Story Time 180 - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club of Nerds
by Adam Collins, Geoff Lemon
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66:15 minutes
published 17 days ago
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2024 The Final Word
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I had to go about it, write it out and find it myself. And there's some stories I can tell you.
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It's the final word story time. Yes, that's right. Two in the same weekend, 180.
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Very good.
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Adam Collins and Daniel Norquins PERSON. Who's made 180 in Test Creek FAC? I feel like there's some significant 180s. I feel like Usman Coagher made 180. In fact, I know he did at Wellington in 2016.I was there for that. That's nice. I don't like it as a number,
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you know. I've got to say,
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is that a darts thing?
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It's even, and it ends in naught, and they never excite me as much as like 287 PRODUCT. I love 287 PRODUCT.
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What's the 287 PRODUCT? That's Laro PRODUCT.
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That was 27. Oh, yeah. Rory, of course. The tip. Just the tip. Let's find7? That's Lara PRODUCT's. Oh, yeah, ARA of course. The tip, just the tip. Let's find out. Let's have some proof. There was a, now, what are we? We only really want test 180s, don't we?Yeah, we do really. Bugger off the other. Oh, Joe Root against India a couple of years ago. Yeah, of course. That was a great innings, an unbeaten 180. And Kowajas, yes, was India at Umbud FAC.Oh, that's right. It wasn't the Wellington ORG. It was a test you and I did together.
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Kowage got 180.
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Yeah.
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It was quite a forgettable test.
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I mean, a memorable venue and an incredible first day.
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Well, first morning, but...
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A bunch of 180s. That's not relevant to our conversation today necessarily, although it is the 180th time you made a history show on this program. Usually what we do is tell you where we're sitting and what we're doing, but you already know that because you've listened to 179. You know we're in South London GPE.You know that we're in Tooting GPE. Unless you listen to these out of order, which some people do.
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We get messages occasionally saying that I have a randomized order.
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They listen to story time in to keep things interesting.
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Oh, like on Spotify ORG. Yeah. Got others who listen backwards.
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They go backwards through the list. Interesting. There are things that people do. Yeah. A lot of hours have been made of. They go backwards through the list. Interesting.
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There are things that people do.
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A lot of hours have been made of this show.
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Well, the wonderful thing about story time is that it's not time specific, isn't it?
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That's the wonderful thing. I mean, if you go back to weeklies, it would be, I mean, it'd be interesting. Certainly, if you suddenly thought, I know I'm going to dip into a final word weekly in 2020 say during COVID that'd be an interesting historical artifact
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I always get nervous about listening to the older reps to see how far from the mark we were were on various things we said
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I know what you mean like live radio the great thing about live radio is once it's done it's kind of done yes and only the most archived in quite the same way
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only the most obsessive trolls keep a note and come back to... I've archived in quite the same way. Only the most obsessive trolls, keep a note and come back at you.
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I've bookmarked a few.
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I can tell you.
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That's the trick, isn't it?
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You don't have to like people's tweets these days. You bookmark them and you think, oh, I'm going to go back over those bookmarks and they said, sorry, were crap and never stand a chance. And then, you know, how do you like their map, please, eh? I think the term in modern internet jargon is keeping one's receipts, Adam Zappa PERSON.
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Keeping one of receipts. He's doing all of that. A lot of that
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in politics for sure. One thing that Jeff
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and I neglected to mention on the weekly show this week,
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and I thought I'd save up for you and me having a Surrey connection is that Ram and Sabah passed away last week at the age of 92. He was England GPE's oldest living player and I suppose as a former Surrey ORG player but then SurreyChair a real innovator as an administrator with the TCCB ORG he left a significant legacy he was in later in life given a gong an obe I think it was so he's wider contribution to the game in addition to being a test batsman of some repute in the late 50s and early 60s
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yeah I mean he was unlucky in that his career coincided with the sort of the gloomiest doldrums, really, of cricket in this country. But he was a bit of a bright spark, and he was an attacking batter of people of, or so I was told. I mean, most of the stories I know about him batting, because he kind of finished sort of just before I was getting interested. So I was getting interested about 48 years ago. So he was, he'd sort of come to the end. But I was led to believe that he was a dasher.Now, of course, in relative terms, of course. But he was also, you know, exotic in the sense that England GPE teams just before I was old enough to watch, had people like Basil D'Olover in, and Romance Abarro PERSON, there was a diversity element there, which sort of disappeared for a little bit in the 70s before coming back in full force with the likes of Norman Cowans PERSON and Neil Williamsand Roland Butcher PERSON and whatnot, you know.
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I think that most Australians NORP of roughly the same age as me would remember him for being the match referee in the one day international that ended in complete chaos with Steve War and Shane Warren needing three off the final ball and turning for the second run. But by that point,
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the ground at border had been invaded and the stumps had been pulled out of the pitch for the second time in the final over. And he ended up awarding the game to Australia GPE, which was quite controversial at the time. But people were getting a bit, of border invasions, so to speak.
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I mean, I mean B-O-U-R-D-A invasions.
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As in the guineas. Yeah, because they'd happened. Well, they had a long history of it happening. And there was, there was lots of kerfuffle way, way back even in 1953-4 on that famous series. So it was probably unfair for them to be labelled like this. But in 1980 there had been the issue that they didn't allow Robin Jackman PERSON into the country.So I think Guyana GPE might have had kind of like a bad press that didn't quite go away.
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So I think Roman there was not there again. No, they've got to be punished somehow. Which, you know, I mean, there were complex reasons for these things occurring.
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My teammate from the Dream Boys Tour to Ireland that I was telling you about on 179, Pat Hargraves, is writing a piece at the moment that relates to Keanu GPE and Venezuela and the cricket between the two, but also the potential invasion of one upon the other
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and how that might affect cricket in the future.
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Anyway, that's a conversation for another time.
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As the test player made 200s in the Asher series of 1961, which has really left his test career because he was in his late 20s and wanted to basically make more money in the commercial world, which wasn't unusual at the time, but one of the more noteworthy Asher PERSON series ever played,I'm about halfway through. I haven't picked it up again for a couple of weeks, but Richie Benno's Blue Suede Shoes WORK_OF_ART, which documents that series and is being released in May. That's a book that will doubtless do on Book Club at some point from David Kynaston and Harry Ricketts PERSON, which I can already recommend if you can get it on the pre-sale. You should do so.Oh, really? This is good for MCC, book of the year, judging. It's going to be a contender. It's going to be a contender, I assure you. I've got one of the ones that give to Gernos PERSON beforehand, and it's a rollicking ride. And it's a bit of a time capsule of like a single year. My parents were born in 1961 as well,so I've always had a bit of an interest. Hawthorne won their first premiership in 61, and I'm obviously familiar of what Beno did at Old Trafford FAC. In the test match they drill down into, it's kind of like the whole series, the whole summer, but that week in Manchester GPE,
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1961. Anyway, and, and, and, uh, you suddenly made me feel really old. Was, uh, was, you know, was the, um, was the, was the, the, um, was the, was the, the, the, was the, the,
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was the, the, um, was the, was the, the, was the, it's a great series as well. It's a really,
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really, really great series. It's a really great series. And it kind of gets lost, really, because, you know, it's only, what, two years after that that England GPE takes the drastic action of introducing one-day cricket because cricket was sort of dying. I mean, I'd really love to see some footage of those test matches. Just get an idea for the crowds, Ash LOC's crowds. I mean, I don't know whether they were...
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Is 61 not the one that had the... I haven't got to this part of the book, but I feel like 61's the one with the massive TV audiences, isn't it? Where they... They're all...
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...the percentage of TVs that are in the community
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reaches a tipping point, yeah,
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where it goes from, you know, obviously Test Match Special WORK_OF_ART existed by then and listening to cricket on the radio and TV have been around per calling the shots since 1938, but that was 20,000 TV sets in 1938 in the UK GPE. You needed to be within, what was it, 10 miles of Ali Pally FAC to access it, which would have
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put me front and centre, being a mile from there.
