring up like the roster comparison because like as like a lot of the fans are just going to look at this and be like, yeah, 100% flames is a net positive. And it was. They obviously got two wins online. But something to look out for for this LAG ORG team that they still need to work on.And I'm sure that they're going to hammer it down in practice over the next couple or this this next week is you'll notice that regardless of them getting rid of assault who was like one of their slower players and he kind of lacked in the engagement process. This team still has issues in Hardpoint FAC with being like slow. And it's it's coming down to their SMG duo. I think Estro and Fame ORG play at very different paces and mainly fame.I think he's got to work on his pacing because I feel like LAG ORG struggle with taking space on the map and really putting pressure on like the teams that they play. And you'll notice that Boston GPE was fucking relentless in those hard points. And they ended up like cooking them in it because they're just constantly pushing up,
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finding timings while they're kind of just like overthinking the game.
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And it's leading to their decision making and hard point and these like large deficits that
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they keep having to get out of. and they obviously weren't able to hear um it's been
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panning out in search and destroy and control because you kind of have that time to kind of make those decisions but in hard point that's something that they still got to look out for i like the change obviously they're in a good spot right now they went two and oh but they still got a lot to work on so we'll see how this team progresses in the near future.
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Yeah, Ben PERSON, what did you think about the series?
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I agree with Sam. I mean, Boston GPE is the most iceless fucking team. I think we've seen in a while, and we'll get to some of these egregious mistakes that they made. As a squad, I thought the hard points that they played, though, were pretty good. They got off to a big lead and manage both of them, so you've got to respect that. But the control is at Fee ORG and the search has been an absolute disaster since it's team formed.And the problem is they're not in a position where they can toss away series like this because we talked about this on the watch party. But here are their remaining opponents for the split, Tom PERSON. Optic, LA thieves, Toronto, and Vegas GPE.
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Not good.
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Like, there's maybe one, two wins there. And they're 30 behind, 40 behind everybody else. Like, they need to figure out how to get a points advantage. They're in a position where they're going to have to make a pretty big.
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They're not going to change. Yeah, they're not going to chance.
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Yeah.
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I think, I think there's that. And then on the LIG ORG side, I want to tip LIG for, you know, kind of bound with the adversity in this one, especially after the map one loss and kind of, you know, kind of grinding out the second map. I thought Diamond Con had probably one of his best series we've seen in a while, which you got a tip. I thought Flames ORG, you know, had theopportunity here to potentially have sort of a swing the other way. He was after his debut, I thought he played particularly well. And yeah, if you're an LG offender, there's some way I hope, because a lot of teams are kind of fading and moving in a lot of different ways and maybe L.O.G.
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I thought Estreel ORG had a great series
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today. They thought he played really well.
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His map, too, was unbelievable.
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Yeah, his map was insane.
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Or his POV is actually really good to watch.
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He's got a good balance of, like, the way he flows on the map.
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And, like, when he chat, bro, you can tell this guy has gun skill
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because he's constantly just, like, either winning bailout gun fights
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or he's just, like, I don't know,
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he's hitting some ridiculous shots on his opponents a lot of time.
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What I was talking about, Estreel ORG was, like,
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what thing I really like about him, he doesn't care about dropping point eights and point nines. Like, he's hitting some ridiculous shots on his opponents a lot of time. What thing I was talking about, that's true, is like, what thing I really like about him,
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he doesn't care about dropping point-eight's and point-nines.
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Like, he is very unselfish, and he's not afraid to, like, run in there first or try and make a play.
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Like, he's got a lot of confidence.
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And I feel like when you look at his stats, you might be like, you know, his stats are, you know, they're all right. But when you watch him play, you see how impactful he is and how much he's doing on the map.
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Yeah.
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Definitely want the show some load.
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I feel like this team can improve. I feel like this team can improve. I feel like this team can improve if fame just finds his rhythm. Like he just, he's had that problem like this whole time, though. Like I think their biggest question marks, like prior to their roster change was always Flames and Adam or Assault ORG.
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So if Fame ORG can pick it up in that department, maybe, you know, pick up the pace a little bit. I think this team could get a lot better in response. Yeah, Pat PERSON, what did you think about the series? Boston, go all the way down to a last map against L.A.G ORG and L.G. Get the W here.
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They're just hard point merchants. That's really all it is. I don't know. We talked about earlier. I don't know if you had the stat. Are they undefeated in Hartpoint FAC?Because if not, I think they've only lost.
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They might have like a loss, but they're like actually really good at Hartpoint FAC.
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They win every hard point in every series. They just have zero ice, absolutely blow at S&D and are mid at control.
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Their S&D, my bad, Pat, I was going to say their S&D is one gear. I don't know if you guys agree with me, but like they just like hit out stuff together. And then once the other team catches on and adapts and makes them make these decisions,
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they're not particularly wanted. Why do they play these maps? They play Rio and Sixthar PRODUCT a lot in S&D. Like, why not just play some more fundamental maps where they can have to it?
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You think this team's going to be good in invasion? No,
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but at least you have Vod that you can like copy an page from a whole season.
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Like Rio PRODUCT,
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they just bang out everything in Six Star and Rio PRODUCT and they lose every time.
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So here's the interesting thing about their map.
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If you've noticed, they've played Karachi Search PRODUCT.
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They've played Rio and they've played Six Star PRODUCT.
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If you play the maps, you'll notice there are zero information crosses on that map.
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Every single round is essentially just a blind counter in terms of where the team can be and go because there's no initial crosses you can watch like on Invasion and High Rise WORK_OF_ART. So they turn into these B-O-4-style PRODUCT bang-out S&D maps where essentially you just go to a site and hit it out together and it's basically fucking brainless.
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Yeah, but it's not working.
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I mean, they're not closing maps out, but they're on like.
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Well, yeah, yeah.
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And they're not saying, I'm not saying they're good.
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All five maps in the 0 and 6, by the way.
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I'm not saying that they're good.
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I'm more so saying that they're competitive in search. They just can't fucking close because they just fail to adapt to the game's play style.
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They were solid on that one Karachi they play where they're at 5-1 or whatever, and then they got came back on it.
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I would just stick to Karachi GPE, bro. That's what I would do. The problem is they're coming late in the game. There are a lot of really good Karachi GPE teams, a lot of really good invasion teams. And they're trying to, you know,get ahead on like a six star or Rio PRODUCT and make that of bread and butter. But I feel like...
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That's not how you make champs. That's all they should be worried about is getting points.
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And I feel like once they're one of the teams that like once they get into a three-x situation or a two-x situation or the bomb gets down, they just don't know what kind of set up or what they want to do together, and they just kind of get clutched on. So I think they got a lot of work to do to try and salvage something this season, but they're so far behind now.Like they've got to play basically perfect cod from here on now, get a top six, maybe probably a top four as well, next to events have any semblance of hope we're qualifying for champs.
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Let's move on. Let's talk about some of the clips from the match. Let's go over towards the the clips from the match. Let's go over towards the first clip of the day. We have a P5 hard point. So the street came down here.And this is where San Ben GPE, this is where I stepped away. You guys said that somebody blacked out here. So I guess the street comes down. They see where everybody's at. They get the kill. But you can see they kind of,they don't know where the last guy is. Like you see fame. He's kind of just holding mid. But you know the last guy was in their lobby, probably pushing point here. So I think you guys are just a little confused here by L.EG ORG's play. What do you guys think about that, Sandy PERSON?You think that somebody blacked out there?
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I don't think it was necessarily like a blackout, but I think fame could have been a little bit quicker on the reaction to the streak info because he had, he knew her, I think it was number six, Prista PERSON. The streak was in the air, basically when Prista PERSON ran back towards street. So I think fame could have just been a little bit quicker there.
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It's not like something super crazy to dive into, but I think we were just like a little
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slow to react to the info there.
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Yeah, I see what you're saying. Just like maybe they didn't really utilize their information there from the street.
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Yeah, because like the streak saw him go back to the street when it landed. Yeah.
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I want to go over to the second P2 because this is where I really started to see some game-changing plays. One of them from Priesta, number six on your mini-map. Look at the play he makes here. All of his teammates die here. But P-Dog decides to hit a long row. He gets around the back, and I love how he slow plays it too. He doesn't rush it because he knows his team is out of the play. He slow plays it. He holds his position. Any kills that his team is getting. Look at where those spawns come in because p-dog ORG was blocking those back spons it flips them out it was just a perfect break from boston and i don't i think if p-dog ORG doesn't take this long route uh they probably don't block those spons there so just really good plays from p-dug ORG to utilize uh the spawn knowledge block those spons and then on top and i just be patient and wait for your teeth how many players do we see guys just hit this out and not even wait they just make a you a fucking solo play and just die. P. Dog, that doesn't happen here.He plays, takes his time.
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Back up real quick. Where does Minnesota ORG fall in the situation?
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I was going to ask, is there anything here with L.A.G. You're talking about L.A.G. You're talking about L.A.G. in Minnesota ORG.
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Yeah, back.
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Is there anything you guys think they could have done differently here to hold this hard point?
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Because they get all the kills. They get all the kills here. They get all three. They're missing one guy. Don't guys think they could have done differently here to hold this hard point? Because they get all the kills.
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They get all the kills here.
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They get all three.
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They're missing one guy.
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Don't you think they should be common?
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And maybe they were common.
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Like, I know they were looking for one.
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But then the way that they kind of played it, I mean, it was a good play from P.
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Oh, that guy sponsored.
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Well, to be fair, number one was playing for it.
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He just didn't, like, play it aggressively because he wanted to be closer to his teammates
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and, like, relations to support them if they to be closer to his teammates and, like,
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relations to support them if they got hit from the front. Wait, what's spawning you're tweaking about, Ben PERSON?
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No, I just, I just think it's funny
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because everything's hand-blocked, the guys of spawning boxes.
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You know what I'm saying?
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That's a pretty normal spawn, though.
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It's a normal spawn, but it ends up because I think that guy thought he was last off of spawn, so he's holding the pinch. But it said some guy spawns behind him, and now he's kind of stuck in limbo. These two guys are in boxes trying to hold that cross. Yeah, they just weren't.Yeah.
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That's what I'm tweaking about, just because everything's being blocked here.
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If you're flames, you know you're missing P-Dog PRODUCT.
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I wouldn't have turned. I would have kept holding this.
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Yeah, you got to commit to a side.
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You have to commit. You know you're missing one. You know, if they're counting players, how they should be counting players, which I don't know if they did in this situation, but you should always be counting players, especially in rotation. They should know that they're missing one. You know, if they're counting players, how they should be counting players, which I don't know if they did in this situation, but you should always be counting players, especially in a rotation. They should know that they're missing preista PRODUCT.
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As soon as they just want boxes, they know Preston PERSON's in the back.
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They definitely knew.
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But he gave it up.
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He gave it up and he ran forward and died, which I thought was weird.
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Well, they shot each other.
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So you'll notice number one or number six, number six shot in the back.
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So Flames ORG didn't know he was there.
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He probably just didn't think that, like, Prestston PERSON would commit because he knew he was there and it's
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like a one-d-one fight so he tried to kind of just play his timing and like ignore preston for a bit
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and then presson PERSON just got good timing yeah he tried to like kills front it really just comes
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down to just a good play to uh priest i don't think like there's necessarily anything else they
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could have done um yeah it was a great it was a great play from p dog PERSON definitely wanted to show
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that because him him it's little things like that that they were able to get a 50 60 point anything else they could have done. Yeah, it was a great play from P Dogg ORG. Definitely wanted to show that play.
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Because him, it's little things like that that they were able to get a 50, 60 point lead after a play like that.
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So just big plays there.
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And then we hop into the second P4. This is honestly just a very, very big hold from Boston GPE. But I love the way that they transitioned from P3 to P4 here. I'll even rewind it back a little bit just so you can kind of see how this unfold. So remember yesterday, Flames ORG and him didn't rotate. Look at today. They rotated today.The same situation happened.
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The same situation.
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And Flames ORG ended up rotating here.
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Unfortunately, though, he ends up getting taken down.
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It's really good tag usage from Pettagram to kind of clear out fame. He wasn't able to slow down their play. If fame gets that kill there, it would have slowed down Boston GPE a little bit. But instead he loses the fight.Boston GPE, they flood through boxes. And P-Dog PRODUCT. This is when P-Dodg goes on like a, what did he go on, a nine spree?
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Nine. Nine. Yeah.
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Priesta, again, just making plays for Boston GPE. Goes on like a nine spree here. He was able to get the streak. And then, of course, they were able to use that streak going into the next rotation. I really like the transition there from Boston GPE. They were able to change some hills here. And they were able to build their lead even more.If you're L-A-G, do you think Flames should cut, maybe play hill boxes here on Roto FAC, or do you like him kind of pushing through there and trying to make a play?
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He could have played it more patient, maybe got on top of the white car and just, like, held the cross and waited for his teammates. But that's the problem with this hill. This P-3 to P-4 rotation is just so strong for the team holding P3 because it's such a quick,
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it's such a quick rotation that like if you're LAG, like you got to rotate way earlier and just chalk up P3 or you just got to commit to hitting that scrap time. Like rotating to it like this staggered and this late is kind of pointless. Like you're just going to get beat. You're going to get overwhelmed. You're not going to really accomplish anything unless your entire team is there.So I think they just made a bad play in terms of like how they split their break here and their
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rotation instead of like committing to one thing together.
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Yep. I agree with that as well. Sometimes like you might be too late for it and you need to kind of just reset and think about doing something else. Yeah. But let's move on.
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Then we go to the end.
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This might be a little bit of an epic. I mean, Sam PERSON, this is what we were talking about the rotation. I mean, watching it back, Sam, they were you talking more about number two?
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Like, who are you talking about in this situation? Because they, so back it up before this, when they got all the kills, they got like a three or four dead.
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Yeah, yeah. It's right before the, yeah. So that Boston pushes, Diamond Conn gets one, Flames gets one, turn the corner. They're all fucking Khan gets one flames gets one turn the corner
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they're all fucking dead and flames get streak here everyone's dead four dead everybody everybody dead yeah everybody's dead I don't like I don't like this either there's no reason for this
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yeah like seven gets a fucking insane spawn I don't know how seven spawn there but I think like fame over
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committing to hold this pinch just leaves Estreel ORG out to dry on the hill. Like, they just run up mid and kill Estreel for free.
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Granted again, seven gets a fucking insane spawn to get his trade.
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That was a weird spawn.
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I don't even know.
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Shouldn't the guy top, shouldn't the guy top bridge go to, like, side stairs and watch that, like, watch the window across?
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Like, like, him being up here.
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He was getting kind of tagged here. Look at all the people here. He was getting tag-nated.
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I know, but he should slide to the right and watch this this cross here because the guy in well i mean what do you guys
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think now flames PERSON he's getting right ever flames is yeah i i just think i i'm gonna
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rotate there when i'm talking about i'm saying he's talking about initially the guy in hill
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should be juggling his like front cross towards that armored car and then the guy should be playing
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the right steps looking at the window because if he's looking at that window not only can he pick players that are running across
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and challenging him but he can also spot the cross the top mid from that zig stairs the further
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help the guy middle like with information so yeah playing up here he's talking about like right he's talking about like right here like flame should immediately gone to the far right stairs and
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like stared at the left side of this hill like just so that he can like technically help number three with the cross, but also just hold his push rather than jiggling up there. That's all he's saying. I mean, in practice, that play is good, but in that situation, it could have gone either way.
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Like, it wouldn't have mattered much. Yeah, three people running out. He's fucked. Then I think Flames ORG, the street comes down. Flames ORG does get a couple kills with this one. But Boston GPE, they have so too big of a lead.They were able to close this one. Now, any final thoughts on the map one, gentlemen?
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No, I just didn't start.
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I just had a rough start.
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Boston GPE are a good hard point team, dude.
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They just can't put it together in S&D at all.
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Hold on.
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On.
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They're slow the roll a bit.
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They're four and two, and they played Miami, Minnesota ORG, and L.A.G.
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Let's see them.
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The next couple of games, they play better teams.
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They play decent hard point, man.
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Against teams that are in the bottom eight. That's the only metric we're going on,G. Let's see them. The next couple of games, they play better teams. They play decent hardpoint, man. Against teams that are in the bottom eight and on.
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So that's the only metric we're going on because I don't give the fuck how they're good against
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a phase out to New York or Toronto GPE.
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The thing is, though, the thing is.
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I'm comparing bottom eight to bottom eight.
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I don't care about top.
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But also the thing is they're blowing them out.
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It's not like they're close wins.
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They're still winning by 100 plus in these hard points, which is the exact same score differential that the top four are doing to the bottom eight.
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So, I mean, they're clearly a good hard point team, but they're blowing them out by a hundred.
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I mean, all I'm saying is Minnesota before today, I want to want to respond and don't get me started on Miami GPE.
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They played great against LIG to your point in the hard point today.
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I agree.
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I want to see what they do against Optic and thieves.
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There should be unpaid much better hard point teams and toronto as well
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what you say sam you said how they do against how they're comparing any bottom of eight team to a top
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four team and any metric is completely just a waste i hear i hear what you're saying about if you
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think their hard point is good i want to say they stack up against i think i mean it's just not
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even relevant bro like these guys are struggling to make champs they're in that position where like
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how they do against those teams are relevant like if champs. They're in that position where, like,
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how they do against those teams are relevant.
