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On today's show, another crossover with Nick from Locked-on Mavs talking about the first two games. What has surprised us the most so far in the series, and what are the keys for games three and four? Clippers, Mavs ORG, right in the thick of it, the shift scenes to Dallas ORG, and we're talking about it all on today's. Lockdown Clippers ORG.You are Locked on Clippers.

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All right, welcome in Nick Engstead from Lockdown Mavs ORG here, and Darien Viziri locked on Clippers ORG crossing over again. Crossover once, crossover twice. Hezzi PERSON, end of the shot. Daring Vizeri, what you got for me today, man?

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Oh, man, Nick, first two games. I think they went kind of how he expected in terms of the result. One-one split going back to Dallas ORG. Very competitive. And right now, Mavs ORG have a little bit of an upper hand taking home court advantage. But I got confidence in my guys to come take one in Dallas ORG and bring it back at leasttwo to coming back home.

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Yeah, Daryon PERSON refers to the team as we. I would like to just point that out to everybody, to everybody that may be listening for the first time. But he comes by it honestly, because if there's going to be somebody to claim the Clippers ORG, I guess it's either Clipper Darrell PERSON or him to claim it. I also have to say that after I saw you after game one EVENT,that was maybe the most excited I've ever seen a person after one single win of a basketball game that wasn't like the finals. You were like so excited

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out of that game dude i'm seeing you for the first time in my life and my boy davo who's in from birmingham as a YouTuber and i see you both at the same time after a game one win and i you know i had some alcohol and stuff i was on top of the world i was on top of the world. You were like, oh, you, oh, you're like going back to point.

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I was dying. It was amazing. But Darna Vizeri, let's get into this. Mavs, Clippers ORG. You talked about it, you said it. Split it, not necessarily in the way that you thought, which is classic NBA ORG playoffs, where you're like, oh, I expect this to happen. Maybe they'll split it in L.A., but not the one that Kauai doesn't play, the Clippers ORG win. The one that he does play. Clippers win. Let's start with something that was different than you expected. I'm going to, I'm going to start first here. Something that was different than what I expected. My take on the, on the show two days ago, I think Kauai PERSON actually made the Clippersa little worse. And let me explain. I think he made their offense a little bit more predictable for the Mavericks ORG and a lot slower. It was, they were way more methodical trying to get into their offense. And of course, that's what Kauai Leonard PERSON does. But I think it made it easier for the Mavericks ORG to defend that instead of the, the Mavericks ORG really struggle with, you know, we've got to catch up to the passes.You swing, swing, swing, pass all around, pick and roll, have to decide, make a decision, like follow the ball, all that kind of stuff. They struggle with that kind of stuff. Whereas if Kauai's just going to pound the rock, pound the rock, get into a shot, they can defend that a lot easier. Paul George kind of got into that. James Harden felt like got into that in game two, and I thought that was a big change for the Mavericks ORG.

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Yeah, I totally agree in the sense that the Clippers played slower with Kauai PERSON. It felt like at times, and a lot of fans that I talked to at the game said this, that it felt like we were trying to kind of force feed him to get him back going again, and it may have taken shot attempts away from Paul George PERSON, and it did stagnate and slowed down the offense,and it was clear that Kauai PERSON wasn't at his best or 100%, but here's the thing. You'd rather have him wear off that rust earlier sooner than later because at the end of the day, I am not one of those Clipper ORG fans that believes that the Clippers could win the series without Kawhi PERSON.I think that was an amazing first game. I think to an extent caught the Mavericks ORG off guard, got some great performances by Hardin PERSON. Zubat PERSON's best playoff given of his entire career. Paul George PERSON was just good, not even spectacular. And the Clippers ORG got the job done.But yeah, I definitely agree. You know, trying to get Kauai PERSON back into things, it was an adjustment period. But my hope is that he wears off that rust and hopefully by games four, five, six. And towards the end, we get that Kauaithat Mavericks ORG fans love to hate, I would assume, to say, I guess.

