Kirk Your Enthusiasm: Jason Gallagher and Tyler Parker

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You need indeed. I'm going to be. Welcome to Kirk here, enthusiasm. This is an incredibly impromptu episode where I am joined by my friend Jason Gallagher and my other friend Tyler Parker PERSON. Now, you guys might be wondering why this came together in a rush.

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Simple fact of the matter is, we don't have a lot of time until the series starts, and I like asking people for favors in the last minute. Guys, tell us your background together and why in the world you guys wanted to do this show, because I think you need this. You two need this before The Thunder play The Mavericks ORG. Our background.

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First off, thanks for having me. I got so much to get off my chest. One of them I didn't realize your intro music was so sexy. That's some sexy music. All right. Tyler and I, we were college together.We were very good friends. We actually used to not like each other at first because my wife and I were an on and off again relationship. And she started like hanging with Tyler and I was like, who's this? We weren't romantically hanging.

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It was like we were.

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I was none the wider.

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Yeah. Okay. Yes.

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And you're in shape and tall and handsome and it drove me crazy.

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You didn't know the context of in which of the hanging.

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Right. And you would hang out,

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you would hang out and like watch Dawson's Creek WORK_OF_ART with her.

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And I'd be like, are you kidding me right now?

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I'm a catch. I'm a catch. What can I say?

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And then we grew to be very good friends. We lived across the street from each other in college. And we, a lot of late nights, fun times. And then we both went to Chicago around the same time to do comedy. He was much more successful than I was. But he was very funny and good.And then started a blog together, Baller Ball PERSON. We both moved to L.A. Around the same time, maybe a couple years apart.

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So we've always been in each other's orbits, which has been great.

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Baller Baller Ball PERSON is very important in my comments.

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I know what the fuck baller ball is, but that's okay. So, okay, you guys are your friends. You go way back. At what point did the basketball element enter your relationship? And what was that like? I mean, pretty early, I feel like.

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It was like I knew Jason was a Mavs ORG fan. That was something that he led with that. That was, you know, that was.

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That was one of the first couple talking points. Ted Mosby, architect, Jason Gallagher, Mavs ORG fan.

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It was like Mazz PERSON fan. Another thing about me, a big Dirk PERSON fan. Another thing about me, you know,irk PERSON fan. Another thing about me. But no, yeah, it, we, the basketball stuff kind of from, from jump, we would, we would talk about it and stuff. I was like, I was playing at OBE ORG, like I was on the team.And so, you know, we just got along because we both were watching sports. I think more than we were both watching and paying attention to basketball, I think more than some of our other friends were. Yeah.

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And I'll just also add it's all kind of coming back to me in the last like 48 hours because I've had some folks, I've had some folks I've had some folks text me that that that are Oklahomans NORP that said how big a dick I I was back then but there's a couple things one is when I moved to Oklahoma from Texas GPE I had no Texas pride zero whatsoever couldn't care less whatever but then people would just like get in your face and be like Texas suck and you know yeah I mean it doesn't suck it's like whatsoever, couldn't care less, whatever. But then people would just, like, get in your face and be like, Texas GPE suck.

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And you're just like, I mean,

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it doesn't suck. It's like, fine. It's, it doesn't suck. And, like, there's a lot of that.

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And then when I first moved there, too, there were a lot of, like, Mavs slash Dirk PERSON fans that, like, jumped ship. And at the time, I was, like, very, like,

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Oh, that's right.

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I remember this being, yeah.

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Yeah, and I was like, you cowards, you blah blah and uh and so um i never really let a lot of people um probably

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heard a lot of crap from me and that that was stupid but it is what it is i forgot i forgot about

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i forgot about that part of things i do remember every I do remember a big talking point early on being that Cuban

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was one of the only owners that voted against the relocation. He was like one of like two,

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I think, maybe? Or was he the only one? I can't remember which.

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He's losing some fans. Yeah, for sure. It made business sense. But I just, it's, that's,

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that's one of those things that now you look back on it. It was like him and Donald Sterling. I'm pretty sure. Yeah. So just like two,

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two really neat guys on the right side of history. I, uh, the other, you know, it's really funny

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is that I think Royce PERSON, uh, Thunder guy Royce's old email was the same as my personal email.

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My personal email is Jason Gallagher 41 after Dirk Nguinsky PERSON, and he had the same,

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a very similar email.

