2339: The Fastest Way to Get Strong in Powerlifting, What to Do if You Have Lost Motivation to Go to the Gym, Ways to Address Post Meal Bloat & More (Listener Live Coaching)

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You just found the most downloaded fitness health and entertainment podcast. You guessed it. This is Mind Pump ORG. Right? In today's episode, we answered live callers questions. People called in.We got to help them out on air. But that was after our intro portion. Today was 57 minutes long. This is where we talk about current events, family life studies. We have a lot of fun.It's good, entertaining time. Anyway, you can check the show notes for timestamps if you're just looking for something specific. Also, if you want to be on an episode like this one, email us live at mindpumpmedia.com. By the way, we're going to be in Vegas, June 15th,meeting with fans. We are selling tickets. It's a good time. Mindpumpmedia.com. By the way, we're going to be in Vegas, June 15th, meeting with fans. We are selling tickets. It's a good time. MindPumpLive.com ORG. This episode is brought to you by some sponsors. The first one is Joy Mode PRODUCT.This is a pre-workout or pre-sex supplement. It boosts blood flow. It gives you a better pump. You know where. Anyway, the stuff works. Go check it out.Go to usejoymode.com forward slash mind pump. Use the code mind pump at checkout. Get yourself 20% off. Also, this episode is brought to you by Butcher Box ORG. They deliver grass-fed meats, wild caught fish, heritage pork, and more to your door. So it's like really high-quality meat and protein at great prices.And right now, if you go through our link, butcherbox.com ORG forward slash mind pump, you can choose salmon, chicken breast, or steak tips for free in every order for an entire year, and you get $20 off your first order. One last thing, our program sales this month are as follows. Maps Strong and Maps Powerlift are both 50% off.You can find them at Maps Fitness Products.com ORG, but you have to use the code May 50 for the discount. All right, here comes the show. When you're lifting weights, the rest period is almost as important as the exercise itself. In fact, the rest periods are what makes strength training, strength training. Take those out.You're no longer building muscle. You're just building endurance and stamina. Take those rest periods. I know it's boring sometimes, but that's what makes it strength training. That's what trains the right energy systems so that you build muscle. Rest in between your sets. That's how you do it.

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Is this coming from one of our most recent callers? Yeah. Totally. It's, you know, it's funny is without the rest period, that's literally what would make it not strength training more.

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Take the rest period out. It is no longer strength training. It's just you're using weights, but you're not building strength and muscle. And that's literally what would make it not strength anymore. You take the rest period out. It's no longer strength training.

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It's just you're using weights, but you're not building strength and muscle. And that's the part that.

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And it's uncomfortable. You know, a lot of people that really get in the rhythm of the training. And it's like, you know, they just get antsy and they want to get back after it. But you're doing yourself a massive disservice, especially if you're going in just with the intention of this is strength training. I'm trying to build muscle. I'm trying to be focused on this.I got to start learning to incorporate other practices, maybe meditation and focus in between those sets to occupy you.

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You can, it's so easy to predict the person that needs this by like like when they when they break down like they

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what they like to do or how they've been training it's always your cardio your cardio

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your cardio bunnies your group X people people that love the the classes that you go to

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they just have the value the sweat just really have a hard time with the rest of you know

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and what's so great about getting a client like that is if you can get them to follow

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a like a maps power lift, like a powerlifting routine and make them rest for three minutes

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and focus on getting really strong in the core lifts, you radically change that person.

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You know, what's funny is I had somebody asked me, a family member asked me about the conversational skills that we have on the podcast. They listen to the show. They're like, you guys are really good at conversation and stuff. I'm like, you know, it's funny. I said, we learn that as personal trainers. Because when you're training clients like that, which is actually a large percentage of the clients that we would get. This was the typical person. Remember, strength training, when I started in the late 90s and then early 2000s, especially for women, was not popular whatsoever. Nobody's strength trained, except for guys that want to build big muscles or some athletes. It just wasn't popular. So we get a lot of peoplethat had problems with rest periods. They didn't want to rest. What can I do in between? I feel like I'm wasting my time. So you had to get really good at conversation. You had to get really good at entertaining them in between sets to make them kind of more comfortable. But yeah, one of the big misconceptions around rest periods is the reason why a strength training routine, so this is the myth, the reason why a strength training routine has a rest period is because you need a break. You have to take that break. Otherwise you can't keep going. So rest until you feellike you can go again. That's not why the rest period exists. The rest period exists because there is a particular energy pathway or system in the body that you're training that leads to your signaling more muscle, more strength, growth, right? Faster metabolism, the hormone positive things that we talk about with strain training. You have to train that energy system. That energy system burns hot, but it burns out very quickly.So sprinting would be the strength training version of cardio. If you sprint versus long distance run and you do no strength training, the sprinter will build significantly more muscle in their legs than the long distance runner. In fact, the long distance runner is typically at risk of losing some muscle because the body's trying to become more efficient at what you're doing. The sprinter is literally sprinting at full speed and then waiting and resting. If you ever watch a track, you know,training with sprinters, they rest for a long period of time between sprints because the coach wants them fully rested to exert maximum power. So when you train that energy system, the way the body adapts to that is it makes bigger muscles because bigger muscles burn fast, hot, and contract with a lot of power. So that's what you have to train. If you don't take those rest periods, the body will start to adapt in the stamina and enduranceway, which is smaller energy efficient muscle. It's starting to train for energy efficiency, which is fine if that's what you want. But if you're working out because you want the faster metabolism, you want the insulin sensitizing effects, you want to shape and sculpt the body. Well, that's building muscle. And rest periods are so important to that.Again, if you take that out, it's no longer strength training.

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Something completely different. This same avatar person, I've found the majority have a really hard time with increasing load within these sets as well. And so this is something that, too, it's a different shift of mentality completely in terms of approaching the exercise. I'm trying to increase intensity. I'm trying to increase the max force capacity, like how much I could summon versus just trying to get the reps in,get the reps done. It's not about getting done with the workout. This isn't like a task of, you know, I have to get through all this stuff and like what I have on my list.

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This is like, what am I capable of? Like how much, how much,

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uh, weight can I move? You know, it's a totally different mentality. It's such a good point to because it, you know, it's been a long time, obviously since I've trained people in person. Uh, one of the last clients I had, though, this was, this is where the transition. We were trying to get to this point. And I can remember, uh, one of the things that she was challenged with is, you know, she'd get done with a set after I've been communicating this. And she'd be like, okay, I'm ready to go.And I go, oh, well, we obviously didn't exert enough energy lifting enough weight there. No, no, no, that was heavy. Like, not heavy enough. If it's, if it's that point where you're ready to go again in 30 seconds for like that, we're not learning to summon all that power and energy to lift as much weight as possible. And you're still lifting go again in 30 seconds for like that. We're not learning to summon all that power and energy to lift as much weight as possibleand you're still lifting with that same mentality of like circuit and like, you know, only pushing the body so hard and then I'm ready to do it again.It really is you have to get them to not only apply to by the, like adhere to the rest periods, but then also learn to shift the mentality of going in to lift the weight. And that is part of this process that's difficult.

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Yeah. Now, there is some value to some shorter rest periods, to waste buildup, getting the pump. There's definitely value to that, but that also still includes rest periods. So it's not like there's no rest periods. There's still rest periods, but now you're working a little bit more strength endurance. And the pump does contribute to some muscle growth as well. But for the average person, for most people listening, okay, because that's more advanced, right? For the average person listening, you should rest until you feel completely prepared to lift with your maximum strength again. That's how you should feel.It should not feel like, okay, I caught my breath. I can go again. I think I can go again. No, no, no. You should feel like, am I going to be able to be as strong as I won the last set? No, okay, I'll rest a little longer. That's what you should feel like.

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Full recharge. By the way, it's a different feeling you're measuring. Totally. Right? Because it's like, I know when I goand I'm like, let's say I'm squatting, right? And I'm lifting 300 plus pounds. When I'm, after I've been resting for one minute,

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it's not my breath that's telling me I'm ready to go. It's like my legs. My legs still feel like they're recovering from the lift they just did before. And it's like it's that once you hit that about that three minute TIME mark, it's like, okay, they feel fully recovered again. Now let me go after it again. You're not, it's not your heart rate and your breathing, which is what the class people or the circuit training type of person. That's what they're measuring. They're like, oh. That's what they're associated with a good workout.

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That's what I mean.

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And they go, oh, my heart rates come down.

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I'm not breathing heavy.

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I can go again.

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It's like, no, I'm wanting you to feel the legs.

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Like, how do your legs feel?

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Oh, their legs are fine. Oh, okay, well, we didn't. We're not hitting close to your.

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We're not pressing it. Just to give an example, if you had two people doing a strength training routine, let's say, in 45 minutes. And one person just did, let's say, four sets. And the other person did 15 sets, but the way they were able to accomplish 15 setswas they had no rest. The one who did the four sets with rest is going to build more muscle and more strength. Even though they didn't do nearly as many sets, they're the one that are going to build muscle and strength. The other person is going to build stamina and endurance,which again is fine. But if you're after the following, which is it's not the work I'm doing in my workout that I'm looking for the value in, it's the adaptations. That's the value that I want because the adaptations are with you all the time. You're working out three days a week for an hour.That's three hours out of the week that you might get some value from movement. Three hours. That's it. Out of your whole week. How many hours are there in a week? Way more than that, right?Strength training, the value isn't really in the activity itself. There's some value, but not a ton. The values in the adaptations, the muscle building process, the recovery, the strength that you build, which is with you all day long. This is why someone who does strength training can burn a fourth or even a tenth of the calories that someone who does a ton of cardio does in theirworkout yet have a metabolism that burns so many more calories that it not only makes up the difference it goes above and beyond and it makes being lean so much easier it requires less work

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that's the value of this you know this this tip too reminds me of the like the real value of like a really like a really good trainer so they're like they're worth their weight in gold right here. Like twice the investment you spend on them. When they train you accordingly and they use those two to three minute TIME rest periods to like educate you.

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Yeah.

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Because then you think about like that you not only do you get this incredible program, programmed by a professional and expert that's teaching you great

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biomechanics and technique and putting you through the best routine possible for your body. Then in addition to that, they have, you know, this entire hour, almost half TIME that is in rest periods. And if in those rest periods, you're being educated on why we're doing this, what programming is, what the difference between sets and reps, talking to you about nutrition,like, boy, that's huge, man. You're getting, you're getting this, this deep education about your body and, in your health, in addition to this incredible workout,

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it's hard to put a price tag on that if you have, if you caught yourself a trainer like that.

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I'll tell you what my tricks were for the rest periods for clients that had a tough, because you get those clients, they have a tough time, sitting for three minutes and you can tell. They're like, I'm paying for this time. This for three minutes and you can tell. They're like,

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I'm paying for this time. This is wasting my time type of deal. One was good conversation, obviously. Two was what you're saying. Be able to educate them during that process.So they felt like they got something out of it. And they did. And the third one would be just a little mild fashion release that I learned from the massage therapist that I work with. So in between sets,I could work on certain muscle groups and people enjoy that. And it would give them value. And this is a tip for trainers

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because you're going to run into clients who are going to push back. You get that cardio fanatic and you tell them to rest in between sets and they literally feel like, okay, they're paying you for nothing.I've actually heard people say this.

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Why am I paying you? I'm just sitting here. That's right, yeah.

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You know? So those things right there, I think, could help out. Anyway, speaking to workout, so earlier, I don't know you guys heard Andrew PERSON say that he went to go play baseball and he tried the joy mode as a

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pre-workout. Do you already said? No. Oh, yeah. He said he was in the zone. Oh, yeah, yeah.

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You swear by that. It is a great. So, Joy mode is for sexual performance. And the reason why it's made that way. The reason why it's, it increases blood flow. And it's very effective at increasing blood flow. Boost nitric oxide. So obviously more blood flow means...

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There's going to be like some bat jokes in there.

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Yeah.

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Or men and tights.

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I don't know.

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What is it about men and tights, Andrew PERSON?

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That makes you want to take joy most.

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That's the whole it was.

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But you want more blood flow when you work out too.

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Like that's what gives you a better pump.

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That's what gives you a better performance,

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better nutrient delivery.

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And it's not a stimulant.

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So when you take it,

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it's not like caffeine. In fact, I take it with caffeine sometimes. Great.

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Yeah,

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no,

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it's a different energy. It's a great thing. You got us to take it before before podcast. It's weird. Yeah. Like how much it energizes you.It's a good energy. It is.

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It feels really good. Yeah. But I do, do i do worry like if i get too much energy what could happen

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hey speaking of energy uh so i saw this stat and maybe doug can factor it you think it's true

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80% of one dollar bills have traces of cocaine on it i've heard that bro PERSON look that up dog

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i thought it was the tony monta no it's it's one dollar heard that, bro. Look that up, Doug PERSON.

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I thought it was the $1.

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No, it's $1 bills.

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That's what this, well, that was what the... Who does cocaine with a $1 bill?

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Isn't that like a dirty ass cocaine? Isn't it like a big like no-no? I don't know. I don't know. So I'm curious if there's any truth to that, Doug PERSON.

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Yeah.

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What do you got? What do you got for us?

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Yeah, it seems to be real, actually.

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Oh, what?

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Wait, wait.

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Oh, it's a study to another study by the journal. Look at that, Sal PERSON.

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Noting a still substantial contamination of 80% of U.S. GPE currency.

