BTB #378: Setting Bo Nix Expectations for Year 1 | What Payton is Planning

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Welcome in, welcome in. It is Tuesday evening, the last day of April, and it's time for an episode of Building the Broncos WORK_OF_ART, the Built Broncos, I guess on this show, the first Tuesday after the draft. I am Nick Kendall and joined by, as always, Carl Dunmler PERSON. Carl PERSON, how you doing now that the dust has settled?It's kind of good that we have a chance to sit here and talk about a really unique topic here. I don't know. I mean, I'm pretty isolated, especially with the newborn, right? I don't have much time to other than work, you know, eat sleep. But setting Bo Nix expectations, year one, We're on the cutting edge here. I haven't heard too much yet.

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Yeah, no, it's, I mean, anytime you get a new quarterback in the first round, it is one of those great things that brings that four-letter word that everybody loves, hope. You know, you just hope that maybe this could be that one that works out and turns your franchise around. And Broncos ORG fans have been wanting this for a long time. You know, obviously we try to talk ourselves into Paxton Lynch for a while,Drew Locke PERSON for a while. He wasn't a first rounder. But now committing a top 12 pick like this is your guy for the next couple of years, unless something really falls off the rails. And you have like the number one pick and you're going, okay, guy is not it but for the most part like I said this is your guy and Sean Peyton PERSON I mean it's he he sounds like a person that just got into a brand newrelationship and can't wait to tell everybody about their their new girlfriend and how great they are and and all those kind of. So you got the got the butterflies. I love listening to him talk about them because it does get you excited about them. Now, how much should that change my thoughts on how I felt about him going into it? And I was pretty high on him compared to a lot of other people. But still, like I said, it's that cautious optimism beginning to boil up and get ready for this upcoming season.Yeah.

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Sean Payton PERSON got his guy. He's obviously really excited about it. I don't think he had to put out there that he felt the same way about Bo Nix as the feelings he had with Patrick Mahomes PERSON. Kind of unfair to Bo Nix PERSON out of here.

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Also, doesn't really correlate because I guess Knicks was this third quarterback. So like how high was he on Daniels and Caleb Williams? To say that, you know, he felt the same about Mahomes PERSON. Granted, we didn't know about Mahomes PERSON being Mahomes back then.

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But Denver ORG's got a new quarterback and we're going to set some year one expectations with Bo Nix here today. But first, let's say a lot of people coming in here. And we have to start with our super chats, of course, because you guys keep the lights on for us at Mile High Huddled for building the Broncos ORG. So we really do appreciate all of these coming in and the support from you guys.You don't have to drop a super chat to get read or obviously to contribute. But certainly helps Carl and I and all of us here at Mile High Huddles FAC. So we appreciate that. Like David McElrath's comment coming in here, $5 saying, good evening, Nick and Carl and Deacon Scott PERSON, hashtag Bo knows. Hashtag Buckham three times. Hashtag MHS for Life. Hashtag Dember Broncos ORG for life. I'm Bo Heath. I'm completely behind Sean Payton. Zach, I was a Peyton PERSON fan.So no Zach here, but yeah, Sean Peyton PERSON. Okay, I got confused there because it was Peyton spelled like Peyton Manning PERSON, but we got Sean Payton. Okay, I got confused there because it was Peyton spelled like Peyton Manning, but we got Sean Payton PERSON. We also got Peyton PERSON, the general manager.

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Peyton PERSON, Peyton.

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It's a whole lot of Peyton's, but thank you so much, David PERSON, for the super chat coming in here. Hope you're doing well. Always good to hear from you. We got Kenneth Booker PERSON coming in here, too, says, is there a player that you were banging the table for the Broncos ORG of drafts in later rounds and the Broncos ORG passed on?I got to be honest with you, day three of the draft, first time I've done this in a decade, but I was purely on baby duty all day after doing a lot of coverage and work the same days, Thursday and Friday. Saturday, I check the phone. I message the guys in the chat, but it's definitely a fair deal. Nick PERSON was on baby duty.So later rounds that they passed, I guess you might be able to talk Leonard Floyd PERSON is a name that stands out to me. Leonard Taylor PERSON, excuse me, Leonard Taylor PERSON, the defensive tackle had some good tape. It went undrafted. Mike Nugent PERSON, the center kind of stands out too,but I can't think of anybody as it was happening live that I was banging the table for. So I'll kick it over you, Carl PERSON.

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Yeah, I mean, round four, um, Jvonne Baker at wide receiver. I had him ranked a little bit ahead of Troy Franklin. I mean, I'm not upset about the Troy Franklin pick all that much, but still, that was another wide receiver that I had really high. Jalen Wright PERSON at running back was another guy that it was really sad to see him go off the board when he did there in the fourth round. I thought he wouldbe a really nice fit in the Sean Payton offense. I'm trying to think jumping to fifth round. Austin Booker, just because I'm a KU ORG fan. I would have loved to have seen him in Denver ORG. I know we'd already take an edge, but he was another one that I really liked heading into this draft process. I thought he would have been a decent pick for the Broncos at that point to keep adding to that group. But then again, we also knew about that time that the Broncos were bringing in John, John Michael PERSON.John Franklin Myers PERSON. Yeah, John Franklin Myers PERSON. Michael Myers PERSON in my head.

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And I'm like, that's not right.

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John Jacob PERSON,

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and Matt PERSON was having people.

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But yeah, no, John Franklin Myers PERSON.

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So that kind of eased that one for me. Really, because I mean, we've talked about it on this podcast many times talked about on draft day two, that really after the fourth round, there just

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was this huge drop off where it was just kind of like, yeah, okay, I get it like, it's a player, you know, when we got to the seventh round picks, both of them, neither of them got me excited by any means, but there wasn't anybody still out there that I was like, yes, please, you know, when we got to the seventh round picks. Both of them, neither of them got me excited by any means, but there wasn't anybody still out there that I was like, yes, please, Broncos ORG, take this player. So, yeah, like I said, the fourth round is where I had a couple more players.I still had maybe a little bit earlier. I would have, like, early third round, I would have been really happy and they were still there in the fourth.

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Yeah, and Scott in the background here says Theo Johnson, tight end from Penn State and Tanner Bordellini Center from Wisconsin ORG, where two of our guys in the fourth. Also, there was Malik Mustafa safety from Wake Forest ORG. So, yeah, there were some guys still available, but I like Denver ORG's move to trade up in the fourth. And I also like both fifth round picks a lot, too. So, I mean, if I had to say my favorite pick of a whole draft, besides, you know, the excitement and the potential of taking a rookie cost control quarterback that your coach loves is, uh, Adrigestime.I mean, the second youngest running back on the class absolutely built. I mean, he has like, what, 7% body fat or something. Ran a 4-7-1, but I mean, if you break tackles and you have good vision and patience and that's okay, you don't have to have home run speed uh to be a good running back in that kind of that realm so questions about you know the the past catching ability given that system there but in theory he should be pretty damn good as a past protector and should be somebody

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that can give the ball to and grind teams down yeah i i'd be interested i wonder if he was a hurdler in high school because how many guys he hurdles. I mean, he has that like hurdle step the way he jumps over people. Just just a random thought that I was happening when I was watching him. But we got KB82 with the 499 saying it was a cool story. Nick PERSON's family took in a fellow teammate going through some rough times.Yeah, it was really cool. Then got to play this last year together in Oregon ORG. And he should be a decently high pick next year. I would say probably day two pick, possibly at wide receiver. Very athletic, great kid. And then the Knicks family. The more you read about all of them, not just Bo Nix PERSON, but the entire family, the more you want to cheer for this guy, the more you see the good in him and trying to help teammates out. I made the comment, draft day, that, you know, there's that moviedraft day where Bo PERSON doesn't have any teammates that come to, no teammates come to his birthday party. And I said, Bo Nix PERSON would have a lot of teammates at his birthday party because he is well loved. And, yeah, so I do love that about the kid. He's going to be a great teammate. Now we've just got to see if he has the tools to actually be a great quarterback. We're driven by the search for better.

