MHI #202: Interpreting Nick Saban's Comments About Bo Nix

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Wednesday May 1st, baby, here we are.

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I know. It's crazy. It feels like. It feels like forever because so much has happened.

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In just a week, right? Just the last week was we were the last show before the NFL ORG draft.

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We were asking questions wondering what Sean Payton PERSON would do.

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Would he move up and select some guys that you and I liked?

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Would he move back? Well, we have our answers now, folks. And we're going to get into it. Because Tom PERSON and I, we've been keeping a low profile, I think, on social media, trying to save some of our opinions for an action-packed MHI. He is Thomas Hall. I'm Luke Patterson PERSON. We've got Scott Kennedy with us as well. Welcome to MHI, where you can catch us every Wednesday night at 6 p.m.Mountain. Tom, here we go, man. The NFL ORG draft is in the books. You said it best. It feels like so much has happened in just a week. The Broncos ORG have literally turned a new page in that new chapter.

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It's Bo Nix PERSON, baby. How are we feeling? How are we feeling about Bo Nix PERSON?

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Yeah, I mean, I feel fine about it. You know, it's like I got to wait and see, wait and see how, you know, how it turns out. I'm cautiously optimistic, but I'll tell you, I've been optimistic about the Broncos ORG for, I don't know how long. And the last several years have really let me down on my optimism. So I'm just going to just kind of sit back and watch things unfold and just see how it goes. But, you know, it was a pick that they, you know, they had to take a quarterback.It doesn't, it's really irrelevant now that they took him 12 or 22 or wherever, you know, now he's got to go out there and be the guy. And if he's not, then, man, that's going to be a bummer.

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It's going to be a lot of trouble if he is not. And I'm excited. I'm excited about Bo Nix. I was going to be really upset if the Broncos did not land a first round quarterback. They did. Now, he wasn't my first choice. Wasn't my second choice. That doesn't mean he's not going to work out. I am getting more excited by the day about Bo Nix PERSON. And speaking of Bo Nix, our good friend David Yonkin is weighing in with a $499 super to kick us off here on MHA ORG. My honest opinion on Bo Nix, don't hold back a franchise quarterback or a good regular season quarterback.Yeah, it's so tough right now, David, right, to figure out what we're getting in Bo Nix because I think we can definitively agree on one thing with Bo Nix, Broncos country, NFL ORG draft analysis. Whatever you're reading right now, we can agree that Bo Nix has Broncos country, NFL ORG draft analysis, whatever you're reading right now, we can agree that Bo Nix has a lot of snaps under his belt, Thomas PERSON. The guy is thrown for 113 touchdowns and 26 interceptions, trying to just scan through how many games he's played. I mean, this guy has been in college since 2019, splitting it between Auburn and Oregon ORG.One thing we know for sure, Bo Nix PERSON has had a lot of reps playing football. Oh, for sure.

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And I mean, hopefully that helps him, right? And, you know, my opinion is if he's not starting week one, it's going to be kind of a disappointment because it either means he's not good enough to jump in right now. Or, you know, if they start in like mid-season or week five or something, it means the Bronco season is kind of not going the way they had hoped.

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So I hope we can step in and start, you know, be the starter from day one. And I think that's the plan.

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Tom, talk to me about your anxiety level on draft night because full disclosure, we were texting right up until the pick and I'm freaking out. you're you're just steady Eddie like you usually are Tom PERSON and I'm just I'm sitting there and I'm thinking man that we can have our guy J.J. McCarthy PERSON. We can have our guy. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? We get Bo Nix. It comes out. Sean Payton PERSON's taking little victory laps, I suppose that all that interest in J.J. McCarthy PERSON was supposedly manufactured. What'd you make of the gamesmanship from George Baten, Sean Payton PERSON, in that aspect?Because it's hard to know what was ever sincere, what coulda, woulda, shoulda, right? All these calls that came up into the top five. Who were they? I don't think we'll ever fully know because, well, as you know, the season of lies, the NFL draft. I mean, that's what it's known for. What'd you make of Sean Payton PERSON, the J.J.

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McCarthy smoke? Yeah, I don't know, man. I remember back from when Shanahan PERSON was like the trickiest

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son of a gun out there when it comes to sneaking in drafting folks. But yeah, I mean, I don't know.

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Like, maybe there was some of it. I just, I find it hard to believe that other people, other teens really believe a lot of things that's being said because they all know people are trying to make up stuff. But I mean, if it, if it's true and it worked and they got the way that they got what they wanted about it out of it. Great.You know, so I mean, he got me.

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He got part of the plan, right? That's the, exactly. He got me, Tom PERSON. He got me.

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I thought he wanted JJ McCarthy. It's kind of why I started to like J.J. McCarthy, if I'm going to be honest with you. That's one part of it, right? Because I'm not an NFL ORG head coach. I'm not a play caller.I like to think I know a little bit about the game and that's probably about it. But, you know, Sean Payton PERSON's being connected with a guy. Okay, I'm going to take a little bit of a look. Can you blame some of those NFL teams like the Minnesota Vikings ORG? I don't think the Vikings ORG panicked, right? They didn't overreach.They were trying. They were making some phone calls. They got up, what, two spots ahead of Denver GPE? You know, it is what it is. I think when you look at Sean Payton PERSON, if I'm GM or head coach in Minnesota ORG,I'm thinking that's a man who knows what he wants. And if he wants him, he's going to go get him.

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So there's some gamesmanship in it.

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But it remains to be seen what was actually the truth,

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what the interest.

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I don't know, Tom PERSON.

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You tell me.

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The Vikings ORG got who they wanted, right?

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I think they got who they wanted.

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And I think it turns out Sean Payton PERSON got who he wanted.

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So whether or not Minnesota ORG had a trade-up to go get him or not, that's kind of irrelevant. But, yeah, I mean, if it's true, it's kind of a cool trickery on Sean Peyton's PERSON part.

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A draft day story. I think that will always be around and connected with JJ and Bo Nix PERSON. Now, footnotes, I don't think they're going to be, go down in Wikipedia as being highlighted in the 2024 NFL ORG draft.

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But I digress. Look who it is. It's Papa Bear PERSON coming in here. What's up, David PERSON? David PERSON. Tom PERSON, I don't know if you know,has been a superstar on the huddle up pod. I was watching the other day. And I saw David PERSON as a special guest on the huddle up pod.

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And David PERSON did fantastic, man. It was great to hear your opinions, as always, giving us some love. Good evening, Luke, Tom, and Deacon Scott PERSON. It seems like David's happy with the Bo Nix PERSON pick. And I like, I was trying to read real quick there. Bo PERSON knows.Hashtag Bo PERSON knows. I was trying to think of some good creative nicknames for Bo Nix PERSON, right? And there's a few out there. I can't say on the airwaves here that are pretty funny, right? Nick Foles PERSON, a la Nick Foles. But I don't know, man.I'm kind of leaning into this Oregon ORG duck thing. Some mighty ducks taught like quack, quack. I don't know. You know, you get his teammate in Franklin PERSON here. I'm leaning into the mallard and the duck thing right now.

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Yeah.

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Go old school like Beau Cephas or something, you know, like something from the olden days.

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Oh, there's our guy, Michael Brinkio PERSON.

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Good evening, Luke and Thomas on the Mile High Insiders and Go Broncos ORG.

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The Colorado mayor approved the holiday for Randy Gratashar PERSON.

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I don't know if you got to see this, Tom, but Randy Gratashar PERSON is getting his flowers

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officially from the city of Denver on Friday, I believe, if my math adds up with it being May

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1st today.

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Yeah, I mean, that's great.

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I mean, it's great for rain. I mean, it's been so long. It's like finally it happened. He's finally in the Hall of Fame ORG. So it's celebrated, you know, whether or not it's a holiday or not. I mean, well, and it's May 3rd.

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So it's May 3rd, obviously, because that's 5.3, right?