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So what's the other person was made up of feces then, yeah?

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Why feces?

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Guaranteed.

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Yeah, the strippers are dirty.

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I think that's actually what...

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So the clip that I saw was that every night the stripper comes home and she actually

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washes her dollar bills.

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Like she puts it all in her sink, fills it up with dawn and, and lets it sit and then

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and then drys it every day.

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Yeah.

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And then I saw that, I saw that stat.

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I was like, oh, that's really interesting.

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If you wash your money, I mean, you run a little too far.

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I don't think so.

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I like that.

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Clean stripper.

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According to this, paper money can be, carry more germs than a household toilet.

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Wow.

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I've also heard that about a doorknob.

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I heard a doornav has more germs on it than a toilet seat.

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You know what?

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Listen to me, you guys, you don't fall for the propaganda, bro.

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They want to take away all your paper currency.

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They want you digital sick and control everything. for the propaganda, bro. They want to take away all your paper currency. They want you digital. They can control everything. That's what's happening. Wow.

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Yeah. You think that's really deterring people? I think a bunch of people are sticking to their dollar bills now.

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You'll see some nasty shit on there.

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I don't think that's deterring anybody. Everyone's like, what? There's some cocaine traces of my dollar bills. I don't think it's an effective way to get enough coke, though.

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Yeah. I don't think so either. How many dollar bills do you need? That's more expensive than buying it. Yeah, every dollar bills do you need to get? Why is so much cocaine everywhere?I don't understand. I don't realize cocaine is so, like it's all over the place.

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Yeah, well, I guess that's the tool of choice.

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You just roll it up and, I mean, that's what I see in the movies, but I mean, I know, right?

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Why is there so much?

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That's an insane amount. 80%. I don't think you can find 80% of any of the chemical on money. That's why I thought it was an interesting stat. I thought that was so fascinating.

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And it's a real statistic.

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It's backed by studies, bro.

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I knew you were going to try and fact check me there, but it's backed up.

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I got another one for you guys.

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You got more studies?

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Well, it's a stat, right?

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So more stats. Is this one going to tell me dinosaurs aren't real? No, no, no.

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No, no. I thought that one. So I think it's called callbacks. There's like a 5% of, so Capital One ORG is the, I think, the number one credit card as far as how many people have Capital One credit cards. Capital One ORG, I think it discovers up there. I forget what some of the other ones were.And they're at a 5.4, I think, percent, somewhere like that, five point something, callback, which is the highest since the 08 crash, which is interesting, right? So it's...

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So 5% of users... A callback is them basically canceling their card because you're not making payments.

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So you're basically defaulting on your debt...

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And that's a high number.

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It's the highest since 08. Oh.

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So we haven't seen this high of numbers since 08. And this is coming from one of... It's a report coming from one of the highest or the most popular card cards out there. So everything is so expensive. It's crazy. It's got a pop.

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Like food is expensive.

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No, it absolutely has to.

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So I think what, I think what why this has got everybody fooled for so long is that we'd never

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seen that much money infused into the market.

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We had the big COVID relief stuff that's going on.

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So the Stimmy LAW checks like crazy. And then all the, what was it called when you, when you could apply? What was the thing that we could have applied for for the. Yeah, the PPP.

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The PPP loans or PVA whatever loans. Yeah.

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You have all of those. Like everything is kind. And then everybody obviously running up the debt. I just think that we just haven't seen the fallout yet. It's still to come. And it just takes a lot longer when you,when you have record amounts of money that you've infused in the economy. And these are like one of the front end signs of that is when you start seeing people default on credit cards.

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What was the number in 08? You said it was the highest in 08.

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So this is, it got higher.

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I think it got all the way up to like eight to 12. Maybe Doug can check that for me. This was like, so if you looked at it, I saw a graph, right? So you could see the two peaks. So yeah. So like let's say here's the, the median line. Um, and then here and then this is the peak of 08. We're on the upward trend right now. So we're, we're trending this way. We've already passed the medium it's ever been. And so it's at the lower

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end of 08, but the highest it's ever been since 08. Credit's interesting. So it's basically

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showing that it's trending in that direction. Credit's interesting because for markets to

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work well, for, you know, investment and innovation, it's very important. So not having credit is not a good idea in markets. However, there's also a bad side to it where people don't no longer live by, I can afford this because I have this money, but rather,

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I can afford this because I can make the payments. That's right.

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And so then they end up building.

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I mean, I was guilty of this as a kid.

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I mean, whenever I looked at both car payments and a house payment, that's how I always viewed it.

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You just looked at the payment.

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Yeah.

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And just carried the debt.

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Which, by the way, it's like every, you know, realtor slash car dealer's dream is to hear someone say that because they can, they can finagle the, you know, the loan, you know, how long

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the loan is and all those things like that to draw out.

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Yeah, to get it to the payment that you, that you want. But it's like it's not the thing that you should be negotiated.

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But we've been conditioned that way. We've been conditioned that way to think that that's. Everything's about payments. What are your payments? What are your payments?

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Not what the total debt is. And that puts the people on a bad, a really, really bad situation.

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I know the average household has got like crazy debt. We don't count home.

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Records. Records. It's record high. Everything, everything is record high right now. Car payments too. The fact that the average car payments are over $700 is crazy. That's on the entire unit. I can't believe that. That's crazy.

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That's crazy. Is that because some are so high? Because that sounds insane to me. A $700

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car payment, that's crazy. It's really not when you look at all these, the average cars right now. It's like, you know, it was that long ago when you could buy a $20,000 car. Like your base model car now is $30,000, $40,000.That was like middle to high just 20 years ago.

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Yes, you're right.

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Although, although it's because none of them are like they were back. Like I bought, like some of my first cars were so cheap, but they didn't have air conditioning, no power windows, no power steering.I don't think you could buy a car like that, right? You can't find a car like that anymore. No, no, no, no. Used.

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No, it was brand new. I bought a brand new, brand new pickup.

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Yeah, you could do roll up windows.

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Oh, it was like 13 grand out the door.

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Yeah. It was a pickup four cylinder Toyota ORG. It had no power steering. So like for people that know, kids don't understand, like, if you're at a full stop and you got a turn. Oh, yeah, you'd get a nice little workout.My buddy used to drive, so my best friend, he drove a 54 Chevy ORG pickup truck with no power steering.

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And he had one of those little GT PRODUCT wheels.

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And it was small, yeah, yeah.

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I did the same thing.

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I used to sit.

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So he used to pick me up for school. And then we used to back into our parking spot.

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And I used to have to, so he would crank and I would help him.

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We both.

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We'd be pulled on this side.

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I'd be pulled on this side and to crank the wheel to get it back to in.

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What do you got for me, does?

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So cheap.

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Well, there's some $20,000 cars there.

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Yeah.

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So sub $20,000 MONEY cars are going to go the way of the Dodo Sue.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Look at that.

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So 18,160 CARDINAL, it's the cheapest.

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Get out of here with a carola. You can still get a coroll. I mean, these are like the. The basic base level. Yeah. So 18,160, it's the cheapest. Get out of here with a Corolla PRODUCT. You can still get a Corolla PRODUCT. I mean, these are like the...

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They're basic base level.

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Yeah, of course.

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Of course.

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But that's what I'm trying to say.

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Made out of plastic. Now you have computers in every single car. You know what I mean? I had analog radio.

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That's pretty good.

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You can get a Corolla PRODUCT.

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You can get a Corolla still for 23. That's not bad. See, now I bought my Corolla S PRODUCT, which was the highest level of the corolla for about 24. So it's almost the same price now as their lowest model. That was back when I bought mine in. Yeah. I want to get an old car with my kids just to trip them out.

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Hey, open the windler and manual stick shift because, dude, that's the best insurance policy.

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It is.

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Cops will say it's the best. Nobody can drive those anymore.

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It's the number one deterrent from car theft.

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I wonder, who was it that told me this?

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I think my wife told me this.

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It's a turn-on when a man can drive stick.

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Because I guess a lot of men can't drive stick.

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Is it turn on?

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Yeah, she's like most women.

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She told me, she said women think it's hot when a guy could drive.

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Stick shift.

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I think it's a lot of that.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I learned on that. Did you guys learn on it? That's how I got my driver's it. Yeah, yeah. I learned on that.

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Did you guys learn on it?

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That's how I got my driver's license.

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Yeah, yeah, me too.

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I drove a Dodge Colt, a 19,

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I don't know what year it was,

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80-something Dodge Colt PRODUCT.

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It actually had stick shift,

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and then there was another stick

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that could go power or economy.

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So the thing, I mean, I put it in power.

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Let me tell you.

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Mine was a shitty Honda ORG.

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It was like 75 horsepower.

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Yeah, manual.

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But what I loved was my dad took me to this lumber yard.

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And in the back, it was like all these huge puddles. And it was a big, like, parking lot. And so the whole thing was for me to go as fast as possible and then hit and hydroplane and then work my way out of it. And it was like so much fun. And it was crazy, you know, and like, but it, honestly, to this day,it saved me a few times because I was super calm. One time when I hit black ice, what I totally could have lost control and, like, killed everybody in myself in the car.

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And quite a few times.

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Yeah, it's just like, it's a handling thing.

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It's knowing how to be able to stay calm and not over correct.

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Yeah.

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So I'm totally doing that with my kids.

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What's the medium price, Doug PERSON?

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Can me give me the medium price for a car right now? Like, you know you gave us the cheaper.

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Let me ask you guys this. How do you do, maybe you know this, Adam PERSON? How do you do a e-break turn now that you can't? There's no more e-breaks. Oh, yeah.

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No, it's all a button. Or like a step on it. Because remember, I used to do you guys, you break turn. Sure. You can't do that anymore. You can't.No, no, you can't do that anymore.

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Well, that's stupid.

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Yeah, you can't do that. And then cars that they make now. Well, you only really needed that with the manual, right? Because if you're on a hill, like, I would have to pull e-break sometimes in San Francisco GPE.

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Oh, really?

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Yeah. The average car sold now. So look at that. The average car sold for $47,000 a salary.

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That used to be a luxury car, bro. That's crazy.

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Yeah. Yeah, 47,000? That was a top end for sure. It was like a really nice Mercedes back in the day. Oh, yeah. Yeah, no, that's, so you add that and then you figure the interest rates now are on car loansare minimum 5 to 8%.

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So that's how you get the car payment that high. I think I've only ever had a car payment once in my entire life. And I only had it for like six months and I paid it off. I've never had a car payment. Even when you were younger, huh?

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Never.

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Wow.

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Never.

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So two things, my saving grace.

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One is... You and I are in different camps on that.

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Totally.

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I know.

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Well, don't act like you had a plan.

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I think you just wanted nice stuff.

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You weren't sitting there like...

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No, no.

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I mean, even now I'll finance things, right? Yeah, but now you're different. Now you understand wanted nice stuff. You weren't sitting there like, no, no, I mean, even now,

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even now I'll finance things, right?

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Yeah, but now you're different.

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Now you understand money and finance.

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I actually,

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so I, yeah, I like, so I, and it, sometimes it doesn't make logical sense, right?Because I know that I'll, I'll finance something and I'm, I'm making less, let's say, in my, you know,my savings account or high interest on making less than the loan or whatever.

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But when you were a kid, you weren't doing these numbers.

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No, but what, what, what I like, just for me, for budget reasons, is I pretend like it doesn't because it's a bill, it's like I don't own that money. I don't have that money. And so I like to do that. And then I like to have that capital to be able to go do other things with that.

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If you're smart and you understand finance, then there's a way to work it to where you really come out on top. But most people don't know that.

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Most people don't look at their interest right here and realize, wow, instead of paying

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off that $50,000 car, I'm paying this much interest and I can make more of that if I invested

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over here. Yeah. So it'd be dumb to pay it off. Let me take that money and put it over here. Most people don't do that. Now, when I was a kid, I don't understand that either. What I did was I was brought up by poor immigrants and the debt was like a bad word when I was a kid. Like you never owe any money. That was all the money advice I got as a kid.

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Yeah. So and then the other part is I'm so disorganized. I was afraid I could miss a bill. So I'm like,

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what if I forget to pay? So I just don't want to bill. Oh, I mean, that's smart. I've gone through a whole journey of levels of that. So it's just like everything paid off. That was like the mantra, you know, same thing from the beginning. And then it was credit card to build your credit score and then you pay it off every month.

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Yeah. Whatever you paid, I had to pay off like every single month. And then later on, I'm like, well,okay, so I could also invest this here

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and then like keep that going.

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I still pay everything else.

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I'm still not a debt guy.

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Now do you use so,

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because this,

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like I don't, I don't use my debit card at all, all my my amics for everything. Get the points. And at the end of the month, I get points. Yeah, yeah.Because credit cards can give you some great, like, I get free points.

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And not only that, the, you know, the main reason that made me do that more than the points because that's like a bonus to it was actually fraud reasons. Yes. So if you, if you get your, your debit card, and if you buy a lot of things online like I do

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and you use your debit card, they get that. You're fucked and they take the money up. Oh,

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the bank. Oh, bro. That's a headache. And then your accounts froze. Credit card just like you don't

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know. Credit card, they go, they go battle it for you. So they don't mess. They'll do right away.

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They flag it. They flag it as flaw, the fraud. They go handle all of it. You don't, nothing stops for you.

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You know, that was their main reason why I switched to that.

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You know, one of the top places that steals your, your credit card or debit card info?

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Hmm.

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The gas pump.