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And shout out to the Nix PERSON's family if, you know, being in a position of privilege and benefit of life and sharing that love. So that's a, everybody does that. So really good to see that. And hopefully Bo Nix and his family, you know, integrated well into Denver ORG, which is, Denver, the Broncos ORG do a really good job of the player community relationship.So hopefully Nix PERSON can step into that role. We got David Cremello coming in saying, do you guys agree with Robbie NFL that it was good process to stay at 12 and take Knicks ORG? Nick is more likely Denver picks five top 10 or six to 10 in 2025. Bo Nix PERSON is a complete,not a complete unknown, but as far as an NFL ORG quarterback right now, he could end up being good next year. He could not be good. I mean, we just, it's really hard to evaluate that,especially with the Oregon ORG offense, how little he was under pressure, uh, how defenses are going to play him, blah, blah, so I think probably if I had to bet right now,I mean, what does Vegas ORG have met? 5.5 wins. Maybe adding going from Stidum to Bonix PERSON adds another win, according to Vegas ORG. We'll do our schedule breakdown when the time comes to it.Uh, but they're probably most likely picking in that like eight to 14 range, I think next season. But we'll see. Because they're a rookie quarterback team, that's a high variance team. You just, that's the most important position and we don't know. So we'll see. And as far as Bronco staying at 12, a good process. If they identified him as Sean Payton's PERSON quarterback and you didn't have to trade up, you know, give up a lot besides 12, which is still a premium investment,but it's not like, you know, trading up and giving up three future first-round picks, then you brought in Sean Peyton PERSON to build this team in his image and what he wants to do. And if he's standing on the table saying, this is my guy, and you didn't have to give up a lot to get him, I think that is good process from an organization now. We will see if the evaluation itself was a good process. But I think the selection, in hindsight, but I think the selection and everything to it was a good process overall, even if, you know, I, on the record, total overall seemed rich from my evaluation of Nix PERSON.But again, if I have the head coach, I gave all that money, power, gave way draft picks come in. And he's saying, that's my guy. You don't have a choice, really, but to go get him. So I'm fine with it.

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Yeah, especially after those first five went the way that they did. And then you saw the huge drop off from Bo Nix PERSON to that next quarterback. I think did it break the record for longest period between picks of quarterbacks? It would have to.

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I mean, it was the fifth round.

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I think it was like 118 was the record and 125 end up being what it was in this track or something like that. Anyway, so it just shows the drop off after those top six. And if any team was going, okay, we really need a quarterback. And Bo Nix PERSON is the only one left. Yeah, I'm sure that there were some teams making some phone calls possibly.And Nix PERSON is, like you said, he's kind of an interesting evaluation. There's going to be some that really love him and think, hey, he's going to be a really good fit in this system. But he's really a system quarterback. Like you have to have him in the right place, right time, right players around him to make that work. You know, like Caleb Williams, he's one of those guys. You could probably stick him in a few different kinds of systems and he could work.Drake May PERSON, because they have that just natural tools, talent, that they can do some different things and attack different ways. Bo Nix PERSON isn't that kind of guy. And we've talked about it where I thought he was a good, 137 picks in between Jeremy PERSON's letting us now. So, yeah, like I said, if he is your guy and we've,I'm sure many people have read all the articles and Sean Peyton PERSON talking about him and stuff like that of just like, hey, we knew after his pro day and after our private workout, like we said, that's our guy. We got to go get him. You don't take that chance for maybe a couple more fifth round picks to trade back a couple spots. You know, you look a lot of those first round trades, they weren't getting a whole lot, really when we're talking about trade value going back. So I mean, did you see what the Patriots

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were offered from the Vikings ORG? Yeah. To go up. I mean, that value going back. I mean, did you see what the Patriots were offered from the Vikings? Yeah. To go up. I mean, that's the fact that. I mean, there were big trades on the table.

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They just chose May over the trade package. Right. But that was top three. So, I mean, once we get further back, obviously the trades go further down. And so I don't blame them for one bit deciding, hey, we got to take him at 12. We don't think he's going to be there at 18, 19 if we trade back that far kind of thing.

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So Michael Rukkeo PERSON coming out.

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I was very, you know, Drake May was the quarterback that I really liked in this cycle,

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because I never thought Caleb Williams was possible.

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But let's just extrapolate with the Vikings offered, which I believe was 12, or excuse me, 11, 23, a third rounder this year, a 2025 first. That would be Denver's, you know, one in three this year, 2025 first, 2026 first, maybe a little more because there's a premium on those future picks, right, or the premium on the more current picks. I'd rather stay there at Bonix PERSON.

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I love Drake May, but with where Denver ORG's at from a team building perspective, I'm probably happy with Bonix at 12 than trading everything from Drake May PERSON. Now, Drake May PERSON hit, if I could know which one was going to be the quarterback, right? It doesn't even matter, which, like, you'd give up everything to have Allen, Mahomes PERSON, whatever, to guarantee that player. But they're prospects.

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They're not guarantees.

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But what is a guarantee?

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Always come in under the support. Michael Ronquios PERSON says, Good evening, Nick Carl on Billing the Broncos ORG. Go Broncos ORG. Go Michael. Always appreciate you coming in.Always a lot of good conversation.

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We also got Phil PERSON coming in saying, Good evening, Nick Carl and Deacon Scott PERSON got to say, I've become a pessimist over the last seven years. So I have to see the results before I'm convinced Nix PERSON was the right pick. I would have traded back myself. I don't think the Raiders ORG would have taken him.Yeah, I haven't heard anything from the Raiders ORG themselves. Now, would they put it out there? I don't know. But a lot of people, it seems from what I've seen speculative that like if you didn't take Nix at 12, no doubt. The Raiders would have taken him at 13. The Saints would have taken him at 14.The, gosh, the Rams ORG would have taken him. The Cowboys would have taken him. The Seahawiders would have taken him at 13. The Saints would have taken him at 14. The, gosh, the Rams would have taken him. The Cowboys ORG would have taken him. The Seahawks ORG would have taken him.

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Steelers ORG.

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I mean, I don't know. We'll find out, I guess, maybe as time passes on. But, again, I would have been okay living in the uncertainty in the world that if I traded back and got, you know, another second round pick and a future day two pick to move back six, 10 spots and Knicks ORG was gone. Okay.But, but if I was the general manager and my head coach who, let's be real, who's wearing the pants in that room besides the Walton Penner PERSON group, but like it's Sean Payton's PERSON team.

