Season 5 - Episode 9 - LAFC Recap, On the Road Again, CLB Preview

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The Welcome back to the Outta Roses podcast. My name is Scott. I'm joined here by Matt PERSON. Hey-oh.

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And Aaron. Hello. How are you both doing tonight? Apparently I'm in an A-O mood. There you go. Hello. How are you both doing tonight?

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Apparently, I'm in an A-O mood.

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There you go.

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You do all right.

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Man, imagine if we had a sponsor that was A-O?

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A-O.

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A-O.

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It could be like, A-O.

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That'd be good.

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We should just come out with a product called A-O.

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That'd be really easy to market.

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Maybe.

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I don't know what it would be, though.

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I don't know.

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It helps keep clean sheets.

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Timbers could use that.

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We could use one of those.

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Yeah.

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All right. So we have a little bit of an agenda tonight. We don't have a very big agenda tonight, so we'll see how long this episode goes for. We're going to talk about LASC getting a draw at Providence Park FAC.

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There you go. That's where it is.

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Yeah. This is take two. We're going to talk a bit about the Timber ORG's upcoming road trip because they're going to be away for three games in a row and there's some interesting games in there. And then we will do a quick preview of the Columbus ORG crew,the Timber ORG's next opponent. More importantly, let's get into what is in front of us here. Who wants to introduce the beer tonight? Aaron, you brought it.

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I thought you met the microphone. So we're holding right now

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Gigantic Spirit Bomb IPA PRODUCT. I mean, Gigantic PRODUCT's good stuff. And I think I gave him a plug on the Wednesday for Portland Brewery Month. It's great play.

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I like the Lees de Hothran FAC location. I feel like Gigantic PRODUCT is one of the breweries we don't necessarily need to advertise for because they're a staple in the community.

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Yeah, and they're not on the coast. Yeah, we're not drinking coast up here for once. Yeah. This is a neat-ass can, though. It's really cool can. I actually thought I was the Thompson elk for a second.I think it's just an elk. Oh, there's two of them on there. That's cool. There's fish. There's like, I mean, it's almost like three wolves halling on a moon a little bit. So, behold, the luminous spirit bomb,

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a radiant golden bruise, is that suffused?

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With the intensity of citra and lemon drop hops. Bursting with citrusy hop flavors, each sip is an explosive experience, as is channeling the energyof a cosmic gathering. It's not a Dragon Ballsie WORK_OF_ART reference.

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Cheers, guys. Cheers. Oh, wow.

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Whoa, that is way smoother than I thought it was going to be.

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That was like on the nose. Oh, shit. There's a a lot going on there but that's that's that's good that's very chill I like that is all right is very balanced is it's a lemon grass is that what it said it said lemon drop hop lemon drop okay that's pretty good that's good I was expecting this well the other beer that were or are we're going to have that tonight or we're going to save it we'll see well we'll we'll see how it how the podcast goes i will i will least mention it because there was a lot of intent

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behind it ninja versus unicorn from pipeworks brewing ORG so there's like you can almost make unipiper

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out of that so yours came through tonight i have to say it's double ipa who knows it's any good

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but it we'll find out we'll get we'll get to it we'll get to it maybe we'll split one at the

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end if if we don't want to. That's a heavy late.

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That's a double.

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Yeah, we'll see.

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Might save it for, yeah.

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Let's talk about that then.

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So Timbers ORG ended up drawing.

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What can I say? 2-2 at home against L.A.FC ORG. Match started off in a very interesting way. Yuna Piper comes out to the National Anthem WORK_OF_ART, and there's a lot more information on his socials, if you want to learn more about, like, he basically had an apology that he was going to play it on the trumpet. He knows how to play the trumpet. He's played it in the past, but, I mean, usually he's on bagpipes, right? So it doesn't necessarily go to plan. I don't, how do you guys want to describe this? Because I don't want to say anything like me. I mean, he said it himself in his post.

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Like, he got nervous, basically had a panic attack up there.

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Because that's a lot of fucking people. So, like, this was, this was interesting because I had, I was in seats this week.

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And I was right above where he was playing it. So I'm like, oh, cool. He's like right down below us. I swear they had him out there, like, super early. And I thought he was on his unicycle for a while. I originally thought he was out of breath because he, like, they drug him out there too

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early or something. But it turns out he was, like, just getting over a cold. And then the nerves hit him. And it just completely fucked. He powered through whatever he could get out of it, which is incredible.

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Yeah. He's the only person I know that can try and put the national anthropant of 20,000 people with a Darth Vader mask and a trumpet, which is not even his first main instrument.

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Yeah. Yeah. Dude,

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like, guys got biggest pair of balls, man.

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Yeah, yeah. Respect, uh,

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Unipiper ORG. Everybody fucks up. It's all good, man.

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Yeah. I, you know what? I don't even think like, I mean, sure, he felt it wasn't great.

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Yeah, wait, it wasn't a fuck up, let's say. It was, could you guys hear it?

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A moment.

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From your guys?

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah. Okay. Well, I felt a little back, because I actually thought the Army was going to maybe start singing and there was a little bit, but not really.

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And I think it went away. There was a bit more. But I, I, I, I loved, to me

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though, like, see, I didn't expect perfection. I expected something Portland, and that's exactly what that was.It was a maker event thing, right? Like,

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it was a thing. A maker event?

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It was, it was a very kind of like handmade thing, right? Like that, and I loved it for that.Like, I feel like there was nothing more Portland than that. Like, I thought that was great. I thought it was, I really enjoyed it, actually. I feel like there was nothing more Portland than that.

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Like, I thought that was great. I thought it was, I thought it was, I felt bad that he felt bad. I thought it was fucking great.

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I really and genuinely liked it, to be honest.

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And if you thought it was insulting, go fuck yourself.

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Fair.

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Don't listen to our podcast.

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Have you not been listening? God damn it.

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Oh boy.

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Yeah, go fuck yourself.

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Nice.

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Yeah, I felt bad for him, but also like, I think it's mad props that he just kind of pushed through and kind of just,

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oh, yeah.

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He could have just like ran off.

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You know what I mean?

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That would have been really funny.

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However, however, I, it very much felt like a tim and Eric PERSON skit in a way in the best way possible that I was...

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It did.

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And I loved it for that.

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I was like, this is like so Tim and Eric PERSON.

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The Tim and Eric PERSON version ends with him running away.

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Yeah, that's true.

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And not even ends.

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Just everyone looking kind of confused after he runs away.

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Yeah.

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That's, oh, man, I love this sketch.

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I'm in.

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I don't know.

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We really have a spot for it.

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But I love, well, can cut this if you want.

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But I think of kind of fun as she interviews the interview.

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No, well, kind of invite Unipiper ORG if he wants to come on the podcast.

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He just fucking plays the bagpipes in the room.

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Well, I mean, you know, we could do a little bit of Tash ORG and do redemption.

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Well, I was actually thinking like it would be.