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To represent Randy Gratashar PERSON. But you know what, man? Like, it's about damn time that we give Randy Gratashar's PERSON flowers. He hasn't been getting them for a long time. So take your victory lap, Randy PERSON. You sure is hell deserve it.

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He's been with us since the beginning since the show was on Saturday nights. And Tom, I know you really appreciate all of Stu PERSON's insight. Hi, all. Let's go Broncos ORG. And Stu PERSON, I am right there with you. I'm excited.I feel like a lot of this fan base is excited. Now, people have the right to reserve judgment and to have their opinions. And if you're not happy with the Bo Nix PERSON pick, that's okay. I'd say give him a chance. Let's try to be fair, right? Even some of these quarterbacks that weren't my favorite.Like, gee, I don't know, Tom, Bo Nix PERSON.

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I'm excited for. This is something new.

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It's not crazy about the jerseys, right? But I'm still leaning into this. This is a new chapter in almost every way for the Denver Broncos ORG. You've got new owners, what, they're coming into their third season, your head coach and Sean Payton's coming into year number two. You think you have a franchise quarterback.At least we're going to explore that for right now. New uniforms. You've got stadium renovations. I mean, what's not to be excited about right now? It feels like the possibilities are redless.

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Yeah, and that's what I said. The NFL ORG draft does so many things great, but the one thing that it does is it always gives teams fans hope, right? They think they've got a great draft, it's going to turn it around. And, you know, sometimes those hopes go crashing and burning right away. Sometimes they're realized. So you never know. So this is the, this is the time of hope right now.Got a quarterback. Actually, I think it's a fairly decent draft in all and all, really, for what they had to work with. They got some good value. So, you know, a couple of those guys, you know, really pop and turn out to be good players, then, you know, all that hope is going to be realized. So it's a fun time. Bingo. And

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Stu PERSON knows best. I mean, Stu worked in airlines forever and ever. I'm still working in the airlines if I'm not mistaken. So, Stu, I think it's fair to say, Broncos ORG country, we're right there with you. We're flying high, baby. We're excited. It's, man, it's just a new chapter. This is, this is what I'm here for. I mean, I'm excited. I was really pleased with Bo Nix's introductory press conference. He certainly said all the right things. I didn't get the sense that he was fake, right? He didn't. He gave some nice PR answers and he was obviouslycoached up last minute by Patrick Smyth PERSON. One of the best in the league, by the way. But I'm excited for Bo Nix PERSON. I'm excited for the rest of this draft class. We haven't even gotten into that yet. But it's a fast and the furious episode of MHA 10 minutes in. And look at our friend Cody Dubbs coming in, man, always support an MHA, generous $5 super. I'm thinking, yeah, we've got Sean Payton to teach, but you know who else can teach Bo and Troy? That would be a top five corner, PS2. That's what I'm excited about. Cody, you're on to something right here.And let's leave this up for just a second. Tom, to get Sean Payton's franchise quarterback, Cody's exactly right. It didn't cost him anything. Sean and George, steady eddy, right? I was saying Sean PERSON's going to move up.

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He's never moved back.

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I thought so, too.

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He didn't move up, but you know what? He still didn't move back. He did not have to give up PS2 PRODUCT. Tom PERSON, you were right. You said Pat Sertan would still be a Bronco, I believe. Last we talked in Wednesday, I thought he was gone.I thought that last Wednesday might be his full day DATE. Last full day is a Bronco, but Cody's exactly right. Sean Payton's there to teach Boe Nix PERSON. We've got one of Bo's favorite weapons and Troy coming over from Oregon, Troy Franklin, obviously. But man, PS2 PRODUCT is still on this roster. You still have a lockdown corner that is going to be competing against the Bo Nix PERSON in practice. What's training camp going to look like with a PS2 PRODUCT out there and a rookie quarterback in Bo Nix? Who does PS2 match up against?Cortland Sutton's still going to be on the roster. Are you going to be on a Troy ORG? What are we going to be looking at? It excites me because I think what we're looking at is competition. Yeah, for sure, for sure. And it's funny that he's talking about Sean teaching and PS2 PRODUCT teaching. I got to go back to it because, you know, I'm still scratching my head about theZach Wilson PERSON trade. It's a waste of space now. Zach Wilson PERSON does not need to be on this roster. They need to go out and get a vet QB backup type guy who can help mentor this young quarterback. Rookie quarterback.They don't need Stidim and Zach Wilson PERSON trying to fight for the starting job.

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Go, you know, again, I just like, I know what didn't cost very much.

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He's terrible. He's not going to be able to mentor anybody. Get rid of him and get somebody else because the future is Bo Nix, not Zach Wilson PERSON. Future is Bo Nix PERSON. Even if that means it's a year away instead of him has to be the guy, go get somebody that can actually help this rookie learn the NFL ORG ins and outs.

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Speaking of Zach Wilson, news of the day here in Broncos ORG country, shocker, the Denver

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Broncos are declining the fifth year option on recently acquired quarterback Zach Wilson PERSON.

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You can read about that over my high huddle.com. Now, the option would have paid Zach roughly $22 million for the 2025 season and in his final year of his contract. I get it, Tom PERSON. It's a head-scratching move. It didn't cost a lot.I'm not upset about it. I wonder what it's going to look like. It's a really young quarterback room. You're right.

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And I don't know how you forget about Gucci-Dinucci, as my guy, DBA says on Saturday night with Ron White PERSON. I'll never forget that. I told him I was stealing it. But I'm going to give some credit where credit is due. Man, you're right. Who has the longest tooth in that room?

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Is it Jared Stim, Bend Inouche PERSON? Right. I mean, it's not the elder statesman at this point.

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I'm like, you've got like a couple years of experience. And I know the NFL ORG experience is vastly different

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than college experience, Tom PERSON. I know this and this will sound ridiculous.

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But if you look at like total minutes played of the game of football,

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college and NFL ORG,

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I think Bo Nix PERSON has can circle lap, you know, Jared Stidham PERSON right now. But it's interesting what this quarterback room looks like right now. You would think that Sean Payton PERSON would want a veteran. But man, he's going to try to breathe some competition in that room, I think. I think Danucci PERSON's obviously on the outs right now.I think Zach Wilson has something Sean Payton PERSON likes. Otherwise, he wouldn't have just got him here. Sean Payton PERSON is not an arbitrary guy. He's a lot of things. Arbitrar is not one of them. Phil McLaughlin coming in. What's up, Phil? Good to see you. Good evening, Thomas Luke PERSON and Deacon Scott PERSON. Based on free agency and the draft, what grade would you give out Denver? Hashtag Buckham, MH for life, and Broncos for life. Tom, Phil PERSON's getting the best of me right here, and he's trying to be Arnery, and I love Phil PERSON for doing it because I had tweeted out there that I've just disgustedwith NFL ORG draft grades, free agency grade. I am. I don't understand it. Old man, get off my lawn moment right here, full disclosure. I lean into it. But I've written articles on it. I've tried to grade. We don't know until two to three seasons specifically with the NFL ORG draft free agency. We might have a better idea with some of these guys who should be plug and play. That's assuming everybody's healthy. That's assuming everyone makes the team. That's assuming a lot.Yeah.

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I don't like to give grades out either. From the offseason acquisitions, let's step away from the draft for a second. Because we don't really know what they have until they have in the NFL ORG field, right?

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We don't know.

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I think they did a good job of getting decent starters, but they have until they have in the NFL ORG field right we don't know I think they did a good job of getting decent starters but they have not gotten any better in the like elite player category so for to me that's just you know they did a good job of filling some some holes you got some quality starters some some decent role players but they're missing that impact player that they really need. They've got one.They need a couple more to really to really step up to that next level. So that's when you go to the draft and you wonder, okay, who of these draftees are going to be that player? You hope it's Bo Nix PERSON.

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I mean, it has to be. If it's not Bo Nix PERSON, then you can look back at this draft as a, you know, mediocre draft, even if some of these other guys pop.

