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This is an AMI ORG podcast. I'm Kelly McDonald PERSON.

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I'm Ramea Amad, and this is Kelly and Rumiya PERSON. Live from the Accessible Media Studios, this is Kelly and Rumia PERSON.

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Entertainment, Lifestyle, and great conversation. It's AMI ORG's on-air community, and everyone's invited.

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Thanks for being with us. Welcome back to this edition, Wednesday. As a matter of fact, to be precise, of Kelly and Rumia, wherever you are listening in around the world on AMI Audio ORG, thank you for being with us. Appreciate your time, valuable time, that is, and where you might be settling back on your couch to join us for the program live at 2 p.m. Eastern Time every day, somewhere around Canada GPE via AMI TV or listening and watching on one of the repeats of the program. Well, last night,Rami Amuthan, I have to say, some loud rain, lots of storms moving in from Michigan GPE that swept

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across this part of the southwestern Ontario. One of the things I noticed is just how loud rain can be sometimes. Sometimes, you know, it's there. Again, I know the wind plays factors, but sometimes it just falls hard enough where you say, good heavens, man.

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Yeah.

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That is really loud. And I know as a traveler, we've talked about what is worse? The wind, the sound of pouring rain, or snow coating everything like a blanket?

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Yeah, we'd like to bring that question back because I feel like things change seasonally, also our moods, maybe our traveling skills and abilities, how we're feeling that weak kind of thing. But with surfaces, because rain on different surfaces sounds differently, obviously. So you're walking around and you hear it on the concrete. That's a little different than hearing it on the tops of cars because there's a parking lot night right next to you, different roofs, of course, and what that means for the sound, right?Like, I wonder if you can have this kind of personalized experience when you're listening to white noise and requesting white noise from our smart speakers and all these different apps that offer it? Like, can we say rain on a rooftop versus rain on the grass? Yes.

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You know?

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Yeah, can.

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Same with sounds like lakes, rivers, ocean, different wave type sounds mixed with rain, you

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know, on a beach or whatever. Rain in the forest is so different, like tree tops? Oh, man. Yeah. Yeah. I used to find that really creepy when I would be walking in the woods when I was a kidand I'd hear, I'd say, what the heck's that coming towards me?

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Yeah.

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And it would just be the rain hitting the branches, the leaves, just seconds before it got to me. But it was like it was running across the tops of the trees.

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And it was absolutely the greatest thing. And then, you know, you have it coming down, but totally. It sounds so different versus pavement. But there's times it's just so loud it is, as they say, deafening. So really cool. Kind of like that as we advance into the spring and into the summer.Let's see what's coming up as we advance into our program for today.

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Nova Scotian Disability Advocates have resolved their years-long fight to close institutions for people with developmentally disabilities. Laura Bain PERSON is going to detail the community's reaction according to the, you know, result of the province's five-year plan today on the bus.

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Also, to recognize World Hypertension Day DATE, registered nurse Leslie DePoe PERSON is going to be telling us about the most asked questions on Google ORG around blood pressure and, of course, answer them as well.

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Entrepreneurship Coach. Heaven Shaw PERSON joins us, and he says, every business worth, oh, my good heavens, today's not a good day already. Every business is worth building, or every business worth building, ladies and gentlemen, is worth protecting. He explains the ins and outs of cybersecurity and how to evaluate those risks. We'll get into that conversation.He'll say it a lot more elegantly later on in hour to the program. A newly minted American law force enforcing a newly minted American law enforcement suggesting that TikTok should be, you know, should change names or be sold and face a ban in the United States GPE could be in for an uphill battle in court, this reporter says. The app says the China-based owner, bike dance, filed a lawsuit Tuesday calling the measure unconstitutional.

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TikTok argues that this is not going to work because this violates users' first amendment rights, that it tramples over your right to free speech. And on top of that, they say it's actually not possible to sell off its U.S. GPE operations. They say it's not possible commercially, technologically, or legally. So they argue in this lawsuit that this law essentially will force a shutdown of TikTok ORG. Okay.

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The social media platform currently maintains around 170 million U.S. GPE users. Hey, Rum PERSON, so they filed. And I think we've all been kind of waiting for them to come up with something that says, hey, you can't do this.

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Yeah, I mean, when we're all going to war against TikTok ORG, I think we should recognize, really, that it is more complicated than just shut this down, right? Because the complexities of business, the complexities of being involved with the general public, and now, of course, we're hearing very clearly that, hey, freedom of speech, constitutional rights, right?

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Like, there are all these angles that will, of course, come up in the court and in the court of the public as well. And I don't, I didn't see that it's being an easy battle, obviously not. The uproar from the general public is always kind of interesting to keep tabs of, because our perspectives are shifting. It used to be convenience. And we love TikTok ORG.And hey, it's just a new era. It's social media. But now we're like, no, no. There's a lot more to discuss. And there's a lot more problematic here than we originally thought. That doesn't mean that the shutdown is going to be easy, Kelly PERSON.Interesting.

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Unconstitutional. Those specific words being used. And they're right. By a Chinese NORP-based company speaking to the U.S.

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It can be ironic. It's in the U.S. GPE courts. It's very, very ironic, isn't it? So we will see as we watch, because those months are ticking away, and we'll see what actually comes of this decree by the U.S. GPE government. And how much really do they plan to follow and how much to clock to time. I would suspect there will be a delay that will be ruledby the courts at some point to stay this for a while, why it's looked further into.

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Coming up next, Ontario Education Minister Stephen Leche PERSON is calling for privacy hardware, excuse me, guardrails, following the installment, ladies and gentlemen, of installation of sound detectors in some Peel GPE region schools. Grant Hardy PERSON will be here next with the details. Don't miss a minute.

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Kelly and Rumia PERSON will be right back. Welcome back to the program, ladies and gentlemen,

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appreciate you being here. We're here, and it's the Wednesday edition midweek. All right, let's try to get over the hump. We'll get over it together. Rami Amuth, and she's at the studio in Toronto GPE. Kelly McDonnell at the home studio in London, Ontario GPE.And welcome in, Mr. Grant Hardy PERSON. Now, as we talk headlines, he's at his studio in Vancouver GPE.

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Hey, I'm Grant Hardy PERSON, and welcome to the headlines segment. I tackle everything from health and lifestyle to accessibility and tech. I have it all right here on Kelly and Ramiya ORG.

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Mr. Hardy PERSON, welcome back to the program. Happy Wednesday to you. Happy Wednesday.

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Great to be here.

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How's the show doing so far?

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We've had better starts to the show. I can only speak for myself.

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We've already got into some good controversy, so not bad.

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Yeah, definitely. You know when you bring up TikTok ORG, she's ready to go.

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Well, you know what? I would like to just carry on the theme and maybe I had a little bit more

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controversy show. Oh, you will with this item.

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We will indeed.

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So the Ontario GPE Education Minister is calling for some guardrails here,

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privacy related to some vape detectors that are being installed in schools.

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We kind of touched on this Monday,

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but just to expand on the theme of schools a bit.

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So Global News revealed that six public high schools in Brampton and Mississauga GPE have installed devices that are capable of detecting both vapor, odor, and loud sounds with alerts being sent to the administrator's office.

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The kicker is where they've been

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installed. They've actually been installed into student washrooms. The privacy experts are saying

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that these devices could ultimately expand to picking up conversations that kids are having in restrooms.

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They can also often include a range of safety measures, including motion sensors,

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counting the number of students in a washroom stall, gunshot detection, and trigger word

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detection as well.

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Those aren't the ones that have been installed in these

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particular regions, but they are capabilities

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that the devices can sometimes

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have.

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So the Minister of Education is saying

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they can be effective, but the government really does need to create some guardrails to ensure some safety and what is ultimately a private space,especially because the province has introduced a three-year $30 million fund that is allowing school boards to purchase these vape detectors for student washrooms, but they haven't really specified which products the education system is going to rely on. Wow, guys. Times have changed. And here I am.I always feel like people who are not parents or educators can face a little more resistance in providing their view, their opinion. But wow, to think that devices are now being installed that will actually reduce privacy in washrooms, that just seems insane to me. Because it just feels a little bit like, again, out of sight, out of mind.Like, is this genuinely going to stop the behavior, or are we going to be just convincing kids to not really trust adults? Also, just kind of strikes me, although, to be clear, that we are not picking up conversations or trigger words at this point, but just strikes me that it's a really private, intimate sort of place where we need to be exceptionally careful about how we're treating it.Thoughts?

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Yeah, a lots of thoughts. Look, I'm in pretty much the same ballpark as you, Grant PERSON, where, you know, we all seem to be jumping a lot towards just more surveillance, more surveillance, and it really doesn't even have to be in the niche or narrow conversation of school, but school's obviously very sensitive because we're talking underage, like minors,students, an educational context. But it's very much, yeah, like higher supervision, higher surveillance, more, you know, let's just bring the hammer down in these contexts. And I wonder how much of it is just research-based or fear-based, right? Like, can we go back to some of the, you know, studies or solutions and just numbers and details around whether this stuff works or not?There's so much in that context to be explored before just saying, this is what we're going to do because it's gone too far and we're not about it anymore. Vaping in schools, I think, is something that we need to address. Obviously, with the growing trends and all that kind of stuff and we know how horrible it is health-wise. However, this whole notion of like sound being captured in these vape detectors and then just bringing in a whole bunch of other stuff that has nothingto do with vaping. I'm not saying that they're not actual concerns as well, right? Like the things that are going to be detected with these sounds, but they're just a separate conversation. But we've like kind of tied it all into one thing and said, yes.

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No, we have.

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You know, it's insane to me. And this is very anecdotal. But, you know, just thinking back to my own sort of career throughout high school, and I, you know, I was raised by a single mom, but my mom explicitly trusted me.

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She didn't monitor my conversations, you know, with friends. She didn't like, you know, this or that. And I know that the kids that I know that were very heavily surveilled to the point where, you know, specific conversations that they had with their friends were being listened to,

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you know, yada, like those kids often did not have any trust in the adults around them. Whereas I, for example, once, you know, when I face some issues online related to,

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you know, being harassed by someone, I went straight to my mom to talk about it. Whereas some other kids, you know, maybe would have, oh, gee, I'm going to get in trouble.

