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Hi, I'm Kirsten.

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And this is Mess Magnus.

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We're back, baby.

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Yes.

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We are so late that it's almost the next week, but it isn't.

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Okay?

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And that's all that matters. We're just in time. And honestly, had we recorded when we initially planned, we would not have how much to talk about. And now we have so much to talk about.

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Maybe some might say.

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And here's the thing, right?

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People will be like, don't procrastinate.

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It's not good to do things last minutes.

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I should go into Chicago. You should have recorded earlier in the week. Blah, blah, blah. Guess what? Procrastination always pays. Because every time mess magnets records early, we always miss out on stuff.When we don't record early, we got all the tea. And something is always going wrong. So the thing is is procrastination works. That's all kids.

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But I don't want to teach people that lesson because I like in university did one of my research papers.

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I researched, wrote, edited and submitted the paper in under 24 hours.

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I wrote my thesis.

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Master's level in two days.

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Yeah.

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I got an A and I've never had a proper work ethic since.

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Same. What do you mean?

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Who writes their master thesis in two days?

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Yeah. I didn't actually tell you and I'm not a four point.

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Listen, procrastination pays.

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That's all I'm saying.

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Listen, some people like their brains, I actually read up on this. It isn't just like a random thing. I read, like, something happens in your brain chemistry that when you're doing things last minute that, like, does not unlock, but like it does produce good results because of like the pressure.

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But not everyone. Just the people that can handle it. I do think that also is like a little bit of an ADHD thing oh could be yeah um but i'm not 100% sure on that

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and i'm not a medical doctor so don't yes my opinion on that but yeah i think that oil be

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very just kidding if the snake oil brand would sponsor us we we would. Listen. We can be bought.

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But no, I think like there's almost like the thrill of like maybe it won't work out.

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And then it does work out.

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That's like so. I feel like it's probably like people who have like an exhibition kink where it's like, oh, maybe we'll get caught. Yep.

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Some of that risk. That's very much me much me that's the problem it unfortunately always works out

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for me so what what can i do i think that's the thing it always works out until it doesn't

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and then you're like well shit but it's fine anyways we here. We have so much to talk about. I feel like we do have a new five-star rating since we last recorded.

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Yes.

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Jay Steff. Sorry for budgering not. It says my favorite mess. I love listening to hear their thoughts on only the most important issues of the day. It's a light part of a treat from my own mess.

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Oh, love it.

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Thank you.

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You're the best.

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We appreciate y'all.

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And again, we have not forgotten the live.

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It's just.

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Yes, we need to schedule it.

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It's just tough with travel happening for people, but we will have that scheduled

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soon. I, listen, I'm trying to not point fingers because it's not like I'm just like perfectly

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organized and I'm like presenting you with days. And you're just like no, no, no. Like both of us have not,

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because again, procrastination wins. Um, but this is our 100th episode of mess magnets.

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Is it actually?

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It is.

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You lie.

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I'm serious.

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This was episode 100.

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We're actually terrible.

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You didn't, I feel like I told you this a week ago.

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No, we had this whole conversation.

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I did not put it together.

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That's what I am mentally.

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Listen, you're not here to do math.

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That's what I also, I was going to say.

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I need to.

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Yeah.

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Oh, my.

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Yeah.

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So this is our 100th episode, which is very exciting.

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We made it.

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We're here.

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I feel like I need to add.

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It's Yeah

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It's very exciting Listen

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Why did I forget Because every mess magnet episode is so much fun

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And cool and

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Ridiculous That 100 is just part of that But thank you to all of you For letting us like get to 100. Period.

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Like, we wouldn't have 100 episodes if we weren't getting the five-star ratings and reviews and the downloads and all of the love. We say it every single time. And I think every podcaster says this, but I think we're the only ones that are right about it. The messengers, fans of this podcast, are the best fans of any podcast.Period.

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And I can't wait to meet y'all in Chicago.

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I'm so jealous.

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I know.

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I still have your bracelet.

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I need to give to you.

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It's fine. It's fine.

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I'll just go out.

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Tori did make me a mess magnet's friendship bracelet. Did I ever show you that? Yes. Yes, you did. Yeah, super cute.

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So at least I thought that going for it.

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Tori is amazing.

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And speaking of Tori, she is going to join me for next week's episode while you're away

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traveling in a few different states.

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Listen, actually, yes, it will be a few different states.

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But it's fine. Whatever.

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Yeah, I'm excited. I will be in Chicago next week. I'll be seeing the messengers, you know, in person. It's going to be messy. I can't wait.

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This week is the Met Gala. So we will be talking about that, which will be really fun.

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But that's not what we're talking about this time today we've got different mess to talk about should we get into it let's okay let's

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all right the thing is we sent in the cover art i just want to make it clear. And the title, a week, like,

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days ago, days and days ago. I will, so I just wanted to say that. And if we were doing it

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right now, I am messy. And I think I would have put Jay Cole as the cover and made like

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business decision mess as our title. that's what happened here all right

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because we were I was on this podcast mad at J. Cole being like oh you suck why did you do this

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no I take it all back baby because we are in for it Meg did this and I love her because

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Megan the Salian has was not okay push a tea like

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whatever and meek mail we know okay but this year 2024 cat william said right truth will be

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set you free meg desalian said great now let me get drake's ass real quick for his fake body

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for him cosplaying you know and being a culture vulture,

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et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. All right. I don't want to want people to forget that Meg started this. This year. Yes. Like, obviously,

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Drake has had haters.

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Yes. But Drake has also had overwhelming

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support. And so this year, 2024, is a big year for the Drake haters. And I think if you go back on this very podcast, there are many times when I talk about hating Drake and praying on his downfall and maybe not getting people being like, no, don't. Like, we love Drake.No, I am a hater. If Drake has one hater, it's me. If Drake has no haters, I'm dead. Correct.

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Oh my God. No, I love it. Okay. And I also want to say again at the start of the pod, we are not like rap historians. So we're not going to get everything correct.That's what we're trying to give you like the high level timeline. Yeah. I'm putting Chappelle on the clock at recap kickback. Period.

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Like a full on breakdown because you all like a deep dive. Yes. Like an actual. He said he was like, I need to bring out the whiteboard. Yes. Yes, you do.And we would like to see it. Yeah. So I, we were recording a podcast. And we would like to see it. Yeah.

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So I, we were recording a podcast yesterday, Kirsten, as this was happening.

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And I literally, like, while we were like, was like, no, you need to do this.

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Like, I need this. And someone has to do the detail breakdown. Miss Magnets got you on the, like, how did we get here? No.

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Like from a pop culture standpoint, where did this come from?

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And like a light top level analysis.

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Yes.

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So you can feel confident talking to the people in your life about this without looking like a total fool.

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Oh my God.

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That's more tagging.

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But we are not like the experts going into every single thing. Correct. It's too much. And we are not like the experts going into every single thing.

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Correct.

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It's too much and we are not like the qualified professionals to give everything.

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But I do think that if you are looking for like a pop culture perspective of all of this,

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we're probably going to be the only like straight up pop culture podcast that goes into like heavy detail on

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this at all right so like yes we're sitting in the middle and we're happy to do it and we own that

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we will likely make some mistakes but we listen we have to talk about this like at the point

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where rap beef is the only thing I am seeing on my twitter feed and every

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single tic-tok i scroll past is i hate the way that you walk the way that you talk like that this is

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this is what everyone was talking about this is like the it's almost a monoculture it's almost

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taylor swift level of like in the atmosphere um She's been in monoculture, right?

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So like, just like that kind of vibe.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%.

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Speaking of Taylor Swift, okay, there's very few things in this world that being a

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Taylor Swift fan prepared before.

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Analyzing lyrics and looking for mess and music is like the one thing, okay?

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That, but I can't even fight you on that.

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I will one million percent give you that.

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Okay.

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So yes, I just, I feel like I needed to get, we need to get that disclaimer.

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Also, everything, almost everything we're saying is alleged. Some things have a little bit more legs than others, but it is still alleged. And one day, everything is going to come out. I'm sure in the next week, right? Someone is actually going to do the work and do all of it. We're recording this the day after.

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Okay. In the morning. Like this happened last night.

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And we're on the West Coast. So it's really morning for us. Exactly. So stop this. All right. If you had issues, I'm deading it right now.All right. Cool.

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So now let's get into what the F is going on.

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Yes.

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All right. So in case you're living under the rock or you're Omer, you're like, what's going on? Because why did Omer tweet you that today?

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I, well, because I, so I tweeted as someone who's been praying for Drake's

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downfall, this is a great day and Omer said, why do you mean? You have to remember. And if we're like from like

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Omer, he is

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from Survivor. Yes. And so you have to remember too, Omer's from the greater Toronto area. So, you know, the six, that's Drake territory. And so he's like, what do you mean?And I was like, listen to my name is. D.