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What did you take from, so the whole experience, I went over it on my show, but for your audience and others that are joining. They reported that Kauai Leonard PERSON was going to be a game time decision. Woj ORG came out and had that big report that he was going to be a game time decision.He was going to warm up and they were going to see what was going to happen. And so then Kauai PERSON starts warming up and I walk out there and I was like, all right, let me watch Kauai PERSON warm up. And so I'm sitting there watching Kauai PERSON warm up. I'm like 10 feet from him and watching his knee like, like a weirdo, staring at this dude's knee. It's one of the weirdest things when you're like trying to watch a guy to see how he isafter an injury. You're just like staring at a guy's leg. But I'm watching him. It doesn't seem like he wants to land on that leg. He's not really doing anything in game speed or anything like that. And then I get the tweet notification that Ty Lou has said that Kauai Lennar PERSON's gonna play and I'm looking at Kauai Leonard PERSON on the court still warming up.Like he hadn't even gone and talked to anybody or told anybody. It was clear that they were gonna, that he was gonna play. And it wasn't a game time decision. It wasn't like they were gonna evaluate him after that.But then Kailu PERSON also said that he hadn't gone through contact yet, or at least that's what he said publicly, which I don't know what to believe anymore on the Clippers. All the Clippers media people that I talked to this weekend, like they don't know what to think about it either. But what did you think about the whole process of it and Kauai PERSON maybe not taking contact and just like jumping back into the game? Yeah, Kauai PERSON said after the game that he was

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just looking to get back on the court, just trying to get himself healthy enough to play a basketball game Yeah, he did, but it was clear that he hadn't played in a while I mean the fact that he hadn't played in contact practice full speed five on five That is definitely not the way you know not ideal for your best player to walk into a playoff series and that's exactly why When you have injuries and have to work a guy back it's really not ideal for it to happen during the playoffs and you know you see with the New Orleans Pelicans ORG also like BrandonIngram coming back just right before the playoffs he hasn't really looked himself either so you know a couple years ago in the Warriors ORG won that championship and Steph Curry PERSON came was injured and came back in the first round coming off the bench the difference was they were playing a Denver Nuggets team without Jamal Murray PERSON so they had room to integrate him back They were so much better that they were able to have Steph Curry at say 70% and get away with it This Dallas Clippers series this is gonna be a dog fight. This is gonna be a war so the clippers don't really have the room toTo work Kauai PERSON back and as you said, you know it kind of hurt us but at the same time I would much rather it be game two than a game five so yeah, I mean it's not ideal. It's just a matter of how long is it going to take for the Clippers to see Kauai Leonard PERSON be Kauai Leonard again? And that'll definitely change the outcome or change things for the Clippers ORG, for sure.

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And kind of on the Maverick ORG side of it, something that was a little different than I expected. I don't know that we've seen like, like top tier Luca PERSON yet, just yet, especially playmaking-wise. Like, I don't know that we've seen that player just yet in this series. And he's hit a couple of huge shots, obviously. But the difference in some of these games in a rock fight like that is maybe like three shots. And Luca made all three of the shots that he needed to for sure.But yeah, I don't think we've seen that that top tier level, definitely of playmaking Luca PERSON, of shooting Luca, yeah, definitely in game one, he didn't shoot that well. But I think that's something that's different than I expected is we haven't seen that version of Luca PERSON yet. From your angle of it, do you think that's more, I'll give this one, I'll throw this one up to you. Do you think this is more of Clippers defense or do you think this is just Luca PERSON missing shots?

