NFC North 2024 NFL Draft RECAP

NFC North 2024 NFL Draft RECAP

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31:37 minutes

published 13 days ago

American English

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You got a team, here's a word of the wise. You want to dominate your league? Go to football guys. Football. I'm living in a fantasy. Football.Got everybody mad at me. Football. Because every game I had to win. Football. I got to be a champion. I'm living in a fantasy.

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It's the way this show started back in 2006 when I got on the phone with some guy named Sigmund Bloom PERSON, who had just been hired by football guys and were like, let's talk about the draft. And we talked about it for three hours. Then I said, let's make that a show because I had been tasked by the great Joe Bryant to createa internet radio show.

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I don't even think they were called podcast Bloom PERSON. So that's how the audible started. I actually, over the weekend uh before the draft before the draft so it's like wednesday or something i was listening to the very first episode of the oddball ORG i was oh wow yeah it's it's cool i mean i'm not very good but you get your chops in right and to hear you man and have that energy and then today to be able to share that with you

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19 years later it's fantastic we're going to get into the teams at tennessee north today on the draft recap here on the audible bloom but before we jump in we just have to reflect on we've been doing this a while buddy yeah we have

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we've learned some stuff we've watched some stuff happen and then later on learned how little we actually know about what's going to happen.

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Right. When the draft goes down, like I said, I'm going to stick with this.

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You know, it's like getting to see the future, but not understanding what you're seeing. So having to go back to the present and catch up with that future before you finally do understand what you saw. But we're going to shoot our takes. And of course, we're here to try to help spin it for fantasy, but also just revisiting the draft as such an important holiday on the football calendar, on the sports calendar, because the reason this show started when we geeked out for three hours. It was three hours that passed like in five minutes, you know.I think we were probably, we're men. Hi, I'm a man. Give me an opportunity to tell you what I know as you're doing right now, actually. I will make me gratifying to me. And we, I think, we're really enjoying, like, just that somebody else cared about all the level of minutia that you can learn about the draft leading up to it, even back then, although obviously the amount of coverage and information of the draft cease has exploded, I don't know, 10-fold, 50-fold.

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Yeah.

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But still, we were talking about the information that we had learned about these players and what specific conjunctions or alignments excited us or maybe a pick we were anticipating or a pick that we didn't understand. But we talked about it for three hours.And it's only the football fans that I think really are into the story of football. Because every intellectual subject about football intersects at the draft. Every narrative, human, spiritual, emotional, psychological story intersects at the draft. So it's the true football guys, football gals that meet up, that have their brains tuned into this and turn on to it. And that's why this is such an important holiday and why it's so exciting and renewing.

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Because in the NCs, the draft is about birth and rebirth. And we should all get a little bit of that in our lives every now and then.

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Yeah, it's a celebration. And Chicago Bears are the team we start out with in the NFC North LOC. Of course, it's Caleb Williams. Of course, he's got generational talent. Of course, I'm worried the Bears ORG are going to screw him up. I think that's maybe a larger conversation for later, Bloom PERSON.But they got Caleb Williams, number one overall, of course, because they were going to do that. Roma Dunesay, they followed that up at number nine, reminds me to Larry Fitzgerald PERSON. Third round, Kiran, Amagad de Jain, Yale ORG offensive tackle. I hope I got that right. Tori Taylor, punter from Iowa GPE, hot punter talk. Austin Booker PERSON, though.Fifth round, Austin Booker PERSON. I was like, okay, Booker, about a third, you know, third, fourth round. Fifth round, Austin Booker, Kansas, Edge for the Chicago Bears ORG with a few picks. A small amount of picks make a large impact for this team.

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Yeah, amygodgy. Amygodgy. We always get to brush, more and more we get to brush up on our pronunciation of four names in the NFL ORG draft. A transformative draft cease. I mean, this is one of those drafts for Chicago ORG that could be like how the Bears franchise was thought of before Caleb Williams and how we think of the Bears ORG after CalebWilliams. It can be that transformative. And partially because Caleb Williams is a transformative figure in the NFL ORG. He's the first name image likeness quarterback. He's the first name, image, like, and his quarterback. He's the first quarterback that understands the idea of being in the public light, in the public eye, and what comes with that, and he's influencing it, right?And this is why C's before the draft, we heard a lot of stuff that I think, the anonymous scout stuff that I think boil down to. I just feel uncomfortable. This guy makes me feel uncomfortable. And I don't like that. As a scout, that's one of my scouting skills.

