NASCAR HoF Nominees, All-Star Rules, Dover Picks!

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77:57 minutes

published 1 month ago

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Copyright Wilson's Race Report / In The Draft Show

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Start your engine.

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Two, one. Green, great, great. Inside. Smoking like hell now. Clear. Good job.It's coming now. Come on. Don't do anything stupid.

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And welcome everyone to end the draft with Wilson and Woz PERSON. I'm Wilson here in sunny Southern California LOC. Meanwhile, right across your internet from your beautiful studio by the bay. I can't even say it right. It is one Mr. Scottie Waz PERSON. What's happening in there, Wasman? It's supposed to get the 90s here. I haven't seen the 90s by the bay. I can't even say it right. It is one Mr. Scotti-Waz. What's happening in there was, man?It's supposed to get in the 90s here.

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I haven't seen the 90s in a while.

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We have that here.

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Oh, yeah.

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And not only do we have that here.

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All right, so this is, we just got done with Coachella EVENT,

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two weekends of Coachella EVENT.

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And then Stage Coach this weekend. I'm not kidding you. If you go outside right now, I would never go with the stage coach when it looks like this, or Coach'm not kidding you. If you go outside right now, I would never go with the stage coach when it looks like this, or Coachella EVENT for that matter. If you're traveling here this weekend for the big show, definitely bring something to cover your face. Because when you go outside and youlook at like, say, the moon at night, you obviously don't look at the sun during the day. But it looks like it's foggy, but it's not fog. It's all sand in the air. It's just sand everywhere. So Dayrood GPE predicted that

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with the sandstorm. Yeah, definitely big sandstorm. I hope they're playing this weekend. That'd be great. Yeah. Wait, who predicted it? Dayrood GPE, sandstorm.

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Oh, exactly. Yep, yep. Remember that song fromod, sandstorm. Oh, oh, there. Exactly.

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Yep, yep.

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Remember that song from the early 90s?

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I do, I do.

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Yeah. Great.

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But yeah, that's what it's like here.

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So 90 plus degrees and sandstorm. Just day rude playing all the time.

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Exactly.

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And avoided.

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Sometimes it's like that here.

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And strangely enough, I would argue that standing outside in a sandstorm,

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listening to either sandstorm or listening to anything happening at stagecoach, probably would be more interesting than what we saw last weekend at Talladega FAC. Are you kidding me, man? It's super speedway, baby. Everyone loves Talladega FAC. They're out me, man? It's super Speedway, baby. Everyone loves Talladega. They're out there in the motor coaches.They are.

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Yeah, yeah. They do party.

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I hate, I mean, it's just me cynical. I just, or I don't know if it's me being cynical for the way NASCAR ORG markets things. In that, just they overhyped everything.

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And it just gets to the point of just stop it and do something better with your production of the damn race.

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Yeah and it's funny because there was like a I think there was a record like 72 lead changes or something like that.

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It's a track rate.

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Exactly. It doesn't tell the story at all.

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I mean, this was your classic, you know, restrictor plate race, even though it's not a restrictor plate race. It was your classic plate race where the last five laps were super interesting and super exciting. You didn't know what was happened. The tension or what was going to happen. The tension was building up. And then we got like some craziness at the end. But up until then, boring is crap. And it has the newly added facet of the fact that all of

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these drivers, and they figured this out at Atlanta too, which races like a plate track.

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And they've been progressively getting more and more good with the math on this.

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And they're like, we don't need to actually race. We'll just save gas for the first segment and the second segment. And they'll race for the third segment. Well, it goes back to what we've been saying for a freaking decade and a half. Just make the effing races shorter. Yeah.

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You know, let's not give them the opportunity.

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If they're only going to race for a third of the race, make the race a third of the length. Yeah. No, it doesn't make a damn bit of sense of what they're. If they're only going to race for a third of the race, make the race a third of the length. Yeah.

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No, I just, it doesn't make a damn bit of sense of what they're doing, what they're doing it. But again, NASCAR ORG can't get out of their own way. No.And they just don't, because it's one of those things where it's just like, well, they want everyone wants a five heads tradition, 500 miles, 300 miles,this amount of laps, this amount of laps. It's like, yeah, but guess what? Traditions changed, man.

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There wasn't a pitch clock in baseball 100 years ago, but look where we're at now, and the game's somewhat flourishing. Exactly.

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I mean, you got translated betting on games, whatever. That's beside the point.

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Yeah, but it's crazy. So, yes, the M was interesting. You know, Tyler Redick PERSON wins. It was a bit of a surprise. It really had come down to Michael McDowell, Scotty's versus Brad Kislauski PERSON, my pick. And it was like,

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out there. I was like, dude, this is crazy. I can't believe that your pick is in the lead and my pick is right behind and something is going to happen and something did. And Kez PERSON gets a good push, tries to go high. McDowell blocks. Kislausowski PERSON does not want to lift, but also, to his credit, and this is a guy who said before, if you block me, I will run you over.

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And he at least tried not to run McDowell PERSON over. Instead, he immediately dove down to the bottom of the track. He drove so far down to McDowell PERSON had no choice but to like crank the wheel to the left and I don't think they they were very ambiguous about this on the broadcast but I don't think there

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was even any contact between the two no I think it was arrow yeah McDowell PERSON just came down so hard

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and had to like correct and the air came off his spoiler as he was correcting and and it just sent him spinning had this big wreck and you thought that maybe Kez PERSON was going to win, but of course, because there was a guy spinning in front of me, had to lift just the slightest bit, and that allowed Teler Redick PERSON to stream by for the win. Was that part exciting?Yes, in terms of a close finish, and a guy who you didn't think was going to win the race, won the race. But the real drama was the massive wreck happening behind everybody that ended up injuring Eric Jones. We'll talk about him in a second.

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There was one guy. I can't remember his was earlier. Oh, that's right. His was earlier.

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You're right about that. Yeah, because they talked to him. Yeah, yeah, you're right. But there was huge wreck.

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There was a guy up on the side of the wall riding around. Somebody was upside down at one point, you know.

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And if you like that, if you're watching for a massive wreck, well, then I guess you got your payoff. But if you're watching for a massive wreck, are you really that big of a fan?

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No, it's honestly, go to your local track and get the demolition derby on Friday night.

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Yeah, exactly. You know? But I mean, but that's what NASCAR ORG sells. Yeah. That's the problem with this. Is that NASCAR ORG sells, hey, you're going to see fast cars and probably someoneflip a couple times. Like even with these new cars, it's one of those deals where it's just like, yeah, you don't, who knows what's going to happen? Right. You could have a guy from Australia win his first race. You could have someone just flip over and over and over again.Yeah. Who's to say? And the thing about it is, you know, in the wake of this race, in the aftermath of this race, you know, you have people saying, what do we do to stop these drivers from just going out there and conserving fuel? Because I read one article where they said that the average speed of this race was a full five miles an hour slower than the race last year with the same exact cars, right?Wow. And so, I mean, I can't do the math there, but over five, well, actually, I could do the math. So over 500 miles, because they're racing 500 miles, right?