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Yeah, I've heard that.

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The gas pump.

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Really?

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You know what they do? They put, I don't know what they call skimmers.

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It's like a chip that they put in there.

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They'll cover it with this perfect replica of what it looks like to put your credit card. And there's a chip in there that just gets the number. And it still works. It'll still pay the gas and everything, but it collects all the data. Then due to whoever drives by.

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He ever came out as a genius.

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That is a good.

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It collects their skimmer and has on the other.

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You know, you always think, okay,

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the guy who came over that would have been rich doing something else.

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I always think,

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it's always interesting to me,

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the smartest of criminals would also have been the smartest that they played by the rules.

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I know. It's like, it's so crazy to me, like, the smartest of criminals would also have been the smartest that they played by the rules. I know.

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It's like, it's so crazy to me, like, why you chose that direction?

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Because to apply yourself enough to figure that out and to create that, it's like, there's brilliance there.

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I wonder if they have that same deficiency, like, adrenaline or like, same thing with like these

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extreme rock climbers.

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You're probably right.

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You know what I mean?

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Like, they need the rush of the fact that like this is illegal. Or they never had a really good mentor, you know?

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Or they grew up. I had a lot of people like that work for me in the past.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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I've run a lot of clubs with people who work for me who definitely, you know,

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did things on that other side. But then through working with them mentorship, they became incredible performers and salespeople. I know them all now. They're all fathers and very successful, because they had some mentorship there.So I think that makes the big difference. Because you're right, the skills that make you very successful at creating shit like skimmers

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and stuff like that,

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you can apply that to the market. The amount of ingenuity you see in prisons, you know, alone, it's pretty insane. Yes. To see how they, like, come up with you see in prisons, you know, alone, it's, it's pretty insane. To see how they, like, come up with ways to get stuff from the outside, like how they could make, like, how they make one. You ever see how they make alcohol?

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Yeah.

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Have you seen how they make alcohol?

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Oh, yeah, alcohol.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Or how they talk to each other through the toilets.

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Have you seen that?

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They make their own languages up.

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They do all kinds of crazy stuff.

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You got a bunch of dudes with nothing better to do.

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No, I had some serious ingenuity.

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I mean, it just shows you that, again, directed, right mentorship, whatever, applied the right direction.

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Yep.

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Because there's brilliance there for you to be able to deal.

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Hey, I got to tell you guys something.

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This is going to piss everybody off, but I don't care.

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So, so.

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Yes.

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I saw this this morning.

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And, you know, I get really upset when I see this because, by the way, I predicted this. I predicted that there would be an ebnesia when we look back at the complete clown show.

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In utter governmental, traumatizing, just corrupt garbage that COVID, that whole narrative was all complete lies in garbage, 100%.

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And the amnesia is this.

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There's still people watching right now who are like, no, no.

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Yes, it was.

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Could have been so much worse.

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No, it was terrible.

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Listen, AstraZeneca ORG's COVID vaccine

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has just gotten withdrawn globally. Do you hear about this?

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I just hear about that.

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Because of thrombosis.

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So, okay, if you said blood clotting or thrombosis at all during that whole period, you would have got de-platformed. Your business would have been lost. In some cases.

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There's so many people I want to slap.

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Persecuted.

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Oh, so hard.

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Yeah.

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So hard.

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I remember when people lost their jobs for not agreeing to inject themselves with an experimental.

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It was an experiment at the time, vaccine, which, by the way, if you said that, that would

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have got kicked off. I remember a lot of the stuff that happened back there.

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Biggest hustle of all time, dude.

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It's crazy.

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It's crazy. And now they're pulling them off the market for the exact same things that the quote-unquote

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conspiracy theorists said were true.

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Yeah.

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Blows me away. And there's still people like, oh, we never forced anyone. That didn't happen. We still saved a lot of lives.

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Dude, in the amount of verbal diarrhea, like, I saw a few of the reps. I don't know if it's from Pfizer or like Moderna ORG, but they were like grilling them about like the efficacy of the vaccine. And it was just like trying to, trying to pull the, yes or no questions. And then they're, well, you know, some data was unclear about this.

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Like, yes or no.

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Like did it, did it prevent, you know, uh, transmission?

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Did it, you know, and like, they won't just be like, no, we, no. We thought it would, but no, you know, and it's just like, it's very clear.

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No, actually the data is really clear now. There's a, there's a group of people that got a net positive and they were like sick old people. Everybody else, almost everybody else did not get a net positive from And they were like sick, old people. Everybody else, almost everybody else, did not get a net positive from these. But we also, on top of it, shut down and destroyed small businesses, caused people to lose their jobs,traumatized and permanently caused cognitive issues with children because you took a bunch of kids out of school or forced them to wear masks. The part of the brain that reads faces had to develop differently. They're showing this strong evidence now.

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That's always been the case. You cause more suicides. You caused more drug overdoses. You destroyed the economy. You caused inflation. It was a complete failure.

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And data is now showing that we probably killed more people because of our policies.

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Not just saved people. We actually killed more people as a result. Did you see the interview that Patrick by David did with Chris Como PERSON? He was talking.

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He was talking about. He's on ivermectin ORG.

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Yeah, he's talking about it. Yeah, he's talking about it. He was like, one of the guys like,

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yeah,

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exactly. What he said, though,

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is that like it was the information that they were giving them.

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Like that's like,

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so you had all the... Here's the predictions that I made. Amnesia. That didn't happen. And the next is going to pass the buck, blame it on someone else.

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And then they're going to pick fall guys because people are like,

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oh, this is crazy.

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No.

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And they're going to start, you know,

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they're going to pick sacrificial lambs.

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It's all going to be on Dizzy PERSON now. I was just going to bring him up. Speaking of fall guys,

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we're just dead he at. I don't know. But did you see there were a bunch of, there were a bunch of cars outside Drake PERSON's house. Did you see that? Look that up. Speaking of fall, guys, we're just dead he at? I don't know. But did you see there were a bunch of cars outside Drake's house?

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Did you see that? Look that up, Doug PERSON. Oh, well, you know what's, you don't know what's going on right now. No, I don't. You just brush them up you don't even know about, do you?

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Yeah, that's a whole other thing, right?

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Yeah, there's a whole other thing, right? Yeah, there's beef going on between Drake and Kendrick PERSON right now.

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Why is there, like, the craziest? Okay, you remember Tupac Biggie PERSON, like, battles back and forth?

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Kendrick and Drake PERSON are like on another level right now.

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But why are they caught, why are there a bunch of cops cars up? But is it really that intense? There was, yeah, like, battles back and forth? Kendrick and Drake PERSON are like on another level right now. But why are they caught?

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Why are they a bunch of cop partners?

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Because there was, yeah, well, there ended up someone getting, like shooting guns in front of Drake PERSON's house.

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So last week, this all happened last week. You guys are.

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A bunch of rich ass entertainers shooting each other.

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They don't even seem that gangster.

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It's just kind of funny to me.

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Well, that's why, I mean, that's the critique right now is like, get out of here.

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You guys, you guys are both ridiculous with this like, it's not even that. It's not even that. It started. Well, that's why, I mean, that's the critique right now. It's like, get out of here. You guys. You guys are both ridiculous with this, like, it's not even that.

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It's not even that.

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It started off with just shit talking in their songs. And then it got like, but it was, you know, it's like the most viral sensation that's happening last week, right? Like, it's, it caused more like views to their songs. Because they were, they were dropping these like by the hour. So just like a couple days ago, like three.

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The disc tracks? Yeah. And they're really good. They're actually really good. Adam PERSON, come on. I'm surprised you didn't say this because you're the first person I always go here.

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Well, I don't bring, I don't bring this time.

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No, no, not that.

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What do you think?

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Do you think this is real or do you think they talk to each other and find it out to sell?

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I was talking to my brother-in-law about that. So the only reason why I think it's real is because this goes back a long time ago. Like, so they've said stuff about each other like lightly in songs in the past. And so there, it was already known that they didn't like each other. Now, it escalated like crazy right now. And they're, and Kendrick PERSON's saying things like saying some things that are like saying thatDrake PERSON's a pedophile.

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Oh, yeah.

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So yeah. So, yeah. So they're talking about each other's girls, their family, their kids. So it's got, that's why it's escalated to this is because it's gotten really, really personal. That's the only reason why I don't think it's staged. Normally, I would think it's staged.But these guys are, like, taking shots at, like, family and pedophilia. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, if you decide a stage, it's like, you probably set some rules and boundaries. Like, hey, leave my wife and kids out of this.

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Yeah. But they're going like. Your face looks dumb. and leave like, yeah, but they're going like... Your face looks dumb.

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Start there. Yeah, so they're going pretty hard right now.

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And so what happened, it was outside Drake PERSON's house.

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There was a shooting outside.

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A security guard got hit. Did someone get hit?

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Yeah. Now, Drake PERSON, wasn't he... Who was that actress from Stranger Things WORK_OF_ART, that girl? 11?

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Yeah, but what's her name name? I don't know. You just know the character name? I forgot. Maybe I was her 11. Yeah, that girl, that... 11? Yeah, but what's her name, name? I don't know. You just know the character name? I forgot. Maybe look her up to that guy from 11. Yeah, that was her name of the show.You know what I'm talking about? Okay.

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When she was 15, she was interviewed, and she said that Drake PERSON was her friend and that he gives her all this dating advice, talks about boys. So people are pulling that up because of the... Because of the pedophilia talk.

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Yeah, yeah. So that's, and that's kind of like where this all stems from is that he's got all these young girl. I mean, he's like the, all the girls love him, right? And he gets, he has a young audience. And so Kendrick PERSON's been coming.

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And it doesn't help with like all the P. Diddy PERSON stuff that's coming out.

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And so that's how this got escalated really fast was that Kendrick PERSON made a, made that shot.

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And then he came back at Kendrick PERSON. Wow. Some of the best songs I've heard in a long time.

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So you guys know that Jake Cole is like my favorite rapper at this era.

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And he actually, this is what he did.

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He came out and he dissed Kendrick PERSON, and then Kendrick PERSON came back really hard. And then Jay Cole PERSON came back and actually like, like apologize and pulled it off his record. And he basically said, I don't want to be an example of the young men today, like of shit like this.

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Oh, that's good.

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That's right. That's why I mean, he's got class like that, dude. That's why I'm such a fan of all that shit.

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Of course, a bunch of kids that want to see the beef and all that stuff happen on, but it's like, man, that's what's wrong with a lot of these rappers.

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And that's one of the things I like Jay Cole PERSON about is the stuff that he wraps about is about being, he's about growth.

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He's about being a better person.

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And he's lyrically talented. And so he started to engage and then he removed himself and said you know

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good yeah i don't know who he is but i like that yeah yeah i thought so too and so he was originally

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in all this too all right you want some more crazy stuff did you hear that's did you see what robert

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f kennedy posted no recently you just told me this. I mean, it's kind of like, duh.

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Like, I mean, who here thinks that polls are accurate?

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So Robert Kennedy PERSON did a post on X, which I'm sure they won't show anywhere else.

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He says, hey, Trump, I'm grateful for you calling attention to the rig polling methodologies that the biased DNC ORG influenced media have used against you.

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He goes, I basically agreeing like they are.

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The polls are, they're lies.

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They're full of shit.

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So he did his own poll with Zogby or Zogby, which is the largest and most accurate poll of this election cycle.

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So he paid a third party.

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Do a poll.

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Do a real poll. Let's see what the real number show. Trump PERSON versus Biden, Trump beats him big time. Robert Kennedy also beats Biden PERSON. In a three-way matchup, Trump wins, but RFK ORG is right behind him.

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Now, here's why this is crazy.

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The polls show RFK ORG in single-digit numbers. So he did this other poll and says, no, he's way above what they're showing.

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So that's so slimy, if that's true. It's so slimy. I mean, he's way above what they're showing. So, yeah, that's, that's so slimy if that's true.

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It's so slimy.

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I mean, it's believable because I think Kennedy PERSON pulls to both sides better than any of them do. Yeah. He's the most, he's the most centric one of all three. Also, and I don't know, maybe I'm biased, but does anybody really support Biden PERSON? I mean, does really anybody?

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Have you talked to anybody like ever who's like, yeah, I totally love him.

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No, he doesn't look like. The thing that everybody, anybody who supports him what they say is he's better than Trump PERSON.Yeah,

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but nobody can say. You know someone who said that? Yeah,

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yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

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Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. No, I still have the same, I have the same amnesia friends you're talking about that still think that what we do.They don't think he's like, they still think that the way we handled COVID EVENT, we did it the best that we could have. Wow. They still think that what we did. They don't think he's like, they don't think he's mentally. They still think that the way we handled COVID, we did it the best that we could have. Wow. They still think that Biden is a better choice than Trump PERSON.Wow. Well, that second part, okay, fine, because politics or whatever. But the first part, they think we handled it right?It's not that they think we had a right.

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They think with the information that we had.

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Oh,

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so they're apologetic.

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Yeah,

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it's like that.

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It's like,

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it's like, you know, we did it the best way. We did it the best way They're apologetic. Yeah, it's like that. It's like, it's like, you know, with the information that we had, we did it the best way it was coming, we did it the best way that we could have. And who knows how many lives we actually saved because of the vaccine.

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We do know. That's the problem now. No, there's, there's people that still really believe that

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it would have been, it would have been massively worse had we not did the vaccine. And there's

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still, it would have been better. There's still... It just points me to the power of the internet.