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Didn't have that comfort. Just keep it, keep it to myself. So I agree, like how much is based on fear and how much is based on data, and I'm not really convinced that we have the data to back this up. Kelly PERSON, any thoughts?

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Well, I think as soon as I hear recording equipment, you're stopping short of, like,

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putting a camera in there, which we would, oh, you can't do that. Well, but guys, four years ago, six months ago, you would never have said you'd put a microphone in there, whether we know it can only, oh, it's only going to be set to pick up a certain type of sound. Okay. That's got to be yet to be proven and stuff. It's still something in there.It's still an invasion. It's kind of like when you walk through places, airports or whatever, you go to go in a bathroom. Hey, where's the door? Well, you understand that they've removed the door in case somebody gets into trouble. There's no doors put on a lot of these places. If we found that in a school circumstance, we'd, what? And I understand lots of horrible things, lots of people that are going to attest to and havefor years, terrible situations going into a bathroom being bullied or whatever it might be. And we didn't have the technology to do this kind of thing. Then we had to rely on staff walking through and monitoring or whatever or hopefully kids coming forward with problems. The vaping thing seems an interesting thing to me where this is where we've decided to draw the line and okay, we're going to put microphones in. Let's see them work on the ventilation systems.Is there things you can do there to pick anything up? I know vaping is a totally different animal. I just find it, wow, we're going this far for this issue. And I'm not, I don't know enough to say, is this what you think you want to do? I don't know enough about said recording equipment.

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Yeah, it's a very different era from how we grew up. That's all I can say. Anyways, I'm sure that will churn its way through the court of public opinion, possibly regulations as well, and yeah, we'll see what happens, but hoping everyone stays as safe and as much privacy as possible. Let's get to this other item because it's pretty interesting.There's a program in Victoria GPE that is actually pairing mental health nurses with police officers, RCMP ORG officers, and apparently it is achieving some success. So under the program, an RCMP ORG officers paired with an island health psychiatric nurse in an unmarked police vehicle. Apparently the RCMP ORG officer is still wearing their uniform, but they are looking to wear plain clothes.And those teams respond to any calls with a mental health component. And they're saying basically that the benefit is that they provide a different kind of collaboration of care, a non-judgmental approach to people in mental health crisis. And the program has already seen some great effects. They have included responding to everything from crisis and people with suicidal thoughts to people experiencing paranoia, youth calls, calls from seniors.And they've already seen a decrease in the amount of people who are apprehended, maybe taken certified under the Mental Health Act LAW, and stuff like that. So it seems like the kind of community policing initiative that we really need. Apparently, what needs to be worked on is, one, to make the program 24 hours, because right now it's just during the daytime.That is a really obvious one. And yeah, just expanding maybe to make the police officers a little more, you know, dare I say, non-threatening by wearing planar clothes and stuff like that.

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Really seems like a cool, cool project.

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That's all I can say, because if we look at a lot of the incidents that have happened in the past, you know, oftentimes we see people who maybe have some special needs or some mental health needs that are interpreted as aggression or, you know, something along those lines when really a more, like, mental health, educated, aware, compassionate approach can really sort of deescalate thingsand create a less hostile environment.

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Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's what I like. I mean, I'm not suggesting every situation is going to turn out just wonderful and rosy as we see numbers are better and communication is there.I think that when I first heard this stuff, especially when you hear on the news, situations where a parent, a family and friend says they just didn't understand so and so. And things got out of hand so quickly. And if this cuts some of that down, it's a win-win. Yeah, exactly. Really being able to, it's a win-win. Yeah, exactly.

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Really being able to, as they say, assess people right in their homes, you know, pair them up with resources in their communities in order to lower the amount of apprehensions

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and just throwing people into hospitals,

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considering really the lack of mental health, support, and resources that we have access to at this moment

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with a situation that is really just dire, especially in this world,

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and a lot of people struggling with their mental health. Definitely, as they say about all policing, really, I think that we really need to translate,

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transform into a more community-based approach.

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Yeah. Break some of these cycles, right? Some of the cycles of, oh, they're so-and-so. Get to know the people, understand them a little more. If we understand individuals because that's really the best way. Then that helps us be able to talk to them and maybe keeps that situation of arresting

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someone or whatever you want to call it, taking them in, letting them sit in jail overnight or whatever, and then kicking them out. There needs to be some of these de-escalation situations.

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Exactly.

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And that helps.

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Sorry, go ahead.

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Just, you know, general disability training, too.

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I remember visiting the fire station for a story, and they are talking about just with certain disabilities, you know, it can seem like someone is being aggressive or going to act aggressively when they're actually not at all.

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Right. I was just expanding that training. Any last thoughts, Romney PERSON? I know we got about the second.

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I just wanted to say, you know, different people are trained for different things, right? Like, there's no need to completely get rid of certain kinds of authority, I don't think, or law enforcement or policing of any kind, but really this kind of addition, right, adding the psychiatric nurse to the mix and adding the psychiatric nurse to the mix and adding mental health professionals to the mix, the social workers, and first response, first respondents, I think is the way to go.And also prioritizing neighborhoods or communities in different ways because we know that it's not a, it's not the same in every community.

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That's right. And these individuals are not the same as, you know, the person down the road or across town. And I think that this allows for that more familiarity. Grant PERSON, excellent. Thank you.Thanks, guys. Grant Hardy joins us on Mondays and Wednesdays. We talk headlines through some of the things that he finds trending. Coming up next, Airbnb ORG is now offering stays in famous buildings. Corinne Van Dusen PERSON is here with the details on the iconic experiences one could maybe experience. We'll get into that on the entertainment report next.Stick around and learn something new.

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Kelly and Romney will return with more in a moment.

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Sitting here with a big grin on, kind of thinking funny things, ladies and gentlemen. Why? Well, one simple reason. It's time to get your ticket to laugh, ladies and gentlemen. Why? Well, one simple reason. It's time to get your ticket to laugh, ladies and gentlemen. Only a few days, as a matter of fact. AMI and Halifaxe Comedy Fest are filming a second All Access Comedy ORG special. All Access Comedy is a stand-up special unlike any other.With comedians from the disability community coming together to celebrate their unique outlook on life for a packed audience of all abilities. The next All Access Comedy will be filmed this Sunday, May 12th at 3 p.m. Atlantic time at the Spatz Theater in Halifax GPE. Folks, get your tickets now, and these are free tickets. That even puts a bigger smile on the face, right? Of course. You can go to halifaxcomedy.ca.a.Be fun that would be out there checking that out.

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I know.

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I'm jealous. I really am. I'm envious that I won't be there for the live taping. Same thing last year, same thing this year.

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When are they going to start hearing my complaints? My grievances.

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They hear them. They just don't do it.

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Irene PERSON hears me. Yeah. She doesn't do anything about it either. All right. Let's get to entertainment with Corinne Van Dusen PERSON.

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Hi, I'm Corinne Van Dusen PERSON. Join me as we dive into the latest entertainment stories from music, television, and movies here with Kelly and Romya. We get talking entertainment every other week with Corinne PERSON.

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And lately, Corin, there's been a lot of talk in the entertainment world about celebrities leaving their money and who they're going to leave their will to and all this stuff. I had no idea. So you have to catch us up. Whoopi Goldberg PERSON has spoken up about it. First of all, how did this topic get started about who stars are leaving their money to? How did they start trending?

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Well, I first heard about it when an article came out about Jeff Goldblum PERSON talking about it. And I thought, why are they talking about it? Apparently, just the thing that celebrities get asked. Really?

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Yeah.

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And they just started answering, I guess.

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Yeah.

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Well, for decades, years, forever, famous people have, whenever, like, when they pass away, their will will become open and people can look at it. And, you know, sometimes they'll leave all their money to their cat. I don't know if that actually happened.

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There was a documentary about a woman leaving all her money to take care of her dogs. And these are like incredibly, incredibly

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rich people that are doing this. So Jeff Goldblum PERSON said that he's not leaving it to them. They're

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going to have to work for what they want in the future. Mind you, his kids are eight and six years old.

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So, you know, that's pretty early to be like that. And they finally start to understand what that means.

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Yeah, sorry, kid, get out.

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You got to burn your keep.

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But then it's, I thought Guy Fieri had an interesting take on it because his children are 27 and 18. And he said they will not be taking over his cooking empire unless they can prove themselves. So he told a story about how he told them what his dad told him. My dad said, when I die, you can expect that I'm going to die broke and you're going to be paying for the funeral.

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None of this is what I've been building.

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None of what I've been building is going to you unless you come and take it from me. Wow. Yeah. Kind of fun, but also a little scary for the kinds of family feuds.

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Well, and then you start thinking, how the heck is he going to take it from you? Like, wow.

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Yeah. Wow. So, well, I think, like, that was kind of a rough way of saying, like, you know, if they don't

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prove themselves in business, like, I'm not going to let them ruin, quote, unquote, ruin my business

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when I pass away. But that's kind of like, you know, just a rough way of saying, like, I worked for it,

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so you're going to have to work to earn it too.

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Or pry it from my dead hand somehow, but prove yourself.

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Yeah.

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It's fair.

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And I'm sure the public is having an absolute riot commenting and getting involved with the

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conversations.

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But now that we know what some of the celebrities will do,

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who's whoopi leaving her money to?

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Well, there was a really funny line written in an article.

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It said, in Whoopi Goldberg's PERSON view,

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because she's one of the hosts of the view.

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Money should stay in the family.

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So she's reportedly has a $60 million fortune,

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and she's going to be bequeathing everything to her daughter, Alexandra Martin, who is 50 years old.

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And she said, one of the great answers is children learn by what they see. She said, my mother worked her behind off. So that's why I feel the way I feel, and I'm leaving my kids everything that I have. So her children saw, her daughter saw how hard she worked to make a career. And, you know, it's lead by example kind of thing.

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And she's leaving all of her stuff to her daughter.

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Okay.

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Are we going to get personal with this?

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What are your thoughts about not leaving money to future generations?

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Well, I think when it comes to celebrities, a big question around that is nepotism.

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Have you heard the term nepo baby when it comes to Hollywood GPE?

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So nepotism is getting a job through a family member.

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So, you know, they only got the job because their dad is this or their mom is this.

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You know, so NEPO babies.

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Many.

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Many.

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Nepo Babies was a big theme in gossip column, celebrity.

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It even got to like magazines and newspapers asking like Dakota PERSON.

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Oh, no.