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But so, yeah, but the thing is, I can't tell you. I mean, their free agent, I would give them a C for their free agent acquisitions. I think they did okay fill in some holes, but, you know, they didn't, they didn't move the needle that much. I don't think, you know, like I like that they picked up Franklin Myers PERSON, but I don't think he's like a huge upgrade over what they had before, maybe a slide upgrade than, you know,over Mike Purcell PERSON or something like that. But, you know, he's not like, he's not what we thought Zach Allen PERSON was going to be, which, you know, stuff like that. So I'm hoping that we go back and look at the draft and say, this is the draft that changed the fortunes of the Broncos ORG. That's what I'm hoping for.

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And if that's the case,

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then it's an A offseason. It really is. Now, that would be great. I thought it was pretty balanced early on, right? You go quarterback in round one and then you get Jonah Ellis. Tom PERSON, how about that, right?I know legends. Go look up some Legends ORG podcast. You never know who stopped by the pod with Thomas PERSON. But I didn't get to watch his dad play. I think I was a little too young. I do understand his father was a team chaplain in

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2015. Yeah, and Luther Ellis PERSON, but I mean, pass rusher. That that's a need, a big need. I mean, we need a Jonah Ellis in round three to come in here and start playing now. Jonathan Cooper PERSON, Baron Browning PERSON, the talk, the clock. The clock is on and it's moving, and you either need to start producing and stay healthy or you're going to get gone.

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I thought it was fairly, it's offensive heavy draft, right? When you look at it with Troy Franklin, you look at it with the running back out of Notre Dame, Audrick PERSON, even a wide receiver, Vellie, and then the center from South Carolina. That's what you're going to get when you have Sean Payton PERSON, who's the offensive play caller. Bo Nix PERSON, they have to hit on Bo Nix. It won't just be, eh, that's okay. No, you didn't trade anything to get Bo Nix, but you had the number 12, a premium pick in the first round,top 15 pick. If you don't hit on Bo Nix, it will be the end of Sean Payton PERSON. Now, Nick Kendall said something I thought was really, really interesting over on X. At Nick Kendall, MHHH everybody. He said that he foreshadowed, I don't want to quote it, but he said, man, Bo Nix and Sean Payton PERSON, that's a legacy type conversation. And that's a legacy type move.And I absolutely co-signed that and 100% agree. Sean Payton's putting a lot into Bo Nix PERSON, specifically his name and his fingerprints. Yeah, absolutely. And like you said earlier, specifically his name and his fingerprints. Yeah, absolutely.

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And like you said earlier, this is, this is his, this is tied to him. If Bo Nix flops, you're not going to see Sean Payton PERSON in a bronc on the Bronx GPE sideline much longer.

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It's not George's fault.

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If Bo Nix PERSON doesn't work, it's what you're playing?

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No, it's absolutely not.

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But I still think it's got to be Bo Nix and Jonah Ellis.

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Those two have to step up and be those elite players at the Broncos ORG have been.

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We might just be having a quick internet delay with Tom PERSON.

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We'll get Tom PERSON back into the chat.

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But before we do, Papa Bear PERSON coming back in here,

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Bo Nix PERSON is a plug and play quarterback. Hashtag Buckham PERSON. Plug and play, that's got to be the vision for Sean Peyton and Tom was exactly right if if week one comes around and Bo Nix PERSON isn't starting how do you sell that to the fan base how do you sell a Jarrett Stidham PERSON or a Zach Wilson can we foresee a future on this team where Zach Wilson starts before Jarrett Stidham and Bo Nix PERSON.If that's the case, injuries have happened or something has gone severely wrong. Now, I'm not super excited about the quarterback room right now either, David PERSON. I'm not. Bo Nix PERSON is leading that charge. Now, I'm a little curious about Zach Wilson PERSON, but it's kicking the can down the road, so to speak.I think Zach Wilson PERSON is a nice curveball in that room, if you will. He does have some talent. It's all about what's upstairs, your internal processor, how hard a worker are you? Are you a professional? That has really hindered his ability to have success in New York GPE. I would say more than his performance.David Yonkin PERSON coming back in. Appreciate you, David PERSON. David's going to give the Broncos an A-plus to Peyton PERSON and Peyton, George Peyton and Sean Peyton PERSON, for not giving up the farm for a quarterback. That's an outstanding comment, David PERSON,because as you guys all know, I was getting pretty desperate, right, with this quarterback carousel. I'm sick of it, Broncos ORG country. You're sick of it. The Denver Broncos have never identified and drafted a franchisequarterback. Think about that for just a second. All the greats that have come in, the two Super Bowl winning quarterbacks and John L.A. and Peyton Manning PERSON, we all know the stories. They weren't drafted here. Can we finally see a change in the future, a changing of the guard in Bo Nix PERSON? Is Bo Nix it? Is Bo Nix what we've been waiting for since the 60s for a franchise quarterback with the Broncos ORG? We hope so. We're excited about it. There's a lot of flash in the pan right now, and my optimism's just growing every day, just like my curiosity for Bo Nix PERSON. So I think that's a fairtake and a fair opinion. David Yonkin PERSON coming back in. Oh, David PERSON, right there. Peyton PERSON and Peyton getting the A plus. I love it. Michael Renquillo PERSON coming in. Drafting a tackle,an offensive tackle is still a problem for the Broncos in the NFL ORG draft. Another position of need that we've mentioned a lot on this show. I hear it a lot at Broncos ORG for breakfast too. Offensive tackle, what are we, what are we doing to supplement that? Garrett Bowles PERSON isn't getting any younger. Mike McGlinchy PERSON has had issues with false starts, even some holding penalties there.Very underwhelming performance from a Mike McGlinchie in year one. And the center position, Lloyd Cushin, I mean, there's a lot of holes to fix on this Broncos ORG offense. It's more than just the center. And speaking of the center, Alex Forsyth PERSON, right,all these ducks on this team, Alex Forsyth PERSON, Bo Nix PERSON, Franklin PERSON, it's just, you're right,Mike, drafting an offensive tackle is still a problem, that right tackle position. We thought it was figured out automatically, we being a lot of us in Broncos ORG country. I wasn't sold on the Mike McGlenshy PERSON contract.I wasn't sold on him playing in San Francisco GPE. Highest paid offensive tackle in Broncos ORG history. Think about that for a second. Michael's saying the Broncos ORG have a tough time finding him. You're right. It's been a long time since the Denver Broncos have found Orion Clayty PERSON.Right. And here we are. We're still looking. Now, Garrett Bulls PERSON is a serviceable left tackle. He's a good starter. He draws interest from multiple NFL teams around the trade deadline every year.I know that for a fact. He's not necessarily a piece that we could just give away. So ultimately, I think that's a really good take. It's fair that Sean Payton drafted a quarterback at number 12 without giving up the farm. GLP coming in, hot, a 499 super. What's up Thomas Lugan? Scott PERSON. I am excited for this season. It's a new start. And that's just it. It's a new start. Bo Nix PERSON is leading the charge. I think rookie minicamp, mandatory rookie minicamp is rightaround the corner and that's when you're going to see some of these guys coming in and first look really down there at the facility without a suit and tie. Now, I did think Bo Nix PERSON hit a home run out of his press conference. He obviously mentioned the Denver Nuggets ORG. He mentioned the Colorado Avalanche and the success that these two playoff teams are having right now. But you know what? I want to see where I want to see Bo Nix PERSON before all that.And as we welcome Thomas back in, Tom, you know where I want to see Bo Nix PERSON before rookie minicamp? I'm going to tell you right now. Saturday night, the Denver Nuggets host the Minnesota Timberwolves and ball arena here in Denver, Colorado GPE. What better way to introduce your new franchise first round rookie quarterback to Broncos country than at the Nuggets game sitting courtside with both the sheriff Peyton Manning PERSON, who's been at every Denver GPE home game thus far in the playoffs. And oh, I don't know, Sean Payton PERSON, the guy who picked you.That's how I want to see Bo Nix PERSON. There could be no better introduction. And I'd get goosebumps talking about it right now, man.