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You can't do that.

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You know, he's the guy.

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And this, that pick, if it works out or not, it's on Sean Peyton PERSON.

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So I just think you can't do that.

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I would have been okay living with that.

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Denver ORG wasn't. I like the conviction there, in the very least. So we'll see. And I'm with Phil PERSON as well, but I don't think that makes you a pessimist. I just think that makes you more of a scientist, right? We're in the observation stage now.You know, you had your hypothesis. We got it on the field now. We're going to get 12, 20 starts of NICS before we can really have an idea of who he is, probability-wise, as a NFL ORG quarterback long term. I'm eager to see it, and I really hope Sean Payton PERSON is right because the bar is so high for quarterback in the AFC.It's so high.

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It is. And really, I mean, the statistics bear it out that more. right because the bar is so high for quarterback in the AFC. It's so high.

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It is.

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And really, I mean, the statistics bear it out that more likely than not, Bo Nix PERSON is not going to work out. More likely than not, maybe only two of the quarterbacks from this first round draft workout. It's just the way that the position kind of works because it matters not only the talent, but it matters the situation they go to. I think Bonix PERSON fell into the perfect situation,so we can't really use that as an excuse of why he fails. Going to Sean Payton, Broncos ORG have at least a few weapons. I mean, it's not the greatest weaponry you've ever seen, but it's not the worst I've ever seen a rookie quarterback going to. Good offensive line should have a strong running game, especially after Estimate PERSON, getting drafted.So, yeah, he's in a good situation. McCarthy PERSON's in a good situation. Honestly, I'd be a little bit nervous being Drake May with Patriots ORG. I'm afraid they're going to ruin him possibly there. I mean, they did draft a couple wide receivers. We'll have to see how that works out.Jaden Daniels with Washington ORG. That's going to be an interesting one, especially defensive coach. Let's say your offense is successful. You know, we're seeing this with Josh Allen. His offensive coordinator has to keep changing because he has a defensive-minded head coach. And we've seen times where it's a high variance of one coach it works,the next coach, there's a lot more failure. So like I said, I'm just, I'm kind of interested to see how all their situations play out with it. And so, Phil PERSON, I'm with you. I'm trying not to get too high because I don't want to be let down because we've had plenty of that over the last, like I said, seven, nine years kind of thing. But there's at least a little bit of hope that maybe they've got this quarterback position figured out. And we can talk about something other than quarterback when we're talking about thedraft for the first time in a lot of years. That would be great going into next year.

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The defensive line is going to be pretty fun in 2025, edge and interior. Can't wait. It'll be a lot of fun. And I will put this out there. I put it out on Twitter ORG. I've said it on here before,but there really is no wrong way, in my opinion, to feel about the Knicks selection for the Broncos ORG. If you want to be, you know, Knicks is going to be the next John Elway and Denver's going to win 10 Super Bowls EVENT in a row. That's how you feel right now. And that's valid, you know, especially in this phase,if you're super exciting, you're going on there and buying all four iterations of the Bow Nix jersey the Broncos ORG have out there now, hallelujah, God bless you. If you think it was a terrible pick, yeah, okay, you can feel that way, you know, but the only wrong way is to tell people how they should feel about it.

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And then also be an a hole about it.

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So I am very, you know, sit back. We made, I made my assessment. Now we are wait and see and hope for the best. And yeah, that's just how I'm going to try to play it.

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But go ahead.

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Well, I was just going to say, I think there's, there's a lot of reasons both ways to feel

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that way.

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You know, you can point to, like I said, the Oregon ORG offense.

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You can point to some of the lack of arm talent on some things. You can point to a lot of things on the negative. And then on the positive, I mean, even Sean Peyton PERSON really pointed towards the analytics side of things to say, like, he's first in almost all these categories when it comes to this draft class. And I think they really did lean into a lot of analytics like the Troy Franklin

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pick yeah if you're looking at just the analytical side of things when it comes to his career

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in college he's a top three wide receiver in this draft class you know Malik PERSON neighbors Marvin Harrison Jr. have an argument but otherwise I mean if you're talking like one of the big usually stats that a lot of teams look at as yards per route run for a career in college, I think he's number two behind neighbors in that category. Yeah.

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But then you can also look at the other side of go, okay, most receivers that weigh 176 pounds coming out of college don't do well.

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There's like one, Devante Smith PERSON. The rest of them have all failed miserably when it comes to that kind of thing. So like I said, there's a lot of good reasons to like what the Broncos ORG did in this draft. There's a lot of reasons to be worried moving forward to.

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Yeah, and a lot of people are excited. Marty PERSON says, I'm excited for the fresh start of a new quarterback. Absolutely. We got Todd PERSON says, hello, everybody.Good to see it. Wolfie's in the house. Mike S says, what's up everybody? We got Andy Schrantz PERSON coming in. Always love the, the snake picture there, Andy PERSON. I don't know if that, is that the poisonous one is what's the, is it red black yellow or red yellow black, whatever the order is to be look, be, be weary of,

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I don't know. I just stay away from them all. Stay away from a mall. Snakes are cool. Zach Powers PERSON comes in and says, afternoon sickos. Afternoon to you, Zach PERSON, hope you're doing well.Got our guy, Jeremy PERSON, says, good evening here, everyone. And yeah,happy belated birthday to Carl PERSON. Carl's birthday was yesterday. So I don't want you to put your age out there, for anybody out there because, you know, it starts to,I'm at the point now where it's like, uh, uh,

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uh, but, uh, he says also Nick PERSON take it ease.'m at the point now where it's like, uh, uh, uh, but, uh, we got, uh, says also Nick take it ease. I just saw Scott PERSON in the background. Scott, you are young at heart and, uh,

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he's giving us a nice wave in a race. Yeah, that's not a nice finger. Uh, Paul PERSON coming in here.

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says, hello, Carl, Nick and Scott PERSON. Always good to see everybody coming on with the happy birthdays, of course. Daniel Barry sports is evening, string guys in the house. Brooklyn official music says, go Broncos, go, Bo PERSON. I expect big things from him. And, yeah, Corey Johnson comes in, it says Bo Dix plus Sean Peyton is better than Caleb Williams. I mean, by even Sean Peyton's accounts, he would have, if Broncos had the first overall pick,don't think Bo Nix would be the quarterback of the Broncos ORG right now. It'd probably be Caleb Williams. But, you know, we'll see. Definitely, you're talking about situations. If I had to rank the situations where the quarterbacks went to as far as talent and supporting cast, unfortunately, the Broncos are probably fourth in that list.No, offensive line is solid, but last year they had a lot of health injury luck on the offensive line. Weapons are very questionable to me, but last year they had a lot of health injury luck on the offensive line. Weapons are very questionable to me, but I would probably rank them. Minnesota 1, the Bears ORG, too. I mean, they got really good weapons, Carl PERSON. Atlanta 3.