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Dakota Johnson PERSON. There you go. Oh, gosh. That was a block. That's a good thing, Ron PERSON. You did what I, you held back because I was also to say, oh, no,. There you go. Oh, gosh. That was a block.

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That's a good thing, Ron PERSON.

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You did what I, you held back because I was all to say, oh, no, no, you're going to be wrong. Shut up, Kelly PERSON. So she is Don Johnson and Melanie Griffith PERSON's daughter, and she's a big actor in her own right. So a lot of people have said, oh, well, she only got into the movies because of her parents. So that would be nepotism. And Guineath Petro PERSON has been quoted as saying,well, you know, it's harder for nepo babies because we have to prove ourselves twice as much, which he got a lot of flack for because, you know, when you have a foot in the door,

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yeah, you got to prove yourself. But, you know, Joe Schmoe is not going to have a foot in the door kind of thing. Yeah. So when it comes to, you know, your wealth and your decisions, like in the end, money is your decision. So, but I don't, I think it's more of a story headline when celebrities say, like, no, my kids aren't getting anything because then people start talking about the celebrity.And, you know, that's what cascades into, well, what have they done? And then, you know,

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they're on the tips of people's tongue. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Wow.

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Okay.

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This is one of your favorites from Airbnb ORG. Let's talk a little bit about Airbnb ORG as now the icon is offering entertainment-focused stays. I'm kind of curious about this. If you ever wanted to drift off in a famous Pixar house or hang out with a celebrity, Airbnb ORG's new icon category has lots of fun things to do. Can you explain what this category, what it is, what it includes?

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Yes, icons is a collection of what they're calling extraordinary experiences hosted by the greatest names in music, film, television, art, sports, and more.

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So Brian Chesky, he's a co-founder of Airbnb ORG, he says, icons take you inside worlds that only existed in your imagination until now. As life becomes increasingly digital, we're focused on bringing more magic into the real world. With icons, we've created the most extraordinary experiences on Earth LOC. Wow.

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Okay. I'm in my mind's racing here thinking, oh, you could do this, you could be that. What are some of the experiences they are offering?

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Well, I pick three of the ones that I thought were really, really unique. The first one is drift off in the uphouse. So sleep inside one of Disney and Pixar ORG's most iconic homes. And yes, wait for it. It floats. Oh, sick.

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Oh, yeah.

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You'll explore Carl's World FAC in this detailed recreation of the home, complete with more than 8,000 balloons and located in the scenic red rocks of New Mexico GPE. So they haven't explained how it floats. So that's something that we'll have to find out. But you can't stay in the uphouse and not have the 8,000 balloons take you up just a little bit.

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Oh, exactly. Just a bit. Yeah.

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The other one that interests me was Prince's Purple Rain House FAC.

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So Prince, the artist, purchased the Minneapolis, Minnesota home featured in the legendary film Purple Rain WORK_OF_ART.

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But it's never been available to the public until now you can explore the home and, you know, go crazy for rare and special tracks from Prince's World in an exclusive studio session as well.

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I don't you know this, but Prince PERSON famous for recording.

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I was thousands of songs, thousands of songs, and just putting them in a vault.

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So no one has heard them.

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So they're going to be, you know, some rare and special tracks that no one has probably heard of. So that's exciting. And then the last one's more of an experience. It's called Join a Living Room Session with Doja Cat WORK_OF_ART. Fresh off a tour performing on the world's biggest stages,Doja is hosting you for a much more intimate experience. You'll enjoy an unforgettable living room performance from the Grammy winning artist, including her favorite songs and tracks from her latest album.

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Get out.

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Wow.

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You're right.

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These are very diverse ideas of this iconic experience.

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Yeah. That is really cool. And I mean, whoever found these stuff, you know, and're right. These are very diverse ideas of this iconic experience. Yeah. That is really cool. And I mean, whoever found these stuff, you know, and made these happen in this way, this is really cool. How do you book one of these experiences?

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Well, you've got to be pretty lucky because you've got to go to their own category on the Airbnb ORG platform. They're all priced under $100 per guest. We don't know if there's a minimum guest limit for each thing.

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Right. Only a limited number of requests for these homes will be selected. And then from those, it will be chosen via a lottery.

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So they are milking this Airbnb ORG. Yes. Wow.

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Well, it's a once-in-a-lifetime experience lifetime experience. It is. So we'll find out if,

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you know, this one goes really well. If they bring back, uh, these ones and add other ones.

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Because a lot of, I was reading a lot of travel articles lately about more experiences than

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anything else, you know, booking a travel to a, not just to a resort, but you want to experience things that happening around there. So more people, well, this will tie in both, spending money that they

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have on experiences. Instead of waiting for, instead of taking many short trips, people are taking longer trips all at once to experience a whole area and do a lot of things there. Well, we know that

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Airbnb ORG went through like a major revamp. It wasn't just an interface app revamp, but, you know, the way that you're booking experiences, the things that they were offering, promoting, right? So this just falls right in to what they were doing.

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Definitely. Yeah.

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All right.

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Well, keep us posted, okay, if you get picked for the lottery for any of these.

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Yeah, let us know. The prince house might be a purple ring.

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Yeah? Yeah, it sounded like you were into that one. Okay, cool. The last story you have is about someone's secret identity, maybe. A fun fact has surfaced about Prince William PERSON. So British broadcaster, Dale Roberts PERSON, I believe.Adele PERSON.

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Adele Roberts recently told a story about his old radio days DATE that involved her.

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Her. Thank you.

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Sorry.

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That involved Prince Williams PERSON. No, it was good. And so tell us what was the story and how did it involve Prince Williams PERSON? Well, turns out he used to contact his favorite radio programs under fake names. So the Prince of Wales worked as an air ambulance pilot from 2015 to 2017. And after leaving there, the broadcaster Adele Roberts PERSON revealed that he once confessed to her that he used to text the show asking for shoutouts when he was working the early shifts.He said Prince William PERSON used to text me regularly on the show. And when Will and Kate came to Radio 1 to wish her luck before she ran the London Marathon EVENT, he let it slip that when he worked with the air ambulances, he used to listen to the early breakfast show and would sometimes

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message with a fake name asking for a shout out. That is so funny. Do we know what the name is that he used? She didn't say. She wouldn't give it away. I looked. There's several articles.

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It's their secret. Yeah. I look all around and nope, her lips are sealed. She's not saying.

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Wow. In this day and age, Adele PERSON? Oh, my gosh. Okay, cool. Do you think, do you have any ideas on the kind of name he would have made up?

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Yeah. That's, wow.

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Well, you never know.

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I don't know how creative Prince William PERSON is.

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He might be very creative, very, very not.

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He could have used William Princeton PERSON.

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Oh, yeah, yeah.

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He could have used something with his last name, Windsor PERSON.

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Or he could have went with something like Freddie Prince Jr.

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Wow.

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We're going to give Taylor Swift PERSON to run for her money with all these codes.

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Hey, I know.

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Maybe William Castle PERSON.

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William Castle.

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You kept the street going.

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Thank you.

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Maybe William Castle PERSON.

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I like it.

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I like it.

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I like it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, that was great.

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All right, Corinne PERSON.

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Fun stories.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Cren Van Dusen joins us every other week for entertainment.

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And, of course, that is in itself entertaining as well.

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You're welcome.

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Behave.

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I'll get her talking sports because that's part of entertainment.

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Wow, okay.

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Coming up next on the program, Nova Scotian Disability Advocates ORG have resolved their years-long

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fight to close institutions for people with developmental disabilities.

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Laura Bain details the community's reaction to the province's five-year housing plan on the bus. Up next right here on Kelly and Rumia ORG.

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Keep it here for more of Kelly and Rumia on AMI TV ORG.

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Welcome back to Kelly PERSON and Rumia. On the weekends, check out on AMITB, the best of Kelly and Rumia PERSON. Appreciate whenever you can take the show in, you settle back and enjoy. We have so many great contributors and community reporters and topics that we bring to the show in various ways. Thanks a lot for being with us. We on Wednesday, Thursdays, and Friday, so this today is the first edition of The Buzz WORK_OF_ART. And we welcome Laura Bainon, producing for the program. And Laura has some great topics today, again, to get into and us to be able to kick around a little bit. But mainly, Laura, today you've got some really interesting information for people out thereto think about, but mostly to be apprised of.

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Yeah, I'm happy to be here. And I should have given you guys a little bit more context for this article. I know I've come on and talked about this issue before. It's one that I'm pretty passionate. But for those folks who don't know, Nova Scotia GPE is the last province in Canada GPE to house people with disabilities in large institutional settings, which,by the way, is a violation of the UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities LAW, which

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Nova Scotia or rather Canada GPE is a signatory to. It affirms the rights of people with disabilities to live in the community and to have choice over where they're living. So, you know, for the last number of years, there have been, there has been a really high profile legal case unfolding around this brought forward by certain advocates and the Nova Scotia Disability Rights Coalition ORG. Now, that actually was resolved. Now, don't test me on the dates on when it was resolved because there was a number of appeals and kind of processes that that went through, but basically the Supreme Court of Canadawouldn't hear the case. And after that, the government and advocates started working on the remedy. It's called the systemic remedy. And this is the plan to close these institutions over the next five years. So this article, to give you the headline, it says Nova Scotia GPE parent uneasy as institutions for people with developmental disabilities set to close. Now, this really caught my

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attention because I think overwhelmingly the response from the disability community to this has been that it's a huge victory. And of course it is. There's even been like celebratory events around kind of this remedy. But I don't want to say that this article is expressing a counterpoint. It's expressing a different side of it. So when I read headlines like that, I almost have sort of a bit of a negative,visceral reaction. But in reading the article, I think that the concerns that are expressed are, of course, valid,

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and it really adds value to the conversation.

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So it focuses on one parent, one mother, of an adult son who lives in one of these institutions in the Kings County Rehabilitation Center FAC. And just sort of her uncertainty that as we've had this victory and as these institutions are closing, where is her son going to be living? And she says in the article, we need something that's set in stone, something that's going to be there.