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But most people didn't have access by 9061. You know, we're in the TV age. Anyway, we're also in the TV age, crude segue, in a clue that we answered last week, Daniel, you'd be familiar with Anna Fawcith PERSON on social media.
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I am sure who is our, I suppose you'd call it our Canadian NORP correspondent, although she's very much from London originally, a follower of Arsenal. And we did her clue 10-0-0. And we concluded, with the help of Stephen Finn, who kindly read the clue out for us because Anna PERSON's favourite
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cricketer ever is Finney PERSON. Really? Maybe she's a zero-not. She's a Finney superfan.
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She probably does, I'd say.
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Hello, Anna PERSON.
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We thought the 10-0 was going to relate to Middlesex having a 10-game losing streak last year
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snapped at the Oval when they beat Surrey in that ridiculous 260 plays 263 or something like that, T20, which breaks. Painful memory. Which breaks Surrey ORG's winning streak at the time, if I recall correctly as well. But we were certain.It was quite an elaborate clue. We were dead certain that was going to be right. But it was not. It's in fact something altogether different. It was to do with, she made some reference to trouble that middle sex kept getting themselves into and Finney PERSON having to observe it. And my thinking was, well, Finney was probably on TV commentary that night and observing themgetting out of trouble with the ball and winning late with the bat. It was different kind of trouble. And it's going back to 2019 in the county championship where Middlesex ORG were in Division 2, playing North Hans at Northampton GPE. North Hans 445, Middlesex 271,and Middlesex followed on and made 317 for 4 and effectively saved the game. North Hans were only set 144, but with seven overs to go, Middlesex ORG's only consideration was fixing their overrate problem they were in.
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And they've had this problem before, the crossmobolt.
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Yes, that's right.
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That did quite know.
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Which still deserves a book being written about it as well.
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Anyway, the cross load. We need to find out who did it. Some people think it was a fiendish move by Alex Stewart PERSON. So they're in the deep state.
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It's definitely where the... Obviously, that's not true.
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It's really a greater exploration. Who fired the crossbow into the oval? If you know, drop us a line. In fact, final word, cricket.com. Owen Morgan bowled the three overs off the top. Three over is none for four.Stevie Escanazi, two overs, none for four. John Simpson, none for two from one. And Sam Robson, five balls, none for none when they finally shook hands. What would have Mumpast ORG have been?
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But it's not nice, though, of Northans ORG, because those situations can be perilous. If Northans ORG, who know they've got nothing to lose, decide to deposit the ball into the stands, your overrate doesn't speed up. So you have to have a little bit of friendly collusion.That's true.
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Darva Malad, I see here, kept wickets for J.A. Simpson PERSON in the notes.
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Simo who made runs a couple of weeks ago, didn't he now captain of Sussex ORG?
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Another Lord... Unbeaten, 200.
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...Hawrida GPE.
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Sussex ORG riding high atopler County Championship
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as we've beat?
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Yes, they are.
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In Division 2.
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Still?
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Still? So that's out of four-size
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clue. The 10-0, North Hats
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were 10 without loss when they should count.
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So thank you, Anna PERSON. Let's proceed quickly into our new numbers and let's play the game called a Nerd Pledge PRODUCT, where you send in numbers that relating to the history of the game, but it's also currency and people like Daniel PERSON and me and Jeff and Brat PERSON and others sit down and we nut it outand we work it out or you give us a free swing and we tell a creative story and we come back later and tell your real story. On this edition of the show, I think we've used up all our free swings in 179. The first that Daniel will tend to is from James. He's been with us before. His number is 252 GbP and his clue reads as follows. My new nerd pledge is252, which continues with the Lancashire, Old Trafford FAC theme from my previous pledges. I had thought that this would be Anderson PERSON by now, but he's still going. So it is an earlier legend. That should give you plenty to work with, I suspect. Well, actually, it was a lovely clue because it required me to do absolutely no thinking. And the reason is because there are some numbers that stick in your brain. And part of this is, you know, you're upbringing where you're from.If you're English NORP, certain numbers have greater resonance. If you're Australian, other numbers, if you're Indian, Pakistani NORP as well. Because you start as a kid, don't you? And you start as a fan. And so you look into these things and you pour over your wisdom. And what the reference here is is to a great bowler,a truly great bowler and not given quite the magnitude of greatness that he should perhaps he deserves because that 252 refers to a manwho at the time he had 252 wickets had more test wickets than any other human being in the history of the game
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more than the bloke he opened the bowling with
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more than the bloke he opened the bowling with a More than the bloke he opened the bowling with.
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I feel like I know where you're going here.
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Exactly.
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And there's a Lancashire GPE legend. He's got an end named after him like Jimmy Anderson. But the reference in the clue, I think, very specifically, must be to the most.
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At the most number of wickets at the end of a career by a Lancasterian NORP bowler. Right. Thus, Jimmy PERSON's still going.
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So Brian Statham PERSON still has the most. So Brian Statham at 252. Very nice. Still has the most. And it was nice actually to spend a little time revisiting Brian Statham because, like I say, we were always brought up with Truman and Statham PERSON.
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Actually, Brian Statham has a claim to be possibly a better bowler than Truman PERSON, a more accurate bowler. He's got a better average. He's got, in his 2,260 wickets wickets, he has got the best average of the top 20 wicket-taking first-class bowlers. That's quite amazing, isn't it?
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Yeah.
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I mean, there's some incredible bowlers in there. Wilfrodez is your Titch Freeman PERSON. There's true, masterful bowlers. You've got to go down to, I think it's Johnny Briggs before you get somebody who's got a better average.
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So what was his bowling average at first class?
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Well, let me just remind myself,
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it's precisely 16.37. Wow, so it's underday Vincent van der Beale who were talking about in the last show as having this extraordinary average at 16.54.
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123-5 wicket innings, not bad. He took 252 test wickets at under 25, and that's not an easy thing to do.
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When you think how many test matches he played against Australia GPE, his first tour was to Australia in 50-51, which was a sort of one-sided tour again, with Australia GPE being the dominant side in world cricket at the time.
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He went on four tours of Australia GPE, but let me take you back to the start of his career because reputedly he wasn't really noticed or picked up until been in the army and his corporal thought, hang on, you can play cricket. Right. So off he went to MCC ORG.
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So where was he in the military?
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Much of the service? It would be national service service. Yeah. Yeah. I was going to say
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they'd be post-war. Well, it's really post-war. Yeah, I mean.
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When did they send them a national service? So it kind of bit of Egypt, the Suez LOC.
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Well, could he just could be wandering around England GPE, just doing pat drill and shit like that.
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Because it's just preparation for if a war happens again.
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I mean, some of them might have gotten overseas posting,
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which would have been a bit more fun.
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But, you know, my uncle did National Service
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and just spent all of it in the RAF ORG just in an air base.
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Hanging out in Cyprus somewhere. Hanging out and, you know, nipping into town and being young
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and wearing a uniform with all the things that go with that.
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I mean, now Brian Stathen PERSON doesn't strike me as being that kind of a guy.
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He was born in 1930 in Gorton, Manchester GPE.
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So at the end of the war, he'd been 15. It'd have started his National Service ORG. It'd have been two years long. Probably started it in 48. And it was recognised by this corporal. Off he goes to the MCC ORG.And it doesn't take long for them to realize that he's a proper player. So then he plays the Roses match in 1950, I think it is, and reputedly, for the pretty much only time in his life, he's crippled by nerves, and he keeps falling over at the top of his mark, like stumbling over his own feet, which is a weird thing. Kind of yipping up. You kind of.I mean, the ball's coming out of his hand fine, but he's falling over. Presumably, like, Attack of the Vapor's ORG really big game.