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So that's what I needed. Since I saw that, I was like, hopefully he's this thing so I can give him his lashing. I'm just kidding. Let's be clear.

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He's all this. He's not. So anyway, the point is Drake and Kendrick Lamar and Jay Cole were in a feud.

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We talked about this a few episodes ago about when Jay Cole had dropped out, clowning him.

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Well, we're stupid.

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And J. Cole is the only smart person here.

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Jay Cole said, actually, I am not going to beef with a Pulitzer Prize winner.

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And I think that that's beautiful. That's the thing. And here's the tea. A Scorpio and a Gemini are in a fight. Let's just leave them.

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Don't get into it. Let's stay out of it, you know. Yeah. But yeah. And so we talked about it already like a few episodes ago. People could go in for you explaining all that to me.

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But obviously what we talked about before was Kendrick being on for boomens like that. And then Drake's response on tour

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and all of, and Drake releasing pushups. And then the J-Col, like releasing, then unreleasing,

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then like pulling out of it is kind of what we talked about. And so the place where we would have to start would be Drake releasing Taylor Made Freestyle on April 24th of 2034th.

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Correct. Yes. And just a quick thing. this stuff goes back years.

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Okay, this is not something new.

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They have hated each other for a long, long time.

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All right, let's just make that clear. And funny enough, they were on songs together. But then first person shooter, right, came out. And that's where all of it went to hell. But either way, let's come. Okay.We have dropped push-ups. Drake drops it. And all the earlier versions were leaked online, right? It's very much a response to like that, which is Kendrick Lamar's first.

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Great.

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It also taught. And then Taylor Made's first. Great. It also taught, and then Taylor Maid gets dropped. Yes. And when push-ups gets released, Drake also released Taylor-made, like I said, which is another disc trackat Kendrick Lamar or K-DOT. If people are like, oh, what's K-Doc? That's Kendrick Lamar. And people are saying that the song featured AI generated vocals imitating Tupac and Snoop Dog. It's which like, I'm sorry.That is so disgusting.

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It's so weird.

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Like why are we doing dumb ass shit like this?

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And it's like, to me, what is so alarming about AI right now is like I should be doing the

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jobs that humans don't want to do like data entry and like typing not creative things like

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a verse on a rap song yes it's just it's ridiculous uh and from that then of course a Tupac's estate

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does talk about this like the unauthorized equally dismaying, a Tupac's estate does talk about this.

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Like the unauthorized, equally dismaying use of Tupac's voice against Kendrick, you know,

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who is given nothing where to respect to Tupac, you know, is like an insult, basically.

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And Drake then takes it down.

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Yeah, because he was going to get sued by Tupac's estate.

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Correct.

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And as he should. Okay, idiot. Then this is where it goes to hell in a handbasket. I can't believe this.Like they were literally together. But anyway, also I want to say side note, Billboard has a really great article.

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Doing the whole breakdown of the

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beef. It's just, it's too much. We're not. Going back to like 2013, like the origins of all of this.

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So, okay. So now. And then Drake also talked about it, by the way, on tour, right? Like there have been a little bit here and there. So now.

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And also, sorry, just like one more point about the Drake disis there is like one of the

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specific disses is saying that oh yeah like

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I understand why you haven't responded because you don't want to compete with Taylor Swift's new album

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because Drake did push his last release so that it wouldn't come out on the same day as Midnights

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which was Taylor's last album before Torture Poets Department so it's like because there is there is

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some swiftly stuff coming up. So just want to

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keep that in for contact. Correct. And it's called tailor. Anyway. So then, now fast forward to

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April 30th. This is like what we're going to try to like zoom in on. Okay. So April 30th,

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Kendrick strikes back.

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And strike back he did with a six-minute long song called Euphoria.

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The Hater's anthem.

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It is nuts.

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Okay, it's like my favorite thing about it is the hate the way you talk because he really is a hater to his core.

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Okay.

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And it's just like very clear he has hated Drake for a long time.

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Period.

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He has had animosity for Drake for a long time. And he just needed Drake to open his mouth so that he could go nuclear on him.

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Correct.

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So there and the highlights of this,

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because the best thing I will say, which is why I, the next songs have gotten even more lethal. It's Kendrick said,

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but don't tell no lies about me and I won't tell no truth about you. And then he alludes in euphoria to,

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what's the like PC way? Not at a PC, but Drake's dealing with underage people.

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And he's saying, I'm not going to talk about it. And that's a public service. Yeah. And it's like for, if people are curious about the allegations towards Drake and

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underage girls, there is a lot out there.

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There's a lot of like publicly confirmed information about like texting girls when they're young and like dating someone the minute they turn 18 kind of vibes.

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But I'm pretty sure beyond the blinds did an episode about Drake blind items. And the items are extremely alarming.

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episode about Drake blind items and the items are extremely alarming and I have interacted with people who kind of independently verified some of that information that I've seen in blind items.

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So like obviously it's just my opinion.

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I don't have facts.

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Well, there's also a Twitter thread. I can't find they're at right now where they've actually posted all the receipts. Again, we're saying it's alleged, but like there's also a Twitter thread. I can't find their at right now where they've actually posted all the receipts. Again, we're saying it's alleged, but like there's receipts. That's all I'm going to.

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Yeah, like it's alleged. It's our opinion, but we don't have the verified facts.

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Like we wouldn't be going into like a court of law with this kind of thing. Yep. So just what it's it is what it is. So the thing is He names the title The title of the Dishakis Euphoria Funny enough Drake is a producer on the show Euphoria And it's a show about teenagers

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And it's a show

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About teenagers Doing things teenagers Are not doing Did you watch Euphoria No I haven't It's And it's a show about teenagers doing things teenagers should not be doing. Did you watch you four years, Sasha? No, I haven't. It's so much more wild.

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Yeah. Yeah. So it's just I just want to make that.

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And of course, like there's more analysis, but I find those like to be the craziest pieces. Well, and did you know that Euphoria premiered on June 16th, 16? Just for the right.

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Just in case you wanted to know that information. Oh, my God. Yeah, so that, I love that. Okay. And also, Euphoria is right, like the idea of, like, that the change in mood, people are saying that it very much could betying into like how it starts very chill right there is a sample of the whiz in there where um the whiz himself is like oh i'm going to fraud all along kind of deal if you play the opening

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backwards it's the way not backwards backwards. Oh, my God.

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And then also right, it gets a little bit more aggressive later. There's a beat switch. It's just the rapping gets way more intense. Love it.

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And of course, the song dropped on a Tuesday.

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Funny enough,

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there's pictures of Kendrick meeting Beyonce and doing dinner with her day I think a day before or days before this so I'm also thinking that this drop is crazy but Beyonce was like

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just drop it the world will stop

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yeah just do it it's fine

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because yeah Tuesday is not really like a standard day

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for music to come out correct

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and yeah like

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i say everything and the whiz sample is everything you say about me is true i'm a phony so good so then um

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okay so then the opening line is right like i calculate you're not as calculated i can even predict your

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angle now i just want to say,

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this is crazy

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for what happens in

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Meet the Grams.

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Mm-hmm. That's what I just just hold that. Okay, everyone. Then, of course, he talks about, like, how you're fabricating stories on the family front, blah, blah, blah, blah. A pathetic master manipulator. I can smell the tailson you now. Fine. Then he talks about, like, the YMN Melly, blah, blah, a pathetic master manipulator. I can smell the tails on you now. Fine. Then he talks about like the YMN Melly, which, you know, do the research on him, of course, but like a lot of insider issues there. There's the push a tea line, which listen, push a tea is the reason we know Adonis exists. Drinks.

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Well, and exactly right.

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Like, that's what's so funny about all of this is it's like, Kendrick wouldn't be able to even have some of these bars about Drake being such a horrible father, except for a previous

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rap beef.

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It's just how embarrassing.

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Every time a rap beef, like,

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Drake is having a weekend.

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Well,

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it just seems like honestly, like, Drake, maybe you should get your own household under sorts before you start lashing out at other people.

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What do you say that? I'm on team. If you're going to be a deadbeat, just own it so that you're not getting embarrassed in rap beefs

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well yeah and one of the two you can't be both yeah exactly but like he hasn't like oh no like i'm

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actually a good dad and it's like well don't know about that just be future because have

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anyway that's all I'm saying.

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Why was Justin Thompson trending yesterday?