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And it brought to mind for me what information are people with disabilities and their families getting about the transition? Because as much as it's a positive, when you've been living in a place for a certain amount of time, and that's going to be a big change and not a move to another institution. Maybe you don't know anything about small options homes, which is kind of, you know, what people are ideally moving towards in the province's small options homes. You're not necessarily going to know what that means for you. And especially this is in a rural community. So maybe she has to travel a certaindistance now to see her son. If he's moved into a small option home, where is that going to be? And are they going to have any choice over it? So I think that the concerns being brought forward in this are just really valid and highlight that need for information. And maybe if there's a little bit of a disconnect between like the advocacy piece of it,

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and of course there's lots of families who are involved in that advocacy,

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but maybe those families who aren't directly involved in the advocacy piece,

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what information are they getting about this outcome?

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That's what I was thinking, Laura PERSON, that does this create the gap that is there?

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We hope there's places for people to get supports in a different way that is acceptable. We all cheer because we say, yes, down with some of these archaic viewpoints and situations, and in many cases that that's the way it should be. We know, as you mentioned right off the top, this is not something we're supposed to be handling in this format at all. But then it does make you stop when someone says, okay, that's all nice. Everybody celebrate.But do you understand where does my son go? Where does he not fall in the cracks? So I, and again, I don't know how many people are in that situation. And like you say, it'd be interesting to see then what is the support for somebody who may be in more of a need in that capacity? Because we all often know there are people already, and we see it here, that kind of fall in the cracks of needing some support, some of that ongoing guidance.And you worry about them. You don't want to see anyone mistreated. And that includes us on the streets who may run into these people and not be sure how to how to take a person. And you say, yeah, you treat them like you would anyone else like a human being but as a loving parent who will say but that's not always what can happen in my child's

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case you have raised such a valid point that I just want to talk I don't want to spend the whole 15 minutes talking about this article I could but when we saw institutionalization starting in Canada in the 1960s that was a big problem that people were being released from institutions and ending up unhoused. So I think that's a really important piece that people understand that as part of this systemic remedy to close these institutions in Nova Scotia GPE,we are dealing so much with a housing crisis right now that the plan is not just to close these institutions and have people wind up on the streets.

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It's a plan to transition to small options housing.

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Yeah.

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Well, we do it for people coming out of jail, right?

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We have a halfway house for them.

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And some of that is not just to say, yes, exactly.

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And some of it's not just to say, well, they might still be tempted to do this and that. Someone's got to keep an eye on. But a lot of it is to adjust.

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Well, there's so many aspects of adjustment that we have to consider as well. A lot of the oversights that may come up. We know, you know, as a relatable point, you go in with a, let's say, a diagnosis.

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You go to an eye doctor, you get a diagnosis, and then you're like, now what do I do from here, right? How much are you really thinking about or how much are the support systems aware of what that transitional period could feel like for somebody and we have so many versions of this kind of conversation laura so there's just a lot always a lot to

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touch on for sure i'll move on to my next piece instead of i'll get down off my soapbox here

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uh canada's divorce rate is the lowest in 50 years but fewer people I'll move on to my next piece instead of I'll get down off my soapbox here.

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Canada's divorce rate is the lowest in 50 years, but fewer people are getting married at all. So this article is based on a recent report by the Vanier Institute ORG for the family. And hey, good news. Divorce rates have actually been falling in Canada since the 1990s. Now the article comes in with that headline, the lowest it's been in 50 years. Now that's in 2020. It says that the divorce rate dropped to 5.6 divorces per 1,000 couples.This is a CBC ORG article. I was astounded that it didn't mention the confounding variable of the pandemic in 2020 because, of course, people were just hunkering down. They were kind of stuck in their situations. And also a lot of, you know, legal proceedings weren't able to happen, such as divorce. So I think this article is a little bit misleading to be truthful, but, you know, the divorce rate is still falling.And some of the reasons for that have to do with an aging population. And apparently when people who are older are less likely to get a divorce than younger couples, I guess they figure they've been sticking it out for this long. They might as well stay with it. And of course, more couples live in common law. And when they choose to split up it, it doesn't get recorded in this data. But interestingly, about the same number of adults who say they're part of a couple hasn't changed in around 100 years in Canada GPE. So about 57% of adults say that they're part of a couple.So that old adage is saying that half of all marriages end in divorce, it was never true in Canada GPE. So the highest it's ever gotten is around 40%. And that was after 1968, when a restrictive divorce law was changed. So there was kind of a flood of people getting divorces who were able to because of this change in legislation.

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But a little bit of positivity there, I think. You know, sometimes if you're thinking of getting married and someone says to you, oh, you know, half of all marriages end a divorce, you can say, well, no, that's actually, that's not true at all.

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Not here. Did it get into the details around fewer people getting married at all? Because we know that's an upward trend along with people waiting longer to have children,

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etc. Yeah, it did. You know, it said about people, as I say, live in common law. One thing that sort of surprised me is it said that couples with higher education are more likely to get married. I actually might have thought that the oppositewould be true because people pursuing higher education might be putting off getting married. And it said that at the same time, people with higher education are less likely to get divorced. So part of the drop in the divorce rate is that those who are most likely to get divorced, i.e. those who like have a lower level of higher education are actually less likely to getmarried. So I think there's probably lots of complexities to tease out.

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I would think so. And reasoning what we could draw in a way of conclusions. Very interesting. Thank you.

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And putting your critical thinking hats on when you're reading articles and thinking, wait a minute. What factor did the pandemic play here in this statistic? Yeah. Okay, last piece.

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Oringotang observed treating wound using medicinal plant in world first.

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So ruckus, he's causing a little bit of a ruckus, he's a male Sumatran NORP orangutang, and he was observed by Indonesian NORP scientists treating a wound on his face by chewing leaves from a plant that's used in traditional medicine called a carcunig and basically spitting out the juices, applying it to his face, and then covering that over with chewed up leaves, sort of like a bandage. Wow.

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And this is the first time that a primate has ever been observed using plant medicine to treat

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a wound. So it's kind of a big deal. They're saying actually that it could offer insight into the evolution of human wound treatment. Now, they're not really sure how we learned this behavior, but it was just accidental self-discovery, like, hey, that feels good, I'm going to do it,

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or if it's something that he observed from other orangutans NORP. Yeah, and if he observed it from other orangutans NORP, where were we? Right? Like that's to see the same thing happen. But it's interesting that they point out specifically that it's the first time they've seen it being used as a topical because we've learned so much from like animal diets and where they go for protection or, you know, predator prey insights and things like that.It's kind of surprising to me that this is the first observation of topical ointment.

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Yeah, as you say, it did point out that primates have been known to eat medicinal plants.

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Like maybe if they have an upset tummy, but that as far as scientists know, they haven't observed them using it for wound healing at all.

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I also find that a little bit surprising, but man, there's just so much that we don't know about the natural world.

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And we can't observe.

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That's the whole thing we're not there observing all the time.

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And when again, we've always said, oh, well, they'll put mud on something, you know, and then it rolls in the mud or other things they do that we may not necessarily is due to.

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Yeah, and it might be, oh, that's a behavior as opposed to, well, yeah, a little while ago, he hurt himself and that's kind of, you know, that's something he's doing to, to,

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for the wound. That's such a good point, too. Like, what are we even observing, observing wrongfully, right? Like, we might be completely wrong about some of the things that we have to said, yeah,

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coming to the wrong conclusion.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Oh, he's just dirty. Look at them rolling the mud.

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Exactly, trying to unpack that psychology.

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He did get the wound, apparently,

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in a fight with another male orangutan. Wow. A part that holds my life there.

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Yeah, that ruckus.

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I love the leaves think.

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That just kills me. Laura, thanks for coming in here and creating a ruckus this afternoon.

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As always, thanks, guys.

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Laura Bain will be back tomorrow with more. We call the segment, The Buzz WORK_OF_ART, please. Hopefully you can be with us as well. Up in the next hour of our program, yes, there's still one more hour, ladies and gentlemen. Entrepreneur, entrepreneurship coach,Kevin Shaw PERSON says every business worth building is worth protecting. He explains the ins and outs of cybersecurity and how to evaluate your risks. Also, to celebrate World Hypertension Day, registered nurse Leslie DePoe PERSON answers a few of the most Googled questions about blood pressure. But up next, May is Vision Health Month here in Canada GPE. To celebrate the Toronto Visionaries is hosting the White Cane Week Experience Expo EVENT,the Visionaries Form, and wait for it, that celebratory dinner. We get the details on our Toronto Community Report with Stephen Ritchie in two minutes. Keep it here for more of Kelly and Rumia on AMI TV ORG.

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That isn't streaky, but we do run streaks on this show, ladies and gentlemen.

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Welcome back to Kelly and Rumia PERSON. So the Taylor Swift streak continues on the program when we bring Corinne Van Dusen PERSON on. We'll see if we can adjust that one of these days. But also, at times, we've even had the Harry Potter PERSON streak. Haven't we?

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Oh, yeah.

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Audio book chat with your, with our chatting.

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We've got a lot of streets with Ryan Huey PERSON on the chatty bookshelf.

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Yes.

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Harry Potter was one of them. No, Harry Potter PERSON. There hasn't been too many others, has there?

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Are I forgetting one?

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No, that's not a street because it's both of us.

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Oh, really? He talks a little more baseball. No, I'm talking specific.

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Taylor Swift or Harry Potter PERSON. They're exact things. Sports is not specific?

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No, not Detroit Tiger versus Toronto Maple Leafs ORG. Not that we can't get that specific.

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Because if we're going to do that, then we do that for Harry Potter PERSON as well. Well, you are. Isn't talking anything about Harry Potter PERSON? Just talking Harry Potter PERSON?

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No. No? Super fans, Potterheads would completely disagree.

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Well, but I'm the uninformed remember.

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I know.

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I'm just ignorant.

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You're forgiven.

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She's at the studio in Toronto GPE. Kelly McDonnell at the home studio, the ignorant studio, here in London, Ontario GPE.

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There are a lot of reasons why this probably came up right now, but we're going to get into Community Report with Stephen Ritchie, who joins us from Toronto GPE. We get into Community Reports, Mondays, Tuesdays, and Wednesdays to kick off the second hour. Now, is it because you're wearing a jersey, Stephen PERSON? Is that a streak?

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I am wearing an Oilers ORG jersey because my leaf jersey has just got tears all over it.

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Is that why?

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All those stains.

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That's why I told Rameh PERSON, when we were being told what you were wearing.

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I said, well, that's simply because he's picking the team closest in Canada GPE. But you have that jersey on, but tell us about your hat too.