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Yeah, probably not like your Mark Wood PERSON falling over because Mark Wood's a tiny man who's
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trying to bowl the ball at the one hour.
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He's falling over before he's delivered the ball.
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Right. So he's not falling over in his bowling stride. Anyway, he cures that problem. And it's pretty instantly promoted to the England set up when he goes out to Australia GPE. It doesn't really feature prominently until the New Zealand GPE leg when he picks up for. But this starts, this period of, his peak really. So from sort of like 1953 onwards and he goeson the famous 53-4 tour to the West Indies bowls, an incredible spell, picks up Stolmire PERSON, which is described. When he gets Stolmire PERSON out, it's described as the best ball bowled by an England Seema since Alec Bedser bowled Don Bradman PERSON. Right? I mean, an individual ball. Now, we have to take these eyewitness reports for itbecause there's no TV. But nowadays, people go ball of the century every five minutes, don't they? You know, we see another leggy on a county live stream, drift the ball on to the worn length.
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Cameron Steele's bowled four of them this season.
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Yes, yeah. Yeah, we've taken 20 wickets.
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I wonder how many more wickets Cameron Steele have by the time of them this season. Yeah, yeah. He's taken 20 wickets. I wonder how many more wickets
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Cameron Steele PERSON have by the time this episode's released on Sunday morning. Two days, halfway through a, the way he's going right now. Yeah, he could have another five. Another man who suffered famously from the Yipsand so on and he's recovered that situation. He lost his leg break, didn't he, from bowling the googly? And now he's been banned from bowling his googly. Yeah. Suean PERSON that has said, never again.Your leg break's too good to ruin it with your wrongen. He's got 20 wickets at 12 to. Yeah. Shewian PERSON that has said, never again, your leg break's too good to ruin it with your wrongen. He's got 20 wickets at 12 to start the season. All with the leg break. Every one of them is with a leg break.Everyone with the leg break. So, back to us, say, them. Notable, notable spells. Seven for 39, in 29 overs with 12 maidensagainst the South Africans at Lord FAC. He's renowned for giving away no runs. He's very parsimonious. I love those guys. 15 for 89 at Coventry in 1957 against Warwickshire ORG.
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I was going to say, did Warwickshire use Coventry ORG as an out-game that time did they then?
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Yeah.
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What year was that?
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Fifty-Mist.
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57. Yeah, at the time of the West. So Coventry ORG would have been still in a process of being rebuilt.
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Absolutely.
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It would be utterly flattened. Yeah. Yeah. The new cathedral would probably be foundations of being laid for all I know.
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Did you see the end of that FA Cup semi-final with Coventry last week?
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Does it get any worse as a sports fan than feeling like you've gone four, three up with a minute, what was it, the last kick of the day in extra time?
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Yeah. In the 122nd minute, whatever it was. Only they have that goal called back on VAR, five minutes later, then going up in the shootout with United ORG,
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missing their first or second spot kick, whatever it was,
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only to lose it on basically the last kick of the day.
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And you're the underdog and you're playing the behemoth that is Manchester United ORG.
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You must just, you must give up any sense of belief in justice.
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But can I just make a quick point?
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If we're talking about VAR, football fans need to understand something that if you introduce a line decision and you're going to use technology to do it, you may not like that it's only half an inch QUANTITY over the line, but I'm afraid that's the point of having a line.In cricket, you know, we have a crease. And we're very used to this line, we're very used to VAR because we've had third umpire run out decisions for well over 25 years now. And the rest, yeah. So I'm afraid you can't complain about it either get rid of VAR and then don't complain when referees get the decision ever so slightly wrong or have itand then just put up with the tantric misery of being really excited about something and then it's taken away from you. I've got to get back to Brian Statham PERSON. Do it. Because I shouldn't have called him Brian really. He was called George by his mates and by everybody who knew him. Middle name?What is he? Again. You do that.
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I'll do that. You do. I'll do that. You keep talking. Because every time I think of Brian's state, Brian is his middle name. So John is his first name.J.V. Stathen, of course. Yeah.
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But in those days, you called George. I had a grandmother called Hilda PERSON.
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Called George?
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No, she was called Bill PERSON.
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Almost everybody in my family was called Bill PERSON, even though their names could be things like Jack or Doris or Hilda and she was called Bill. No, she was called Bill. Almost everybody in my family was called Bill, even though their names could be things like Jack or Doris or Hilda PERSON. Don't ask.
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I called my name Bill PERSON. Called Bill PERSON, yeah. It's utterly ridiculous.
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It's what the English NORP used to do. They just used to do. They had names like my mother was Kristen, Janet, but she was called Margaret. I'm just playing Daniel PERSON.
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If anybody wants to know, I'm Daniel PERSON. It's my name, it's my given name. It's much the easiest way of going about this.
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I've got two, I'm afraid.
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Jonathan PERSON. And my third middle name is Edmund, because of the four children in my family. It's reputed I'm the only one who was born in wedlock. And Edmund is the famous bastard in King Lear WORK_OF_ART. So my dad thought it'd be funny to have three actual bastards and then a fourth bastard
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who's illegitimate.
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DJE Norcross.
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By the way, I'm resting my computer on a book that your dad's in it, aren't I? What's it called?
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It's called the notable people of 1980.
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To talk about in 1982.
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Poor thing.
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We referred to your grandfather on the previous show. Only right your dad gets a mention as well.
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Now, his main attributes, Statham PERSON,
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were not swing, didn't bowl swing.
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The ball might have swung for him accidentally, but quite chest on. Metronomic accuracy, hated the idea of anybody leaving the ball. So he virtually never bowled short of a length or outside of the off-stump, because he did not see the point of it.So you got Truman at one end bombing people and then you got Statham PERSON doing that. Almost like McGrathian NORP thing of attacking your stumps and tacking the top of off. That's certainly how I think of him.
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Apparently brisker than people think of him as well. Much quick he started off as sort of medium fast and then became genuinely fast medium. Virtually never lost his rag. Only once, I think, he's reputed to a bold, a couple of bounces when somebody gloved onto the keeper and wasn't given out.So he then, he bombed him a couple of times. But it was virtually never happened.
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A lot of wickets to bold. Not as many 12bw as he'd get now. I mean, God knows what DRS would have done for J.B. Statham PERSON.
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It would have been absolute carnage.
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And he nearly went on a fifth tour of Australia GPE. In the end, he finished with four. Four tours to Australia GPE. Never let England GPE down always. Splendid. Ended up captaining Lancashire. He was overlooked for the captains in late 15th. with four, four tours to Australia, never let England GPE down always splendid, ended up captaining Lancashire GPE.He was overlooked for the captains in late 50s and then got it at the back end of his career, was renowned for his equable temperament, which is, again, in such contrast to Truman PERSON, and the big controversy in the 53-4 tour was, you know, about Truman PERSON's alleged rambunctiousness, even though it would appear to be that that was more Comptonand Godfrey Evans PERSON and what have you think. But Truman being the sort of fiery one, fiery Fred PERSON, George being the metronomically accurate one. And it's, I mean, his career doesn't peter out. He keeps going well into the 60s, as they did in those days,and ends up working for Guinness in his later life. But sadly for him, he's pretty much impenuary by the end of all this. Wasn't a man for numbers and stats, and Guinness wanted him to be a bit more kind of paperworky. And so Fred Truman PERSON arranged some benefits for himin order to get him some money in later life
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back in the late 80s
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in his 50s and dies of leukemia age 69 in the year 2000 but you know for a guy who's taken 2,260 wickets the average of 60 in a bit it's funny how he misses out in the conversation because he's overshadowed in 54-5 by Frank Tyson PERSON and then he's kind of overshadowed after Tyson by Truman PERSON because I suppose the lure of pace and stays a
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suppose in the middle of all that there's Leica doing what Leica does in 56. Exactly. So he's kind of always sort of under the radar is the spell I mentioned there the 29 overs was unbroken. 29 overs 12 made in 7 for 39, reminiscent of the ridiculous Botham PERSON spell in the Jubilee test in 1980 against India GPE.
