Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes - Review (Spoiler Free)

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What a wonderful day. Are we thankful for the words of Caesar PERSON? We are thankful. Do we bend our hate? We bend. Say his words.Say his words. Say his words. What a wonderful day.

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And what a wonderful day. It is Todd PERSON. I am here with Sean PERSON,

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who is sitting in the heart of Dallas.

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We're doing this kind of old school

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where we aren't face to face.

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We haven't done this in a while, but high for Dallas.

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I sound a little different.

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Yeah, hello.

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How's it going up there?

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Trying to stay inside out of the heat.

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No shit. One of those kind of days already in Texas GPE. But the real news of why we're here is what One of those kind of days already in Texas GPE. But the real

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news of why we're here is what Sean and I got together to do last night. And that was,

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we saw a kingdom of the planet of the age. We saw a sneak of kingdom. One of those wonderful

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things when you sign up for enough of these, they come across. And we were fortunate enough to be

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able to snatch those up and wait in line with a lot of people who love to bitch and moan that I'm not going to get to see a free movie.

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Yeah, so before Sean PERSON got there, it was already the, I'm not going to get in, I'm not going to get in.

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The lady from AMC completely walked up and said, we're showing at two theaters.

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About 350 seats in each, you're going to get in.

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And still they complained.

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And then at the very end, one lady, did you hear the one that was really like yelling

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out, I'm too old to be standing in this line?

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Yes, yes.

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I mean, if I don't have my QR code, I've been, I've got my QR code, but I've been

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standing here, I better get in there.

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It's like, you're going to get in there.

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You're like at the, almost front of the line.

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And even with that, the person said, if you don't have a QR code,

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come talk to us. Come talk to me. They're going to let you in. They're going to find a way to let you in. The long story short, going to these previews is often a journey in and of itself.

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Simply, you're seeing a lot of people getting something for free, acting like a bunch of people

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getting something. Entitled people getting something entitled people yes so we go anyways we go into the theater uh just to give the complete what what there was also someone in line that i joked with sean i may throw it down with them because they had one of the loudest laughs

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i've ever heard of it was just grating and i said please don't let that person sit next to us i go out to get my refreshments. Snacks, yeah.

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And what does Sean PERSON text me? But do you remember? He's sitting two teeth down for me. Yes. And I was like, uh-uh. And he's like, oh yeah, sure enough.Yes. Good thing was, they were quiet during the movie. I appreciate it.

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Even though her, I think that was her boyfriend,

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had apparently sign this issues and constantly made noises through the movie.

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I don't think that was the ape.

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So let's get to the movie. The movie itself, let's use Wikipedia ORG's description. 300 years after the events of war for the plenty of the apes,ape civilizations have emerged from the oasis to which Caesar PERSON led his fellow apes, while humans have regressed into a feral primitive

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state. When the ape, king, Proimus Caesar PERSON, armed with weapons forged from human, lost human technologies, perverts Caesar PERSON's teachings to enslave other clans, the chimpanzee hunter, Noah PERSON, embarks on a harrowing journey alongside a human woman to determine the future for apes and humans alike. So that's it. It's kind of a hero's journey.

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I don't know that we've had really in the ape film thing.

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I'm let my mind sit.

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A hero's journey, just a hero's journey.

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I know.

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I'm trying to think if when a denying the call would have been,

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you know, I can just think Caesar PERSON, not really denying the call, but well, no, yeah, whenever he's cat, when Caesar PERSON is put in the ape enclosure and he then stops wanting to see well. Yeah, yeah. That could, that could be a little

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bit. It felt unique. It felt unique in this way to me that it didn't feel necessarily like, you know, we didn't have an immediate human ape separation because like they say this is in the future things have you know humans have evolved yeah

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Caesar PERSON's teachings have gotten there I will say and I'm gonna I'm gonna spoil with how I felt last night and it's changed a little so much so that I've already bought a ticket to

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go tomorrow uh-huh well you're gonna stay awake during this one yeah I admit to it so

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it was a seven o'clock showing yeah and the truth of it was there were two factors number Uh-huh. Well, you're going to stay awake during this one? Yeah, I admit to it. So the...