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Number 41 was in it because he grew up a Mabst fan, grew up a Dirk PERSON fan.

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So, okay, question.

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At what point, the Thunder moved to from Seattle in 2008?

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Yes.

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Is that right?

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So where were you guys at that point in times

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in your respective lives?

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I was a junior in college.

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No, sophomore.

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I was a sophomore in college.

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Perfect.

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Okay.

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So this is right when you have the kind of time

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to watch sports and be angry and dedicate unreasonable amounts of emotional energy towards your sporting team. The realization, Kirk PERSON, that in my, and dedicate unreasonable amounts of emotional energy towards your sporting team. The realization, Kirk PERSON, that in my shitty little dorm room, I could watch NBA ORG basketball on like local cable on, you know,we like, well, I went to school in Shawnee GPE, but that's very close to Oklahoma City GPE.

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Just on our regular cable, you were getting Thunder ORG games. And before that, unless it was a nationally televised game, you weren't watching any NBA ORG games.

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So just that, like getting to watch a game in my dorm, I remember just being blown away at like that it was even possible.

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Yeah, that's, and I want to add that, I mean, I used to go to a ton of Thunder ORG games.

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I think I went to the first, the first thing.

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Oh, yeah, you would go with those guys, you would go, you would dress up.

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We would dress in togas and go, they call ourselves the gods of thunder.

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And they were like, we'll give you tickets if you keep dressing up. And so we did. That's right.

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And now they freaking took our little thing as the mascot's origin story.

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He was created by the-

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How many times is this going to happen to you, Jason?

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You create intellectual property from basketball teams.

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They're fucking-dain from you.

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I really like the Thunder Organization ORG.

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They have done nothing but nice things from me.

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So we are all square there.

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Okay.

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So my-

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Can I also just say one more, sorry, Kirk PERSON.

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But can you start

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introducing me as

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produces the LeBron

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James podcast rather than the

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I'm sorry.

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I can,

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you want to know why I don't call it.

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Because I can never remember

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what it's called.

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I can never remember

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what the LeBron James Redick

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podcast is called. It's fine. Like I want to like,

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smarmy assholes. Mind the game. Mind the game. See, game. See that's, it's fantastic. It's Jason is multi-talented. I never know what to. I should just call you the editor-in-chief of the baller ball and leave it in that.Which would be. Okay. So my before you got on, Tyler, Jason told me a little brief story that at one point time you and he lived together and there was a rule that you guys were not allowed to talk basketball like that was like my wife kind of was

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like don't you guys got to stop because we were getting a lot of we were getting to a lot of heated

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debates of a lot of the hot button topics were Jason Terry PERSON Jason Terry big hot button topic

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big one don't you speak ill Terry PERSON, big hot button topic.

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Big one.

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Don't you speak ill of him?

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Big hot button.

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Look, I want a mass pot. I'm going to be on the best behavior here.

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No, no. You can plug all the shit. That's fine.

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I mean, look, you know, I'm happy for, I'm happy for Jet PERSON. Glad that he could be creative enough to come up with that. Cool nickname. Nobody's ever had before.Jet PERSON. Jason Eugene PERSON. Hey, did y'all want to know what my nickname is? You know, this sport I play? cool nickname nobody's ever had before jet jason eugene

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did y'all want to know what my nickname is

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you know this sport I play

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the station that is most synonymous with it their lead analyst yeah it's his same exact same he it's his initials I know still

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still he does the flying thing

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it's cool

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come on the flying thing is not cool we're removed enough from it the flying thing it's cool come on the flying thing is not cool we're removed enough

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from it the flying thing is not cool it's if you win a championship it's cool that's my take

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if you lose every playoff series and you keep doing a bow and arrow thing like wesley matthews

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not cool okay Jason terry to me it was the poster child for the guy who like

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his team is on a run and he takes the bullshit charge in the back court.

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That's not actually a charge, but he flails.

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And the crowd goes crazy and the ref calls a charge. And then he gets up and starts pounding his chest and asking the crowd for more noise and zooming around. That's the I don't.

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Jaylon Williams PERSON, then?

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No, he would, you're not, he would be barking you, Jason.

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Get it right.

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Hold on. Hold on.

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You know what's funny, though, is that I was thinking to myself, like, what was it that I

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would say about the thunder that would get you mad?