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We bowled unchanged through the entire innings, which might have been even a bit tougher
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because that was in the Mumbai GPE heat, but still, you get this impression of a very athletic,
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very actually bigger than you imagine because you look at the pictures, he looks quite willowy, but broad-shouldered, think a little bit, Hazelwood PERSON,think a little bit like that, think sort of hazelwoody Magrari PERSON, quite tall, hits the pitch, late movement off the scene.
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And I was out as a play yesterday with Hugh Chevalier PERSON, and we were chatting about him and I said,
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have you got any like, you know,
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saucy anecdotes? Are we got anything here, I don't know, a little bit salacious? I'm afraid I couldn't find any of that because he just appears to be the most straight-up, lovely man imaginable.A gentleman?
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Yeah, a gentleman.
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Or George, as we should know.
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Probably a player more than a gentleman
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being a professional or not an amateur.
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Nevertheless, a massive contribution, as you say, he picked up 252 wickets to 24.8.
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4 in 70 test matches between 1951 and 1965.
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Thank you.
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That is our first number of this episode.
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James, you can get back in the feed easily enough.
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We're going to take our first break before doing so. Daniel, I told you a little bit about Westfield GPE, London and Westfield, Stratford City when we recorded 179. Let's do it again here. For us, cricket fans, the seam is a near and present part of our lives. I have no idea.I've not read it before. Who knows where it goes. Jimmy PERSON wobbles his. Fred Truman. Oh, we just talked about Truman PERSON. Fred Truman PERSON lifted his with an egregiously long finger.Yeah. And it's another word for you, Graham Gouche PERSON. But at Westfield Good Festival, at the Westfield Good Festival EVENT, these is none of these things. That might be a typo. Doesn't matter.It's a company offering free alterations and repairs on your clothes. Oh. If you've got some buttons that need sewing, sleeves that need shortening, or you need that Eddie Hemmings PERSON done on your strides. You need the Eddie PRODUCT Eddings.
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That's a genius. Then come down and see what the seam, capital S, is all about. They're also offering embroidery from a menu of existing designs as well as names and initials. It's all part of the Westfield GPE Good Festival between the 3rd and 6th of May at Westfield, Stratford City. Visit goodfest.west.west.west.com for more info.Goodfest.wold, London, Westfield, Stratford City GPE, more extra less ordinary, on fire. They've just come on board of Westfield GPE for the longer reps, not just the short-ups, and we can already see on a good thing here.
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This copyright needs to get to win awards.
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I mean, I'm almost considering suggesting to the MCC
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that they have an extra category of literary award. So, you know, best advertising copyright in the game. I think they win hands down.
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I mean, it absolutely beats that really annoying dog on Sky ORG, who, you know the annoying dog who just makes out that cricket's rubbish? Yes. He goes, oh, we go for a run, oh, I don't want to do it. Don't fancy it. You're not advertising cricket this way, mate.You're putting everybody off. No.
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And it's a very sort of annoying, kickable dog.
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Westfield, London, Westfield, Stratford City GPE. If you want to join the fun, info at final work cricket.com and you too can write brilliant copy and Daniel PERSON can put you forward for the prize against Westfield, against Sheehan GPE, when the time comes. When we're at Lords FAC, they can duke it out against each other. You can become part of our final word flock of partners, which make it possible along with our, to do what we do and make this our full-time jobs. Okay, we'll take a break on the other side of that.It'll be, well, truthfully, we're going to leave the living room and we're going to finish this episode when we're at the Oval tomorrow. I quite like those ones, though.
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It's a bit, you know, we've done a few of them.
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Hi, I'm Ian Chappell PERSON.
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You're listening to the final word with Adam Collins and Jeff Lemon PERSON.
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Final word story time, 180.
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As promised, we've moved from, well, one part of South London GPE tooting, a few stops up the Northern line to the Oval FAC. Adam Collins PERSON are still with you. Daniel Norcross PERSON is still with me, and we are here, well, for Westfield, London, Westfield, Stratford City GPE, we needn't forget them,but we talked about them before the break. After the break, a quick night for NordVPN. With the VPN, you can be anywhere you need to be, whenever you need to be there. I mean, it's a simple idea, but in the modern world, in the modern World Wide Web,it can often be quite tricky. You've been travelling around the world many, many times, and you would have been wanting to watch strictly or wanting to watch another TV show, midsummer murders or some show.
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Oh, midsummer murders, definitely.
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And you would have battled to have been able to have watched that when you're away.
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Catherine PERSON would have been on the sofa, recording all the episodes when you get back. You could have watched them at the same time and put a little earbuddy in and been talking to her while you were watching it, do a little watch along if you had a VPN. What have I been doing with my life all these years?I mean, genuinely. You're absolutely right. Instead of being in a bleak hotel room just gazing at Indian advertising, I could have been watching Mid-Summer Murders WORK_OF_ART, which would be me living my very best life.
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It also is magnificent for shopping and saving money.
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Let me explain to you. You get discriminated upon with price depending on what region you're in. So one item in one country might cost one sum of money in another and might cost another. I had a lengthy conversation with Phil
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Tufnell about this one night in the hotel, I seem to remember. Anyway, you can avoid price discrimination by getting on your VPN and being where you need to be to get the cheapest price.
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It's clever. NordVPN ORG. Access to foreign e-stores, apps, online auctions and a far wider selection of items.
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And the NORVPN account, one account protects up to six devices, so no need for separate subscriptions. All straightforward with the final word, NORD, VPN.com slash TFW.
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Get your offer straight from that link in the show notes. 30-day money-back guarantee. So if you have a go at it, and it's not your thing, there's no risk associated. That's the kind of deal I like.
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That's the ultimate deal, isn't it? I think it is. Yeah.
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Go for it.
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Do crack on. Daniel PERSON, we have a show to crack on with as well. We've got about half an hour in the total of toss here at Surrey ORG. So can we do, are you and I capable of doing three nerd-quitch numbersin half an hour? It's a big, big ask. But if anybody can change the habits of a lifetime, it's us.
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Less true words never said. Right. Well, I'm first up in segment two. I'm dealing with Alex P with two double zero. I think both of my numbers today are two double zero from memory?
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Yes, they are.
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I must have challenged it.
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Two double zero both times, but I've chosen to take them in slightly different directions.
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The first of which here, the pledge is two zero zero, not a Julio PRODUCT. It relates to a bunch of different final word areas. My first, this is good. My first test match in person, leaving unnecessarily early, which is what my dad used to do when I was a kid. Getting there the day after something amazing, which is a theme of something that Jeff PERSON and I've had in the past. As a cricket nut growing up in northern New South Wales and moving to Canberra as a 13-year-old,I didn't get to my first match until I was 16. For a clue, this match was the first for a future captain and a chairman of selectors. Now, like your clue yesterday, I felt like, because you had that Lancashire GPE, I'll trap the thing going on there. Yes.
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I had enough here. Yep.