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It was a 7 o'clock showing, yeah.

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And the truth of it was, there were two factors. Number one, my poor sweet wife is sick. I have gigs this weekend. I can't sleep in the bed. I have been sleeping on the couch. I could not sleep.I was already tired. And I made the dumb decision to have a double red wine.

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And about halfway through, I got myself a lovely little power nap.

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You got your little bit of Phen of the Menace ORG power nap in? Oh, God.

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A Phantom Minus PERSON power nap? The difference is, Phantom Minish PERSON, you don't need the red wine. You just watch the movie. But I did kind of in the middle stretch, and it was after the journey begins that I just kind of and the next thing I knew, I was in a place. I was like, oh, well, yeah, yeah I missed that I'm going to see it againmy feelings last night were kind of

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unmoved by it uh

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me on reflection I'm enjoying it more

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well me too

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so this is not a spoiler because

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it's in this description that you just read but it's really a lot about how time and from a distance from a meaning can change that meaning depending on who is using. Exactly. And most importantly, I mean, the most direct correlation I can think of it right now isevangelicals who support Trump, you know, that he has no basis in Christianity ORG anywhere. He doesn't follow any of the teachings of Christ PERSON that there are churches out there saying that he's the next coming of Jesus PERSON. Right.

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And I think that's a pretty, it's not even saying on the nose. I mean, it's a truthful, I think it's the intent.

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I think you're looking at that the Christianity, how many thousands of years evolved evolved from it, that we look at it and people now use it to distort it to their own views. And I think that that's like prosperity churches and stuff like that, where that's not what Jesus PERSON, Jesus wasn't about making money. No, no, it wasn't.

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Not to get into a church stuff.

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Damn you, Sean. We're talking apes. But I think that's exactly right. And I think that maybe last night, my power nap aside,

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I think that's where initially my thought was,

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I don't know, but the more I thought about it on the way,

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it was literally drive home. I texted the girls when I left, and they were like, how was that? I wasn't. Me? By the time I got home, I said, well, hang on.

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I think that, I think because it really adhered to what

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the original did with so many

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social things that

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maybe this might be one of the stronger ones. And I said, so that's why I already took one of my Cinemark ORG tokens and bought myself a ticket to go see it again.

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So, and I don't want to get into spoiler stuff, but I remember last night we were talking about certain characters and surprise if they could do what they did. And then I started thinking about it, no, they've done that in the series as well, if you think about it,and especially in the second movie.

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Yeah, and now...

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And beneath, yeah.

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And I think that if we get into also comparing it to the originals,

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let's talk production design.

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I think that it is...

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Oh, well, yeah. I mean, there's a scene that feels like it came straight out of the first movie with all the humans being captured in the field.

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And they've even got rope nuts and everything, yeah. Yeah, you've seen that in the preview. I think some of the things where we look at a dystopian earth civilization, I don't want to say any of it, because some of those were the lovely little nuggets that I really enjoyed, but you're seeing vegetation and rust and whatever, take over things and how they...

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And then eventually you kind of get a glimpse of what they used to be.

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Yeah. I think some of that is really great. I think that that's actually where I started going back and going, okay, hang on. What expectation did you walk in with and what were you hoping this was going to be? Because as my brain went back to it, that was the first thing was the production design. I think the production design is outstanding.

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Oh, and the visual effects. That's the next thing you got to go to.

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The character, the way they look, oh, you're going to hear my dog barking because an airplane is flying over.

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I mean, just the visual effects on the characters themselves, the way the light goes through skin, the hair, the skin itself. I mean, it was the hands whenever. There was a scene where Noah PERSON covered the female character's hands, and his hands were massively bigger than hers. And I was wondering, did they do that? Did he cover her hands in real life with his hands and they made him bigger? Or did they have like an effect hand that then they went over?Because that just showed the size difference between the humans and the AIDS. Right.