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And it was for basketball. I couldn't believe it. So then he also questions Drake's fatherhood, of course. And then there's a Drake's like 20 versus one line. But he make, but Kendrick says not.That's your ghost writer. And of course, he then talks about the young women. And I might, okay, I don't want to say this is my favorite because there is casual homophobia, casual transphobia and all of this. I want to make that very clear that that is very true. I don't accept it, but it is part of unfortunately currently rat beef, period.It has been. It's really unfortunate. But my favorite is when he says, there's two bad bitches on stage and it's you and sexy right on stage. I loved it. I think that is so funny because I do think that Drake gives like Instagram baddie.Yeah. That's what, I mean, that Drake gives like Instagram baddie. Yeah.

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That's what I mean, that's why Meg had the lyric about him having a BBL.

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Yes.

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So like it's all adding up.

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God, it's so funny.

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And then of course, he's alluding to Drake being a snit and that, you know,

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saying like Drake and Jake Cole kiss in on stage.

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It's crazy, all right?

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And there's so much more. So I would recommend at on Twitter at Jaw Talks Music. And that is like a 50 like a plus tweet thread on breaking down each thing.

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Because it's like what you need to understand is that every single line has a lot of meaning and often multiple meanings on each line.

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The writing is just so tight.

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Correct. And good. And like, again, like, I wouldn't personally not start a beef with someone who has a Pulitzer for their writing. Like, that's just not my journey.

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I, but here's the thing. I comparing them, Kendrick is lyrically like in another stratosphere. Yes. But I enjoy like, right, but it's not to say like Drake's music isn't good and that he could, he can come up with good,um, good catchy like one line.

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A little help. Yes.

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And write the rest, which again is fine. Like most artists don't write

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all their own lines. Like I'm not out here being like, oh, whoa. No, I agree. Like, whatever. I don't care if people have ghost writers or not. It's just like

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if you're going to come for

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Kendron Lamar, like you have to expect

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like it's like mess with the bull. You get the correct and again this person hates even heat like if someone's so well spoken hated me this much no it's over you'd never see me again that's what I'm saying like it's just curtains and J. Cole again smart man. Listen,

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apologies to J. Cole.

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We really clout on you and you were right all along.

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Yeah, we're the clown here.

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Okay.

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And yeah, so again, there's way more breakdowns by we're trying to do this high level. Then he drops 616 in L.A. And if folks are like, well, where did that come from? What does that mean? Blah, blah, blah. Drake is known, right, for many times to do the like 6 a.m. here in location.

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3 a.m. here, blah, blah, blah, right?

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It's a known thing.

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And, yes, go ahead.

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Oh, I was going to say one more thing about Euphoria, but I lost the ball completely.

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So it's gone. It's fine. It's all good.

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But yeah, Kendrick said, and also I've got a few more points to make about you. Oh, right.

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No, sorry, I remember now.

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After Euphoria came out, Drake

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posted his Instagram story,

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the scene from 10 Things I Hate About You

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Where Matt is reading the poem at the end that's like,

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I hate the way you look at me, I hate the way you blah, blah, blah.

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But at the end, it's like most of all I hate that I don't really hate you at all. Like, I love you. Basically being like, whoa, we get a Kendrick, you're in love with me.

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Which, like, is a funny response response but also is just like literally not like no Kendrick hates you

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oh my again I just feel like him using a teen film to make the response also stop this you know

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what I'm saying but again I do think that Drake has more like

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maybe a little bit more quotable not anymore I think now like I hate the way you are that is the line

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of the century right like he hates him but before that I remember the like is that a world tour

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or your girls tour right it's good it's catchy that's all for me i feel like that's what

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drake is and that's the thing too like i feel like and maybe i'm wrong here and if i am please tell me but

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like i feel like drake is more of a pop artist yeah 100% and that's why they're dragging his ass

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and like again like that's fine but it's also just like he's in a totally

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different playing field

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yep sorry he's all the like

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Indian boys in Oklahoma

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but yeah

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Drake is a pop artist what every Indian guy has that Drake haircut I'm telling you and I'm just like why do all of y'all look like wannabe drinks it's like a thingsorry it's just I've never been to Oklahoma so I don't know what the telling you and I'm just like why do all y'all look like wannabe drinks? It's like a thing.

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I'm sorry, it's just I've never been to Oklahoma, so I don't know what the Indian boys in Oklahoma are up to.

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I'm telling you.

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I mean, I also feel like the Drake haircut is not like, I feel like it's not even like a signature Drake hair like it's just a haircut.

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Wait, I'm telling you I just feel

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like the way South Asian men are so obsessed with Drake it's out of control

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grow up and be a fan of Kendrick Lamar instead well I don't know about that he ain't clean either

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but nobody is like clean but I feel like Kendrick mostly uses his power for good versus evil.

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He's not perfect.

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He had perfect.

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Who is a known?

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Yeah, exactly.

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Like, he's not perfect.

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And he was just talking about art.

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Anyway, let's just not.

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Let's be serious.

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But it's just shout out to all the Dacey boys that are just struggling

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because Drake is their entire personality.

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That's all I'm saying.

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And if y'all think I'm lying,

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you don't know enough Dacys. That's what I'll tell you.

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Go to Oklahoma.

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No, it's not just Oklahoma.

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That was my sample size because I didn't want to. You know, you're trying not to generalize, which is fair. But it's the truth.Anyway,

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so Kendrick, okay, so back to 616 in L.A. Kendrick thinks, you know, DJ academic, I just, I hate him so much. I don't want to say his name. He is compromised, quote, unquote. We know DJ AK, he sucks, Okay. He has so many issues. I don't know.That's a whole other podcast. And he's talking about how like he's untrustworthy. So and the line is, yeah, somebody's lying. I could see the vibes on AK. Even he looking compromise. Let's feel the layers back.Because it seems like Kendrick has brought him into the full due to his relationship with Drake, right? And, um, like he just tries to get involved in beef and he, um, goes live to, you know, do all of the dick riding for Drake. Um, yes.

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It's just, I don't know.

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I just, I'm trying to find the nicer way to say that. That's why I'm like stumbling from what I actually feel. But yeah, just he sucks. Okay.And Kendrick is like, yeah, you've trying, you know, like, it's just he's messy. A.K.'s getting hits here and there as well. And he, AK, is the reason, right, push-ups, the non-leaked version had come out.So he's getting dis now. Then next is there's a mole. This is a big one.

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There is a possibility of a mole in the OVO crew,

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which is like so wild.

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This is crazy because are you, the thing says, are you finally ready to play have you ever?

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Let's have, let's see. Have you ever thought of OVO was working for me? What is this espionage spy shit? And the reason you need-

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Literally, you have to hold on to this is because of what's coming later. What is this espionage spy shit? And the reason you need- Corporate espionage. Literally. You have to hold on to this is because of what's coming later.

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And if folks know, Push-A-T weekend, Kendrick have all warned him about leaks inside his own camp. And Push-a-T-T-I think went on Joe Budden's podcast, yeah, to tell him, you know, that about who told him about Drake having a kid in the first place. So then third is Kendrick also, you know, trolls Drake for coming at his connections to Taylor Swift. Where on Drake's push-ups, right? Like you said, he was referencing Taylor's fan base. He said the Swifties.Fast forward to today, Kendrick is talking about how Drake and connected those dots by talking, allegedly, talking about Swift's main producer, like he said, Jack Antonoff, who did produce 616 in L.A. Which is like crazy.

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Because that is not Jack Antonoff's genre. Right. You know? like that is not Jack Antonoff's, uh, genre.

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Right.

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You know?

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Like that is not where Jack Antonoff is at home. So, but one thing about Jack Antonoff is he will jump into a beef.

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Like he is still like he'll do an interview and like he'll talk about yay and be like, yeah,

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no one ever told that man to shut up or like just like out of nowhere just like shooting the the strays even though that beef like hasn't really been

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that big of a deal in a long time and it's also like Kendrick Lamar did um a rem not a remix

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like a version of the song bad blood on Taylor Swift's album as well,

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which when Taylor Swift performs Bad Blood, the crowd yells back Kendrick's line during the tort.

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So it's just, it's very funny.

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But, and I find it funny because I think when you're a real hater, like Kendrick is,

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which is what I aspire to be like he's the final boss, you know, the real haters.

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I aspire to be this petty.

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When I'm like, I'm getting people that literally don't even do the genre to come on and do stuff for me just so I can have the, you know, the credits and the T and the receipts and the screenshot.

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So I love that.

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Then Kendrick, of course, named drops Zach Pia,

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who is a socialite, you know, influence or whatever,

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and accuses Drake, right, of using bots. Because Drake allegedly conspired with Zach to, you know, talk shit about Kendrick. And he also talked about Dizzy, like you're using Twitter bots. Well, and like, because it Dizzy like you're using Twitter bots.