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Like, if they manage to squeak out a win for points, like great,
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but like in the grand scheme of things,
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who gives a fuck?
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Like, this team needs to just beat the lower tier teams and they're not managing to do that.
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They can go out there and beat fucking optic for all I care whenever they play them or
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Toronto GPE, whoever they hold their next schedule is.
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And that shit's not even going to matter, bro.
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They got to get wins on the board.
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They got to start streaking because this is like, it's dangerous zone at this point i i would say if they don't come out to the next event and the one after and place in the top six at both they're not at champs period they're at the place better than top i need all mine wins too well i mean wins and it's top four probably to be i don't think they're going to top four but i'm saying like if they can at least like use the events to lower the gap between the teams that they're competing against for 8-9,
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like that's the only chance they have.
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Like if Lergy and Carolina don't get those like top sixes again and it's like Boston sneaks one out and like they get a couple on wine wins,
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like it makes it at least interesting for the last major.
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But as it right now, but the last place is at the events.
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If Boston GPE doesn't get my bad, my bad question. I was going to say if Boston doesn't get top eight, top six this event. If Boston doesn't get, my bad, my bad question.
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I was going to say, if Boston doesn't get top eight, top six this event and doesn't get at least like one online win the stage,
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like I'm honestly at the point where we just skip the series.
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They're not making champs and their matches are going to be completely irrelevant if they don't actually pull something out of their ass.
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Yeah, they're just going to play spoiler and that's the one thing we'll ever talk about.
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Like, because are we talked about this before?
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Like, when the teams, if the team doesn't make, like they basically are out of champs when they're still going to play spoiler and that's the one thing we'll ever talk about. Like, because are we talked about this before? No, they're cooked.
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If the team doesn't make, like, they basically are out of champs when they're still like two events left.
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Like, what do they do roster-wise?
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Do they just keep the same thing and just like chalk it up?
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Start experimenting, thinking about like, you know, who they could get for next year.
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Like, I feel like there's no point to keep the exact same roster and just getting World Star WORK_OF_ART.
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I feel like you would start getting out next year.
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They could, but that's also a waste of money like having to like
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keep fucking signing and resigning players know
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like aren't they like clauses in these contracts you drop
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someone you pay out there one month fucking severance salary
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to get dropped you pick one else up
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depends on how how much they care about that there's other added costs
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I mean you would stop moving them there if that's what the plan is
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well I think whatever anyway I think first off on the top's what the plan is. Well, I think, whatever.
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Anyway, I think first off, on the top six thing,
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the problem is that you only get like 30 points for getting six.
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So you're getting only zero or 10 points online.
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You get top six.
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It's not going to be enough when there's like a 15-way tie.
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Well, not 15, but there's like a three-way tie at like 90 and then 110.
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You're not going to pass enough teams by doing that. They basically have to. I think at some point get top four and probably win like too seriously. They get like 65 points and jump a bunch of people.
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I thought land wins were worth double online.
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You get 10 points for every CDO ORG win. Last gets you zero. Top eight gets you 15. Top six gets you 30. Fourth gets you 45, third 60, 75 second 100. It's actually an increase from last year.But the problem is it's kind of sneaky deceptive.
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That sounds, yeah. That doesn't sound right at all, yeah.
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Yeah, they had more online matches.
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How are they not fix this? Like, I don't understand how land is not worth, like, infinitely more than online.
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Listen, they, they want online to matter.
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They want to be ownership, bro.
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Yeah, it's so dumb.
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It's so dumb.
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They just want people to tune in to, like, see something that actually matters for the weeks.
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They want online to matter and ownership groups are allowing them to do it, bro.
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The proposals all go in front of the teams and are allowed to give feedback.
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Well, yeah, I'm sure the ownership groups are allowing them to do it.
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They're cutting the fucking buy-ins.
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I'd be saying do whatever at that point.
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Do you want our players to play two more matches?
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Sure.
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Yeah. I mean, I get my refund on my bias. Sure.
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I mean, in general, if we're going to have all that. Listen, you know my point. If we're going to have online activity, they should be playing 11 of split. Sure. I mean, in general, if we're going to have online activity,
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they should be playing 11 in a split.
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But just to finish my thought on Boston GPE before we get this next clip, I think you kind of keep the roster of now, and it's a good opportunity to see if any of these of players you want to bring in the next year, like how do they deal with sort of a lame duck situation? Do they keep grinding?Or they fail? And then the ones that fail, you just kick them the fuck out. I also think they need to turnover management in coaching staff, probably in the offseason. Didn't they just do that? Didn't they just hire?
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Yeah, one coach.
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They kept their same coaches.
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I thought they had two. I thought they got Shawnee PERSON and that other guy. They got shiny and magic. Well,
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both of their challenger coaches.
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I think they got to do a full evolve of how they're building rosters right now and coaching them because they're 11 and 22 in game 5 as a franchise. You tell me, do you think that's good?
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No, absolutely not. They've been horrible. Yeah.
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But they also went with like the odd job team
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when they got in.
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Like, I don't think they went with what they knew.
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They were the rest of the,
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no, I'm saying like management wise.
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They went with like the reciprocity connection that they had. They didn't, like, build the best possible thing. They went with, like, what they knew, which is the problem that we've discussed with every CDO ORG franchise is the hiring comes from the friendships.
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Like, it's been with every org. It's not just Boston GPE.
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Since day one, that I was. Yeah.
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We're not wrong, Pat PERSON.
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Let's move on.
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So, basically, the clips that I was showing while you guys were talking was pretty much just actual having a master class. He had the 1v1 clutch, which I was. We're not wrong, Pat PERSON. Let's move on. So basically the clips that I was showing while you guys were talking was pretty much just Estreel ORG having a masterclass.
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He had the 1v1 clutch, which I showed.
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L.A.G made a blind counter in the two-four round.
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The three-four round is when Estreel ORG just works on that. They get the bomb down. He gets the two pieces that I showed. He gets the streak. Now we're tied up at four. I mean, Boston GPE is just throwing this map away.They threw away to map, too. They threw this shit away. We get into the 4-4 round out. Now, Estro PERSON has the streak. And I love what they do here. They play off the streak. So Estreel ORG calls in a streak. They're able to get a blood. I don't know where the hellwas Snoopy PERSON? Where was Snoopy? Where is Snoopy PERSON going? Oh, no, look at Snoopy in their base right now, just going absolutely fucking rogue. I don't mind the play if they all hit it with him.But look, everybody turned around and Snoopy PERSON kept going. And as soon as Snoopy PERSON dies, the street comes in, they got all the info. And I love how LAG ORG plays this. They get the info. And they say, let's go. Hit that go button.Use our numbers. And they just run. They run Boston GPE down. And this is kind of where to come back pretty much. Well, actually, the comeback started in the, what was it, 2.5, right?It was 2.5 when they started to come back.
Speaker 41850.44s - 1852.4s
So crazy blaze from L.A.G.
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It was 1-4, I think, right?
Speaker 41853.7s - 1854.68s
No, it was 2-5.
Speaker 01854.84s - 1857.44s
It was 2-5. It was 4-4. It was 2-5.
Speaker 41857.56s - 1859.16s
It was 4-4-0-4-3.
Speaker 61859.58s - 1860.4s
Yeah, I don't know about that time.
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Or, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
Speaker 61862.28s - 1863s
They won 5 straight.
Speaker 01863s - 1865.22s
It was 1-4, 1-4, 1-4. Wait. It was one four. You're right. You're right. One four, one four.
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Wait.
Speaker 61865.94s - 1866.32s
It was Boston GPE.
Speaker 81866.98s - 1867.86s
Like, no, go ahead.
Speaker 61867.92s - 1871.7s
I was going to say this Boston GPE team, when the rounds slow down, bro, and they got to make decisions.
Speaker 81871.92s - 1873.12s
They are cooked, bro.
Speaker 61873.12s - 1875.06s
They make the absolute worst mid-round plays.
Speaker 81875.06s - 1876.22s
For some is that play from Snoop PERSON?
Speaker 01877.12s - 1878.2s
I mean, don't tell it.
Speaker 81878.3s - 1879.04s
That's what it is.
Speaker 21879.06s - 1880.88s
It's the same thing that happened to them on the Rio PRODUCT, bro.
Speaker 81880.98s - 1883.48s
They literally, they just black the fuck out, bro.
Speaker 21883.54s - 1891.32s
They just make such dumb decisions. Like, most, if they're not, like, They literally, they just black the fuck out, bro. They just make such dumb decisions. Like, most, if they're not, like, forcing trades,they're just lost. It's so bad. Yeah,
Speaker 01891.4s - 1903.1s
and then, uh, you see, that round comes, uh, happens,and then we get to the round 11. And this is where boss, I can rewind a little bit, just to show you guys how they get into this situation. Um, who ended up getting,who ended up getting picked for boss and it was Pentagram ORG.
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Femga ORG, or someone got native, I think.
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Yeah, yeah, somebody did get nated by fame. I remember that. And then you can see Flames ORG. They ended up, no, it wasn't a nade. We're thinking of something else.
Speaker 61912.5s - 1913.9s
That was the prior round of them.
Speaker 01913.9s - 1919.2s
Flames ORG, they try and hit mid. So Boston GPE go for a mid hit. That was also a weird mid hit too from Boston GPE.
Speaker 61919.4s - 1922.18s
They won the stun fight. It was weird.
Speaker 01922.38s - 1923.46s
They hit up Eski PERSON.
Speaker 61923.62s - 1928.36s
They went to guys. They throw the attacks out. They slide forward. They won the stun fight on defense. So they got out mid, actually. They went to guys. They throw the attacks out. They slide forward. They won the stun fight on defense. So they got out mid, actually.
Speaker 81928.64s - 1936.72s
They're also not checking this vending quarter, so fame gets a free kill. He's overexposed. No one's getting fame straight if they just hard clear him. And they just don't.
Speaker 01936.88s - 1946.22s
But the real problem here at the round was here when Boston GPE gets the bomb down. Now, the bomb goes down, but it's the way that Boston GPE plays it after the fact. Now, I know they're down a man, so doing things.
Speaker 61946.22s - 1947.24s
Where are we going, bro?
Speaker 01947.4s - 1955.24s
Yeah, I like them that, I like that they're trying to make a play because they're downed man, but the problem is, is they gave up the bomb. They just gave up the whole bomb site.
Speaker 41955.82s - 1956.82s
There's two problems, Tom PERSON.
Speaker 01957.2s - 1977.1s
Two problems. I do think if somebody from Boston GPE wins this fight. See number two right now, Fame ORG. If Fame ORG doesn't win that fight and he loses that, I can see somebody from Boston pinching and now L.A.G ORG's kind of like, oh, shit, what's going on?But fame wins the one-on-one. Obviously, Boston GPE's out of the play. L.A.G ORG recognizes it, and they just hop on the bomb. I mean, they already have somebody on the bomb.
Speaker 41977.16s - 1985.92s
They hop on and look over it. It was weird plays there. Go ahead, Ben PERSON. I want to know L.AG ORG's comms when they got on the site and saw the bomb was playing in default. And they're like, what the fuck are these guys doing?
Speaker 81986s - 1987.76s
Oh, they recognize situations.
Speaker 41987.96s - 2010.82s
Because if you back up and you're not planning for boxes, like how are you going to get bomb checks here? I don't know. This is like to your point, Chris, they just, when they get in these situations Boston GPE, but they need to kind of execute man up, man down tactics, post plans, they have no concept that how to play like fundamentals at all.If it's not Yolo child shit and then play off of that, like they're completely lost this level right now.
Speaker 82011.28s - 2015.28s
They got to that bomb site and they saw it was planning for garage and their eyes lit up.
Speaker 02015.32s - 2016.5s
Yeah, there's nobody there.
Speaker 12016.62s - 2017.4s
There's nobody there.
Speaker 02017.4s - 2052.42s
The round is over. I would rather than play from the other side and just hold their P2 pinches and just if they want to push through garage and shit, just Higglets the truck and shit and just like play a corner boxers or something like if you're going to push out one side I rather than push the other side, especiallywith how they planted it. But yeah, no, this was this was bad or at least playing for boxes. I feel like you've got to play for boxes too. I think boxes is really important, but definitely a little bit of a misplay maybe fromBoston but I mean LAG ORG did get the blood initially. So good ice from the L.A.G. Any thoughts on the map, too, guys? Come on.
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Very star, bro.
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All right. Then we go over to the control, the high-rise control. This here, I was just surprised that L.A.G. didn't cap be here. They had so many kills. And they just didn't.They were just, like, so, it was just solo capping his shit. Like, I've talked about it now. What do you guys think is the best thing to do on offense on this map? Do you think you should play for kills and have one guy on the point stopping clock? Or do you think when you have opportunities to stack, you stack? I'm a stacker guy. I feel like you got to play for stacks shit. But I know some people think on high rise it's better to push out, stop the clock,and try and take the round of lives. How would you guys play? I'm a
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stack guy myself as well. I mean, the problem
Speaker 82092.14s - 2094.06s
is they did get all those kills, but they didn't get
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them, like, when they had, like, a dominant presence on the map.
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They got them kind of, like, around their base and they were all spread. So, like, you couldn't. They played two points, too. They were on two points.
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Yeah. But that's the thing, though, is you kind of have to do a degree. Like, like, you couldn't. They played two points, too. They were on two points. But that's the thing, though, is they kind of, you kind of have to do a degree. Like, you can say stack all you want, but you always have to play for this right side push-through. Because if they get around your green tarp or they go top heli, like, the guy that's playing for that push-through can make a play on them and deny that side of the map. You're also just like a big distraction. So I think they played it well.I mean, this map map just it's just
Speaker 02125.44s - 2138.64s
hard s yo got cobbied by beans and then a propane explosion uh came out it fucking blew them up so that doesn't help either when the fucking propane blows the fuck up for people that like watch at home
Speaker 82138.64s - 2157.18s
or like play ranked and stuff like that the environment here's so different because you got to understand only two trophies are on a player at a time. And you can't just like yolo stack points. Like there's a lot of times where players are caught out with zero trophies. And those nades are just going to instantly kill you off the points. So stacking sometimes is just not the best idea if you don't have trophies.
Speaker 02157.64s - 2163.88s
Yeah, you definitely need trophies on the stack. I mean, you could dodge nays too. You could feel that presence with grenades sometimes, Chris PERSON, and dodge them as well.
Speaker 82163.92s - 2164.66s
Yeah, sometimes, yeah.
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And then we go to the last. And this is where L.A.G ORG, they end up winning the round by lives. And again, they kind of just put Boston GPE in a trap. They had every lane, and Boston GPE couldn't get out of the base. And L.A.G ORG just do a good job, just filling in the gaps, filling in the lanes, and not letting Boston GPE breathe. I mean, they couldn't get out of the spawn.And L.A. GPE was able to cap A, work some more kills. Or sorry, Cap B, work more kills, and then rotate over to A and Cap this as well. You can see Boston GPE. They're able to get in here last second. But as S-Rio goes down, the streaks come in from Diamond Con ORG. I mean, you just look at the stat sheet from Boston GPE.They were not getting kills here. They were just getting funneled, spawn killed, spawn trapped. It was a good map from LIG. They closed it out with style. They were not getting kills here. They were just getting funneled, spawn killed, spawn trapped. It was a good map from L.A.G. They closed it out with style. They were shitting on them. Any thoughts on the control?Because I didn't have much on the control. I'll be honest.
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The control was clean.
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The control seemed pretty clean to me from L.A.G. It was pretty clean from watching it. I didn't see much. But if you guys saw something, let me know.
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We've seen L.A.G. ORG struggle struggle on that map they were really good at it in the beginning of the year and then struggled and it seems like maybe they've turned the corner on it we've seen a lot of in sam and i were talking about the watch party a lot of high-rise controls last couple of weeks because i think people don't want to play invasion or karachi and i it's kind of a race right now that teams to try and get it in a certain spot on that map for land so we'll see if
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lag are in a it was was also a breach's first loss. In control?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So they were undefeat on what Karachi GPE before?
Speaker 52251.26s - 2252.16s
Yeah, 2-1-Karachi.
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Now, this is the six-star heart point.
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Now we're on a map number four.
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This is a mistake from L-A-G ORG, in my opinion. Sam PERSON, I know we talked about it a little bit during the watch party, but take a look here. So number four, Diamond Khan PERSON. He's by himself on point. Now, I don't know why Flames ORG is backing all the way up here. Like, you have somebody pushed out Fallon PERSON, you have somebody pushed out mid-map, and you haveDiamondCon who sees all this pressure coming front. I don't know why Flames ORG didn't just stay on point and help Diamond Con front. Like, even if Diamond Con and Flames ORG maybe hold a crossfire, get behind the desk, and just pream Elwha ORG and let them hop up. I felt like they could have funneled Boston GPE here, but they kind of just let Boston GPE walk through front.
Speaker 82293.18s - 2294.88s
Go back a little bit to before.
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So the Flames ORG is backing up because he thinks his teammates going to.
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Yeah, so he thinks his teammates going to spawn on the hill. Like you'll see. He's whenever his teammate dies, he's going to back up. Look, number two dies. He's backing up. He's under the impression. All right, my teammates going to spawn on the hill. Like, you'll see. Whenever his teammate dies, he's going to back up. Look, number two dies. He's backing up. He's under the impression.All right, my teammate's going to spawn on hill, and he spawns out that he just doesn't know what to do.