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Yeah, I think it would be a great introduction. I think, yeah, I'm with you, 100%. You know, get him out there, make him the face of the Broncos ORG and make him live up to that, to that lofty expectation right off. Well, and you've got to sell jerseys too. And I know Broncos country make him live up to that to that lofty expectation right off well and you got

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to sell jerseys too and i know broncos country's wondering about that tom and carl carl PERSON had a really good response to this i saw on x at carl dunler PERSON m h h h i believe um someone was asking when are we going to know the rookie jerseys when are we going to know the jersey numbers because everybody knows that bow nicks war number 10 coming out of Oregon and that number 10 was reassigned or whatever whatever you want to call it to zach wilson just days before the NFL draft so are we going to see beau and zach exchanging some dollars for a number uh maybe i mean but broncos country they're excited for bow nicks i know a ton of the oregon ducksfaithful are coming over to Broncos ORG country because they love themselves some Bo Nix. They want to know what jersey is Nick PERSON's going to wear. And if you're the Walton Pender ORG ownership group, it's time to start selling those jerseys, baby. You just put new jerseys out there. You've got Tim Patrick demoing them, Quinn Miners, PS2 PRODUCT. All those guys are fine athletes. Nothing sells jerseys better than a franchise quarterback. Absolutely.

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And if Zach Wilson's like not willing to just give up number 10, then just get rid of them. Got them.

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I can't. All right, whatever.

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Zach, well, it was nice having you here at the Broncos for a full week, but you're an ass and you're not going to give bow number 10.

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So we're going to catch you.

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I absolutely love it.

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DTR coming in here with a $5 super.

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Sean Peyton PERSON would have no issue skipping on a quarterback if he thought there wasn't a good one available. Bo Nix PERSON deserves respect. Nix for six. There it is. Bo PERSON knows MHH for life. Nix for six.DTR PERSON, that's the best one I've heard. I like catchy little rhymes, right? We're all writers here at MHHH ORG. I like a little alliteration if we can get that in there. And there are some really funny and appropriate ones. We can't just start throwing out there. But I'll push back just a little, DTR PERSON, just a little. I would say that Bo Nix deserves a chance. Bo Nix needs to earn Broncos ORG' country's respect. And he talked about it.I like hearing that. Unlike Caleb Williams, who's just, it's everybody's job to get on my page. And I keep receipts. Bo Nix PERSON is coming out here. And Bo Nix PERSON is saying, I want to help the team any way that I can. I need to compete.I need to earn these starting reps. I need to start preparing in the playbook. He's looking at these short-term goals before he can get to the long-term. It makes me think he's got his head on the right way. Yeah, he seems to. I mean, he seems

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polished, seasoned. Hopefully that translates to not being rattled in the NFL ORG game. You know, doesn't have to, you don't have to worry about him like folding right away. So let's hope that translates to a franchise quarterback. But like I said, we got to, we got to see him play a little bit of NFL ORG football before we annoy any of these.

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So check this out real quick, Cody. Scott PERSON's in my ear right now. And he's saying, Knicks for six is roughly 30 years old DATE. Remember, Scott was at Auburn ORG when Bo Nix's dad was balling out of control at Auburn. And that's interesting. Scott PERSON,I didn't know that. That's pretty damn cool. Nix for six is already a thing. Maybe here's the wishful thinking that we get lots of sixes with Bo PERSON. That's pretty neat, Scott PERSON.I appreciate you sharing that, man. At Auburn ORG in the glory days. And his dad, obviously, an accomplished quarterback in the SEC at Auburn. Coach high school football, I believe. Coach Bo PERSON won multiple championships, I believe. Very well respected. And it's cool when you see these guys in their families on draft day, too, man. I absolutely love it. Cody Dubbs coming back around. Thank you, Cody. Really, really appreciate your generosity tonight. I'm starting to think that we need a true captain on the defense. A horrible Miami game that didn't have Josie Jule and Simmons PERSON in it. Now we've got toget a vet in here. Cody, you're on to something. Who's the leader of this defense? It can't be your cornerback. I love Pat Sertan PERSON. I love them. We all love them, right? Some of us more so than others, like the guys who wanted him here and not Justin Fields PERSON. But I digress, Tom PERSON.

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It's, you can't have your cornerback be your Ray Lewis PERSON.

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You can't have your cornerback be your Chris Jones PERSON. I mean, you've got to have a cornerstone piece. I don't see it from an Alexander Singleton PERSON. I'm sorry. I don't. I don't see it.What? What are we going to do? We've got three Texas GPE Longhorns back there. The days of the safety and the cornerback being the captains of the defense, man, those have to be done. I need linebackers.I need D. linemen. Who the hell are they? Keep it going here, Cody. Sorry about that, bud. But now, I'm with you, man. Those have to be done. I need linebackers. I need D. linemen. Who the hell are they? Keep it going here, Cody. Sorry about that, bud. But now I'm, I'm with you, dude. It's,

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you have to figure out a defensive starter. You have to figure out a defensive captain. And who's willing to go toe to toe with Pastor Tan or Patrick Mahomes PERSON? Pastor Tan's busy covering Travis Kelsey these days, right? Who's going to get after Pat Mahomes PERSON? Who's going to show him some attitude? Justin Simmons PERSON walking out the door, still a free agent, took that captain with him. I can't off the top of my head say, so-and-so is going to come in and be a leader.

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So-and-so is going to come in and earn that captain. I mean, Vance Joseph's PERSON defense makes me worried. I lose sleep at night because of Vance Joseph. Yeah, and that's the problem.

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You know, there's nobody, like I said, there's nobody that's elite enough in those positions where you want a leader that is going to step up at this point. I don't see one. I mean, Drew Sanders PERSON, you know, he's bouncing between edge and an inside linebacker. I mean, like you said, Alex Singleton PERSON doesn't really fit the bill.Justin Simmons PERSON is gone. I mean, you would hope Zach Allen PERSON would step up. You know, he needs to. It's his, he's in his prime. He needs to step up his play and his leadership.You would hope Zach Allen would be one. And you would hope they could find some enforcer type, like, you know, mentality at least, not necessarily, you know, with the, uh, the hitting that they get flagged for, but the mentality type, you know, in the linebacker crew or the safety crew that could step up. But it's, you know, it's a new,it's a new kind of era. There's people have got to step up. And I don't know who that'll be

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right now. We are talking in the 2024 NFL draft. Thomas Hall PERSON and I are reacting to it here on these airwaves. And Dennis, it's all about quarterback, right? Talking about Bo Nixon PERSON the first round. We were wondering, would they pick up a later round quarterback? No, Dennis PERSON is on to something here. Can Matacha beat out Wilson, Stidham, or Danucci PERSON? And the young guy I've kept my eye on from afar, John Matacha out of the Colorado School of Minds ORG. And for those of you that don't know, the Colorado GPE School of Minds is an engineering school in Golden, Colorado.Division two, if I'm not mistaken, but this is the top quarterback, top Division II ORG passer. He was invited to Broncos ORG workouts, Broncos mini camp, what have you. I like it because I've been on this show saying that Sean Payton PERSON needs to scour the earth for this franchise quarterback, upgrading the position. He needs to look under every rock and stone. He is quite literally doing that.Tom, I can't make fun of him too much for Zach Wilson PERSON because you're telling me that you're going to draft the first round quarterback at 12. You're going to get a former number two overall pick in Zach Wilson PERSON via a trade. And then you're inviting local top two division quarterback, John Matacha from Colorado School of Minds ORG out. I mean, call Sean Payton PERSON what you want. I think we could say he's been thorough at least in the quarterback search.He's given tons of different guys with tons of different styles, a lot of opportunity. Yeah.