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Yes.

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If you can get, um, if you can get enough of these platforms that you have control of, which we

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saw with Twitter ORG. Um, and, and of course, that's, you know, when you get really into all these other companies

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that are involved, you're going to see like a backdoor hand in a lot of these influential

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bots.

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And dude, this reminds me of, okay, you guys saw this ad on Instagram ORG, right? It was the ad for you could do a live stream, but now you could show that you have like 20 to 30,000 people all of a sudden watching your live stream.

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I share that with you guys. It's 100% fake.

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Yeah, I showed you guys that.

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And not only that, they had to do multiple screenings of like getting rid of everybody's

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followers because like half to like more than half of their following were all fake.

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And so it's like what we're seeing is a literally an artificial environment.

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I don't believe any of the shit. That was a video I shared that with you guys.

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There was a video of the guy. He's picking up a girl in the bar. And he's like, hey, I'm on live. He's at like a bar in like Mexico GPE.

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By the way.

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And the girl sees that he's got like thousands of people famous.

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Are you famous?

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You're famous.

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Can I see?

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Some of the most embarrassing videos I've ever seen.

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There's a lot of douchebags out there too.

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Okay.

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There's a lot of dudes that are obviously. But the embarrassing ones for women are the ones where the guy goes up to a girl. He tries to talk to her. She totally like, I don't have time for you. Whatever. I got a boyfriend. They goes, okay. And he walks over to his Lamborghini. And all of a sudden, oh, this is your car? Oh, hey, baby, let's hang out.

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Oh, I haven't seen those. How. Have you seen those? So many. Oh, really? How embarrassing?

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Like, what a, you look like such a terrible human being that you just did that. That's what happened with that Facebook ORG one, because the dude goes up to a girl, she sees he's got a bunch of followers and instantly changes her energy. So it's, okay, so it's interesting that you think that because you love to take things all the way back to evolution.

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I know why it's there. Okay? So evolutionary, that is no different than the dude who came, who, say, you know, thousand years ago was, she says, no, thank you. Then he walks over and he gets his three deer that he just killed.

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Of course.

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And she goes, oh my God.

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So it's not really different than that.

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That is modern times a way of flexing your capability of hunting.

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Of course.

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Same thing. I know. I know that.

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So that's less cringe to me. In the moment. It's more cringed to me that the dude who's like, look, I got a thousand people following me on this fucking artificial.

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This doesn't mean shit. Yeah, that means nothing.

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Doesn't mean you can hunt.

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Doesn't mean anything. It means you understand how to hack tech.

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It's just phony baloney, dude.

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That to me is way more cringe.

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The Ferrari PRODUCT thing, face value says cringe, but that's just modern times ability,

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your ability to hunt. If you can afford that thing, that means the guy's been able to go probably provide, could potentially provide for the family.

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I totally understand that. I get it.

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It's just when it's in the moment, when she literally said, screw you, and then two seconds later, Axel PERSON, ah.

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I mean, I get it.

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I get it.

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It's not, it's poor taste, no matter how you draw it up.

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But I get it, too, though.

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I mean, I understand that that's like, that's, I think that's innate. It's in, it's in, it's in, it's in you and it's like, this is why,

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here, this is my favorite statistic that highlights, you know, kind of how different men and

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women are. A scar on a woman's face will almost always bring her attractiveness down from,

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for men. Yeah. A scar on a man's face makes him more attractive. Why? Because evolutionarily,

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you're like, oh, he's, I never fixed my nose.

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He's fought before and survived. He's battle tested.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. That's why you never fixed your nose.

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Yeah.

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He became hotter.

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Yeah. You know, it doesn't even look like you broke it.

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What do you mean? I did a good job because I did it myself.

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It's very straight. You did it yourself? Yeah, it was like all the way over here.

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Was it really? Yes. You were smelling sideways? I wish you had a picture of that. I was. I know.

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I wish I wish I would you, what do you mean you do yourself? How? You just brought

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I looked at the, I looked at the mirror and I just slowly, uh, it hurt real bad.

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Oh, just pushed it. Because even when I, it's still, it's still this way. Like, like, like, as I

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breathe, I'm breathing like diagonally. No, you I breathe, I'm breathing, like, diagonally.

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No, you're not.

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I'm serious.

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You have a deviated septum?

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I'm going to have you feel it later.

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No, I don't want to do that.

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Do you have a deviated septum?

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That's not a weird.

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No.

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You sure?

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Was it from a football hit?

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No, no, no.

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This is from a fight, yeah.

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Oh, it's from a fight.

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I got Justin PERSON always gets a little embarrassed.

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We talked about it.

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I don't like talking about it.

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It sounds like a douche.

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You know why?

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Because you probably started the fight.

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That's what I probably did.

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Hold on.

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Did you win or lose the fight?

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I won that fight.

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You still won after that?

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Yeah.

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That pissed me off.

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Yeah, I kind of went crazy.

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I don't want to talk about it.

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You ever lost the fight?

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Yeah.

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Oh, really?

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Oh, yeah.

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What was that like?

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So it was embarrassing more than it was, like, painful.

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Of course.

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Yeah, it was more like, so I was talking shit about this guy.

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And he, this is when I was younger.

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And he was actually, like, with his friend, like, hiding.

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So I was down where this, like, one of my neighbor's houses, there was this, like,

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basketball court.

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And there's this retaining wall. And they were kind of, like, one of my neighbor's houses, there was this like basketball court and there's this retaining wall and they were kind of like hiding down the retaining wall. I think they were trying to like mess with me anyways. And I was, and I got in kind of like a verbal spat with them down at the bus stop. And I come back and I'm like talking shit, you know, one of my friends about them and they're down there hiding. And then jumps up, hey, what's up, man, he's talking shit?

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And I'm like, yeah, you know, like, I'm all scared because they, like, took me by surprise. And then we just got into it. And, like, it was one of these weird fights where I'm like, it's in slow motion. I'm kind of punching, hitting air. I'm like, this isn't working, you know. And then he kicked me a few times and, like, kicked?Kick me. Like, martial artist and shit? Yeah. then he kicked me a few times and like, kicked? Kicked? Like,

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martial artist and shit? Yeah. And he kicked me in the, in the ribs. And I, like, it took the, the air out of me. And I was like, I could breathe of, you know, start crying. And I was like, oh, no.

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It was so embarrassing.

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I've never been kicked before.

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I was so, because everything was so unexpected.

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Yeah, I wouldn't expect to kick at all.

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And, well, when he jumped out from the fingers, like, I was like, already, like, I don't know.

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I had a buddy.

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I was already scared and so it made me even more like, ah.

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One of the fights we got into went down like this, we were at a party.

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We at my buddy's house, the guy who got laid out.

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He was talking shit about this other guy at the, so imagine like a suburban house, right?

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And we're at the bottom of the

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driveway and people are in the garage drinking smoking and so of that and the garage is cracked

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open. And my buddy is drunk talking shit about a guy who's in the garage could hear everything.

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And dude just like slides out from the drug and running downhill. And buddy turns around it

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is blah. Brack. He sends his ass, bro, lights out from that. I was like, I got, I got a, I got a, every take?

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I got a little fight at 24.

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In the gym?

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So Don PERSON was my general manager.

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I was a weekend manager. I just moved over for fitness manager. And there was the, the, the, another senior sales counselor or whatever, or one of the top sales guys, him and I were getting an argument. And Don PERSON, I hope he doesn't get mad at me saying this. He was like, why don't you guys just,why don't you guys just like iron it out right here or whatever? So he started pushing me, we started fighting, and I put him in a guillotine, and I put him to sleep. I choked him out.

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Yeah, he fell on the ground. And he got up and he got really scared. Using your purple belt news.

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No, this is before.

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This was just,

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yeah, I just, UFC ORG watching.

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I have, I knew I had something else.

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I used to think I knew karate,

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I'd never lost in a fight,

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but I haven't been in a ton,

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like outside,

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but in a jiu-jitsu tournament,

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I got embarrassed.

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Terribly,

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terribly.

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I had won a tournament.

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Nobody scored a point on me.

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I was super cocky going to the next tournament,

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and it took the guy 15 seconds to submit me.

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And I had my family there.

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Everybody's there. Sal PERSON's going to do so great. And it was single elimination. So to submit me. And I had my family there. Everybody's there.

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Sal PERSON's going to do so great.

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And it was single elimination.

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So they showed up. They waited all day for me to fight. Purple Belt Division ORG. Yeah. 15 seconds tap out. All right, guys, we're going home.

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I'm so embarrassed.

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I was so bad.

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I had an embarrassing.

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You talk about 24th Fitness ORG and fighting. Embarrassing. So remember, I'm only like 20 years old, 20, 21 years old. And so.

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An adult. Well, I didn't, so this is, this is, no, this is even more embarrassing because I didn't even get into a fight. I actually, so I had been talking to my staff about the one of the last fights I had been in. And I was telling him how I, like, whoop this guy's ass, right? And, oh, they were talking shit to me that they didn't believe me. So they've got photos of it. So they're like, get out of here. I'm like, yeah, no, this was like a big deal. Like everybody was a huge crowd there. People took photos, video, right? And, oh, they were talking shit to me that they didn't believe me. So, they've got photos of it. So, and they're like, get out of here. I'm like, yeah, no, this was like a big deal. Like, everybody was a huge crowd there. People took photos, video of everything like that. So I had all these photos of it. I had brought it to work. You saved the photos? Yeah. You still have

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them? No, I don't. No, HR took them. So I got, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.

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Wait a minute. The next day, the next day, the next day, the next day, the next day, the next day, the next day, the next day, the next day I was audited. And I didn't even remember that they, I had brought him to work the day before.

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And they were in, like, my manager buying.

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Wait a minute.

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I'm the fucking man.

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You got audited for something else.

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Wow.

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And they audit you, they find photos of your street fight.

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Yes.

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That's hilarious.

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Swear to God.

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Oh, wow.

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You know, I think back old times.

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I'm so lucky I kept my job with. Hey, listen, it was only because, you and I, wow. You know, I think back at old times, like, I'm so lucky I kept my job with it.

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Hey, listen.

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It was only because, you know, okay, I feel like one of the reasons why people kept telling me to work with you and vice versa.

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Yeah.

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Because we have a very similar story.

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Yeah.

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We were both.

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Blackballed.

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Yeah, should have been fired multiple times. At least. But our performance kept us in the job. At least four times I've been in the office with HR ORG and then they wanted to fire me. Like I was known by like they knew who I was. I'd been down to visit me more than once.

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I wish I worked with you for different. I wish you asked to work together to cloud.

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Yeah. We would have got out of blazing glory. Oh my God. So embarrassing. What am I doing? What am I?

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I'm like, I'm an adult managing other men and women. I'm like, I got a high school street fight.

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Dude, check this out. In my binder.

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You know what I'm saying?

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Like, oh my God, what am I doing?

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And then to get caught by the HR like rep, like what is this? You know? Like, yeah, yeah, that was bad.

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Wow. Embarrassing. Yeah, I got, I got pulled in to, I told you guys this. I left the company and I left in a blaze glory and told the president F off or whatever. I thought I'd never get hired back. I got Brock PERSON and then while I was gone, I was, you know, had a gym down in Palm Desert GPE and I got shopped by a 24th Fitness vice president who's a good friend of ours now, Mike Apple PERSON, right? So he won't know who he was.

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He's pretending to be a member shopping us as he walks out, Dawn PERSON recognizes him. I'm like, oh, that's a VP for whatever. Fuck you. As he's on his way out. That's what I said to him. So, you know, I don't know, a year later, I get hired back to 24.And they gave me the club I wanted, which was up here in San Jose GPE. They had re-grand open Hillsdale GPE. And I go in there and like, hey, before you start, this was actually before, not the audit, but before you start, we want you to come up to headquarters up in Mountain View GPE and meet with your VP and your I'm like okay cool introduced you to my

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I thought it was Curtis PERSON I thought that was my VP I love him yeah yeah so I walk in and it's the

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dude that shot me as he walked out that I said F off yeah oh this is gonna suck that's my boss

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he turned out to be great we'd be I know it's I know he's a fan of the show too. Shout out to

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Mike. I don't think Mike liked me either when we first started. So, because I can't remember

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my first running with him, but it wasn't good. I definitely had like that reputation. And it's,

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it was all like stupid things. Like, like just bad luck. Yeah. Young stuff, though. You're a young guy,

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you know, and I feel like a lot of that kind of played into. Totally. I was hell immature. Come on. I

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didn't have a father parties and slap me around and tell me that was stupid.

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You know what I'm saying?

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You don't party with your employees.

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Yeah.

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That was,

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I mean,

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I made so many dumb mistakes like that.

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Yeah,

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we were young.

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18,

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19,

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20.

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I mean,

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you can't expect the 20-year-old

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to me. I hate saying that.

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Hey, biggest lesson, though, I mean, I, I mean, the biggest thing from it, take away more anything else is like, is perform, man.I tell you what.

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You get away with the lots of, that's it. You get a lot of latitude. You get a lot of latitude when you, forgiveness. When anything else, is like, is perform, man. I tell you what. You get away with the lot. That's it. That's it.

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You get a lot of latitude when you,

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when you prefer, you show up. Hey, that's no different, like, professional sports to fight, too. They put up with some personalities

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on teams. If you're the top score, you know what I'm saying? You score, you score a lot. And then it's like, okay, we can, we can figure this other shit out. So they definitely do it. Hey, I thought, I thought for sure when you brought up the, the Kendrick PERSON and I gave you the,the beef thing, you were going to do a transition to commercial. Oh, butcher boss.