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I thought that much like that, there were times, you know, not the size difference, but the environmental special effects. Because there's a moment when, pretty much at the head of the film, when we first meet the young human woman and there's kind of a fish smokehouse.

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And I thought some of the lighting within that, because you knew a lot of that, they may have hung some of the fish there that she's kind of.

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Oh, yeah. There's practical stuff. But the lighting, much of that had to be digitally done to make it work across all facets of it and this is either where she's cowering in a shadow or i think that's no one in that

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moment you know yeah no as the fish is moving and he's he's not real and and the lighting and the

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consistency that shot or he's yeah where he's in

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between the light and he's in between the fire and you and the camera and yeah he's backlit and

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everything i thought that that moment alone i thought damn the the i think that's wet a workshop that did

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all that and their work alone needs to be applauded just for that well if by the way if you hear any

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jingling that's my dog. Oh, that's okay.

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We heard a little bitty bark, not a big deal.

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You know, we don't want to keep this too long.

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This is directed by West Ball, who did the Maze Runner WORK_OF_ART film films.

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And I told Sean last night I'd heard Barry Jenkins, the award-winning director of Moonlight WORK_OF_ART,

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apparently went school with West Ball and had said really good things about how strong of a director he was and how the Mazur PERSON and films were not indicative of his strength. You could tell the studio

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had probably kept a thumb on him because he was relatively new. I think that's another

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thing that's kind of resonating with me is this. There is a director's presence in this one.

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You know, you can't say that in a lot of the original films because the studios were controlling,

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cutting budgets, etc.

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But this one,

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you could tell,

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this is a storyteller who wanted to tell a story.

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It's a little long. I think you probably could have turned about...

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Two and a half hours, yeah.

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I think you could turn to about 15 minutes and been okay, but then again, I think some of what works so well is how it can be an action film and then very quiet.Yeah.

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They do invoke a lot of Caesar with Noah PERSON the way he talks very quietly.

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Well, I even think the look of him now, I know, you know, obviously...

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They're not saying he's a descendant of Caesar PERSON or anything.

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But yeah, he's kind of got that patch where it's a little bare patch, which kind of matches the scar that Caesar PERSON used to have. And being a chimp, it's obvious it's easy to look and say he looked alike. But there were, I think there were intentional similarities. Yeah. Not so much that's distracting.

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On the bad guy side, I swear they made one of the chimps look like coba. Yeah, I thought the exact

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same thing. Yeah. I, um, now go ahead. No, if you had something because I again, I don't want to keep

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this too long. We're probably a little over 10 minutes now. I was just going to talk about the writer, Josh Friedman PERSON. I was looking at his filmography. As far as film writing, he wrote, Roar the Worlds for Steven Spielberg, for a black dahlia for Brian DePalma PERSON. He wrote this.He's writing, at least of right now, who knows, stuff always changes.

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The Fantastic Four WORK_OF_ART movie.

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He's writing Avatar 4 and an untitled Star Trek WORK_OF_ART film. But he did stories for chain reaction, Terminator Dark Fate, Avatar, the Way of Water, and Avatar 3 WORK_OF_ART.

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So take that in mind when you see this.

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He's written some okay stuff. He's written some stuff that you might find mediocre. He's written some good stuff. And then he did some TV stuff like Terminator WORK_OF_ART, the Sarah Connor Chronicles, Locke and Key WORK_OF_ART, The Finder WORK_OF_ART,

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Crossbones WORK_OF_ART, yeah. Snowpiercer and Foundation WORK_OF_ART. I don't know if you watch Foundation on Apple ORG TV, but that's excellent. I wanted to. I haven't gotten there. I think that it definitely feels likean intentional step away from the previous films by and large. And I even read something today with Westball PERSON saying that he intentionally wanted to do that because he didn't want to get into that fandom, that toxic fandom behavior where it's like, well, that's not where I saw this going. He's like, let's just avoid it. Let's use it as that's happening.