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Definitely a cop-out response, but a little bit of both. I mean, I think the Clippers ORG, we've done a pretty good job. I think Terrence Mann and Paul George PERSON, when he's been called upon, and even Kauai to start game two did a pretty good job on Luca PERSON. And the hope is that Luca PERSON settles for jump shots, because in game one, especially in the first half,I thought Kyrie and Luca PERSON were settling for so many contested jump shots. Absolutely. Yeah, and that definitely plays into the Clippers ORG' hands. Of course, Luca PERSON's so incredible with that stepback. But it's kind of one of those shots, whereas the defense, it's a stepback three and it's contested. It's the shot you would probably want a guy to take.You're just going to have to put your hand up and hope for the best. And I think the Clippers ORG have done a pretty good job overall on him. But at the same time, it is Luca Donchich. He makes those shots for a living, leading score in the NBA. It is a matter of time before we see a Luca Donchich flurry. I'm just hoping on the clipper's side, we could see a Kawhi Leonard flurry as well. So it's inevitable that Lucas PERSON, I think it's going to be one of these two games in Dallas ORG. He's going to have a game where he just goes pretty nuclear.But we've seen in the past that just Luca Dantzich going nuclear does not guarantee a Dallas Maverick ORG win. However, now you have a much better supporting cast around it, so we will see how it goes. I still have the confidence in the Clippers team that even if Luca Donchich does have a 40-point game that we could still pull out the win. And my major confidence in that respect is that I just think the supporting cast for the Clippers, like let's say you take Luca and Kyrie and then Paul George and Kauai PERSON, as improved as supporting castes for Dallas, I still think the Clippers ORG have an advantage.

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It definitely is, yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah, that's definitely been their advantage.

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Like those others, they have to be a lot better than the Mavericks ORG others. And then the Mavericks ORG stars have to outplay the Clipper Star. That's like the whole, that's the whole formula for both teams, I think, in this one. The thing about Luca so far is I feel like he, in that 14-0 run at the, in the fourth quarter, I've gone back, I've watched that like three times now for, for different reasons. But it felt like he finally got into, all right, I'm going to post up, and I want to pick itapart. I'm going to pick this apart, and I'm going to, I'm going to throw to the right guys, and guys started hitting shots too, which definitely helped helped PJ hit a big three maxi hit a big three. Luca PERSON got fouled on a play that I don't I don't know if it was necessarily a foul. I don't know if you and I want to get into how weird the ref thing has been in the first two games of the series but I feel like Luca PERSON finally got into that where before that run and before even this game I thought that his decision making was kind of was kind of odd at times and he keeps hunting the James Hardin PERSON matchup, which has not been like thatgreat of a matchup for him. There's even a play in the fourth quarter of game two where he had Norman Powell on him. And I was like, oh, attack, attack, like go after him. Do the Iron Man PERSON thing. Attack. You know, like, that's your plan. And instead, he calls Kyrie PERSON over and then Kyrie has hardened on him and he gets that switch and goes there. What have you thought about like, let's just specifically the Hardin matchup on on Luca PERSON so far?

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So that's something that we talked about a lot, like who Ty Lou is going to allow to switch on a Luca PERSON. And I talked about it in the pod after game two on locked on clips is that I think James has actually held his own in those one-on-one matchups for the most part. I think it's more like off ball. And then I remember in the fourth quarter, two offensive rebounds for the Mavs were a result of James Hardin PERSON kind of falling asleep or not boxing out his man. But the thing about the Hardin PERSON matchup that kind of concerns me is,while he has held his own one-on-one, there's a natural instinct from the Clipper ORG players that's like, oh, Hardin PERSON on an island against Luca PERSON, let's send help. As you saw, that play that Westbrook PERSON helped when some argue he shouldn't have because Luca, as you said, wasn't necessarily abusing Hardin PERSON. He helps off Kyrie Irving one pass away, no rotation from Kauai Leonard PERSON at the top, andKyrie's wide open for three. And I was just like, oh my God, like that was just so easy for them. So it's going to be interesting to see if James Harden PERSON can continue to play solid defense against Luca PERSON. But I would not be surprised if the Mavericks ORG just keep going to it and see if they can just wear James Hardin PERSON down.But you're right, Norman Powell PERSON should be attacked as well. And I think PJ Washington, part of what got him going in the fourth, he went to the basket on Norm PERSON, hard left, stopped on a dime and put up that little bank shot floater. Then he made his next three. And PJ was missing Chippies ORG before that. So it really got him going.