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Well, and like, because it has been like the Twitter bots for all of these rappers have been like out of control the past at least six months. Like there's all the push at T bots, the Metro Boomin bots.

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Like there's a lot of those bots.

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And they're, and they're not like, it's not like pro Metro Boomin bots.

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Like, pro.

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Like, it's like, mm-hmm. I could see if Drake bought all these bots to be spamming hateful shit.

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Listen, him and the royals. One thing they're going to do, buy the bot.

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I wish we could afford bots to like big up mass making it.

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Okay, when? Who's doing it for us? So then, of course, the big three comes back again. So Drake, you know, potentially also talks about the big three, which is himself, Drake, and Jay Cole. Which, like, come on. Jay Z is still rapping, right?Like all these rappers are still out. Like, what do you mean? So you guys are the big, anyway, let me stop.

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Yeah.

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It's fair enough.

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It's just because the line is trifecta, money, morals, and culture, which like money is

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Drake, morals, maybe is J. Cole and culture is Kendrick. But you know, I could see either way where Kendrick's morals, J. Cole is culture. I don't know. Either way, he says like, that's my leisure. Some rap fans suggest, right, that money obviously, blah, blah, blah. So it's just, I find it very interesting because then Kendrick also thinks you know like hey he talks about the Elohimyou know which he's maybe calling himself

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God

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you know and there's like Elohim maybe because Drake is of Jewish faith blah blah sure if Drake is Jewishhow do I kindly say this? There are many ways to practice Judaism. I'm not sure that Drake is a practicing Jew. Does not make him any less Jewish. I'm just, and the second thing, stop using anti-Semitism to talk about Drake. There are so many. Look at Kendrick's other stuff, right? There are so many ways to drag Drake. Okay. Anti-Semitism and this weird like Jews run the world shit is ridiculous. If you find out the actual reasons why a lot of like European Jews, first of all, you don't even want to know how Jews became white. Let's talk aboutthis. There's a lot of assault that happened with Europeans for this to happen. Okay, it was not a choice. And then secondly, and do they benefit from whiteness? Yes. That is not up for debate either. But anyway, Jews of color like me exist. Number two. And number three, saying like Jews run the world when back in the day, the only jobs people were willing to give Jews were the quote unquote dirty jobs,

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which was the money, the, you know, the trade, whatever, blah, blah, blah. So it was literally like,

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oh, these are these are the things that through like Christianity were not allowed to do. So that

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we'll make that word. It's the only thing that Jewish people are allowed to do. And then we're going to shit on them for doing it. And then now that those industries have become like powerful industries, it's like, oh, wow, well, Jews run the world.

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No, it's crazy.

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Yeah.

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How about that? Okay. It's more that this is a classist issue. This is an elitist issue. But this is not, stop making it a Jewish issue.

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Period. Don't, don't play me on that. Like, I'm not the one. Uh, because it's just, it's getting

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weird with like the anti-Semitism. The casual anti-Semitism. Like, and people on my timeline are

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retweeting it, which I'm like about to stop blocking people because I'm getting here.

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I honestly, like, as you should, because like literally fuck that. And for it to be like, it is the year 2024. We have a lot more historical knowledge than in the past. Google is literally free. Go look up the origins of some of the shit you're saying and that you feel so comfortable reposting. And when you see where that comes from, maybe you'll think a little bit differently. Like, just enough.Yeah.

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That's how I've agreed. It's just, it's ridiculous. And then, of course, then the Al Greene. Oh, and sorry. For another reason why maybe he used God's name is because I could also think that Kendrick believes he's a Hebrew-Israelite. So that could be another reason.It doesn't have to be anti-Semitism, you know, not, sorry, doesn't have to be a dissent Drake being Jewish either. So just I want to say that.

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But it's just I wanted to use that as a way to be like, stop being weird.

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It needed, it needed to be said.

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People needed to be told to stop that. Exactly. And then, of course, the Al Green song is sampled, right? Where the wonderful thing love is. And the reason that this is significant is because Drake's uncle was a guitarist and songwriter for Al Green.

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Nepo baby.

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Well, yeah. And then it's like literally your own family being. and songwriter for Al Green. Nepo baby. Yeah.

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And it's like literally your own family being used against.

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Yes.

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Which, listen, a Kendrick Lamar staple at this point.

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Because the closing mention of Michael Jackson, right?

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Where in his initial verse on the Metro, unlike that, basically, is that he rhyme, you know,

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and he talks about 616 in LA's final bar.

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He says, ask what Mike would do unlike that.

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He says that.

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And then here he talks about how basically Prince career exceeded Michael Jackson's, but both were iconic. And since Drake tied Michael Jackson's record for most number one single, it seems like he's trying to, you know, Drake is trying to be MJ, but Prince is better.

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And he's talking about just how like Prince outlives Michael Jack. Okay.

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Okay.

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Literally.

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Mm-hmm.

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That's so bad.

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Bad.

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Like everyone's getting whacked at this point.

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Fairly. He's like dead or alive.

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I don't care.

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You will get your lashes.

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And everyone's dying is what it feels like.

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And then of course, the main event, family matters.

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It came out last night.

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And we're just like, yeah, this was anticipated.

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Wow, exciting, amazing. Okay. I listened to it. I felt like this is like a classic Drake, like a bop. You know, in that like, oh, I'm like excited. I'm like sweet. Some bars really hit well, blah, blah, oh, I'm like excited. I'm like, sweet.There's some, some bars really hit well, blah, blah, blah, right? Like, it was cute. It's very much, again, a Drake song, I felt.

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Yeah, I feel like that's the best way to describe like a Drake song. It's like, it's cute, not hot.

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Yes, yes.

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Okay, and I will be with you.

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Some, like I said, I like a lot of the lyrics, but currently, lately I've been feeling like Drake has been like really corny. And I'm not, like, I haven't listened to his new music in a while. But, you know, when Drake says like they miss the old me, girl don't tempt me. No, I'm tempting right now. Okay.I feel like Drake brought a knife to a gunfight. Yes. So, of course, Drake taught, and again, I think that he tried with family matters. Because he starts it with, like, you mentioned my seed, not deal with his dad. I got to go bad, bad, bad, okay? Then there's a good amount of shots that are taken.He starts with dragging Kendrick and Whitney Alfred's relationship. And he says, you know, don't go back to your hood and plant no money trees. Which is, you know, Kendrick Lamar'smoney tree that came on in 2012. And yeah, you hate the girls. I fuck, but I know what you mean. You know, and he's basically being being like I've been with all kinds of women and you only like white women blah blah shut up that's so crazy and then things get a little

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bit more crazy because he says yeah sorry sorry it's also just like so ridiculous for it to be like it's at the talk about the women that Drake is interested in is that they are underage girls' children.

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And then he's like, oh, well, but like, you only date white women as if that's an equivalent.

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Correct.

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All right. And not only that, it's so funny that Drake is known allegedly, allegedly, allegedly for talking to underage women. The most vulnerable population of younggirls are black girls. It is known that black girls disappear much higher rates

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than any other girls. And black girls are like much more likely

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to be treated as if they were adults even though they're not adults and hypersexualized everything hyper sexualized just at like extreme high risk compared to other populations of younger so it's just really like what you're saying is not doing what you think is doing, Drake. Yeah. Like, enough.

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Not me. Leave the underage girls alone.

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And there would be so many, like, you know,

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girls, like Miami girls, I'm sure of age that would be like, ready to, you know, do what. Like, like, stop. There's a lot.

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There are a lot of women who would be. Women, happy to do pretty much whatever Drake asked them to do.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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And so it's like, it's hard because you're like, well, damn, you don't need, like,

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not that anyone like would need to do it.

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Like, I'm trying to think of the right way to say it.

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But it's literally like you have all of the options in the world and you're like you know what I want a child disgusting gross okay and then of course the he now brings up the children and this is when we've completely lost the plot.

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Because now Drake has opened himself up to everything.

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Because Drake says, why, you know, you never hold your son. You tell him, say, cheese. We would have, we could have left out the kids out of this, but don't blame me. And basically, he then goes on to suggest that Lamar's children, one of them is actually fathered by Dave Free, who has his, who been Kendrick Lamar's creative partner.

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And again, as you said earlier on this very podcast, Sasha, if he would just own that he's a deadbeat, yes. It wouldn't be able to impact him. But it's obviously where like he wants to have his cake and eat it too. But like.

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And it's just not happening. And then of course, in Euphoria Lamar, Nanche. Not Lamar. What? Lamar. Oh my God.

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Yeah. It's kind of.