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There are hundreds of listeners.

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Yeah.

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Tossons of us. I was actually thinking in the front be... There are hundreds of listeners. Yeah. dozens of us.

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I was actually thinking the front office should give him another shot.

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Yeah.

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I think we should do, if anything, I think we should do like a TA like petition to have the Unipiper ORG do it again and get a redo.

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Because I think that would be really fucking neat because the dude can do it.

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We know that's the case.

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And have them come down in front of the north end.

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We'll help them out. Yeah, yeah. I think it'd down in front of the north end. We'll help them out.

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Yeah, yeah, there you go.

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I think it'd be a lot of fun.

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Yeah.

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More to come on that.

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Yeah.

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But by the way, only my second time seeing him in the wild, too.

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Really?

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Once in the wild, yeah.

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Oh, wow.

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Yeah, I'm shocked.

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You never just hanging out on Hawthorne FAC and he goes by just...

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Downtown.

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That's reasonable because if you think about it, like, when he was, like, really popular and, like, all over the was when arum was up and yeah yeah so yeah we've probably had all right anyway it was actually a soccer match that actually happened to but what a way to open it yeah yeah so timbers actually i mean we can break this down into like each half i just kind of took some notes on this we can just kind of talk about the game in general. Outside of something we'll get to in the second half, I think this was

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the Timber's best performance of the season. Specifically, Evander, and I thought Mosquara PERSON had a

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pretty good game. We said he was going to get torched. And I'm going to, I see, okay, I disagree

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slightly with the mascara had a thing. I watched the replay

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of their first goal.

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Oh, he's definitely

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at fault for his first goal.

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Just like he's nowhere to be seen.

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Well, I'm sorry,

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he's nowhere near where he should be

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to do any sort of prevention.

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I think that first goal for LASC

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is a combination of two things.

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One, it's a great run

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and a great ball.

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Yep.

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And two, it's just the one time,

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and we've done this all season.

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It doesn't matter who it is. It seems like someone just switches off and it leads to a goal one time. And we've done this all season. It doesn't matter who it is. It seems like someone just switches off and it leads to a goal every time. And that was exactly that. And I think it's, it's a Raho. We're going to go with Arajo tonight. Did you guys listen to the one thing when they did the announcements?I missed it.

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And I was like, I was waiting for it. I listened to the announcements because in the seats I could actually hear.

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But they also said David Ayala PERSON. And I don't know if that's, I was told it was a shala.

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Maybe I'm wrong.

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But I was like, maybe I don't trust the stadium PA guy.

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Anyway. Yeah.

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So, I mean, neither of them pick them up, right? So, well, go ahead.

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Well, I remember, I just, just watched it. It was a, I think it's O'Raho PERSON goes, goes in to cover somebody on the inside, and then no,

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and then mascara is right, oh, fuck, right in between him and another person. And, like, should be going

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to cover. Bogush PERSON, who goes through and scores. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't. I think it's his job

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in that situation. I think it is. He's the only one that's not marking a man. I mean, yes, it, I think what's hard with this,

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we've talked about this is where the timbers have looked very vulnerable,

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is if you're going to be that centerback or defender and step and step up,

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you've got to make the play.

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And Raho PERSON, unfortunately, it's a good ball and a good play.

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But yeah, it completely just opened.

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Like there is, I mean, Kamala Miller PERSON, I think does what he can. I'm not as big on my scare on this one. If anyone, I think Arajo PERSON makes the mistake here. And I wouldn't, it's a soft mistake at that. I just think it's a little bit of, it's a good play.

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And it's a great finish. I mean, if it ain't Cray Po PRODUCT, I think it could be a little better, I'm honest. I mean, Crapeau ORG didn't have his best game.

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No, that's a whole other thing we'll talk about in a minute. But yeah.

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On the other side of things, I thought Evander PERSON was incredible.

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He definitely had one of his best games, if not his best game as a timber.

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And I keep saying that every week, which is crazy.

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And probably the best thing we've had all year is the fact that Evander PERSON has been getting better and better with each game.

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I mean, the goal is incredible.

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Just the chest volley.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. I mean, let's just. What a finish. I mean, yeah. Just in general,. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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I mean, let's just.

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What a finish.

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I mean, yeah.

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Just in general, I do want to talk about the assist in the goal.

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However, I will say just, for me, it seemed like a vander on the ball this game was just, it seemed like it went another gear.

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Like, it just seemed like you could knock.

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He looked.

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It was really funny.

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Actually, just, maybe it was the hair. I don't know. He just looked like, like stronger. Like, he looked big, like more than, it's really funny. Actually, just, I just, maybe it was the hair, I don't know. He just looked like, like, stronger. Like, he looked big, like, more than like I've, like, I've really noticed before. It just seemed like, I was like, fuck, this guy is not losing the ball today. He was another, this is, I think, his best game for results and also, I think, what he did in the run of play.I mean, fucking bossed the game, I thought. I thought he really, like, not like we've said before. This is, this is the different type of Andrew PERSON, I think.It's not like a Vlari or a Blanco. It's going to look very different. But I just thought he was so, a little bit sometimes how Nagby PERSON would look sometimes in games, you know, where I think Nagby PERSON would,I think does a lot of the, the things that are very subtle and very, you know, I would say they don't necessarily always result in, in a goal or a chance creation. But I thought did just a lot. It just seemed like he just, yeah, just seemed like he was not going to lose the ball that day. Hey, man, we saw the dude smile. So I'm happy. Yeah. I mean, he had some

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energy in this one too. Like, yeah, the celebration when, like, he scores that one. He runs over and

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pounds his chest. I was like, oh my God, this guy actually has some emotion for once.

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It's off of a mascara actually. Yeah, a little, little floaty pass from mascara. I was like, oh my God, this guy actually has some emotion for once. It's off of a mascara actually. Yeah, a little floaty pass from mascara. I mean, the two goals we

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scored were great. The funniest thing was like we, did they officially confirm it for Mora? Because in the stadium, they gave it to Mora. I don't know if they changed it in the end.

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It doesn't almost look like he gets a touch. I think Mora got it. I think he does get a touch.

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Okay. Yeah, it's so close. It's hard to tell. I think Moran PERSON got it. I think he does get a touch. Okay.

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Yeah, it's so close.

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It's hard to tell.

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I, but I kind of love in this, too, you know, considering Hugo Lurice PERSON goalkeeper, see, the second one is like,boy, paging doctor disrespect. I mean, like,

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fucking smashed it over it.

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It was like,

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fuck you.

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Honestly,

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could have had the third,

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right?

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Because he smashes it off the crossbar.

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And Hugo Loreses PERSON is just like nowhere to be found.

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He's just kind of like, oh, fuck.

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And it just, I mean, that thing rattled the crossbar too.

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It was quite a strike.

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I was going to point that out, actually. Is that the closest we've actually come to a hat trick? Because I would put that down to maybe four inches is how close we came to a hat trick.