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So five miles an hour is, crap, I can't do, I can't do the math.

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But, but, you know, I mean, five miles an hour makes the race appreciably longer for no reason, right?

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And more importantly, the guys aren't like racing 100%.

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Yeah.

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And so the big question becomes, how do you solve that?

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We saw it in Atlanta.

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We've seen it now at Talladega FAC.

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And guess what? We're going to see it at Daytona and we're going to see it at the second Talladega FAC. So how do you change that? How do you solve that? And the crazy part, the crazy part is NASCAR ORG realizes this and they said, oh, we're looking into solutions. The talk in the garage was, you know what we need to do.We need to add another stage to the effing race. And the thought process there is if you have three stage breaks, then with the typical fuel run at Talladega FAC, you could make it on four tanks of fuel. So beginning of the race, first stage, second stage, third stage. That would get you to the end. And so now guys are going to race.They're going to run because they know they're going to have these guaranteed places where they can come into the pits under caution and get fuel. Because what they were worried about is if there wasn't a wreck, they would have to come in during a green flag stop. And if you make even the slightest mistake during a green flag stop at Talladega or Daytona FAC, you're aft, you know?You're not going to be out there with a group and then you're just going to get lost by yourself. You're going to get lapped. But in my mind, I was like, wait a minute. We are exacerbating the problem. This only exists. The problem only exists because of the stages.And proof of that is if you look at NASCAR racing at Talladega or Daytona FAC before there were stages, you weren't seeing people doing this. You weren't seeing people in the middle of the race, the beginning of the race, just going out there and saving fuel. Why? Because there were no guaranteed spots to come in and get fuel. So you didn't have a place to fuel race too, right?

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And so their solution is, okay, so we created stages and that's made this big problem.

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So let's just have more effing stages.

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Yeah, I don't, I counterpointed that.

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Cut 30 laps.

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Yeah.

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Who gives a good, goddamn about the 500 miles, man?

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I say, I say take away the stages.

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They're not going to do that, though.

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So I would argue that the next best solution is to do what, to do the only smart thing NASCAR ORG has ever done when it comes to stages, but then they took away this year and just do it like they did with road courses last year. You fly the green white checkered, but the race never ends. You just keep going. Right. And now you can't fuel race because there's not going to be a guaranteed caution at a guaranteed lap that you know is going tohappen. And so now you actually have to run the race like a race.

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Yeah. And that's just it. They're trying, I wonder if they're trying to cater to the driver so they don't have to give up any more of licensing fees. Like, it's just like, guys, we're going to add another thing. You can get a pit stop. Don't worryabout the hundred millions of dollars behind me. It's all ours. I think that in the end, guys, we're going to add another thing. You can get a pit stop. Don't worry about the hundred millions of dollars behind me.

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It's all ours.

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I think that in the end, that's what's going to happen,

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is they are going to add the fourth stage simply because they want to end the fuel run thing.

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And they know that that would, A, accomplish it and B, give all of their TV partners another opportunity to sell ads.

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So, how's that going to work when it goes to Amazon ORG? Amazon ORG will.

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They don't sell ads. Sure they will. They'll sponsor stuff. Yeah, but it's not like their traditional TV. Yeah. They'll find a way to monetize that crap.I can find a way to advertise it, like, without having to go to commercial break, too. Yeah, they'll monetize it. Don't even worry. Oh, I know that, but I'm just saying it's like that that's not a big selling point for Amazon because they can find a way to wedge ads in. Yeah.That's not like they need a break to wedge an ad in.

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True. So, I mean, I think that's my main concern for this. But back to McDowell PERSON real quick. Yeah.

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Dale Jr. was on his podcast saying that he ran into McDowell PERSON in the pickup line at the school where both their kids go. Interesting.

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When you said pickup line, I was thinking of something different.

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So that's good.

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That it was in the school. Dale Jr.'s PERSON bar.

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Yeah, exactly.

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But no, they met at the kid's pickup line.

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And he's like, McDowell PERSON's like, I don't know what you'd have done there.

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And Dale Jr. PERSON, he's like, I would have blocked once.

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And they got down me again.

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It's like, you got past me. Right.

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Okay. So let's talk about that because I emailed that to you right after the race happened, but I did not put that in our notes. There is a rule in Formula One that you can block one time to avoid the exact thing that we just saw in Talladega FAC.So in that instance, under those types of rules, when Brad Keselowski PERSON got the push, he goes high, Michael McDowell PERSON aggressively blocks high, when Kez PERSON makes that moveto the bottom of the track, that's it. McDowell PERSON in that situation has no more moves left and he either needs to race it back to the line or get past if the other guy made a more clever move. That's all you get, right? And to me, in this instance, at tracks like that specifically, that kind of rule makes sense.And going back to what you just said about, you know, Dale Jr. and Michael McDowell PERSON, I think that Dale Jr. PERSON, even without a rule like that, I think that his philosophy there is the smart one. You make that block, right? And listen, Kez PERSON might have some momentum, but you're now in front of him. He's got to swerve all the way down the track. There is no guarantee that he's going to end up passing you.Maybe he will, maybe he won't. But there are only two scenarios there if he doesn't make that second move and end up breaking himself. If he stays up high, then Kez PERSON has burned off enough momentum by going to the bottom of the track that he can't quite make the pass by the start finish line and McDowell PERSON wins. Or if he doeshave enough momentum and he makes that second move and McDowell PERSON doesn't go down there, then they're racing side by side and yeah, maybe Keselowski PERSON beats him for the win but he still finishes second. I don't think anybody is going to force their way by him to force him to third.And even if they did, even if Reddick PERSON did shove his nose up in there, so he finishes third. First, second or third is a lot better than he finished by making that second move. Right, exactly.

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He doesn't finish 31st. Yep. Yep. That way. But I mean, but I guess if you're going for a win, you're thinking,you know, you're not, maybe you're not thinking. You're just going on Instagram ORG. You're not. You're just trying to win the race.Yeah. Also, I will say that Dale Jr.'s latest podcast with Casey Atwood PERSON, so I got to watch that.

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Oh, I didn't know he did. That's his regular podcast, but he had Casey PERSON as a guest.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, nice. Yeah, Casey Atwood PERSON doesn't do any interviews. Yeah.

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Nobody's heard from him forever, man.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So that's the Dale Jr. PERSON gets into that.

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Wow.

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At least from the clips that I saw, I'm like, I don't listen to this whole dang thing.

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Yeah.

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Is that, I guess that's new.

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Did you hear any of it?

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I heard some of it.

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And the reason why, like, he, he doesn't do anything. He's because, like, he doesn't want to remember his racing career. Because it was a failure. Well, he. And his words Because it was a failure. In his words, it was a failure. It was a bit of a struggle and of course he camehighly, highly touted.