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I like it. It's like journalists when they go by surname. Yeah. Oh my God. Kendrick Lamar. It's kind of, I like it. I like it. It's like journalists when they go by surname. Yeah. Oh, my God. Anyway, Kendrick, like, name checks a Toronto Chinese food restaurant, New Ho King. First of all, who is going to New Ho King tomorrow?Send me a picture. And he talks about that. So in the video for Family Matters, Drake goes to the restaurant. And he says, Kendrick just opened his mouth. Someone go hand him a Grammy right now.Where is your uncle at? Because I want to talk to the man of the house. Now, again, I could see why this is transphobic. I will say that because allegedly, or someone I read this on Twitter,again, could be lies. I don't't know but that Kendrick's on transitioned to a man.

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Okay yeah so I thought that was an interesting line and in the music video for for Family Matters he is using the car, or similar car, that was in Mad City, the van from Mad City, in good kid.

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And Drake's crushing it.

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I also want to say, if that's true about Kendrick's uncle and that the line was intended to be some sort of got you for having a trans man in your family.

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As if I couldn't hate Drake more.

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You know? Like I thought I had reached the limit.

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But that's like, now I'm at a 10 out of death. Again, I hate the way that you walk, the way that you talk, the way that you sneak this.

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Like, absolutely not.

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And then, of course, a season desist is for hoes, basically saying like he never told Kendrick that, you know, sent a season desist.

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Um, you called Tupac's estate and beg them to sue me.

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Take that shit down.

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I don't think that Tupac's estate needed any outside influence

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to do that. Like that's so ridiculous to try and say, oh, no,

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Kendra had to beg for it. Stop it. It's ridiculous.

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And then what's crazy is like he talked, again, talks about his kids. And then he talks about how, uh, Drake talks about how Kendrick Lamar, you know, has allegedly or not, yeah, allegedly, because Kendrick has denied it on the breakfast club, I believe. So allegedly that he hired a crisis management team for committing domestic violence on his partner.And there is, like, people found her, like, posts, Whitney's post on Instagram. and it's a cryptic it could be alluding to domestic violence it couldn't be but here's the thing everyone Drake should not be talking about nothing Mr. Free Tory Lane should not be talking about no domestic

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violence and again the line is messy I want to say that the The line is good because he says that when you hit or fight, basically, your, you know, partner, your baby

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mama, Whitney, is it self-defense because you're at the same height? I think that's a funny line. It's a horrible thing.

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But it's a good line.

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You know what? Call someone short, that's valid. Drake can't relate because he would never interact with his baby good line you know what call someone short that's valid Drake can't relate because he would never interact with his baby mama you know yeah just pretend she doesn't exist correct well listen

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that's the only one we know about and then again I do think that there were a lot of good

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lines but again they were just cute I felt and somewhere I was like oh okay like that was my reaction to some of them. But this was very short-lived.

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Immediately overshadow.

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Okay. Remember how I told y'all that there was a mole? Because immediately, Kendrick released Meet the Grams. And when I tell you, I would not listen to this song more than once, because I feel like it is crazy.And it is so dark. And it ridiculous but Kendrick won I am what else I want to make that clear

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Kendrick said it's over yeah we're done with like I'm not messing around with your cute little

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songs it's he really hates him and he's like I want you to be he's literally like I don't want you on this planet anymore

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yeah and

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like I'll do whatever it takes

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yeah and when I tell you this is the craziest shit of my life

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because he drops it okay and then I'm like people are like oh Drake has a daughter I can't buy and I'm like what what to me that's not even the craziest part of this song. Y'all are burying the lead, baby. Because meet the grams.If you look at the cover photo, it's literally, allegedly, allegedly, somehow he's saying that, right,

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alluding to the moles, somehow someone got a suitcase from Drake's dad, Dennis. And that's where he got all the stuff.

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And it's, yeah, it's all, it's all, like, photos.

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And there's, like, photos of Drake's prescriptions and that kind of thing.

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And also, there's on there.

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There's also one of them is a Zolpidam, which is, it's a sleeping pill.

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It's Ambien.

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But Ambien, you know, it's a sleep aid, you know.

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But it's also the most common date rape drug in Korea.

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Why did I think that? Yes, because I was like, I was going to ask you about it. So I'm so glad you brought that up. Because that's what I would think about. Again, nine of people talking about that part. Interesting.And again, like, we don't know. We don't know nothing.

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And the thing is, this could all be Photoshop and I don't care.

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We've said that on Messman. Listen, again, if it's fake, but it's a good story, we love it on Messman.

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That part.

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But somehow, I don't think it's fake because, again, in the previous two tracks,

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Kendrick is alluding to having a mull in Drake's camp that even the people working on Drake's

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team want his downfall, that like everybody is rooting for Drake's downfall.

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And so dumbness just kind of adds a little fuel to that fire.

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Correct.

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And I will say Meg already talked about this.

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Everyone says that he is BBL Drake.

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And again, like, good for Drake. If that's the procedure he wanted to have to feel to get his ass.

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Yes. Dad surgery. Like do it. Like you can afford it. You can do it safely. It's like, like there are procedures where I'm going to be like, damn, nobody should do that. Like, you can afford it. You can do it safely. Um, it's like, there are procedures where I'm

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going to be like, damn, nobody should do that. Like, again, like the Bucal fat that we talked about, um,

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as well. I just saw someone on my TikTok this week who is 38 years old posting their

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facelift recovery. No, you do not need facelift in your 30s. Like, that's ridiculous. You're going to,

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like, because again, the facellift lasts like 10 to 15 years.

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So they're going to keep like doing it. By the time this woman is 70, she's not going to have

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face left to lift. So like unnecessary procedures that are like super hard. And like liposuction

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is one of the most risky plastic surgeries. Like people die getting like there's their stuff

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where I'm going to be like no but like oh b b bm whatever like

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you can afford it and you can pay for good doctors to do it safely like and you know he has the

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access to the best people so like it's fine anyway there's all but yeah and then there's a mayback gloves

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um then there's uh jewelry receipts because in in family matters he has which i will say someone tweeted this that like drake was

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showing off a bunch of like jewelry that he's a mask like there's ferell's uh stuff there's

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two pox's ring there's um michael jackson memorabilia and someone was like it just was

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giving like colonizer you know that like oh i have all i was going gonna say it's giving todder call's house with all the

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like wizard of all stuff no no it's giving like oh look at me i have all this like it's like the british

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museum of history and not one thing in that is british is british yep correct okay because i went

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there and i wanted to literally start a revolution and of of course, there's a vintage t-shirt.

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There's all.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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So it's just there's a mole, is the point.

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Allegedly.

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So now, this song is so scathing.

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Okay.

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Because when I tell you a lyrical genius, because it starts with dear Adonis.

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And when he said dear Adonis, I think I fell over.

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Exactly, right?

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Because it's like, okay, we've been talking about it.

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Like in the previous ones, he's talking about like being a good father, but you wouldn't know anything about that. Like being there for your kids, but you wouldn't know anything about that.

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And it's like, okay, that's laying it out on the line.

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And then it's like, okay, let me address Adonis directly. And he's, and just so you all know,

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each line, each verse is addressed to Drake's family. And Drake does not play about his mom. He,

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anyone else, I don't think he gives a flying F about. We know he don't like his dad.

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Definitely.

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But who, Sandy?

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He does not play about Sandy. All right. So I don't know what's going to happen next. Please. Okay. So the first, of course, he's talking about to Adonis.And he says sometimes your parents mistakes that affect us until we're grown. And you're a good kid. You need good leadership. Let me be your mentor since your daddy won't teach you shit never let a man piss on your leg son now why did you have to bring that up he's bringing up everything everything and in case you all

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didn't know this is when like meek mill was dissing drake and he's like you let uh tips homie piss on you in a movie theater and T.I confirmed it

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not a movie theater I mean I don't know what these weirdos be doing bro what the hell some people say club but the line is just like movie theater but club makes way more senseeither way God knows what they're up

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to i don't kink shame but it's none of my business yeah ti does say that like i think this friend

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isn't alive anymore um but did you rene there's a whole complex article y'all can look it up

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anyway then it's like never fall in the escort business that's bad religion remember you could be a bitch even if you got bitches help

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it's crazy it's so crazy and then of course he talks a lot about like being biracial and what does it mean you know to be like a black man in this world blah blah and then the line i loved line I loved, Kirsten, is even if it don't benefit your goals, do some push-ups. When that man released the distract call push-ups. Oh, man.

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Not back to the BBL.

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Correct. Correct. Yeah. There's a lot of Zempe here and there as well. Because it says F that OZempic, what OZMPIC did. Don't play.Don't pay to play with them Brazilians, which is the BBO.

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Get a gym membership.