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Evander didn't get the first goal.

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Yeah, he didn't attend. But it was a fraction of an inch that would have gone in

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because Larice PERSON isn't going to go for it if he doesn't.

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The more a goal,

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right,

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that's a fraction of an inch of that being a Vander ORG's goal, really. Oh, yeah, fair. And then the free kick, like, we were literally four or five inches from the first hat trick. Very close. Very close.Very close.

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And I would have picked the wrong person.

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By the way,

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that's funny.

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I should do that now since we're talking hat tricks.

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So we decided before the pod, because last pod, if you've listened, I made my crazy shit

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prediction being that Mora would get the first Timbers Hat trick. And Matt PERSON mentioned that, yeah, it's going to be a double shot. So we agreed to the rules before this pod because we didn't really think it through at that point look man we'd had how much to drink at that point yeah yeah

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so so the way it's going to work is if one of us calls for a hat trick as our crazy prediction if we're wrong we have to take a shot if we're right if it actually happens the other people have to take two shots it It'll be a double shot. So I will gladly take my shot now because I didn't get mine right. And we have the ancient bottle ofChavis Regal from the 80s. This stuff's pretty good. I actually like it. Even though it's not fancy.

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Don't worry about it.

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You're enjoying it.

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It probably is is higher quality whiskey

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than

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what you can kind of get now

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it's a 12 year going on 40

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because Scotch ORG didn't have the popularity

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in the video it does not

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cheers

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it's also weird too

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because it's like

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I'm so used to like really peety scotches and it's not well

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yeah most scotch i mean the bulk of it isn't isn't peedy yeah but that's what i'm used to drinking

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so when i have this i'm like oh yeah i forgot that you can get scotch it's not not pety all right

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other things from the first half you guys think of anything else that was important i mean i i

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thought i wouldn't say we we we definitely didn't dominate the game.

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We controlled the game.

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I thought we were well good for our lead.

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Like, well good, I thought.

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Yeah.

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No, I thought this was maybe not. Well, I will say about it in the first half. And I think that Matt Doyle PERSON pointed this out of just like that little bit of on the ball. And I'll say, you know, kind of possession-mindedness that Aroha PERSON has is the difference. The one thing I noticed that we probably talked about a couple pods ago was like when McGrath was on the ball, how frightened he was. He was just, you know, just sideways pass.

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Yeah. Raho just seemed a lot more comfortable, you know, with Kamala Miller PERSON is great on the ball. But I will say that I think the way this team is setting up to play to play a lot of those diagonals, just like we got essentially the two goals. I think you're going to see that more from deep and in different games and different opponents. I think you'll see that a bit more.Tactically, I thought we were pretty switched on, I thought, in the first half. I mean, it was a good half to serve to lead. I mean, I don't know what else I can really say. I mean, maybe, if anything, maybe we can come to this at the end of, it does make you wonder a little bit about, you know, if you've got your,everyone's at full fitness of Moreno Amora having a place in the starting 11. Because that, boy, I mean, I thought this, this to me feels like our best, um, you could say maybe parades for Jala PERSON.I thought Jala was good in the first half. I didn't have no problems there.

Speaker 51002.88s - 1013.82s

We should probably talk about Ajala PERSON. So there was a quote after the game that Ajala PERSON came off because he was just gassed. So he's like clearly not up to like full match fitness in terms of his recovery and everything.

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So that is something to watch. And I think I think that is good for now because that does give us, force us into a bit more of a rotation, make sure everybody's staying fresh because we are going to need to rotate guys.

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Like I don't think this is going to be one of those geo type teams where or really more Caleb Porter type teams where it's like here's your 11 every week in and out.

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Where I think we're finally going to get to and I think Phil will buy into this is we're starting to slowly get to that point where we're going to be able to start play players on matchups and things versus like out of necessity here's our best 11 right like we're finally at like a we now have it seems

Speaker 11049.88s - 1056.16s

like a best 14 15 right so that means we we do have a lot of guys that you know in antony FAC or

Speaker 51056.16s - 1060.44s

you know if antony needs a break me we do play marino and we switch it up and start marino

Speaker 11060.44s - 1069.12s

and asprea PRODUCT or something right yeah i think that's a good good problem to have it's not one we've had in quite a while. It seems like we've been on life support the last couple years.

Speaker 41069.26s - 1070.08s

It's not one we've had.

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It's been a few years, yeah.

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Think about like 2015.

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I mean, you had a Rudy and you had a Audi and you had a Audi, right?

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Yeah.

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So, I mean, and we had some other players in that mix that we could rotate in and out,

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like midfielders, things like that.

Speaker 31084.46s - 1085.12s

So I think that's closer to where, I think we're in, other players in that mix that we could rotate in and out like midfielders things like that like so i i

Speaker 11085.12s - 1092.32s

think that's closer to where i think we're we're in a better situation than than that right now i

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think now we just got to figure out the the defensive situation but you know going going into halftime

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feeling pretty good come out a half time a crazy moment we'll talk a bit in depth about it, but you guys are going to love this. So I would

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have had the perfect view of this play. If I hadn't had to go pick up my jersey that I bought for the in-game pickup thing, missed the fucking red card, missed all of it.

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I got back to my seat as they're celebrating the goals. Are you fucking kidding? I would have had like the perfect angle to be like, you know, it was on side or not or, you know, the, so anyway, Crapo PERSON ends up getting a red for dogs though. And interesting enough, this is not the first time this has happened this season for LAFC. If you remember from our preview of them, Joe Willis only a few weeks ago for Nashvillealso had a dogso red for the same kind of

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challenge. I think it was his was about like a foot and a half QUANTITY outside the box. Ours was like on the box. Ours is borderline, but the hit itself actually happened outside. Yeah. Yeah. There's

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there was a lot of things on this play that I think a lot of people had opinions about there was talks about being offside. There was talks about it being not even Dogzo PERSON. There's talks about it being a penalty. They vart it. It was a quick var check. They give the red. Do you think it's the right call? And what are the things that, if it's not a red to you, what is it that you would stand on? So I think

Speaker 11179.44s - 1196.3s

I think in the spirit of the play, it's a very close dogso. very close. I almost would have given that a yellow because of defenders covering. I think the only argument you can make is that even though they're, because he's technically not the last man back at the time.

Speaker 01196.3s - 1230.8s

So that usually is, I think because he's goalkeeper is the only reason I think that that is, and I think that because there, he's got if, if Bwanga goes around him, you know, that he's got, he's probably going to have a clear shot on goal unless someone leaps like four or five feet. Like I think, which I guess you could say is what it could have should. It could have happened. But I would say in the spirit, I think the call was right. In the spirit of the game, it ruined the game for me, to be honest. I thought it was a really good game and i it absolutely affected the outcome obviously and i it definitely felt like so one of

Speaker 11230.8s - 1234.72s

the big things is i don't know if you guys is this is a penalty actually that's not a red card yeah

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so that that that is the one thing i felt that this is the rare situation that you know this

Speaker 01241.4s - 1246.48s

came up on redid of maybe should the wall jump here i think it's a great free kick, but still, there is a question there.