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Yeah, I thought that was a layup for you. I thought, oh, I got beef. I thought Sal PERSON would be like,

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speaking of beef, speaking of beef, here's your butcher box commercial.

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You miss it, brother. You're missing what I'm doing. You got to give me a week.

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That's not it. That's too obvious.

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Hey, listen, but serious, though, what are the steak tips?

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Who had the steak tips?

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I've had them, yeah.

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Everybody's talking about it.

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I think Doug PERSON's had them, too.

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So they're just, there's chunks of steak?

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Yeah, they're almost like cubed.

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Like, they're really good.

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I do skewers with them sometimes.

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Are they pre-cooked or you cook them yourself?

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No, cook them yourself.

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They cook them.

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Oh, wow.

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And so, and what do you marinate them or what?

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Sure.

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You can.

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Yeah, or just season them. If you do skewers, it's slice an onion or a bell pepper in between and do like a barbecue

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peppers. But I'm seeing people are posting about the steak tips. Apparently, it's a really.

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It's one of the freemiums this month, right?

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It is.

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You can get those free in every box for a year if you order.

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Oh, awesome.

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And or salmon?

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Yeah, or you could choose salmon or chicken breasts.

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So you have a choice between the three.

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Oh, I just remember, I got to show you guys something.

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I thought of the perfect gift for each other.

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I think all of us would enjoy this.

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Okay.

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Doug, Google ORG. It's not often.

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We all have the same.

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Paintball security camera.

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Oh, that sounds cool. It's exactly what I said it is. It's a security camera. That's way sounds cool. It's exactly what I said it is.

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It's a security camera.

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That's way better than nest. That shoots paintballs at people.

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Stupid. That's ridiculous.

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That's amazing.

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Imagine having that in front of your house and just.

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Well, you remember the ring one?

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I told you guys that about that super cool where you actually, it's actually a drone that just takes off

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and then flies around. Yeah, but you can't shoot them.

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So this thing shoots?

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Shoots. Come on.

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I swear to God, pull it up. Let me see this. I'm going to buy one. For sure. I think this would be. Mainly because I have a crow that comes and then flies around. Yeah, but you can't shoot them. So this thing shoots? Shoots. Come on. I swear to God, pull it up.

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Let me see this.

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I'm going to buy one for sure.

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I think this would be. Mainly because I have a crow that comes and eats my garbage, pulls a garbage out of my garbage. Oh, do you really?

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It's a crow that's doing that?

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I'm not going to shoot a crow.

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Not a raccoon?

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I don't want to say that.

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What is this?

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That's it right there.

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How does this work?

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It.

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Where do you mount it?

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So push play on the play on the video there.

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Watch this.

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Let me see this.

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Blow it up.

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I want to see it. Blow it up.

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So on the bottom right.

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Here we are.

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We got to wait for the ad.

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Can you?

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That neighbor's dog that takes a shit on my lawn all the time?

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Yeah, this could be cool.

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Are you, I mean, how amazing would this be?

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Yeah, no, this is cool.

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There we are.

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Trying to skip the ad here.

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Yeah.

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Your first time on the internet.

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Oh, wait.

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Doug's a big Google ORG guy.

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It's an AI security camera.

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Oh, wait.

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It literally shoots.

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I think it might be motion detected.

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This is hilarious.

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No way, dude.

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Oh, he's a little.

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Dude, how awesome is that?

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Tell me right now you're not going to want to go buy one.

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I do want to buy this.

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You have five seconds to leave the premises.

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So I want to know if it's if it just automatically fires on anybody who is like,

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because I get people that walk back.

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My camera goes off every day and every night around dusk because everyone walks their dogs around the.

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Probably a problem because we do have neighbor kids coming over.

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Is every here to play?

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Oh, but look, this guy's aiming.

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You can aim with it.

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So you pull up your phone.

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Oh, that is.

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You can aim and fire.

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All right.

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This is a company.

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We got,

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we got to shout this company out, even though we're not paid by this. You know,

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in my oldest would hack in and figure out, you know,

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blast people.

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Paint cam.

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Paint cam.

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Yep.

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This is brilliant.

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Also, also, did you know you could buy a drone dog that has a flamethrower on it?

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I did see that.

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Yeah.

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Is that Boston Dynamics ORG?

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Because it looked like one of their robots.

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No, I don't know.

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But I think you could buy it. I think you.

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It's a flame or I. Thrower. Flame thrower drone dog or robot dog. That makes no sense why somebody be allowed to buy that.

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I don't know, but I almost... I mean, I kind of feel like if you had one and I had one, yeah.We can train that.

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No, we could battle.

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Oh, like battle.

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Flamethrow battle.

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No, what I want to get is...

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And I want this for the truckie house

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for the ice is the...

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There's an attachment

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for Doug PERSON's guns that's a flame thrower.

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Why does it have to go on a gun? Doesn't go... Yeah, just...

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No, no, no, they make... There's... Hey, look at this dog. Is it an attachment for your gun. Look at this dog. It's a fucking... It doesn't go. Yeah, just, it's, no, no, they make, no, there's, hey, look at this dog, there's an attachment for your gun. Look at this dog.

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It's a fucking,

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it's terrifying.

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Look at that.

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That is terrifying.

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Look at that,

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dude. We're so, oh my God. It's going to get weird.

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There's going to be so many, like, you can buy it. You can buy that? It's called the Terminator PRODUCT. It's $9,400.Like,

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what could go wrong?

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Listen to me.

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Like,

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like, listen to me. Listen to me. Like, who?

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Listen to me.

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I mean,

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if the shit hits,

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imagine you have a property where you've got the, the, the dog flame thrower, you got the paintball thing, like, sick.

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Yeah, but think about it right now. Let's say there's a solar, this can't be good for the climate, you guys.

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Yeah.

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Well, okay, listen.

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Imagine there's a solar flare, power goes out.

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Shit, it's the fan.

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You got this.

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You're set, man.

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You just stay in your house.

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You're like, nobody's coming inside. If your neighbors know you got a flame throwing dog.

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That's actually legal?

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Apparently.

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Good question.

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Not in California.

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Nothing's legal in California.

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Does that say it's $8,400 or something?

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$900,000.

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$9,000? Well, yeah.

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That's like a middle of the country. Okay, yeah. So are flame throwers legal in my area. The only state that's red is California.

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Oh, the only one.

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Does that mean we can't use it for the turkey house?

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We can't have nothing fun here.

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Gavin Newsom PERSON doesn't allow any fun.

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Stupid.

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I want to have a flame throwing dog.

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What is that?

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Yeah.

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They're showing how it's made.

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Uh-oh.

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So hold a second. Why did you think you attach a flamethrower to his guns? Because where we were Doug PERSON and I get. I'm so glad he didn't do that. We're, we're Doug PERSON and I get,Doug PERSON and I get the gun, our guns. There's, that's exactly what it is. It attaches right to the, the AR PRODUCT.Really?

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It goes right to it. And it just blows flying. So you can have a flame throwing robot dog, but they still don't figure out how to like have a, a dishwashing. Yeah.

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That's right.

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Like, come on. Well, because there's less precision. You know what I've always, what people have always said that is so interesting to me is, have a dishwashing. Yeah. That's right. Like, come on.

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Well, because there's less precision.

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You know what I've always, what people have always said that is so interesting

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me is, you know how many miles to, to travel to the moon and back?

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And we have, and we can, and it can, and it can, rocket can go and do that. We can't get a car to go past 100,000 miles QUANTITY. Like, that's fucking, think about that for a second.

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They can. They can. They totally can. Of course they can. You mean to tell me, like, for some reason for the last, like, I don't know, what is it? 70 years, 50 or $100,000 miles QUANTITY is like just the max, like cars go?

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Wasn't there a guy that figured out how to get engines to run on water and then he disappeared?

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Justin PERSON, is that real?

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Did you remember that guy?

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Yeah, that sounds like an urban legend, but it does, yeah, it sounds like it ran off of, like, hydrogen, right?

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Something. Yeah. It was like water powered something, and he was he was like showing people and then he disappeared.

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I heard like a lot of stories like that are like the first flying car and like the guy, you know, got like mysteriously, you know, suicide.

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It's so weird that a company wouldn't come out. I know you brought up that Rolls Roy PRODUCT stat, which I thought was really fascinating.

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I did not know that about Rolls Roy's PRODUCT.

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But it's interesting that a company like that wouldn't come out with a really expensive car. And it's like, listen, you like lifetime warranty. And we just, we take care of it. You lose money eventually. Huh? You stretch it out long enough if you lose money. Not if you get them on the service side of it. You get them on the service side. Do you know why? Do you know one of the challenges along those lines? One of the challenges with some of these new therapies with psychedelics. For example.

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It works too well.

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Yeah, one treatment.

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Yeah.

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Or two or three treatments. And then you went out to see you again for three years or two years.

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It's not like a good business model.

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No.

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And so the pharma company is like, how do we make money off of this? How do we make money off of this one? You know, okay, you know what cluster headaches are? Have you ever heard of cluster headaches?

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They're the worst, right? It's not just a migraine.

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It's like like compounded, right? Yeah, they commit suicide. And there's no treatment except for psilocybin once every six months. And they don't get the cluster headaches anymore. Wow. But there's no way to make money off that.It's not patented. And what are you going to sell you two pills? Yeah.

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A year? I don't know.

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Oh, yeah. That's guy reads.

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Okay, yeah. I want to say you got the John Deere ORG polo on and you got tons of books behind it. What do you do for work? I'm super, I'm super curious now.

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Yeah, I'm a software developer. So I develop a mobile app for John Deere ORG. Oh, good deal.

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Okay.

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That makes a lot of sense.

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All right.

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All right, cool. What's your question, man? All right. Well, hey, a huge thank you for all the great content you guys put out so consistently and being willing to take my question. So I've been consistently, I'm 36, been consistently going to the gym every morning for the last six years. But the bulk of that time,my focus was cardio. And I would occasionally throw in some light resistance training. But I found your show last fall and totally changed my time at the gyms. So I do just, you know, 10 or 15 minutes of cardio and otherwise spend the entire time doing resistance training. So, and just as I've gotten into it, I think one of the big factors that's slowing me down and slowing my recovery. And really, you guys' emphasis on the importance of sleep is what made me realize this, is that I don't get great sleep.And that's not because I'm not trying. So I've tried my best to ensure that I allow myself eight hours a night, but I never really get eight hours. I fall asleep very quickly. It's never an issue of falling asleep. But I get up multiple times through the night.And then the big deal is that I stay awake for between 30 minutes or an hour. And I track my sleep using my Apple Watch PRODUCT. I know that that's imperfect. That's not scientific. But it definitely is enough to give me a measure. And I can see very consistently, you know, fall asleep right away.And I get about, you know, usually like 40 minutes of deep sleep, rarely more than that. Like the maximum I've ever seen of deep sleep is around an hour, which I know is way less than what it should be. And then I find myself waking up in the middle of the night and then wake for 20 minutes, 30 minutes an hour, sometimes more. I've tried following your three to two, one rule on mostevenings. Sometimes it's challenging to follow it really strictly. But I try limiting my fluids and try to wind down into bedtime as best I can. I've tried high carb, low carb. So the only diet-related connection I can make is that it seems to be way worse when I'm in a calorie deficit versus a surplus. But I've not been able to make any connection between lifting days versus rest days. You know, I usually Saturday, Sunday or more my rest days.And so it seems like it doesn't really correlate. I've tried looking at different sleep products, like some of the ones that you've mentioned, but a lot of them are positioned to help you fall asleep faster, which is something I don't really struggle with necessarily. I've experimented some with low doses of melatonin, but just kind of makes me, doesn't really fix the root of the issue, just kind of makes me more drowsy. So that's where I'm at.

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I wish, pardon?

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Does your temperature fluctuate?

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And that's what kind of brings you up?

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Yeah, what wakes you up? Are you having to go pee or are you just randomly waking up out of nowhere? It's bold.

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I definitely have to go pee, you know, three times a night-ish or sometimes more. So you're like that. But sometimes it's not even that. Sometimes I wake up and I don't even have to go necessarily.So it's not just that. And it's not like I wake up sweating or extremely cold. Like I feel like, you know, we manage our temperature, you know, normally. We, you know, try to get it down to like 67, either by opening the window or run in the air or what,

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you know, whatever it takes. So there's a, uh, uh, I think I know why, but first I'll ask you,

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do you consume alcohol or cannabis? Um, not cannabis. Not cannabis. I do have like a glass of wine on the weekends, but very light amount. I mean, I'm talking like less than two glasses QUANTITY a week.

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Okay. Okay. And then you get sunlight during the day, right?

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Yeah, that's a, I mean, that's a challenge. So I work, I work a, so I work remotely. So I'm in like a shed next to my house. So I come out here in the morning before sunlight. And I usually, by the time I'm coming in, it's, you know, five, six p.m. And then I work remotely, so I'm in like a shed next to my house. So I come out here in the morning before sunlight. And I usually, by the time I'm coming in, it's, you know, 5, 6 p.m. And then I have a family.

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So that could help. Okay. Don't get a lot of sunlight. So two things. Sunlight does impact sleep quite a bit. So I would really try to make an effort either sit right next to the window or if you could workoutside for an hour.