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Yeah, let's get a couple hundred years away. Yes. We're not going to be dealing with how humans really react with apes anymore because, you know, they've been devolved and all that kind of stuff. Yeah. Yeah.So I think it's more about the, it's more about the ape society and how they've evolved in the last couple hundred years.

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And the weird thing is that I think that it, going back to what you said before is how it's a direct correlation to our use of behavior, has humanity really evolved much?

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We have those foundations and we continue to use them against each other instead of to help each other.

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And what this one does that the original movies didn't do

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was it introduces different factions to the apes.

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In the first movie, there was just one city. So we only knew what one place. The second movie, it was that same city, but we got the mute. And the third one, we weren't really dealing with the apes anymorebecause we went back and passed. The fourth one, we were dealing with the apes coming together finally. And in the fifth one it was just one place again and this one actually covers two factions and how they are different and how they

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you know grew apart and stuff like that i'm curious to see if where they'll take this if it does well enough to to to warrant a sequel i would think that they said they want to do another trilogy

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yeah i wouldn't think disney was going to do. They may not do it with West Ball PERSON, but

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it does

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have a moment at the end where you go,

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okay, they're trying to tell us. It does lend itself

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to a sequel, yeah. Yeah.

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So there's... There's no post-credit

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scene. No, don't worry about that. Thank

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God PERSON. If I can be a sole entity that exercises Hollywood the post-credit scene, I will work my ass off. Come on. Half the time you know they're doing it to make people stay through the credits so scene, I will work my ass off.

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Come on. Half the time you know they're doing it to make people

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stay through the credits so that, you know, all these people that worked on it, you get to look at their name up there for a minute. They got paychecks. They get to keep working. I appreciate them and you know I apply them. I just, I'm so tired of that. That's a discussion for another time.I think overall that we're both saying a day afterwards, we like it. I don't know where it fits yet, but that I can also say that War for the Plan of the Aves WORK_OF_ART, after we saw that, we saw that when they showed all three of them.

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All three together, yeah. And I think when it finally showed, it was like almost 11 o'clock at night. And so we were both like, oh. Yeah.

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So I have a feeling that it's going to play like that.

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Where I really like that film now, when I saw it the first time, I was just like, oh, God, I'm just beaten down by watching three movies back to back to back.

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I don't know where this one fits yet.

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I'm glad to see that we get a good story that when the three of us sit down together, we'll be able to talk about.

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Yeah.

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Which to that point, we'll wrap this up by saying we actually are in production on rise at the Plenty of the Apes FAC.

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So we are, we're getting there. We will, we will release it. I had hoped that we could release it right around the time of this film, but we're doing this for that very reason. We wanted to come out and say, hey, we're still here. We're working on this. It's just been a little bit of chaos between Richard and his workouts for a comic book day DATE.

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I've had a lot of things happen on my watch.

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People being sick, travel, yeah.

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And Sean PERSON's got puppies that have issues.

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And so we've all been struggling just to get things to work out.

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With that said, we are working.

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It will happen.

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It will happen.

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I would venture guests within the next couple of months.

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Yeah.

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I think that's it, Sean PERSON.

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So you're giving it a thumbs up?

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Yeah, I enjoyed it.

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Okay, me too. Everyone get out and see it, Kingdom of Plenty of the Apes WORK_OF_ART. It opens in kind of a limited release, late tomorrow, full release on Friday. I'm sure most of you by now have your tickets. Go enjoy it. It's a good movie.I think that's it. Sean PERSON, you got anything else?

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That's it. All right, well, your sweet puppy over your shoulder is waiting for some love.

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We'll send Sean off to love the puppy. Everyone, have a great day.

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Bye. Bye, everybody.

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