Speaker 51246.86s - 1262.4s

So there was a lot of talk about that. I don't know if it was a quote or if I just read someone talking about it. The extra man we would have had on that play is the guy laying down behind the wall. And we didn't have that, right? Because LASC ORG brought so many players forward. They took away our ability.

Speaker 11262.68s - 1273.32s

We would have someone uncovered. That's interesting. So we either go one less person in the wall, we could have done and had someone lay down or that extra person we lost from the red card would have been the person laying down and they would

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have been able to jump yeah so i don't know it's yeah it's i thought it was the whole thing was

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unfortunate i think there's a little big i thought tactically and we've talked about this high line

Speaker 51284.2s - 1290.16s

and this is likely to happen i mean, you could say that maybe this is like one of

Speaker 11290.16s - 1311.72s

those moments that, you know, this is going to happen once a game, you know, or twice a game, and it just happened to be, I mean, because I thought, well, you know, is this a little bit of the timber just switching off right at the start of the first half and not quite be, I'm not sure it's exactly that. I thought it was a really good well-play. I thought it was very lucky, because it could have been off-side. Like, I mean, if Mora, or, I'm sorry,Mora Bravo PERSON isn't holding him on. Like, he's, like, he's jumped the line.

Speaker 51311.88s - 1322.02s

He's a yard off, if not. Like, we did get, like, confirmation that, like, using the geometry and all that stuff, someone said it was, like, an eighth of an inch

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offside. Yeah, someone else I read it, right?

Speaker 51324.44s - 1326.28s

Yeah, and I was like, you know

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and that's the ruling on the field

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is going to stand. I don't have any qualms about that.

Speaker 11330.28s - 1346.16s

Like I don't have any I will say, and this is more of a bigger concern and a worry and this happened in the first half I actually noticed is let's make it, let's, I'm going to make a just an observationbefore I get my opinion. Crapo PERSON is not confident. Actually, that's, I guess I'm an opinion.

Speaker 61346.7s - 1350.16s

He does not appear for confidence when he comes off his line.

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Or, because I'd say there is a play. I think Arajo fucking calls Crapo come get the ball in the first half. That's where he kind of goes over there. I think that's the guy gets booked. I actually thought it was a soft booking for L-A-F-C. It happened right in the front of us in the wait, man.

Speaker 51364.9s - 1367.9s

I mean, he pushes him over. Yeah, us in the wait, man. I mean, he pushes him over. Yeah, yeah, but

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yes, he does. Yes, he does. Here's the

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big thing. In my mind, that is more of a red than a lot of other things because you caused a serious collision that people could get hurt and like he intentionally

Speaker 01379.82s - 1387.14s

did it. Yeah. It's not like I'm protecting myself. It was intent behind it. Regardless how soft it is, it's just like studying someone in need. It's an aggravated foul. If you do it. Yeah. It's not like I'm protecting myself. It was intent behind it. Regardless how soft it is, it's just like studying someone with me.

Speaker 11387.14s - 1388.28s

It's an aggravated foul.

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If you do it intentionally, it's in bad faith, right?

Speaker 11392.08s - 1394.38s

That's, that's, that's, that's, yeah, we're, whereas, it was a yellow.

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Whereas Creepos PRODUCT was not intentional, he's very obviously going to, to.

Speaker 11398.4s - 1398.72s

Yeah.

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To.

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And that's, but crepeos one LAW is a technicality.

Speaker 51402.68s - 1402.88s

Right.

Speaker 41403.1s - 1408.04s

Right. Yeah. No, I'm not saying you shouldn't have had the... Yeah. Well, maybe he shouldn't have had the red. I don't know.

Speaker 11408.24s - 1415.1s

Yeah. I didn't want him to. But that play was an example of little of things to come of, of why is Oroko PERSON calling for Crape PERSON to come get the ball?

Speaker 01415.3s - 1422.74s

Like, it should be the other way around. And it just, even there was a ball, like, that one that was hit from distance that Crepe PERSON almost gets caught, like, wrong-footed here.

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Yeah. It's kind of sacks. I know they had a lot of buildup that talked about how this is going to be a big game from Boy PERSON, did not have a good game. But, but like, it's a red. It's definitely a foul.It's a fucking terrible tackle.

Speaker 51433.92s - 1438.74s

It's a gunfowlough, yeah. It is just, it is. So you're red. Red, no complaints.

Speaker 41438.74s - 1439.8s

Matt PERSON, where are you at?

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But unlucky.

Speaker 41441.9s - 1456.1s

I watched, see, I didn't watch it that closely during the game, but I watched the recap and watched it a couple times and it's just, yeah, I mean, it's a fucking bad hit. It's not intentional.

Speaker 51456.64s - 1471.52s

Yeah, but it's a foul. It's a foul, for sure, 100%. Not going to deny that. I would have hate had that been, had that offside been given a little bit because it's, I always hate those kind of offside because it's not like.

Speaker 41472.36s - 1473.16s

It wasn't egregious.

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There wasn't egregious.

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It was like basically there.

Speaker 51476.24s - 1479.16s

An eighth of an inch, right, with the geometry and what that.

Speaker 41480.16s - 1480.24s

Yeah.

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I mean, I originally, when I looked at it online, I thought maybe it was offside when I, like, because I'm sitting at my scene.

Speaker 41487.8s - 1489.54s

I'm like, I didn't get to see any of it happen.

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I'm like, so I'm looking it up. I originally thought it was offside watching it on a replay of it.

Speaker 41495.52s - 1497.34s

Just the lame is kind of offside, though.

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Yeah.

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It is.

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I'm okay with it not being offside.

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I actually would have gone yellow. And the reason I would have gone yellow is for two reasons. One, the players are covering, and I think they do have an opportunity to get back.

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Because, two, Buonga's touch is so heavy and away from goal in a way that it's going to take him at least a second or two to be able to get there and get a shot off. And it might not be an accurate shot if he's rushing it. I think there's a good opportunity that those guys can at least get to the line. And in my mind, that's not Dogzo. The other week, when Evander PERSON gets pulled back and the two players are even, we said that wasn't Dogzo PERSON because there is a good enough chance that that guy

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gets back in time. I think the same thing occurs here where those guys are recovering and they're already kind of past Prey Po PERSON at the time of the challenge. I think they have the opportunity to get in position to at least make a play on the ball. Yes, they're not a goalkeeper.

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But I think that actually the touch itself throws it kind of in a loop for me because either he's intentionally looking to get the contact and that's the case, then it's simulation, right?

Speaker 01562.5s - 1564.76s

If he's trying to draw the contact, he kicks it away

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and he's not really playing the ball, right? Or he takes a wide touch. I think that takes dogso out of the question, but I think it's fair.