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And understand don't throw rocks basically and hide your hands. It's just, it's so ridiculous. And tells Adonis, don't have a kid to hide a kid to have a kid to hide again. Which, in case you didn't know, baby, that's coming. But then there's a Sandra and Dennis Graham versus. And when I tell you, we did, I'm telling you, I don't know what's going to happen.I think like he's going to kill him.

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I don't think he's going to. It I think he's going to kill him. I don't think he's going to.

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Stop, stop.

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He's already dead.

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I also saw a lot of people posting.

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I don't, Sasha, did you ever watch DeGrassey?

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Yes.

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Oh my God. I couldn't remember.

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I saw a lot of people posting the scene where right before Jimmy gets shot the gun is up and people were like, Kendrick.

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Stop. I tweeted what's going on and people are like Kendrick stop. I tweeted

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what's going on and someone just sent me

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that and I say oh it checks out. So then

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yeah and Kendrick like talks about how his parents have been separated but the verse like puts them together and he basically talks about all the allegations against underage women and how he like operates in the celebrity world because and again, this particular thing I believe is not exclusive to Drake.It is also a thing Drake does.

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So like let's talk about that.

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But you know, Kendrick talks about how there's like a Tinder, but he calls it tender because, you know, there aren't young girls.

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Well, and that's also where it's like, it's talking about like keeping the young girl orbit and using it as your Tinder, which is very in line with all the blind items and rumors about Drake's parties.

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Like it's like, like Josh and I were talking about this this morning because he's a big rap fan.

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And he was like, oh, and then there's this line.

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And I was like, oh, but have you heard about this about drinks parties?

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He's like, oh my God.

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Like it's even more.

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It's just, it's ridiculous.

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And he basically says like, I think he should die. Him and Weinstein should get fucked up in a cell for the rest of their life which should tell you everything you need to know and then he hates black women he sorry he hypersexualizes them with you know blah blah blah and then he grew facial hair because he this is bad because he understood being a beer just fit him better

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so bad let's not be homophobic but like I said you you have if you're listening to rap you

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you're agreeing that there is homophobia trans you know misogyia like you're like you're

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you're not signing a contract

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yeah to understand that you're going to hear a lot of things

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that you would not agree with in your life

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and are like not supporting yeah and then of course from the top rope he says he's got sex defenders on OVO that keep a monthly allowance that he keeps out of monthly allowance

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and like I here's and here's the thing after all of this I've only seen one thing that Drake has posted anything about and it's not

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anything about having sex offenders on the payroll which you would think if you don't have sex offenders

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on the payroll that you would actually be like absolutely not but yet crickets

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correct and i will say uh there is yeah and speaking of the payroll thing like that someone even found an

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article basically like how there was some payoff going on um when it comes to all of this stuff

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so again could be very much real and he also talks

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about you know like when hating black women makes sense because of the meg and the stallion right and riana there's been a lot of unfavoral ways he talks about them and um there is this could allegedly right like the tweet was talking about um bacanat Nais, who was arrested and charged with prostituting a 22-year-old woman in 2014. And he pled guilty to assaulting her in 2015. Again, still alleged. But it's, this is like a thing that happened.And then there's also talking about, you know, sexual misconduct, grooming, right? And other horrible crimes. And Kendrick is implying that Drake, you know, used his house for all of this stuff.

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And remember that again, adds up to the blind items. Correct. Correct. And this is where, right, he says they be streamlining victims all inside their home and calling them Tinder, then leak videos of themselves to further push the agendas,which is so funny because remember when every man you knew was obsessed with a Drake nude?

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And every woman was like, okay. It's, yeah, that's what he's talking about.

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He's like, this is being used as bait. And there's also, right, like, did being used as bait and um there's also right

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like ditty stuff that can be added to this so it's just there's so much going on and then the cat

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williams says cat williams gets your truth out so i'm going mine um and he talks about how

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the embassy about to get rated it's a matter of matter of time. Because Kendrick believes that Drake's home is dubbed the embassy.

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And then he talks to LeBron and he's like,

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LeBron, keep your family away. Steph Curry, keep your kids away. Everybody, if you love your kids, keep them away. And people have now been dragging LeBron because they're like, oh, we know that LeBron keeps his family away in Toronto. Well, and that's the thing to her.

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It's just like Kendrick is building up the story of like Drake's not a safe person for a child to be around and it's not a good environment to raise a child in.

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And so it's just like more evidence, evidence, evidence, like receipts, screenshots, all of it.

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A hundred percent.

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So it's just all of it is ridiculous.

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And then the craziest part is dear baby girl. Just wild. I said, well, baby girl, who? Like, whose baby girl? Well, yeah. And it's allegedly, there's a 12-year-old or 11-year-old daughter.Again, acclaimed Drake refuted. And it said, should be teaching you times table or watching Frozen with you. At your 11th birthday singing poems with you. Instead, he'd be in Turks paying for sex and pop and perks and

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there were

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Drake was on a vacation and Turks and

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K goes in like January there's lots of photos

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to it's very much um

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so okay this is what like has set everything on fire so Drake did post like an Instagram story.

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Yes. That was just like, let me grab the actual pose.

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It was just like, no, hold on. Can someone find my hidden daughter please and send her to me? These guys are in shambles. And it's like Drake.

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You could say a lot of things about Kendrick Lamar, but you cannot say he is in shambles.

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That is wild.

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Correct. Correct. Okay you cannot say he is in shambles. That is wild. Correct.

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Correct.

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Okay.

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And the thing is also that he talks about this, but he's also, there is a tweet people found 12 years ago and all it said is baby girl from Drake. I miss that one.

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Help. Literally help. I am that one. Help.

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Literally help.

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I am not okay.

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And then people were posting that I think the certified lover boy, right?

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Where it's a bunch of baby mamas.

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Oh, yeah. All the pregnant emojis.

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Yes, a pregnant emoji.

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But yeah, there's a tweet that says baby girl.

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Oh, Lord.

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Yeah.

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I thought I bookmarked it to send it to, but I did not find it.

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It's okay.

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It's okay. Either way, it's okay.

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But yeah, so that's why people are like, oh, it's interesting that you're saying that.

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But, okay, and then there's a lot more stuff. Okay, then there's stuff for Drake that he, you know, basically he's like, you're, why are you a body shamer? But then you're going to hide your baby mammas. You're embarrassed. But that ain't how Mama Ray's does.Take your mask off. I want to see what's under those achievements, you know, blah, blah, blah. And just like calling him, you know, a drug it, everything under the sun.

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But I just want to say, I don't know what Kendrick doing all

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the talking like we didn't hear Mr. Morath you had Kodak a no someone that pleaded guilty to being

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a sex defender I'm confused yeah I the only thing I can even think is he's like well that's like it's out in the sun versus like being hidden and covered for. But it's still like not good. Yeah.

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So it's just, it's so ridiculous. And again, I'm not like necessarily saying this as a Drake fan. It's just everyone's dirty. But it's fine. It's still a good song. Period.It's just. And there was stuff about R. Kelly too talking about how. Well, if R. Kelly wasn still a good song, period. It's just, and there was stuff about R. Kelly, too, talking about how, well, if R. Kelly wasn't, you know, hurt as a child, blah, blah, blah, he wouldn't do that. Shut up.

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Yeah, it's the kind of thing where it's like, well, that's kind of irrelevant to the point

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when you look at the full evidence of everything that he got involved in later on.

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And then folks also were talking about how when he was on Spotify,

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R. Kelly, right? And Kendrick is, what the word? Like, Kendrick was, sorry. It took his, was threatening to take his music off of Spotify because they were trying to take R. Kelly's music off. No, that's not true. It was like a whole bigger lawsuit issue.

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It wasn't that around the same time that a lot of artists were saying they were going to take

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their music off of Spotify? There was some like competitive issue. It wasn't necessarily like

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because of R. Kelly. Yeah, I think that that was like an artist

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payment issue. Because I think that Taylor Swift did pull her music off of Spotify and I think it was around the same time. I don't have the facts in front me though, so I might be completely wrong. Yeah. So it's just, um,it was a TDE exec that threatened to pull music from Spotify over hate content and hateful content policy. The platform was implementing not Kendrick himself. But you know, again, that can be disputed, right?Like, well, but why wouldn't Kendrick's rep reach out on behalf of him? Yeah, exactly.

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But it was the label head that threatened to do that because they were like, it's not right for artists to be censored um is like what

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the top doc CEO was saying so and this was 2018 where Spotify announced that they're moving away from implementing policy around artist contact that policy is hateful conduct and content and hateful conduct policy and this was when removal of right like X, X, X, X, X, and Tasione and R. Kelly's music, even though Arkelly's music, I believe, is on Spotify.

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But I think a lot of stuff that was like, Remo got out of it.

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Oh, okay, that's what I, but it's 2018, I know, but still, yeah.