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And to answer your question, I think he could beat out Danuchio Wilson PERSON.

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I mean, I don't care for, I don't think either one of them are, you know, around for the

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long haul.

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So, I mean, if he really impresses, sure. I don't think he has enough experience. I think that probably if they like him, then probably try and do a practice squad thing

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and get him some more, you know, some more reps. But I mean, like I said, those three quarterbacks, they don't move the needle for me in any way, not as a veteran backup, not as a starter, anything. So, you know, whatever they can find that looks like they're more promising than I'm for, I'm for it.

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Well, he was one of three players invited to minicamp that also included a Fresno State long snapper and then an Oregon ORG kicker as another duck quack, quack, right, Oregon kicker Camden Lewis PERSON as well. No, it's interesting. He leaves Division 2 with a 172.4 quarterback rating. You can go read about that over Mahawahuddle.com right now, which is an NCAA ORG record.Now, we're talking about trying to curve the learning curve, just a tad between Oregon go read about that over Mahwahuddle.com right now, which is an NCAA ORG record now. We're talking about trying to curve the learning curve, just a tad between Oregon and the NFL ORG. Imagine Colorado School of Mines and the NFL ORG,

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Division II ORG football.

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I'm not saying it can't be done,

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but it might be a little tricky.

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I like that the Broncos ORG are giving him a shot. Why the hell not? And Zibo PERSON coming in here. What's up, Zeeibo, a $10 super. Thank you so much for joining Scott, Tom, and I here on MHA ORG. I may not have the know-how of the NFL football, but as long-time Bronco fan from a pure reputation and legacy perspective, Peyton PERSON will not

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allow Nix or this year's offensive hall to fail. Hashtag MHA ORG for a lot. Zibo, Colin PERSON is shot. I absolutely love it. Sean Payton will not allow Bo Nix or this year's offensive hall to fail. Zibo, you're on to something because we all certainly had some of our question marks with some draft picks last year.Right. And then you get a special team's ace, a pro bowler, in MIMS. because we all certainly had some of our question marks with some draft picks last year, right? And then you get a special team's ace, a pro bowler in MIMS ORG. Marvin PERSON, who saw that coming? Not me. Not me. I was upset about that pick, Tom, but Marvin Mims PERSON did very well in a rookie campaign, right?We weren't expecting much out of him. Sean PERSON was expecting something out of him. Took him with a premium pick. I think Zibo PERSON's on to something. You got to roll with Sean PERSON, you got to lean into it for a little bit here and trust, right?Chad likes to say this to Broncos Country too. I saw it at Chad Jensen today on X. You have to trust just for a little while. I know, I know, I know. You don't like Sean Payton PERSON. That's okay.We can defer on that. Tom, you have question marks about Sean Payton PERSON. I like Sean Payton PERSON. I question why the hell band Hans Joseph PERSON is still here. We need to be patient with these players, regardless of what we think of the head coach.

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Yeah, for sure, for sure. And he's going to do everything he can. I mean, his reputation, like you said, his winning, it's all, whether he stays in the orange and blue, all kind of resides now on Bo Nix PERSON. And hopefully Bo Nix PERSON has what it takes to do it. You can only force so much to happen on these players.If they don't have the willpower, they just can't get it, then they're going to fail on their own.

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But I totally agree with that.

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I mean, this is the draft that Sean Peyton PERSON is the rest of his career on, really.

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It is.

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Well, and Zibo, man, I appreciate Australia GPE?

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Coming in from Australia from down under, the Broncos ORG country, man.

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You guys represent.

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We got Broncos country excited for Bo Nix out there in Australia GPE, man. I absolutely love it. It's cool when you see orange and blue flying all over the world. And I'm not talking about the Chicago bear stuff, even the Miami Dolphin ORG. They're cute little gimmicks. Everybody knows that orange and blue belongs to the Denver Broncos. I think Zbo PERSON's on to something there, man.

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You have to lean into this. We got to lean into it. Not every pick was my favorite either, and we're still reacting to it, right? We're talking about a new edge, new wide receiver, new corner, new running back, another new wide out, a center. We haven't even got to the undrafted guys yet, Tom PERSON. I mean, there could be so many diamonds in the rough, and we should know that here inBroncos ORG country. Look at some of these pro football hall of famers. And Tom PERSON, I got a bone to pick with you. I don't know what's going on. Mike Shanahan PERSON and your buddies in the pro football hall of fame and they're voting. I did see your tweet today.

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And you were referencing your buddy Gill and saying, all right, man, I'm starting to get a little worried. I've been telling you to be worried for six months, man.

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Mike Shanahan PERSON doesn't get any respect from your buddies who are the voters of the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I got problems with them, Tom PERSON.

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Problems.

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Well, you know, it's funny.

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I was just kind of like he's going to be in the next two or three years.

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I was kind of like, I'm going to focus on other people and try and promote other people more because I just, in my back

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of my mind, I'm like, my chance is going to get in. But, you know, it should. Randy Radishar PERSON didn't get in for 30 some years. You know, it's like, okay, you're right. Like, we need to make sure. We got to make the extra effort for all these guys that we really truly want in the Hall of Fame that deserve to be in the Hall of Fame ORG, make the extra effort to get them in. Whatever that takes, you know, and I only do what I can. You know, my part, I try to do my part and push for it.But yeah, so I'm going to be pushing my chain of hand a lot more than I had been before for sure.

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Yeah, and head on over to at Thomas Hall, NFL ORG over on X. Tom PERSON runs a nonprofit-profit campaign. Profits all go, right? No profit. All the money and donations go to charity. And do it for Tom Nalen PERSON.Mark Schlerert's wearing Thomas Hall PERSON hoodies right now that say, let's get Tom Nailen to the Hall of Fame ORG. I mean, you never know who's going to be wearing one of these hoodies. Check it out over at Thomas Hall NFL ORG. Phil McLaughlin PERSON coming in here. Guys, who is the one player that will probably be traded on the edge?Cooper, Allen, Browning, Benito, Oren Coombe PERSON. I don't know about traded, Phil PERSON, but released. There are going to be some releases and it's going to be tough. And I'm looking at Jonathan Cooper PERSON right away, man. And he's one of my favorite players coming out of that draft, scout him in the senior bowl, same with Baron Browning and Quinn Miners PERSON.But Quinn Miners PERSON is a solidified starter. Baron Browning PERSON, we're hoping he could come back from his injury. He's a very good impact player when he's in there, would still like to see him mature. Jonathan Cooper PERSON has left a lot for me to be desired. Nick Benito certainly had a much better sophomore season in the NFL than he did his rookie year. But I don't know about trade, Phil PERSON.I really don't. Edge is pretty deep here in the NFL ORG and a lot of undrafted guys, a lot of drafted guys at the edge position, too. It makes me feel like the Broncos are probably going to put one of these guys on waivers. Yeah.

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Well, I don't think you're going to get anything from Incom ORG. If you want to put Benito PERSON up for trade, you could probably get something for him of value. But I think he's your guy that you still have faith in to continue to take that next step. He's got a lot of athleticism. He put the work in. To me, Cooper and Browning are the two guys that if you want to move somebody, you may be able to get something in trade, possibly for Cooper, possibly for Browning PERSON, only because I likeBrown Brownie. He's got injury history. You know, you can't really rely on him. And I think Cooper, you know, great story. You know, I really love his story. I think he's a try hard guy, but he just doesn't have that really something extra that's going to make a huge difference on the edge.

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I think he's a solid starter. He'd be a great rotational guy. If you had, if you had like a really great edge, he'd be a good one coming off to relieve him.

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But you have to upgrade that starting room. You just have to. So if you move somebody, you can only get, I think you really can only get something for Benito PERSON of value, but you're not,

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but you're not going to try. I don't think they're going to try to trade him. So it's,

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it's a good way of looking at it, Phil PERSON, because, right, you try to get capital wherever you can.