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O'Connor PERSON jumped out, too. He jumped off a plat. Yeah, I don't know what happened there.
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He jumped out here.
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He got one. I think he went rolling. He probably tried to get a two pieces of some. I don't know. He tried to make a play. He was by himself getting sworn, but I don't know, Chris PERSON, it felt too easy.
Speaker 82328.04s - 2332.16s
Yeah, but that's the problem with L.A.G. They're just, like, they have a really... They're too separated.
Speaker 02332.16s - 2344.92s
They have a bad perception of just space and pressure on the, like, the opposing team to the point where they're either taking too much time or they're just not, like...
Speaker 32344.92s - 2347.2s
They're not, like, they're not not like they're not they're not like
Speaker 82347.2s - 2363.38s
stack in the right shit they know they just have to they have trouble reading pressure of teams and that's why like they they get insta broken that's why whenever they're trying to break hills it takes them three fucking years they just don't they they they mismanaged their space a lot and i think that's just something that they have to work on because they've had that problem this whole time
Speaker 02363.38s - 2375.08s
yeah sam how would you play the situation here if you're L-A-G? How would you try and set up? Because they are pretty far pushed out. You have number three pushed out mid, flames is all the way in the back. Diamond Kines PERSON by himself here. How would you play it?
Speaker 62375.82s - 2388.34s
Well, they actually double-played old, and I got, I don't know if they know seven is here. I think Nate PERSON actually got here without being spotted, but I like the initial play to double play old because it guarantees your info. Granted, fame does spawn out. I think they saw him, yeah.
Speaker 02388.34s - 2392.44s
I mean, that's just a poor pressure or pressure read by basically what Chris PERSON said.
Speaker 82392.62s - 2398.24s
If they know that these guys are here and they double played old, I think they should be secure in the front. Number two, might not have saw him.
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No, he's like bad timing. No, no, did he got shot out. Yeah, Nate PERSON got shot at him. Yeah. So I think this is just to Chris PERSON's point. I think they're rather pressure poorly.The back is less important in the situation because you know at most there's probably going to be one there. You saw two here, one on scrap time. You're missing one guy. You can let Estreo Roman PERSON play for that. And once fame spawns out as well, I think the holding the front push is far more importantbecause then this is when you can get blended from the P2 to P3 chain because you can just get spawn trapped in the back the whole time. So I think Chris PERSON was right for sure.
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All right. Anybody else got anything to say on that? Chris or Pat, Ben PERSON? No.
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All right. Then we go over here. This was a really good place from Pantagram ORG here.
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I just wanted to highlight it. You see L.A.G ORG, they got to break this P5 hard point. Diamond Con ORG. He goes for the long route here. And this is a really big one-on-one here on the pinch, because if Diamond Con ORG wins his fight, it can open up the break here. But Pentegram PRODUCT just acknowledging that somebody could be taking a wrong route, and it wins that fight, and then comes back and is able to help his teammates with these crossfires here, put some bullets down into people.I thought it was a great head to play by Pentegram PRODUCT. I think he also ended, like, 33 and 18 on this map or something. So, like, to see Pentagram ORG having maps like that is good to see. But just a really good play there. It's important to pick up those pinches. Some people don't do that.So good plays in Pagram ORG. And then we get into the P4 PRODUCT here. This is a second P4. This is where Fame ORG. He's sitting on an eight. He gets on an eight spree here.They didn't catch all of it. But fame goes fucking crazy here. And him going on this spree here ultimately. Or cheese catch all of it, but fame goes fucking crazy here. And him going on this spree here, ultimately...
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George's right there.
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Bro, before this spree even happened,
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go all the way back.
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Go even further back to how long it took fame
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to make this play, though.
Speaker 42496.78s - 2497.74s
Like, I get why.
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Like, he's, like, kind of, like, waiting, but just, like, look how long of it. Look at number two, bro.
Speaker 02502.38s - 2509.48s
Like, look how long it takes from clear everything. It's just, bro, there's a point. He has time. No, he has time.
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He has a little bit of time. But, like, it's just more so, like, the meticulous playstyle that he has at times is just what's holding him back, bro. There's times where you just got to chalk up, like, certain angles and be like, okay, if a person is playing this, like, you got to chalk it up.
Speaker 62529.56s - 2534s
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, dude. Like, there there's just it just takes so long and i get it there's there's ratty angles and stuff like that but two degree his boys died it died again before he's
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playing a streak here too yeah he's he's playing a streak he's playing his timing and i like i said
Speaker 62538.52s - 2543.3s
i get it this is just one example of like times where i feel like his pacing at times is just
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too slow and you got to you got to
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just think about that from like a broader game perspective and not just this one scenario because it's just it's a problem they just they struggle to break hills because they're just too slow as a
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team and yeah I know yeah I agree the fact that his teammates died and re-hit the hill before he even got close to it uh I think is an issue. That should never happen. And then we go into the pool hill and it becomes a fucking swim fest. But let me pull up the next clip for this one so we don't go over 120 seconds. And then, of course, we got the P5 break coming in from Boston GPE here. I'm going to rewind it a little bit just so you guys can see kind of how this ends up unfolding. But it goes over to the P5 LG PRODUCT.They got the streaks. they're able to get in there and you can see Boston GPE how they're able to break it they end up pushing through midstairs they push through Platt Diamond Con was actually able to get a couple kills here how did Boston break this? I feel like LAG ORG should have him in afucking funnel here he got fame picking up mid-map unfortunately he loses a big fight there to Pentagram ORG and Pentagram had an MCW sprinting out of mid as well and then he wins too um so sam that must have been that must have been an op gun yeah you got
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there's a rival in the feed right there time i think i think tom this is exactly what chris is talking about
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i don't think they did a good job of of reading the pressure here knowing that people are more likely going to go outside
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go further go into mcw FAC i don't know you're talking about wait can you guys go further back to, like, before the kills went down?
Speaker 62626.92s - 2630.12s
Like, I want to see how they, like, got kills and if there's any space they could have taken.
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Because, like, right here, Connor PERSON wins this one.
Speaker 42632.36s - 2632.74s
Okay, yeah.
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So Connor PERSON's going to get in the hill.
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He's going to win this 1B1 PRODUCT.
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He's got another player on him. He's just taking his sweet time. Number three goes over here. Honestly, number three gets bad timing. They get that trade. Oh, no, they get a street kill here.
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Yeah, the street kills comes in. They get another wave.
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Bro. And they run down mid, Pentegram PRODUCT dies. Diamond Kong gets another two kills here.
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It starts with the kill middle.
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It starts with the kill middle. It does start with that kill middle. But like, if I'm number one, bro, I'm flying past Connor and I'm getting into like Tiki PERSON.
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Like that, like, I'm not even, like, I'm ignoring mid because that route is like,'s just not like it's it's not going to be like that important in the grand scheme of things if
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they can like get pressure on their side um by the time your teammates spawn up like they can pick up
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this like immediate pinch towards p2 like i'm just like oh all these guys are dead i'm pushing up
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teaky and getting in front of connor Connor PERSON can watch this his teammates are going to come and
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reinforce but instead like he like flames is just, so slow to kind of do anything there.
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And he's just, like, waiting.
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Like, just take more space.
Speaker 42689.24s - 2691.88s
Just take way more space. Stop being, like, afraid to push.
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If you're going past the, if you're by the bomb, if you are hopping over that wall
Speaker 42695.94s - 2699.64s
and you're breaking from his P3 side, you're going to cross so many lanes the guys
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coming off a spawn crossing you. And I agree with Chris PERSON. The way people generally break this is they go down the stairs. We've seen a lot of good teams hold its sale by double stacking close, getting the kills and and reading the pressure correctly. And it gets to your point, Chris PERSON, they really struggle with that at times.And they get caught running forward, running backwards, holding irons. Yeah, get, if they get pushed up on that tiki side and, like, half front pressure, that's going to come, that's going to make Boston GPE basically get put into a sandwich when all those players off LNG come up off spawn. Like, it's just way more important. You'll notice like yeah that guy dies mid but ultimately where they breakthis hill is because two Boston GPE players just jump into the fucking water right in front of Connor PERSON because he has to watch like so much stuff or DiamondCon ORG sorry Anna PERSON.
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Just the way I look at it. Great heart point again
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from the Boston GPE breach. They worked some good breaks there
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They went to that pedigramal. I had to also swerve his streak there at the Yeah, for the building on six- it. Great hard point again from the Boston GPE breach. They worked some good breaks there. They went to that pedigram. I had to also swerve his streak there.
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Yeah, for the building.
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Everyone's been doing that.
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Then we get to the last S&D,
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and man, did some shiggo down in the last search.
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We're going to start things off hot.
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We're hearing the three-three round.
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This was the biggest swing of the game,
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in my opinion.
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DiamondCon ORG, in a 1v3 situation situation all boss needs to do is trade him out but diamond con
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con with a credit spot finds one finds two and reach how snoopy with that mcw and is able to find
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a three piece one v three's in about five seconds that is fucking insane what a play from
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connor uh definitely had to show him some guys. No, no thoughts
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there, guys? You didn't think that was fucking insane?
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I mean, that was absurd. The game was over after
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that shit. It would also be much more impressive
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if it wasn't against this team. I feel like
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anybody in the league, if you're in
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any clutch scenario, you're just licking
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your lips against this squad because you know you're
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about to get a highlight clip.
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They can't stop getting touched on, Tom PERSON.
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But also, this is just like new map cheese. There's just like a... That's just like a highlight clip. Now, but also this is just like, they can't stop getting touched on Tom PERSON. But also this is just,
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this is just like new map cheese.
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Like there's just like a,
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that's just like a random cready.
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Right.
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I think a lot of people are going to clutch there, Chris PERSON,
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because they're going to do some insane shit. Now,
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they put that spot. They run away lower. No.
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They fake out kill cams. Like, I mean, we've already started, we saw two clutches today in the exact same small watch.
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If somebody jumps down on the bottom of the map in a clutch scenario i'm licking my lips bro that guy is out of the fucking
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and i'm going on there and i'm on my stomach as you run down there and i fucking pre like you
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don't have to chase him that guy that's that guy is irrelevant bro if a guy jumps down there if a guy jumps down there he's essentially irrelevant to the entire bomb site he has to jump up on a side and if he goes to the other side that's such a long route that like hits chalk by the time like he gets up there one and i'm the one
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they're playing the bomb i just think there's some finesse ability there i got i got a rebuttal to
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i got a rebuttal to austin really quick so breaches now one and eight in game fives that means they were one in five with him and oh and three with the new roster yeah my bad austin
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cussie case they all want to go to the next round it's the four three round i'd love roster. That's great. Yeah, my bad, Austin, Cassie Strait PERSON.
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They don't want to go to the next round.
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It's the 4-3 round. I love the play from L.A.G. I love these. Why do I love it? Because they have Flames ORG who's playing all the way in the back of the spawn. L.A.G. get the bomb down, and we're thinking, oh, you know, this might be Boston GPE'sround. No, they have a plant spot. Flames ORG can see the bomb from back to their spawn. He shoots them off the bomb, and he runs out of there. love the plant uh plant position there i love how they set that up um i'm sure they went over some some post plant setups and some different angles to where they could see the bomb uh and i thought it was just a really good setup from from lagg PERSON because at first
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it looked like boston was about to diffuse this and at beans was just looking over him and it was a rap
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but flames PERSON gets an angle from back there spawn. Dom Kahn PERSON wins another fight. Great plays from L.A.G. Love that there.
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Was that a plan smart? He's just playing default there.
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I think that's the default plan.
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Yeah, I think Benj is on the half wall and he can't see wide enough.
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I mean, even having the actual, like, oh, it's had to play like that is good.
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I've seen people plan it behind the bomb to the right of the bomb towards Tiki PERSON.
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I've seen people plan in a lot of different spots.
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You see how we planted it more up against the wall here, up against this wall?
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Yeah, it's right.
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Yeah, he pushed it more to the right so that way flames can hit that angle and see it.
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Like, I think that was coordinated there.
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Look coordinated to me.
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But great plays. End up going up 5'3 here. And then we get to the infamous Boston Breach EVENT round. This is how we're going to end it. What the fuck was Boston Breach EVENT doing? Let's tune in.I'm going to start it off here. Now, Boston Breach, they get the first blood. It is a, I'm actually going to rewind it a little bit, just so you guys can see how long they were actually on the site. But they get the first blood here against L.A.G. L.EG ORG is trying to make a play throughyou. I think it was, I think it was fame. Yeah, fame tries to cross and Pentegrim ORG's able to find a kill. So here, 4B3 situation. Estro ends up backing up. As soon as Estreel ORG runs, boom, bomb down, without a doubt. As soon as you get the blood, you tag up Estrel PERSON, he runs away.
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He's been laying in that same spot for 20 seconds, but you have everything. You have your spawn,
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you have their spawn, You have their spawn. You have somebody looking mid. There was no reason to not plant this bomb. But what does Boston GPE do in this situation? They push.
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Chat, what's the worst play that you think you can make?
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Bro, Flames ORG shoots.
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Flame PERSON shoots and they all ran at them, bro. Un-fucking believe. That's the war, though. Flames ORG had serious. He shot his gun and they just, look at them. Look at them. They're just chasing him. They want to kill him. I don't know why I don't want to kill him, bro. Un-fucking believe it. And Diamond Conn PERSON says, he shot his gun and they, look at them. Look at him.They're just chasing him. They want to kill him.
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I don't know why they don't want to kill him so bad. They're literally right. They want to kill him so bad. Diamond Khan PERSON gets the streak because he takes the fucking a super. Look at the flake. He's taking a fame route, Chris PERSON.
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But Diamond Con ORG got this street because, dude, I actually did.
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Yeah, Connor got the streak because they took three years to plant the bomb and
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Connor PERSON ended up flanking when the guy flanked gave it up and went to go play with his teammates
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because they just had no idea what the fuck was happening on the map.
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Yeah, bro. Them chasing a red dot there?
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You all know those like Scooby-Doo WORK_OF_ART chase scenes when it go from like door to door? Yeah.
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That's what I feel like this was.
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It's like the hallway with a bunch of doors and shit.
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Yeah, flames are just like running around and they're just chasing him.
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They just can't catch them.
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Yeah, I don't know what that was. I feel like it's common sense. Hit a site. If you have control, you have numbers. What's the objective of offense on S&D? Plant.Plant the bomb. That's the objective. Every situation you have to plant the bomb, especially right there, I just don't understand.
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Especially after the smoke goes down.
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They have no smoke anymore. If you don't plant that shit? Yeah, it's gone. I mean, I just don't understand. Especially after the smoke goes down. They have no smoke anymore. They had a use smoke.
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If you don't plant that shit?
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Yeah, it's gone.
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The you smoke is gone.
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There's no smoke.
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All the lanes are open.
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Like, that's a free bomb plant.
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That's a free hold.
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And especially with your teammate.
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One of their teammates in Boston GPE,
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he was in the fucking depths of the map.
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He had the entire flank. There's nobody coming up behind you, bro. You're safe.
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Yeah, agree. Any final thoughts on the first series, guys, with Boston GPE and L.A. It was a good series. No ice. No're safe. Yeah, agree. Any final thoughts on the first series, guys, with Boston and L.A. It was a good series.
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No ice.
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No ice.
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That's your final thoughts.
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No ice.
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I think Boston GPE's shocked
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and, you know,
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maybe they make this exciting
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down the stretch here.
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Maybe they figure out the search,
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but I'm in time again this franchise. It's just Walter PERSON in the big moments. This team is one of, like many of them have to come before and we'll probably come after unless they change up. All right. Let's move in the big moments. And this team is one of, like many of them have to come before and we'll probably come after unless they
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change up. All right. Let's move into the next series. Before we do, today's episode is presented by Steel Series. Last week, we told you about the Epic ORG Limited Edition Phase Clan X Steel Series PRODUCT collection.Today we have some amazing news for everyone. They've just gone global. That's right. You can now grab the Phase Edition Nova 7 wireless headset, Apex 9 mini keyboard, the Aerox 3 wireless mouse mouse and QCK, double XL, heavy mouse pad from all SteelSeries retail partners globally as well as from SteelSeries.com ORG. That's what I'm talking about.
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No longer just Best Buy ORG exclusive, ladies and gentlemen. No longer. It doesn't matter. So make sure to go show some love. Come in Steele Series PRODUCT in the chat. And as always, you shout out to Steel Series PRODUCT. They've been awesome, man. I'm using the headsets right nowand they're absolutely phenomenal.
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I got my wireless headset. It's got to get a little plug adapter so I'm using my GoXLR PRODUCT and they'll see me
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using during the show. Yeah, that's fine. The wireless
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heads are cool. Michaela has them in like you charge the, there's two batteries and you charge one of them in the mix amp.
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So when one dies, you just take it out, swap it out, and then you're good to go.
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Yeah, quick swap.
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It's dope.
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I really like how they did that.
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But let's move on to the next series.
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We have Toronto Ultra going up against the Carolina Royal Ravens ORG. This one ended in a 3-1 fashion for Toronto Ultra PRODUCT. The only map that Carolina ORG was able towin was that second map, that S&D ORG, but the response Carolina ORG were not able to get a dub. They were closein that last map, that fourth map will get there, but it was Toronto GPE. They get the 3-1 victory here.We'll scroll down. Oh, Jesus, fuck! It is a red carpet for the Carolina Royal Ravens ORG. Sam, we'll start with you. We got Toronto versus Carolina ORG.What did you think about the series?