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Or you can get a 10-minute break salad.

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Yeah. It just gets sun. Just get some sun because, I mean, we sit in the studio and we have electronic light, you know, in here.

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It definitely affects us.

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This affects my sleep for sure versus the weekends when I'm outside.

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But the second thing.

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Does it matter what time of day?

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Like, early, earlier the better. Earlier the better, but all day would be great. When the sun's out, gets some sunlight.

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That just makes a difference. But I don't think that's the root issue. I definitely think that's contributing, and I think it'll be, it'll help to get sunlight. But what you're saying sounds like textbook over stress, over, over, over training. Very textbook.

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So typically, if your body is not managing stress, which includes workouts, it could be mental

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stress, it could be personal stress.

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When those things are overwhelming for the body, very classic textbook sign is waking up throughout the night. By the way, having to pee throughout the night, that happens when you wake up.

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You're not waking up because you have to pee. It's, you wake up and then you have to

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pee. Sure. The body does a very good job of shutting that down if you're able to stay in a really,

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really good, you know, stages of sleep. So, uh, I would look at workout. I would look at your personal stress. Um, I don't know, you know, if it is indeed your workout, like one thing you could try is you could take a week or two off exercise and just walk, just stay active. And then three, four, five days into it, if you notice your sleep dramatically improves, okay,then this probably has to do with stress.

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But it's very textbook, okay? In my experience working with clients, what you're explaining, and sometimes it's hormone issues, this and the other could be, but generally speaking, it's just the body's handling too much stress. Did you say you're drinking caffeine? You're

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not drinking caffeine? I do, certainly. I did cycle off of it for a while over Christmas break.

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That was a good time to like, you know, reduce. I wasn't, you know, I don't know. It was just, I wasn't waking up as early, that type of thing. I didn't have to worry about work for, you know, for quite a while, you know, two weeks or so around Christmas. So I did get off of it 100%, but then I'm right back on it. So I absolutely rely on that.

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What's your, what's the latest time that you're drinking a caffeine drink or coffee?

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Oh, yeah, how much? I only, I only have it. So I work out right when I get up. I only have it right just before I work out and then I have none for the rest of the day. And I usually do like 200-ish, 200 to 300 milligrams QUANTITY.

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And you go to, and then what time do you go to bed?

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It's pretty early. Yeah, we usually are in bed by nine. Oh, you're fine and then what time do you go to bed? It's pretty early. Yeah, we usually are in bed by nine.

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Oh, you're fine. Yeah. We put our kids to bed and we're ready. Yeah, you're fine.

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Yeah, it's a stress thing. So what does your workout look like? Yeah. So I've done, so I have Maps power lift. And I can't say that I follow it super, super strictly. Like I, you know, watch the videos and do the workouts, but I have more or less like,I know this is totally anti everything you guys preach. So this is, you know, confession time. But I kind of just do whatever I, you know, I try not to leave the gym exhausted. But I try to just fill the, you know, whatever time I have, I try to fill it. And it also depends on how good I'm feeling at the time. So I definitely flirt some with over training, but I try to like it and it also depends on how good I'm feeling at the time.So I definitely flirt some with overtraining, but I try to like be conscious of the fact that like I want to leave the gym feeling good, like you guys say, but I definitely don't like follow the prescription to a T.

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So this helps right now. And I'm curious what you think. Right away what comes to mind for me is Maps PRODUCT 15 advanced. And instead of spending 50 minutes to an hour in the gym, getting outside and getting in the sun. So it's like if you're dedicating 50 minutes to an hour to the gym, and I'm saying, give me 20 minutes in the gym and then get outside for 40 minutes and getting sun, I think would benefit you more.

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Yeah. So here's the textbook, textbook symptom of too much stress on the body. You fall asleep quickly and then you wake up several times throughout the evening. You fall asleep quickly because you're exhausted.

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Your body's exhausted.

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So you hit the pillow and it's like,

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I'm out.

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But then you end up waking up throughout the night.

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That's textbook over training, over stress. You know, you do have two kids. I know what that's like. How old are your kids?

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So I've actually got four kids.

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So I've got a 10-year-old, an 8-year-old, a 5-year-old, and then a 1-5-year-old DATE. So, yeah.

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Yeah, we're busy.

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Yeah, bro.

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What's going on?

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How are you doing, buddy?

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It's too much stress.

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We might prescribe hugs.

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Yeah, you're doing too much. So, you know, might prescribe hugs. Yeah, you're doing too much.

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So, you're managing too much.

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You're also software, you know, engineer.

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So your work is probably stressful in the sense of high performance,

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deadlines.

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And then on top of it, it is stressful in the body to sit and look at a computer and do that all day long.

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I do that for 12 hours a computer and do that all day long.

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I do that for 12 hours a day. Yeah.

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Oh,

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yeah.

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Yeah.

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I literally.

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No, Adam PERSON's prescription is it.

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Maps.

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That's what I would do.

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Map 15 and then the other 30, 40 minutes TIME you have, go outside.

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Go outside.

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Just nice walk.

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That's it.

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And actually do something for yourself, very enjoyable.

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I don't know if you like listening to audio books or certain music.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Choose something therapeutic to put in your ears and walk.

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Just get outside.

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And you know what will happen? By the way, here's what will happen. You'll get stronger in the genus.

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Yes, yes.

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That's how you know, like, oh, my God, I'm way stronger.

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Like, okay, this is moving in the right direction.

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So.

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And this one, I'm going to ask you to follow to a T. So don't be doing your own shit. Follow it to a T as it's laid out. Maps Anabolic Advanced. Excuse me, Maps 15 PRODUCT advanced version, which is the barbell version. And then the other 30 to 40 minutes TIME, go outside the gym and just go walk out in the

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sunlight and put something in that you, that'll have a huge thing for you.

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That'll be very very. Relaxing music or audio book and just really. That's the biggest movers. I mean, we haven't talked about it a long time but i don't know if you wear any of the blue blockers in front of the screen the whole time you're on there

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and you know i've i've looked at them i've looked them up and then i get like i'm not sure which one to get and so i kind of get this paralysis of decision and i just not not purchased any yeah so

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you think of a stress bucket okay and it's filled with water to the. Blue light blocking glasses is taking a teaspoon of water out of there. Changing your workout, like we said, is dumping a decent amount.

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So, so, and then when your sleep gets better, your ability to handle more stress goes up.

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And adding, adding the sunlight in there is going to grow your bucket.

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Yeah, so, so I would.

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Those are the big ones. Yeah, I just, just literally follow maps 15 advanced bar, barelt, you're in the gym, you're doing two exercises. That's it. You're out. Don't go to failure. Spend some time outside and then do the rest of your day.And you'll notice, you should notice some pretty profound impact.

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Doug PERSON's going to send that to you. And I'd love for you to follow back with us and let us know how this, you know, give it a few weeks of doing this consistently.

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And then let us know how things are going.

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I have a pretty confident you're going to see.

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I would do this because we're talking. What's today? Today's Tuesday. I would take the rest of the week off, start, MAPS 15 advanced next week. And then that'll be a good start.

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I don't know if I've ever taken, I mean, I know.

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Oh, bro, you're just giving us more. This will be good for you. Take it off. This is good. This is good. The more you talk,the more information that you just keep firm.

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You just keep firm.

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I feel like the gym is my stress street. Like, that is my way. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, Sal. Hey, so this is like, hey, what you, and if, to take Sal's advice, so it doesn't feel like you're, you know, you're losing a limb to just go for the walk for the rest of the week. So go outside. So start right now, getting outside, instead of going lifting weights and hitting anything or running or doing anything intense, go for a nice walk. You're going to burn

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some calories, get some movement. I like what Adam PERSON's saying, because I'm assuming you leave the house, but if you stayed home for an extra hour and a half, then you got to deal with the kids and all that

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shit. So you're not really getting stress relief. So yeah, do it out of so. Go for a nice walk outside. I would love it. It's probably good weather. I don't know where you're at. Over here, it's nice weather right now. But if it's good enough weather to be outside, go outside, do that for the rest of the week. Next week, start the Maps 15 program the way we had it laid out. Don't add anything to it. And then the extra time add that walk. And I promise you, give me a few weeks of that. And I think you'll feel different. I think you'll notice within a week or two.

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Yep. Yeah, that sounds solid. I'll give that a shot. I mean, it's certainly plausible.

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I, um, and thank you.

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But as it relates to overtraining, I've been living under the assumption that as long as I'm progressing, you know, strength-wise, you know, I can keep upping progressive overload.

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As long as that seems to be going well, like I'm not overtraining. Is that not necessarily.

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Well, the reason why it's not necessarily true, Kyle PERSON, with you is because this is relatively new for you. You are a run, run type of guy,

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and you're just now really becoming a weightlifting guy. So you're actually getting,

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you're getting a lot of the newbie gains and benefits of getting strength. And so what's

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happening is it's telling you're getting that and you're like, oh, I'm doing fine because I'm

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getting stronger. I'm doing better. So I must be fine. But that a lot, you're getting in spite of

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yeah. But what you're noticing right now

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is you're waking up,

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uh, but if you keep going down this path, it'll, you'll start getting louder signals.

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Yeah, it'll eventually, it'll eventually stall.

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What's cool, it's very clear. I've seen this personally with clients, at least a dozen times. And then with other trainers and stuff like many times. It's a very classic textbook.Too much, too much stress. Literally fall asleep quickly, wake up throughout the night.

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That's like that's 85% of the people who do that. That's what's happening. I think you're going to see a profound difference just from the advice right here.

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If you follow it, that's going to be the key is to take it and follow it.

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And I promise you'll feel a difference.

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All right.

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Well, thank you guys.

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I really, really appreciate it.

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That sounds spot on. I'll give it a shot. Cool. Follow up with us. All right, Kyle. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. Do you know who did the same thing? What? Mike Matthews. And I were talking back and forth and he was having issues with sleep and he would tell us about it, you know, like whatever. And he dropped his by a third. He's like, all of a sudden he could sleep. He's like, bro, I was over

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training. It's a very classic textbook. And there could be other reasons. You know, it's funny.

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I'm not saying, it's always true, but it's often true. The more he talked, the more, I was like,

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oh, okay. I was like, I don't know. This is a kid. You have four kids. Yeah. Yeah.

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Listen, come on. To anybody. To anybody who's listening. Any time I sit for a couple of hours straight looking at a screen, it fucks with me. And by the way desk for 12 hours a day. To anybody who's listening. Anytime I sit for a couple hours straight looking at a screen, it fucks with me.

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And by the way, to anybody who's listening right now, especially a trainer or coach,

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who's like, oh my God, how did they know?

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It's just purely based off the experience.

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We've trained so many people for so long that I've seen enough people like this where I could guess.

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And then he confirms it as he continues along.

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By the way, for trainers and coaches, this is why we made our trainer course the way we

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made it.

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We literally put our experience in there.

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It's not like other certifications.

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This is our experience.

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So you could go in there learn and then you'll be able to work with people like we just did

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on this.

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I'm glad he brought up the fact that he was still seeing positive things as far as like strength in the gym and stuff like that because we've talked about, that's like one of the number one indicators,

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but it doesn't mean it's the only one or doesn't mean that you're necessarily... It's not foolproof. Yeah, especially with a guy who's really just introduced strength training. So of course he's seeing positive.And that's why too. He's not even following our novelty games. He's not even following our programs. So you could almost do anything weight training-wise and you're going to see positive change because it's this new adept, it's novel, and his body's going to have those newbie gains. And even though he's not taking care of his sleep, even though

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he's got all this stress going on. But what's great is that if he takes the advice, he should be able

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to do less. He's stranglinging. He'll go faster. Exactly. He'll see even better results in the gym,

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and the sleep will improve, and he'll be doing less inside the gym.

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Our next caller is Michael from New York GPE.

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What's up, Michael?

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How you doing, man?

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Hey, guys.

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How you doing?

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Good.

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I'm going to help you.

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Well, I got some questions about power lift and grip strength. So I figured I'll give you guys just a quick bit of background because I promised my wife I wouldn't fan girl too hard.

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Well, you guys are amazing.

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I know you hear it all the time.

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The impact you're having on the fitness community is profound.

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I was always doing push-ups kind of on and off, quit smoking cigarettes almost four years ago and got really into weightlifting.

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And then six months in, I found you guys.

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I've been a tremendous help to me. So I guess I'll just get right into it. So Maps Powerlift phase one, the last week of phase one where you add weight until you hit eight reps. When I do that, the estimated one rep max is usually significantly, my one rep max is usually significantly higher than what I did with eight reps. So should I stick to the estimate or should I use what I got eight reps for or my last tested one rep max?

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Use yours.

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The formula, you know, this is that one of our challenges. The problem with RPE. And why we don't do RPE in any other program, right? We knew we had to do it for a power lifting program because people would be following this to get ready for a meet and they would need something specific like this. But this is part of the reason why we always coach to you guys or we talk on the show about learning to feel this stuff out because there is no perfect mathematical formula to give to somebody to like follow this protocol. It's a good base and a generic start for somebody who's absolutely clueless on what weight they should put on the bar.But somebody who's got experience like you even knows that like, oh, I can feel that I've got this much more in the tank. Even though it's telling me I only need to do this, I would tell you to go off your feel.