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Go comment on Lockdown Clippers, go Mavs ORG. And go comment on Lockdown Mavs, go Clippers ORG. Let's do that. Be funny if a bunch of Mavs fans commented, go Clippers ORG. Just because on there. Also check out our 24-7 streaming channel Lockdown Sports Today on YouTube and Amazon Fire TV PRODUCT.They have all kinds of great stuff. They have locked on L.A. GPE, Locked on Sports, L.A. GPE, if you're interested in any of the L.A. Teams. Also, Lockdown Sports Dallas ORG. Killing the game. We're on top of it. We're on top of it right now.Both of our cities. All right, Daryan PERSON, let's talk about some more things that were different than what we expected. I want to talk about Zubots PERSON because he was different than what I expected. And you tried to warn me.He's older, he's me. He's older. He's better. He's grown. He's, you know, more mature. He's learned. But to see him three plays in a row to start the game in game one, go right at Gafford PERSON and to score right on him.I mean, I was surprised. Were you surprised even a little, like that they just went straight to him that he scored on him all those possessions? Yes.

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I'm very surprised. Because I said that Tailu PERSON and so many clipper fans have been calling for for this it's funny those zoobots is such a you know polarizing figure among clipper fans not the actual clipper fans that attend games like the online crowd there's some people that think zoobots PERSON is just not a starting center and all this stuff and then there's a lot of them that think he's great. So one of the people that think he's great have had an issue with Tailu PERSON not throwing him the ball enough throughout his career because the guy has touch around the basket.It's so obvious. He's had that sense that he was on the Laker ORG.

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Right.

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And he's only improved. And now he has a left-hand jump hook. He used to never be able to turn over the right shoulder, ever. So now that he has that, you think we feed him the ball more and we've started two towards the end of the season. That was the first time in the playoffs where we really said, Zhu PERSON, go get buckets. And I think it was awesome because I talked about it on the previews.I don't think with you, but I said that Gafford PERSON, I've seen that he can protect the rim better than some of the guys that Dallas has had in the past. But I watched your game against the Kings ORG. And Sabonis PERSON was kind of, you know, not dominating, but having his way in the low post. So I was saying, okay, maybe Zubots can take advantage of Gafford PERSON as a post defender. And you saw that it was happening. So really happy for Zoo ORG.And Gafford, in me, in my opinion, these first two games has kind of been a non-factor.

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I thought Lively PERSON was a lot better last game yeah even before this series i i thought that lively would be better he's been better on those bigger type of bigs your yonis valentunus is you know your zubots is um other european centers i'm yokech he was he was better on yokech than gafford

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was for as good as you can be on Yokch PRODUCT. But yeah,

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lively has been, so far has been better on those guys this season. And so I thought that this would be more of a lively series than a Gaffert series. I did not think that Gafford PERSON would look like not an NBA player at times in this series. Now he had the injury where Paul George PERSON, you know, had the little, had the little like the forearm shiver on on him. And he fell down and hurt his lower back and his ankle. And he's had those kind of injuries in this. And so I'm curious what he looks like in game three.But I'm also, I'm also, I also wouldn't be surprised if kid decides to start lively. That was one of my changes they should have made after game one. And they went with lively for more minutes. But I think that lively just plays Zubat PERSON's better, and I think that's a better matchup for him.

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And so, yeah, I think both sides of the big man conversation

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are different than what we expected. Yeah, absolutely. I think what was interesting, too, was after the two fouls in game two, the clippers never really looked to get Zubots PERSON going in the post for the rest of the game. And that was something that a lot of Clipper ORG fans took issue with, you know, trying to force feed Kauai instead of throwing it down a zoo. Then there was one possession where James Hardin PERSON took a step back three when Zoo was in the post against Luca after Luca. I just picked up his third foul. I know there was only five on the shot clock, but Harden, four on the shot clock to work in thepost. I think that's enough time for Zhu to maybe get a good look off. And Hardin PERSON was not shooting well from three. So that possession like really angered me at the game. But I would hope that we look to get Zhu more involved again in the low post in game three. And I think we talked so much about if Zubots PERSON gets played off the floor, what are the Clippers ORG going to do? So far through two games, absolutely is not.