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We got Dylan Envoy PERSON return to form here. We had a good couple hard points from him, so it's definitely good to see. Jamie Insight PERSON, unfortunately, still a little bit to be desired for sure Carolina won the 5-2 comeback in map 2 so the series was a little bit longer than it should have been but I think this is a result the majority of people were expecting even if Toronto GPE is underperforming I think that the way that their team is structured and just how they've played the game to this pointthis season I really don't expect them to lose to a bottom A team. Like I said, even if they're not performing the best, I think that they just have some of the best systems and fundamentals to make up for that. So I know I've been hard on Envoy and Insight PRODUCT, and I think rightfully so, but it kind of just took care of business today, to be honest, Scrap and Dill PRODUCT just kind of fried them.Yeah, agreed.
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I thought Carolina ORG pulled a decent map set for the series. And when we got to the double
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Rios, at the end, I thought Carolina ORG taking the map too. They had a real chance to take
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that map for going to the last map Rio to maybe put Toronto GPE an uncomfortable situation because they haven't been that good at Rio S&D. ORG But instead, I thought the response was very poor from Carolina today. Uh, the listening was a little bit better, but there's still a lot to be desired. And it's the same problem, man, like, especially in a day like today where, you know, subpliers weren't having their best days. The A.R. is continued to struggle to have an impact on the map.And unfortunately, it's going to happen sometimes with Carolina ORG. They just can't keep up with the slaying.
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Agreed. Chris PERSON, what did you think about the series? Toronto Ultra PRODUCT. They get the 3-1 victory over Carolina ORG.
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It's good to see Envoy PRODUCT not have a stinker. Scrappy PERSON played really good as well. I mean, Carolina ORG, they clutch up an S&D, but they're respawned against these top teams. They just don't compete in this lane department unless Gwen PERSON is having a ridiculous series.So, yeah, I mean, Toronto GPE taking care of business, Ravens ORG continue on their
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struggles against the good teams. Blow it up. Sorry. Blow that shit up. Pat PERSON, you try to blow it up or what? I just don't think they're going to
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be any team without a Gwen PERSON superstar performance. And that's not going to happen every series. And so being relying on that is really dumb. This team was not good previously. Moving into the same team house or apartment, whatever, I don't think it's changing this team. So, yeah, I still want a Carolina ORG change because I believe this team has the abilitywith the roster moves to be decent, my personal opinion.
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Well, you have Gwynn PERSON. He's a perfect player to build around.
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I mean, that's the type of player you want. Somebody aggressive, you could get kills, you can make plays. I agree, Pat PERSON. I feel like the
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one series they did win, it was just a Gwynne ORG complete takeover series. Like, the rest of them have definitely been struggling. And even today, Gwitzel, they all struggled today, to be fair.
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Ravens are also 2 and 13 when they lose the first map. So they have,
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damn, you know, they get compromised very easily. Yeah. That's everybody right. We got through everybody there.
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I say we get to some clips here.
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Hold on. Before I do, I know we were talking about Envoy PRODUCT.
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First time he went positive in the last fifth or ten hard points.
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So congratulations. That's impressive.
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Yeah, that's a W. That's a W for sure.
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Good streak break.
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I was concerned about Jamie PERSON.
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Jamie PERSON had a real rough couple of maps
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in this series. Like, I think he's still got to figure it out because the form that hehad a major one now he doesn't have. And yeah, you know, Jamie PERSON gives you and I thinkhe's on the Karachi GPE control. He's so good, man, both playing his life and applyingpressure, especially the defense as they had in the Karachi control. He gets exposedon hard points, like a real hard point, for example, where against a better team, like an optic or phase, it's going to be a huge fucking problem. So hopefully he can put in the work and figure it out going their home major in a few weeks.
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Yep. Let's move into some clips, unless anybody has anything else to say before we move on. All right, let's move on to the first clip I have from the series. We're here on a sub-base, and I just want to take a look at these spawns here. I know you notice this in the game. We're here on a sub-base, and I just want to take a look at these spawns here, Ben PERSON.I know you notice this in the game. We're all a little bit confused here. Now, it's going from a P-1 to P-2 PRODUCT. It's looking like Carolina ORG have the spawns here, but it's here, but bang! It's inside.See, now, 8 and 12, he spawns behind him. And I'm guessing it's because Clay PERSON's kind of, like, overpushed here in Warehouse. I mean, is that what's going on here? He's kind of crossing that line or is that spot just completely, you know, they're fugues. What's going on here?
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It's the only shit that makes sense to me is where Clay PERSON's at.
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Absolutely, the hill's not white. They're not like overpushed anywhere else. The only thing that could be influenced at this, at least looking at the mini map unless this game, just dog shit is Clay PERSON.
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Yeah, but I feel like I've seen people in warehouse
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in this situation, and this doesn't happen.
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I think if you go back there and block it,
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like,
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I think if you're actually,
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when you go back to that spot and you're watching the red in the back,
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maybe you block it and then you know, it doesn't happen, but because nobody's there, the spots open. Nah, bro,
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it definitely influenced it a little bit
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by Clay PERSON pushing because he wasn't pushed initially.
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Well, it ended being a big spawnout, Tom PERSON, because they got broke on this hill.
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Yeah, no, because it's a huge spawn out.
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I mean, this is big here.
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This is an opportunity here for Carolina ORG to chain some hills here and take a lead. And instead, it's Insight PRODUCT who spawns behind him. Carolina ORG has no idea he's there.
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And he's able to win one by a little bit of time here for his teammates. And Toronto Ultra PRODUCT, they get in there.
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I'm calling end of the hill cheese, bro.
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Just like Karachi GPE has the end of the hill cheese.
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End of P1.
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End of P1 cheese, bro.
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There's a fucking hamster in a wheel that just spins in every fucking lobby.
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Balls activate when there's less than 30 seconds left on the hill, bro.
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Swear a good.
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Twerep.
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And then, uh, it's going back and forth a little bit.
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And then we're going over to a second P4 here.
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And this was an opportunity where I thought Carolina can really lock down a full 60.
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But it's the Dillon Envoy PERSON show here. The plays that he makes to break this hill is insane. He drop shots Clay PERSON after getting tagged up, able to stay alive. He feels that presence behind him for Fellow, takes him out, turns the corner slides, takes down, Clay PERSON. This guy, Dailanamo PERSON is going nuts. Nade's the time.Gets another one on Gwynn PERSON, jumping down. Boom, that's going to flick those spons. Dailen Omboy PERSON did it all. He literally did it all right there. You can see the spawns come in, the break comes in. Toronto Ocho ORG with a perfect break.That's all Dillon Omboy PERSON right there, in my opinion. I thought he made a fantastic play. And this ultimately leads to them winning the map here, too, as well. So really good plays from Dylan PERSON. That was, yeah, you got ace him in the chat, too, so gassing him up. That was fucking sick.That was fired. Sam PERSON, what gun is that?
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That's fucking, who's his second guy? He's smoking crack, bro. He's just full sprinting around the corner at him.
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Yeah, I think because he was one shot, Tyler thought he was going to get out of him.
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Is it a fellow? Bro, he's literally just sprinting.
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Sprinting, bro. Absolutely. Clay PERSON also spawns close.
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Yeah, guys again. Yeah, guys again. Like, look, Dylan kills Clay, then kills Tyler. Clay PERSON comes off spawn, challenges him again. And then he kills Clay PERSON again. And Clay PERSON was going through it.You probably lost fucking company. Yeah. Being two deaths in the same break is kind of insane. Yeah.
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Other than that, any thoughts on a map one or thoughts on that play right there from Dylan Envoy PERSON? I ultimately led to that.
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That's what we're waiting on, man. Using the AR. He brought it back.
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Yeah, 100%. That's what Dill PRODUCT does, man. I mean, I think Dill PRODUCT should switch depending on maps and hills. I think everybody should. Like, Slay PERSON, I see you shaking your head. Pat, you did that all the time in Black Ops WORK_OF_ART too.You always used to switch guns between ARs and subs PRODUCT and switch around and use whatever's best for in the moment. Whatever.
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I was the hardest player to play against, Tom PERSON. No one could read me on the map, especially not Christopher Duarte PERSON.
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But, you know, there like a big benefit to being
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like to switching up and kind of throwing your opponents off guard like you know if you just go hill to hill where like one hill you're running three subs hell of pressure one subs you run it or one hill you're running three ARs and playing like really locked down likeit's hard to play against from an opponent POV so yeah I love it I don't think there's anything wrong with that
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that Chris like or Pat like demonstrates a mastery of's anything wrong with that like that chris like or pat like demonstrates a mastery of the game mode to me like being able to like have people and you can do
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that like can switch on a dime and also have your whole team be on the same page with like people switching weapons and setups and stuff like that is just like an actual mastery of the mode yeah
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heading right there i know ben you were talking about in the moment that carolina had the good spawns and they were coming from the good side but but then T.J. PERSON gets smoked top snow. They're able to win some fights in Hill PERSON. Jesus Christ, Insight PRODUCT. Putting on a show, able to get three in Toronto GPE. We're able to close this out.Good place from Toronto here in the Map 1 to take down Carolina ORG. Obviously, that P1 to P2 spawn was very unfortunate for Carolina ORG. But definitely got to be careful next time putting pressure on that warehouse because it could flip you. It ended up costing them then here. And then good shot from Envoy there denying the hold on that P4 from Carolina ORG.Good place from him. Any thoughts on the map one, guys. Any final thoughts? Nope.
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I mean map four. Sorry.
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That was map one. Yeah, I'll see you. I faded. My bad sorry Yeah, sorry That was map 1
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Yeah honestly
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I'll see you
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Fated my bad
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L, land, land
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It's okay
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I thought I was faded for I was about to apologize
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I said oh sorry Map 4 I'll think about the series After that's not me But yeah
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Oh you're good
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It's sometimes Ben The series
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Get put into a blender
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bro
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We watch a lot of cod Go ahead Chris I was gonna say that Obway PERSON was looking like me Against complexity On Unite gaming bro I don't know say that Albuoy was looking like me against complexity on Unite Gaming ORG, bro.I don't know.
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Nah, that's crazy.
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I didn't see him with a riot shield. Did you guys?
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I did not use a riot shield.
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You had Chris PERSON pulling out a riot shield.
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Dude, riot shields, bro.
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And S&D ORG, they were running multiple.
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They were sitting behind them.
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It was moving cover.
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Unbelievable.
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That was so trash man
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let's move on to figure out a way Sam PERSON that's all it was
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like you mentioned there was just some teams who had
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the mastery of the mode and some teams who had to cheese it up
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Chris PERSON was in the cheese category
Speaker 03793.92s - 3800.12s
we get into the S&D here and Gwynn gets insane timing they showed the replay there at the end but he was basically top window
Speaker 23800.12s - 3805.06s
looking down and then as soon as he turns to go top window Toronto just hit low red
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and smoke him. That pretty much just opens up the site here and Toronto GPE was able to get the first offense on the map on the board. Good plays. I like the strad here from Toronto GPE. I love to play from Kleenex ORG like getting pushed out their side and kind of being a nuisance here. They had no idea he was here. Put some shots down into clay. You can see Carolina ORG. They just get funneled with 20 seconds left. There's really not much they can do.Good offense here, not from Toronto GPE. Dylan PERSON, he stopped shooting here. TJ PERSON's able to win the fight, but good plays from scrap here. Able to find one time runs out in Toronto GPE. They're able to go up one to three here.Now, this is where things start getting interesting. We go into the two, three round. I thought this is a great play from Toronto GPE. They actually throw the smoke here on the B-site. They do this a lot. Dylan PERSON throws the smoke down here.They run through the smoke, and they get this bridge control. They try and use their numbers. You can see the smoke comes down. Dylan's able to get to the stairs. I love the route there from Dill PRODUCT. How he runs, instead of running through the smokeand cutting to this fire car area, which I feel like most of the time, that's what people do. do he runs through it and he kind of comes from a weird angle to where he can go up the stairs here and nobody can see him fellow had a deeper so it covers the street
Speaker 63874.26s - 3879.28s
too instead of like right in the arch yeah it was very well executed by doing on boy he's able to
Speaker 03879.28s - 3889.84s
get that first blood onto fellow and then scraps able to find one onto gwen and then tj almost made the play here i feel like tj should have angled himself a little bit better here it was good place from dylan to
Speaker 63889.84s - 3894.04s
kind of just get off yeah i'd walk out to the right a little bit yeah that better angle because
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it because he right here he couldn't finish the kill if he walks to the right a little bit he could take the guy out up top and then just easily just get an easy snap onto the second guy great try though from t j PERSON huh It was a good try here. I thought it was a good play. I thought it was a good heads-up play, but unfortunately for him, Dale and Al-Bo PERSON gets off the bomb, smoke some 3V-1 situation.Make that all forward, boom, bada-bang.
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I was just going to mention something just a little nitpicky. I hate when people check it from that bottom arch. It's actually so much more beneficial if you go top market into the building and check it from up there if it's planted for there, which it was. Because if you get that kill, you essentially make it so they have to hard chase you up a building. They're either going up the back stairs, they have to go bridge and walk along the like wallto the plank or they have to jump down from top three. And it's just a lot harder of an instant trade rather than going to the bottom arch and like trying to get lost down there, which I feel like just, it's just a nitpicky.
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I don't know if it would have better than the scenario but
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that building is actually like really clutch in those like late round scenarios Mm-hmm Did we get into the 2-4 round and What the fuck is Carolina ORG doing? I've never seen anybody try and run out of thereNot even checking anything like no smoke like T.J. PERSON just dead ass
Speaker 63960.7s - 3962.46s
Did he throw it in a bloom at the end or might?
Speaker 03962.46s - 3963.16s
I don't know.
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Did it bloom?
Speaker 83964.16s - 3965.18s
Yeah, yeah yeah he threw it and ran out before the smoke club Yeah he just died before a bloom at the end or might? I don't know. I don't even know. Yeah, yeah, he threw it.
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He ran out before the smoke.
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Yeah, he just died before I shamed.
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He never threw it.
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There's a smoke on the bomb.
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There's a smoke on the bomb.
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There's a smoke there.
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Wait, he has a smoke.
Speaker 83975.68s - 3976.68s
Wait, does Clay PERSON have a smoke?
Speaker 63977.72s - 3979.88s
Wait, Clay PERSON, wait, go to watch the watch.
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Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
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Okay.
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Now, Clay PERSON doesn't have a smoke?
Speaker 03984.76s - 3985.7s
Who smoked it for him?
Speaker 63985.76s - 3986.1s
There's a smoke.
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Is he'll see Clay PERSON?
Speaker 03988.66s - 3990.08s
Wait, dills across the map.
Speaker 83990.38s - 3991.3s
Wait, what happened?
Speaker 03991.38s - 3992.88s
What did that smoke grenade come from?
Speaker 83993.44s - 3994.62s
Yeah, who threw that smoke?
Speaker 03994.76s - 3995.94s
Did T.J. PERSON shitted out?
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Did he shitted out his pants?
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Hold on.
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He never throws it because there's one when he dies.
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He never threw it around.
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No.
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Who threw that smoke?
Speaker 54004.28s - 4005.68s
Who threw the fucking smoke?
Speaker 24005.68s - 4007.94s
What if he threw it but the UI didn't update?
Speaker 54008.44s - 4008.86s
Smoke date.
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Maybe. Maybe he threw in a UI didn't show it?
Speaker 54010.7s - 4014.5s
You would see it. You would see him, you would see him throw it. He didn't throw it at all.
Speaker 24015.1s - 4018.22s
Is there something weird?
Speaker 54018.38s - 4019.9s
Clay Waltz PERSON is out without a smoke too.
Speaker 84020.38s - 4021.54s
Maybe fellow threw it?
Speaker 24021.68s - 4023.1s
I want to say he threw it as he got shot.
Speaker 84023.96s - 4024.32s
What?
Speaker 64024.54s - 4025.06s
I didn't throw. There is nothing there. No, bro. Martyr Dom PERSON smoke, bro. He had it when you Fellow through it? I want to say he threw it as he got shot. What? He didn't throw.
Speaker 54025.06s - 4026s
There is nothing there as he does.
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No, bro.
Speaker 54026.66s - 4027.9s
Martyr Dom PERSON smoke, bro.
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He had it when he did.
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He did it out, bro.
Speaker 84030.44s - 4030.92s
Bro, he didn't.
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What do you mean?
Speaker 64031.58s - 4031.96s
He threw it.
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He did not throw this.
Speaker 04034.12s - 4034.46s
I did.
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He didn't throw that shit, bro.
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And in Clay PERSON does the same thing.
Speaker 54038.2s - 4039.68s
Bro, Clay PERSON tries to run out.
Speaker 84040.2s - 4040.64s
Where did it?
Speaker 54040.82s - 4041.7s
With no smoke, no, no.
Speaker 04041.74s - 4043.32s
He just tries to waltz out by yourself.
Speaker 54043.32s - 4045.28s
I think, I think TJ PERSON shit it when he died.
Speaker 04045.4s - 4048.3s
Like, he hit the bumper as he died and then it just dropped.
Speaker 54048.5s - 4049.6s
No, because it would have been on his body.