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But this new generation of players. For many reasons, Bloom PERSON.

Speaker 2313.18s - 459.56s

Yeah. For many reasons, he made him feel uncomfortable. And this and how Caleb Williams does is, I think, going to be an interesting harbinger of the new generation of players. Player empowerment era, fully upon us, and the Bears are going to have the first player empowerment quarterback. Thank you, Lovie Smith PERSON.Can we say that again, cease. Thank you, Lovie Smith PERSON. Without Lovie Smith, none of this happens, without that win that gets Chicago ORG into the number one pick. Of course, thank you David Tapper PERSON. I mean, probably the only people thanking David Tepper right now are the Bears ORG.And you get Caleb Williams. We've talked a lot about his game and what he can do. You also then have Rome-A-Dunzee PERSON, right? Seas the universe works in a mysterious ways. Williams and Adunze on the same flight to Detroit GPE. Hmm.What's the symbolism there? They take a photo that may be iconic. If this really is for Bears ORG fans, the dawning of a new era, that photo of Roma Dunzei and Caleb Williams getting off of that flight and saying, look who I ran into and having this glow about them, that's like the photo that's in the closing credits after they win the Super Bowl EVENT, right?Like going back to these moments that led up to this culmination. I'm not in Super Bowl, whatever, just forgetting about the era of the Bears ORG never have a good quarterback, forgetting about the era of Bears offensive football is like Big Ten ORG offensive football, you know, Caleb Williams and Roma Dunzee can do that. And having a Dunnesey PERSON fall to them, you know, Michael Pennix pick is part of that story. Michael Pennock's PERSON pick is a part of a lot of stories from thisdraft. Wow, what a hookup. And remember, they also get Montes PERSON sweat in this draft. Okay, they use a pick from this draft to get Montes Sweat PERSON who looks fantastic already. And now it looks like they actually got ahead of the market on edge salaries. So maybe, I'm sure I might have been one of the people saying, hmm, I'm not sure about that move. It has really worked out for them. They also use a pick in this draft to get Allen PERSON, Keenan Allen PERSON.So, you know, this team, what an interesting division now that NFC North ORG becomes. As we talked about with the Yale ORG tackle, Magaji PERSON, a developmental left tackle. And that's, see, how often do we see good teams spend picks on developmental left tackles? It's like developmental, it's like developmental quarterback at this point. So the Bears, Ryan Poles PERSON, doing good things.They get the top punter. See, see, what are your thoughts about drafting punters? Terrible.

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Sorry, I don't, I'm not here for the punter talk, baby.

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Yeah. No, I know. So, you punter talk, baby. Yeah.

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No, I know.

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So, you know, this is maybe the one thing that we, on the Bears ORG report card, that we don't give them a strong grade.

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It is what's funny about this one.

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This is the Jalen Carter PERSON trade. So at least they got this pick by just letting Philadelphia move up one pick for James Carter PERSON. But the reason that Troy Taylor PERSON was known as such a good punter is because I was offense was terrible, even with Sam Leporta PERSON, and he got to break records for punting. So you also get Booker PERSON. This is a trade.I was like to put together the trades. The Ryan Bates PERSON trade, and then they gave up this pick for Ryan Bates, and then they got the pick back by giving up a fourth rounder next year for Booker PERSON. And this is the kind of pick you want your team to make on the third day. High ceiling, late bloomer, natural pass rusher. You think of a player that really only had one year,but true experience and production as inexperienced. When you watch him, he looks like one of the most polished pass rushers in this draft. They also got Dan Feeney last year for a pick, the sixth. They got Nikiel Harry PERSON. Last time we're

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going to mention Nikol Harry on the show, Cease WORK_OF_ART. Obviously neither of them on the roster. And there's the Bears. And I see, I definitely think one thing I'll say that is going to again intersect in every one of these teams we talk about. And we're spending a little while talking about the Bears ORG. And it's our first episode of this series, a little chatty. But this is that important for the Bears ORG. And the NFL is like the great American NORP novel now, I think.