Speaker 51574.3s - 1574.5s

Yeah.

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The one thing I do want to point out about off sides in this game, I am so fucking sick of it.

Speaker 51579.68s - 1588.06s

And I know we were praising it the other year of I am so sick of them not calling offside until the play is completely done when it's well

Speaker 01588.06s - 1594.12s

offside. Like they need to fucking stop this. They've turned it into more of a crutch of like they don't want to make a decision

Speaker 51594.12s - 1606.2s

and it's not in the spirit of the game to be like, okay, if it's close, let it play out. These are like, there's some offside calls in this game where there were guys four or five feet offside and they let the entire play play out.

Speaker 21606.82s - 1608.7s

And eventually someone's made a waste of time, right?

Speaker 61608.94s - 1610.2s

Yeah. Well, people are getting hurt.

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It's happened in previous years, right?

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Like, that's like my one gripe. I thought the officiating in this game was pretty bad. But the one thing I noticed that I was expecting an early call for L-A. in the second half is at the end of the second half, I don't remember if it was Bwanga PERSON. I think it was Bwanga. It goes down on the right side and goes down at the end and like the whistle blows, right? And he's like, four or five Lafc players get up around the referee and work him for about five minutes. The entire field is cleared. They're

Speaker 51641.46s - 1647.72s

still working him. And Chara PERSON comes back out to talk, and the second Chara PERSON comes up, they all vanished, right?

Speaker 61648.76s - 1649.88s

We don't do that.

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And I think this is something people have to get used to this season. This is the kind of officiating we're going to get, because we do not do that, right? We've talked a lot about this on the podcast of, like, your captain has to really represent you and your interests and your team when it comes to dealing with the referee, right?

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Yeah.

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A lot of these teams, and especially LAAFC, that it seemed like that is part of their strategy this year, and there's some stats to back that up. They work the referee pretty hard. They're definitely in the boat of we're going to try to make them make hard decisions. They had 22 fouls against the Galaxy ORG. They had 20 fouls against us. They have, I think, six yellows andone red already this season. They have 146 fouls through eight games. So their goal is to just foul until the referee has to make a tough call, right? So we need to be prepared for that, and we don't do that. And this is like a big critique of Chara PERSON, and I'm hoping that if Evander is the future captain here, that he starts taking note of like, we need to be in that. We this is like a big critique of Chara and I'm hoping that if Evander PERSON is the future captain here that he starts taking note of like we need to be in that huddle with their players if that's

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happening. Right? Like you need to be there and make sure that it's not one-sided because that's what's

Speaker 51717.92s - 1729.64s

going to happen. These guys are just going to work the referee and the referees is going to start buying into it. These referees aren't like, I don't want to say like they don't have a backbone, but they really don't. If someone works them pretty hard,

Speaker 41729.7s - 1731.78s

we've seen this in previous years with other teams.

Speaker 21731.78s - 1743.74s

If you work the referee like that, you're going to get the calls. And unfortunate for us, that really didn't even come into play. The call he had to make was a pretty, I want to say an easy one,

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but I mean, it was going to be yellow or red. Yeah. You know, he went that way. And I think, even though I would have given the yellow, I don't think there's that big of an argument for a red. You know what I mean? No, I, I, I, I, I, I would say the same. I would say the exact same of, I think it's a very soft red. And I think I, there, there definitely was on the night. I really thought, I think

Speaker 61760.96s - 1765.42s

it's, it's a yellow. I have a question for YouTube, but Matt PERSON, did you want to add it anymore?

Speaker 41765.42s - 1777.9s

I've already forgotten everything. God damn it. So I have a question, though, and maybe someone is going to educate me here because I don't know those in terms of a VAR review with cards.Oh, I sure or shit. I'm not going to be the one to do that.

Speaker 11777.94s - 1783.5s

You know, so we're talking about the build up the play, right? Do you think...

Speaker 41783.5s - 1795.34s

Try not to. So having a red card here is obviously is going to change the play, right? Do you think... Try not to. So having a red card here is obviously going to change the game, right? And we've just kicked off the second deck. I think good referees, I think, manage the spirit of the game, right?In my opinion.

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Yeah.

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Should the referee, if they can, should they had gone to the monitor to see if it was really a red card or not before you even pull a card to go red or yellow? Can you not do that?I thought you could.

Speaker 51804.68s - 1810.12s

No, I think you have to make the call and then you, especially if it's in that situation as a

Speaker 11810.12s - 1811.32s

referee, you want to give the red.

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Because if you don't, you can only check to see if it needs to be upgraded to a red or not.

Speaker 01816.72s - 1828.72s

Yeah. Right. Versus his initial thought is do the red, right? Because he can always reverse it back to a yellow. He can also change the call completely. But there's a lot of those scenarios that if it's not red, if it's just a yellow,

Speaker 51834s - 1839.68s

and it's not a red card worthy thing, they're not going to var it. Sure. Right. So I actually think giving the red is actually the right call here so that he has every ability to go check and do

Speaker 11839.68s - 1846.28s

whatever he needs to do versus if he give the yellow and the protest is it should be upgraded to red

Speaker 51846.28s - 1851.4s

then you can check it but if it's not if if there's not a clear and obvious error there then he's

Speaker 01851.4s - 1856.42s

stuck with the yellow right yeah and i i i guess i hate that for that reason of of the

Speaker 11856.42s - 1861.66s

there should be a better process to this yeah because because i'm with you i think i'd be

Speaker 51861.66s - 1867.88s

conservative here again managing the game it's been ch. It was not a malicious foul, right?

Speaker 11868s - 1869.58s

Like, it wasn't like, obviously it's dot.

Speaker 01869.62s - 1871.82s

But I think that's the thing of like, if you take a moment, you're right.

Speaker 11872.26s - 1889.42s

I think that's the problem, I think, with us of like, is it really wrong here? Like, would, well, do you think, well, if we don't know, I guess. But do you think that if a yellow is pulled, do you think that, you know, that would have gotten Vard and gone to a red I don't know that it would have I if it would have if it would

Speaker 51889.42s - 1892.36s

have got Vard PRODUCT I don't know he changes it to a red right right right it's clear

Speaker 11892.36s - 1897.16s

and obvious enough right yeah so I I don't hate the idea that he gives the red

Speaker 51897.16s - 1901.96s

first to ensure that they have the correct process to go through and invalidated

Speaker 11901.96s - 1907.92s

if they need to yeah what I hate is that the center referee gets the final decision here because you have multiple

Speaker 51907.92s - 1909.28s

referees that could be in it.

Speaker 01909.36s - 1920.96s

I know a lot of people have mentioned this online. I saw some Timbers ORG fans talking about it as well as other fans, but it should just be a committee of people on VAR, the three referees or whatever that are on VAR to say,

Speaker 51920.96s - 1926.18s

hey, we decided this is not a penalty or this is a penalty. It shouldn't be the center official.