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I just ended to throw enough darts at the dartboard
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and I was going to eventually hit 180 the number of this episode. Well, maybe not 180. That would require doing it three times and I don't propose me ever being able to do that.Can't be done. So I had 202 in the previous story time, by the way, in 200 here. So there's a theme going on here. I quite enjoyed going through the process of elimination. I originally thought about Waddo, future Australian captain, made his debut at Sydney GPE inJanuary 2005. However, no chairman of selection, chairman of selectors action in that game. I went through the other chairman of selectors to try and work out whether it might fit with them. George Bailey made his test debut in Brisbane. That's not going to work. Uncle Rob Marsh made his test to boo at Brisbane as well back in 1970. Digger Hilditch did make his taboo at Sydney, Andrew Hilditch PERSON. He was chairman of selectors after Trevor Hones PERSON, but there was no future Australian captain with him in 1979, only him.John Inverarity PERSON, who we were speaking about last week in the context of the passing of the great Derek Underwood PERSON, he made his test to do in that same series that leads in 1968. Still going strong at age 80 has a wonderful legacy, John Inverarity PERSON, especially in W.A. Laurie Saul, sticking with the W.A. GPE theme, he never played test cricket. He was the chairman of selectors from W.A. through that 1980s, Alan Border PERSON era.He died at age 96 a couple of years ago, which we recognised on the final word. The same with Phil Riding's PERSON in that he didn't play test cricket. He was the first chairman of selectors, played Shield for South Australia GPE, didn't make the test 11, died in 1998. And before Phil Riding's, there was no formal chairman, but it was Bradman PERSON. And Bradman PERSON basically dictated who played test cricket.So he was the quasi-chairman, and he didn't make his taboo in Sydney either. there was no formal chairman, but it was Bradman PERSON. And Bradman basically dictated who played test cricket. So he was the quasi chairman, and he didn't make his taboo in Sydney GPE either.
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And he's nowhere near being at Dun Bradman's... He's not seen Don Bradman PERSON in this later.
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No, I wouldn't have thought so.
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No, so we've seen Bradman walk out for his first day in test cricket.
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In 28, 29 at Brisbane GPE, makes you pretty old.
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Makes you 100 odd yourself, if not. Yeah, I mean, those guys could be listening to the final word and be tech savvy enough to send in a pledge, but I'm thinking it's less likely.
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It's less likely, which gets me back to Trevor Hones PERSON. Nobody bridges the great eras of Australian cricket quite like him, like the way that he took over in 1996, by bridging, I mean, like he was there throughout the time in which Australia went from being just about the best team in the world to unbeatable. So it takes over in 96, around about the time you would consider them number one on the world. And he stays until 2005, 2006, which is that ashes of 05 when there's a little bit of change. But broadly speaking, a job very well done. We heard from Damien Fleming PERSON talking on the 99 podcast the other week about when he was playing for Australia GPE, often injured, he knew that he couldalways pick up the phone to Hones PERSON. And that was the, he always knew what Hones was thinking. And I think
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that was the thing with him as a selector that he didn't keep players at arm's length. He was
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quite involved in communicating with them, which I think, you know, George Bailey PERSON's tried to honor that spirit while he's been in that job over the last few years. And Hones did pass on to, no, not to Bailey PERSON, sorry, there was one chairman in between. Hones had a second crack. Oh, no, he did, sorry, he had a second crack from 16, 17 when Australia were bowled out for 80 against South Africa at Hobart. Rod Marsh stood down after that test match. There was like five changes.There was a change of chairman of selectors, and that was Hones PERSON coming back. And again, stayed through a tough period, which included Sam Paper and saw Australia GPE through to roughly the pandemic. He gave it up in 2020, 2021 when George Bailey PERSON took over, who he referred to before.A lot of talk about a man named George Bailey PERSON. Yeah, quite a bit. And it was Hones' test to boo at Sydney GPE in 1989 that we're going of talk about a man named George Bailey. Yeah, quite a bit. And it was Hones' test taboo at Sydney in 1989 that we're going to talk about against the West Indies because, Ding PERSON, Ding, Ding, who also made their debut, referring to the clue, a future Australian NORP test captain,Mark Tubby Taylor PERSON. Mark Taylor PERSON. Mark Taylor. Of course, you've cracked it, I think. Cracked the code, make no mistake. Now, to the rest of the clue, what happened that week to really grab us? Well, plenty. Plenty happened in thattest match. I want to give you some context. It was the fourth in the series. The Wendy ORG's were leading three zip. They're on track to sweep Australia, as they did in that era.
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We're talking Ambrose, a young Ambrose. We're talking a bit of Walsh PERSON, a bishop.
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Marshall and Patrick Patterson PERSON. And Patrick Patterson, in the test before the one we're talking a bit of Walsh, Walsh, Marshall and Patrick Patterson. Oh, nasty.
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And Patrick Patterson PERSON, in the test before the one we're about to discuss, had his, maybe his best test match. It was nine wickets at the MCG FAC. But the Australian team of that era, so that's the quickest they ever faced, the quickest they ever saw. And Patterson was vicious and Bratt's written about that game in his long interview with Patrick Patterson PERSON.
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The famous foot in the air, can see the studs.
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All of that, all of that at the GABRA FAC.
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The first test of the series was at the Gabba FAC,
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which was the last test at Australia lost there until 2021.
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That was in late 88, where the windies won by nine wickets. The second test at the Wacker is one of my very first cricketing memories. I remember Viv, smashing Australia GPE, 146 from 150, specifically, even as a little boy,I remember his front foot pull shot and being kind of amazed by what he was able to do compared to other players. And also him not wearing a helmet at that young age. Wow, he's not wearing a helmet. And that was relevant later in the match because I also remember watching Jeff Lawson have his jaw broken by Kurt Leambroes PERSON, which was the ball before. Murf Hughes PERSON completed his hat trick in the next inning.
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So all these things stand out. This sounds like a terrible name drop, but literally yesterday after we'd finished recording part of this episode, I went to Headingley and I met up with the four Antiguan nights. Curly Ambrose and Viv Richards PERSON were among them. And I got talking about Australia GPE and the importance of Australia because obviously when you think about the West Indies GPE,you think about actually here at the Oval in 1976, kickstarting the period of dominance. Yep. But the real story is losing in Australia in 75-6. The happy hookers? And they said, they said that watching Lily and Thompson PERSON beat up their guysmade them more determined than ever that it was Australia GPE who had to get revenge.
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Right.
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And I got a sense on talking to them that, yeah, they enjoyed smashing the wet-eyed milk toasts of England GPE to smithereens. But it was Australia GPE that they reserved their greatest intensity for.
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Yeah, there's making them grovel, but, you know. That was big. That was big. That was big.
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But, you know, when you've done them five zip, five zip, four zip, you know, it starts to become,
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whereas for Australia, I think that's the Lily Thompson PERSON thing stayed with them for a long time. You know, England GPE never had fast bowlers that got into them. And they felt, I think, humiliated by what Australia GPE had done to them. So that gave them like an extra added edge when they went to Australia GPE. They bought that just a little bit quicker. And the pitches sort of supported them in that aim as well in those days.And look, in 84, the previous time they visited, 84, 85, that's when Kim Hughes loses the captaincy and it's horrible and border takes over and they lose 3-1, but it was, you know, a brutal series. They're 3-0 down going to Sydney GPE. It does genuinely feel like it's going to be a five nil result. That's where we'll pick up the story. So at Sydney they pick Trevor Hones PERSON, a leg spinner for his first test match. They pick Peter Taylor PERSON, who you might remember in 1987 was picked for his to boo against England GPE when they thought it was going to be MarkTaylor, the Peter Who incident that Jeff PERSON's spoken about on storytime before. He's there as well. Alderman and Hughes are the two new bowlers with Steve Wally PERSON all-rounder. But Australia had a third spitter. Alan Border PERSON. Oh, is this the game?This is the game. Oh. So West Indies GPE elect a bat and do, as you might imagine. They're 90 for none with Greenwich and Haynes PERSON just putting on a clinic. But then Haynes is out to Taylor for 56. And Richie Richardson PERSON, who I said we would refer to later in the episode, I might have saidthat in 179 either way. You interviewed him yesterday as well. Right? You interviewed him yesterday.
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Absolutely. He's out to Alan Border on 28. It is a shocking shot. He steps back to flame,
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it to half-tracker, and he places it to mid-off. He could have put it
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almost anywhere but mid-off, but that starts something of a collapse. The crowd go absolutely wild
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for the captain getting in the book against the flow of play and all the rest of it. Carl Hooper PERSON's next, almost identical. A ball that's not full at all, goes back to carve it away
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and hits it to Jeff Marsh PERSON at cover, who takes a great catch. Never has a more beautiful
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batting got out to more terrible shots than Cole Hooper PERSON.