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Yeah, so, and so I'm sure they get into that whole thing. So it's an interesting, interesting thing that I'll have to listen to this weekend.

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I can't see how, by the way, only 43.

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Oh, all right? Yeah, I know, right? So apparently I'm watching a clip now as I scroll through Instagram ORG. He says that he didn't want to go to Cup because he only went there because he thought it was a good opportunity. And, yeah, it was pitched to him. And there he is. He didn't want to go to Cup initially because he thought it was too much.So there was a lot of pressure on him.

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Wow. Wow. Of course, he drove the 19 car and then the seven car for

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Everingham. And he finished 26th his first full season, 35th, his second full season,

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and then that was it, a couple of spot races after that. And then he was done. He did go back to the Xfinity series, but only for spot races here. And he did run the entire 2014 season for Fitz Bradshaw PERSON. And finished, it looks like 19th there. Oh, he didn't make the entire season.

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But he finished 19th, having missed one, two, three, four, five races.

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Yeah, you know, I could see that. It's very interesting. I'll definitely want to listen to that because nowadays, we have seen drivers that have come up to the Cup series. They've tried it for a year or two, got unceremoniously booted, and then gone back to the X-Funity series, and they've actually done quite well.And then you've got somebody like Justin Algeyer PERSON who, you know, has really been like, hey, X is where I'm going to be. And that's it.

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Like Algar was brought up in a bad situation with Penske ORG.

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Exactly. It was a very similar type of situation. And so I'm very curious, you know,

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maybe it was just the timing that, you know, why, why Casey Outwood PERSON couldn't have tried to make the same

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type of move, you know? Well, I think also, I don't think there was a powerhouse. Like, Fitz PERSON,

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Fitz Bradshaw PERSON was at that point in the down swing. Right. Of their, of their sensationalist situation. But, I mean, you look at the powerhouse that Algar PERSON got jumped into. Yeah. To Jr.J.R JR Motorsports ORG and being the cornerstone

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of that. I mean, that helps a lot. I mean, resources help a whole hell of a lot. And I think that by the time Casey Atwood got to Fitz Bradshaw PERSON, they were just on their downturn. I think it really also helped out because now I'm looking atJustin Algeir's PERSON stats. And he was A, with a much worse cup team in H. Scott Motorsports as opposed to Evernham ORG. I have very similar results with H. Scott Motorsportsfor a similar amount of time to full seasons. But before that, before that, he was with Penske, he was with Turner and Turner Scott PERSON. And as we all know, Turner Scott in Xfinity ORG was far better than H. Scott was in the Cup series.And he was pretty good. I mean, he H. Scott was in the Cup series. Oh, absolutely. And he was pretty good. I mean, he was in single digits in the championship every single year before he came to Cup. And then, of course, then when he wanted to go back to Xfinity ORG, then somebody like the Eleanor Jr. You are smart enough to know that, hey, this guy was pretty good in X before.And he was saddled with not the greatest team in the world in the Cup series. So I'm going to give him an opportunity. And he's, he's shined since then, shockingly never having won a championship, though.Weird how that happens. It is. He's been close multiple times,

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many times. He's like the Mark Martin PERSON of,

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oh,

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yeah, of X-Finity ORG series for sure.

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Yeah. Or the Denny Hamlin PERSON now. Or the Denny Hamlet of the X-Femite series EVENT, yeah, for sure. All right, so there was that big, not the bigny Hamlet of the X-Feminist series EVENT, yeah, for sure. All right.So there was that big, not the big wreck, but there was the wreck that Eric Jones PERSON was involved in. And initially, he was treated and released from the infield care center. And he did an interview and he said, you know, my back is sore, but I'm going to be okay. Well, he wasn't okay. And it turned out that he kept complaining enough that they sent him to the hospital. They did some x-rays.And they determined that he actually has a fracture, compression fracture, in one of his lower vertebrae. The team has announced that he's going to be out for Dover GPE. And Corey Haim is going to wear his sunglasses at night and be in the car. He is going to be in the 43 car.

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He's their designated reserve driver, which I didn't realize was a thing for them.

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Corey PERSON Hame is the other guy with the other Corey.

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He wasn't the sunglasses at night guy. Oh, that's true.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But here's a thing, and this is just me.

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You know, we've seen multiple drivers in the past couple of years fracture something.

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I mean, Eric Amarola PERSON is a great, great case. He had that, you know, big incident where his car went up in the air and slammed down. He fractured a vertebrae. He was out for weeks on end.

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I can't remember how many. I can look it up. I do not think that this is going to be a one race thing for Eric Jones PERSON. Oh, God, no. Yeah. He looks like six races.

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Was it six?

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Yeah, after it was in Kansas GPE that he had.

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It was in Kansas GPE. Yeah, the car.

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Seven races.

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Yeah, he car went up and like slam down and then yeah, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven.

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Yeah. So I would expect that we would be looking at something very similar for Eric Jones PERSON. Oh, absolutely. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And I mean, that's, that's rough for him.

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I mean, oddly enough, same car. Yes. Yes, you're right. It, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, that's, that's, that's rough for him. I mean, oddly enough, same car.

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Yes.

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Yes, you're right. It was the same car. Yep. And, you know, NASCAR ORG has already granted him a medical waiver. So when he does eventually come back, he would be championship eligible if he satisfies all of the requirements.Remember, it's not just winning, but he also has to be

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in the top, I guess, 36 in points. I don't know if they have that anymore. I think they took the top

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30 roll out. Oh, really? Okay. So maybe you just has to win. Still, still a tall order for Eric Jones PERSON.

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Oh, absolutely. Especially after sitting out for a while. Absolutely. So, I mean, it's a tough,

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it's a tough spot, especially for a guy who is, you know, everyone's just like, oh, new team, new, new, new manufacturer, right?

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Let's go, baby.

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And now it's kind of a standstill.

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So rough, rough break.

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But now, now we have to wait and see what Corey Ham PERSON does, the backup to the assistant to the assistant to a regional manager.

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Yeah, he is the assistant to the regional manager.

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Yeah.

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All right, let's talk about ratings for this one.

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It was strange because after a couple of weeks of Fox

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like touting with big

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graphics on social media

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about their ratings, I didn't see anything.

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I was like, wait, what's going on? Well, that's because it's down. So 4.31 million on Fox ORG. Last year they had 4.55 million. So it's down about a quarter of a million or so, less than a quarter of a million.That's still, it feels like a decent number, right? Over four million.

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But then there was somebody,

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and I think we've talked about, I don't know if it's the same person or if multiple people are posting similar types of graphs, but there was somebody in the comments of Adam Stern's PERSON social media who posted a graph. And I love it when I see these because you get a real, like a real feel for where things were, where things are. And it was a line graphfor the past decade, basically, from 2014 to 2024 for the first Talladega FAC race. And it is dramatic. I mean, in 2014, the number for this exact same raceon Fox ORG, 6.9 million. 6.9 million. 6.9 million people watched this race a decade ago. And I'm sure the stands were packedand the infield was like, you know, crazy at night. By 2018, four years later, four years later, it was down to 4.76 million.Then it went down, went down and up, then down and down, to the point where we are now where we're at 4.3 million, the lowest number ever on Foxfor that race, even though 4.3 million sounds good in comparison of what we've been talking about the past couple of weeks, because the past couple of weeks it's been on FS1 ORG.