Speaker 24049.8s - 4050.82s
It was like further out.
Speaker 84051.02s - 4052.12s
It was like out in the street.
Speaker 04052.28s - 4052.44s
No, bro.
Speaker 84052.44s - 4053.6s
What the fuck?
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What happened, bro?
Speaker 84055.46s - 4056.88s
Now I got to know I'm too curious.
Speaker 54057.24s - 4060.12s
It's either someone Toronto or fellow or Gwen PERSON through it.
Speaker 24060.28s - 4062.64s
See, I don't know.
Speaker 04062.96s - 4066.02s
I'm watching right now because he would have thrown it from his fucking spawn. I'm watching. I'm watching right. It's going to do it on my book because he would have thrown that from his fucking spawn.
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I'm watching.
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I'm watching right now.
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I want to say, wait.
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Smoke gate, bro.
Speaker 54069.74s - 4070.52s
It's smoke gate.
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Let me see.
Speaker 54072.16s - 4073.76s
Who the fuck through that smoke?
Speaker 04073.94s - 4077.24s
And I know for a fact, scrappy and insight do not have that on.
Speaker 64077.32s - 4078.52s
And six and eight are way too far.
Speaker 54078.58s - 4079.64s
So it's nobody from Toronto GPE.
Speaker 64079.98s - 4080.78s
Nobody from them.
Speaker 04081.04s - 4083.02s
Does Gwen PERSON have any throw it across an app?
Speaker 64083.18s - 4083.96s
He wouldn't have been able to.
Speaker 04084.34s - 4084.96s
He wouldn't have been able to.
Speaker 64086.28s - 4088.66s
Not because look at where Gwen was looking when TJ PERSON died.
Speaker 04090.34s - 4091.34s
Nah, that's insane.
Speaker 84091.58s - 4092.22s
What the fuck?
Speaker 64092.28s - 4093.48s
What the fuck happened, bro?
Speaker 84093.86s - 4095.44s
Clay PERSON's vague.
Speaker 24096s - 4096.72s
Clay PERSON was vaping.
Speaker 84096.88s - 4097.32s
That's what was.
Speaker 24098.06s - 4098.66s
That's crazy.
Speaker 04098.92s - 4102.28s
I think maybe TJ PERSON threw it, maybe the UI's not picking up.
Speaker 24102.44s - 4102.62s
Yeah.
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And the UI's not selling it.
Speaker 24103.3s - 4103.82s
Yeah.
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And the U.S. Is that the car smoke? Like, from the car next to the it up. Yeah, and the UI's not showing it. Wait, so people in Choir say it's the Nate PERSON smoke.
Speaker 04105.6s - 4106.6s
Is that the car smoke?
Speaker 64106.6s - 4107.6s
No.
Speaker 54107.6s - 4108.9s
That's a smoke grenade, bro.
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That is a smoke grenade, bro.
Speaker 54111.9s - 4113.4s
That is a smoke grenade, for sure.
Speaker 64113.4s - 4115.4s
Brother, that is...
Speaker 54115.4s - 4116.9s
Brother, that is smoke for sure.
Speaker 64116.9s - 4117.9s
Wait, when did they switch...
Speaker 54117.9s - 4118.9s
When did they switch to teach?
Speaker 84118.9s - 4120.9s
When did they switch to teach?
Speaker 44120.9s - 4121.6s
What the fuck is that?
Speaker 84121.6s - 4123.4s
Like, when was the first time they go on his POV?
Speaker 44123.4s - 4126.72s
Wait, I don't see a smoke on scrappy street.
Speaker 84127.22s - 4128s
Bro, what?
Speaker 74128s - 4129s
There's no smoke.
Speaker 04129s - 4129.8s
What is the fuck is happening?
Speaker 74129.8s - 4132.04s
Bro, there is no smoke on scrappy screen.
Speaker 04132.24s - 4133.44s
It was Clay PERSON.
Speaker 84134.14s - 4135.24s
This guy Clay PERSON's vapor.
Speaker 44135.36s - 4136.42s
Look, there's smoke on clay.
Speaker 54136.56s - 4137.94s
Look, a whole lot of smoke in.
Speaker 84138.1s - 4139.94s
It's not on Scraps ORG POV, but it's on.
Speaker 54140.08s - 4140.46s
What?
Speaker 74141.48s - 4141.92s
I don't know.
Speaker 34141.98s - 4143.42s
It must have been something we're not seeing.
Speaker 74143.54s - 4143.86s
I don't know.
Speaker 04143.94s - 4145.14s
Wait, why?
Speaker 74145.76s - 4146.88s
That's insane, bro.
Speaker 04147.06s - 4148.78s
We got to the bottom of this clip of action.
Speaker 84148.78s - 4150.54s
Maybe Tej PERSON did throw it into you.
Speaker 54150.62s - 4151.7s
It had to have been Teage PRODUCT.
Speaker 04151.88s - 4153.9s
It had to have been on Scrappy PERSON's thing.
Speaker 54153.98s - 4154.92s
It had to have been a bug.
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What the fuck?
Speaker 84156s - 4157s
That is a Caster bug.
Speaker 54157.24s - 4158.86s
Dan PERSON said it's a caster bug.
Speaker 84159.16s - 4161.38s
By the way, Codcasters is ass.
Speaker 04161.58s - 4163s
It's horrible.
Speaker 64163.12s - 4164.26s
Bro, it's laggy.
Speaker 84164.52s - 4166.18s
Every time someone dies at legs. It lads. Also, it's laggy. Every time someone dies at lags.
Speaker 64166.18s - 4166.58s
It lags.
Speaker 84167.22s - 4168.1s
Also, good shots here.
Speaker 64168.12s - 4169.36s
We get it to the 3-5 round.
Speaker 04169.44s - 4171.64s
I mean, Carolina ORG is slowly making the comeback here.
Speaker 54171.7s - 4172.46s
This is where it starts.
Speaker 24172.58s - 4173.86s
TJ makes a play through Green PERSON.
Speaker 54174.3s - 4175.72s
He was able to get that first blood.
Speaker 24176.18s - 4177.88s
And then they were able to wrap the bomb here
Speaker 64177.88s - 4179.78s
and bring this over to its A.
Speaker 54179.88s - 4181.98s
It starts with Scrap getting killed there by Gwen PERSON.
Speaker 64182.1s - 4183.52s
And now a 3V2 situation.
Speaker 24184.1s - 4186.4s
Fell, I think he jumps up in spots Kleenex here as well.
Speaker 04186.46s - 4187.52s
I'm pretty sure he saw him.
Speaker 64188.28s - 4192.98s
But then Carolina ORG, they end up waltzing over to this A-site and getting this stuff.
Speaker 04193.02s - 4195.88s
I thought for a second here, Kleenex ORG was about a clutch of shit.
Speaker 64196.7s - 4198.28s
You can see kind of how it unfolds.
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Insight goes down.
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Kleenex comes in, he gets the first kill.
Speaker 44201.9s - 4205.1s
He throws the stun grenade out, turns the corner right here.
Speaker 64205.66s - 4210.5s
If he doesn't switch from his pistol to his gun, he probably kills T.J. PERSON there.
Speaker 44211.18s - 4215.7s
And then that probably turns into a 1v1 with 30 seconds left on a clock.
Speaker 54216.5s - 4220.06s
Good wins by T.J., obviously, but I thought that was clutchable from Kleenex ORG.
Speaker 44220.56s - 4225.44s
But good round from T.J. and the Carolina guys, obviously, T.J. making a play through Green, get that first blood.
Speaker 04225.86s - 4226.72s
Good place from him.
Speaker 44227.24s - 4230.28s
And then we get to, it was a very comfortable defense.
Speaker 24230.4s - 4232.5s
Fellow holds bridge on the four or five round,
Speaker 44232.58s - 4234.14s
and they kind of just waltz out and die.
Speaker 54234.5s - 4235.72s
And then we go into the round 11.
Speaker 04236.32s - 4239.36s
And in the round 11, look at what Carolina does on the round 11 here.
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I love this play.
Speaker 64240.58s - 4242.14s
They hit through mid.
Speaker 54242.48s - 4244.32s
They send one guy, chicken coop side.
Speaker 64245.22s - 4246.28s
They send three guys mid.
Speaker 54246.36s - 4247.26s
By the way, Scrap PERSON!
Speaker 64248.24s - 4250.2s
Scrappy, if you're watching, stop.
Speaker 54250.32s - 4252.12s
Brother, stop going up there, bro.
Speaker 04252.26s - 4254.26s
You've been going up there for fucking months.
Speaker 24254.92s - 4256.02s
They're reading it now, bro.
Speaker 64256.12s - 4257.16s
They know you go up there.
Speaker 24257.36s - 4258.34s
Everybody knows you go up there.
Speaker 64258.74s - 4264s
Bro, am I the only one who see Scrap PERSON go to the same spot every fucking time?
Speaker 24264.5s - 4265.9s
That's what I was bishing about, too, bro. He's got one route. He's got one route. He's got one route. And then they know he's go to the same spot every fucking time. That's what I was bitching about too, bro.
Speaker 64265.9s - 4267.76s
Top yellow. He's got one route on defense.
Speaker 54268.06s - 4271.56s
Bro, one route. He's got one route. And then they know he's there, so they tag him up.
Speaker 64271.96s - 4276.22s
Gwyn makes a play through middle. He's able to find one, or sorry, T.J. PERSON was able to find one.
Speaker 04276.4s - 4280.98s
Gwyn push some shots down. I think somebody from, yep, somebody, Tom Boy from Toronto GPE slides
Speaker 64280.98s - 4285.26s
in. Clay PERSON so gets to trade. Now it's a 3V2 situation. Love the plant here from Clay as well.
Speaker 04285.74s - 4289.48s
Gets that bomb down. Clay PERSON, he's able to get out, but he does get taken down here,
Speaker 64289.54s - 4291.72s
if I remember correctly. Yep, he throws a trophy. He dies.
Speaker 04291.8s - 4293.64s
Now it's a 2v2 situation. Bomb down.
Speaker 34294.06s - 4297.72s
All Carolina ORG need to do now is play their time. Check the bomb, and they're good.
Speaker 04297.8s - 4328.24s
That's what Tyler does. Tyler Fellow. They get eyes on that shit in Carolina ORG. They make the comeback here against Toronto Ultra PRODUCT. By the way, this was the 2-5 comeback that I was talking about before. Remember before I said the 2-5 comeback? It was this map right here.This is what I was talking about. So I'm getting my maps confused. But great plays here coming in from Carolina ORG to stay composed and take this search. Don't know what happened to Toronto GPE here. They kind of collapsed. I ain't going to lie.But good place from Toronto GPE. Any final thoughts from Carolina ORG? Any final thoughts on the map, too, guys. I ain't going to lie. But good place from Toronto. Any final thoughts from Carolina? Any final thoughts on the map, too, guys? I mean, bro.
Speaker 44328.24s - 4328.26s
I mean, bro.
Speaker 64328.42s - 4329.28s
Don't extend the series for no reason, bro.
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Bro. Toronto GPE, this is,
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listen, this is their Achilles' heel, search.
Speaker 44334.76s - 4347.6s
You look at, maybe they got some maps. They play well against phasing and optic and respawns. They're not going to be either one of those teams right now who are the top two teams. They cannot take searches. They got to improve on this game mode.Today was not a step forward.
Speaker 04348.28s - 4378.04s
No, definitely not. And then we move on and we go over to the Karachi GPE control. This is the first round. This is the one-one round. Now, right here, I don't know what you guys think. I think Carolina ORG was kind of turtling.I felt like I can even rewind it a little bit. I feel like there is opportunities when they were getting kills to maybe get out of here and make a play. Like starts with TJ PERSON. He went to a big fight over here by Red PERSON. He gets traded out.I kind of felt like this was about a collapse for Carolina because they were just all turtle and hill.
Speaker 74378.24s - 4383.78s
And if one wave, if one wave goes down here, it's overweight. What happened, Chris PERSON? What was Quinn PERSON doing, dude?
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He turned around. You'd see him. He was on that curve. Look, he just... I don't know. He just wiggles away.
Speaker 74390.1s - 4392s
I don't know what he's doing. I really have no idea.
Speaker 04392.36s - 4395.12s
I don't know. What is he doing? He gets shown in the back.
Speaker 74395.64s - 4399.46s
I didn't like the turtle setup. I mean, as you're getting kills, I think they need to keep
Speaker 04399.46s - 4420.24s
challenging. Right here, two dead, too. They end up getting two-piece tiered and then T. T.J. tries to get on the point. They seemed a little bit turtled. I don't know if they had an opportunity to push out in this round, but in the moment, it felt like they were turtling a little bit. I don't know what you guys think about it.I'll rewind it a little bit, just so you could kind of see how it ended up getting to this point. But what were you guys' thoughts? You think Carolina ORG could have done anything there to stop to save, the same push?
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Not really. Like, it just, not really. It just, they had to win another way if they wanted to get, like, substantial map control. T. T. just needed to do a better job of, I think T's just needed to do a better job of playing his life when he got that killed top red.Like, instead of, like, pushing into the unknown, I would have much rather him sit, like, on the balcony where he was. And he just got that kill and just play a safer angle because he kind of just sprints out into the unknown, the top red hallway and just gets instantrated rather than just, like like literally staying still in the same spot, waiting for more players to come to his way.
Speaker 04447.82s - 4452.22s
But right here, Chris, right, two dead for Carolina ORG, okay? They try and push the points too dead.
Speaker 84452.82s - 4455.8s
They know one guys, they know what, yeah, I rewinded it back a little bit more.
Speaker 04456.6s - 4466.92s
They get, right here, bro, like, don't you think the two guys that just got these two kills, she just hit back alley and like chalice? Like, Chow Red, chowlet. You have two dead? I would have, somebody should chowl it? Like, Chow Red, Chalit. You have two dead? I would have, somebody should chowl it.
Speaker 84467.36s - 4468.42s
Well, they're looking at number eight.
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It's three dead right now. There's three dead. And then they kind of just, like, hover around the point. They don't really go anywhere. Instead of, like, pushing out red, like, T.J. PERSON plays through mid. He gets a good win here.I would like to see T.J. PERSON stay alive. But then he kind of falls.
Speaker 84482.52s - 4483.7s
I mean, they played a little.
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The problem is, though, Tom PERSON, the problem is, is that like, whenever you,
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yeah, exactly, if they die in that scenario, even if the trades, even if the trades go
Speaker 04493.64s - 4497.86s
one for one, Toronto GPE is just in the favorable position because their reinforcements are
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going to get their way easier.
Speaker 04499.02s - 4499.26s
Yeah.
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So, like, you, you almost have to, like, overwhelmingly win, like, a trade scenario on this
Speaker 84504.1s - 4509.36s
red side of the map, like, at least a two for one type scenario, or otherwise, you're going to get pushed back, like, overwhelmingly win, like, a trade scenario on this red side of the map, like, at least a two-for-one type scenario. Otherwise, you're going to get pushed back, like, every time.
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My thought process, Chris PERSON, is every time you get kills, like, let's progress here. Because if we're not, they're just going to spawn close red, and it's just, it's chopped. Like, I felt like they had an opportunity to maybe make a play. But, you know, it is hindsight. I mean, looking back at it, like, in the moment, they probably didn't think they had the timing and they didn't want to die there. So I do see what you're saying, Chris PERSON, because they could die.Like, if who's number two, fellow pushes out and dies, it's pretty much tough.
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If they don't go two for one and they go one for one, it's good, like, they're fucked. Like, because of the reinforcements that they're going to get. So, I mean, it's just too risky. They have to get, like, a clean wave right around the hill, which is essentially what they're waiting for. Um, and then they don't and then they lose.
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Then right here. Oh, go ahead. Pat. What's up, bro? I was going to say paradox PERSON tweeted it was a
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stun grenade. So what we saw in Clay PERSON's screen was like the, the VFX explosion of a stun grenade
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and it didn't last long. And when they switched to scrappy, that's why it was gone. But he has like
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a freeze frame of scrappy screen and you can see the stunting. That makes sense. That doesn't make sense.
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I didn't realize how much smoking out of a stonker name.
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He said it to the paradox.
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Let me get it to the one two round.
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Now, love the play from Gwyn PERSON here. Clay is able to get three kills. He pops a three piece on the eight point. Gwyn PERSON knows that these guys are coming off spawn.
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He gets the kills. I love what he does after. He pushes through it because what this does is that blocks his backspawn here. That's going to give Toronto Alter ORG those deep spons.
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The white van spawn.
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Now, I think Gwynn PERSON wanted to push towards B here, but because his teammates died, he was like, fuck, and it ended up turning around and trying to play kills. He ends up dying here as well. But what do you got? Do you think Gwyn PERSON should have went the point there?We were talking about it during the Watts PERSON party.
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No, he would have just got killed by six.
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It's obviously hindsight. He wouldn't have known that. But see, like, this is why I respect the fuck out of Gwynn PERSON in, like, his game. Because he has the knowledge in his brain to be able to make a decision like that, knowing his teammates aren't winning the trades. So whatever he does, he just needs to get kills.Like, if his teammates were getting kills and they got the Red Spawn PRODUCT, he 100% jumps over dumpster and runs to the point to find them. But the split second that they die, he turns for spawners to bail himself out. Fucking, that's good on-the-flight decision-maker right there. Yeah, no, I love the play. I love that.He realized where they were spawning, got the kills, blocked the spawn. I mean, it was just, it was perfect, like how he was sending it all up. And then we're like, holy shit, this is all over. But then we'll 1.5 seconds up on the clock, Carolina ORG somehow just run through red and we're able to get on this point.Got really mixedy towards the end here, but Toronto Ultra PRODUCT were able to break through this here at the end. I don't know if there's anything from the Carolina ORG side that you guys see that made, because I almost feel like they should have had this here.