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And it's actually replaying in my head right now because I'm thinking, like, this is the same mother effort who would cheer on James Hardin PERSON and we'd have to go with a commercial break and after the slow-mo above the camera, you see that he never got hit and he just lied. That's, he is early.

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This is why we had to do this.

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Like you guys need to read. Harding PERSON would literally lay on the ground for the entire commercial break. And then they're like, he never got hit. What do we do? And you're talking about Jason Terry PERSON?

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Look, I'm not a James Hardin PERSON fan.

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You know what I mean?

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I'm not into it.

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I can't speak to that. That does sound like me, but I can't speak to that. That's from another life. And so, no, I do remember,

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I will say this.

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I do remember as a Thunder ORG fan,

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who especially after some of his playoff success, I remember being like, wait, is this guy my favorite one out of the three of these dudes?

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Is this guy my favorite one? He's a lot of fun against the Spurs ORG. That was a lot of fun in game five. Is he my favorite?

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And the thing that would keep him from ultimately ever becoming my favorite was this sort of stuff.

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The phantom elbow that didn't connect, but we grab our, it was the, the theatrics got in the way of, of, which that has proven to be his, his MO.

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So, you know, yeah.

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So I have a couple of questions

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because we have like 10 minutes.

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Then Jason and I both have to go do things.

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The first question, Tyler, who are some of your least favorite Dallas Mavericks ORG? J.J. Borea, for sure.

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Wow.

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Fast. They get that on the clip.

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J.J. Braya is my least favorite kind of instigator. And I understand I'm talking about a Mads PERSON legend, and I respect that he did what he did at 5-5 or whatever he is. Obviously incredibly skilledand we know, we know.

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No, no, no, that's fine.

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No, this is pure hate. I need the hate. That's what this is about. This is such a touchy-feely series coming and I need to be angry.

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He is the kind of player that would act like he wasn't an instigator. He wouldn't, like, be loud and proud about his instigations. He would be tugging on shorts, giving little elbows, flopping, things like that, and taking advantage of the fact that he was small. I understand he had to do that in order to survive.But then he would act so above it whenever players would get mad at him. And he would be like, he would be incredulous that players would be frustrated with him when his entire thing is trying to get people mad at him.

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Fantastic.

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Who else?

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Where does Char, where is, where is, where does Salamadry PERSON fall in your life? Oh my God, I did hate Salimetry, where is, where is Salimedri PERSON fall in your own? Oh my God. I did hate Salimetry ORG so much.

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I also hate Salimajri PERSON, so I get it.

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That is one of my least favorite.

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Yeah.

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He stayed on the roster for like, a couple years simply because like,

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Luca PERSON just loved him.

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And like Luca PERSON, Luca was like, it was like his older brother.

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And if, if anyone messed with Luca PERSON, that's why I'm like, thank God, we have like a Gafford type right now because like, like, it was like his older brother. And if anyone messed with Luca,

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that's why I'm like, thank God we have like a Gafford PERSON type right now

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because like we didn't have that forever.

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I gotta tell you,

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I call him to question Lucas PERSON decision making

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if he's seeing a lot of good in solid measuring.

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You know what I mean?

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I don't like,

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he latches on like, so Rick PERSON Carlisle apparently really mean to measure and that and he hated Rick. So he was like, he like took him on, like there were teammates mean to measurey and that and he hated Rick PERSON. So he was like, he like took him on like, they were teammates on old team, but that like made him double down.

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Got you.

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But who do? I do remember. I mean, what, who were the other guys? Oh, I got one. I want to know. Like when you see Ray Felton PERSON nowadays and if you haven't seen Ray Felton nowadays, it's quite the look.

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He is a, he's expanded is what I'll say.

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Yes. Do you? As we all have, you know. Yeah. Right a, he's expanded, is what I'll say. Yes.

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Do you? As we all have, you know. Yeah. But he's in particular, can, can you believe Ray Felton single-handedly beat the Thunder ORG in a playoff game? What I, what I'll tell you what I, what is even more brutal is that that happened. And then I had to cheer for him futile years later as my Thunder got pieced out of the first round by the Blazers in 2019. That was like when, a sobering moment in my life as an NBA ORG fan is when I was like, man,we need Felton PERSON to play better. And it's like, oh, no. If that's where you're at, if that, if that's like where your mind goes, like, man, we need some help, let's turn to Ray PERSON. Even at that point, you know, you just, that's not good news for your team.But that said, he always played very hard when he was with the thunder. But yes, I do remember hating him during the series you're talking about.