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I live in Edmonton GPE as well.

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And yeah, my hat's one of the halal hats, you know, it has sort of a piece that sort of has braille on it.

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And sort of I forget that I'm wearing it because I always wear a cap, right?

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And baseball cap for the most part. And I have people sometimes just saying hello to me on the street.

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I forget I'm worried that. You can't remember why.

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Yeah, that's say hello.

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What is the city of friendly?

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Sorry, Ron PERSON.

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Say hello to blindness.

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And it's Denise Justin PERSON who makes those hats really popular.

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Very good.

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I like the Braille on it.

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That's great.

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I think she's acted in, actually.

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Oh, okay.

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All right.

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Well, you can probably find the hat somewhere.

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Yeah.

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Let's talk, because there's a lot of celebration recognition going on,

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let's talk about the White Cane Week Experience Expo EVENT to start.

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Speaking of Braille PRODUCT on a hat.

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Yes. And Denise PERSON is often out there.

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Yes, 100%. So this is shifted from White Cane Week DATE, which this event traditionally was taking place still at the Miles Community Center FAC there at Spine and Bloor FAC for many years in White Cane Week DATE in Februaryand they moved it to May. So it's going to be happening, which is nice, because it's up to get everyone out on a February day, depending on the weather. So it is moved to May, and this is, I think, the second time. This particular event is going to happen in the even year, so 2024. On Saturday, Maythe 25th, we will be getting together for a full day of events at the Miles Nadel Community Center ORG, Espinine and Bloor FAC, and I'm sure a lot of the people in the community have been there many times for lots of different events. And there's three parts to Bloor FAC, and I'm sure a lot of the people in the community have been there many times for lots of different events. And there's three parts to this event, from 11 a.m. until, and it's absolutely free. From 11 a.m. until about 3 o'clock, there's going to be an exhibit hall, open house that will probably, I think, we have probably close to about 40 exhibitors. I think there's room for 51 exhibitors.So we'll have lots of different exhibit tables and people to talk to everything from, you know, sports to transportation to high tech to whatever you're, you know, skiing or curling or whatever your fancy is sailing, you're going to get to talk to the people and learn a lot about what's going on in our community. And then we're going to fold the whole thing up. And at around 3.30, there's going to be a forum in the theater in the same venue. They've got a beautiful theater there. And it's going to be an update on the revisions or the situation with theassistive device program, the ADP program in Ontario GPE, and I think a few other sort of spotlights that will happen in that sort of symposium side. And then they, in the meantime, the worker bees will be converting that exhibit hall into a social dining area. And I think it starts at 5.30 or 6. I'm sorry. I think it's at 6 o'clock. And the Toronto Visionaries, of course, the chapter of CCB ORG, who are hosting this whole event, will be having a dinner social. So you can register online.I think that if you check the Toronto Visionaries website, when I talked to Ian last week, they still didn't have the registration information up there. I also believe that the, it's my understanding that the symposium about ADP update is going to be streamed so people can, you know, listen to that if they can't make it into downtown.

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For people who are...

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Yeah, that's a really big discussion, so I'm glad to see that.

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Sorry, Ron PERSON.

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Oh, no, no, it's good. People who are really regulars to the WCW Expo EVENT, no, it's a big deal. It's a whole day. The shenanigans are endless, and, you know, it's a social experience altogether because everybody kind of gets to know the vendors, the regular people who come out and it's fun, right? It's a pretty connected community here in Toronto GPE. But anyone who'snew, do you want to point out a highlight or two, Steven? Yeah, I think you just sort of did. I think,

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you know, the big highlight is that, you know, we get the whole community together, and it's not just one piece. So, you know, some people like myself will show up there probably around 10 o'clock in the morning to set up the table. And not only am I an exhibitor with CNIB Smart Life ORG, but I'm, I've joined the committee for Toronto GPE Visionaries to sort of help volunteer to help with this, this event. So, you know, just the fact that you can either pick and choose between all three events and, you know, show up at 10 and leave at probably about eight or nine at night TIME,or you can, you know, pick and choose what is important to you. But I think a lot of it really, to me, is just being with our community, being with our peers, learning from each other, being inspired by each other, I think that's really what it's all about. And getting out, you know, even in 2022, we had a pretty good turnout, all things considered, because we really weren't on the other side of COVID yet.And it's still, there was certainly, you know, a lot of people that came out, all things considered. So I'm anticipating a pretty good turnout. You know, it's a great time to get back out there and see what's going on in the community. So I think it's, you know, and it's a free dinner, too.

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Yeah, fair. Well, the it's a free dinner, too. Yeah, fair.

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Well, the days before the free dinner and all.

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Are you guys going to be at this event?

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No, no, I won't be.

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But I'll tell you one thing, that we did our first remote from there ever as a program when we were back in the day as Kelly and Company ORG. But rum, I think that was the last maybe Saturday event that we did at this new space for

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them because originally it was over at CNIB ORG and now at the news space and the new setup of the day because I remember the worker bees, Stephen PERSON and company, tearing things down at that time you weren't, but now you are. But tearing things down to make way for the talk and the dinner. So really wonderful to see the success. And when you point out something like 2002, that's tremendous, Stephen PERSON. tearing things down to make way for the talk and the dinner. So really wonderful to see the success.And when you point out something like 2022, that's tremendous, Stephen PERSON.

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So I hope also people who may have family members who are low vision or blind or just curious, show up, meet some of these people, come off the streets, say, what the heck, you know, why not? Let's go visit, see what it's like. And I think you'll find it very fascinating and people very welcoming, Stephen PERSON.

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It's location, location, you know, it is pretty much in the center of Toronto. So no matter what part of the GTA GPE you're from, you know, it's kind of fair for everybody. And it's so accessible by public transit or people that do use wheel trans. So get off your button, come on out and say hi.

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And while we're at it, Stephen PERSON, let's find out a little bit about let's ride. What's that pitch? What's this about?

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The eye ride.

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So as we know, cycle for sight was the ride for our community to raise money for Fighting Blindness Canada. And last fall they announced that they were going to go in a different direction for I move or something like that, which is wonderful. You know, they had a pretty good 15 years DATE. I did the ride and I was the ambassador for Cycle for Site ORG.

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So the folks that were, you know, dedicated to this ride have decided that they're not going to let it go. So that was the birth of the I ride. So a very similar group of people that are hosting or putting on this event. It will be a one-day ride. You have a choice between doing a 65-kilometer ride or a 120 ride, starting at the 407 and 7 subway station FAC, right up by Jane FAC and Don't Walk sort of thing. And, you know, either you can ride to Alliston or you can ride all the way up to Collingwood GPE.So very similar type of, it's a lot of the same people that are going to be orchestrating and facilitating this ride. It's just a wonderful day on the road. You know, the proceeds now are going to be split between balance for blind adults and trailblazers. So, you know, those are two wonderful organizations and nonprofit causes in the GTA GPE. So we love supporting those two organizations. And, of course, trailblazers in the past have been a big part of the cycle for site,which is now the Iride. So you can go, they have a web page where you can learn about the routes, where you can learn about the registration. The kickoff at the subway station there is 8 a.m. on the 22nd of June, Saturday 22nd of June DATE. And, you know, it's just another, as I mentioned, I've done it over the years,and it's a, it's a pretty good ride, although when I got to Collingwood GPE, that was 140 kilometers for me the first time I did it and I kissed the ground when I got there because, holy macrol, I was on my own bike and I can't see. I'm legally blind and I have this acutect bioptic glasses, but there's some wild people on the roads and I was put it this way. I packed some extra underwear.Sorry.

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And we'll end it there.

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We'll pack it in, Stephen PERSON.

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Okay. Okay.

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We'll talk to you next month, Stephen PERSON. Thank you so much and all the best with the WCW ORG.

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Thanks a lot. Take care.

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You too. Stephen Ritchie is our Toronto GPE community reporter, and we get regular community reports to kick off the second hour Monday to Wednesday on the show.

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Coming up next, the Celebrate World Hypertension Day, registered nurse Leslie DePoe PERSON, answers a few of the most Googled questions about blood pressure. Important conversation ahead right here on Kelly PERSON and Rumia.

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Don't go away. There's more great conversation with Kelly and Ramya PERSON right around the corner. Always putting so much into our program, folks.

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Gotta lay it out and get it ready for you. And we do that. And we appreciate you joining us to take it all in. Kelly McDonnell here, Rameh Muthin PERSON. This is Kelly and Rumiya PERSON. And it's time to get into a health check-in.Let's welcome in our registered nurse, Leslie DePoe PERSON. I'm Leslie DePoe,

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registered nurse, and there's nothing I love more than helping folks learn about their own health so they can be a better advocate for themselves and those around them. Join me for your health check-in where we chat all things health and wellness and even a little bit of science from time to time.

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Welcome back, Leslie, and today what a topic, very important one. Today we're chatting about blood pressure. We are. It's my favorite. It's very near and dear to my heart. I love talking about

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hypertension, and it's just such a great excuse. I like to make sure we do this at least once a year, just so we make sure everybody's up and up on the latest and the greatest. It's May 17th is really World Hypertension Day DATE. And no, this does not mean this is the day you're all supposed to go out and become hypertensive. This is just a time we're going to talk about blood pressure. We're going to learn a thing or two.How do we lower it? What is good blood pressure? These are some of those questions that show up every year. End of the year we normally do a segment sort of most Googled health questions. And blood pressure is always on this list. It just tells me that people are always asking this question.I just had a friend of a friend, because this is what happens when you're a nurse, text with pictures of her blood pressure reading, saying, am I going to have a stroke? At what point am I going to have a stroke? So I think that these are the questions. She's fine, for the record. But these are the questions that people have in their minds, right? What do we do about it? What do the numbers mean? How do we manage it? So let's get into it.It's world hypertension day. So let's chat blood pressure. Wow. And it's interesting because so

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many of us, until we need to worry about it, whether it's a family member ourselves, it kind of just like, oh, and then when you're told about it, what, what's that mean? So let's start at the beginning and be sure we're all on the same page. When you say blood pressure, what exactly are you talking about?

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Yeah, totally. Let's start at the beginning for sure. A nice little basic going back to health class, although I don't even know if we did this in health class, if I'm being honest.

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I don't remember.

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Right?