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Yeah, what he's played, he's played through two games. He's played 33.3 minutes combined, like for the two games. And that's fourth on the team. Well, he's been out there. They have not like played him off the floor yet. And I think it's a testament to the Clippers ORG.I think it's a testament to a couple of things. I think the Mavericks have less shooting than they did the last time of these two teams faced in the playoffs. And I think that lack of like spacing and lack of real, real outside threats has affected it a little bit more than maybe we thought it would. And then the Clippers ORG defense is just really connected.And they can cover for a lot of those issues and things. And so, yeah, they've come over with help when Zubots PERSON gets stuck one-on-one. There's been a lot of things like that where, yeah, the big man conversation has been a lot different. What's something that's been different than what you expected so far?

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I didn't think James Hardin would have 20 plus points in the first two games. He's actually struggled to hit 20 plus or the last two months or so, like during the slump the clippers have had. And we talked about what's the biggest difference between the clippers rolling earlier in the season and then the slump. A lot of it was James Hardin PERSON. So the fact that he, and he started to, I mentioned this in the crossovers, but last two, three weeks of the season, he was starting to get his jumper back. And I said this before we even got Hardin PERSON, a lot of his scoring is going to come down to if he can hit the step back three. Because if therewas a lot of possessions in game two that were horrible process where the Mavs were locking up Hardin PERSON for the whole shot clock, then at the end of the shot clock, he would either make a shot or get fouled. And I'm not going to lie, just being unbiased and some of the Clipper fans, the Hardin PERSON's going to hate that I say this. But I was with my friend, man, and he's a Clipper ORG like, L.A. fan that's going to root for the clippers, but he wasn't necessarily a Clipper fan. And we're looking at each other,like, how does he get these calls? I'm like, I'm happy it's on my side, but it's like,

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how does he get these calls? Maxie won from game one was so infuriing to me, where Hardin kicks his leg to the side, like to the left. And Maxi flies, I, like, I could not believe kid, first of all, didn't challenge the call. I think he's holding onto it. And it worked in the second game when he held on to that challenge for the Kauai Kyrie one. But man, yeah, some of these calls have been just so tiki-dye. But Hardin PERSON's made a career out of that. Like he's just so good at it. That's what he's been so good at his whole

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career. Yeah, every time he shoots a three that's contested, I think there's going to be a whistle. Or he tries to get the foul every time he shoots a contest at three, which can be annoying at times when it doesn't work out for him, but he is the all-time leader in four-point plays. So as you said, he has made a career out of that. He, you have to contest him, and he does end up drawing contact a lot of the time. But that's been one of my biggest surprises that James Hardin's PERSON scoring has been right wherethe clippers needed to be. I think the 25 point per game average and people saying, oh, Hardin's been one of my biggest surprises is that James Hardin's scoring has been right where the clippers needed to be. I think the 25 point per game average and people saying, oh, Hardin PERSON's been the best clipper in the series. Like, okay, sure, but it's one, one. And to me, he had one great game and one not so great game where the stats look better than the actuality of it.I think you mentioned Kauai Leonard PERSON slowing things down. Hardin was really ball pounding and it was a lot of stagnant possessions in game two, especially the end of the second quarter where Hardin PERSON was scoring, but again, I was looking at my friend and we were talking about it. The process was not great. So I wasn't feeling too good about it. And right now the math, like let's be honest, the Mavs are in the favorable situation going home for two games. It's not like the Clippers ORG. Like you should start bragging about who's been the best player when we're split the firsttwo games. I think that's just a lot of You know individual agendas whereas I'm looking at we got to take one of these games doesn't matter who's been the best player through two games

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We're one one we got to get one back here the Mab's offensive rating in both games was the exact same 105.5 which is

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The Mazz have had worse offensive games the last couple of months when they've been really good. And they found ways to win those games. But yeah, their offense has been a lot worse than it normally has. But coming up, let's talk about our keys to games three and four. What are things that we think our teams need to do to win these games? We'll talk about that and more coming up.Today's episode is brought to you by LinkedIn ORG. LinkedIn ORG jobs helps we find the qualified candidates you want to talk to faster. If you're a small business owner, we know that you've got to have a bunch of different hats. You've got a lot of things going on. You've got to take money to this bank and do this. And you've got to, I don't know, what else do you do as a small business owner?You got to hire people, that's for sure. And LinkedIn ORG jobs will help you do that. You know that 70% of LinkedIn ORG users don't visit other leading job sites. They just use LinkedIn ORG. So if you're not looking on LinkedIn ORG, you're looking in the wrong place. On LinkedIn, 86% of small business owners get a qualified candidate within 24 hours.It's not a long time. Hire professionals like a professional on LinkedIn ORG. Post your job for free at LinkedIn.com slash lockdown MBA. That's LinkedIn.com slash lockdown MBA to post your job for free. Terms and conditions do apply.