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I mean, it's a weird situation with Kirk Cousins PERSON, but, I mean, they got weapon after after weapon and a top 10 offensive line, too. Then Denver ORG, and then probably, oh gosh, where the other quarterbacks,

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probably then the commanders and then the Patriots as far as supporting cast talent around them. But got Sean Peyton PERSON. That has to count for something. I don't know if he's the best offensive mindout of those guy. I mean, historically he is. Kevin O'Connell's pretty freaking good. I think he's probably one of the top three innovators right now.But we'll see. We'll see. All we can say for sure is Sean Payton PERSON loved him and he got his guy. Let's get to work. Phil McLaughlin PERSON says, guys,I really love the kid, uh, Mattocha PERSON, but it's going to be impossible for him to make the Broncos ORG, but his exposure might get him a chance another team. What offense did the minds mostly run?Phil PERSON, I'm going to be honest with you. God bless you for the comments here. Newborn tape that I don't have access to. When it's like UDFA guys or small school guys, I kind of wait for training camp, OTAs preseason,and go from there. So I couldn't tell you I have not gotten to the undrafted free agents to that level because I'm still trying to catch up on what's happened on the league as a whole. So I wish I had more for you, Phil PERSON, on that. So I actually had somebody

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asking me about him earlier today because they got a rookie minicamp invite. And I mean,

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there's some okay things there. He's small. Got a pretty big windup for an arm that I'm not exactly excited about.

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But there's a little bit of promise there.

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Maybe given Ben Danucci PERSON a little run for his money. Right now, I'm kind of viewing it as they needed another arm for rookie minicamp. Sometimes you like to have two arms, throw into all those players instead of just one. And if he makes it to training camp, then I'll take him a lot more serious. Right now, he's just got to get through.I think rookie minicamp is either this Friday or the next Friday. They have two windows that they can do it. I'm not sure which one they're picking. So like I said, there's some promise there. Like I probably would say there's maybe a little more promise there from him than Ben Danucci PERSON.But we're talking to end of roster kind of kind of guys here.

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And I don't know how many quarterbacks the Broncos ORG are even going to keep on the roster this season. Based on what you said with him, you know, hopefully UFL, XFL, we'll see what happens. We got Richard Miles says I'm hoping Bonick sits for your first and learns. But dot, dot, dot, yeah, I am very much not of the opinion thatBonix PERSON should sit. Now, I do want an honest to God, you know, competition where if it's close at all, you probably have to go with the premium selected player because let's be real, Denver ORG is not going to be very goodin 2024. I believe that's more because the defensive talent than the offensive talent that they currently have. But, I mean, you have the third oldest quarterback drafted in the history of the NFL ORG. You have the quarterback with, what was the 61 starts, 62 starts, most in college football history,

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somebody who is mechanically very clean. And what has been talked about the pre-snap checks, the offensive install stuff, just a true professional and a smart kid.

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I don't see, unless he comes out and is terrible, or, you know, we have a Brock Purdy PERSON, Strait Lance situation or like Zach, or, yeah, Zach Wilson PERSON is unbelievable. Not likely, but I mean, you never know. We have to let it play out. Yeah. I just can't see a situation barring injury where Bowenix PERSON doesn't win the starting spot.

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Would you be more worried if he doesn't start year one, then, yeah, I would too. Yeah.

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You know, I've seen people say, well, you know, Patrick Mahomes took a year.

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Aaron Rogers had a couple years.

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Love had a couple years up there and Green Bay as well.

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Who is that they-cut you off?

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Who was ahead of those guys?

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Right. That's the thing is they had very established veterans that were winning.

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Yeah, some of them were, well, not Alex Smith PERSON, but he's still like getting them to the playoffs. Yeah. They were winning playoff yeah some of them are well not alex smith but he's still like getting them to the playoffs yeah they were a playoff team the

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year that they took patrick mahomes so you're trying to maximize that and and not you don't

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have to throw the rookie out there broncos don't have that sitem PERSON has what like seven starts to

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his career something like that or okay Zach Wilson PERSON he has a few more starts, but has been terrible.

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So right now, it doesn't hurt you completely to go through that number 12 overall pick.

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Like I said, it's older. He's more mature. He's a lot of people consider him pretty NFL ORG ready in a lot of ways. So I would be very nervous if he doesn't win the starting job. Honestly, part of me is kind of going, it's not that I want the Broncos ORG just to hand him the job,but I would rather them hand it to him earlier than later in training camp. You know, not do this. Hey, let's get through the second preseason game and then we'll make our decision. I don't want that. I don't want the splitting of the throws in practice because

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you've already got limited throws anyway. So we got Troy coming in here with a 99 super chat saying

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wonder whether Breeze has a warmer reception for Knicks than he did for Russell Wilson PERSON. Have a great show. Troy, thank you very much. I think he probably will. You know, there's a lot of people that are not big Russell Wilson PERSON fans around the league. Players, player wise, coach wise, he just, he's rubbed a lot of people the wrong way of this personality. He's just, he's got a weird personality. So you either really love him or you just, you find him annoying. Bo Nix PERSON isn't that way.Like he's going to be a guy that's going to be, like I said, well loved in the locker room. Teammates love him, coaches love him. I've not heard a single person ever say a bad thing about this kid. So I think Brees PERSON, and I would probably bet Sean Payton even contacts Breeze and says, hey, I'd really love you to help this kid. Peyton Manning PERSON's worked with this kid before. So I know that Peyton Manning PERSON loves coming in and helping kids if they can. I'm sure both those guys will be talking to them and say,hey, this is what we encourage you to be doing, especially during this time. You've got a few months before training camp kicks off. This is how you should get into your playbook. This is what you should be doing with your receivers and all those kind of things. So I do expect a much warmer welcome.

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I think that the Drew Brees non-warm welcome probably had somewhat to do with the relationship with Sean Payton PERSON. And if Sean Payton says, you know, love Knicks and obviously seems like a pretty good relationship between Peyton and Breeze, of course. I can't imagine there being a cold reception by any means. I think, you know, Bo Nix PERSON comes off as a very hard worker, intelligent guy, and asking the right questions. So obviously, rookie quarterback coming in has gone through on the field, adversity.And again, just by all accounts, a professional already. So I imagine he'll have a warm reception. I'm thinking Peyton Manning PERSON. Also, it sounds like warm reception, eager about Bo Nicks in Denver ORG. We'll see that, you know,Peyton was excited about Drew Locke PERSON, too, right? They're just talking about some of what he can do. So we won't know until we know, right? So hopefully, but yeah, definitely a warm reception. And Denver ORG, in the very least, I think, stupidly. Not, okay, stupidly in a positive way.Like, it's crazy how much they raise the floor of the room bringing in Bo necks.

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Just from this season perspective and multiple season perspective, not stupidly as in bad pick or whatever.

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Patrick Willsey coming in here, saying, Aloha boys, Peyton knows Bo PERSON.

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Yeah, hopefully, hopefully he knows Boe. And hopefully Bo knows Peyton PERSON. I think it maybe here saying Aloha boys. Peyton knows Bo. Yeah, hopefully he knows Bo and hopefully Bo knows Peyton.