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And these stories have epic sweeping. I mean, look, whether Caleb Williams is a flop or Caleb Williams takes this franchise to places it hasn't been, it's going to be quite a ride and an epic story. And one, again, I think also says about where the NFL ORG's going.

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Undrafted free agent-wise, we're going to do that for all these teams. Remind me if I forget Bloom, because I often do Western Kentucky quarterback Austin Reed PERSON. I saw him at the Senior Bowl EVENT. He's not real good.

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But of their undrafted free agents, he's the one that stands out to me. Yeah, it's actually not a very exciting UDFA class. If you like to get excited about this class. Keith Randolph, I don't know, Dame Bruegler had him as a sixth rounder out of Illinois ORG, a plugger, you know, a guy that you like to have the end of your roster to eat up some snaps, snap eaters.Well, it can't all be exciting, punters and snap eat eaters and my team that i'm so excited about sees on the nmc side detroit lions

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yeah detroit lions here we go if we talk about dan campbell and company and uh well there you go terrian arnold all right um we could move out of the first round or you could just get two really good corners to start out with. Now, why, Enis Raykstra PERSON? Why was he there? And the second, I don't know. There were some mocks early on that had him around the first round. So it's like, okay, you get a value pick there. You get arguably the best corner in the draft. I think Nate Wiggins PERSON is probably the most complete corner.Quinn and Mitchell PERSON, the most athletic corner. But Tarian Arnold, it might be the best corner from Alabama in the first round. Giovanni Manu, British Columbia offensive tackle in the fourth round. Sione Vaki, Utah GPE Safety, who can definitely play around the line of scrimmage. McCoy Wingo, defensive tackle from LSU there in the 6th, and Christian Mahogany from Boston College ORG, offensive guard to wrap up what Dan Campbell did over the weekend.

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Yeah, this is a Lions ORG draft, and it's an effective draft in terms of if you looked at the Lions roster, you looked at, remember remember this team was one play away from the super bowl last year and not in a flukeish way okay they went into san francisco and they were very much the equal if not better team uh in san francisco in santa clara so they move up for arnold they get him at 24 honestly if he would have went as high as 12 to denver PERSON i mean see if the universe without bow nix is ar Arnold in play at 12?Edge PERSON was. Or 13, the Raiders, 14.

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Yeah, the Broncos ORG could have saved it for the last episode. That's why we end with wheat. But so you see the first, not just two picks, the first three picks, Arnold, who's reunited with Brian Branch PERSON, can play inside, outside, high production on the ball. And Rake Straw PERSON, who is a tremendous cover guy, has an injury history, doesn't, he sees, why is he there in the second round, injury history, and he isn't ideal physically in terms of length and speed, but he can cover like a mofo.Those guys tend to work out. So they're plugging holes in the secondary now. And remember, the third round pick turns into Carlton Davis. So you have a starting secondary. Wow. You come away with potential long-term starting secondary for this team that pretty much has everything else that they need. They do give up a 2025 third to get Manu PERSON, who, you know,

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maybe reminiscent of Jordan Milata PERSON, does have a rugby background. University of British Columbia ORG, we don't hear much about trading up for players from University of British Columbia ORG, but he's 6, 7, 350, and they think they can make something out of him.Again, good organizations taking high ceiling developmental left tackle. Siani Vocki PERSON, isn't this just a lion's guy running back, safety? I think the name Eric Weddle PERSON was thrown out there. And look, he's a guy, I think, that plays with all the energy and intensity and desire that you want. Maybe isn't the most refined or polished player, but doesn't that sound like a Detroit GPE lion?Yeah, right? Neck caps. That's the whole thing, right? And they move up for wingo okay uh this is a guy on dame bruego's board that was a third fourth round pick they get him well into the third day and again you know he's a guy he doesn't have ideal measurables but he basically plays like a poor man's ed oliver you know he's a captain he was an lSU captain okayuh and again there's this idea of loyalty you know at rake star PERSON i think could have been an alabama guy but he stayed out of loyalty um mahogany is another guy that stayed where he was out of loyalty does that sound like a lion right there's things that have more value than just maximizing your situation and dame bruehler described mahoganyany GPE as basically like the bouncer at the club. You know, that's how he plays football. Does that not sound like a Detroit GPE lion, like a kneecap bider?