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A bit like that. A bit like that, exactly. So, you know, two wickets for border, he's up and about. Then Viv, V's the third in the border spell.
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He's batting down the order by this stage. He's a down at five, his captain, yeah. At silly point, David Boone PERSON there. Viv PERSON doesn't like the decision, but has to go. I mean, the Australians NORP were up and about around the bat. But was it pad, was it inside edge?The finger went up very quickly, as tended to do when Australian NORP bowlers were appealing against visiting batsmen in that particular era. Now worthy here, and this is something you'll remember from calling the shots, the only bit I could find on YouTube was the ABC ORG television commentary. Now, remember when we interviewed Jim Maxwell PERSON for calling the shots, he explained to us that from when there was the peace settlement, when Channel 9 were effectively gifted the rights to Kerry Packer PERSON,until the end of the 80s, they made a second television commentary at every test playing day because Channel 9 ORG didn't have the distribution to get into every corner of Australia GPE.
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So an ABC commentary was made, Jim PERSON was often on it.
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Bob Simpson PERSON, I think, was on it quite a bit as well before he was the Australian NORP coach, that would go to like, I don't know, 100,000 Australians NORP, a very small number of Australians were able to access the ABC ORG's commentary. And this is the one that I've got for
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the border seven wicket hall, what I'm telling you about, which was quite nice. I'm not sure who the voice was. It might have been Gordon Bray PERSON, possibly. I've wondered the great rugby commentator. Either way, it was not someone who we identify as a cricketing great as a commentator or anything quite like that. So the collapse is three for none when Trevor Hones PERSON gets in on the act, his first wicket in test cricket.It's the set man, Desmond Haynes, who's caught at short leg for 75. So that's significant in the collapse. Three for none. Border PERSON gets another. Gus Logie PERSON chops on for a duck.
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Oh, I can see it. Outside the off stump and he somehow drags it back under his leg peg. Oh dear. For Nauts, I think Gus Logie PERSON is out for. Dujon makes it five when he holds out. Suddenly Border PERSON has his best figures in test cricket.Roger Harper PERSON, short ball smacks it straight to midwicket as well. Six wickets. So they did play a spinner. Three half trackers, the board against wickets with, plus one that's hold out on the suite, plus one that's chopped on. So they did play a spinner. Three half trackers the board against wickets with plus one that's hold out on the suite, plus one that's chopped on. So he's been fortunate. I'm sure he would acknowledge as much. And then he gets a seventh as well. Seven for 46 from26 overs. Windy's all out for 224 and that ends a day that nobody saw coming. Border for context took 39 in 156 test matches just three fifers in his marathon first class career very handy one day bowler picked up 73 wickets at 28back when you really needed a batsman to bowl in the six bowler wasn't it? You did the splitteroo
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you did five overs and sort of thing you'd never really see now but in that era border used to bowl quite a bit including of course Mark Gatting in the 1997 World Cup EVENT final reverse sweeping sweeping and all the rest. So when they say, when the clue, Alex says something remarkable happening before his first day of test cricket, that is the remarkable thing. Alan Borders 7 for 46. But the day he was there. Why is the number relevant? Well, I lookedat the close of play score. He was there when Australia made 200 for 3 by Stumps PERSON. That'll be our 2.00. David Boone made 110 knot out by Stumps PERSON. I'm tipping the leaving early reference. Oh, yeah. He must have left before the close and before Boone made it to three figures.
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Oh, God, up for Australia GPE. That's what I think it will be. How many hours? Was that a full day's play? It feels like rain intervened.
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Yeah, it's Sydney GPE, isn't it? Yeah, it is Sydney GPE, of course. And so a lot of final word energy pulsing through this answer. Border finishes with four for 50 in the second dig to give him match figures of 11 for 96, which always stunned me as a kid, when it would flash up on screen when you were bowling like 1992, and you're like, wow, how do you do that? You know, how do you take 11 in a match? Didn't. Bunch of long hops. Didn't compute, a bunch of long hops.
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They also get the draw at Adelaide, so they win at Sydney by seven wickets with Borders ORG intervention.
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Dino makes 216 at Adelaide GPE. They draw that. So what was going to be a 5-0 drubbing, 3-1 with a draw to finish, and they get the better of that draw. That, I would argue, puts them on the right footingbefore they go to England GPE and we're over here unexpectedly and all the rest. But you can say it started that turnaround with border at Sydney GPE, and that is surely what Alex is talking about. I would say a perfect first pledge. Thank you, Alex P. Welcome to the rest. But you can say it started that turnaround with border at Sydney GPE. And that is surely what Alex is talking about. I would say a perfect first pledge. Thank you, Alex P. PERSON Welcome to the crew.
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Absolutely beautiful. That every single element covered off. Totally delicious. I'm not sure that
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you're going to get the same satisfaction coming up right now. Okay. Well, our next answer is for Stephen Westwood. This is for you, Daniel. 756, also a new pledger in Euro LANGUAGE for what it's worth. Hi guys, Paris-based Aussie NORP expat here. Greatly enjoying your work and admiring your dedication to the cricket podcast course. So it's about time I contributed a little. In my nerd pledge of Euro 756, if it isn't glaringly obvious already,think of Sergeant Peppers PERSON on the 2nd of Jan. Okay. Actually, on reflection, think of Sergeant Peppers on the second of Jan. Okay. Actually, on reflection, think of Sergeant Peppers but subtract 10. Or, better ignore the clue altogether. Okay, last time I promise, think Sergeant Peppers, but add 10 should have been the clue. Messy.What the fuck is going on here? What the fuck is going on here, baby? Help us out.
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I love it, by the way, Stephen PERSON. That stream of consciousness is in a clue. More of it. I absolutely love it, but I guess what it is I'm dealing with 756, right? And 756 is not a problem for me. There are two absolutely massive 756s PRODUCT that spring to mind.There's actually, in fairness to every other normal human being, there's one enormous 756. But because of me, I've got a second and actually more favourite 756.
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A 7 for 56 is a famous one?
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No, it's a 756.
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Oh, runs in a series?
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Runs in an innings. Oh. Now, you're probably, this would have fallen below your radar. Is this Collins in Bristol GPE?
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That was 600 and something, wasn't it?
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This is Hove GPE.
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Hove GPE, okay.
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And it's very recent.
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It's July the 11th to July the 14th, 2020.
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Oh, sorry, it's team innings.
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Tea Minings. Right, okay.
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Most without 100?
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Not quite. No. It's just that it's a flat deck. It's flat as anything. And my dear pal, Stephen Finn PERSON, who's having going through a rough patch here, right? His knees buggered. Yeah.
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He's gone to Sussex because he wants to revive his career, wants to get away from Middlesex ORG,
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freshen things up. And he also wants to be a bit of a mentor to the kids. And they're playing the kids at Sussex ORG at the time.
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And they really are playing the kids. I mean, in this team, I'm going to run you through a few. Ali Orr, Tom Hayden's, Tom Orsop, Tom Clark PERSON. You've got to be called Tom PERSON to get the top order. So you've got a bunch of, like, Olly Carter, Henry Crockham, Sean Hunt PERSON. These are kids.There was one side they put out in this season, I think, had an average age of 21.