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Okay, great, because I was like, if we did, I definitely missed that day. This is not something I really figured out until I was a nurse. So a lot of people think that blood pressure is talking about how hard or how fast your heart is beating. It does have something to do with your heart, but not indirectly, I guess, is a better way to say it.

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So your heart is the organ that actually pumps blood throughout your body. It carries oxygen to your organs, and then we get our deoxygenated blood comes back up. It gets oxygenated through our lungs. We can do a whole class on that one day as well. But what we're really talking about, we talk about blood pressure, is the resistance or the pressure that is in all of the veins and the arteries that carry the blood around your body. So when you get the cuff put on your arm or on your wrist, or some people have got this now on smart watches as well,there's a lot of really great accessible devices for blood pressure monitoring, although we can get into making sure you choose the right device,

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because that's a huge problem for some folks as well. We're really talking about kind of the force or the pressure against which your heart must pump in order to deliver this blood to the rest of your body and then have it all come back up towards the heart. So when we talk about that or talk about hypertension, hypertension is just high blood pressure. This is when there is too much pressure in the vessels. Okay.And that can happen. Like I often use the analogy of a hose, a garden hose. So your heart is you turning on and off the tap itself. Your blood pressure is talking about the pressure inside the garden hose. And that can be affected by a couple of different things, a number of different things, really. But that is the basis of blood pressure.That's the basis of this whole conversation.

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So obviously it's very important because your heart's doing the work, but the blood pressure is what's going on in your entire body.

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Yeah, for sure it is. And the thing about blood pressure as well, and Kelly PERSON makes a great point. It's like a lot of people don't know they have anything wrong with their blood pressure until they know there's something wrong with their blood pressure. Seems obvious, but unfortunately that's what happens, right? Especially if you're an otherwise healthy person or your person that doesn't have a familydoctor or family provider, which is a huge issue in, well, all across the country, but definitely in Ontario GPE right now, if you're not checking these things regularly, if you don't know what your normal is, and we talk about this so much on these segments, which I love, which is know your own body. You have, you know, your version of low blood pressure or my version of low blood pressures might be two different things. Similarly, high blood pressure, you know, there are of low blood pressure or my version of low blood pressures might be two different things.Similarly, high blood pressure, you know, there are actual numbers for that that we worry about from a diagnostic, like, criteria perspective. But you have to know where you normally lie. Because when you take that pressure in the moment, you are getting a snapshot. That's not necessarily an aggregate total. That doesn't mean that's what it is all the time. If I took your blood pressure the second after a bear jumped out at you in the woods, I can guarantee you it is alot higher than if I took it while you were sleeping. So we have to give context to these numbers as well. And it has a huge impact on your health. It's called the silent killer for a very good reason. And like I said, it's because a lot of people walk around severely hypertensive and have absolutely no idea until it's either caught on a routine screening or, unfortunately, something big and dramatic comes to be.

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Okay. Wow. We know stress. That's what we mostly associate with it. And we say, oh, okay, that's what's going on there. That can cause that higher blood pressure. What other things, Leslie PERSON, should we think about or recognize can do the same? Yeah, for sure. So there's some stuff

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you can't change. You can't change your genetics. You can't change a lot of the times you can't

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change certain parts of your situation that might be causing these things. But there's a lot that you can, I mean, can't change your age. That's another thing that's going to impact your blood pressure as well. But you can change, there are modifiable reasons that your blood pressure might be elevated. Stress is for sure, one of them. You can also lower blood pressure with appropriate exercise. You know, smoking is a huge one. And just, you know, for reasons as to why that is, like picture, like we're going to go back to imagining that garden hose again that we were talking about thebeginning. When you talk about high cholesterol, you talk about having a poor diet, you talk about smoking. What you're doing is you're putting stuff inside the hose. So you're clogging it up with stuff, whether it's fatty plaques or its actual kind of collections of fat themselves. The diameter, the inside of the hose is getting smaller because you're putting things inside of it. When you talk about things like stress, what you're the hose is getting smaller because you're putting things inside of it. When you talk about things like stress, what you're actually doing is the vessel itself,the hose shrinks, it tightens up. So either way, you're decreasing the amount of space that you have for the blood to actually pass through. So that's the reason we end up with these higher numbers. And again, some of that we can control. You can decrease or quit smoking. We can improve our diets. We can increase exercise. We can hopefully try and decrease stress as well. So there definitely are some things that are modifiable. But it's important I understand too. There's also people that are just geneticallypredisposed to this. There are folks that are in great shape that exercise, that are a healthy weight, that follow a great diet diet that just have hypertension. We don't have a great reason for those folks, but it does not mean it's to be ignored, regardless of the cause. And I've got a family member just like that who was caught completely on routine screening. And I don't mean a little bit of high blood pressure. I mean the doctor took it four times in office and sent him to the emergency departmentbecause it was so high. There's nothing else he could have changed to his life. He's living the best, healthiest life he could, but all of a sudden they go into the family history. And sure enough, did that happen to his dad? Sure did. Did it happen to his dad's dad? It sure did. Does he have a brother with the same thing? Yes. So there are certain factors that you really can't account for, but it doesn't mean we ignore the numbers. It doesn't mean thatthat that still wouldn't cause you the potential for having some really significant outcome. So again, it's just, it's important that you know where your norm is and that you've got

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some kind of awareness for that as well. Exactly, which takes us back to going and getting checked regularly so we know what it is, right? Because I think the same thing goes for low blood pressure, right? Some people might be alarmed that their blood pressure is regularly low, but that might be genetically disposed as well, Leslie PERSON. The stress part of it is interesting for sure, because the other ones you mentioned are like kind of physical attributes, diet, exercise, smoking, but stress and how it affects blood pressure is always kind of like, you know, we think of it as mental health, right, and how that affectsour physical body.

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Yeah, and it's such a great point, right? Like, I think we sort of, a lot of the times we see these things in, which I want to think we're getting better at in health care in general. But I think they've been really siloed over the years that, you know, blood pressure is one thing. Stress is another thing.Whether or not you're in a happy marriage is another thing. Sure. Right? We always, like, we think of these things as all completely separate thing. Your risk for cancer has nothing to do with the fact that you have a super high stressful job and you're unhappy all the time. The truth is it's agiant Venn diagram, right? All of these things overlap. And so it's sort of about like, yeah, I know we're, you know, we're talking today really specifically about blood pressure, but when you're talking about those appointments, Romia PERSON, like you make a great point about that. You know, we go into a doctor's office and a lot of the times, for very reasonable reasons, we don't get into all of that other stuff. It's like, oh, man, that's a really high number. What's wrong with you? Well, you got to do something about that. Well, at either. And I do want to say, like, I want to give credit where credits do. We've changed a lot of these guidelines. Back in the day,you had high blood pressure. The first thing people did was hand you a pill. Like that, that was that. You went zero to being medicated right out of the gates. And it's not, that's not the way we do this anymore. There's a whole triage guideline to this. There's an algorithm you follow. There's certain interventions you try first. We try and kind of weed that out further.We don't even take the first number that we took for you in the office. There's a whole notion that there's a whole kind of unofficial diagnosis called White Coat Syndrome, right, which is folks that get really nervous when they're around healthcare professionals and they tend to.

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Yes, yes.

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Well, I'm just going to tell you, just to make you feel better, Kelly PERSON, I'm one of those people.

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And I know that seems ridiculous given what I do for a living. But I recently had to go in for kind of a day surgery. It was not a big deal. But I've never had surgery in my life. I've never been on the other side of receiving any kind of medical treatment. And I sat down and I am a person who knows my numbers. And, you know, you're goingthrough your little pre-op and they go and take my blood pressure. And I see the nurses kind of face turned to me. And she said, do you have a, like, are you okay? Well, I mean, I'm nervous. Like,

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I don't want to be here. Do you have a problem with your blood pressure? I said, no, why is it? And, you know, and she tells me the number. I think it was something, it was insane. It was like 175 over 110. Like it was a high number.

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And I can tell you, I know what my number is. It's not that. But that's what I mean. It's context,

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right? So I was able to say, I know, that is not me. No, I don't have a blood pressure problem.

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I am very nervous. I then have to go and tell them I'm a nurse. Then they all have a big laugh about

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that. And okay, on we go with the rest of our day. But, you know, there are a lot of folks that have that exact reaction when you get confronted in those spaces it makes people get really nervous and so we used to take that number when you were in office and people would be prescribing you medications

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based off of that meanwhile if you gave them 20 minutes and let them go home that's not real so then you give them medication we drop their blood pressure and you got a whole bunch of other problems so we've really developed the canadian hypertensive guidelines are way more robust. They did a whole revamp a few years back. And there is a significant improvement.

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But it all has to start with exactly what you said, Ramia PERSON, which is you have to interact with the system at some point in time. And it's better that you do it on your own term. So you've got some ownership over that. And it helps you to be a bit more of an advocate as you move through the system so that you're not the person like me who's sitting there in your pre-op appointment,

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watching people's eyeballs. From the first time. And thinking, are you okay? Right. No, for sure.

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And you said it earlier, like you alluded to it with smart devices and all these other things that are

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now more and more available to us. We can keep track of different health, not issues necessarily, but our well-being, if you will, on a moment.

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And the right way to take your blood pressure, right? And the right way to do your blood pressure

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and stuff. And let's talk about that quickly, Leslie PERSON. Like, you know, the core principles of health, we've mentioned it now several times during this conversation because it's not just about blood pressure. It's all these other things that come into play. But it still can be overwhelming to think about lifestyle, diet, exercise, you know, smoking, et cetera, et cetera. Yeah, and it is.

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It does feel like a lot. What I like to say is, you know, if you're quiet with yourself for long enough, let's say you're the person that goes in and finds the number and they ask you all these questions, you know, in your gut of gut, what the thing is. You know what I mean? Like a lot, I shouldn't say all the time, but a lot of the times people are going to go,I know, I know, I know I need to eat better. Oh, God, I know I need to quit smoking. Oh, God, I know I need a new job. People often know. I think the big thing is that, you know, again, we talk so much about on these segments, which I love, but is the advocacy piece

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of it. And you being able to direct those appointments as well with your primary care

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provider, is you being able to say, listen, I get it. It's a high number. I don't need a

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lecture right now. I don't need you to point your finger at me because it's only going to make it

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get worse. But I do need some help finding a good counselor. I do need some help speaking to a dietitian. I do need some help finding a local community resources that's maybe supplemented in terms of cost where I could go and exercise or try and start that journey for myself. Because it's not about a number on a scale necessarily. It's about an overall sense of wellness and longevity. And not just being alive to a certain number is one thing, but thriving while you're doing it is another.And hypertension is certainly part of that conversation, but you're the biggest part of that conversation, which is knowing where your norm is and understanding kind of what those factors are that influence it and then being able to advocate for what you need.