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I think Toby just gets a huge two-piece to win.
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There's got a good tax. The Toronto GPE is...
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He just gets gunned out the window.
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Yeah, that was good plays. They just kept throwing tax, I think. They didn't have enough trophies to stop the multiple pushes coming in from Toronto GPE. It's weird because once you get that first wave, they spawned right there, back alley, anyway. So they just climb the dumpster, throw out or shit.Even if you have trophies and kill them, they come off spawn and throw their shit again. And your trophies go to shit. So good plays. Great tack usage from Toronto Ultra PRODUCT. Great break. Could have got a little scary there if we went into it over time,but Toronto GPE ended up getting a dub. Any thoughts there on the control guys? Nope. And then we get into the last map. This is the Rio Harpoint FAC. We hop in first to the P4 here.This was just a really, really good play from Carolina ORG. A good break here. This is one of those situations, again, where I felt like boxes was just, like, not being looked at. Like, they're coming off old. It started with scrap. He wins the fight boxes, but then he just runs out like a dumbass.And then they gave it up. Like, Carolina ORG waltzes through boxes. Nobody's even looking at it.
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Boom, three dead. There they go.
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And Carolina ORG were able to build their lead here. Granted, they don't hold on to it. But it was a really good break from Carolina ORG. I thought that was a little bit of a mistake there from Toronto GPE. What do you guys think? Yep.
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Boxes is the most important part there.
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He needs to hold it. Yeah, especially on the transition.
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Thanks, genius, dumb fuck.
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Scrap, you're welcome. Scrap! It's a terrible
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fucking way. It's terrible.
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Come on the show and tell us how you gave up boxes.
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I mean, scrap to you, it's a basic play.
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Oh, he'll tell you, he'll tell you he's a moron.
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You know what I mean? You made a dumb play. You know? But, hey, our co-op FIFA ORG games have been's a moron. You know what I mean? You made a dumb play, you know?
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But, hey, our co-op FIFA ORG games have been absolutely
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phenomenal, though.
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You know what I mean?
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We're on the field as I'm talking about.
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But right here, hold boxes. Definitely think a lot of teams, bro. They don't hold boxes. So bad play there from scrap ends up costing them that hill. Way to go. Then we go over to the next one.This is, uh, same thing. It's a Rio PRODUCT. I'm up the quality for you guys. You guys don't want to watch shit quality. We go into the second P3 here, and this is a great break from Toronto GPE. This is where things collapse for Carolina ORG.Ultra PRODUCT just kept breaking and breaking and breaking. Look at what happens here. It starts with T.J. He's going to make a plate through the left side of the map. I actually don't mind the play from T. But it starts with Scrappy PERSON.He somehow waltzes through the middle of the hill and finds two. He shits on Clay PERSON, it looks like. He's able to find another one on the Talafellow FAC. That's going to open things up. And just like that, T.J. PERSON is the last one in this hard point. The spawns flip.And Toronto Ultra PRODUCT get a perfect break there.
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I mean, you can't get any more.
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Ravens ORG just trolled because, like, whenever you're holding for it. Ravens just trolled because like whenever you're
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holding this hill, if you're going to play like
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aggressively on the stairs, unless you have a guy like supporting you, which they didn't, he just working his way up there. The guy that's playing like on those stairs instead of playing Eski PERSON, he needs to play the Zyg ones. Most of the time people aren't going to run downescalators because they're scared of getting Hegwitch PRODUCT. It's a pretty open lane. And that just allowed Scrappy PERSON to kind of blindside the, like, like the guy on the escalator and just hit it.
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Yeah, no, 100%. I think Scrappy getting that two-piece before he dies, it gives him that back spawn. Because if Scrappy PERSON doesn't get a kill there, I think Carolina ORG might spawned back.
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Hold on. What was he looking at when Scrap PERSON came around the corner?
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I don't know. I think he was laying down just looking up. Like Clay PERSON? You're talking about Clay PERSON? Yeah. Clay PERSON was just low Eski, just looking up. Like Clay, you're talking about Clay? Yeah.
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Clay PERSON was just low Esky, just looking up, like up the esky, just playing like an off angle.
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And Scrapp PERSON just...
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That's fucking trolling.
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Yeah, Scrapp PERSON just comes in, wins the fight.
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Number two gets caught sprinting.
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I think Scrap PERSON.
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He runs in there.
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He baits, and then the rest of his squad comes in, and they're able to break this.
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It's just a flawless break from Toronto GPE.
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And if you're Carolina ORG, definitely got to work on a better setup there because they just kind of get sold out. Clay PERSON was by himself on time. Nobody was holding mid.
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And it was, unless you guys saw anything else, there anything else you saw from Carolina that they probably should have done there in that play?
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Probably trade scrap.
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Yeah, well, they got shit on.
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Probably play a confident angle
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and not lay down on the fucking escalators.
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Yeah, and that's pretty much where Toronto GPE start to bring this one back. Now we go towards the end of the game. We go over to the P5. And again, look at how I'm going to pause it right here. Carolina's in this P5 PRODUCT. They early rotate.They have a setup. It's Clay PERSON who gets blooded here again on the rotation. He ends up throwing a little bit too wide of a shimmy there. And scrap with that angle is able to find another entry. Kleenex ORG slides in. It's so easy for them to break.It's just so easy. They broke it. They made it look like Carolina ORG wasn't even shooting. What do you guys think about Carolina ORG set up there? Because it shouldn't be that easy.
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Hey, hold on. Before that, where was the rest of the squadron? Where?
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What's number four looking at over there? Wait, hold on.
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What was number four? What did number four do a squad?
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He's looking at the late flank.
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He's looking at the late flank. Oh, brother. He is on the fucking hill still. Nah, he's just on. He's on Mars LOC.
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He's got to be on Mars LOC, bro.
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He thinks, he thought number eight was probably bumping number six off hill and there's a chance they could pinch, but like. But why watch pinch from all the way back
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there? Like, get closer. That way you can help. Like, he's so far away. I mean, listen, it doesn't help in my personal opinion. The guy's on hill, especially Clay PERSON stairs. Clay can't throw Clay PERSON needs to say a lot. They're. They're just overthinking it, bro.
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First of all, if he spawns right there,
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he knows that no one's pushed through already.
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There's no threat for him to be, like,
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someone in his face already if he spawns, like, in the alley right there. This is a problem with just cod players, too.
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Like, a lot of pros will make the same challenge.
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Take back my win.
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There's a lot of times where people are just playing for everything, bro.
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You got to chalk up, like, certain routes and angles and just, if a guy hits it,
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like, you just got to pray you get the better timing on it later in the play.
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Like, you can't play for everything.
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Otherwise, you just have no strength anywhere.
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You're just so spread that, like, if Toronto GPE stacks a lane, you're chocked unless
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your teammates' lily clutch.
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Watching this back, like, Carolina ORG could have won this map. They were out rotating Toronto GPE. They were kind of out playing them. It almost seemed like they were more ahead of the game than Toronto GPE was. It's just, Toronto GPE did what they do best and use their talent to break somebody's hills.
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Carolina ORG also can't hold a fucking hell.
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Right, so I'm saying. They can't hold fucking hills. I don't know. Bro, they've been had this problem, Ben PERSON. They can't hold a fucking hill. I don't know why.
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They have a hard. Just the same almost their problem to L.A.G ORG does. They have a hard time reading pressure and making proactive plays and getting lost on the map when the opportunity to do so and take your space. They just can't. Against a team like Toronto GPE, you get punished.Yeah.
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They're too good at playing off information and overloading and getting the trades.
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I mean, how would you fix that problem?
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Like, if you were a coach, Coms, 100%.
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Bombs and reps.
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Coms, reps, all that shit.
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And then we could go to the third P1,
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to the third P2. There was some weird spawns coming in here towards the end here. It was going from P1 to P2. See if I could find it here. So let's play it from here.So there's seven seconds left on the P1 Hill FAC. You can see Clay PERSON. He wins a fighter on the back. These spawns are so weird to me.
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You're a full screen, Tom PERSON? Yeah, my bad. I'm going to full screen here. So let's see what happens here. Clay PERSON, he makes a play. He's pushing down left.
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He wins a gunfight. That's too dead. Clay PERSON's pushing through. I feel like the Carolina player should spawn where number six spawned.
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This game is horrible, bro.
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I'm sorry. Envoy PRODUCT should spawn, or, sorry, Fetlo should spawn where Envoy spawned, and Envoy should spawn where Fello PRODUCT spawned here.
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Or number six should have spawned where number five is, because that's actually a spawn. Like, that's literally a spawn for that hill.
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Clay PERSON lost fucking composure right there.
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Bro, like, there's two places that that, that player could have spawned that made more sense. He could have spawned where number five is, because that's a spawn for that hill. Play lost fucking composure right there. Bro. Like there's two places that that player could have spawned that made more sense. He could have spawned where number five is because that's a spawn. Or he could have spawned parallel to number two. Like in a hypothetical world.
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Like he could also spawn parallel.
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But no, you just spawn right behind Clay PERSON.
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Yeah.
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See, look at number three.
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Look at that's one other place that he could have spawned right there.
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And then he could also spawned that back alley number five there's it just makes so fucking sense dude
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yeah that's just that's end of the hill cheese that number two fellow gets a kill in the back
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and number six um boy he spawns on a close pinch like he doesn't spawn out like right like right here
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right here look at how it's it okay Dylan PERSON's dead here i'm always dead he's just spawned the fuck
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out bro top left. Top left corner.
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Top left corner up here.
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He should be up in it.
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Look at where he spawns.
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He spawns on the pinch, literally.
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But that is a common spawn.
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That is a common spawning.
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I'm not defending.
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Wait, actually, actually, actually, no, no, no.
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Actually, that's kind of normal just because those are the, those are the hills.
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Those are the hills.
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If you are on both sides
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they're spawning in boxes
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yeah yeah that's me really every time
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no no I said that too
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that is a spawn it happens a lot
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but it's the shit spawn it's like the most
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readable spawn actually
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it's your point Tom
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is we just don't have the trearchesque
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like you spawn people deep diagonal
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spawns that like we know from past
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pods and you gotta adapt to
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like the weird emergency spawns in this game
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so yeah it's annoying you got to be aware
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that way. Bro whatever happened to fuck you
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spawns where it's like you just like pinch the hill
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and like got kills and they're spawning in
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fucking gnar and now it's just like
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that's cold war bro we haven't had some cold
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and now there's no more fuck you
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spons anymore it's just like fuck me spawns
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instead hopefully try our fucking comes through next year bro because no they won't they won't more fuck you spons anymore. It's just like fuck me spons instead. Hopefully Trayor fucking comes through next year, well.
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No, they won't.
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They won't because fuck you spons are punishing.
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I like I just started this random term.
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We're just continuing the usage of it.
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It's what we called the spawn out, right?
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The super mega spawn out.
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They're punishing.
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And so to casual players, it's very punishing because you got to think in a casual
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environment, people aren't playing for these setups.
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But the spons can still occur the same way, right? If like, if it happened to, in a casual environment, people aren't playing for these setups, but the spawns can still occur the same way, right?
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If it happened to happen in a casual game.
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So deep spawns, less engagements will never happen.
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It just won't.
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I think that that era is done.
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I mean, we've seen it with skill-based matchmaking.
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We're in an era of Call of Duty PRODUCT as a whole
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where it caters to a very different player than it used to.
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It's just very simple. I don't think we'll ever see those games again that we're expecting to see.
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No one wants to sprint for 10 seconds.
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Don't say that, Slay it, please.
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I'm down to sprint for 10 seconds.
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No one wants to do that.
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All right, let's move on.
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TikTok ORG bring. Give me back in the dark.
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Any more thoughts, guys. Nope.
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Caroline PERSON's thing. Toronto GPE. Good.
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All righty, let's move on to the last series of the day.
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We have the Minnesota Rocker going up against the Los Angeles Thieves ORG. L.A. They go up 2 in a series. It's a masterclass. They beat them by over 100 points in a hard point, 6-2 at ES&D. And it absolutely collapses for the Los Angeles Thieves in the next three maps.They get reversed. Let them. Scroll down. Take a look here at the stat sheet. Sam PERSON, these are your guys. This your team what the fuck happened listen i literally i said it actually
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24 hours ago i said they the game five clutch is nice the ice is fantastic but eventually the ice will melt and 24 hours later the ice caps melted dude that's all it was cramp we'll get
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to the clip cramped chowled out of A-point on invasion control
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to win the game, and we lost a series.
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Yep, that was tough. That was
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very tough. I'm not going to lie.
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I do have that clip pulled up. Chris PERSON,
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what did you think about the series?
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Yeah, barring a couple chokes, you know, a couple
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random plays. I think Dan Gosey PERSON had a
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very lackluster series for
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how he's played, and he's been
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traditionally their best player, if not their most consistent player and he just didn't have the best one. So he still had the most damage, but he just didn't like finish his kill. So he was probably having a rough one. Same with nasty. He didn't, he didn't play.
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He's got the MCW ORG, bro.
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No one's dying.
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You know what I'm saying? Two back-to-back superstar performances out of Stanley PERSON though.
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He's obviously not a superstar, but he's had two.
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Oh, Stanney PERSON was unbelievable. He was talking to there for sure. He was fucking. He's obviously not a superstar, but he's had two. Stany PERSON was unbelievable. He was talking to there for sure. He was fucking, he was world star.
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He must have had like four or five triple kills.
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Bro, I'm gonna go ahead and say this again.
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Rastor change is still dog shit.
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I'm standing on business.
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The roster change, the roster change overall,
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I think, I think vivid got done dirty.
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But regardless,
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Stanty PERSON is rising up to the occasion in terms of his own performances.
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The other side of the roster change is what we really got to talk about,
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because I think people were hyped to see, you know, Pierce PERSON joined the roster.
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And granted they won this series and not all hope is lost.
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Again, he still has technically less damage than Lamar PERSON,
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and Lamar PERSON's already been harped on for being slower and relatively the same number of engagements.
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So like, bro, this team lives and dies on their ARs.
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They need to improve.
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They need to speed it up as a team because they're essentially
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relatively the same players. And to a degree you can even argue that Big P at times is slower than Lamar PERSON. And I don't know if it's a good thing. So good series that's Sandy PERSON, but I'm still waiting to see gunless and accuracy dynamic
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improve Eli PERSON needs help and they need to get more killed it they need to get more
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can I I just ask this is for all of us can we just stop talking about the roster
Speaker 55437.86s - 5453.76s
I feel like it's every episode it's the same thing we all in their agreements we all have the same opinion this roster sucks sucks. This roster change sucked. Just get it out. So we never have to bring it up again. Because every time we watch them play, I feel like we're going to say the exact same thing. About the team.
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I mean, yeah. I mean, it's like
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this, this, this roster just was bad to be formed.
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I mean, but I will.
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They won the series today, Pat PERSON.
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They won the series.
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I will give them credit.
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You lost this shit.
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Yeah, giving away into this one, and they took advantage of it.
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And to Sam's point, eventually thieves are going to lose one of these game fives,
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and they couldn't close out a series.
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Like, if you're thieves, it happening in its phase at the major,
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like they got to find a way to be able to ice up and win these 303-1,
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when the opportunity is there, and said they gave minutes out of 10 points that they probably shouldn't have had today.
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Mm-hmm. And then on the other side for thieves, I think, I think Sam PERSON's right. I think for the most part, that's probably a series. They should win there, and they kind of threw it away. So they're probably kicking themselves for that one. But any final thoughts before we head into the clips, guys?
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If you notice, if you noticed, though, they lost map four, so they lost the series.
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Yeah, Pat was saying that, uh, if you remember from yesterday, Tom PERSON, yeah.
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Yeah, Ben was saying that that's cap, Pat PERSON.
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I don't know what Ben PERSON was talking about.
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I mean, I think Tom PERSON, me and you, we talked about this. We agree. And they lose map four, you know, what happens.
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Yeah, I don't know what Ben PERSON's talking about.
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Yeah.
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I mean, gaslit again.
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I don't know what Ben PERSON was on.
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I mean, fucking gas.
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Let's get into the clip, Tom. Yeah, let's up into the clip to see what's going on there. Oh, I don't even know what gaslighting. I don't know what Ben PERSON was on. I mean, fucking gaslit. Just get into the clip.
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Yeah, let's up into the clip.
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I don't know what I've been talking about it.
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I don't even know what gaslighting is.
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All right, so first play.
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Now, you guys let me know that this is a nitpick.
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As a sub player, I thought Stanty PERSON should have pinched here.
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So I'm going to play this out.
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Boom, Stanie ORG's sponsor. So right here, I feel like you know all three of your teammates are together and they're pushing through the back of the map. Standy PERSON's kind of out of the play here. Don't you think Stanley PERSON should late pinch front here?