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Yeah. Yeah, it's been on FS1 ORG. Yeah. Yeah, it's a, uh, uh, uh, uh,Ron H2. Oh, there, yes, yes, that's who,that's who, that's who posted it. You're right. Yeah, he's, uh,uh, that, uh, that's, uh, that's, uh,

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so, so I just, I'll just, graphs, thank you very much. Yeah.

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Um, yeah, but God, that's just a big slump, dude. That's like, that's like, that's like, that's like, DJT ORG stock quotes right there, man, but God, that's just a big slump, dude. That's like, that's like DJT stock quotes right there, man.Just a slide down there. Yeah. Um, Todd PERSON, does I see political tweets?

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Um, but what is, but again, what is NASCAR ORG doing to, yeah, to keep, to keep people engaged?

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What is NASCAR ORG doing to, to, to retain people after an initial burst, after initial thing? Like, were you going to, like, were you going to, to, to keep, to keep people engaged. What is NASCAR doing to retain people after an initial burst, after initial thing? Like, were you going to ride the Chase Elliott momentum in a Talladega FAC? Apparently not. Right, right.

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You know, it was funny because there were two other replies to that thread that I found

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were interesting. One, somebody said, oh, it's the Chase Elliott PERSON effect. And I don't know if they were being facetious and saying, hey, you know, because Chase ORG won, you would expect to bump and we didn't get one. Or if they were saying, or if they were trying to be literal and just clueless and saying, oh, because Chase won the rating, Chase didn't win Talladega FAC. The ratings were down, which doesn't make sense because how would people preeminently know that Chase ORG L.A. wasn't going to win the race, you know?

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So the ratings don't go away because your favorite driver didn't win the race.

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And then the other response, so they posted a screenshot.

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There's a couple of fucking gold ones in here, by the way.

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Well, there were somebody posted.

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You're going to have to edit that one.

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No, sorry. But there were a couple of screen. There was one post that had a screenshot. It was a side by side on um netflix about formula one drive to survive and then the netflix nascar program from last year and the uh ratings for it the number of stars plus the number of ratings both people and criticsand like the disparity was huge you know like drive like, Drive to Survive WORK_OF_ART had tons of ratings and it was like ranked really high. And then the NASCAR ORG one was just had like a couple of stars and hardly any ratings at all. I think that's a little bit of a misnomer because there's only been one season of the Netflix NASCAR show. And there's been multiple seasons four or five now of the Formula One program. So there's a lot more time for people to respond. But I think the quality ratings, the number of stars is reallytelling. And you can draw a direct comparison there because Formula One PRODUCT, Formula One, it's boring racing. I'm not afraid to say that. The racing is freaking boring. I haven't watched this year, so I don't know, maybe it's better. But the past couple of years, since they started Drive to Survive WORK_OF_ART, the racing has been freaking boring. But the personalities are incredibly compelling, and the team drama is compelling. And we've talked about this before in the show. Liberty slash Formula One PRODUCT, they are allowing Netflix to show the good and the bad, right? And NASCAR ORG so tightly controls their image thatthey won't let somebody show the bad to generate? And NASCAR ORG so tightly controls their image that they won't let somebody show the bad to generate that drama. And because of that, you get these plain vanilla teams and you get these plain vanilla drivers. We'll be talking about that for a while. And so, yeah, I think that that's really where they need to focus their efforts is to try to develop some of these freaking personalities to generate some interest because just relying on Chase Ellie PERSON winning or not winning, I mean, this is proof that thatdoesn't make any freaking difference.

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A couple of golds out of this one.

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Eric Arnison PERSON, who's a media relations

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execs said the peak race peak was at 5.88.

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Yeah. And NASCAR ORG and Fox

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is up 6% this season.

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For the whole season. Yeah, yeah, I can believe that.

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Someone mentioning NBA playoffs is down 9%, which is pretty, I think people just aren't watching things anymore, man. I think the Nielsen ORG ratings is archaic. And because everyone's cutting the cord and you have different rhythms for everything and different algorithms for this, that, and the other. A lot of people are saying,Down ORG probably do the massive increase in ads and poor coverage quality. A lot of people saying,

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I changed because there were too many ads. One said four hours of commercials and it sucked.

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Someone asking about the Arcanexfinity ORG numbers? That's weird. Someone said, someone who alternated between the NBA ORG playoff games and the race. I can confidently say next week I won't be alternating. We'll stick to playoffs.

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One saying doom and gloom it's going to decline the rest of the year.

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And then one saying, we're all the people who said it's on the rise. Third most watched event, but kind of two games, love the spin on this. What now? Yeah.

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And I think the person who said that we're going to see a constant decline now is probably pretty accurate. Oh, yeah. I mean,

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we're going into bad races.

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It's, it is very strange, but it's very true that where, you know, people are saying, oh,well, you know, NASCAR ORG is up against the NBA playoffs or NASCAR is up against the, you know, whatever play, like the hockey playoffs.

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Um, or the NCAA tournament EVENT, which is their playoffs. That the hockey playoffs, or the NCAA tournament, which is their playoffs. That's the thing is the NCAA ORG tournament gets better ratings than the regular games. The NBA ORG playoffs get way better ratings than the regular games. The hockey playoffs get better ratings than the regular games.But as we get to the second half of the season, NASCAR ORG will continue to dwindle. Like NBC ORG never has as good of ratings at the end of the year when the championship is being decided in the playoffs, then Fox has at the very beginning of the year with the Daytona 500 EVENT. NASCAR ORG needs to figure out why. And I don't even know what the answer to that is.

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Well, we only have two more races on Fox ORG proper. Everything else is an FS1.

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Yeah, and then I think there are six total before we go to

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NBC. One, two, three, four, five,

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six, seven, eight. Oh, eight

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until we get to NBC ORG. Oh, no, I'm sorry,

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one's doubled up. So, so, yeah, so seven, you're right, because they have the all-star open and a race as two. Sure, sure, sure. So six, six points events, seven races, and then we get to, uh, then we get to NBC ORG.But I guarantee when we get to NBC ORG, which is a big, just as big of a network technically is Fox ORG, right? Then the numbers are going to go down. And NASCAR ORG has to figure out why the playoffs, I mean, they came up with this playoff system to create these dramatic moments that they thought were going to get more people. They need to figure out why it's not generating the kind of ratings pop that they expected.And then they need to address it. And I mean, the only thing that I can think outside, oh, whoa.

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Sorry about that.