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Yeah, kneecap bider. I love it. And then Detroit Lions ORG UDFA. So, well, Isaiah Williams was a player that I was excited to see down at the Shrine Bowl earlier this year. He's got some speed and hands to his game. He wasn't the best receiver there.I think that was probably, oh, what, Washington, Taj Washington PERSON, or Malik, Washington ORG. A lot of Washington's in Williams PERSON.

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But either way, there's a UDFA from the Lions ORG I'm interested in. Bloom, how about you? Yeah, Williams PERSON, we've got to talk about, highly productive, small, but still first team Big Ten ORG receiver, a've got to talk about. Highly productive, small, but still first team, Big Ten receiver, a quarterback to wide receiver convert. A Lovie Smith PERSON recruit, by the way.So in the second time, we get two chances to talk about Lovie Smith PERSON right out of the box here. A captain at Illinois, and they gave him a pretty big guaranteed amount of money, like $225,000 or something. So they went after him. I mentioned Steel Chambers PERSON, another convert running back to linebacker, a project, you know, has the movement and everything you want in a linebacker. And again, what do you see with the Lions ORG? They identify the person,the football player, not so much the traits and skills at this point, but just how is their engine turned on? Is the light turned on for them? And they think, okay, we can make players out of you. If you've got that, you belong here.

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Yeah, you belong here. You belong. Let's talk about Brian Guttencust because like when the, when Ted Thompson PERSON passed away and God rest his soul, like you're like, okay, Brian, what can you do? And he's had some mistakes, but he seems to learn from his mistakes. And the Jordan Love PERSON pick, right?So many people upset and what are they doing? And it's like, all right, now you see what they're doing. Now you can look at what Brian does. And being in this game so long, I was telling it on the Airbloom PRODUCT, like I remember when what Ian Cunningham was a road scout, like covering the buffs in like 2010.

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And now he's assistant jam in Chicago ORG. So it's like, I love seeing that, you know, growth and development of these people that are around football and love football tremendously. So Brian Guttencust, the Packers ORG, I admire this draft. Let's get into it because there's a lot to it. So Jordan Morgan.

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Yeah.

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Power offensive tackle in Arizona there in the first round. Edron Cooper PERSON, I had him as the number one. I'll be in this draft. Second round pick of Javon Bullers, where Georgia ORG's safety. You want to get to some Georgia ORG players. They get my number one running back in this class.And I still remember at the combine when I asked Marchon PERSON, hey, Marshawn, you're my number one running back. Tell me why I'm right, which got some chuckles from the crowd. But anyway, Marshaun Lloyd PERSON, he can do it all and he's got a bunch of speed. Yeah, he's got to clean up the fumbling. Okay, so you can do that, five points of pressure or whatever.So very excited to see what Marshaun Lloyd can do for the Packers ORG there. Third round pick, again, Teron Harper, Hopper, sorry, Hopper from Missouri GPE linebacker. Fourth round is Evan Williams, Oregon GPE Safety. Fifth round, Jacob Monk, Duke Center, another fifth rounder and Qiton, Ota Dapo PERSON. Oregon State ORG, safety. And then six-round, Travis Glover PERSON, Oregon State, safety. And then six-round Travis Glover,Georgia State ORG offensive tackle. Michael flipping Pratt in the seventh round at quarterback. I'm not saying he's going to be Matt Hasselback or Mark Brunel or Aaron Brooks PERSON, but Green Bay has a long history of doing this.

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And yes, you take a guy, Pratt PERSON should have ever been there. He should have been, you know, a fifth rounder or maybe a fourth rounder if you're excited about him. Smart player can distribute the football there. So seventh rounder and Michael Pratt PERSON, you love that. And then Kaelin King, Penn State Corner ORG to wrap up this big draft for the pack.

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Yeah, Goody PERSON's comfortable, right?

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He's comfortable now.

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Ted Thompson's PERSON successor. That's a massive name, right? He's comfortable now. Ted Thompson's PERSON successor. That's a massive name, right?