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He should go low. He should play for lower and like try to like get some attention there or maybe see if he can get through. Maybe even
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hit top bar and try to work the railing and play
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for the late kill. I would have
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100% have 1 to give himself option. I would 100%
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I would have I would have probably hit lower.
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Like my entire team is on the left. Look what he does. Look what he does. He ends up going left. He goes all the way around.
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And instead of him pinching this out, he probably would have killed P4 or that number
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or two, he probably would have killed him.
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And then it ends up not working. They try and play around the back. They kind of flood over this way. And you know, LAT ORG, it makes it easy for LAT's because they just, they know everybody's here. Nobody's pinching. Nobody's taking any routes.
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By hitting those pinches and hitting those lanes out, that's what makes it harder for the other team.
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Yeah, but also, bro, we're double hitting those stairs.
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If you're breaking this hill from the back, one person goes to those stairs and just like
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deters the guy from sitting behind the bar
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and just scares them. And he just plays this head glitch and plays his timing as one, whatever.
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They should double hit the back. Yeah. What? We're running up. Nah.
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We're letting ourselves, we talked about this more.
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This is more, I think, of an issue in the last
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game, but it is in this situation. We talked about funneling.
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Like, you do not want to get funneled
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and not, and make the other team know where you're coming from and get pre-ended to your point, Chris PERSON, and you slide a lot like that. There's too many angles you got to check and too many. Yeah, exactly. That guy is really,he's a distraction. Whoever plays the stairs is just stopping them from being on the back side of the bar, right, gets rid of that heckwich, and he's a distraction. And they just hit the back and then they collapse on the front side at the time. That guy comes out late unless he gets engaged and dies or wins the gunfight.
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And what happens here is now because that happened, thieves get that backspon and then they
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chain this. This chain is really weird. This is really, really important rotation because this is where teams can really get a lot of time.
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Because Minnesota ORG had a really good start. And LA Thieves were able to just hold a P3, chain the P4 PRODUCT because they they had those back spawns, and they were able to just bring it right back and take a lead. So really good plays coming in from the LA Thieves ORG. They were able to chain a couple of hills together. I thought Standy PERSON could have maybe pinched there. I think him pitching there, yeah, him pinching any kills that his teammates get, pushing the back.
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They should theoretically. I mean, I don't know with this game, but theoretically, they should spawn behind standing.
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They will 100% fall behind standing and there's old, because there's only one back spawn. So there's not like multiple like weird spawns back there.
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It's one.
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That map actually outside of, um, I think P1 and P5 PRODUCT have the worst possible spawns locations.
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Because there's like four spawnsons on either side of the hill.
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But outside of that time, it's pretty simple for the others. And we get to the next clip. Love the play from Joe PERSON to seeves here. P1, Hart Point, and Joe PERSON's already playing towards that P2 area with 20 seconds left on the clock. Look at the mini-map.Look how he gets here early and how they cut the map. Like, Thieves ORG do a really good job here, chaining these hills together. You can already see people from Minnesota ORG starting to take some routes because they're starting to realize that they're in a funnel. But I love the place from Joe PERSON.He gets pushed up middle, able to find a couple kills. They hold the last 20 seconds. Then he rotates over to P2. He's able to find more kills. When he rotates there, he's sitting on a six spree. And you can see how L.A. GPE Thieves,they were just able to funnel them. Crabb. He turns and on a six spree and you can see how la thieves they were just able to funnel them cramp PERSON he turns and burns lamar there and you can see minnesota slowly just getting blendered here love the train there from p1 to p2 i thought
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joe desks made a great play there yeah so shout out to joe la thieves um making the first map look easy
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then we get into uh the end of the map and this was just a great P3 break from LA Thieves ORG. I don't know if there's anything you guys see here from Minnesota if they're able to hold this, but L.A. GPE do have the streak here. So, unfortunately, for Minnesota ORG, Joe PERSON to seize drops the streak on their heads.They get all the info. Linz and Lamar PERSON are forced to run inside. Joe PERSON gets the streak, and bada bim, bada boom. That was clinical from the L.A.T. I didn't think there was much Minnesota ORG could have done there gets the streak and Bada bim, bada boom, that was clinical from the LATs. I didn't think there was much Minnesota ORG could have done therebecause the street
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comes down
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other than maybe like not being so far pushed up because Lenz PERSON is literally pushed up so deep front Lamar PERSON was kind of screwedhe couldn't really do anything but yeah it was a good break from LA
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I thought they didn't do a job with it being a new map a lot of people kind of are still struggling with like where to play, like how to use a streak, how to avoid streaks. The only place that is really safe from streaks here on this map is technically inside Burger, kind of, and then underneath P3 PRODUCT where they were. So if they, you know, if they knew he had a streak, they probably should have played tighter and played to run underneath this hill whenever the streak popped.
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But they were kind of pushed up. Maybe they just didn't know he had a streak. I don't know. Yeah. I mean, they should have played tighter and played to run underneath this hill whenever the streak popped. But they were kind of pushed up. Maybe they just didn't know he had a streak. I don't know. Yeah. I mean, they should have known. Jody Seas PERSON was really shitting on them.Somebody's got to be like, yeah, this guy's like on a crazy spreece. They got a streak.
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But, yeah, I don't know. But it's great first map from LA Thieves ORG. They made it look easy. We were like, holy shit, rock her ass. What's going on?
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Then we go to the next map. We're going to start things off in the zero-zero round. Sam PERSON, you'll love this. I'm going to pull this up for you. Joe Deceives, somehow, with the rival nine, is able to win a fight down B Street FAC.
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Somehow, that's a routine one.
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I mean, Sam PERSON, realistically, this fight here, what do you want? MCW a rival.
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It was an insane shot from Joe PERSON.
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They show the replay at the end, but I mean, I agree. The rival is fucking hella good. And then I love to play Joe PERSON sees him deep street here, and he's able to dive across, and he pretty much just reads Stanley PERSON. He reads that pressure. He knows Stanie ORG's probably going to be pushing down towards B.Gets the clutch. That's three on the round from Joe to Cives ORG to start things off.
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Phenomenal first round. Actually, let me show you guys the replay. I think they showed a replay here on his kill here at the end round. But they showed a replay, right, of his kill? Unless I'm tripping. And that kill B. 3, he fucking zapped the fuck out of him.Let me see if they show it real quick. If not. Joe PERSON's also teasing. He's feeling himself. He's fucking cheesing here. Dan Gosey PERSON probably took a couple rips for this map.Look at these guy. Fucking animal. Dan Gosey PERSON has been phenomenal for these guys, by the way. I thought they showed the fucking long shots from...
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They might show it after the map. They might show after the map.
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Okay. There was some crazy long shots there. But let's move on. Then we get into the 2-1 round. This is where Lynn PERSON's blacked out, and we were so confused. Let's take a look here.So, Joe, it's a 3V-3 situation. Lins PERSON is running underground and doesn't even acknowledge Blue PERSON. And then he just dies. And I was like, Blue. Like, Blue is like, there's always people in blue. Like, you, Blue is like one of the main spots on a map. Maybe a black out there? What do you guys think? Yeah, no shoulder, no nothing, bro spots on the map. Maybe a black out there? What do you guys think?
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Yeah, no shoulder, no nothing, bro.
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No, nothing. I don't know what happened there. He's just kind of sprinted and he just, I don't know.
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Classic case of the sprints.
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And then Joe PERSON receives. I mean, what else can you say here? Phenomenal plays from Joe PERSON. He's able to get some, put some nice shots there into Lamar PERSON, wins the fight. And then I love how thieves end up closing the round out. Instead of one guy just running at this guy, standing bottom blue, they use their teamworkand they push them out together. Fantastic plays there. A little bit of a black out there from Lins PERSON, in my opinion. Let me go to the 5-2 round. This is where they were able to close it out. Now, in this round, we saw a similar play yesterday.I wanted to pull this up. I know they're blowing them out and it's like whatever, but Minnesota Rocker ORG, they give up the B plant again. I don't know. We saw a team do this yesterday. I don't like this, bro. I don't like just giving people free plants like this. They're probably playing for tap, maybe retake with tax or something. Like maybe they, maybe they have a strategy on how they want to retake it, but I'm fucking sick of it, bro. I'm sick of it too.
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Thieves just throws a trophy down, plants so on. Like, bro, on offense,
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you shouldn't be able to just walk onto a bomb site, throw a trophy, and plan it like that,
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especially on this map. I think people are just scared of getting blown up on this map,
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whether it's to the propane or grenades. Like, I'm curious, maybe they just didn't have trophies, so they didn't want to, like,
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apply some map pressure, but, like, my God, we're giving up both sides of the fucking map. We have zero pressure. As soon as the bomb goes down, you're retaking out of your fucking base. You lost.You lost the fucking round. Yeah, agreed.
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And then we get into the control, and this is where things really start hitting the hay.
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So take a look at that mini map here.
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And this is the 2-2 row. We're going to go straight to the overtime. It's an invasion control, four defenses in a row. Nobody was able to get that eight point. Krempe Chow PERSON's out the point here. You can see that the press just coming from Lamar PERSON,during the watch party, we're all like, oh, man, nobody's watching the street. Don't let Lamar PERSON make a play. Don't let him get on there. And they find out that Lamar PERSON's there, and Kremp PERSON just kind of runs at him.
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Wait, number one shot at him.
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Yeah, no, he knew he was there. They knew he was there.
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Oh, hell no.
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They knew he was there, but K hell no. They knew he was there. But Cremshaw PERSON just stayed on the point and just hell, just wait. He can't die there on the point because what happens is three go dead. Last guy up is going to be Dan PERSON. He's kind of out of the play here. They also know he's here.And unfortunately for them, it gets even crazier here towards the end.
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Lynn PERSON's blacked out.
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Dan gets in. He's able to find one. And then he here towards the end. Linz blacked out. Danz PERSON gets in. He's able to find one. And then he gets on the point. And then Big Pete finds one. Everybody's going down. Multiple trades going down.And then, yeah, Linz gets a two piece. Great two piece from him. But then Linz PERSON dies at a point here. This is insane. He dies at a point. I'm like, holy shit.LADs still have a chance. Lamar PERSON able to slide on in.
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This is why I fucking hate control,, because the spawns are just inconsistent. Like, Linz PERSON is assuming nobody's blue or nobody's gas, so they're going to spawn gas. Nope, they spawned blue. They shot him in the side. Like he's looking at that hop-up wall thinking they're spawning gas.
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Yeah, that was, it definitely looked a little trolley in the moment. We were all screaming and then they ended up winning the map anyway, so it wasn't too big of a deal. That's kind of what a reverse sweep starts. It starts there. It starts with Minnesota ORG. They're able to win the offense on control, and that's usually how it goes.They gain that momentum.
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And then we get into.
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The last two matches are actually non-competitive.
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Yeah.
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They got slammed. I wanted to talk about one streak here from Stanley PERSON. Do you like Stanley streaking when number five server, number six is still swimming out of the play? And Stanney PERSON's kind of out of the play here.
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Do you think Stanis should get pushed up a little bit more before he streaks?
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I think he can even more map control.
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There's no threat on any of the players right now on Minnesota ORG.
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Like they could actually put their controllers down for the next five, seven seconds,
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let Eli PERSON get like mid-map at least before he calls the street.
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Yeah, but that's the thing, though.
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That's a lot of time wasted.
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Like, it gives, like, thieves way more of opportunity to kind of feel out the pressure.
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That's coming and maybe make plays on them.
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I mean, I don't mind the streak because his entire team was in positions to capitalize off it.
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They just did not.
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Yeah.
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That's, I just wanted to show that because I didn't know if you guys liked the streak or not,
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because they ended up blowing the streak and they got nothing out of it.
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Standy PERSON was playing great, but I thought the streak used.
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Don't worry, they'll spawn in the back behind him.
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Yeah, they'll get some random spawn that blesses him. We got to listen in here. This is the first listening we're going to listen to. I thought this one was hilarious because you could just hear Big P PRODUCT in the background, just so monotoned. I don't even know how to describe it.He sounded like he was bored in the middle of his map and they were frying.
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So let's tune in to listening with the Minnesota Rocker. Tunnel tunnel tunnel dead one no I'm gonna dead I'm gonna hit hit hit hit no Nile LOC dead dead
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I have right guys
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I have right
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Goatee Goatee
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Gop on me
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Goatee
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Moe last week on you
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Goatee still top
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I know
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He's top top two
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He's one shot one shot all one
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In midle
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There's three mid-air
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There's three mid-air
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There's one down
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One one down
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One cat room
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Cat room in the rest in the back
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Player lights Cat room cramp dead One one Last time last time Last the rest of the back player lights
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Cat room crept in them dead
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Lai one last time, last time
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Fucked, fuck it, fuck it, he's on the fourth one
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P, Piquet PERSON, last two
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I'm gonna get on the stage, I'm gonna keep on the stage
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I'm gonna get up.
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I'm gonna get up, I'm gonna take
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One, me, me, me, me, me, me,
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one could be side door, bro.
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I'm gonna jump up, jump up,
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side or ghost, you might be chow, He's on there, he's on there, he's on there, He's on there, a, I'm blocking, you about me? door, bro. I'm looking side. I'm going to jump up, jump up. Side or go see. He might be chow-all-all-all-all-all.
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He's a little there.
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You're not.
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You got me?
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Uh, here I go.
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Okay, get a tank.
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I'm going to south door.
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G2 PRODUCT, G2, G2.
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One, I'm a P2 door.
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One, me, one, two door.
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Side flat, side, side, side-flat.
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Side, side-flat.
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One shot, side-fly.
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He's dropped down, I think, you've got in one P-5 tank.
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Um, I don't see the guy. I'm watching my hob. Do you have a street. You got, go. You guys.'s dropped down, I think, you want to put it about.
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All right, that's good two for the listening, bro.
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Baby P's hilarious, bro.
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Bro.
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Stanty's in war and Gunless PERSON is reading a fucking monologue or some shit.
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I just love the place because Gunless PERSON has great coms.
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His coms are great.
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It's just the way everybody else is just so much energy.
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The Cagis PRODUCT is just funny listening to like how his teammates are versus him.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Then we get into the second P4 and this is where Minnesota ORG, we're able to break.
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I mean, Sam, this is a good opportunity here for L.A. GPE Thieves to bring this back.
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What do you think about their setup here?
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Because it was absolute shit.
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You know what I mean?
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No, Minnesota ORG.
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I mean, Minnesota ORG made the heads-up play, getting out P-5.
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That's how you get P4 breaks on the smack.
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Once you make people that are holding the back turn around, your spawners have a lot more options.
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So, I mean, they did a good job.
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They got two kills on the right. And just by the book, book to be honest with you this is exactly how you want to break
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p force they also got hit a crap i don't i think if they don't get that nade on joe joe can probably
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disrupt his push a little bit that was a great tech usage there yeah it was good news to get joe
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as soon as joe jy's top three kind of opens up the whole middle of the map and in rocker GPE i mean
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what a break though flawless break fromlawless break from Rocker ORG.
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I don't even think there is much there from Thiel PERSON.
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I thought it was just by the book as it gets, bro.
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Just kill the guys P2, get P2, and get P2 control, and then run it in time.
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That is phenomenal.
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At that point, it was Gigi PERSON.
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Yeah, at that point, after that break, it was over.
Speaker 36379.44s - 6380.22s
I want to ask something.
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Yep, go ahead.
Speaker 36381.24s - 6384.5s
Is Sandy the best S&D player in stage three at the moment?
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He's definitely up there right now.
Speaker 36387.36s - 6387.84s
He's been cooking.
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He might be.
Speaker 36388.62s - 6389.22s
He might be, yeah.
Speaker 76390.08s - 6390.66s
He's definitely up there.
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I'm looking at his last, all their games, right, all their games.
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So he started out real bad, 0.4.
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I think Dills PERSON up there too, right?
Speaker 06397.88s - 6403.58s
After that, he had a 1.7, a 4.0, a 1.1, a 1.0, a 2.0, and a 5.0.
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Like, he's been cooking. He's been cooking for sure. I'm pretty sure. But I think.1, a 1.0, a 2.0, and a 5.0. Like, he's been cooking.
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He's been cooking for sure.
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I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure it's...
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But I think we probably got a tip phase over that because...
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It's either someone on phase. I know it's up there.
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I know Envoy PRODUCT's having a good S&D stage.
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Standy PERSON's definitely up there.
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Yeah.
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For sure.
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Staines ORG is brunt in to be a playmaker in S&D.
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I think everyone is misinterpreting, like,
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yeah. What our opinion on like
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the roster is i know if if pat's angry about talking about it we're not going to now pat just trying
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i feel like people i was just saying like we've we basically bring it up every time win or lose
Speaker 46438s - 6442.16s
we don't agree with their roster change whatsoever like yeah but it's less on standing more on the
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overall oh i agree i agree they were a solid team that needed to make one change.
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And they made two changes and took away a core piece to their team.
Speaker 56450.72s - 6454.34s
Regardless of whether the guy was a point five or one point five, like it was a core piece
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of them having some speed.
Speaker 56455.84s - 6456.96s
We all disagree.
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It was a bad roster change regardless.
Speaker 56459.78s - 6461.22s
Just not the move they should have made.
Speaker 46461.3s - 6462.16s
They should have made moves.
Speaker 56462.72s - 6463.6s
Just different ones.
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Well, I fear they made some great moves in the game five.