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So I'm going to go, I'm going to push back just a little bit here because I'm like you are. So whenever I do an estimate based off of, you know, I can my one rep max is always higher than what the, what I'm going to push back just a little bit here because I'm like you are. So whenever I do an estimate based off of, you know, my one rep max is always higher than what I'm supposed to be able to do based off of what I do for X amount of reps. And I think it's, I don't know if it's fast switch muscle fibers, whatever the case may be. Now, I found with myself and with other people I've worked with and some friends that are power lifters that when you follow the programming,even though your one rep max is different than what it may be calculating, it tends to be better to go towards that side than it is to go towards pushing the intensity at a higher level. In other words, it's probably better to underdo it a little bit. And as long as you're seeing yourself getting stronger and stronger and stronger, it might be better to go that waybecause what tends to happen when you go off of what your actual one rep maxes each time is the intensity gets pushed a little too hard in my experience with a lot of people, especially with people who are newer to powerlifting or this style of training, especially if you've done any bodybuilding training in the past where intensity is a little bit, it's gauged differently than it is for powerlifting. Powerlifters rarely train for intensity.It's really based off of numbers. And if they go in and today it says, I'm supposed to do five reps with this weight. And they're like, wow, that was easy. Coach is like, I don't care. We're not adding weight to the bar.Do five reps with that weight. It's typically what they'll do. Same thing with Olympic EVENT coaches.

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Until they start to really fine-tune things. It's typically with this. I think it's reps just like anything else. Like, I mean, is this like a very recent venture for you in terms of powerlifting? Is this the first time you've really tried to kind of hone in on that?

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So this is my second time running the program. I did take a break. At the end of the first time I did power lift, I switched right into phase two and phase three of aesthetic, but with unilateral movements instead of barbell.

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And I just restarted. So now I think I'm weak three of phase two of power lift right now.

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How are the strength gains? So so far it's been great. Last time I ran power lift right now. How are the strength gains? So so far it's been great. Last time I ran power lift, I hit PRs on all of my lifts. This time I'm on track to. I think I kind of have been overdoing it with the intensity or I've just like my stress management is maybe off because like my joints are really talking to me.

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So follow the calculations. Don't go off of your actual, what you think of one rep max is. And consider this too, Michael. The stronger you get, your volume is going up. The load on the body is going up. So you may be doing the same sets, same program,but maybe last time when you did power lift, your squat sets were, you know, 135, 185, 225, or whatever. And now you're 225, 245, 265. And you're like, well, I'm doing the same amount of sets. But your weight has gone up. So the volume has gone up.And what you'll find is the stronger you get, the more important it is to reduce intensity than when you're weaker because it's increased the volume. And so what you're feeling right now is probably a result of that. You're lifting more weight than you needed before. You're probably more confident, maybe pushing yourself a little harder.I would back off and follow the programming and let it do its work.

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I mean, in a perfect world, like if this was me like trying to figure this out for myself, in a perfect world, I'm going to run this two different times in two different ways, right? I'm going to run at one timewhere I'm going to be like so true to the RPE and what it says. And even if I feel like I'm like I'm sticking to it, right? And I'm going to leave the gym going like, I know I could have done more. But that's okay. I'm following this time around.I'm following a tree. Then I'm going to do another one where I'm like, hey, when I feel like I got more of me, I'm going to add more. I'm going to do off how I feel. And then compare the two's the results and decide like what because probably the truth. It's probably somewhere in the middle of those two. I think to Sal PERSON's point and whyhe kind of countered what I said, it's like you're probably almost always, and this tends to be the truth with when we're training anybody, especially a power lifter or somebody who's been training for a long time, leaning towards the less is more. I mean, we tend to fool ourselves to, oh, I can handle, you know, I can tolerate, I can handle more, but is that necessarily optimal for me to get

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stronger and keep heading in that direction? Especially if you're feeling your joints, right?

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That's usually a sign that you're going a little too much. Okay, so then I'll just

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cut back on the weight a little bit. That's what I did this. I went in today. I cut the weight down to my last tested one rep max and I felt a lot better. Good. So I'm just going to keep doing that until my joints feel better. And I've been doing the mobility stuff on my off days or afterwards. Awesome. Good. So my next question is also related to power lift when peaking in the last phase, is there a percentage range of increase over my one rep max I should aim for? Like a two to five percent over my one rep max is like that's going to be the target that I hit after, you know, when I go for a meet or when,

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you know, after the last week. Oh, that's a good question. That's, there's such an individual.

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That's a really good question. So have you done a meet before? No, I don't plan to. I just want to, I have certain numbers in mind before I potentially do anything else.

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So I've only been to one and they give you multiple, you get to go do the lifts multiple times.

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You'll come out and do three dead lifts or three, whatever. I would go with what you know you can do first. What you don't want to do is bomb. So I'd go and then go from there. Ooh, that felt good. Let's go another 15 pounds or whatever.And then based it off of that. That's going to take some experience to kind of figure out what that's going to look like. Okay, cool.

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Yeah.

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And finally, I just got one of those great strength testers because I've heard you guys talk about it.

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I know you had, I forgot his name is some trainer. DeFranco. Joe DeFranco PERSON. You guys talked about it with him, because I've heard you guys talk about it. I know you've had, I forgot his name is some trainer. DeFranco PERSON.

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Joe DeFranco PERSON.

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You guys talked about it with him, but I don't remember many specific, like, specifically about percentages and how they relate to training. I just know that if it's lower than average, then you go a little easier. But I was wondering if you could give me any sort of, like, closer to a specific metric. I know it's going to be individual, but like if it's down 25% should I just get the gym in total, total or like just do like walking and maybe trigger sessions or, you know, is it 60 to 70% below when I'm,you know, 60% of my one rep max is what I should train at that day.

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I would only go, I would only get specific, like really, really detailed if I've been training for someone, training someone for a long time and able to identify their own patterns. Basically, you're not going to go wrong. It's with your non-dominate hand.

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You squeeze it as hard as you can. And you get yourself an average. And if it's a little below that, yeah, you're probably okay. If it's a little above it, you're probably okay. If it's like, wow, I'm, you know, that's a lot lower than I average. And if it's a little below that, yeah, you're probably okay. If it's a little above it, you're probably okay. If it's like, wow, I'm, you know, that's a lot lower than I average.

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And you feel low. Like, it's confirming how you are going into that day. That's kind of how I would gauge it

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is more of like, this is like a metric now kind of producing what I thought, or sometimes it surprises me, like I still have a pretty good grip strength reading. And so, you know, I'll still play with somewhere in between that, though, you know, based off of like, I like to lean on how I feel more. And I know people hate to hear this, but so much of your workouts and how successfully you're always going to be based off a feel.So, you know, you're doing the, you're doing this grip strength test. And you're like, well, you know, I'm averaging, you know, on're doing the, you're doing this grip strength test. You're like, well, you know, I'm averaging, you know, on average, I do 130 pounds with each squeeze. And today was 125, you know, and I feel okay, probably fine. Or I was 100. Okay, that's 30 pound difference. I probably should take it easy. And then based off of how that works for you over time, you'll get a better idea of how to be more accurate with what you're reading.

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Well, this requires a long period of time of data. So you got to be doing that before every workout. So you have any kind of point to go back

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and kind of look at trends.

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Michael, what do you do for a living?

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I know, you're very numbers.

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I'm a mechanic.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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I'm just curious.

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Very detailed type questions,

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came off very engineer, like that type of guy that would

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organize his books by color.

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He also just got certified.

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Are you trying to train people?

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So if it was a lateral move for me financially, then yes, I'd be a trainer.

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My wife organized the books.

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She's the OCD one.

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Yeah.

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My dad's also an engineer.

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So that's maybe where I get.

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Yeah, you sound like one of my engineer clients.

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That's how, like, my engineers ask questions just like this.

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Yeah, you're not going to, it's not going to be a lateral financial move to be a

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trainer for a mechanic, unfortunately.

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But, but I just, you can supplement.

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Sorry.

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You could supplement in the moment with like online coaching or something like that and then

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take it from there.

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I help my friends and family out for free.

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And I'm like the guy to go to like in my circle with like anyone has a question about

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vitamins or exercise routine.

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And I always point them in your direction.

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And you know, anything I share from you guys, I kind of distill that for them. Awesome. Yeah. So that's really what I've been doing.

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I mean, you'll have to go through the court.

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Definitely go through the course if you decide to make the week.

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Did you do our three day training? Yeah.

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The free training that we did? The webinar?

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Yeah.

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I know it was probably a long time ago.

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I did all your webinars, the Prime Pro PRODUCT, the Maps Prime and Prime Pro webinars.

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No, no.

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This one was for trainers.

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This is where I teach you.

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Adam PERSON and I are up there teaching trainers how to build a better business, how to present.

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It's really, really cool if you're interested in that kind of stuff.

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I mean, if you're interested in that space at all, it's worth, it's free.

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So it's worth it time.

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It's mind pump trainer course.com and it's a three day free webinar for trainers.

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Yeah, I would definitely be interested in that.

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All right.

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I, I, yeah, I've just been trying to help people as much as I can. And like I said, if it was a lateral move, I would definitely be in the health and wellness industry. I kind of found it out after I'm already a career mechanic, but that's okay.I still really enjoy it, so it doesn't matter.

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Oh, good.

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Good for you, man. Well, thanks for calling in, bro. Thank you so Oh, good. Good for you, man. Well, thanks for calling in, bro.

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Thank you so much, guys.

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You got it, man.

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All right. Yeah, for, I mean, true. If he's a career mechanic, it would be a step down and pay for a little while.

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Yeah, at least. Yeah, but I mean, we're at a time now where you could do kind of both.

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Exactly. Cool. Exactly.

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Yeah, you know, when it comes to, like, to give an example of what I'm talking about. It's so hard to answer this questions, by the way, which is why I think there's very few times you hear us like,

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disagree or like, I'll never forget. I'll never forget. There was this Soviet NORP style of training. I'll never forget,

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if you guys ever tried it or anybody watching, try it's really crazy. They would take an athlete, and I'll use a number. Is this a two and a half pound thing?No, no. They could, every day.

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Let's say somebody could squat three, 15 for 15 reps. And they would go, you're going to squat 315, three days a week for 10 reps, and you're going to do it for 45 days.

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Regardless how easy it gets. Yeah. Just three days a week, you do, you're going to go in. You're going to do 10 reps, even though you could do 15. Then at the end of the 45 days DATE, you see what you can lift. And you often add like 30, 40 pounds to your lift.And by the end of that 45 days DATE, it's just easy. So you're like, well, how could I be getting stronger?

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This is just feeling like a piece of cake. Well, this is how the body gets stronger. So when it comes

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like power lifting training, if you ever watch a living in that lift now, you've really like honed in.

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You've really, like your body like the right mechanics. You rarely ever see an Olympic EVENT lifter, like a real Olympic lifter or power lifter training with this, oh, that crazy like bodybuilder type intensity. Sometimes it looks like

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they're just kind of practicing the movements. That's what, that's what gets you strong.

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Our next caller is Randy PERSON from Arizona. What's up, Randy? How are you doing? How can we help you?

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Hello. Um, hi. I'm a lot more nervous than I thought I was going to be. Um,

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but, um, I'm just going to start out. I'm just going to

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kind of read off my phone. I know that everybody starts off by saying thank you, but I really do

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feel like I do have to say thanks. I have been listening to you guys for several years now.

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And you guys have just really helped my relationship with food and exercise. I had like a whole

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cycle throughout my life of just like restricting and binge eating.

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So you guys really showed me that I can like eat more food and still be okay with that.

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So I've gone from like 1,700 maintenance calories up to like 2,300 now.

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Awesome.

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I guess I'll just get back into what I wanted to say.

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That's for my question.

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So I am 32 years old and I'm 5 foot 2. I have been working out consistently for four years and then for a few years before that inconsistently while I was in school. At the beginning of my fitness journey, I started at 177 pounds with the weight circumference of 37 inches. To now, I am 171 pounds with the weight circumference of 31 inches.And my last body scan showed that I am 29% body fat. I've always struggled with belly fat, however. Last June, I did take Stephen Cabral's PERSON food sensitivity test and found out I'm intolerant to dairy and sesame. So since June, I have cut both of those out. I've noticed a significant decrease in chronic painful bloating.Oh, and then also at the same time, I did change from being a pescatarian for 10 years to incorporating meat back in. Since then, I have noticed significant strength and just overall, like, body composition. However, I do feel like my, like, midsection really hasn't changed at all. I'm also still experiencing intermittent bloating, sometimes with an increase of seven inches in circumference that is both painful on just all. I'm also still experiencing intermittent bloating, sometimes with an increase of seven inchesin circumference that is both painful and just overall uncomfortable. I also have fatigue, low libido, and then a high stress job. So I'm just trying to figure out like what direction to take, whether this is just like not enough discipline and I just need to trust the process or maybe there might be something more like hormonal imbalances.

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Yeah, Randy PERSON, so let me get this straight. So, well, two things. Number one, your maintenance calories went from 17 to 23, but you lost weight on the scale, which is exceptional. That's phenomenal. Is that that that's correct?

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Yeah, that really was over the span of like a long time. I will, I guess, yeah, I guess I went from like 1,800 and then to 23 within a couple months. Yeah.

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Okay, cool, cool. All right. So what's the difference in your circumference of waste between meals? I'm reading here on this, on your question that it could be a change of seven inches in diameter in a matter of a meal.

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I'm in, yeah, I'm in circumference, but I realize that.

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But, um, yeah.