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I mean, Titans ORG that we've encountered in our time on the draft scene, cease. And you can feel it like other teams

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are more like the hair, in the tortoise and the hair. Or at the very least, other team sees, you know, like a Detroit GPE, for instance. You could see exactly what they're doing. I mean, it's a plan that is apparent from a long distance. You can look at it and see like, okay, this is what this team is about.

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You use the word that we should use in this conversation, Bloom PERSON, comfortable.

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Because I was going to say frantic when you were saying this, but it's actually comfort.

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And Goody PERSON finally got comfortable.

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When other teams aren't comfortable, they seem frantic, but they're actually just uncomfortable in the

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process. Right. And

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why is he comfortable? Well, again,

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it wasn't apparent. Look, we all dunked, me included on the Jordan Love pick, and the A.J. Dylan PERSON pick and the DeGara PERSON pick were a bad pick, so two out of the three bad. But the Jordan love pick has worked out. And even when you look athow he's assembled this offense, because one of the magic tricks that Goody PERSON has pulled is having this whole offensive pass catchers on rookie contracts. Whenever it's escalating cost for wide receivers, and he's got three that have plenty of cost control years ahead. So my point is, as we talk about this,is that Goody PERSON is like the tortoise in the tortoise and the hair. And it might seem like, I don't want to say boring, but just not as exciting or get your adrenaline flowing as some of these other drafts when you think about how it's going to affect the team, because as he's showing us, he's kind of playing 40 chess here. Jordan Morgan, in a great offensive line class, it's a fine pick.I mean, he may end up as a guard. You can always use players like him. Cooper is a nice fit, and they traded down before they got him. Just a seek and destroy linebacker, probably middle linebacker for this team. For IDP, there's your number one IDP in this class.Bullard PERSON, this is, and let's take Bullard, let's take Bullard in concert with Xavier McKinney PERSON. So now you look at this team's safeties as a really nice combination of safeties with a lot of versatility, a lot of versatility. Bullard PERSON's got the instincts.He's got the Georgia ORG pedigree. Lloyd PERSON, we've talked about on the show already. And what's interesting about Lloyd PERSON is he's very different than Josh Jacobs PERSON. Jacob's more of a rugged, downhill, no nonsense runner. Lloyd PERSON has that zone style that we really like, patient, patient, patient burst.And that's exciting. He's going to be exciting as a contrast to Josh Jacobs PERSON, and he may allow them to move on from Josh Jacobs' contract next year. Jacobs PERSON may play well enough to make this into a dynamic duo. Fortunately, from the Jacobs PERSON point of view, this gets us back into the Matlafflorrunning back usage with Aaron Jones that kind of frustrated us. But it's, you know, where they got them, like you said, C's. It's all about the fumbles. Hopper PERSON, they get and then Rassul Douglas PERSON deal, they get this picked moved up where they can take Hopper PERSON.Who's another quick, rangey linebacker fits the type that they're looking for. Monk, they get after a trade-up, just a solid, versatile interior lineman. More safeties, just totally redoing thesafety depth chart here with Oladopa PERSON, who started out as a walk-on. And you have Glover PERSON, versatile, again, versatile depth, Pratt PERSON, and you're right, cease for this to make you think ofthose other Packers' backups. A lot of people liked Pratt PERSON. A lot of people like Pratt better and you're right, cease for this to make you think of those other Packers backups. A lot of people liked Pratt. A lot of people like Pratt better than Spencer Rattler PERSON as your sleeper potential starting quarterback here. A lot of experience, very efficient, very smart, even just as a good backup, right? And then you get King. Got to mention Cast Tech in Detroit GPE, another Cast tech product. And going into this season, King was highly touted and potentially, you know, a second first day pick did not have a good year, struggled.Maybe, again, maybe he's a safety. So obviously the safety position was an emphasis here. Speed at linebacker, depth on the offensive line. Not exciting, but making this division more exciting as the Packers, the lions, the bears, and the Vikings ORG, all making moves and reforming their team in the new vision, but all in their own way. Yeah, you mentioned the name

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that draws my eye or Spencer Rattler. So Michael Pratt PERSON, yeah, Michael, get Michael Pratt. UDFA's not a lot here from the UDFA class.