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I think it maybe is more important that Bo knows Peyton PERSON at this point. We got the Maraca 99 coming in says Nix PERSON was low risk. There's a possibility of high reward. If he ends up not being the guy, it won't cost us too much to move on. Yeah, I mean, there is an opportunity cost giving up the 12th overall pick. But, I mean, Denver, I guess it's not a great example because we haven't had two picksfor back-to-back years now before this. And it would have been nice to have, you know, some building block pieces there. But there would have been nice to have Latu there or Byron Murphy. We'll see. But again, they did not give up a lot. They did not have to trade up and go get that. And

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allegedly, Bo Nix was their third guy. So yes, it is easy. It's not a huge cost in reality. And it also is easy to move on if it doesn't work out.

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So we'll see. But that's a very well point by the Maraca coming in here. Another point I wanted to ask here, Carl PERSON, very well point by the Maraca PERSON coming in here. Another point I wanted to ask here, Carl PERSON, do you think that you talked about the gulf in the quarterbacks being selected this year between Pennix, McCarthy, Knicks ORG, all the way down to Rattler in the fifth?Do you believe that is as much the evaluation of those guys, or is it the middle class, middle tier quarterbacks that 10 years ago, you know, in the draft where you had Colin Kaepernick, Andy Dalton, Derek Carr PERSON, in those early day two guys, that era's gone with what the CBA ORG has done, with the benefit of the rookie quarterback contract on that.I honestly believe those guys that a decade ago would have gone day two, not anymore, jumped up. You're getting those guys middle of the first round. You're getting those guys who used to go, you know, middle of the first round, bottom of the top 10, going one, two, three in the draft.So I almost think that there's almost a loss of the middle class here because of the CBA, the quarterback desperation. And if you even have a chance to be a quality starter, you're going to be snagged. Is that, is that a crazy theory? I mean, it's not at all. I mean,

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you're always looking at the cost benefit. I mean, NFL ORG teams do this a lot of what's going to

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be worth it to pay to certain positions.

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I mean, it's why you're seeing wide receivers getting $30 million a year.

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Offensive tackles getting $25 million.

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It's why the safety group, people are going, we're not going to pay them anymore. Like, they're not as, it's not that they're not important. I'm not trying to say that. I'm just saying, positional-wise, where are you going to invest your money? And when you've got quarterbacks now making $55 million, it wouldn't surprise me in the next couple of years,they're up to $60 million a year, and you've got this rookie quarterback making $5, $6 million a year, that is a huge advantage, even if they only play at an average level. Let's say they're the 16th quarterback ranked in the NFL ORG. That is a huge advantage. You can surround that guy with an incredible team. And we've seen some teams that have been able to do that. The Ravens were able to do that with Joe Flacco PERSON.They gave him a great team around him before he got paid and won a Super Bowl EVENT. Now, Joe Flacco. They gave him a great team around him before he got paid and won a Super Bowl. Now, Joe Flacco PERSON played great in the playoffs. I'm not trying to take anything away from him, but he was an average quarterback most of that time. You know, you're looking at Brock Purdy PERSON right now. If he's making $55, $60 million a year, can they give him the team that he has right now and he's still playing at this kind of level? Part of it's the Shanahan PERSON system. He can make any quarterback

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look incredible, it seems like. But still, like I said, it's amazing. You've got to, oh, yeah,

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Trayland. Yeah. But that roster, I mean, you look at that 49 is ORG group and the wide receivers

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that he has, the offensive line, the defense. I mean, that is just such an incredible roster overall that it just makes things a lot easier. And we got Jason Schmidt PERSON. Is this my boy Jason Schmidt PERSON that I grew up with? I got to look at the picture here. It is.Oh, my gosh. Advice of how I defend my Broncos to my obnoxious Kansas City brother-in-law in 2024. I guess you could say Bonex PERSON's wife isn't as annoying. Maybe. I don't know. I guess you could say Andy Reid PERSON's going to retire soon.Travis Kelsey PERSON is going to be out of the league soon. So their era is coming to an end. Not well, not quite. They still have Patrick Mahomes PERSON. I'm sorry. Jason, I wish I had better news for you.I know living out here because, yeah, this is a guy I grew up with. I wish there was better news. I get it all the time. I've got Chiefs ORG fans talking to me all the time about this. I've had Chief PERSON symbols drawn on my windows of my vehicle. People bring statues, put them out in the yard. I mean, it just, it gets a little out of hand out here. And it is, it is a sad day. It's almostforced me to move to Colorado GPE just so I can get away from it. I think you just start blasting Taylor Swift

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music or something like that. You know, just like, this is the world you live in now. So I don't know. I feel like this is, this is me trying to give myself advice, but sometimes the best response is no response. You know,in due time, it's all going to turn over. And Denver ORG had a good run. And Kansas City's on a historic one right now. And, you know,a lot of those fans, we hate them, but they went, a lot of them have been diehards for a while. I guess you can also point at the ownership stuff, right? There are the hunts kind of suck in comparison. And there you go. Voted out,

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not for the stadium stuff. And now it sounds like they might be like threatening to, to move even. We'll see what happens there. But we got wealthy owners. So, you know, it's maybe you post

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the meme with a guy crying with the dollar bills, um, here.

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Cause, uh, money doesn't guarantee in the NFL ORG that you're going to be great, but having

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good ownerships gives you a really good chance. And Denver ORG's got an ownership group who sounds like they're going to invest heavily in the team. Uh, but we're going to, it's going to be a decade before we know, uh, that. I will say, you know, it takes a while to find out if you have good owners, but you can be pretty quickly to find out you have bad owners. And don't think we have

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bad owners. So Dennis Woods PERSON coming in here says,

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was Zach Wilson PERSON just a bad quarterback? It was in a bad system and a bad supporting cast.

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How's the fit with Sean Payton? Second overall pick must have talent.

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He's somebody who kind of loses his damn mind, trying to get through his reads. He had, I mean, was he played in that really weird COVID-shortened season against not good teams because BYU ORG was not in the conference then, so they didn't play a lot of talented players. I mean, I think Michigan went like two and six in the COVID season, too. So that was a really weird year. But he has big arm talent.He's got a very loose arm. Question is, can you get him to see the field better and not freak out? So, I mean, I think it's a little bit bad system,bad supporting cast, but also it's the reality of quarterbacks, right? We can all grade the arm talent and the tangibles to an extent, you know, the down the field, accuracy and touch.But the NFL ORG is a different game. I literally it's a different game you don't have nearly the same spacing the hash marks are much wider in college which changes you like you couldn't run the air raid to mike leech's you know preference in the NFL ORG because of just how the spacing works uh and um talent discrepancies too so it. So it'll be interesting to see what happens here. But I don't know if he was a bad quarterback, just maybe a bad situation.Definitely, though, weird circumstances over-evaluated, a missed, a bust to that extent. But still young and still has armed talent. So a very worthwhile scratcher ticket for the Broncos ORG.

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And I would say he was one of those guys. He did probably need to sit for a year. Like him being thrown to the wolves when he was 20, 21 years old when he was drafted. Like I said, coming from that weird BYU ORG setup, I just think he needed that time to really learn the playbook, learn how to function in the NFL, and putting them in that New York GPE market too.

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Like there are certain markets that are just tougher to play in.