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Absolutely. Leslie PERSON, fantastic. Where should we go to get more information and relax a little bit about this?

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Yeah, for sure. So there's some great stuff on hypertension.com.ca is a great website to start. Don't go to the healthcare professional part. That's too much. We don't need that. Just start with some basic information on that site. There's some really, really great links. And we've talked, you know, we've chatted a lot over, you know, world mental health and that too. You know, feel free to use some of those links as well in terms of like if we're talking about stress reduction. There's some great stuff there as well. But we can certainly discuss in the months to come about some other, some other resources to kind

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of help fill out that Venn diagram of overall health and wellness. Yeah. I mean, the accessibility, the whole, the smart watches, these smart devices.

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I mean, a lot of time people try to find the accessible cup for taking their blood pressure.

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And some of these things are elusive in our position.

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But boy, so helpful. And they really can alleviate some of that. And Leslie PERSON, I've also learned don't drink so much coffee before they check your blood pressure.

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Please don't do that. You're going to, or you can do that and scare the pants off your

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physician because we've all done it. But they're going to make you go take a nice long walk

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and get decaf on your next appointment. Exactly. I'm smart enough to come in now and like, I'm doing pretty good, aren't it? Oh, you're great. You're great. Leslie PERSON, thank you kindly as usual. Absolutely. Thanks, guys. Chat soon.

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Registered nurse, Leslie DePoe, joins us on the second Wednesday of the month for a health

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check-in, folks. Up next in our program, entrepreneurship coach, Kevin Shaw PERSON says every business worth building is worth protecting. He explains the ins and outs of cybersecurity and how to evaluate your risks. That conversation up next here on Kelly and Rumya ORG. It's fun, insightful and inclusive.

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Kelly and Rumia return in a minute.

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Thanks for being with us, ladies and gentlemen. Appreciate your time. We're here weekdays from 2 to 4 p.m. Eastern time on AMI TV ORG. We debut on AMI Audio at 4 p.m. Eastern. First repeat to the program, 10 p.m. Eastern time on both networks. Check us out when you can. Overn, you can find us on AMI TV and first thing in the morn on AMI Audio. Kelly McDonald with Rameh Muthin PERSON.

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Let's get into our business chat as we do once a month at least, but specifically with Kevin Shaw PERSON.

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Do you have questions about how to turn your business dreams into reality? Join me, Kevin Shaw PERSON, a recovering entrepreneur, for answers to your questions and much more. Right here on Kelly and Rubia WORK_OF_ART.

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Second Wednesday of the month is when we check in with Kevin. And, Kev, you wanted to talk about cybersecurity for our small businesses today. And even if it's as small as just you running the business.

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So do you have any examples of how easy it can be to fall victim to a cyber crime? And honestly, you just need to go to news headlines these days.

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Yeah, pretty much. Thanks for having me. There's a story that I heard recently about a woman who worked at a bank and she got a request to transfer a large amount of money to one of the bank clients. It was kind of suspicious of it, went through all the controls, went through all the controls. And the email that she got was from her boss,or like the head of the bank. And she emailed and said, hey, is this real? And got an email back within a few minutes. Yep, it's real. You know, if you want to talk about it,I'm happy to have a conference call. Got on a conference call. The boss was there. there were other staff there, did the whole meeting. You know, she's like, is this normal? Yes, it's normal. Go ahead with the transfer. Did the transfer and that flagged something in the security system. They had a meeting and they discovered that the email, the video conference call, you know, the request from our boss, everything was all generated by AI. Oh, yeah.

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Man.

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Wow.

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That's pretty intense.

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Oh, and just so, is this what I have to worry about now all the time?

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My gosh, talk about frightening.

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And there's a, and we know, Kevin PERSON, yeah, but then the fun, the good news is it'll keep changing on us.

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How can you educate yourself and your team, especially up against these odds, these problems?

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Well, don't do it yourself, right?

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Like, I think a lot of small business owners, when they start out, you know, certainly when I started out,

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it's like you've got to take all of the stuff into consideration yourself and, you know, certainly when I started out, it's like you've got to take

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all of the stuff into consideration yourself and, you know, handle your own security and storing your own data. And you can do that only so far. Like, you only know what you know. And so the best way to do that is to partner yourself with organizations that specialize in cybersecurity for your business. So don't try to host your own customer data. Don't try to host your own, you know, whether it's calendars or emails or whatever, anything you're dealing with sensitive information.There are companies out there that will specialize in this for businesses that you can look into. And yes, there's a cost to doing that. But, you know, there's also a deeper cost into not considering these things. And especially when you're dealing with what's called PII or personally identifiable information. So that's, you know, your name, your address, your phone number, your credit card number. These are things that you don't want to fall into the wrong hands.

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Yeah, and I guess, like, really the gist of it is now, do we know better than the hackers, right? Like, do we have enough on the protecting side of things to deal with what may happen? And unfortunately, a lot of us, the answer for us personally is no. Like, I do not know enough about what's going on behind the scenes. I have to have somebody who knows how to directly deal with or protect our business or stuff from...

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Well, these companies, you know, you're paying them to think like a hacker. Exactly. And you're paying them to think like somebody who is, you know, maybe in the identity theft game or they might put something on your system that is demanding some money, you know, what they call ransomware.

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And, you know, the more of those loopholes that you can close,

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you know, the better and safer it is for you.

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And that's why you would bring somebody on board who is external to you,

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who doesn't know you, who can evaluate these things, you know, from an external perspective. And who knows what's out there? And how to adjust to it?

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What you're fighting against?

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah. Exactly. Okay. What elements, like, do you have more on the kinds of elements that need to be outsourced for security?

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Well, I think it's a really good idea to give yourself a little bit of education and give yourself you and your staff some education.

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So, you know, talk about fishing, which is not F-I-S-H, but P-H-I-S-H.

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So, you know, fishing for information is what they call it, where somebody will do some, quote-unquote, social engineering to get your name and to get your password and to get your favorite color and your pet's name and your kids' names because these are what they can use to start hacking your password.And then there's now what's called vishing, which is voice fishing. And voice fishing is where I can take, you know, I can take, you know, Kelly PERSON's voice and approximate that with some AI and use Kelly PERSON's voice to, you know, I can take, you know, Kelly's voice and approximate that with some AI and use Kelly's voice to, you know, call somebody who might know Kelly and say, hey, this is Kelly McDonald PERSON.You know, I need you to send me $200 right now. And, of course, it's not really Kelly because Kelly doesn't need $200.

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Let's just face it.

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One of the many voices of Kelly PERSON.

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It's always good to be aware of these kinds of things that are going on in, you know,

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in the cybercrime world.

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Wow.

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And it's so funny because you do things now, I find, you know, if I get a call and it's

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just like nothing and I'm hearing that whatever noise or maybe nothing.

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And I, hello, now I start doing no more hello or who's here. What's a say something? Speed. We all used to get that.

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Come on, speed. Now that's dangerous. So now I just, hmm. Yeah, you don't know what that.

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Hmm. Hmm. Yeah. I didn't. If they choose to answer them, hmm, then great. What other security

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support should we be looking for?

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Well, I think it's great if you're a small business owner to get together with other small business owners, whether it's virtually or in person and just talk about cybersecurity in general. You know, talk about the threats that you're facing. Talk about the scams that you've seen. Talk about the things that you've, you know about the scams that you've seen, talk about the things that you've heard other people go throughso that your community and the people that you talk to are aware and alert as to what's going on. Obviously, you don't want to be the person to go in with the story saying, hey, you know, this happened to me and it cost me.

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This is me.

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Thousands of dollars to get fixed. You want to make sure that your community, whether there's people in your industry or just people in your, you know, local neighborhood or the mall or the, you know, the strip plaza, or wherever you're doing your business, that they're constantly thinking about cybercrime and cybersecurity and taking a proactive approach to it.

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What about online searching for answers to some of these questions? If we said, well, geez, I'd like to know the right things to do cybersecurity wise to protect my, is there a lot of danger fishing around out there, you know, these hackers, these people who landed this person on this site? This is what, is there that concern? I mean, you're always take what you see out there with a grand assault,but is there some danger in looking, following some of the advice out there? Well,

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I think there are some reliable resources. Obviously, you want to look at, you know, blogs from reputable cybersecurity companies. Your Norton's and your McCaffees and your, you know, blogs from reputable cybersecurity companies, your Norton's and your Macafe's and yourassets and all of those players, they've got blogs and they can tell you, you know, how to be smart and how to be secure. And again, you can ask for advice from community, ask for advice from people who specialize in this for a living, and they can give you the lowdown on what it is that you need to know. The other thing that I'd recommend is that you look into, especially if you're running a business that deals in personally identifiable information,is that you look into cybersecurity insurance. What is that?

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So that if you do get hacked or something does happen, that you're covered and that you have

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an insurance policy that is going to cover you in the event that something happens with customer data or even your personal data, if you get a ransomware attack or something. And this is kind of a growing space in the insurance world. I'm not qualified to speak on that, but I'm sure there are some great cyber insurance folks who would love to come on and talk more about that.

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In kind of the same vein of cyber insurance and also at the same time, not at all cyber insurance, we're basically relying on online retailers, like the cloud, a cloud of some sort for most of our storage and data and protection and encryption and management of encryption as well, right? Like everything we're doing with our online data is also being stored online. So is there anything you wanted to say around that? Because I think it can be kind of a loop to fall into for cybersecurity context. Right. And I mean, you're only as, you're only as

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like, you've got to take some responsibility here. So it's one thing to say, well, you know,

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what, everything's up in Dropbox and I've got a password and, and then the Dropbox password

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manager is managing my passwords.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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So, you know, you want to take some, you want to take some responsibility for that.