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And some just were like that and just watching how it went down. You know, I'll throw out some love for Messiah Swanson PERSON, I guess. Like nobody that I're jumping off that I remember from the All Star Road Trip EVENT. So Bloom PERSON, I'll hand it to you.

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Trent A Jones PERSON. Hey, not many teams get their sixth offensive linemen in the NFL ORG, but Michigan ORG does. You get the Michigan ORG super backup. And Jarvie and Howard, former Syracuse ORG back, power speed, went to Alcorn State ORG.I think he rushed for over 2,000 yards at Alcorn State last year. And had a tremendous pro day. So physically looks the part of NFL ORG back. So, yeah, I mean, he can make this team over A.J. Dylan and Emmanuel Wilson PERSON.

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Yeah, here we go. Minnesota ORG. Here we go to wrap up the NFC North LOC. It's the audible draft recap. And it's J.J. McCarthy PERSON. Now they move up the one spot to get J.J.They make sure that Denver ORG has no chance to get him when Denver didn't really want him. And nobody else really did. Right.

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One thing that I've discovered in doing this is like, okay, there were three teams at least,

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and I'll get to it later, in on Bowenix PERSON. There were maybe five teams in on Michael Pennix. All right. And the Pennix PERSON pick does play into this. We will talk Atlanta ORG and I will defend that pick and maybe scold some people when we do Atlanta. Okay. But we have to bring up the Pennix PERSON pick here.But so Minnesota they get kind of their guy because I still believe that Drake May PERSON was their guy and certain people around the building, all these tie-in bloom, but like when the New England LOC people were telling me, and I said on this show, I don't know if I believe them,they're going to take Drake May PERSON. What's Minnesota ORG do to respond? Well, they would take J.J. McCarthy PERSON. And oh, man, Denver ORG would hate that unless they didn't. Just in talking to people during and then after the draft, it's like, okay, and I still like JJ PERSON. And I had him as a high second round graded player.So did Dane Bruegler PERSON. But man, a lot of people didn't. So Minnesota ORG, you got your guy? Question mark. Right.

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Okay.

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We'll get to the rest. We got a lot to talk about with JJ PERSON there. Dallas Turner, you know, an option as a, maybe the Atlanta ORG pick, although I don't want to say hate. I was told Bloom the Falcons strongly do not like Dallas Turner. Huh.

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So there you go.

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Why didn't they take Dallas Turner?

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Because they hate him.

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They weren't going to, yeah.

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Right, right.

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Kyrie Jackson, fourth rounder, Oregon GPE cornerback, Walter Rouse, Oklahoma offensive tackle in the sixth round. Will Reichard, Alabama GPE, place kicker. Kickard alert.

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Don't ask me about kickers, please. Michael Juergens, Wake Forest Center ORG. I didn't want to be rude when you asked me about the punter, but I was like, I don't care about punters or kickers.

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Anyway, Levi-Dren PERSON you up. I was teaming you up.

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Oh, okay, okay. Levi Drake Rodriguez, Texas A&M ORG, commerce, defensive tackle. Let's talk about this, which means we're talking about JJ and Dallas ORG.