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New York, Boston GPE, L.A. There's just a lot more media attention. And especially when you're the number two overall pick like there is sky high expectations of what you're going to do for that franchise and if you can't do it immediately like there's a lot of negativity coming your way and a lot of guys are not ready for that so yeah it is it's a combination of a lot of things of why he failed i don't think you can pointto just one thing and say it was him or it's the organization. Just everybody failed overall in that entire situation.

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And I did like Scott's answer to what you can do to your chiefs fans say that we did beat him with Russell Wilson PERSON.

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So if you can't beat us with Russell Wilson PERSON, you're not a great team. Well, I mean, okay, you went a Super Bowl EVENT, but. What a bizarre year.

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Denver beats Kansas City, breaks that streak, and I would beat Josh Allen as well.

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I mean, team game still. In the end, especially small sample size. A lot of crazy stuff can happen.

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C. Dog comes in, it says, does Estimae have a chance to be running back one this season? Yeah, I think he does have a chance. He's young. Second youngest back in the class. He's a powerful runner, good vision. And last year, nobody on the Broncos ORG running back room took off. Now, I mean, my heart and I think it, obviously you have to give a shout out. And my heart goes out to Javanta Williams PERSON. It's a harsh league, right? It comes off that knee injury, bust his butt to get back out there. Doesn't look exactly the same last season. The yards after contact per attempt and the broken tackles just fell off a cliff. Not entirely his fault, but last year of his contract now, coming off a knee injury,it's a result-based business. They don't care your backstory or what you've gone through unless you get through and become elite. You know, then they love it. Then they love the story.

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But if you kind of fall off, then, you know,

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the NFL ORG machine just replaces you and spits you out.

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So I think Estimate definitely has a chance to be running back one.

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Right.

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And Javante wasn't a Sean Peyton PERSON pick. No. So he has no loyalty to that guy at this point. Pete Ryan was one, but they're not paying them a whole lot. No more guarantees. So he'd be easy to replace to.So yeah, I definitely think Estabay PERSON has a chance to go get it right as a rookie. Got Gary Palmer coming in with the $9.99 super saying, hi, hi, guys, just got here. I'll watch later. Thanks. Gary PERSON, thank you.Appreciate you. You tuning in here and hope when you listen later, you enjoy the show. But glad you were able to jump in here for just a second. later, you enjoy the show. But glad you were able to jump in here for just a second. So yeah, I agree. I think Estime PERSON, I think a couple of these rookies have some chances to really make an early impact. Ellis PERSON should get some plenty of snaps early on. I'm not sure how much of an impact he's going to make day one, especially after bringing inMyers PERSON and how they're going to run all the rotation for all the defensive line combined together. But still, he'll get plenty of snaps being a third rounder. Roy Franklin PERSON, I'm sure that they'll have some packages for him, trying to move him around the field, just using that athleticism, that speed to win over the top. You've talked about it before, explosive plays.Roy Franklin was one of the best big play receivers in college football last year. Yep.

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It was surprising to see him fall like he did. I mean, obviously not the best hands, rail thin. So there's some questions about the physicality. And going from the Pac-12 level of physicality to the NFL ORG is going to be interesting to see. But again, I expect him to be a wide receiver three, wide receiver four, and hopefully can get some explosives there. And somebody made a good point. I don't think it was on here.But with the CBA ORG, the way it is in the limited reps, getting somebody who has at least a little bit of chemistry already with bonex is is, uh, can only help, right? I mean, how much is it going to matter? Matters more if you're a good player or not.Uh, but, uh, it can only help. We got Adam PERSON coming in here, says greetings from Broncos ORG,number one fan in Australia GPE. Good to see you.

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I says I have not been more excited for the season as I am right now with Bo Nix PERSON at quarterback.

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You must be young at him because, man, I remember frothing at the mouth, uh, when Denver brought in Peyton Manning PERSON. But, you know, that's a different conversation for sure.But, yeah, I mean, I'm glad you're excited, Adam PERSON. And, you know, the excitement is, hopefully this is not the highest excitement ever is with Bonix PERSON. You know, it's kind of somebody, I think it was Andrew Mason PERSON talking with him. He said, like, what's the highest Broncos country ever was with Russell Wilson PERSON? And it's like probably the day they traded for him. And then after that, as soon as he got it on the field, it was like, uh-oh, maybe not.So hopefully this is, you know, we're just starting here and we get up there. Why not live in that world right now?

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We'll see what happens. I did want to say, I think the Broncos have two players from australia on their team now uh that tight end is it thomas yassman is that the one i think he's from australia and then they brought in a punter i can't remember that i think was was from australia i can't i think i know i know yesman is but i'm not sure on the punter anyway got phil coming in saying do you guys think they will move sanders to the outside i'm hoping not i think he plays much better inside i wouldsay after the ellis pick better chance that he stays stays inside um they're going to move him around

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just because he's that kind of player they're not going to say hey this is your spot right here

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you stay here every single play. They're going to use his ability to get after the quarterback, put him on the line sometimes, have a rush from off the ball. He's just going to be kind of that little bit of a joker player because he has that versatility to move around. Yeah, we'll see.

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I mean, the Broncos ORG linebacker spot, opposite of Alex Singleton PERSON, in my opinion, is wide open. And Drew Sanders, while he struggled there last season, especially early on in the Miami ORG game, struggled with the run fits, struggled the processing, the tackling.He also struggled at edge when they moved him there as well. A little better the last couple of games, but man, that Detroit ORG game was, I mean, if you did that on the street, it would be assault what penny Sewell did to Drew Sanders so I mean Penny Sewell PERSON different animal but I mean yeah I got paid you don't expect

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that level of dominance though on the NFL ORG field it looked like like a freshman going up against

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a guy who's got like a full ride to Alabama. It was it was not good.

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So a lot of opportunities at that linebacker spot opposite of Singleton PERSON.

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Drew Sanders, Jonas Griffith, Cody Barton PERSON, they did not pay a lot for him to come in.

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Justin, it's Stronaut PERSON's back too, I think, right?

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So, you know, it's the Joker PERSON breaking the pool queue kind of thing, you know, go get it.

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A lot of opportunity. We'll see. I do think there's more opportunity there for him inside than outside. He can be, you know, a versatile coverage edge piece, kind of like a Kyle Van Nuoy PERSON in theory. But that's not the best pathway for him, especially with what the Denver ORG's done with the rooms. Speaking of Australia, also, we got on Twitch, Rawblitz PRODUCT.Maybe this is more. He says, g'day, fellas. I saw NFL.com, bonex comparison to Tony Romo PERSON,care to make the connection. I think that, so what I think about this connection is that, I don't know if this was pre or post Broncos ORG connection, because obviously Sean Payton PERSON, offensive coordinator with the Cowboys ORG,but the solid athleticism, good frame, not an incredible arm, but good enough arm. And honestly, some of the fun plays, there's a little bit of magician there sometimes. You know, the pump fakes, the ability almost more arm talent shown sometimes out of pocket. So, and good enough, pretty good ball placement, too. So that's the one, I mean, the one I come back to is somewhere between Andy Dalton PERSON and Alex Smith PERSON.We'll see if that falls in the line. But yeah, Tony Romo PERSON is an interesting one for sure. Do you have any thoughts on this? I hadn't seen Tony Romo PERSON other than.