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So anyway, there's like a whole article where you can look up.

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This is Kendrick Labelhead confirms he threatened to pull music from Spotify.

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So it's just this one thing, you know, it's messy.

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Let's just say that. Yes, extremely messy.

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Because people were like, oh, you threatened to remove your music because of R. Kelly. And it's like, well, it could be a little bit bigger than that.

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Just, yeah, it's messy. All right. And no one is safe and no one is clean, rather, I should say. But the way Kendrick eviscerates Drake is clean. And we love it. So that is it.I did want to bring up just as a like final thing, Kirsten.

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Yes. Nitty Scott tweeted this and I think is very funny. So our man is writing at dawn for allegedly abused women now, question mark. The free Tory mascot is holding lady beaters accountable. One day we'll talk about how the suffering of women is reduced to punchline and clapback material and how we catch the majority of strays and rap beef.Period.

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Yeah. And stop making. And then someone else tweeted, you know, Drake alleged that Kendrick is an abuser while shouting out Chris Brown on the same song. Make it make sense.

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Meanwhile, you're talking about ASAP and shading Rihanna. Get over it. She didn't want you. talking about ASAP and shading Rihanna. Get over it. She didn't want you.

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And then Drake will never ever get over that.

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Correct.

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And then Kendrick calls Drake a black woman hating sexual predator while having Kodak, black, you know, on Mr. Morrell. Make it make sense. Black women are the butt of the joke for both of them not to ruin the fun. Agreed. And then I leave you on a funny note. This is not actually funny.Sorry, it's just so absurd. It's funny. Rick Ross, plane crashes, private jet does a crash landing in Dallas, in DFW. And the reason they said it happened is because the landing gear got stuck, right?

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But everyone, that is not what Mr. Rick Ross said. Because he gets on Instagram and he thanks everyone for expressing you know, safety and then goes it was the white boy.

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And he said I saw F-16s on some top gun shit. What?

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Flying, you know, on the side.

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And he's like, I'm basically being like, you know, Drake, like he can, you know, get it, like, get my thing. Knocked out. What are you talking about? you know get it like get my thing knocked down what are we talking about everyone please the governor

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crosses around like I'm not doing

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what are we doing here he said this answer I saw Tom Cruise

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like oh

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and F one like oh yeah we got a military

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they forced us to the ground

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And then again, we're getting close

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To the anti-Semitic like Jews Run the world so they can do this

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Because then he was like, he's making his face And he's like, you know, their face was like this Because the Gs were hitting back That's how I know it was F-16. What?

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Okay, I'm sorry I don't believe that Rick Ross knows what an F-16. What? I'm sorry. I don't believe that Rick Ross knows what an F-16 looks like.

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Well, everyone that was Pop Gun knows what F-16 looks like.

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Well, I mean, I guess, but like, I don't know.

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Yeah.

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No, Parthik very much knows what all of them look like, but he's very much a buff when it comes to all this stuff. Like, he loves history stuff. If you told me, Carthick said, oh i'd say i'd be like yeah i believe you yeah rickrott's true true is rick ross on the same planet as the rest of us was

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rick ross indulging in some fun things that we should all be indulging in while watching

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top gun maybe it would make sense. It would add up.

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That's all I'm wondering. That's all I'll say. But anyway, I just needed to leave you with that. And TLDR, Drake alleges, Kendrick's son isn't his. He won't marry his girlfriend, and he hit her.Kendrick replied, Drake has a daughter, and knowingly employs pedophiles. You're welcome. And that's what you missed on route? Yes.And here it's what you missed on Glee.

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We did at Chrisley drama because I know like folks asked us, but like listen, this is it. I can't. We can't talk about. Yeah. We like we just spent over an hour talking about it.

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But it was fun. It was super fun. I had a great time I hope that the listeners enjoyed it but I say let's get into an anonymous please

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okay perfect so we got this anonymous and it's a bit long but not too long so bear with our messenger because this story has some set up

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okay so it starts in the sixth grade.

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Our messenger, who has she, her pronouns, had a crush on one of their friends for like two weeks, which is a lot in the sixth grade.

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It's a long time.

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The summer after sixth grade, he told the messenger about he liked her. And she said, I just want to be friends. So, okay.

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I guess she got over the crash. She never told him that she ever had a crush on him. Okay. So then in seventh grade,

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he started dating one of the other girls in their friend group for like two months, which again,

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a long time when you're in the seventh grade. Yep. During that time, our messenger and this boy

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stayed really good friends and they were neighbors as well, which provides a little bit of context.

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Yes.

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Something else to know is that our messenger used to go to music sleepaway camp every year since elementary school. Yep.

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But that one year, so after grade seven, his girlfriend told him not to go.

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And he listened. So our messenger went alone. Okay.

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Oh, my God.

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Okay. The day that our messenger got back from music sleepaway camp, he asked if he could come over and told her that he had broken up with his girlfriend that day. And he asked our messenger to help him text her after the breakup because they were still talking

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things through.

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Again, and our messenger says like probably not the greatest thing 12 year old me could have done. Again, you were 12.

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Please have some grace for yourself.

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So then when school started, so this is grade eight. Yeah.

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For eighth grade for the Americans, he left the friend group to give this girl space.

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And our messenger was the only one who stayed in contact with him.

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Okay.

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At the end of eighth grade, the girl in the group that this boy had dated.

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Okay.

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Asked her messenger to stop being friends with him because it made her uncomfortable. And that if our messenger stopped talking to him, maybe he would get desperate enough to get back with her.

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Like that's the exact wording.

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Embarrassing for that girl.

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Oh, hand up.

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Like, eighth grade, you don't know.

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Yeah.

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And our messenger said no.

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And the girls said, fine, forget.

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And our messenger then told him that she had asked her that, which again, in hindsight,

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our messenger says it was pretty bitchy like my bet. Again, you're in the eighth grade. Have some grace for yourself.

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It's fine.

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It's fine.

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You wouldn't do it now.

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So then it's the summer before high school started.

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And all of the other people in that friend group stopped talking to our messenger.

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They would constantly post pictures and videos of them hanging out or doing stuff without her, which did not feel good. Our messenger only hung out with one of the girls in that friend group like two times the entire summer and the rest of them all ignored her. Oh my God. So then high school started. Our messenger took that to mean, okay, well, we're not friends anymore. I'm going to move on.I'm going to a new school. Let me make some new friends. I'm not even going to talk to these girls. I'll, like, say hi to them in the hallway.

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Yeah.

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I'm not talking to them.

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So all of this, our messenger was still friends with the guy, her neighbor, who she had a crush on in the sixth grade. They would go biking around their neighborhood. They would go hiking and they would do like random activities, but they didn't really hang out at school. Okay.Okay. So then at the same year, the girl from the friend group that had been dating the guy, dated another one of his best friends to make him jealous and then lost it when he got a new girlfriend.

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Oh.

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This ball was the game, but you were not ready to be in the rain.

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She wasn't ready for the streets, you know?

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She's young.

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So she would leave this boy long voicemails about how he had ruined her life, which again,

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they dated for two months in the seventh grade.

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And it's now the ninth grade. So like, come on.

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And talking about how she was better for him than the new girl, which is like, what are you talking about?

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Seriously.

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Oh, my God.

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Meanwhile, this boy started dating someone in grade nine and he dated her for five years.

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So all through high school and like first year of college.

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No, that's like a lifetime.

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That's a long time. Yeah. And so during that relationship, our messenger and this boy kind of college. No, that's like a lifetime. That's a long time.

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Yeah.

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And so during that relationship, our messenger and this boy kind of fell out of touch.

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They stopped talking.

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Every time she would ask him to hang out, he would say he was busy or he would be out of town.

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And eventually they just drifted apart.

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Got it. Okay. Oh, he might have started dating the girl like in middle school and through high school because then it says COVID hit during her junior year of high school. So these people are still young.

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Right? Yeah. And after COVID hit, she never really heard from him again. She saw him in passing

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during their socially distanced prom and graduation. And he came up to her while they were waiting

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to pick up their actual diplomas and they caught up for like a brief moment. An important note is that his girlfriend was not at graduation. Okay. For future insight. Okay. Okay. So every couple of months, our messenger, we get a random DM from this boy asking like, how's life going? How are you you like in college and every single time he would

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ask oh do you have a boyfriend or girlfriend yet uh-uh and then this goes now we're in present day

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okay a month ago maybe a couple months ago because i think this one has been sitting for a little bit

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okay okay yeah so one month before this was submitted to us this boy adds our messenger on snap

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and asks to hang out.

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No.

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Okay.

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No.