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Yeah, and like you said, just from a narrative standpoint, what's interesting here is you say they got their guy because from all outward indications, they did try to get up to number three for drake may i mean i have i have not heard anything that contradicted that i haven't seen anybody say no that did not happen so awkward kind of hey hey j j mccarthy we gave up a fourth round pick we like you enoughto give up a fourth round pick for the match and i did think it was funny boy the sean payton again it's a denver show uh it's going to be interesting for you He's covering Sean Payton PERSON because he seemed a little too self-satisfied. Oh, yeah, we duped him into Kamoot trading up. That's like when you signal for a first down when you're down 27 points in the fourth quarter. You know, okay, yeah, okay, great. You got him to spend a pick. Oh, actually a rival on the other side of, and there's actually another team in your conference that actually got to benefit from that. But okay good good on you but look McCarthy PERSON is going to have greatstructure around him right I mean it's all built for him already so this is kind of like the Caleb Williams conversation and I'm not holding what McCarthy PERSON didn't do or didn't have the chance to do against him. I think the other good thing here is because they only give up a fourth round pick instead of three first round picks, which obviously was not going to ever happen. There's not much pressure to get him on the field. Sam Donald can play until week 17 or 18.And let's see what happens down the line. I think that they got their future quarterback at a pretty reasonable price. They got another Kirk Cousins type, honestly. And then they give up their fifth round pick in the third and fourth next year to move up for Turner PERSON. Look, a lot of people have as the number one defensive player on the board getting that player at number 17. Edge, the cost of edge. You just got Jonathan Greenard in free agency. Danale Hunter's gone. So you're revamping this edge rushing group with Turner PERSON.And what you like here is alignment with Brian Flores PERSON system. You know, Brian Flores PERSON system, there's the quarterback, go get the quarterback. And you're going to have help. You're going to have someone creating chaos. So your job is going to be easier. And you just let him loose.So you like that, although, again, you're paying from future draft capital to get him. You know, they gave up a pick in the Hawkinson PERSON trade. They get Jackson PERSON. Boy, here's an interesting guy. He quit football after high school. And then he got, ended up all the way Alabama GPE after that.He goes from quitting football to playing in Alabama GPE and then gets suspended from Alabama. He's almost 25 years old. But obviously, the world of football all keep seeing things in him, his length, his athleticism, to try to make him work as a defenderin a league that is more and more about the past. You get another pick they gave up in the Jalen Rager PERSON trade. You've got Rouse PERSON, a potential swing tackle. I like this stuff. This is stuff from Dame Bruegler's book, The Beast WORK_OF_ART. His grandfather scored the game-winning bucket for Loyola in the 1963 NationalChampionship game. This Loyola team was the one that broke the gentleman's agreement, making air quotes, that teams will not play more than two black players. They broke the agreement. So this is one of the, they were one of the trailblazers of integrating college basketball. His grandfather scored the game.Before Lorenzo Charles, there was Vic Rouse against Cincinnati ORG, scoring the game winning bucket in overtime on a tip-in to win the national championship, his grandson now, maybe a swing tackle for Minnesota ORG, a kicker. They gave up some picks for Dobbs and Mullins PERSON.So again, you know, quarterback, Yergan PERSON's potential center depth, Rodriguez, a developmental defensive tackle. But again, just like the Chicago ORG draft, this draft is going to define the Vikings for the next three or four years, partially because they paid assets from the future to make it happen.

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They can make it happen with the UDFAs ORG. Hey, somebody I'm excited about. It doesn't happen for every team, but it happened for this team. Trey Knox, former wide receiver before he got to south carolina he's tied in now uh has put on the weight that he needed to but he's a receiving weapon so you get a receiving weapon you get a tight end obviously that's going to alert alert alert anyone out there in crazy super deepdynasty formats. South Carolina tied in, Trey Knox PERSON is a player. I'm watching, Bloom PERSON.

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And they also got Gabriel Murphy, a lot of people, including Dame Bruegler PERSON, had him as the best undrafted player in terms of ranking on your big board going into the draft. A productive edge rusher, undersized but skilled. Maybe somebody they look at as a tweener, you know, too small to be a 4-3 defensive end, not necessarily all the skills we look for in a 3-4 outside linebacker. Interesting, too, his twin brother is also a UDFA signing in Miami GPE.I think probably the reason he fell out of the draft, or at least one of them is he was opposite Laotuatu PERSON, sorry. I'm going to get that eventually, correctly, one of these times. But, you know, I think maybe there's some skepticism how much was he producing because the

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offense was so focused on his running mate.

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And we're often running on the north and things looking up in both divisions.

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King of the North.

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We got AFC North ORG coming up next. It is the Audible ORG. He's Sigman Bloom PERSON. Follow him on Twitter at Sigman Bloom PERSON. I'm at Cisillami ORG saying, thanks for watching, everybody. Thanks for listening to this old school podcast right here.He's Sig PERSON. I'm Cis. We are the Audible ORG. Stay tuned. Stay tuned. Frosty.

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Let's go. Let's go. Keep it going. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Keep it going. Let's go. Yeah. Let's go. Let's go. Let's keep it going. Let's go.I am organized.

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And you know what? It's about me. It's about me.

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