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Yeah, I mean. Yeah. Sean Payton had his time working with Tony Romo PERSON for a few years. So there's that connection there where he was a handpicked player by Sean Payton PERSON saying, hey, I think this kid could be something. And he didn't start for Sean Payton PERSON, if I remember right, but he helped build him up.And then when Sean Payton went off to the Saints ORG, all of a sudden now he became the starter for the Cowboys ORG and the rest is history. And now talent-wise, yeah, I think there is some decent comparison there. Like you said, all those kind of things. Tony Romo, when he was in college, highly productive guy, just like Bo Nix PERSON, talked about it with accuracy, got better as his college career went on, and good enough arm.I mean, Tony Romo PERSON never had the best arm by any means but it was good enough for sure and i remember broncos playing the cowboys and there's one play where he ran around made five guys miss and then threw for her first down and it was one of the most maddening plays as a bronco fan that i've watched was this tony romo. And Bo Nix PERSON has a little bit of that. I'm not sure he's quite that. He's a little bit more of a, hey, I'm going to take off running if I need to.More so than I'm going to dance around on some of this. He will do some dancing. More if you go back to his Auburn ORG tape, he did a lot more of that. So I think it is a decent comparison.

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And if Tony Romo is what he becomes, that should be exciting for Broncos ORG fans.

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Because Tony Romo PERSON was a very good quarterback. He had some very unlucky breaks and some, you know, I think of that field goal or extra point, whichever one it was, and he fumbled the snap and lost him the game when they should have won, those kind of things.But yeah, Tony Romo would be a fun player to see on the field for the Broncos ORG.

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Yeah, so, I mean, I don't know if you remember my ceiling comparison for Bo Nix PERSON, which is always, you know, fraught for a position like quarterback where it's so mental. But I thought if he can become Dak Prescott PERSON, that is probably somewhat the ceiling for him. And I mean, but I'm, that's a lofty comparison because I'm a very big Dak Prescott PERSON fan. I think he's top seven quarterback in the NFL ORG and maybe the best quick game quarterback in the league right now.So that Dak PERSON would be a heck of a get. If you can get Bo Nix PERSON, Dax level of play from Bo Nix. But we'll see. So bringing it back here, the final 10 minutes here, my expectations for for Bonix this season, he should be the starter out of the gate. Denver ORG doesn't have a lot in the way. I guess it's possible you have a purdy situation or something crazy whereZach Wilson PERSON comes in. It's like, oh, it clicked because Zach PERSON does have a heck of an arm. You know, the tools are there to do a lot of different stuff. But a large enough sample size at this point was Zach Wilson PERSON to say, probably not going to reach stardom. So wouldn't think to go that way.As Freer of Citizen talked about, Bill Belichick, Nick PERSON Saban talked about Nick's being one of the most ready quarterbacks in this draft class. It just, I can't imagine a scenario outside of injury where he isn't the starter day one.

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I know that some people talk about it's best to sit them. Elway had three seasons.

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A lot of these quarter, I mean, Carl, in the last, you know, 15 years, which is a very large sample size in the NFL ORG landscape, how many quarterbacks, you know, 16 starts in or 20 starts in, you don't know, you don't know who they are at that point. It's really Josh Allen or bust. And with how much Bo Nix PERSON has played already, you got to get him out there. You need to see what you have.So I'm not saying move on from him after year one. If he's, you know, mediocre, if you're like so bad that you're picking number one overall and you like Carson Beck PERSON, probably it's because Bo Nix PERSON wasn't very good. And then we can have that conversation or Dak Prescott PERSON or something like that. Really unique scenarios there for that to happen. But I expect day one starter.I expect middle of the pack. And I expect there to be some growing pains, but more so in the decision making. I think that I think he's good at the decision, but I think he throwing to windows and guys with the white hash marks in the Pac-12, ORG going to be different than the NFL with teams squeezing down on you a little bit. Some of the throws that he had, you know, was it only three interceptions last year?That's great. Some of his own ones, I'm like, that's probably a pick in the NFL ORG. I hope he doesn't test that one in the NFL ORG. But we'll see.

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We will see. Yeah. I mean, he is, he's smart enough to avoid a lot of bad decisions. I mean, I think he had the lowest interceptable passes of any or turnover worthy plays last year. And he doesn't fumble the football, which is great. Yes.

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That's going to be a nice adjustment from last year. Huge hands.

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Yeah, he's got very big hands. And we've got Lawrence Rivera coming in saying, what up, guys. I honestly will say I'll get behind whatever quarterback is starter. But the biggest downfall for all the newest quarterbacks that's there really good in the first few games because defenses don't figure them out. And once they do, that's whenever they get chased out the league because they can't adapt.Yeah, I mean, that is definitely true. I was thinking about that with Jonah Ellis. It wouldn't surprise me if in the first couple games, he gets a couple of sacks with that spin move. Catches a couple teams off guard, not ready for it. And then once teams adjusts that, he's got to figure out a second, third move to try to get offensive linemen off balanceand be able to go make some plays. It's going to be the same thing with Bow Nix PERSON. Teams are probably going to creep up more and more and dare him to beat them over the top consistently. And, I mean, that's going to be something he's got to prove. You know, last year, on deep throws, he did fine.He just didn't throw a whole lot of them. Yeah.

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And so part of that is teams weren't expecting when they did do it,

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that all of a sudden, guys were wide open running down the field. That won't be happening quite as much in the NFL ORG. There's still going to be a couple times. But for the most part, he's got to fit it into a few more tight windows. And like I said, there's going to be some things he's going to have to do to prove and push some teams back. I do expect the Broncos to lean very heavily into the run game to protect him. That's part of why you go getDelkeld back like Estime. You still got Giovante. P. Rhine PERSON, we'll see if he's going to still be here. You know, you're going to try to bruise those teams up and push the ball down that field, give him and then give Bo Nix opportunistic opportunities, where it's not third and 10, and he's having to sit there in the pocket, where it's third and three, and he can get the ball out quickly and make those quick decisions. So, you know, that's the, that's the path to success for this offense for his rookie season until he gets a lot more comfortable.And then you can start challenging a little bit more on first down, second down with the passing game.