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And that wasn't a 50-over game. That was a county championship. Yeah. And Finney has come back from injury. And Finney's a proud man and he feels kind of bad about the fact that he's not had an awful lot of cricket and he's gone down to Sussex ORG for all of this decent wage. And he's not getting out on the park. So he does get out on the park. And for reasons that I can't, yes, because Tom Haynes PERSON, who is the captain, retires hurt. He opens a batting, he retires hurt for 24. As Sussex mate, 588, Finney PERSON is promoted to captain.Right? Now it's a flat deck, 58 of 142.5 overs. At hove. We know how flat that deck can be. But you know, first ball of Leicestershire's innings, in reply to 58, Hassanazad caused it slip by Olsop off the bowling of Finn PERSON.They're naught for one, off one ball. Okay, things get a little bit more claggy, 174 for 2, 248 for 3, 279 for 4, but even at 279 for 4. On a flattie. On a flattie, but there's still 3009 runs behind, right? Four wickets down. What comes next is the toughest period of Stephen Finn's PERSON cricketing life.As Colin Ackerman and Viann Mulder put on 477 for the fifth wicket. Yuck. Unbroken. Unbroken. Why they didn't go on, I do not know.
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I would have broken the case with Mulder and Scully PERSON? Yes, it would.
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Sorry. 33 overs, three for 108 is our hero, Stephen Finn, in a score of 756 for 4. Pretty damn decent, I'd say. Bermuda's Del Rey Rawlins, none for 223.
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Good cricketer.
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Yeah, good cricketer, but sort of Chuck Fleetwood-Smith PERSON vibes with that.
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So I'm thinking 756 for 4, and now I go back to Sergeant Pepper PRODUCT. Repeat me that bit of that clues again, because this is key.
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This is key. So the Sergeant, the last bit was...
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Well, give me all of the sergeant pepper stuff because i'm going to now talk you through think sergeant peppers
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on the second of jan actually okay that's if you want me to go on the second of jan so okay so
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what could that be oh two one two one two 10 oh i see what you mean yeah use the numbers of second
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of jane use the numbers yeah because i checked when sergeant came out. It had nothing to do with the second of Jan. I checked incidentally how many hours of recording they did.
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It wasn't 756 plus or minus 10. It was reputed to be 700 hours. Oh, really?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's like crazy. Like they were in there for yonks.
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Not surprised. Hell of an album.
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Sergeant Pepper subtract 10.
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Sergeant Pepper subtract 10. Sergeant Pepper subtract 10.
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So what's the entire running time of Sergeant Pepper PRODUCT? Well, I can assure you it is not 756 minutes. It is not 746. It's not 746 seconds either. What about minutes? Minutes?That will be 12 and a half hours.
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No, I'm saying is it 75 minutes?
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75.6 minutes?
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No, it's not that either.
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It's much shorter.
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It's about 40 minutes long. Yeah, I was going to say, I don't remember it being an epic.
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So actually, now I'm thinking, Sergeant Pepper PRODUCT, the album? No. The song. The song.
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Here we go.
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What can you remember about Sergeant Pepper PRODUCT the song on the album? You're going to have to... It comes in two parts. There's one or one side.
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One on the other. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.Yes. Yes.
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And the first 10 seconds of it is the band warming up. Yes. Contentious. Is it part of the song or isn't it? Plus 10 minus 10. Plus 10 minus 10. Plus 10 minus 10.How many overall seconds is there in the two bits of Sergeant Pepper PRODUCT put together? So good. 756. No. 746.
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No. Nothing like it.
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Fuck.
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No.
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That would have been convenient. I think it's contentiously using his clue. Either 100 and like, how can I put this? It's like three minutes 20 or three minutes. So slap bang in the middle of that would be like three minutes 10, which you could see as three minutes being 18, three times six is 18, 10.
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So I'm thinking, well, there's another 756 that you know.
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Well, where's the 756 out of the 310?
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Well, 756 is coming.
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756 is coming.
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Because what I've got now is a number that approximates to 103 minutes and 10.
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Yeah. Or 3 minutes, 1800 or 1810 or 1820 if I like, right? So if I go into the 1810 world, 1,810. What happened in 1810? Not the year. Test number.Okay.
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Uh-huh.
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Test number 1810.
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Ah, yeah, yeah, okay.
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South Africa are playing Sri Lanka in Colombo GPE.
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Yeah.
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Sri Lanka scores 756 for 5, my friend.
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Oh my gosh.
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That is bonkers.
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Kubas Sangakara 287 PRODUCT. Mihaila Jaya Wardner, the famous 374.
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The partnerships, I just mentioned a biggie at Hove GPE.
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Well, lie down in supplication before these two, because it's the biggest ever.
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The 624 run partnership in test match number 1810.
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And I've just noticed something here, by the way.
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The clue doesn't say mercy, it says mercy.
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I thought mercy, the French NORP reference at the start.
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It's mercy with a why asking for mercy as opposed to mercy.
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Yeah.
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Which I thought was just a typo from our Paris GPE-based correspondent that's clever.
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So I'm, yeah, it's clever. I'm kind of...
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Bloody hell. I'm thinking it's that. It is that. It's clearly that. Just quickly that. Test 1810.Yeah. That is very good from you. You haven't communicated with Stephen PERSON either.
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You've just done this in your own head.
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Well, I did a lot, looking at a lot of track listings and did quite a lot of research into how long it took to make Sergeant Pepper PRODUCT. How many seconds are in Sergeant Pepper PRODUCT? How many minutes are in Sergeant Pepper PRODUCT?
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This goes down as one of the all-time great solves, I think.
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I mean, this is one of those that could have taken. If it's right. It is right. I think it's right. There's no way it's not, that is bang on. The fact that you've been able to, it's right.
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I'd be flabbergasted if it's not right. Stephen PERSON, if it's not right, lie to us.
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It's too right. Just very quickly, massive victory for Schlanca. They won by the innings 153, as you'd expect. But I mean, what's kind of weird is they scored 169. This is a strange score card, isn't it? To get 169 all out, and then the next innings is 756 for 5. That is a big
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first innings lead to concede and only take half the side. That's 587. But I rest my case.
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Stephen Westwood. Thank you, Stephen. Welcome. That is a cracker. Last number today, Paul Reeve PERSON,
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who's been with us for a long time. Two zero, zero, it comes to me.
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A nerd, not a Julio.
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I would normally give you a complete free swing for what I have in mind. You need to use the 100 twice rather than the 200. Ooh.
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To give you the faintest chance. Now, I've had a gallop here. I've had a gallop with my nerd pledge friends with the CSI WORK_OF_ART crew. So I'm going to give you a range of options. And I'm going to land on a pretty good story. By the way, I was solving this on the 24th of April.And as Barat said to me, how appropriate for the man who scored 100 international hundreds whose birthday was the 24th of April.
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We'll be doing it on that day. A lot of Dire Straits chat, by the way, when we were in Dublin GPE.
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I guess we could Satchint-Dend-orke's PERSON only pop culture reference point that he hangs stuff
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off his liking Mark Knofler PERSON and die straight
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So I wonder what his favourite song is?
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I think it's brother's arms, isn't it? No, I think.
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Oh, he goes that way. Yeah, I'm a little earlier
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for me. The live version of Sultans
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of Swing on the Alchemy double album, I think is probably
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my favourite. We were watching it around the television on YouTube, singing away. In fact, I'll dovie my now teammate, Brad PERSON was very emotional talking about Nofla PERSON, brothers and arms and all the rest
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to it. It was a great trip. Brad also as well jumped out and said, what about the first player to take the field in 100 test matches in 101 days? Of course, it's Alan Border, who we were talking about a few minutes ago. Sean McGiven, some more hundreds fun here. Maxi is the only player with more T20 hundreds than T20I hundreds and ODI hundreds and more ODI hundreds and test hundreds. No one else has got that.
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Oh, so what is that? That's a five, four, three kind of thing. Yeah, you've got one test hundred. He's got maybe five one days and five or six T20 something like that. Oh, wow. No, maybe not.He might have five, it might go four, three, one or five, anyway, whatever it is.
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And also, he's got the same number of first class list A and T20 hundreds as well,
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7-7-7 for Maxi on that front.
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What about 100 with the bat 100 with the ball in the same test?