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They went out for ice cream and he told her that he had broken up with his long-term girlfriend,

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that it was super messy and that the relationship was the reason why he stopped talking to her in high school

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because she asked him not to be our messenger's friend anymore.

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And so he did.

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No, no, no, no, no.

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One thing to note as well is that they live in L.A.

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And he had gotten into college in New York and wanted to go.

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And his girlfriend at that time said, if you go to New York, I'm going to break up with you.

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Because they're in L.A.

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We're over.

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He entered going to USC.

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And now looking back, he wishes he had gone to school in New York and just broken

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up with her then.

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Like who, why are your partner is the reason we are picking colleges?

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This is crazy as hell when you're like a child still. Stop. That's crazy.

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Yeah, it's not like med school where you're like, oh, I need to apply like where my partner.

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Like, shut up.

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Stand up.

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Yeah. And so then he also said that the reason why his girlfriend wasn't at high school graduation was because she didn't actually pass enough classes to graduate

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which is also probably explains why he decided to talk to her on graduation day instead of ignore

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her like our messenger because his girlfriend wasn't there so then like, they talked for hours on this hangout.

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And it came up that he used to have a crush in middle school on our messenger.

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And our messenger says, oh, yeah, I used to like you too. And he goes, oh, man, I wish you told me back then. This is crazy.

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They talked until 1 a.m. It's giving rom-com.

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It's giving rom-com.

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It's giving rom-comish. So then the-com. It's giving rom-com-ish.

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So then the next day, he texts her and says, oh, when will you be down to hang out again? And they have plans for the following week. Okay.

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They went to a Thai restaurant in Santa Monica, which was like a little bit fancy.

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And our messenger panicked called their friend to be like, how do I make it known that this is not a date? Like, we're just hanging out.

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Because she's not interested. She got over her crush in the sixth grade? Like, we're just hanging out. Because she's not interested. She got over her crush in the sixth grade. Yeah, yeah. A real one. With her life. Yeah.

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So when the check came, he tried to like pay for it and kind of make a dady. And she immediately Venmoed him for her half of the bill. Because she's like, no, it's not a date. Correct.

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They then went for a walk on the Santa Monica Pier

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because there is a really good ice cream place there

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that our messenger would definitely recommend.

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But it was at sunset, so it was like kind of romantic. So our messenger says that they were, they've never avoided eye contact or called someone bro so much in their life because they were trying to be like, it is not a date. I love our messenger. Our messenger is not a date. I love our messenger.

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Our messenger is a real one.

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I love her.

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And so again, like on the last time they hung out, they hung out until like one of the. So I kind of also get why he got the wrong impression because like they yeah until 1 a.m.

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And talking about crushes, right?

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And talking about crushes.

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Yeah.

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And I guess they also were talking about like kisses because our messenger had mentioned on their last hangout that she had never had a kiss that she had enjoyed because guys are and they do stupid stuff after.

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So when they were walking like on the pier, he said he wanted to change that for her. And she said, no, thanks. It's not your problem. And started walking even further away from like a solid two foot wide gap between them walking on the pier. The thing is, thanks. It's not your problem. And started walking even further away from, like a solid two foot wide gap between them walking on the pier.

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The thing is, yeah, like if you were, you know, like a real toxic person, yes, this is how you get someone to kiss you. But since you're not, this is horrible. Yeah. It's okay.

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Again, she's young.

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Yeah, it's fine. This is a time to do all this. And so about a half hour after this, he's okay. Again, she's young. Yeah, it's fine. This is a time to do.

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They're all young.

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And so about a half hour after this, he's driving her home because obviously he drove her to the day.

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She's branded on the Santa Monica Pier.

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And they passed a park that they used to go to together when they were kids. So he parks the car and he starts walking around the park. And it's like very awkward. Oh, God. And then like very awkward. Oh God.

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And then he very awkwardly asks our messenger, oh, have you ever had sex?

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And our messenger says no.

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She's 19.

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She's insecure. She also COVID hit like right in her junior. Oh, no.

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You do not need to have a reason. And also you don't even need a reason. Yeah. And so she's uncomfortable.

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She's like, oh, no, ha ha.

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And she goes, oh, have you?

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Like, in a joking way.

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Because she's like, you weren't a like a five to six year relationship.

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Like, obviously, like I would think that you have.

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Oh, true. And he said no.

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And our messenger says her jaw could have hit the floor.

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You know boys be lying about this kind of stuff.

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Yeah, who knows if he's lying or not?

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Yeah. But he says, oh, like, are you waiting to be in a relationship? Like, or would you just do it with a friend to get it over?

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And our messenger says, oh, yeah, I don't want to yet.

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Like, I'm not, whatever, I don't want to.

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Good job.

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And he goes, oh, I want to get it over with now because I don't want to turn 20 having never done it. So like this is so immature. And then he says, oh, well, would you

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consider doing it with me just to like have done it with someone you know well and like not a stranger?

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I'm but her messenger said, especially after she turned down the kiss, it's like, why are you still trying

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embarrassing? And our messenger said no. and then he took her home and our messenger

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just wanted to say men are wild out here

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listen men have no shame out here

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that's the problem

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like why are you doing this kind of dumbassery

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I literally cannot imagine

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soliciting like asking someone for a kiss

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and they turn me down cold.

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Mm-hmm.

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And then I'm like, like literally you'll never see me again. Mm-hmm. Kill me. But to then push it further and be like, okay, but like, do you want to have sex with me? No, stop. Like, stand up.Oh my God. I'm so sorry you have to deal with this.

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Like I,

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again,

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that's her neighbor.

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Like her childhood home

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whenever she was back home

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for like a break in college,

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he's going to probably have to see this guy.

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And here's what I would like the messenger

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with a good thing that came out of this messenger

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is now if you do want someone to kiss you,

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you have a great line.

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Okay. This is how toxic queens are made okay so i got you she has a lot of potential yes i just feel like you're you're forgetting

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that you have potential so f that insecure shit and let's work on making you talk. Let's Sasha be your mentor.

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Let me put me in. Just like Kendrick said.

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Let me be your mentor.

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But yes, so that is our anonymous.

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I thought this one was so fun.

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And it made me laugh a lot.

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And so I really appreciate our message or sending this in.

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And you know what?

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If this brought up any memories of mess for anyone listening, please send your mess in.

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Tinyurall.com slash mess magnets.

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We are getting so low on anonymous.

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So please, please, please submit your mess.

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It doesn't even have to be true.

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It can be a lie. We don't care. But if you said mess in the next little bit, there's a good chance that we'll get read because we don't have a lot on the docket right now.

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We have a little bit left, but we don't have a ton left.

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So would really, really appreciate those submissions. And, yeah, again, look at us. We did another podcast. It's late. So we made it a long one. Great job to both of us as per usual.

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Obviously.

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And yeah, we're going to miss y'all next week.

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I mean, I will. Us together will be missed.

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I'll miss you, Sasha, next week. I mean, I'm going to miss you. What the heck? I'm mad you're not coming.

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Tell it to the airlines, baby.

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I know.

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Also, one more thing. Sorry, before we go, I did forget to bring up, because there's so much, is that there was a girl in a little girl in the background of Drake's song, Family Matters, like on a poster, I think.

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And, you know, that allegedly was a 12-year-old. drake is saying that it was a setup well and kate but that's the thing like drag is like kind of saying it's a setup but you'd think he would be coming out a lot stronger against it the thing is that's just my opinion just do the real journalism, that's what I want. Okay.

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I just need it.

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We need it.

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We're begging for recap, kick back to do the, get, bring out the whiteboard, Chappelle.

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We're ready.

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We're waiting, okay?

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But with that, thank you everyone for listening.

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Please give us a five-star review.

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Please help us out.

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Send us your anonymous, okay?

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Like Kirsten said,

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link is in bio.

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And Kirsten, where can the people find you?

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Yes, so this week I was on the 90-day fiancé Rehapp podcast with Puyah

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talking about the latest season of Happily Ever After. It was a really fun podcast. And I was on the Big Brother Canada roundtable for the past week. The finale for that is on Wednesday coming up. So if you want to hear my thoughts before it's over, you can go check that out. And you can follow me everywhere at Kirsten Said What, including Twitch.tv slash Kirsten said what.And Sasha, where can they find you?

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Yes.

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You can, of course, find me on Twitter at Fundsys underscore 04.

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I'll be in Chicago next week and find me there. And, of course, I'm covering Bravo Shobas Below Deck and Summer House Martha's Vineyard with Chappelle. Below Deck is on the Rob Has a Podcast YouTube channel or the Bravo TV rapups and Martha's Vineyard is on Recap Kickback. So check that out. And for everything else I'm doing, like I said, just follow me on socials. Thank you everyone for listening.Bye. Hey, guys. It is Ryan.

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