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All right, Darien, let's talk about the keys to games three and four back in Dallas in the AAC ORG. Where we'll see a playoff atmosphere. I love it. I love a playoff atmosphere. Especially, like, if you go to, if you're ever able to go to every single game of the season, and then you get to go to the playoffs,the difference between the two is just insane to be able to feel how it is. The intensity of game two, I thought, felt like, it felt like a game seven, or if it felt like really, really intense, I thought, compared to some of the other playoff games I've been to even. Yeah.

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I mean, playoffs are just a different level. There was a period of time during Lob City EVENT where, you know, this is when I didn't, I was in high school, so I wasn't making money like that. I was like, you know what, we're just going to save our money for the playoffs. We're going to go to every playoff game, but we're not going to go to any regular season games. So like in the 2015 season, it was the only season out of all my 19 years of fandomdidn't go to one regular season game and i went to all the playoff games except for two and yeah it was

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an amazing experience you know seeing the clippers knock off san antonio i know dallas GPE fans will

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like that so oh we do they appreciate that for sure uh you also insinuated that you didn't

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have the money like that then that means that now you do have the money like that. So congrats. Well, the money,

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the clipper tickets aren't that expensive. So we'll go with it. That's true. That's true.

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All right. Let's get into a couple of our keys to game to game three and four. What are the things

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that the Clippers need to do to come back and win game three? Well, it starts with the stars.

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I think I talked about it at at length in the last

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pod. The Clippers, Big Three, Paul, Kauai PERSON, James Hardin just wasn't good enough. Let's see if Kauai has more of his legs back, a little bit of a rhythm back, and looks sharper offensively. I think defensively he still looked pretty good. You know, hands in the passing lanes. I think he had four

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steals. Anytime somebody drives right into Kauai Leonard PERSON, I'm like, why? Why are you doing that? Don't do that. Don't try. Daniel Gaffer, don't drive right into Kauai Leonard PERSON. Why are we doing this?

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It's amazing. Every time there's like a 50-50 ball and Kauai PERSON's hands are around it, I just, I think he's going to get it every single time because he just has such insane hands. So that would be my thing. Paul George PERSON, in my opinion, has to be more aggressive trying to go to the basket. I get it.

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Derek Jones PERSON is a good defender, perfect-sized guy to throw at him.

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But I think the clipper should look to try to get Luca Donchish and Kyrie Irving guarding Paul George PERSON. I don't think we've tried to hunt them with Paul George PERSON enough.

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And Paul right now, if Kauai is not 100%,

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he is our best score. He was on a heater to end the season. Got to look to get him going. And also Paul George PERSON, there were so many times, and he does this all the time, where he'll get the step on his defender. And then he's so obsessed with the snatchback, which he's so great at.But sometimes it's unnecessary where he's allowing the defender to recover. And that really kills your advantage. So he's just got to be a little bit smarter, a little more efficient, waste less movement, waste less dribbles. But that's the thing with Paul George PERSON. That's when you get the negative Paul George PERSON, it's a lot of that. So that's what makes him such an interesting player to have and also a very frustrating star player to havebecause when he's at his best, you're like, Jesus Christ PERSON, this guy is one of the most unbelievable players you can see. But he also makes it very frustrating at times. So that, and then i say establishing zoom more again and then my last key would be more russell westbrook you you keep

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talking about getting the maps defense on their heels pushing the pace of it yep you saw one of the

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runs the clippers made in that second half of game too was rusk coming to the game and we finally

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got a transition three with paul george like we we can do this a little bit with Russ PERSON.