Speaker 56466.62s - 6468.86s
Yeah, I was going to say, let's take a look at the game five.
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This was fucking insane.
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A 3V1 situation for All-Aidies.
Speaker 56472.92s - 6474.12s
All they have to do is defuse a bomb.
Speaker 66474.36s - 6475.64s
In the same spot.
Speaker 56475.92s - 6476.96s
Smoked it out.
Speaker 46477.04s - 6477.96s
The same spot.
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They, L.A. GPE thieves smoked themselves out in a 3V1 situation.
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And all Big P does is just pull out his pistol.
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It run through the smoke and kill him off the bomb.
Speaker 46488.64s - 6489.44s
There's no time left.
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Let's he kills him off the bomb.
Speaker 56490.32s - 6490.54s
G.J.
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Even if he's not where he is, right?
Speaker 56493.4s - 6494.84s
Say he's back along instead.
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He knows where the bomb is planted.
Speaker 56496.84s - 6497.24s
Yeah, yeah.
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Shoot it.
Speaker 56498.32s - 6499.7s
Wait, where were they?
Speaker 46499.74s - 6500.54s
What were they looking at?
Speaker 06500.6s - 6501.66s
Were they both looking at YouTube ORG?
Speaker 46502.72s - 6504.48s
Bro, you don't need to throw smoke here.
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Just hop the bomb and spin it circles.
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That was a nervous play, bro. Insane smoke, bro. They trolled right there.
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Insane. 1v3 off rip, map's over.
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That's pretty much as we skim through these next two rounds. It is a
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Standy fucking master class. We get into the O2 round because Minnesota ORG win the defense.
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Two piece Nate here from Stanley PERSON.
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I don't even know where he threw that shit mid-stairs.
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And he looked like he banked the friar.
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It looked like he got that fried deep, man.
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Super deep.
Speaker 66533.84s - 6534.78s
Those guys were way upstairs.
Speaker 06534.78s - 6535.54s
They were one-shot?
Speaker 86535.96s - 6537.88s
Yeah, they coordinated there.
Speaker 76538.12s - 6539.44s
They might have got double-naded.
Speaker 06539.62s - 6540.76s
They might have doubled or something.
Speaker 76540.76s - 6541.82s
They're getting stunned.
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Yeah, number eight, number seven, double-nated it. It was honestly good place from Minnesota Rocker. They blank countered it. They knew the stunned. They're getting stunned. Yeah, number eight, number seven, double-naded. Number eight and seven double-naded it.
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It was honestly good place from Minnesota Rocker ORG.
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They, they blank countered it.
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They knew that L.A.D. ORG's was going to try rushing down mid-stairs.
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And they tacked it. They tacked it. They bombarded them with Nades PRODUCT. And Eli was able to get a big two-piece with his fragonet here. That's pretty much going to open up the round. And Eli PERSON actually gets an ace here.Standing, he finds the kill mid. Then he wins another big one there. Oh, took a look at the replay here from Eli PERSON. Find out of the last two kills here. He was hitting some nice shots, man. Eli PERSON shoot straight.Fad Islando plays coming in from Stanley PERSON. Then Minnesota go up 3-0. You're like, yeah, no, we're good. It can't get any worse. No, it got worse.
Speaker 26581.26s - 6589.26s
Standy, Eli PERSON, comes in, boom. The missile comes down. Drake PERSON missile, boom. The missile comes down. Drake PERSON missile, boom. All the way down, boom, three peace.
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See you later, LATs. Bang! And then I love to play from Eli PERSON. Instead of Eagle Chowling the fourth guy, he runs and groups up with his teammate. I mean, it's just like the fucking cherry on top.Phenomenal plays from Eli PERSON. And of course, Dan PERSON, he tries to make a play here. He can't really go anywhere. They read him. They see him. Dan PERSON really can't do much here.He gets the bomb. There's not much time left on the clock. He tries going all the way around. I also love how Minnesota ORG pushed it out. They were kind of just running together, like a unit. Lamar and Eli PERSON, good plays.They see Dan go see Dosty PERSON run. Stand, he hops the bomb. And the diffuse comes in. Lamar PERSON gets the final kill. Minnesota go up 4-0. And then we could take a look at the 1-5 round.I just had fucking L.A. GPE Thieves just solo chowling everything. I feel like at this point, they probably lost fucking composure. And then as we watch it here, I'll pull it up in a second. The LATs get smoked. Minnesota Rocker ORG, able to close it out.And it's a three-two victory for the Minnesota Rocker ORG. Guys, any final thoughts on the series as a whole here? As we watch the last and final round and we watch L.A. Thieves ORG solo chow.
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The ice is melted. This is what happens when you rely on extended series, man. Say it time and time again. When it's working, it's feeling great. You feel like you can't lose. And happens when you rely on extended series, man. Say time and time again. When it's working, it's feeling great. You feel like you can't lose. And then when you don't have the ability to end these years.Like all three of their series are all fourth of their series at this point have been very winnable prior to a game five. Either it's just some sort of throw in map three, four. And it goes to map five for pretty much no reason. So I mentioned yesterday on the show. I don't need to elaborate too much, but they need to learn how to close these series before it gets to map 5.
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It's not the end of the world. It's done. It's not the end of the world for them, though. I mean,
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they're still got a good record. No, they're probably secured winners, but this is still, like, it's just a trend that we need to be worried about going forward.
Speaker 86703.28s - 6712.76s
If they have the inability to close these series before you let teams hang around, we're in the CDL, man. These are some of the best players in the world. Like, if you're going to let a team hang around, then chances are stuff like this can happen.
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Like I said, they're winning the fives right now, but they won't forever. I'll say this. I don't think Minnesota have been playing that good, but you gave them 10 CDL points. Suddenly, for some reason, because at stage one, they're on 120. So it actually ended up being a big 10 points for them because Steve ORG's would have been on 100.They would have jumped in the seventh. And then Minnesota would have started getting nervous to that 1-10 that like Carolina ORG, Vegas, LAG, these could all start to pass them to Seattle, we'll talk about in a second. So I agree with Sam PERSON, they got to figure out a way to close out these series once they do that. I think they have a very good chance to get top six to this next event. Win some series on land finally.Thank you, fucking God, hopefully.
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Yeah, let's do some predictions, and then we'll have Ben Sinkapaw PERSON.
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Seattle Surge versus Vegas, Optic, Texas versus Miami GPE, and the New York subliners versus Atlanta phase. I'm going to start things off, Vegas versus Seattle GPE.
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Ooh, this is a tough one. I feel like Seattle GPE's low-key been like showing some signs of life. I don't know. O-4 PRODUCT has some grit over there, man. I think O'4 PRODUCT's changing it around?I don't know.
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I'm going friendship cheese.
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I'm going friendship cheese. I got 3-0 Vegas GPE Legion. Go fuck you. What do you do?
Speaker 66776.84s - 6778.24s
A whole fucking bottle.
Speaker 06778.5s - 6778.62s
Yeah.
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Go fuck yourself.
Speaker 46779.74s - 6780.18s
Like.
Speaker 06780.6s - 6781.32s
Go ahead, Sue PERSON.
Speaker 36781.92s - 6782.52s
Get it.
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I got a deal and attached over there.
Speaker 46784.24s - 6785.32s
Are you fucking taking me? Dude. Are you fucking kidding? I got a deal and attach bounce back, Sue. I got a Dillon PRODUCT attached over there. Are you fucking cake me?
Speaker 66785.76s - 6786.38s
Dude.
Speaker 36787.14s - 6787.6s
Are you fucking kidding?
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I got a Dill PRODUCT and attach bounce back, man.
Speaker 46790.86s - 6790.98s
I got Vegas Legion PRODUCT.
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Then I got Optic and then I got Phase PRODUCT.
Speaker 46794.3s - 6794.68s
I got optic phase as well.
Speaker 36796.3s - 6796.34s
If that, if you guys want to speed ride it.
Speaker 46796.86s - 6798.22s
Chris PERSON, who did you got?
Speaker 36798.94s - 6803.86s
I got, I got Vegas GPE simply because I don't think that Vegas is going to make the mistake of playing
Speaker 46803.86s - 6808.9s
these guys on Six Star PRODUCT like everybody else and giving them these new maps that they are clearly
Speaker 06808.9s - 6817.64s
Vegas got 59 points they're doing that show yeah that's the only series that I'm going to talk about everyone else is pretty clear cut we're to go Texas GPE and phase
Speaker 86818.84s - 6825.24s
Pat Ben Vegas Texas phase uh I have Seattle, Optic, and then Faze PRODUCT.
Speaker 66825.32s - 6827.6s
I hope New York GPE shows some kind of life in that last match,
Speaker 86827.78s - 6829.18s
but I really don't.
Speaker 06829.22s - 6831.04s
I really hope it's not a repeat of the last week
Speaker 66831.04s - 6832.32s
where Faze PRODUCT get done in 20 minutes
Speaker 86832.32s - 6834.12s
and we're like, damn, New York GPE got red carpeted.
Speaker 46834.24s - 6837.02s
So hopefully, hopefully they showed some time of life.
Speaker 56837.02s - 6842.78s
I got Vegas, Optic ORG, and Face. Nice, Pat PERSON.
Speaker 66843.26s - 6843.46s
Yeah.
Speaker 56843.76s - 6845.44s
Actually, I'll switch up. I got Vegas, Miami, and face. Nice, Pat PERSON. Yeah. Actually, I'll switch it up.
Speaker 66845.52s - 6847.06s
I got Vegas, Miami GPE, and face.
Speaker 56847.52s - 6848.2s
Hit a putt.
Speaker 66849s - 6851.04s
You got Miami GPE who dropped in the pet.
Speaker 56851.5s - 6851.76s
Really?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I just think Miami's going to come out tomorrow.
Speaker 36855.36s - 6855.96s
No, no.
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Why is Miami one in the series, Pat PERSON?
Speaker 06857.84s - 6859.72s
I just think they're really underrated right now, Sam PERSON.
Speaker 36860.64s - 6862.2s
What about it's underrated?
Speaker 56862.2s - 6864.44s
And I closed two episodes ago.
Speaker 06864.8s - 6865.8s
Miami GPE's got the maps. They's got to get the maps.
Speaker 36865.92s - 6867.76s
They're going to get the maps that they want in this one.
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What maps are there?
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I'm thinking they're, you know, they're going to ego chalem on Rio and Vickle PERSON's just going to have a master class on that map.
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That's the only map take.
Speaker 56878.66s - 6880.14s
You know, you think Miami, you think Rio PRODUCT.
Speaker 16880.14s - 6880.94s
That's what you pay.
Speaker 06881.18s - 6882.98s
Miami play 16 Rio PRODUCT.
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That's the only one he got.
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Yeah. Masterclass for Vickle PERSON got. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Masterclass from Vickle PERSON, though.
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Been good pass out.
Speaker 86889.94s - 6890.94s
That kills me, bro.
Speaker 66892.28s - 6894.4s
Yeah, I'm also looking at these standings, bro.
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This top eight is close.
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Oh, man, Seattle with 90 at the nine spots.
Speaker 56899.78s - 6901.64s
It's literally 10 points for everyone.
Speaker 66901.92s - 6903.24s
Yeah, 90 at the 10 spot.
Speaker 56903.44s - 6904.6s
Miami 80 at the 11 spot.
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Oh, no,
Speaker 66905.52s - 6905.68s
Boston GPE's chalk.
Speaker 56906.98s - 6908.2s
Boston GPE's in the fucking dumpster unless they just go to the land
Speaker 66908.2s - 6909.94s
and just go absolutely fucking insane.
Speaker 56910.3s - 6911.28s
But they could get top six
Speaker 66911.28s - 6912.08s
and still be in 12.
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Yeah,
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that's tough.
Speaker 06914.56s - 6915.42s
And then even,
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even Vegas GPE is like Vegas is not secure yet.
Speaker 06917.72s - 6922.18s
LAG ORG's not secure yet. Rocker ORG's definitely got a little cushion, but it's not much. This next.
Speaker 56922.56s - 6924.28s
Vince PERSON putting, Tom PERSON. He's yelling at you.
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What the fuck? Oh shit. Look at this guy. Go ahead. Ladies and gentlemen, it it's not much. This next... Bince putting, Tom PERSON. He's yelling at you. What the fuck? Oh, shit. Look at this guy.
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Ladies and gentlemen, it's better.
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That's shit.
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We know what you're going to do, man.
Speaker 06930.96s - 6931.4s
We get it.
Speaker 66931.58s - 6934.94s
And he seeks the poll yet again.
Speaker 56935.16s - 6937.68s
This guy's been putter on an absolute masterclass.
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Look at this guy. Guys, don't worry. We get a new putter on a way.
Speaker 66941.24s - 6944.5s
If anyone's voting, no, in the poll, you guys are idiots.
Speaker 16944.7s - 6945.14s
Let me say. I'm just nasty at putting. poll, you guys are idiots. Let me say.
Speaker 56945.28s - 6946.9s
I'm just nasty at putting.
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Guys, guys, rack up all your channel points voting yes online.
Speaker 56951.14s - 6953.34s
Then we get the land go all in on no.
Speaker 66953.46s - 6955.9s
Wait, we have a, do we have a mat at Toronto GPE?
Speaker 56956.92s - 6957.66s
We can get one.
Speaker 66957.66s - 6958.38s
We can get one.
Speaker 56958.6s - 6959.92s
We need to get a mat at Toronto GPE.
Speaker 66959.92s - 6961.24s
We need to figure out Toronto GPE.
Speaker 46961.32s - 6962.34s
Are we going to Toronto GPE?
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Yeah.
Speaker 56963.72s - 6967.4s
As of right now, we have a spot and it is so small.
Speaker 66967.7s - 6968.64s
It is so tiny.
Speaker 06968.84s - 6971.38s
Is it the same as last time where we were like in the-
Speaker 66971.38s - 6973.58s
No, we're not allowed to the venue?
Speaker 06974s - 6975.54s
I wish it was the same as last time.
Speaker 56975.78s - 6977.88s
We were offered that spot and we can't.
Speaker 06978s - 6982.14s
The problem is if we take that spot, if we go to the event and we wanted to the flank,
Speaker 56982.18s - 6983.2s
it would have to be on YouTube ORG.
Speaker 06983.52s - 6984.12s
That's the issue.
Speaker 66984.22s - 6985.2s
I'm thinking we'd do it on YouTube ORG.
Speaker 56985.32s - 6986.56s
Oh, right, you got you.
Speaker 06986.84s - 6987.9s
I'm thinking absolutely not.
Speaker 56988.5s - 6989.5s
I forgot about that rule.
Speaker 06989.72s - 6990.98s
Yeah, I'm thinking absolutely not.
Speaker 46991.04s - 6994.12s
The flank lives on Twitch unless YouTube ORG wants to sit down and talk otherwise.
Speaker 56994.56s - 6995.88s
Yeah, you're a little bag for that.
Speaker 46996s - 6996.92s
That's good business.
Speaker 56997.16s - 6997.86s
A little bag for that.
Speaker 46997.86s - 6999.34s
Yeah, now we got out.
Speaker 56999.5s - 7001.48s
We'll figure it out.
Speaker 07001.66s - 7003.76s
I think as of right now, we do have a spot.
Speaker 57003.86s - 7004.46s
It's a little tight.
Speaker 07005.08s - 7005.76s
Where comes to words? We can make it work. We better to make it work. I think as of right now, we do have a spot. It's a little tight. Words comes to words.
Speaker 67005.82s - 7006.64s
We can make it work.
Speaker 07007.12s - 7007.98s
We can make it work.
Speaker 47008.52s - 7011.04s
It might be very fugues, but fuck it.
Speaker 07011.46s - 7016.16s
We do a lot of fugues over here. You know, it's what we do. It's not stop.
Speaker 67016.4s - 7019.02s
It's like Ben PERSON's online putting. Pure fugues. Yeah.
Speaker 07019.54s - 7021.66s
The way it is right now is we have like a table.
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It's not, and we have like sitting around a table type of thing.
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It is just a small room, so we're going to figure a table type of shit. It just is a small room,
Speaker 47026.48s - 7030.94s
so we're going to need a, we're going to figure out they have different rooms and I'm also working on potentially in their space,
Speaker 07031.08s - 7031.4s
but yeah,
Speaker 47031.44s - 7039.3s
if we can find a new space too, that'd be great. But yeah, we'll keep you guys up there with Toronto GPE. We obviously really want to go. I really want to go.My brother Francesco's going. So I would love to. Oh, Francesco's going.
Speaker 07039.4s - 7040.92s
Yeah, he's going with his wife.
Speaker 47041.22s - 7069.06s
He's going. They're just getting a little getaway from work and stuff. So I really would love to go just so I could see my brother and stuff. But shout out to Francesco, I eat them. But that's going to do it for us, guys.That's it here on the flank. I hope you guys enjoyed today's episode. Make sure to like, comment, and subscribe you for watching on YouTube ORG. Go to anchor. That fm. Sustaflake to check all the audio sites that we're on.Go follow at the flank on Twitter. Gers doing a phenomenal job running social as per usual. Zuma.g. For the merch, command steel series in the chat. Huge shout out to them. As always, man, take care.
Speaker 07069.5s - 7074.22s
Brush your hair. And we'll see you guys next time on another episode of the flank. We'll see you guys tomorrow. Take it each. Good boss.
Speaker 37074.78s - s
Come on. All right.