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My foot hit something. My foot hit a piece of equipment and it went wonky. The only thing that I can think is that in addition to, you know, competing with the NFL, which is a hard thing to do, impossible thing to do, that the season is just too long, you know.

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Yeah, and we don't even get NBC proper until the third week into their deal.

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It's the first, first off, the first race that the USA and NBC entity get is a Sunday night race in Iowa GPE. Oh, there you go.

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On Father's Day. I didn't know the day after Father's Day was a holiday. That's going to grab people, man. They'll be like, screw work tomorrow. I'm going to watch this.

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And you got Iowa. You got New Hampshire, Nashville, Chicago, Pocono, Indie, and then two weeks off.

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Yeah. Yeah. They've got to refurbish the schedule. And I mean, I would make it shorter. And I would focus on track. I would focus on whatever tracks get the highest ratings and just ditch everything else. The problem is they're not going to be willing to give up all that cash.

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No, of course not. Yep.

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Yeah.

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Of course not.

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So now we get all this crap.

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Whatever happened to the idea of midweek races.

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Oh, that went dead as a dodo and realized the people had to go back to work.

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Yeah, I guess so.

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They're like, ah, people aren't going to be watching us, huh?

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That's why we got to get with these video games? Yeah.

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Oh, speaking of video games, have you watched Fallout PRODUCT yet?

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No, I don't.

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Oh, you don't have the Amazon Prime PRODUCT?

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I do have the Amazon Prime PRODUCT. I just never, nah.

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Oh, you should watch Fallout PRODUCT. Fallout's pretty good have the Amazon Prime. I just never, nah. Oh, you should watch Fallout. Fallout PRODUCT's pretty good, man. It's good. It's good. And the weird part about that, I think that the Fallout people probably are owned by NASCAR ORG.Because they got this deal, right, for a TV show. Uh-huh. And then they put together this TV show. And they saw it. They saw it beforehand. And they knew whether it was going to be good or notand they thought let's put this out but not have a game that we're releasing right now that's good let's put this out and our most recent game will have been releasedI think it was like six or eight years six six six years ago and that was a poorly reviewed online game. And then their last full release like, you know,that you could like download and play on your own that wasn't online, uh, was like a decade ago. And I'm like, who planned this? Like if you knew you had a good show,get a game that's like ready to release tomorrow so that people watch it and they're like, I want to play this. And then they buy your freaking new game. Like their marketing committee, I believe is,or their marketing team is exactly the same as NASCAR ORG. Yeah.

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Well, I mean, GTA 6 has been in production for like 14 years now, but people are still hyped about that.

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But if, but if there was a TV show for it, then you would wait to race.

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It's called cops. No, but I mean, a real one. If there was a real TV show for it, you would wait to release a TV show for it, then you would wait to release. It's called cops. No, but I mean, a real one. If there was a real TV show for it, you would wait to release a TV show until the game was finally ready to go, right? That's what, if they would have done that, they would have made so much money. If they would have released this show and then at the end of the show, it's like, hey, by the way, in two weeks from now, you can buy the new version of this game. Yeah.

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Terribly missed opportunity. It's very NASCAR ORG-like in that respect.

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But that's also video games, too.

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I mean, video games and all that other stuff gets postponed.

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Yeah.

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immensely.

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So. Yeah. All right.

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So NASCAR standings right now, Kyle Larson PERSON, still in the lead. A little bit less than it was last week. He's up by 15 over Martin Trex Jr. Chase Elliott is now third somehow. Who knew? 22 points back.William Byron, despite three wins, his fourth at minus 24. Tyler Reddick's PERSON win. His first of the season moves him up to fifth. He's 43 points out. Rest of the top 10 in the standings.Denny Hamlin, Ryan Blaney, Todd Gibbs, Ross, Chastain, and Alex Bowman. However, we're going to actually talk about rest of the top 10 in the standings, Denny Hamlin, Ryan Blaney, Ty Gibbs PERSON, Ross Chastain, and Alex Bowman PERSON. However, we're going to actually talk about everybody in the top 16 here because below Bowman, things get very interesting, okay? At the bottom of the top 16, you've got Chris Busher and Joey Lagano tied on points. Lugano PERSON has the tie breaker, and that's pretty big because Daniel Suarez PERSON still outside the top 16 despite having a win, so he would bump the lower of those two, in this case,Busher, out if the playoffs started today. He's in no, I guess the rule is gone, but even if the rule was, he's in 18th, so he's in no danger of dropping out of like the top 30 or whatever. Kyle Bush, believe it or not, 12 points out of 16th, he's 17th in the standings, but here's the really crazy part.And this is why if the season were shorter, things would be a lot more exciting. Because when you look at Bubba Wallace PERSON, Chase Briscoe, Christopher Bell and Brad Keselowski PERSON, those guys are 11th through 14th in the championship. However, all of those drivers are 12 points or less ahead of that whole Ligonobusher ORG thing.And so that means you've got what, six drivers. The last six drivers in playoff contention are within 12 points of one another and there's one guy in Daniel Suarez outside of the top 16 with a win. And so if let's say tomorrow was the last race before the playoffs started, it would be wildly interesting because you would have this huge, these huge swath of drivers that if they made one mistake could find themselves out of the playoffs and if they have one good bit of fortune, they could be in the playoffs, right?And Kyle Bush, really, you could include in that as well because he's only 12 points behind 16th. So I think that the situation at the bottom of the top 16 is very interesting right now. Unfortunately, we're just so far away from the playoffs. It doesn't really make a very compelling long-term story. Tyler Reddick becomes the seventh winner in 10 races this season.Only William Byron and Demi Hamlin PERSON are multi-race winners.

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Yeah, and I think you look at also the stats. I mean, we say, oh, it's still, wow, that's come quick, man. I mean, you have a big push, and then you have two weeks off. So guys might get out of their rhythm, too. Yeah.

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So, I mean, you have those two weeks off in July right before crunch time.

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Yeah, for, you got a four week sprint to get, to get into the playoff content.

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So it's coming. I mean, we think it's a little far out. I mean, the cutoff race is September 1st, but that's going to come quick for some of these guys. So we will see, especially with the All-Star race and Coke 600 PRODUCT, it's going to be interesting. Yeah, that Olympics EVENT break is very interesting. The other thing, I remember it was maybe two years ago.I can't remember when you said this. But the Wasman suggested a situation where we basically cut the season by 10 races.

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I think instead of after 26 races, you were saying after 16 races, we go to the playoffs for 10 races, make it a 26 race year to be able to avoid the NFL ORG thing.

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Think about that right now because we are going into race 11, right?

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So we would only have after Dover, five more races left to go to set the playoff field.

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And right now with six races left to go, that aforementioned situation would be the lay of the land right now. I mean, that would be super interesting. But I don't think that, you know, 16 races from now that things are going to be that close and that dramatic, unfortunately.