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So it's like not all the time, but then it's also just like really just random. It can be like I had just like a couple drinks out with friends or like I'm eating a meal that I've already been like eating.

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That's definitely a reaction.

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Seven inches is.

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Yeah, yeah.

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There's something going on.

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It sounds like it could be Candida.

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It could also be a parasite.

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It could be Cbo or it could be all three.

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The only way to know is to do some gut testing.

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But that's that, I'm almost positive is what's happening.

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That shouldn't happen.

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You shouldn't get a change in the, in the circumference of your waist, you know, close to seven inches, which sounds painful.

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Sounds like you get really bloated. And by the way, you know, this symptom can happen in men as well. But I've seen this in women where I had one client, she would, she sent me, she would send me pictures. And it was like before she ate after she ate. And it was like flat and then pregnant. And we ended up doing gut testing allstuff and she had several issues that she had to treat over the course of six months and then it was gone so I would I would work with you already did Dr. Cabral ORG's food intolerance test I would actually

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hire one of their people are you in the forum already with them we have that free forum are you in

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there I'm not in there no yeah now now Yeah. Now, here's the good news.

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It's probably something you can treat.

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And then once you treat it, it's gone.

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But it's something because that's not supposed to happen.

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And many times it's stalling progress in building muscle and burning body fat.

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I mean, just by simply healing that, everything else tends to fall into place.

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I mean, you know, a parasite or candida or SIBO can also cause ups and downs and energy,

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energy crashes.

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It can cause anxiety, sleep disturbances, changes in libido and mood.

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If any of these are ringing a bell, you know, they don't have to, by the way, just the change in the circumference between a meal is telling me that's a big red flag. But if you have those other symptoms that I'm talking about or some of those other ones, then I would go get tested. They'll find what the problem is and then you'll be able to fix it.

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Okay. So more because like I saw like on like Stephen Cabral PERSON, like he has a bunch of testing and stuff for that. But like do you think, I don't know, should I just go to like one like functional medicine doctor that could maybe be a little more.

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Yes. Well, yeah.

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You can actually hire one of their, one of their doctors to do like a, you need to do a one-on console. Instead of you buying a bunch of over the like test and trying to guess based off the results.

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No, they'll be able to direct you in the right direction.

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You have enough signals that something's going on that even like the advice we're giving,

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Cabral ORG's team will be able to go deeper into this and have better answers than we have.

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And it'll be worth the investment to hire someone to get to the bottom of this because it'll be life changing for you.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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All right.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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Yeah, you got it.

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Please circle back to you.

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I'd love to hear back.

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And then the forum, because we're in there also, is the MP holistic health forum.

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So it's on Facebook ORG.

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It's free.

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That's Cabral ORG's team.

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In fact, you could just post in there, hey, I'm looking to hire or do a console for the doctor.

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Exactly.

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And then somebody will probably reach out to you right away on there.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Yeah, that would be great.

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Because, yeah, like, I just noticed, like, in the mornings when I wake up, I'm like, okay, like, I could see some progress.

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And then, like, literally after breakfast, then all of a sudden, and just a huge difference.

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Yeah.

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And kind of discouraging.

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Well, no, well, this is good news.

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This is a very obvious sign that there's something that you could treat.

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So this doesn't, at this point, it's not, fixable.

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It's not mysterious.

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You just got to do some testing to find out how to treat it the right way.

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Okay. All right. Thank you. You got it. do some testing to find out how to treat it the right way. Okay.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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You got it.

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I mean, look, let's just use my own personal example.

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Like, I tried treating my own gut issues so many times.

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And I'd get better and worse and better and worse.

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Finally, I'm like, let's just test it. And I had a parasite. Treated the parasite and everything's gone. So it's like once you figure out what it is and you treat it, then you're good. But that's a red flag. If you eat meals and unless it's like a major food intolerance you have, but she alreadyreduced, she cut those out. If you eat a meal or eat meals and it doesn't matter almost what you eat or if it's just carbs in general, for example, that's another one. And you get this huge blow right afterwards and uncomfortable and it's like matter almost what you eat or if it's just carbs in general, for example, that's another one. And you get this huge blow right afterwards and uncomfortable and it's like you can measure it. That's a red flag.

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Dude, if it was a couple inches, it would be a red flag. Seven inches?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bro, that's dramatic. Yeah, it is. That's a huge difference. So there's definitely something going on.

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Our next caller is Zach from Florida GPE. What's up, Zach PERSON? So, Zach PERSON.

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How can we help you?

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Hey, what's going on, guys?

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How are you doing?

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What's going on? Good, man. I'm starstruck, just like everyone else says. You know, I know you guys are probably tired of hearing it, but, you know, so my bad. Got to give a shout out to my brother, Ben, for introducing me to you guys over two years ago now. Right.

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So you guys are giving me so much time over the years, and it's just been, you know, it's been really great listening to you guys.

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Thank you.

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I'll get right in my phone. Won't waste too much of you guys time. Okay.

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So basically, I want to know, I know you guys talk about establishing a why for your training. And so I've been training for a little over a decade, I'd say. I'm 27 now. And I used to compete in bodybuilding. And, you know, that really, you know, the I used to compete in bodybuilding. And that really, you know, the contest prep of that really helps with my, you know, establishing consistency anddiscipline and all that. And even without contest prep as a motivator, I've always been relatively consistent with it. But over the past probably two or three years DATE now, I've really had trouble maintaining that consistency and just either program hopping or just kind of going through the motions in terms of exercises and just not really having a clear established plan with it. And in turn, it's kind of, it's really ruined my relationship with food and having binge eating tendencies. And so I was wondering, how do youreignite that kind of spark, I guess, if you want to call it, call it that without being always aesthetically motivated.

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Ooh, that's a good, that's a really good question. Are there any other interests you have besides aesthetics when it comes to physical fitness?

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Yeah, so I find with that it's, I only know it if I come across it. And so an example of that for me is last year I was introduced to Kravma Gha ORG training because my brother and mom got into it. And so I just joined them for, they had a free class. And so I just said, you know, why not? I didn't really think I'd get into it that much, but I actually really did end up enjoyingit. But I didn't end up continuing because I had moved. And so there were obviously logistical problems with that. But, you know, even I've been looking to get into that, but I still haven't got back into it. So it's like, I know I'd have these performance-based interests. I just feel as if I haven't discovered them yet.

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Yeah. You know, I mean, I think that's a great, some great insight. Like, you know, I did Brazilian jiu-jitsu for a while, and I strength training took a back seat for about six years. And it was great. It was really great for me to do that. Now, I love lifting weights.It's my favorite thing in the world. So I don't think I'll ever veer away from that. But for someone like you, you'd bodybuild for a while. You've been lifting weights for 10 years. I would say venture outside of the gym. Krav Maga, good example, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu ORG, another example, kickboxing, or something else that's active and then use strength training as a way to support it.That, in my experience, has always been really a recipe for success for people who maintain fitness for their whole lives. Very rarely do you find somebody who maintains fitness their whole life doing the exact same thing. Those are the fanatics, but I know more people who are fit for their whole lives. Very rarely do you find somebody who maintains fitness their whole life doing the exact same thing. Those are the fanatics. But I know more people who are fit for their whole lives who tend to do that. Like they'll cycle sometimes and they'll swim other times. They'll do other type of endeavors. And then you can use a strength training to support that.

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Zach PERSON, what programs of ours have you ran? Yeah. So I've started anabolic advance. And then,

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of course, due to my program hopping tendencies,

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I fall off of it because I always try to prioritize the aesthetic aspect of it. So for example, on the days with the more corrective exercise and mobility days, which have been very helpful for me to learn and implement into my training, but still I try to implement both things at the same time, establish trying to do high volume work and adding more onto what you guys already have in there.In addition to all this other stuff. And it's, you know, and I know I need to stop doing that. It's just hard to convince myself to do so.

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Zach PERSON, how many times did you compete in bodybuilding?

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I did about three or four competitions. It's been five years since I've done it.

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Do you remember the mental state that you were in for the diet, the pre-contest diet? How long would you diet going into the show?

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I do 12 to 16 weeks about. Okay.

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Here's what I want you to do with MAPS Anabolic Advanced. I want you to take that mindset. Are you able to get that mindset back if you think back to it? Because pre-contest diet sucks. You're just eating. You're just eating what you're supposed to it? Because pre-chontas diet sucks. You're just eating.

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You're just eating what you're supposed to. I actually want to switch this program.

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Yeah. I want to do old-time strength. Yeah, exactly. I think old-time strength or you need to do something that's, because the reason what's happening is completely different.

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Yeah, good idea.

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You are, you keep tipping back into your old, like, I'm aesthetic-driven guy, which I could totally write to this, which is why when I did mobility, what I couldn't do was do both.

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I couldn't be MAP's aesthetic and then lots of mobility with it because then I kept getting

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excited about aesthetics because that's what I love to do. That's what I'm good at. So I had to become the full mobility guy. I had to give up, like, caring about how strong I was, what I looked like. I quit. It became everything was centered around mobility stuff.And that was the way that I committed to that. That's how I got all the great results from it. It was incredible. So I think you need to do the same thing. I think MAPS, Anabolic Advances PRODUCT too much aesthetic driven.

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It's bodybuilder.

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Yeah, it's still bodybuilder-esque. You need to go the opposite direction. Old-timey, performance, OCR, strong, some of these other ones that are not aesthetic-focused at all.

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And I love old-timey because there's you, and that was exactly where I was thinking, Justin PERSON was because there's lots of unique exercises and moves in there. That you're going to suck at it.

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You'll have to get good at them. And let that discipline side of you where you really get into something, like get into those moves, like get into performing and getting good at a windmill, you know, like get into that and allow that to be the thing that you focus on,your drive, your why, and stick to it and stick to it for the entire program.

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That's a great idea. Yeah. And at the end of the day, the byproduct is that like you're going to build strength in different parts of your body. You didn't have, which then is going to reflect that. So when you go back to aesthetic training, you know, it's going to build out a lot of, you know, of your physique. You didn't know you had potential there. So it's like you just got to vest all the way into a different mindset. And I think this is the easiest way to do that is to jump into an entire environment that's not conducive to like the bodybuilder style.

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Yeah. And you guys, I know you're absolutely right about that because I guess thinking back, I just try to stick close to home, so to speak.

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So I don't, I just want to avoid looking stupid in the gym because it's mindset of in there for, you know, over a decade.

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You know, of course I need to look like I know what I'm doing, but I know you guys are absolutely right. Yeah,

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that's what I did.

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And by doing anabolic advance, you're still flirting too much with the same thing. It's like you said,

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it'd be like me, uh, still doing map split PRODUCT, but it's not aesthetic. So it's not exactly what I do. You know what I'm saying?No, map ORG's anabolic advanced is a bodybuilder program.

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Yeah, it's too much like bodybuilding. You need to go the total opposite or adopt,

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like, what Sal originally say like, you know, lean into the Krav Maga PRODUCT or lean into Jiu-Jitsu, lean into a physical sport that you love and allow that to dictate your training and drive it or choose one of our programs that you would never choose. Like, you would be like, I don't, that is an appeal to me. But hey, give it a shot and commit to it and make your commitment.I'm going to get good at this. I'm going to get good at these movements. And the irony is that

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you probably will end up with still the great physique afterwards. But you're not focused on that.

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You're focused on the movement and getting good at these exercises you're not familiar with.

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And nobody does those lifts. So I wouldn't even worry about sucking at it.

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Nobody watching you do that. They can make what? And then they'll try it

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and they'll suck even worse than you. So,

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yeah, that's the beauty of it. Yeah, we'll send that

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to you. That's a good, that's good, that's good advice.

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Oh, great. Thank you, good. Yeah, you got it, man.

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Awesome, yeah.

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That's, that was my question.

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All right, brother. Stick to it, Zach PERSON.

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Okay, don't quit on me. Stick all the way through it, okay?

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Well do. Thanks, guys.

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All right, man.

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Great advice. A hundred percent, right? Well do. Thanks, you guys. All right, man. Yeah, man. Great advice.

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100%, right? 100% that would be, because he's still in the gym. You're doing some different lifts. He'll probably, it definitely could spark that interest,that fun that you got the first time he started working out.

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I mean, 10 years, he does, you know, he's bench pressed, curled overhead press so many times. I mean, that's what originally led me in that direction with the unconventional stuff.

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It was just like, I got bored, you know, and I was like doing the same thing all the time,

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and I just wanted to challenge myself in any way.

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I actually think this is such an important question. I mean, you got to remember, we all really like lifting weights, too. Imagine a person who doesn't really like it and has been disciplined enough to stick to a way of training long enough to get good aesthetic results or get a good healthy body fat percentage or whatever it would be it's really tough to extend that to five

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years 10 years 15 years without interrupting it with other pursuits and fitness and you know it took

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me a while to figure that out then that's become a hack like I know that like man if I'm not

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motivated to go to the gym and follow like man I'm going to do something totally different you know

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and it also is okay because when you you're at it, you're not like judging yourself like,

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oh, man, I was benching whatever. Like just, it's like, there's no previous record. Yeah, there's no

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previous record of you doing this movement or training this way. So everything's kind of a positive upswing for you, which is is super motivating. Totally. Look, do you want to get big arms?

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We have a get big arm guide. It's free at mind pump free.com ORG. You can also find all of us on Instagram. Justin PERSON is at Mind Pump, Justin. I'm at Mind Pump DeStefano and Adam PERSON is at Mind Pump Adam.

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