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And maybe you make some phone calls before you release them, right?

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But it's, you kick the tires on some stuff.

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I would agree that I think Cooper's on the outside looking in, same within Coombe PERSON. But no, Baron Browning, my frustrations with Baron Browning have nothing to do with Baron Browning and everything to do with the Denver Broncos and George Peyton PERSON. Baron Browning PERSON, when I scouted him, I scouted him as an inside linebacker and I liked him a lot. Yes, he can rush the passer. It doesn't mean just because a player can rush the passer, they should be converted from linebacker to edge. The Broncos have done this the last 10 years and it hasn't worked out for him, not once, all right?It drives me crazy because Browning had exact thing he had college with Ohio State ORG. You're an edge. No, you're an inside linebacker. No, you're hurt. No, you're in rehab. I mean, it's just a vicious cycle right now, and it does the player no favors.It does George Payton PERSON, who had to make that pick no favors. And he ultimately co-signed moving him to edge. Now, what are they going to do with Drew Sanders PERSON? Is he a full-time edge? We're not even going to give him another look at the outside liebacker. I mean, these are things that the Broncos ORG need to really hone in on.And dare I say, I don't trust Vance Joseph to make that call. Ben Joseph, what the hell does Vance Joseph know about pass rushers? Edge rushers.

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I mean, he is a secondary coach. The secondary guys love him. He knows a ton about the secondary. But give me a break when it comes to Vance Joseph and trying to get me to buy into the BS and the garbage that is Vance Joseph knows how to get to the quarterback like Pat Mahomes PERSON. Well, you know, and he's squandered a lot of these great, you know, these supposedly great athletes who that can play, you know, versatile across the board, he squandered them all that he's ever used, in my opinion. But the thing with Baron Browning PERSON, too, is people, you know, he was on his way to being a prettygood inside linebacker. And I think that probably would have prolonged his career and maybe cut down the injuries a little bit. Because as an edge, he's going against, you know, 330 pound tackle, almost every time he's rushing the passer. When you're a linebacker, you can be out in space a lot more, right?

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Maybe it wasn't a great idea to move him,

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even though he had a pretty good impact, you know, when they did, he looked like he was going to be a great edge, but kept getting hurt. Maybe that wasn't the best decision for the team. That's my only thought on that.

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Yeah, it's time will tell, right? And we're fixing to find out. Cody Debs PERSON circling back around. Man, Cody, you've been so active. Thank you so much. Can Allen PERSON do the adjustments? Josie PERSON got guys in place in the defense and then they acted like they didn't know what the hell was going on in the Miami game. Cody, again, man, good point. Josie Jewell PERSON, he wasn't every some player's favorites, some people's favorites, right? If you're Iowa Hawkeye fan, Nick Kendall, uh, but no, a very good player, Josie Jewel PERSON, very respectable. I hope he does well in Carolina reunited with Ezra. Ezer O evero PERSON. That's a big hole on the defense. I fully admitthat. Josie Jewel knew his assignment. Now, uh, it's not Josie Jewel's PERSON fault that he's the speed that he is, but he was prepared. He was usually pretty locked into the defense and was an effective communicator when he needed to be. I don't know who, who takes that hat and runs with it. It's,

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it's a good point from Cody here. Josie Jewel PERSON, big hole. It's going to be singleton right away,

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most likely he's going to be the one wearing the green dot. He's going to be one making the calls because he's got the most experience.

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He's comfortable.

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I mean, they're looking for another inside linebacker, whether it be Drew Sanders PERSON or somebody else.

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So he's going to have to ease into it and take on that responsibility down the road. But I think it's Singleton PERSON right away.

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Yeah, I like Josie Jewel PERSON. You know, he's a good instinctual player, but he just, he left a little bit to be desired. He just quite wasn't quick enough for my liking in a lot of situations. So, you know, they need to upgrade that, they need to upgrade that position. Actually, both, in my opinion.

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Alex Singleton PERSON makes a lot of tackles. Doesn't make a lot of impact plays from that position.

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So I think both, both inside linebackers need to be upgraded, you know, the next couple of years.

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They almost are like kind of parallel of each other too, right? It's not just because they're the white linebackers, but they're games. Like Alex PERSON is a lot quicker, but they rely on, I think,mental preparation and just, um, matchups, exploiting matchups via preparation. I think that's, at the end of the day,what they're going to be known for. And when we look back on an Alex Singleton on a Josie Jewel PERSON, they will have had successful NFL ORG careers. Don't get me wrong. Zibo PERSON coming back in here, man. Really, really appreciate all the love from Australia GPE.I believe that the plan was fixed special teams in 20203, done, offense in 2024, in progress, and then defense in 2025. I think that Vance Joseph is done after this year, and Jim Leonard PERSON steps in. What are your thoughts? Hashtag Nix 4-6. Wow, Zibo PERSON, there's a lot there, man.Let's start to unpack it. I'll get to the special team stuff, right? Because that's a little tough. And nobody really talks about special teams a whole lot until they suck, which the Broncos ORG have sucked at special teams for a long time. Last year they got a lot better.I think you saw a lot more fundamentals, a good coaching from Sean Payton PERSON and the rest of the Broncos ORG coaching staff. But Jim Leonard PERSON, man. Jim Leonard is currently on staff as the Denver Broncos ORG defensive backs coach slash passing game coordinator, a former Denver Bronco out of 2012. Tom PERSON, we've talked about this briefly.Broncos countries keep an eye on Jim Leonard PERSON. What do they know about Jim Leonard PERSON that I don't know? Yeah, I don't know.

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It's funny. You know, it's funny that he says fix special teams because remember, I was telling you all after the draft last year, I was like, this draft was mostly about special teams. And like, oh, no, no, no. I was like, yeah. I felt, I feel vindicated from Zee PERSON.Here here. But, yeah, I mean, Jim, Jim Leonard's PERSON up-and-coming coach, right? There's, you know, there's some familiarity with him. But I think a lot of it has to do with his, I mean, Jim, Jim Leonard's PERSON up-and-coming coach, right? There's, you know, there's some familiarity with him. But I think a lot of it has to do with his, you know, what he did in college. He had a really successful defensive performances from his defenses in college, from what I understand. So I think they're thinking for the future because nobody thinks Vance Joseph is around long haul.Nobody, I mean mean you and i keep like why is he even here you know so it's one of those things where you're looking at the next step but you know it's funny because if it happens next year i don't know if jim leonard gets the role i think it's somebody that sean peyton is familiar with that they step in that you know they bring the bring bringing the band back together, so to speak. But I do, I do believe Jim Leonard PERSON is, whether he works out or not,I think teams believe he will and he's going to be fast-tracked to a defensive coordinator

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position. No, you think Sean Payton PERSON would bring in a guy of his own, a guy that he likes,

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a guy that he has history with, and Scott PERSON's calling a good shot here.

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But the shocker, huh? Yeah, Scott PERSON's coming in here. How about a guy named he likes, a guy that he has history with, and Scott's calling a good shot here. But the shocker, huh?

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Yeah, Scott PERSON's coming in here.

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How about a guy named Dennis Allen, current head coach, the New Orleans Saints maybe in 2025?

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And that'd be a Broncos reunion because if memory serves, 2011, 2012,

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Dennis Allen was defensive coordinator here in Denver GPE.