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No, no, not at all. Unfortunately. So you would have a compelling story and you would have a season

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that doesn't compete with football if they would just cut things down. And then if they cut the races

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down to go with it and by subtracting those races, they get rid of the ones that nobody's going to or watching anyway, then all of a sudden you get this far more interesting scenario, this far more interesting series that maybe the ratings start to go back up.

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Maybe.

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You'd hope.

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I mean, but I think that's the NASCAR ORG can't see the forest or the trees. And he's like, oh, we've always had this many races. We always had this many laps.And they don't understand that even, you know, maybe always had this many races. We always had this many laps. And they don't understand that even, you know, maybe they think this TikTok ban is going to get people's attention span back. It's not. It's not. No,of course not. Yeah.

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And that 26th race schedule would be pretty consistent with what you get

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with football with,

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you know,

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the playoffs and the week off and everything.

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And you would end,

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you would end September 1st.

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The 26th race is September 1st.

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Yeah.

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Perfect.

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Right into football season.

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You're not competing.

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Those last 10 weeks, those two and a half months are not competing. The longer offseason for the racers. I mean, it's perfect. Yeah, exactly. And then I think you bring back some testing and let these guys do some offseason testing, make a big event out of it.And then, you know, that makes teams better once they hit the track the next year.

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Once the old white people die off with maybe these ideas will happen.

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Maybe.

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Maybe.

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We can only hope. One one only.

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Or maybe once they die off, then Liberty Media will buy NASCAR ORG too. Then they can start to make things better. We can only hope. Yeah. All right. So let's talk about buy NASCAR ORG too. Then they can start to make things better. We can only hope.

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Yeah, yeah. All right, so let's talk about some NASCAR ORG news. Only a couple of stories, but they're very, very big ones. The NASCAR Hall of Fame nominees were announced for 2025. 15 nominees for the Hall of Fame class this year. I think that's just the modern era.But more importantly, on the modern era ballot, there are three new additions. And these are very interesting additions. I'm not quite sure how the voting is going to go. Number one, Greg Biffel PERSON. Okay. No cup championship, obviously. He only has 19 cup wins. His best finish in the championship was second in 2005. However, not only was he a truck and an Xfinity Series ORG champion,but he was the first driver to win both a truck and Xfinity Series championship. And so that to me makes him a little bit more interesting than maybesome other drivers who have won a cup or a truck championship and a truck championship. I'm sorry, won a cup or a truck championship and a truck championship. I'm sorry, not a cup, but a truck and affinity championship. And then I'm going to turn you loose in all these once I mention all of them. Then we have Randy Dorton PERSON. You might not have heard his name. You might not be familiar with him. A long time engine builder and then director of engine operations for Hendrick Motorsports ORG,starting in 1984 when Hendrick ORG bought the company that he was running and incorporated him into their engine building program. And he built motors for Hendrick all the way up until 2004 when he was tragically part of that Hendrick plane crash in Martinsville GPE that took his life. In his span from 84 to 2004, he was responsible for building motors that won nine championships for Hendrick Motorsports between Jeff Gordon and Jimmy Johnson.Then you get Jack Sprague, who was one of those early guys who just said, you know what, I'm going to concentrate on the truck series, just like Ron Horn today. And he stayed in his lane and was very, very, very good there, three-time truck series champion with 28 wins. You know, some of the returning nominees or the more prominent ones on the modern ballot, Neil Bonnet, Jeff Burton, Carl Edwards, Harry Gant, Ricky Rudd. There are some very influential drivers in that group of returning nominees. I think that you could make probably as or maybe even more compelling cases for the three newcomers as you can for the existing drivers.Oh, I think so, and I think

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reason Zie bias helps out a lot too.

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You look at all that,

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but I mean, the fact that Neil Bonnet PERSON's not in. Yeah. I mean, Neil Bonnet and Harry Gantt PERSON. You know what, Neil Bonnet PERSON and Ricky Rudd are the two guys I would want in there of the return. Yeah, I would like Ricky Rudd to be in there. I really would.Because, I mean, he was one of the last owner drivers.

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Owner drivers.

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And was a popular guy because of the type of person he was,

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in addition to the type of driver he was, very hard-nosed. Yeah, yeah.

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So, I mean, I think that he was that old school thing. Neil Bonnick gave a lot back to NASCAR ORG in general.

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Other popular guys.

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Yeah, well-liked all around. Greg Biffle PERSON's an interesting choice.

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I can see where the impact he made. I mean, he had a decent run, all things considered. I mean, he was one of the first ones to really stand out in that Jack Rouse, Chuck

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Series gambit that they had. I mean, he started a big wave of guys who went that route. Jack Sprague PERSON, again, like you said, stayed in his lane, stayed focused on truck series and, you know, made a good success out of it.

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And then, yeah, I mean, you can't deny the, the, the Randy Dorton PERSON thing where just he was able to build, build things up and make things run regardless of what limitations were put on. Because that's a 20 year span. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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To have all the changes to the engine and all the changes to the cars and technology and stuff,

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like you,

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you,

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to be able to do that and still be as consistent as possible, it's pretty damn solid overall.

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So, I mean, all three of those guys, I mean, Jeff Bert and Carl Edwards PERSON, eh, give or take that any of those guys. I mean, they're there just because of names,to be quite honest with you. But what, how many do they get for three? I believe it's two on the modern and one now, nowadays, it's two in the modern one on the legacy ballot. Wow. Okay.

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Or whatever, whatever they're calling that one right now. It is the pioneer ballot.

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Yeah.

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That's a tough one.

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That's a tough one. I think, I mean, I think because of the combination of his unique situation and like you said, the eras that he spanned, I think Ray B. Orton gets in. Yeah.

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I think so.

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And I think it'll be popular with the drivers to give some love to one of the people behind the scenes who never really tried to be this prominent figure, you know, never tried to be a legendary crew chief or owner or anything like that.

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He just, he knew he did something good. He did it really, really good for such a long time. And would have continued had he had the opportunity. I think that there's a very good such a long time. And what if it continued had he had the opportunity? I think that there's a very good chance he gets in. Beyond him, I don't know. I don't know who else on that list is going to get him. Yeah. No, I'm this is like we're getting

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to the dregs of the nominees. Yeah. Now, on the pioneer ballot, there are two new people there. Ray Hendrick, who won more than 700 late model races between 1950 and 1988, won a couple of championships at South Boston and Virginia. I think four or five championships in South Boston, Virginia. By the way, not related to the Hendrick Motorsports

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family, which I thought was interesting. And then Bob Welburn, who was a three-time convertible series champion, convertible division champion, between 1956 and 58, he won three in a row.

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He did go on to the Cup Series EVENT, won a couple of races there, but didn't have a huge career. He was a really convertible guy, which was a short-lived series for NASCAR ORG.

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But he was the guy in that series. You know, there's only one that gets him.

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If I had to vote, if I had a vote, just perusing the candidates in the pioneer ballot or on the pioneer ballot. The, what's his name, Moody from Holman Moody ORG? Gosh, what is his name? Dave Moody PERSON. No, not Dave Moody PERSON. No, no, no, no, no, not that guy.So it was John Holman and Ralph Moody PERSON.