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Jason, do you have any Thunder players beyond James Harden PERSON that you truly loathe?

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Man, not really. I didn't like Perk PERSON at the time.

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I haven't liked Perk since I was 17 years old, and I've discovered him out in Beaumont, O's in Texas GPE.

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He had a year where he went at Durant PERSON. It was his post after he retired. That was a solid perk year. I didn't like him when he played. I didn't like Kevin PERSON at the time. But I didn't loat them, but I didn't like him.

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But what's funny about me is that, and Tyler knows that Russ PERSON is like my favorite non-maverick of all time. I love Russ PERSON.

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I know especially after this Clipper ORG series, that's a weird thing to say. But he just like, he performed when he played.

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And I like really love players that understand that they,

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this is like a really rare opportunity.

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Let's have some fun with it.

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You know it's some children who are on the sidelines.

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He would make it feel like an event, you know?

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Yeah. And I think Jalen Williams PERSON has a lot of that in him to, he seems to understand,

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you know, in terms of just straight performance. It's like he's going to be the one that

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when he, when some he hits a three, he's going to be the one that like looks in the stands. If they do eliminate the Mavericks and seven, he's going to be the one that like looks in the stands if they

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do eliminate the mavericks and seven he's going to be the one on the scorers table probably so i think that

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i think that that's why i've always loved russ he's just always so ferocious and fun and so yeah that

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that that is uh let me let me say this about that because i want to say something positive about the

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maps because i have a lot of positive feelings towards the Mavs ORG.

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And I want you to know I have so much respect for the Mavs that I'm not doing my Ricks PERSON bit,

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which I thought about doing, but I decided against it.

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Great bit.

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I like it, but I just wanted to, you know, the, but the, um,

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one of my favorite basketball players of all time is specifically Mavs Nick Van Exel PERSON.

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Oh, yes.

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Some of those performances that he had against the Kings ORG in particular are like hit me at a time in

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my basketball life where I was like, this is my guy.

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This is my aesthetic right here.

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Whatever is this guy's got going on, how he's playing.

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Hell yes.

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This seems great.

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That was always one. And I also always had a lot of love for the Mavs because Eduardo Naha'ra PERSON played there for a while.

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Yeah.

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And if you give me a sooner, I will always keep tabs.

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If you ever want to go down a hilarious Mavericks rabbit hole, when they drafted, they had like, I want to say, four draft picks in the 2000 draft, and he is the only person to have panned out. Because that 2000s draft was historically awful, because that was the one Kenyon Martin

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went number one overall. If you go look at it and like the Maverick, it was Cuban's first year draft. And it's why he hated the draft because he traded all in for all these guys and every single one of them sucked, except for late late second rounder Eduardo Nahara PERSON, toughest motherfucker alive.

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That dude, that guy got, that guy got multiple stitches right above his eye during a sweet

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16 game against his case.

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He went, he went off, got the stitches, came back in, and the next time

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that he was in, he goes in for an offensive rebound and about gets a tip in. He's a lunatic. He's

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amazing. Love it or not our own. Well, this is far too much love. You guys are going to hate each other

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by the end of this, at least a little bit. No, not even. No, there's a couple things. We've both

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grown up. We've matured. We have children. You pass that on. You pass the hatred on.

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Unfortunately for me, Isaac has experienced the barking in the Thunder Arena FAC and that has had an

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impact on his life. He loves- He bark at you. He barks at everything. He needs to back it down

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a little bit because like I was saying this the other day, but like when I took him like Isaiah Joe hit a three and he literally went and started just solo.

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It was like, bar, bar, and I was like, that's not when you do that.

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It makes me so happy.

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He really loves the barking.

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I mean, Luca PERSON is his favorite player.

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And I think, I think that he.

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My child has adopted too much Luca PERSON.

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He got, he got pass interfered at a flag football game

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when he got planted on his face

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and got up and screamed at the ref.

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And Tyler, he's eight, so not great.

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It's not good.

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I will also say that the other really fun wrinkle to this series

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is that I think both crowds are pretty good

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and they're very different

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in their goodness like the thunder are like a steady drum beat but I do kind of think like the Mavs

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arena when it gets loud can get really like in those big yeah yeah I've always thought Dallas has a good

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crowd and it might be because it's like it's it doesn't have the steady drum beat so like when they

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do defense like very emotional People don't do that.