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And it did not go well if memory serves. It went well enough for him to get the Raiders ORG head coaching job. Yeah. Well, yeah. What does that mean? Yeah, I know you got a two year, maybe a one or two year gig.He didn't last very long. Who the hell does over there for the Las Vegas Raiders, formerly the Oakland Raiders ORG? Look at our guy. Tea time, Larry PERSON. What's up, Larry PERSON? What's up, guys?It's not Nick Sabin PERSON that I don't trust. It's Sean PERSON and the quarterback coach and their ability to get the full potential out of Bo Knicks PERSON. Because of that, keep an unnecessary amount, not quarterbacks on the roster until we find someone who can drive and score at least three touchdowns a game. Now, Lawrence PERSON is obviously referencing legendary,

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the goat of college football. Nick Saban PERSON, man. Nick Saban is firing back at critics who are saying the Broncos ORG reached for Bo Nick's. You can go read about that, our good friend Keith Cummings PERSON from across the pond as an article up and runningat Milehighhuddle.com. And many quotes came through from Nick Sabin PERSON. Good fit, accurate, really like Boe PERSON. I've known him since his sophomore year. I mean, when Nick Saban gives good fit, accurate, really like Boe. I've known him since his sophomore year. I mean, when Nick Saban PERSON gives Sean Payton some kudos and Nick Saban didn't quite have the same career he had in college as he had in NFL ORG, what do you make ofNick Sabin's PERSON comments? Because I see where Larry PERSON's going there. Larry's saying, okay, Nick Sabin PERSON, respect. But that doesn't mean everything's going to work out just because we're excited and just because we're curious for the future. I like Larry PERSON's cautious optimism that you sometimes represent, Tom PERSON. Well, he didn't have to, you know, he didn't have to come out and

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give him a review like that. That's where it's not someone he's attached to. He never coached him,

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you know, or anything like that. So it feels like it's kind of more of an honest take. Whether he's right or not, you know, that remains to be seen. But at least it's not coming from,

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you know, one of his position coaches or one of his ex-coaches that they had on a team, you know,

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somewhere down the line. It's coming from a legendary college coach who, you know, had firsthand

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experience playing against him. So I think you could take a little bit of that with, you know, had firsthand experience playing against him. So I think you could take a little bit of that with, you know, and put a little bit of, you know, faith into what he's saying. I mean, it's Nick Saban PERSON saying it. So, but, you know, he's an analyst now, right? He's, uh, so isn't he an analyst now?

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Like, one of the network.

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So maybe, you know, maybe he's just playing the devil's advocate or something. Well, it's weird too, right? And you look at Bo Nix PERSON, who I think he was,yeah, he's an Alabama GPE boy. I think he was technically born in like Arkansas or something like that. He's an Alabama GPE boy. And we know what football is in the south, right?We have an idea, Scott PERSON knows he's live, he's still living in it. He lived in this whole life. I'm here in Colorado GPE native. It's different.I remember my high school football teams, man, and I remember traveling to the South LOC. And I remember thinking we were the big dogs here in Colorado GPE. We were. But it was very humbling when you got to the South LOC.And you realized Texas, Bama, Florida, Tennessee GPE, what football is to them is a lot different than what it was to us now here in Colorado GPE.

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So I like that. I like the pedigree of a Bo Nix PERSON, right? We're talking Scott got to go to school with his dad out there in Auburn ORG. Watch his dad play. That's where Knicks for six ORG is coming from. I mean, that stuff excites me. Now, doesn't mean it's going to work out. No. And Lawrence coming back in, in my opinion, Zach Wilson PERSON should have more quarterback reps in the NFL and he could get benched when Bo PERSON learns more. I don't like that.I think the best one is your arm, just when Bo PERSON learns more. I don't like that. I think the bearer is one that's your arm just like I am. So call your shot, dog. No, Zach Wilson PERSON,

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can Zach Wilson be prepared? Zach Wilson's been a Denver Bronco longer than Bo Nix PERSON. Wonder what that preparation is like when you look at Bo Nix and Zach Wilson PERSON side by side on the grease board. I know what it's like for Jarrett Stidham. Jarrett Stidham's a robot. That's why Sean Peyton loves him. Jarrett Stidham is a wh side on the grease board. I know what it's like for Jarrett Stidham. Jared Stidham PERSON's a robot. That's why Sean Peyton PERSON loves him. Jarrett Stidham PERSON is a whiz on the grease board based on everything that I've heard. And I think that's why Sean Payton is very attached to Jarrett Stidham PERSON.I think Sean Payton is hoping that Jarrett Stidham PERSON is going to put his hand around Bo Nix and try to mamaat him along for a couple years in the league. Now, can he do it? Maybe. Do we do it? Maybe. Do we see it? I don't know.Is it because Jared Stidham doesn't have a ton of experience? He's going to one day. I mean, these journeyman quarterbacks that have played 17 years in the league, believe it or not, Tom PERSON, they started out on a team as a young dog, you know,

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and not a lot of reps. And sometimes they just, they tend to last and they're like that bad penny. You can't give rid of it. It's true. Yeah, I mean, I think the plan is to, well, I'll say this. If Zach Wilson PERSON is the one starting, there's some serious issues going on.That's my opinion. I don't think Zach Wilson PERSON's going to be on this team.

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I don't, when this, when September 1st rolls around, when they got to make those cuts, or whenever it is August 30th, I don't think he's going to be on the team.

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I think it's going to be Stidim PERSON. If Bownix isn't ready to start, Stidham's going to take the first few starts until Bonax PERSON is ready.

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Hopefully Bonax is the starter and Stidham PERSON is the backup can come in if necessary, if something falters or whatever.

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And then they need to find, they need to find a third guy.

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And I don't know who that would be, but I just don't, Zach Wilson PERSON to me doesn't offer anything. I've seen him play. He's had one of the worst three seasons of any starting quarterback in the history of the NFL ORG. I mean, I've looked at it. I've adjusted the stats for area.It's terrible. I've seen him play. He's not. And on top of it, I don't feel like he's, you know, really a Sean Payton PERSON type of guy either. So I don't, I don't know why you, why he even is on the team, really.

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Like I said, the first of the show, why not have a savvy vet that can help a rookie quarterback? I get it. I did it that they didn't have them drafted yet, but that was the point.

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You're right. And coulda would or should have, right? It's like to the Bo Nex ORG people that wanted somebody else here. Sorry, we're stuck with Bo PERSON. I don't look at it as stuck. Now, if you don't like the Bo Knicks, I completely understand, you're stuck with Knicks. I just, you don't like the Bo Nix PERSON, Beck, I completely understand. You're stuck with Nix. I just, I don't perceive Sean Payton bringing a new quarterback into his offense, into this team that late into training camp right before the regular season. I disagree with you. I think Zach Wilson PERSON makes this team.I think it's Zach Wilson, Jarrett Stittam, and Bo Nix PERSON in that quarterback room. That doesn't mean that's what I would do. That doesn't mean that's what I want. Remember, I don't want Bo Nix per se, Tom PERSON. I thought it could happen. I listed it as a possibility. I'm getting excited about it. I want to try to look at Zach Wilson PERSON with the same, a similar. I don't, I shouldn't say same. I want to look at Zach Wilson PERSON with a similar optimism, a similar sort of curiosity. Nathaniel Hackett, Nathaniel Hackett ruins quarterbacks, Tom PERSON. All right.He ruins quarterbacks. He's, he's, let's, what's he doing now? You know,like, we're going to just all of a sudden have this career resurgence. I don't know, man. It just doesn't work. It didn't work out in New York GPE.I get it. It may not work out here in Denver GPE. I get it. But it's an out here in Denver GPE. I get it. But it's an intriguing storyline, right? And I think right now with Zach Wilson and that fifth year option being declined today, you're probably a little bit more closer to your point than mine.I think a world where Zach Wilson PERSON gets released isn't a stretch. I think that we could totally see that. But I think Zach PERSON wanted to bring on or Zach, Sean wanted to bring Zach in, who's roughly Bo Nix's PERSON age, right? I mean, how about some peer to peer competition a little bit? You get a young guy, two young guys in the room and then Jared Stittam and Gucci-Dinucci PERSON.Here we go.

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Well, the difference, I guess, with the optimism is Bo Nix, we haven't seen him play in the NFL ORG yet. There's optimism because we think, okay, he can take that next step. There was optimism when Zach Wilson PERSON was drafted as well. And we saw that he just doesn't have it at the NFL ORG level. So that's why I don't have optimism for Zach Wilson PERSON while I do have optimism for Bo Nix because it's warranted.