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And maybe once a year, once a quarter, once every half year, do a cybersecurity audit on yourself, on your team, on your company. You know, have I worked with contractors that have given access to my website to, I don't know, put up some designs or edit some photos or whatever? Okay, these contractors are no longer working with me. I'm going to revoke their access.And it's good to go through every so often and make sure that you do those cleanups and check with your providers that they are, that they're up to snuff. Maybe you're regularly engaging in changing passwords and documenting that for your team.But you've got to take some responsibility here and not just hope that the cloud is going to fix everything.

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And speaking of accountability and responsibility as well is for all sizes of businesses, making sure that employees and people are following protocol, right? And security protocols and that you're keeping tabs on all of that stuff.

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Absolutely. You know, even if you're a two on. Absolutely. All of that stuff. Absolutely. You know, even if you're a, you know, two-person operation or, you know, family business,

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you want to make sure that this is something that you take very seriously and that, you know, that you're not being loose with, you know, making your password admin or password or password one, two, three. You know, you want to make sure that you're revoking access where it needs to be revoked and keeping tabs on the people that you work with.

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Maybe they're suppliers or maybe their contractors or maybe their customers and making sure that you're being smart about how you administer these security resources and doing cybersecurity the right way.

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Safety, if you do mess up, is there any way to protect ourselves, such as insurance?

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Yeah, insurance is one way to go. You also want to make sure that whoever it is that you've hired to do that security piece for you is conducting audits regularly. So this is something that often slips our minds as business owners. I'm just busy running my business or getting customers or what have you. You know, have that cybersecurity company come knock on your door.Hey, it's cybersecurity time. We're going to go through an audit. And, you know, it's kind of one of those necessary evils, I guess, to walk through with your business. But, you know, audits, insurance, and then training, making sure that your team is aware of the threats that are out there, that they know about all of the, you know, all the scams that are going out, the newest scams, and that they're educating themselves. Yeah.

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I think that this is one of the most, you know, relevant conversations we have had with you, Kevin PERSON, and yet some of the most under, like, talked about, right?

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Like, we don't necessarily, because we're all living in such a virtual world, so we're like, yeah, obviously these things are, you know, being taken care of, but really are they, though. And when it comes to a business, there's the data, and then there's your website, and then there's email correspondence, and there's people kind of mixing professional and personal, like with the work-life balance stuff. Invoices.Money. Exactly. There's just a lot going on. And clearly, like, one of the biggest things I've picked up from this entire chat is you need consultation. Like, we just don't know enough to make any of these decisions.

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You don't know what you don't know.

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Mm-hmm. Yeah. And that we're not immune, right? Like you talked about this earlier. If you're a sister organization or business or a neighbor organization business has gotten hacked,then you might be next in line. Like, we have to expose our vulnerabilities, which can be tough, especially for the bigger players, but still.

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Yeah, and, you know, if you're today, you can run, you know, a pretty complicated website and e-commerce and all that stuff with one or two people. And so if somebody gets access to that system and, you know, starts messing around and, you know, all of a sudden you're, you know, the service that you provide is down or that you can't get products for a couple of weeks because you've been, you know, you've been hacked. You don't have time to deal with that. That's lost dollars. That's hurting your brand. That's hurting your reputation.And those costs are not things that you can put a price tag on. Exactly.

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Exactly. Thank you so much. Very insightful. Thanks.

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And let me give one more plug before I leave you. Exactly. Thank you so much. Very insightful. Thanks. And let me give one more plug before I leave you. Sure. We are shooting a live special for Mind Your Own Business WORK_OF_ART. That's the show that I host here on AMI TV ORG. We're shooting a live special in Toronto next Friday, May 17th, in the afternoon. And we would love to have you there in the audience.I know that you guys have done a live special before. And it was great.

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So we're doing the same thing for mind your own business. And we would love to have you in the

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audience. If you want to go, just email audience at Apple Orchard Productions.com ORG. It's no funny spellings. It's Apple the way Apple is spelled Orchard ORG, the way Orchard Productions.com. It's no funny spellings. It's Apple the way Apple is spelled Orchard, the way Orchard ORG is spelled. Productions ORG, the way Productions is spelled. Dot com. So audience at Apple Orchard Productions.com ORG.And I hope to meet you there. Fantastic. And there's going to be kind of a panel, right,

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of different entrepreneurs?

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Yes.

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What we're doing is we're bringing back

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four of the entrepreneurs from previous seasons.

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Can you believe that we're just about to shoot season four of my drone business?

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So we're bringing four entrepreneurs back from the previous three seasons to find out where they are now, how things have gone with their businesses over the past couple of years. And the mentors will be there. I'll be there. And hopefully you'll be there too.

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Cool. Well, all the best, and I'm sure it'll be fun. Thank you. Thank you.

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Thanks to have good luck with it.

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Thank you.

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Kevin Shaw, if you want more advice from him, you can check out Mind Your Own Business WORK_OF_ART. It's available on AMIplus.ca, and he'll be back next month for more business chat.

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Last year, when they kicked season three off, they were at shops at Don Mills right there outside the AMI ORG office.

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Wow, that was cool, yeah. We'll be right back with a lot more about our program for tomorrow.

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We'll check out now at Dave Brown PERSON in a quick closing moment right after this.

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We'll be back with more of Kelly and Ramya PERSON after this short break. Thanks for being with us, ladies and gentlemen.

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The whole show, okay, okay, the last, all right, three minutes. Appreciate your time. Hope you enjoyed the promo ahead of this break. We would like to remind you, if by chance you are that person who didn't catch much of the show, go back and check out the podcast. Subscribe using your favorite podcast platform. Maybe give us a rating and review while you're in there. You can check out the show in segment form or the complete podcastexperience where we also, at the end of that, toss on an audio vanity card. Our Beth Deere PERSON, who is actually leaving us for a little while, she will provide today's card for us, her last one with us before she leaves. So do take some time and check that out our audio vanity card by subscribing to the full Kelly PERSON and Rumia podcast. Rum, what's coming up tomorrow on now with Dave Brown PERSON?

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Okay, starting at 90 Eastern Time TIME. They're talking about Apple's unveiling new iPads PRODUCT. That was from Tuesday. They're making changes across the entire lineup. Marco Flala PERSON is going to break it all down for us. Vancouver Community Reporter Nathan Clement is part of the parac cycling team for Canada GPE,and he's going to join from Italy GPE to give us more updates on what he's up to. And Michael McNally PERSON, film critic who joins him on the show, is reviewing the new Ryan Gosling movie, The Fall Guy WORK_OF_ART.

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Okay, Fall Guy WORK_OF_ART. I remember that series back in the 80s, anxious to see how that falls out, as a matter of fact. Anyway, our closing moment today, folks, there's a surprising reason why robots can't outrun the fastest animals. By reviewing and referring to more than 100 previous studies and pitting robots against animals in categories like power, sensing, actuation,and sensing and control, the answers are kind of a surprising one. It's not that our most advanced robots are so behind in any particular category. The problem is we haven't figured out how to combine all these different elements together, as well as millions of years of evolution have, well, not been our favor for robots. At the system level, robots are just not as good, says mechanical engineer, Koshak Jiam, from the University of Colorado at Boulder ORG. We run into inherent design tradeoffs, he says, if we try to optimize for one thing,such as forward speed, you know, it just doesn't work because we end up being compromised in another area. Now, as an example, he says, as he points to a cockroach-inspired robot, but it's speedy moving forward and backwards, but struggles when it moves over a different surface, when it isn't flat or has to change direction. Animals, in their own way,the embodiment of the best design principle, assistant that functions really well together. That's kind of the result when you think about it, and it makes sense for them, because nature has really outfitted all of us animals with the best tools.

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I mean, it would make for a great philosophical follow-up for sure about nature's designs, don't you think?

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Yeah, and it doesn't matter how small, whether it's an insect or whatever. Oh, yeah.

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They've noticed this. Anyway, folks, on our program tomorrow, accessible gamer, Marcus McCracken PERSON joins us. He has his review of Sony's long-anticipated superhero sequel, Spider-Man 2. Audio Entertainment with Michael Fair PERSON will include a new-found land. That's a clever mix of cloak and dagger, science fiction, and fantasy audio drama.

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Fedora is off to you, folks. Catch you tomorrow at 2 p.m. Eastern for more on Kelly PERSON and Rumia. Hi everyone.

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It is Beth Deer here with the Kelly and Ramia PERSON show. Feels weird. That's the last time I'm going to say that for a while. This is officially my last fantasy card before I go on maternity leave. I cannot believe it. Also, apologies if there's any background noise.It is very hot in my house and I have my window open, which is, again, crazy that we're at the time of year where I can actually have my window open, which is, again, crazy that we're at the time of year where I can actually have my window open. I just want to say a huge thank you to the Kelly and Romier PERSON team, I think, in my opinion, at least. I think our team is just very lucky, you know, like we're always so respectful of one another. And honestly, this is the healthiest environment I have ever worked in, and I'm actually really going to miss everyone.We talk every day, every weekday at least, and run down the show. And I definitely talk about some random stuff too. And I'm really going to miss that for sure. But I will absolutely be back. I plan to take 12 months, but, you know, things change. But hopefully I will only be away for 12 months but you know things change but hopefully uh hopefully i will only be away for 12months and um yeah i just feel incredibly lucky to have worked and hopefully continue to work with everyone um such a fantastic team such a fantastic show all our contributors are great and really don't have anything bad to say at all about anyone I work with. Like I just, yeah, like I just feel so, so lucky to work with all these fantastic people, contributors and team members. And I love the show.And it's hilarious actually because my two-year-old daughter is also obsessed with the show. And she hears a theme tune and she says, Calliam Ramiya PERSON. So I'm sure I will still tune into the show often. But, you know, she watches it every single day when she has her lunch uh she absolutely loves it so um it's going to be i think it's going to be strange for everyone uh in my house to not be as involved in the show as we have been for the last nearly year DATE sooh goodness i don't really know how to end this, but, but yeah, I am incredibly lucky to work on the Kelly and Ramia PERSON show with the people I do. And I'm ready for maternity leave. I'm ready to meet my baby and not be pregnant anymore. But I'm really going to miss everyone. So I will be back. We will talk again soon. But yeah, just stay well, everyone.And have a fantastic summer.

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Bye. I'm Margaret Shepherd of the AMI podcast Tripping on Air. Every month, my co-host, Alex Hajar and I spill the tea on what it's really like to live with MS. Watch Tripping on Air WORK_OF_ART on YouTube or download wherever you get your pods.