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But, like, when it, when it hits, it hits.

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And I'll be interested to see because neither of them had great home away,

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you know, the clippers aren't a great home crowd.

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And neither are the pelicans.

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So I think Luca PERSON, like, loves that environment.

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I think he's going to, like, have a good time.

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I think it's close to a European NORP environment because of the readiness. It's like just the noise

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and the loud. I don't think

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anybody expects

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Luca PERSON to be intimidated though.

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Like I like it. Yeah. I think I think Thunder ORG fans

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are, you know,

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know that there

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can be loud, but I don't think that they're

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out there like we're going to be so loud.

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Luca PERSON's not going to know what it. You know what I mean?

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I think they're, they know he what it. I mean, like it'll, I think they're,

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they know he's amazing.

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I have, there's a,

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okay, never mind, sorry. I was reading the comments. I'm really

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confused. No, don't read the comments.

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One guy has really grown up. My commenters are, who he's going for. See, that's like, post-game comments are even crazier when you get like the Kyrie fans versus the Luca PERSON fans versus the Clipper ORG fans last game. It was just just like people just love to argue on the internet whereas I like to argue on the internet while speaking to somebody not all right so we I think jasoni have to go i need predictions and then we'll go Tyler you first i'll say i'll say thunder PERSON in seven

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I think it i think it'll be a long one, and I think that it'll be very intense and physical, and I think both fan bases will be upset with the refs at different points for essentially the same things.

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Yeah, I think that too. I think I'm just going to go Mavs and 7 PRODUCT for similar reasons, and I don't think either one of us would be surprised if it went the other way.

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No, for sure. But it's going to be interesting just because, like,

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the narratives and stuff like that are going to, they're going to be kind of, like the MVP stuff's going to come out. Like, it's going to get a little annoying. It'll be interesting to see how annoying that gets. Like, I'm really interested in the discourse around the series.

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You know what I mean? Yeah, I know. It's got the potential to be one of those, like, you know, a lot of big, big sways, you know, like maybe the Mavs win game one and Luca PERSON torches everybody for 44. And it's like, you know, the king hath come again, you know, and then like the, maybe the Thunder win the next two games and Luca PERSON kind of bothers them and Lou kind of bothers Luca and Luca still goes for 30 or something, but it's a little inefficient, whatever. And then people are like, well, have they found, is there a Luca PERSON stopper now?And then Luca goes for 35 on 14 shots in game, you know what I mean? Like it feels like it would be very easy to get

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one of those. I know that Kirk PERSON is a big, he loves to plug things for people. So I'm going to ask just real quick, there is a great little segment on this week's mind the game about Lou Dort PERSON. LeBron is a massive Lou Dort fan. And so they talked about how do you go about playing playoff basketball with somebody like

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that on you? It's good. It's really good. Do Mavs fans ever talk about how Lucas PERSON said that

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Dort was the best guy that guards him? Yep. Oh yeah. We talk about it and many Thunder ORG fans

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have put it in my comments. Whenever I hear Lou Dort PERSON, my problem is that whenever I hear Lou Dort,

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I think of the Netflix show Octanauts WORK_OF_ART,

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which my son watched on repeat,

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and there was something called Creature Report WORK_OF_ART,

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and it's like, Lou Dort PERSON, Lou Dort PERSON, and it just plays in my head on repeat. My wife is telling me I have to go immediately. You guys are absolutely the best. Find Jason at Mind the Game ORG, and what is it called?

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Mind the game. It's called Mind the game. You got it right. right okay he looked at me like I got it wrong I'm like am I that

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fucking stupid it the LeBron pod okay yeah type LeBron James Pott you can find Tyler stuff on this cool little website called Amazon.com a little blood a little and dancing a novel

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which I will tell Tyler my dad's review of it later it brought me to tears and. Oh, my gosh. And, well, he, in a bad way?

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Well, he's like, no, in a, it wasn't for me, which tickled me to pieces.

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But it was an outstanding level.

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I cannot recommend it enough out there on Amazon ORG.

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You can also find Tyler at Ringer ORG, where he does all sorts of things, sometimes where

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I'm very confused as to if I'm watching a bit or not. And that's how good the eggs are. Guys, thank you so much for taking time with me. I hope we enjoy the series, and maybe we will talk at another time. You guys are the best.Thanks, buddy. Always good.

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Yep. Bye. Bye.

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