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That was one of my things before the series is like I think Westbrook PERSON is going to have,

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like it's going to be a weird conundrum for Ty Lou is that Westbrook PERSON does the things that the Maverick ORG struggle with. But can he keep Westbrook PERSON with the other guys on the court long enough for him to be impactful like that? And we saw him in the first game hit a couple threes and not hit them in the second game. And so we've seen both sides of Russ PERSON here. And we've seen him be a pest in so manydifferent ways, too. Oh, the lob that he caught in game two, or was it was a game one?

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Game one. It was game one because Tim PERSON was still in the game because Tim just completely lost him. But yeah, things like that. The Mavs can just get lost on some of those. For the Maverick ORG side

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of things, I think the keys are, man, Luca PERSON and Kyrie have to exert as much energy as they did in game two to be that intense, to play defense the way that they did. I mean, the big story that everyone has talked about is that Luca PERSON said no more help defense. Like, don't come up and help me on defense. I can hold my own in these matchups and then everybody else can fall into place. That really worked in game two. He's got to, but he put, it has to exert a lot of energy to do thatbecause he's getting hunted and they're doing it over and over and over again. It's almost like he's the only one playing basketball when they do that sometimes because he's the one guarding on one end and then he has the ball on the other at him.He's just a lot to put on one guy, but he has to do that. Kyrie PERSON has to do that. I would love to see a little Kyrie PERSON run like we saw in game one, but in a game where they hadn't scored eight points in the second quarter,like that kind of a run from Kyrie PERSON. So I'd like to see that as well. And then they've got to pray to the basketball gods, that the role players play better at home thing is true, right? A Gafford PERSON, it would be great to see that. Derek Jones Jr. shooting from three would be great to see that.Maxis hit a couple, but to see Maxie hit a couple of threes. And then I think the real key one that I talked about with Dana Larson yesterday is Dante Exum PERSON. Because if they need some more offense, again, 105.5 offensive rating in both of the first two games. If they could, Dante Exum and Luca and Kyrie PERSON, when they're on the floor together, the offensive rating has been like 136. It's been like amazing to see those three guys together. And so if they can get Dante XM PERSON going a little bit more,if he finally settles in and at home as a role player, he settles into some offense and contributes in some ways, I think they'd be really, really good for the Mavericks ORG.

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You know, going back to the what's different than expected, one thing that has really surprised me, actually two. One of them was, even though we've talked about Lucas' improvement defensively this year, that was impressive to see him stand up to the task like that at the end of the game. I mean, got to give him credit. And then Maxi Kleba, this is a guy who I talked about with Mabst fans last year,it sounded like he was cooked, like just injured all the time. And then now he was back. And to me, that small ball five putting Maxie Kleba PERSON in, it really changed the game. And we talked about it at length, the Mavs ORG small ball stuff right now, the small ball lineups are superior to the Clipper's small ball lineups this season. And I think Maxi Kleba PERSON, you know, not only is he a pretty versatile defender.He made that huge three at the end. But so when Maxi's out there, you're not targeting the five in the pick and roll. We started targeting Luca PERSON. And he stood up to the test. And there was a clip that was trending on Twitter of Luca PERSON. I don't know if you saw it, Luca locking up Kawhi Leonard PERSON on the right hand side of the court.Yeah. And there was a lot of people talking about, oh, man, it's just because Maxie Kleibah PERSON pulled over and helped the spacing and all that is so bad and this is my counter It was but here's the problem that was a five out small ball unit that's supposed to space the floor and you're talking about spacing So that's telling me that your execution is completely poor and also Norman Powell cleared the entire right side for Kauai PERSON to go baseline and Kauai just hung with the ball and it allowed Maxie Kleeva PERSON to pull over and then people are taking screenshots when Maxi Kleeva PERSON pulled over it's like this is the playoffs every dribble counts themargin for errors thin you're playing against a good defense and I think this doesn't apply to me but one thing that's different than Klipper PERSON fans expected is they just didn't seem to listen when people were talking about the Mavs ORG defense has improved like PJ Washington was playing amazing defense and I've been hearing this from MAVS fans, but I've also been watching the games. I hope he's not going to like do that well on Kauai PERSON when Kauai gets his legs back. But I mean, come on. He was standing up to the task. Got to give credit words due.