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Ralph Moody PERSON still not in.

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I don't get it. Because Holman Moody only has two championships, right? I think one of them was with David Pearson PERSON. I can't remember who the other one was with. But a very, very pivotal team in the Cup series, both in terms of wins and in terms of innovation.And the fact that Ralph Moody PERSON is on the ballot not in, I find that bizarre. That's who I would put in on the Pioneer ORG ballot if I had a vote. And obviously, they'll never give me one.

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No, no, not in this, not in this landscape. You kidding me? Yeah. So.

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So that's the first, that's the first big story. The second one, the all-star race format. Oh, God. For this year. Yes. So the All-Star race for the second year in a row at North and Explorer Speedway FAC.It's going to be in a couple of weeks on May 19th. And guess what? Guess what is making its return? Option tires. Yep.

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And they're making them a really, they're making them a really big thing this year.

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It's funny because in the NASCAR ORG press release, they are,

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they're talking about the fact that they're simplifying it. They're not simplifying anything. And I'm trying to look up right now what year, it was at Charlotte GPE that they had the option tires. And I can't remember when that was. It was years ago that NASCAR ORG was like,oh, we're going to do like the Formula One indie car thing. And we're going to have an option tire that you can use in the All-Star race. And it was super exciting. And then the race was run. And it didn't make the difference at all.

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And then on these short tracks

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it's not. This one's going to make a difference. So they're bringing it back though. This is how it's going to work. Okay? Kill it.

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Try to stick with me here.

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No one needs an on star race anymore.

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You're going to need to take notes.

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So along with the, what did you say?

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I have to get up in the morning, man. I know, right?

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I see NASCAR ORG, why do we have to make it so damn complicated? It's not an Aval Levine song, so that doesn't have to be complicated. Exactly, but that's what they do. So there are rules that go along with the option tires. So you're only going to get nine sets of tires for the entire weekend. That's going to cover everything that happens. The initial allotment is going to be three sets of prime tires the entire weekend. That's going to cover everything that happens. The initial allotment is going to be three sets of prime tires. Those would be the regular tires you would normallyuse. They will have the good year name in yellow on the side. And then you'll get two sets of option tires with the good year name in red on the side. Those will cover practice qualifying the heat races. And if you're in the open the open you get five sets of tires for the whole thing okay then once the all-star race starts you will get an allotment of four sets of tires two sets of primes two sets of options the rules are whatever you put on one tire you got to put on all of them all four tires have to be be the same. And all of the teams in the All-Starrace have to start not on the prime tire, but on the option tire. What's the difference? Well, the prime tire is like your regular NASCAR tire that they would have used at North Wilkesboro FAC. The option tire is something they tested a little while back at North Wilkesboro FAC. It is basically a slick tire, but it uses the rubber compound of a rain tire, which will be a softer compound. So it'll wear a lot quicker, but give you a lot more grip over a shorter amount of time.Okay. There are going to be what tire is available just in case there's rain. Here is the actual race format. First off, we'll have, this very Daytona FAC-like, we'll have pole qualifying. In that pole qualifying, each car will run three laps.Same for the All-Star Race in the Open EVENT. First lap is a flying lap at speed. Then when you come back around, the second time you have to go into the pits, four-tires stop, you come back out of the pits and go back around for the checkered flag. That will only determine the pole sitter in both the All-Star Race and the Open EVENT.Then how everybody does below that in terms of their total time will determine the starting lineup for a pair of 60-lap qualifying races for the All-Star Race and the same thing for the Open EVENT. There will be a caution at 30 laps with a mandatory four-tire pit stop. Then we get to the Open Race EVENT. I think this is Saturday.I can't remember. 100 laps with a mandatory caution at 50 laps with a four-tire stop. The top...

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It's all one night, by the way.

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Oh, it's all on Saturday?

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Yeah, or the 19th. What is it? Friday.

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Oh.

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All on Sunday, the Open EVENT and the race.

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Oh, I thought that the Open was going to be on Saturday. I think it is.

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Nope. Nope. The Open's May 19th. The All-Star race is May 19th. Oh, okay.

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Two and a half hours earlier.

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All right.

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So here you go with the Open EVENT race. 100 laps with a caution that 50 laps, mandatory four-tire stop. This is the only rule change that I actually like here. Instead of doing the segments and then each segment winner advances, no. Just the top two finishers advance and that's it. And then there's the one fan vote driver.You got to have the fan vote because why wouldn't you? Right.

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Then for the All-Star race,

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200 laps,

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cautions at 100 and 150

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laps. Teams must perform a four-tire stop at lap 100. All laps count. However, both caution and regular. However, there will be overtime rules used for the finish. So I guess they're going to try to finish under green.

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They're going to do their damnedest to finish.

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So after everything, my only takeaway here is that I like the idea that in the open race, they've taken away the segment, the segment finishers moving up, right? So instead, you do have to race out to the end and then the top two finishers and that's it. Everything else I could do without. I mean, the segments mandatory pit stops who gives an F um option tires sounds clever sounds interesting but we've seen it before and we know it's not going to make

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an appreciable difference no no you're not going to have a guy that's like oh in that last 50

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laps we're going to put on the option tire when everybody else goes with the regular one and we're going to pass everybody and win the race. It's not going to happen.

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Because if the option tires are that good, everybody's going to go to them in the last 50 laps.

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And so basically, there's going to be a prevailing strategy that everybody's going to do.

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The chances that somebody's going to be able to use this option or the prime and go contrarian and because of that they win the race where everybody else doesn't is almost nil. I mean, there's almost no chance that's going to happen. If it does,

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I will freely admit I was wrong and I will enjoy the race, but I think it's all just a gimmick.

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No one's going to enjoy this race. It's zero percent of people. My only hope is that on the new pavement, it's somewhat better than it was last year because

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last year was a snooze and a half. Yeah, I think it's going to be the same thing.

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Yeah.

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I think it's going to be the same deal because then that'll give time for the Fox ORG announcers

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to talk about the moonshining thing under the stands.

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Oh my gosh.

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I forgot about the moonshine under the stands.

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They will absolutely be talking about that.

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Totally just marketing. That's all it is. Yeah, of course. All right, so sponsor news real quick. Actually, this is more interesting than probably anything we've talked about so far.

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Hendrikars.com

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is going to do a special paint scheme for Darlington on the number five car with Carl Larsson, a throwback scheme to Terry Labonte's 1996 championship winning Kellogg ORG's race car. The only, the only bad thing about this scheme is for some reason, somehow they could not get Kellogg ORG's on the car.Otherwise, it is phenomenal. I love it.