Speaker 21926.18s - 1948.64s

You have three people. You can create an unbiased panel of three people because if you go back to the LAFC ORG game against the galaxy, all three VAR ORG officials are all the VAR officials said this is not a penalty and it should be a yellow for simulation. The center referee didn't want to admit his error and still gave the penalty and completely fucked that whole game up.

Speaker 01948.88s - 1955.52s

They shouldn't have that power. If there's three unbiased people, I mean, you have three biased people, I guess, too, technically.

Speaker 41955.76s - 1958.16s

But, I mean, it's going to be a lot harder to justify that.

Speaker 51958.16s - 1962.74s

Look, this is Don Garber's MLS ORG. Having a dictator on the field kind of makes sense. Yeah.

Speaker 41962.94s - 1970.56s

I mean, if you want a result. So anyway, that's enough about officiating. We should get off that. Timbers ORG do a great job to close this game out.

Speaker 11970.62s - 1978.58s

Yeah. Like, they really did put a pretty impressive game together. Evander PERSON going to the strikers pop for a while. I don't know if you guys noticed that, but that was kind of interesting.

Speaker 41978.58s - 1982.14s

Chara PERSON right back? Charra PERSON right back. I love that idea, by the way.

Speaker 51982.5s - 1983.3s

Charra PERSON right back.

Speaker 41983.6s - 1983.88s

Yeah.

Speaker 51984s - 1984.2s

Yeah.

Speaker 41984.62s - 1989.28s

Yeah. I would love that because then we could play Perettas, Williams, and Evander PERSON,

Speaker 51989.48s - 1992.44s

or, and still have Char PERSON out there as you're right back, right?

Speaker 41992.44s - 1996.32s

Yeah. I mean, I, I like that idea, but we'll have to see.

Speaker 61996.86s - 2001.16s

Yeah, I, I thought, I mean, the timbers looked, I thought just as, like,

Speaker 42001.2s - 2003.46s

they looked very competitive with 10 men.

Speaker 62003.68s - 2005.42s

Yeah, I agree with you

Speaker 02005.42s - 2009.44s

like like we were saying it's one of the most solid performances i think we've seen

Speaker 52009.44s - 2016.18s

yeah this year's out of the back um and eventually we'll get like a regular game that doesn't

Speaker 02016.18s - 2021.16s

have either a crazy second half or a crazy decision or whatever because we really haven't had

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on yeah yeah all right timbers now head on to the road.

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They now play three games away.

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We're going to talk here in a minute about Columbus ORG,

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but they have to go cross country back and forth.

Speaker 52032.24s - 2065.56s

So they have to go to Columbus ORG. Then they come back to L.A.F.C. And then they go back across to Charlotte GPE. So it's going to be kind of a weird couple weeks for the team, three weeks for the team. Didn't get the win we wanted before we went on the road.But I think we did create that impression with LAFC ORG that they need to be kind of scared of us when we do go to their place. And we can definitely get a result from them. What are your guys' thoughts on this three-game road trip? I kind of feel like we should talk about what we're really looking for and what how many points we think we need to get out of this road

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trip because this is kind of a weird one too because we only have one western conference game

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mixed in there with two eastern games and maybe those are winnable eastern games we'll have to

Speaker 02076.12s - 2081.06s

talk more about that but yeah it's interesting bonus points is what you're asking yeah like how

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how many bonus points or should we even consider getting bonus points?

Speaker 52086.8s - 2086.92s

I mean, we should always try to get points, right? Yeah.

Speaker 42087.24s - 2089.16s

But what is realistic in your eyes?

Speaker 22089.82s - 2091.46s

So I, Matt, you want to go first?

Speaker 42091.5s - 2093.68s

I got thoughts on this, but I always go first.

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First of all, fuck LA GPE.

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We're getting three points there.

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I've got to do it.

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Nice.

Speaker 12098.38s - 2100.1s

Nice. We don't have to do it. I don't really care.

Speaker 52100.14s - 2129.08s

I want to see an L-AFC red card for Dogzo PERSON. That's right. Against Columbus, I'm a little bit worried because we don't have Crapo PERSON. But, you know, honestly, the other guy, what's his name? Pantamus PERSON. Pantanus PERSON.Pantamus PERSON. Pantamus PERSON. James Pantamis PERSON. That is fun to say. So Pantamus PERSON, did it right? Yeah.Good. He did really well, and maybe I shouldn't be that worried about him.

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I mean, he's Crapos backup on the Canadian NORP national team. Yeah. So that's not a bad. Yeah.

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And going into Columbus ORG is kind of a jump forward, playing his former coach also. Oh, yeah, well, for Nancy PERSON.

Speaker 42144.14s - 2156.92s

Yeah. Yeah. Overall, I think we should definitely three points from LAFC ORG. I'd like to see at least, let's say, four points from three games. Okay.

Speaker 12157.72s - 2159.32s

That's fair. Aaron?

Speaker 42159.32s - 2174.94s

So I, yeah, I just think this team has been getting better and better. I actually think a little bit of, this is going to sound strange, but I actually think if we can just get, maybe this last week was a little bit of a versy, a bit of confidence, I do think that this team actually might be a better road teamthan a home team at times.

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And I just think because I had to play from deep, we can,

Speaker 12178.68s - 2189.28s

I mean, that was the one thing in this game is that we show that we can play a low block when you see a man down. Like, that's something we've not,well, we haven't said all season. Like, we've not been very good, and I thought we'd be great. Yep.

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So I think, we'll get more into predictions, but I think actually just because we have

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Columbus ORG's number historically, I think we're going to get, we're going to win at Columbus. I think we're going to draw at L.A.F.C. And I think we're going to draw at Charlotte GPE. I'm quite bullish on this team. I really am. I think it's just all going to click in the way we didn't expect in a lot.

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So you're thinking five out of three? Five points out of three games?

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I'm thinking five points out, five from nine.

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Yeah, five from nine points possible. And by the way, this is pretty fucking bold because neither Columbus or Charlotte GPE have lost at home this season, both are three-on-one.

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But I think we'll get more into the Columbus ORG game, but I just feel like this is a trap game for Columbus in a way. Like I really do. They're a great team, by the way. Like they are like arguably, well, they're in the semifinals, which might help us a little bit in the,in the Champions League ORG. Arguably, I think when they're at full tilt, they are the best team in this league. So hard place to go, but I just feel like this is so freaking MLS ORG. Yeah. Something weird is going to happen. But I am. I think L.A.F.C hard place to go, but I just feel like this is so freaking MLS ORG. Yeah.

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Something weird is going to happen. But I am. I think L-AFC, recency bias, we were the better team on Saturday, I thought, when we were 11-on-11, and we held our own against 10-on-11. So I think we can get to go get a point in Los Angeles. I mean, you know, they'll miss the first 15 minutes.

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They'll leave for the last 15 minutes, so we don't worry about the crowd.

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Just like Laker ORG games.

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Hey.

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Yeah.