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Absolutely. Maxi, you mentioned Maxie. His season has been so weird. So yes, last year he did not look like the same guy. They had to end the season with him, like starting at the five a lot. It was like him, Bullock PERSON, and Josh Green were the starting front court. Like going from them to the starting front court they have now, it's such a big improvement. But Maxey plays the first three games. Then in the fourth game of the season, he gets hurt. And it's like a weird toe injury. And so he's out for three games.Then he comes back for a game at home against Toronto. And then he like a weird toe injury. And so he's out for three games. Then he comes back for a game at home against Toronto. And then he misses like three months after that with a dislocated toe. And you're just like, what is happening? Did he lose the toe? Does he still have all 10 toes? Like, didn't, couldn't figure out what's happening. So then he comes back for a couple, couple of weeks. And then they make the trades. And his defense just completely changed and went back to the maxi that we're used to and his offense hadn't hasn't really been that great this season his three point shot isn't hitting the same way that it that it has definitely that itwas in the playoffs two years ago but yeah his season has been so weird and his defense really coming on strong has really allowed the mavericks to be better and that smaller ball unit to be better as well too and that's i think has been a big difference between the two teams but there you go you want to make a prediction do you want to you want to predict is that are you in the business of predictions for game three EVENT or just the series overall

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game three game three i'm going to say the clippers bounced back i think after that terrible shooting game that we had i think we're due for a good shooting game i would hope to three start falling we haven't talked about norman powell at, but this is a guy that was one of the best six men in the NBA this year. Mavericks ORG has done a good job of staying home on him and not getting him too many open shots, but Norm PERSON's a shot maker.I think he's bound to have one of these two games in Dallas ORG. He's going to have like a 15 plus point game. And hopefully that will be enough to get us over the hump. I think the biggest adjustment for the Clippers ORG is you've got to make the Mavericks defense get into rotation. Like you have to create advantages offensively.You know, you look at the three-point shooting and some Clipper ORG fans are saying we miss shots, but a lot of it's because I think the Mavericks ORG didn't allow too many open looks. And that comes from, as we talked about, Luca staying in front and James Hardin PERSON not looking as quick and settling. And Paul George snatching it back and not causing two to come onto the ball. So it comes down to the stars of the clippers, creating advantages by making the Mavericks ORG help,and that will allow the open threes. But if the Maver ORG's going to stay solid one-on-one defensively, then the Clippers ORG aren't going to get the open threes that they're so good at hitting. But yes, my prediction is we're going to win game three, and we're going to go back to Dallas-2-2, and I still got Clippers in seven for the series.Everybody was saying I didn't push back enough on you in the previews and stuff. All right, guys, this is for you. Clippers and seven. I'm still standing on a team, you know, 10 toad.

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And I said Mavs in six. Yeah. I said Mavs in six. So it's not like I was like Mab Sweep PRODUCT or, you know, anything like that. Mavs and three I've been saying in my comment section. When Kauai was out, I was like Mavs in three.Let's go. On Fandul, Mavs are a four and a half point favorite for game three. I think they cover that. I think it's a five or six point game that the Mabbs ORG win by. I think they do get some contributions from the role players finally. I think they play better at home.And I think we get out like some kind of vintage Luka PERSON game. Vintage Luka, he's like 25. We get a vintage Luka PERSON game in that. And that's what I'm predicting. Classic, the two hosts would predict their own team to win each game.

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But let us know in the comment section what you think. Go comment, Go Mavs on the Clippers ORG channel. Go comment, go Clippers on the, oh, with the Go Clippers ORG thing.

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Go Clips ORG, go. That's their thing. They own this.

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I don't like it. It's like saying that's what she said. Like, no, Steve Corel PERSON owns that. He does. That is this first thing.

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I know Go Kings go, though, for the LA Kings ORG.

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There you go.

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All right, all right, all right.

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All right, there you go.

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