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I mean, a lot of what is going to come down to early success for him is going to be the stuff that happens before the snap, Getting the plays in on time, getting to the right reads, the right run looks based on what the defense gives him. And I don't know how much power they're going to give him as far as audibling, but they give him a lot of power and leeway at Oregonto get them into the right look, the right fit, a lot of options. So I'm expecting a lot of, it's going to be earned over time, but the potential, a lot of options. So I'm expecting a lot of, it's going to be earned over time, but the potential for a lot of options stuff with Bonix and Sean Payton PERSON.I do think I did want to touch on this a little bit because a lot of people are talking about, you know, Russell Wilson being so drastically different than Bonix PERSON, and they are in a lot of ways. But there is one thing that stands out to me that, and it must still be driving Sean Peyton PERSON nuts because he mentioned it in the press conference. And it's something that I do have questions about with Bonix PERSON is the ability to hang in the pocket within structure and get through his reads. Something that a lot of times, and I think it was maybe a not a bug of the system, but just a reality of having somebody like a Russell Wilson where if like that first read wasn't there, check down.There's a reason that the Broncos running backs were getting crazy targets last season because it was half field deep, home runs not there. All right. We're throwing it behind the line of scrimmage. That keeps you out of negatives a lot, but man, does it limit your ability to hunt and create explosives? And Sean Payton, even in the press conference, talked about Bo PERSON needs to do a better job of getting through his reeds in the pocket.And that was something that drove me nuts watching Sean Payton PERSON. Didn't really like it with Bo Necks PERSON. Now, again, you have a very high floor when you do that because you're getting the ball out of your hands and your playmakers and good things can happen when you do that. But the quarterbacks who are elite, especially the cerebral pocketbound ones, they know how to manipulate those tight spaces, function in chaos,and get through their reeds still despite the chaos around them. And that's something that every once in a while watching Oregon ORG didn't happen too often, but when disadvantageous situations felt we saw a little bit of Auburn ORG Bonix come where he gets a little frantic.

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And he's not getting through his reads within structure.

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Still a young player, can improve a lot there, but that's my biggest thought. What similarities do you have? That's the one I'm worried about. And obviously, again, I think Sean Payton PERSON as well, because he mentioned it in the press conference immediately.

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And we got Michael Ronquillo PERSON coming in with some stars saying,

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great show tonight. Nick and Carl, I'm building the Broncos ORG.

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Go Broncos. Michael, thank you again for always being here every single night. I saw your family's coming in later this week. Hope you have a good time with them. And I appreciate everyone joining us here tonight. And I did see the punter. He is from Australia GPE. So I was right. We got two Australians. That'll be fun to see how that goes for the Broncos ORG. And maybe down the road, they'll have a game in Australia for the Broncos ORG.

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I wouldn't mind traveling there to go see a Broncos ORG game. That would be a lot of fun. I'd love to get out there, Australia, New Zealand GPE, anything like that. So Carl, you're with me, day one starter, Bonix PERSON. Relatively, I think unless the wheels fall off the freaking bus this season and you're with me, day one starter, Bo Nix. Relatively, I think unless the wheels fall off the freaking bus this season and you're picking one or two overall, and let's be real, I think the defense is probably going to be the biggestreason this team struggles this season, not the offense.

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But if you're sitting in that situation, you're picking one or two overall, odds are

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Knicks ORG had a lot to do with it.

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You're in the very least going to have to seriously evaluate the options in front of you. I don't think that's probable. I think that's kind of like talking like, let's say Zach Wilson PERSON all of a sudden is a superstar, you know, that kind of level of probability.You're probably talking about somewhere 20th best quarterback in the NFL next season, the 15th best quarterback in the NFL next season. That's good enough for a year one start. Year two then, you need to take a step up to that, you know, bump in your head or squarely in the top 10, especially in the AFC and big game hunting in the AFC Westwith Herbert and Mahomes PERSON. But that's my year one expectation, statistical output, you know, the advanced stats, PFF, whatever, EPA per play. That's what I'm looking for.

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No, yeah, definitely with you there. Like I said, they're going to do a lot of things to try to protect him to not have him get put into horrible situations. He's still going to have to go make some plays, obviously. But they'll lean into the run game. Sean Payton PERSON with his system, I mean, he really does a great job of scheming wide receivers open,and he just needs a quarterback that can take advantage of that. You know, Kyle Shanahan PERSON's that way, too. He can scheme guys open just because he's that better of a thinker than the guy across the field from calling the defense. So that'll lead to a lot of decent plays for the Broncos ORG, but you're right.What he can do when that doesn't work, when the Sean Payton PERSON play isn't right, can he get to that second read, can he get to a better advantageous situation? I remember I was watching one play that he did do well. It was one where the first two reads ended up covered. And the third read was one where it was a deep, deep crosser. And he ended up having to escape the pocket because the right tackle lost horribly.And then he made this incredible throw to the sideline, you know, those kind of plays. Like he's going to have to have some of those to really take that leap to that place that Broncos need him to be for a team to be successful this next season. And then they can start really building the weapons around him once they get to that kind of point where, like you said, year two, round one, wide receiver, probably not out of the question.I know we've topped some offensive tackle, edge. I mean, those are going to be important positions, but it also wouldn't be surprised to see the Broncos say, hey, we're going to keep here Bowles around for a couple more years. We're going to really target one of these top wide receivers because there's a couple wide receivers I've already got my eye on for this upcoming season. And we're not going to get into 2025 draft stuff here yet too much.But like I said, that could be a possibility to really help your young quarterback then take that next step. But yeah, I expect decent things. I'm really not as worried, like I said, about the offense as I am the defense. That defense has some major holes. I need to see what can they do without Josie Jewel and Justice Simmons,really getting everybody in the right spot. And I hate to bring this game up. But the Miami game is when Justin Simmons and Josie Jewel PERSON missed. Now you had a rookie stepping in and there are two young players, a second year player and a first year player stepping in for them. And so that's going to lead to some bad things.But still, like who's going to be those next people to step up? Only time will tell.

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Only time we tell. Same with Bo Nix PERSON. But like we said, we expect him to be the day one starter. One final thing here, Carl. What would it mean to you if Bo Nix PERSON does not win the day one starting spot how many red flag sirens would be going off for you would that change your expectation for him in his career in Denver not beating out Zach Wilson and Jared PERSON's did

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him it wouldn't be quite the nuclear plant red sirens going off and everybody panic and run. But it would definitely be pretty worrisome because there's just not a whole lot of competition. And he should be NFL ORG ready. Like if there's a guy, 61 starts in college, handpicked by this coach. He's got a leg up already in this competition. Like Sean Payton PERSON wants him to win it.So he's got to do a lot of bad things. Like if it's close, Bowdox PERSON will get the start. He's got to really blow it for the Broncos ORG not to give him the job.

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Yeah. I'm with you. Hopefully it works out. Peter Middleton PERSON. Good to see it. Peter says good point. Carl PERSON. Always hope you're doing well, Peter, wherever you're at these days out. Peter Middleton. Good to see you, Peter. This is a good point, Carl. Always hope you're doing well, Peter, wherever you're at these days.Thank you guys so much to join us today. Make sure you're following Carl PERSON on Twitter. Carl is at Carl Dumbler PERSON, MHHH. I'm at Nick Kendall, MHHHHHL, also follow us at Mile High Huddle. If you haven't done so yet, join us at Facebook.com forward slash Mile High Huddle. And Facebook.com forward slash Mile High Huddl Pod.As that ticker says there underneath please subscribe like and share uh want to say thanks to all our stars on the way out david mcclraft kenneth booker a few times as well david kumello of course michael ronkeo phil mclaughlin a few times troy boer dennis woods gary palmer lawrence rvera and michael PERSON of course again closing us out you guys are great. Thank you so much.It's always a lot of fun. Again, happy birthday to Carl PERSON on the way out.

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I didn't bust out the violin to play for you. I don't know how the mic would pick that up. But I appreciate everyone.

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I hope you guys have a great rest of your day. Continue to choose kindness and compassion. And as always, go Broncos ORG.

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