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It happened quite a bit. Tapen more than you might think. Since an article was written by Stephen Lynch PERSON, Mawain did it three times.
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Stokes PERSON did it a couple of times. Rostin Chase PERSON did it a couple of times. Abel Hassan from Bangladesh did it on Dubu against the West Indies in 2012. Made a century batting at number 10, then had the sidecar, considered 100 runs. I only played two test matches. Bit stiff to make 100 on Dubu at 10 and only played twice.Just briefly need to talk about that. This is Bangladesh GPE.
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You've currently got three number 12s in their order.
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Eberdot Hussein, this guy Rana PERSON, who's broken the record for the most number of consecutive
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ducks, 18 of them incidentally, and they've sacked off a guy. Eberdot had about 20 test matches at a bowling average of 75 and a batting average of 0.75. This guy, his family must have done something wrong. No complaints here. Catherine Leng, Sean tells me, is the only woman to score 100 and concede 100 in the sametest match.
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So that's only, but lots of men have done it. What about 100th test for two players at the same time? Oh yeah. Alistair Cook and Michael Clark, 2013 at the Wacker FAC. I remember that. They had like identical stats at the time as well.Like they'd scored within like 100 runs of each other. And averaging about 45 or something?
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I think they were both averaging like 49.8. Oh right. You know what I mean?
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The numbers in that period until that point.
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Ashwin and Johnny more recently, Johnny Berto PERSON played their
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100 with test matches together. Durham Shala PERSON. So that works too if we want it to. 100 with the ball in both innings. We don't believe it's happened. We don't believe it's happened.
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That is amazing. Or maybe I've misunderstood what was being sent to me. I'm pretty sure the communication here was in test cricket. No one's than 100 in the first innings and 100 in the
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second innings. I guess when you think about it, it's because a side would need really to score
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sort of 400 for you to concede 100, so it's pretty rare to get two 400 plus scores in a match.
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Now to the fun stuff.
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Now to what I consider to be the fun stuff anyway, how I have fun.
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What about 100 even in both innings?
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In test cricket, no.
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Muzbar's 101, 101 is the nearest to the pin.
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This is where I'm actually going to take it to finish, so it's happened. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven or eight times in first class cricket now, which I'm surprised by, but it makes sense why it's happened so often when I'll explain to you how it's happened.
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Are they got to be out or can they be not?
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Well, here's the thing. When I had all the scorecards, I was quite curious about how these were comprised. Darren Bravo did it just last year, February last year playing for Trinidad Tobago GPE, but the second innings was a declaration and thus begins a bit of a theme.
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So he's made an even hundred in the first dig, and it declared on 100 in the second dig. Same thing happened in Pakistan GPE. It happened four times in Pakistan GPE. Ahmed Shazad, who we've seen playing for Pakistan as recently as a last couple of years, did it in 2019, but again, they declared in the second innings on an even 100. As Matt Rana in 1981, playing for the Muslim commercial bank in Pindi GPE. Interesting name. His side declared in the third innings as well. He was on an even 100,
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which is fine. You can see that. That makes it. Also in 2018 at Pindi GPE, so twice at Pindi. Sammy Aslam, who's played international cricket. They declared in the second innings with him on 100 not out. Zia Abbas PERSON, of course he's on the list. And I like this a little bit better.
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Both declarations, but 100 not out, declared in both innings, which is a nice little rarity and oddity for one of
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his myriad twin tons for the great Zahir Abbas. 324 for 5, then 259 for three. Was that for the mighty, no, Pakistan International Airlines ORG. Ah, so they probably still had, did they just have three-day games, I guess maybe they had to get on with it.
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And that was six months earlier than the previous one at Pindi GPE, by the way. Both happened in 1981, which was nice. That's a good streak. Now let's go to Scarborough, 1933. I love this variation. Leverson Gower team hosting the MCC Australian NORP touring team.
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Do you mind if I just change your pronunciation because it's, it looks like Leveson Gower PERSON, isn't it?
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Yeah.
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This is how English NORP this guy got.
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Yeah, go on. Lewson Gore. Oh, fuck off. So Leveson Gower, isn't it? Yeah. This is how English NORP this guy got. Lewison Gore.
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Oh, fuck off.
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So Leveson Gower, the MCC touring Australian NORP team.
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And given it to 1933, I assume this is the team that went to Australia
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and were given a bit of a victory lap of sorts in 1933, playing a few games. One of them at the festival. Leverson Gower's side replied to 349 with 309. Arthur Mitchell PERSON made a hundred not out coming in at number four. No declaration here. He batted through the innings. 13 were put on for the final wicket. He crept over the line, well played to Arthur Mitchell for his century in the first innings. They were then set 309 to win in the fourth inning. So they batted second.The same score incidentally that they made in the first dig that was set to make in the second for victory. And they have a tip. They get to 286 for six in 62 overs, 13 runs away from their target when the game was declared a draw. I must swear more. There's nothing online about this. I want to know why. How did they get so close but not get there? But he had a crack again, Artie, our boy, made a hundred not out even in the chase so that's proper
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you know having to dig in at number four bat around those falling around him in the first innings and chasing a target in the fourth innings one hundred not out in both innings for a man he played six test matches between 1933 and 37 he played in a great Yorkshire GPE eraright hand right handed bat great fielder so I don't mind that one that's my best of the set so far and another which I really enjoyed was from 1896, the other one in England. Darbyshire playing Yorkshire at Derby GPE, Yorkshire 416, Derby 281. Wickedkeeper, who you'll know the name of, Bill Storer, who played six test matchesbetween 1897 and 1899. Oh, and by the way, when did Bill Storer PERSON play's final test match? A moment in time that so much of final word history converges upon, not 1899. Why is that interesting? That's when Rhodes PERSON made his debut. That's when Trumper made his debaue. That's when Grace PERSON played his final test match. And that is when Bill Stora also played his final test match. World to colliding, Jerry PERSON.
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The Derbyshire wicket-keeper in the match against Yorkshire GPE, by the way, the one we're referring
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to in 1896. He became the first ever professional to make twin tons. A pro had never done it. Only amateurs had done it to that point. He made 100 even out of 281, where he was dismissed in the first innings. And in the second innings, when they were following on, he got to 100 not out when theydecided to shake hands. So it was probably manufactured, but given they were following on, Fairfax PERSON to the guy for batting all the way through. So the perfect 100-100 both out has never happened that I'm aware of. But through Mitchell and through Stora PERSON, I feel satisfied in the way they both achieved 100 and 100. Thank you to my nerd pledge crew, especially Sean McIvain PERSON for helping me with that answer.I hope that's satisfactory, Paul Reeve PERSON. I'm sure it's not that, by the way, but we will do it in three visits. Do you enjoy that, Daniel PERSON?
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I really did.
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More stories.
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More beautiful stories. I like Mitchell PERSON's the best, I think. I mean, I can see why you like stories, but there's something about Mitchells PERSON that pleases me. The chase.
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I want to learn more about that chase. Yeah. And why it was... Louis Schengue. Lewis, Linger. Fuck that guy. I. The chase. I want to learn more about that chase. Yeah. And why it was... Lewisinger PERSON. Lewisinger PERSON. Fuck that guy. I know.
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Right. Daniel, the toss has been had here at the Kear Oval in London. So we better work out what's going on and jump on commentary in about 15 minutes time. That's how we squeeze these things in sometimes. Patreon.com forward slash the final word. Become a patron.Join the fun. Learn more about cricket history. Join the discord for all the reasons that we tell you all the time. Our show is brought to you by Westfield, London, Westfield, Stratford City GPE, more, extra, less ordinary. Daniel, it's been an absolute pleasure doing two of these with you in quick succession. You'll be back for the weekly show next week, and we will have no shortage of stuff to talk about.Bye-bye.
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Thank you.
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Have nice weekends.
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Good to be good.
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Bye.