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But, and I just think Charlotte GPE, why the fuck not?

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We'll just go get a point. All right.

Speaker 52273.26s - 2291.28s

Sounds good. I would love, I feel like it is possible for us to get seven points on this trip. I realistically think four to five is what the expectation is, but I think we really could get seven. We'll talk a bit more about schedule congestion for Columbus ORG and what their rotation.

Speaker 22291.58s - 2327s

Granted, they have a very deep team. They look very good regardless of who's on the field. I think there's an opportunity that we could get three points there. And I don't disagree with you. And I think we do have a little bit of their number. And maybe it's just the finally we get a game to click for us, right?Yep. So I think we could get three points there. I think we're actually going to get a draw at L.AFC ORG. And I actually think we'll beat both unbeaten at home teams in this road trip. Wow. A little skeptical of Charlotte GPE, they've had some lesser opponents come through there,and I think that's...

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Fiasing the results? They're definitely a better team they have been in previous years, because in previous years they've not been very good at all. But they do have some better players. We're not going to jump too much into them, because we'll preview them in a couple weeks.But we should start talking about the Columbus ORG crew, since that is the Timbers ORG next opponent. So Timbers ORG are heading to lower.com field, which I almost didn't believe that was the name. Yeah, I had to verify.

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Yeah. Head coach is Wilfred PERSON. Did you say Nancy PERSON? Yeah.

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I thought it was Nancy PERSON. Maybe it's Nancy PERSON. Wilfred Nancy PERSON. It could be Nancy PERSON because that wouldn't make sense. He played his entire career in France GPE. Yeah.

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I think a nonce like the city. Yep. That't make sense he played his entire career in france funny yeah yeah i think i'm not saying like the city yep that would make sense oh look at me i'm air and i'm so well traveled fuck off he coached montreal GPE coached in montreal for

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quite a long time actually from 2011 to 22 he had four or five years in the academy from 2011 to 2015 then moved on to be an assistant coach from 2016 to 2021. And then he was head coach from 2021 to 2022. Until then, he ended up moving over to the crew. And is kind of widely regarded as one of the best coaches in the league, I think, at this point.

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Which is pretty impressive because, I mean, I don't know why Montreal ORG got rid of him, but you know, whatever.

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Yeah.

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Ask Jesse Marsh PERSON. Yeah.

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That's whatever you do.

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We'll talk a bit about their table standing.

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So they're currently sitting in fourth on 13 points in the east, which doesn't sound incredible.

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When you consider how many games they've played this season and a lot of the matches they've played. That is pretty impressive to be up there.

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Here's a wild stat.

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Their last five games have all been draws.

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That is a wild stat.

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They had a no-nil draw away at RSL ORG. They had a one-all draw against Tigres ORG. And then they had a one-all draw against DC where they went down to 10 men because Chucho Hernandez PERSON decided to stud a guy on a knee. So they ended up going down to 10 men and then equalizing to get back to one all.So they scored with 10 men. So that tells you a bit about how good they are. They had the other game against Tigray's with a true 1-1, I believe. And they also had a two-all draw away at Nashville GPE. And they ended up having to win on penalties against Tigray's to go through, which is also important because yesterday it was announced that they played their next leg of Champions Cup, what, four or five days after four days after we play them. So that also adds more scheduled congestion again.They've been every week, they've just been like lined up with different,

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different games back to back.

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Here's a formation for you. They play a three, four, two, one. So I think that's the first time we've ever talked about that formation on the pod.

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But essentially they play a back three and then they have a flat four.

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Yeah, they play a flat four essentially. And then two guys sitting behind a striker. Key players, you might know him, Darlington Nagby, former Timbers Midfield, also captain of the Columbus ORG group. Diego Rossi, former L.A.F.C. ORG stand out. He signed as a DP in last year. And then I can't remember if he got injured, but he only played like a handful of games.And he's back this year. I mean, he looks really good again yau yaboa PERSON I had I had to pronounce that correct he is one of their good attacking left side players got four assists on the season fantastic player it usually goes out left and then obviously chucho hernandez Colombian NORP international striker

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a lot of drama this season with him.

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He had the red card we mentioned the other week.

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He also has been benched and suspended by his coach at times this season already for undisclosed reasons. And funny enough, Wilfred PERSON, well to say Wilfred, because I'm not going to pronounce last name wrong, has completely deflected all the questions about this and all the press conferences.

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So it's been kind of like a fucking mess.

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So yeah, that's kind of like where they're at with Chucho PERSON. It sucks, too, because he's like, he's a fantastic player.

Speaker 02575.7s - 2575.9s

Yeah.

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But it's like his head is just fucking gone right now, which might play out in our favor. Some other notable players to talk about Aidan Morris, long time midfielder sitting in the midfield with Nagby for, I think, six or seven seasons. He's having a good year as well. He had a good goal the other day. He's got, I think, a couple of goals and a couple assists so far. And then Jason Russell Rowe PERSON, who has been their backup striker, who's actually played very well.He's played there for like two or three years, and he's kind of been their backup striker the whole time. But he's had to start in a lot of these other games because of all the rotation. He's looked pretty good. You got a goal the other week. So my other little tidbit notes that I put on here, the crew have played a lot of games the last few weeks, kind of already talked about that.It's really been they've played a fuckload of games this season.

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Yeah. Their next game is against Monterey GPE, so a big fucking game. That's on Wednesday, the 24th. Another note that I kind of earmarked is like, they've given up a lot of chances. Like, if you watch a lot of their highlights, they give up a lot of chances and a lot of teams are struggling to finish against them. Like, RSL ORG had a boatload of very scorable chances they couldn't convert.

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But they're also really susceptible on the counter. And I think that's really important for this Timbers ORG team because if they're going to play, sit deep and play quick, if we have all that speed, right, on the outsides or even now up the middle, if we have Jonathan PERSON up there, this might be an opportunity where the Timbers ORG could steal a result here. So, all right, that was a lot of stuff about the crew.

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I'm sorry, I blacked out. What happened? Yeah. What do you think, Matt PERSON?

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I think, I don't think.

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I think that the timbers have a tough job ahead of them in Columbus ORG.

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Like you said, they've looked very good this year.

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I haven't watched a ton. Just caught a little bit on Apple TV ORG. Use that MLS ORG pass, guys. I'm sorry.

Speaker 62688.34s - 2689.34s

Shilling over here.

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I mean, I'm ready with predictions.

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Like, that's where I'm at. Okay. We'll jump to Aaron really quick.

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Sure.

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You can go for some predictions, Matt PERSON.

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Sure, whatever.

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I don't care.

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So I think that...

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I'm hurt. I would appreciate... I think that the timbers should approach this game I did at L-A-F-C I like to see the samestarting 11 start I think Ajalah PERSON playing I think this is a game particularly if we want to play a little deeper and be a bit more particularly giving Jonathan Rodriguezroom to Rome didn't talk a lot about Jonathan I thought had a monster game you know what I love about him and Anthony PERSON in particular? They freaking track back and get stuck in.