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He has yet to the NFL ORG's map. Let me pin you down for a second. And I just thought about this. Who would you rather have in the Denver Broncos ORG quarterback room just to see? Zach Wilson or Trey Lance? Oh.That's a tough one, right?

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Yeah, it is a tough one. I mean, I'm going back to that draft, right? And I'm thinking, man, I loved Zach Wilson PERSON. I loved him. And then I think back to some of our cohorts, right? And some of them that loved Trey Lance.

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And they're two different quarterbacks, but they're both kind of in the same wrinkle right now. It didn't really work out during that first punch. They flinched a little bit. Now their careers are kind of on their last legs before they could really get started.

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Yeah, I guess I guess I'd have to lean towards Zach Wilson PERSON just because he actually

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You heard it. He actually got the start. Like, he even been able to really get on the field. So that's saying something.

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But yeah, again, I just, you know, to me,

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Zach Wilson PERSON now is not, it's not a necessary player on the team at his position.

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You've got it, you've got a young guy that you've invested your first round pick in. I still think that there should be a vet that's, that helps mentor him. And maybe Stidham PERSON is the guy. It just doesn't feel like it to me. He doesn't feel like he's had enough time and experience to really, but maybe he is. I mean, what is?This is his fourth year. This will be his fifth year in the NFL ORG. Maybe he does have it. Maybe Sean Payton PERSON's happy with that.

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Should be plenty of tread on that tire, I think, is what

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you're getting at. Zibo PERSON coming back in here. I think that they, being the Broncos ORG, will rehab Zach Wilson PERSON to hopefully translate to some picks. It's a George Payton PERSON kind of a move. I disagree there, Zibo PERSON. This isall Sean. George doesn't, George doesn't make the moves. George does what he's told. That's Sean PERSON's role. But I agree with you that hopefully it translates to some sort of success. What if Zach Wilson PERSON looks decent and maybe you could trade him? I don't know how that would work.Because if Zach Wilson PERSON's looking really good and gets value, then that means he has been playing winning football and winning games. And then everything's out of whack. And then we're into a San Francisco 49ers quarterback room where we have a Trey Lance in our first round pick in Bo Nix PERSON. And then there's a Brock Purdy PERSON scenario where we've got a lesser pedigree quarterback. What a, what a mess, this quarterback thing here in the NFL ORG is.

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I think what it would mean was Bo Nix PERSON didn't work out.

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Stidham PERSON got hurt.

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Zach Wilson PERSON got to play and he started playing good. Then it's like, oh, wait, he's playing good. We can't get rid of him. Oh, man, nightmare scenario. Break glass in case of emergency Ben Danucci PERSON. Cody Doves PERSON coming back.Jared Stidham PERSON is quarterback? No. Stidham quarterback coach. Yes, he's uh cody PERSON i i'm glad you brought this up the quarterback coach this has been brought up a couple times tonight as we start to wrap up m h i it's escaping me the quarterback

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coach for the Denver broncos right now right davis webb davis webb he has been getting some buzz

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the last year he was a first year quarterback coach last year. A lot of analysts, I think Chris Sims went out there, Mike Florio PERSON, shocker, right? Come out and say, don't be surprised if you see this guy as a play caller in the league. What do you make of a Davis Webb PERSON and a rookie quarterback? Even the quarterback coach doesn't have that much experience, right?

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NFL ORG.

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Yeah, I mean, he's really well respected.

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So, you know, I love the comment because, you know, maybe I'm looking at it from a wrong perspective, right? Maybe, you know, Stidim PERSON is smart enough. He just can't get out there on the field, doesn't have all the tools, but he knows it

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in his mind.

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So maybe you're on to something. Maybe I've been overlooking Stidim PERSON as far as a mentor towards a young rookie quarterback. So we'll see how it plays out. Yeah, Davis Webb, to me, was kind of a head scratcher when it first happened.

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But he seems to, you know, be well respected. And I mean, that's all I got to go with.

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Like, people think he's an up-and-coming coach, a really decent, you know, solid quarterback coach and probably has a future, you know, down the road is, you know, offensive coordinator. And so, I mean, you know, even though he didn't have a lot of time in the NFL ORG, he's earned the respect of many of the NFL ORG people. So I got to go with that. Yeah, that's just it.

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And Phil McLaughlin coming in here when Zach Wilson was the number one, number two pick, where did you guys have him rated? It was so funny, Phil, I don't know if you saw this on my social media at Luke Patterson, LP ORG. I like, I made fun of Zach Wilson two days before he came here. And I was making fun of everybody. I was blasting everybody, especially those guys per source that are never wrong about anything, right?Just like they guaranteed Sean Payton PERSON would never be here. Still, you know, silly stuff like that. We are so wrong all the time. It's okay. We reserve judgment to change our mind. But I like to bring up some failed picks that I've had. year still you know silly stuff like that we are so wrong all the time it's okay you we reserve judgment to change our mind but i like to bring up some failed picks that i've had zach wilson

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was one of them i had him as my number one quarterback coming out of that draft i absolutely loved

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his talent and arm strength and uh i'm sure you could go read those articles at luke patterson

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lp he over on he did have talent and arm strength. But, you know, at least it was, like, I never did. I would never, we never got to it. But I posted it on Twitter. My, my biggest dumb draft take was saying I wanted Louis Oliver over Steve Atwater back in 89. So I'm admitting to it.

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What the heck, you know, that was dumb. That was dumb. Everybody does it.

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I didn't have Zach Wilson PERSON raid anywhere. I was, I didn't really i wasn't really watching to evaluate them as players i was

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doing a lot of analytics about the overall draft and and where the rounds you know kind of fall you

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people that are you know positions that are drafted by round and stuff like that so i i had no

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opinion uh at the time on zach well you certainly have one now, Tom PERSON.

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I do.

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You don't hold back on Zach PERSON.

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Michael coming in, tying a big red bow on it.

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Great show tonight, Luke and Thomas and Scott on the Mile High Insiders and Go Broncos ORG.

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Guys, you absolutely brought the heat.

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I've been waiting for a long time to share some of these opinions. I've been trying to share just a few of them over on X at Luke Patterson, LP, Tom PERSON. I know you're the same way at Thomas Hall NFL, but we tried to really save it for Wednesday night, for MHA ORG. It's a special night for Tom and Scott PERSON and I, and we've been waiting to share this with you in Broncos Country.It has been rocking and rolling on Wednesday nights. I can't thank you enough. Yeah, it's been great.

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I mean, it's nice to not have three shows, right? Because it felt like before I was like talking about something, then I was saying it again on another show. Now it's all builds up to this one night, and it's actually pretty fun because I have a lot of stuff I want to get off my chest, so to speak.So it's nice to have everybody in the chat to talk with. And, of course, you were talking with you about football.

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I appreciate that, brother. As always, Broncos Country. We love you all so much. Lawrence PERSON coming back in here. Don't beat yourself up.He was with the Jets ORG and Hack it. Now, I hear you, Lawrence PERSON. And I'll try to kick the tires on Zach Wilson PERSON and see what we get. I certainly appreciate all of you guys. And you know where I want to see Bo Nix PERSON? I want to see him at the Nuggets game on Saturday night against the Minnesota Timberwolves,man. Let's go. Nuggets ORG. Do not forget the Colorado Avalanche ORG. We are rocking and rolling here in the Mile High City GPE. Stay tuned to Mile Highhuddle ORG.Follow the mothership on Twitter on X at Mile High LOC Huddle. Give Tom a follow at Thomas Hall NFL ORG. You're truly at Luke Patterson, LP ORG. Don't forget our buddy and good friend, Scott Kennedy at Scout Kennedy ORG. Broncos country, here we go with Bo Nix PERSON. Quack, quack, quack, quack.This is the way.

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