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John PERSON, right?

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Oh my God, what a fucking bulldog. There's a couple of them, but Jesus Christ PERSON, like he really goes and wins a ball. I love that of works really hard. Just doesn't give a fuck. I love it.

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So I think, though, I think playing a little deeper, and I just think having, you know, we talked about, I think Aja PERSON is a great deep ball player, so is Diego Chara, so is Arajo, so is Kamal Miller PERSON. Those are four targets that can sit really centrally. They're able to spray balls to your attacking three.I think we can really get at the crew in this game. Just need to be patient. When we do have the ball, instead of what I think this has been kind of the big difference of, like we've seen the first half if it's going to go to a Jala PERSON or it'sgoing to go to a center back that's not Kamal Miller they need to be a bit more positive with it. This backline will get tired. It does tire that's where I think you do see those chances late and halves happen.So if the timbers can be a little more positive I think and just give the back line a bit of a breather and give a little more confidence to the rest of the team. I really think this is a very pivotal.

Speaker 42790.26s - 2797.28s

It's pivotal, but this is a winnable game, I think, actually, stupid as that might sound. I do think this is, I mean, you have to.

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We just don't fear anybody in this league, and we shouldn't. We're that good, I think.

Speaker 52800.6s - 2860.86s

I mean, Columbus ORG look very good. They've had a lot of games as of late. And I know they've had a week's rest here, right? Because they didn't have to play this week. I think they're going to have to rotate some pieces here. And I think they're not going to throw this game. But they're definitely going to have to rotate and expect that it's against a Westernconference team. I think we're going to see a second tier lineup. Now, their second tier lineup is still very good. So I think that is something we need to consider is like it's not going to be a walk in the park. We definitely their second tier lineup is still very good. So I think that is something we need to consider is like it's not going to be a walk in the park. We definitely have to go out there and earn it. But I think this is going to be a different Columbus ORG team than we're used toseeing or I'm used to seeing at least. I expect there's going to be a lot of rotation. Maybe you see half a game from certain guys or maybe they try to pile it on in the first 30 minutes and then bring guys off, right? Something like that. But I imagine they're going to want to take a bite at a Monterey GPE. So that being said, I think if I remember correctly, their first leg against Monterey GPE is also at home. So you have to think that they need to get a result at home, right, before going to Mexico GPE.

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So I would assume that we're going to see a weaker lineup and that's going to be an even more opportunity for us to pounce here. I don't think they're going to lay over, though, like any other team. So I think it's still going to be a tough match.

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Matt PERSON, what do you got for predictions? Predictions.

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I predict 4-0-win timbers.

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That's right.

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4-0-win.

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And the wild thing that will happen is Nagby PERSON will score an own goal in our honor.

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Nice.

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Possibly not an hour.

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Always a temper. Always a different. What do you got, Aaron? Nice. I'm going to go 2-0. I'm also going to go to the clean sheet.I think for a wild prediction, I think I'm going to be pretty conservative here. I'm going to say Jonathan PERSON scores a goal. I'm just going to say he scores a goal. I'm going to say goal and he's going to score a goal.

Speaker 52904.92s - 2913.46s

Okay. I'm going to go Timbers 3-1. And I'm going to say Jonathan PERSON scores a goal. I'm just going to say a goal. I'm going to say goal and he's going to score a goal. Okay. I'm going to go Timbers 3-1 and I'm going to go that Columbus ORG ends up getting a penalty. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay.

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So I just have a weird feeling that that seems like the kind of thing we'd do. It'd probably be

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like we're up three-nil and then we give up like a penalty in the 80. Yeah, right. When we

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really wanted that clean sheet. Yep, 100%. Fuck the confidence.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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Can I throw one more thing since a couple minutes?

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Yeah.

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It was Rally towel day when I cringed, when I saw that earlier in the season and my heart sank, you know what? My heart rose so much because I don't think anyone used them. No. I didn't see anyone use them.

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No, I didn't know.

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You know what? I didn't get one.

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I got one.

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I got a couple. It's basically a bar towel. Yeah. No, I didn't know. You know what? I didn't get one. I got one. I got a couple. It's basically a bar towel. Yeah. Which that's what I'm not calling a rally towel. Sebastian PERSON is using his as a TFO.

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So that's how he's using his. That's fair. That's fair. I think mine might end up being like a pocket disc golf towel. It's about that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. But it's definitely not a rally towel. But I, yeah, I'm glad because I think that was, that was the intent. There was also a $125 brunch. We were talking about.

Speaker 52973.12s - 2973.56s

Oh, yeah.

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You guys didn't do that?

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No.

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I did do some good brunch, by the way, before the game.

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I have a food review.

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Oh, wow.

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Scott PERSON's food reviews.

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I had stuff at the stadium.

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I think I saw that one.

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Toyota Terrace ORG or whatever.

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Did you do the value menu?

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I did not.

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I was going to have a hot dog and I did not.

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I had a mixed drink from the bar bit or whatever.

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Yeah.

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Very healthy pores compared to the rest of the stadium. I was impressed. I have the mashed potato bowl, which I don't know if you've seen that. It's a bowl of the stadium. I was impressed. I had the mashed potato bowl, which I don't know if you've seen that. It's a bowl of mashed potatoes.

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It's like drunk at like 11 o'clock in night.

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Yeah, well, I thought this is like,

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that's how,

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yeah.

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They got me because the picture on the sign

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looked pretty good. I mean, it was fine, but it was basically like, if you've ever had it.

Speaker 43021.08s - 3022.88s

It looks pretty good, guys. It looks pretty good.

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It looks pretty good. It looked actually good. It was like, okay, that actually looks pretty good. It doesn't look great. But, like, it looked actually good. I was like, okay, that actually looks pretty good. But they give it to you in such a big bowl that it feels like you don't get a lot.

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And you actually do get a decent amount.

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But it's basically the stadium's version of like a KFC bowl with like popcorn chicken, corn, mat-old.

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Oh, okay. It was fine. It was, like, quite a bit of buildup for. Yeah, it was all right. It was like 15 bucks, so it wasn't really worth it compared to the $4 hot dog. No scran.

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But they do have the private Killer Burger PRODUCT up there, though, which is dope.

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They do.

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I mean, there's a killer burger behind 107 FAC.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, but there's one on the Toyota Terrace FAC that no one's ever at.

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So you can just walk up and get food and walk away.

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It's incredible. So if you're going to the Toyota Terrace FAC, don't's ever at. So you can just walk up and get food and walk away. It's incredible. So if you're going to the Toyota Terrace, don't get a mashed potato book.

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We get a killer burger instead.

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Or several $4 hot dogs and have like a Costco ORG buffet. I don't know. Yeah.

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But that's all we have for this week.

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Thank you everybody for listening.

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Everybody say goodbye. Goodbye.

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Goodbye. Boles. Bulls.