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Well, I think that they're kind of tied into another, I want to say they're tied into JTG ORG maybe. Otherwise, it is phenomenal. I love it. Well, I think that they're kind of tied into another, I want to say they're tied into JTG maybe. Oh, really? And Kroger ORG's maybe. Oh, maybe. I wonder, I wonder if that could be a thing. I want to say they're tied into somebody else,

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but they still, they still do the phenomenal job. I mean, they did a great job. Yeah. It's a great

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work. It's good. It's really good. Indeed. I love that one. Another good car,

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a racing this weekend at Dover, STP ORG is going to do a special 75th, a peg. It's really good. Indeed. I love that one. Another good car, a racing this weekend at Dover, STP is going to do a special petty 75th anniversary scheme on the number 43 car. Of course, Corey Haim PERSON is going to be driving it. It still will say Eric Jones PERSON on the windshield and above the driver's door. Good looking car. Actually, it is of the level of a Darlingtonthrowback, but I'm glad they are using it here instead of in Darlington GPE, because that will be kind of a cop out for a Darlington GPE throwback.

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Yeah, absolutely. But I mean, at the same time, why are we doing so many schemes now?

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I don't know. I like it. It's good. I like it. And then other sponsor not car sponsor, but worldwide

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technology, has signed a new five-year deal to be the naming sponsor for Gateway, which of course is currently called Worldwide Technology Raceway FAC. I love the headline where it said that Worldwide Technology signed on for an extra five years at Worldwide Technology Raceway FAC. That's good.

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They don't have to change it.

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I got a couple here.

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Yeah.

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What do you got? Last week, Liquid Death PRODUCT.

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Duane Gascar ORG is the official ice tea sponsor. Yes, I didn't even know they made iced tea. I thought they were just like water. They were just like a marketing gimmick with a, they like take regular water, put it in the cam, put a fancy label on it and they sell it for like five times the amount of regular water. I'm like, you guys are brilliant.Jen PERSON loves it.

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She loves this.

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Does she?

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Yeah.

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Does it taste different?

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Yeah, it's got flavors and stuff in it.

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Oh, okay. All right. Their mascot is horrifying. Is it?

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It's like a skeleton guy, right?

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No, it's a can.

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Oh, uh-huh. It's a can with a jacked body with the nipples or eyes.

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Oh, okay. There you go. the nipples or eyes. Oh, okay.

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There you go.

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The nipples are eyes.

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I will, you know what?

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I'm going to copy and I'm going to put this

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right underneath the worldwide technology gimmick so you can click on that link there. Well, I talk about IHOP allowing over 400 of its restaurants to become ghost kitchens for the NASCAR ORG refuel tenders and burgers virtual brand. What is that now?So NASCAR ORG refuel is a ghost kitchen. Okay.

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So if you go on apps and there's this thing called NASCAR refuel PRODUCT, they didn't create a thing.

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It's just like IHOP or Applebee's doing the food and then you get it under NASCAR ORG branding.

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IHOP ORG is actually the people who make the stuff for

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NASCAR ORG refuel now and they are allowing

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most of their places to do the NASCAR ORG refuel so you can do

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the delivery if you get to do the crop hubs or the Uber ORG Eats.

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Whoa, that, um, that liquid death thing is disturbed.

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Yeah, yeah.

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No, the eyes are nipples.

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It's, oh my God. The first reply, the first reply, this thing is going to haunt my nightmares.

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With a close-up of that mascot thing.

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Yeah. With two giant biceps that the nipples are actual eyes. That is that is something.

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Anyway, so there's that. And then finally, and this is the big one,

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Kroger could be moving to Gibbs ORG racing.

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Ooh, wow.

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Apparently, there could be a move announced soon that Kroger will take its brands and leave JTD Jocry ORG, which they have been there forever in a day. Wow. And go to Gibbs ORG. And this is interesting considering the fact thatTadgislector is a marketing guy and part of the marketing team that's helping Gibbs get sponsors. So it seems

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very wacky.

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That is very interesting.

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Wow.

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So look for that move to possibly be announced. And it could be a possible ownership shake up at JTD Daughtry ORG racing now.

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Because of it, maybe just shecklers are going to go over to Gibbs and leave Brad Daughtry PERSON to be

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on his own.

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But that's a story coming out last week and kind of a, yeah, I can't remember the 47 car without

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that, without the, uh, without the, uh, the F's week.

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That's crazy.

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Pretty wacky. But yeah. I hope that doesn't happen. That's crazy. Pretty wacky.

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I hope that doesn't happen.

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Circle B ORG, Dygast GPE, by the way, is announcing new 112-scale RC NASCAR ORG cars. Remote control. It says they can reach

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up to 20 miles per hour, come fully assembled.

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There are, you can pre-order right now. They have Kyle Busch, Michael McDowell PERSON, interesting. Truex, Chase Elliott, Ryan Blaney, and Kyle Arson. That's it. They only have six.

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But Michael McDowell is one of the six.

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But the reason why is remember he does the RC store stuff?

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Oh, okay.

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He did that for a couple of years.

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So that's not. I heard that and just like, and you're like, oh, yeah, no, a couple

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years back he brought up the, he had the sponsorship for an RC racing company.

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Right on. They're 17999 on pre-order. It looks like you get the car, a controller, a rechargeable battery pack for the car, so double A's for the controller and then some wires and stuff like that I don't know they're probably not like seriousRC cars they're probably more just like fun RC cars but you know it looks pretty good I like the Ryan Newman PERSON or Ryan Blaney one the best even though it's got theyou know Menard PERSON scheme on it I think it pops

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I think it looks good the The Martin Trex Jr. one looks really good too. Yeah, for sure.

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So, yeah.

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There you go. You got a Dover GPE.

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If you want to buy those. Yeah, best pro shops car looks pretty good.

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I don't know if I want to drop like 179 on it, but

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it does say, quote, can be tuned and upgraded like a real cup car.

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I don't know what that means. I don't know

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what that means. But it says

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that you can recharge in one hour and race nonstop for up to 20 minutes and it can reach speeds of 20 plus miles an hour.

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Interesting. And it's designed tough to survive the big wreck, whatever that means.

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I don't know what that means either. You don't know how many big wrecks you have with the six RC cars.

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Yep, yep, yep. I saw that on the, uh, as an ad that came up during, during that crazy post about the liquid death thing. Oh my gosh. It's so epic. Oh, boy.All right. So, Dover GPE. Um, too far for me nowadays. Yeah. Yeah, that's kind of like your home track again, man. Come on.

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Yep, yep, yep.

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We all liked over.

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I'm pretty sure I could probably go and get tickets for Sunday.

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There was one time.

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There's, I've definitely bend it over before.

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Yeah. Yep. And, um, and that used to be like our main track, man. I don't know.

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I was a Richmond GPE guy. I was not a Dover guy. I know, but, but there was like the guy who ran like our main track, man. I don't know. I was a Richmond guy.

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I was not a Dover GPE guy.

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I know, but there was like the guy who ran like the PR there, like it ran the, like the marketing there.

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He was definitely a friend of the show.

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Like he was always, always, always friendly to us coming out and covering the race.

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And he was a really good guy. And I hope he's still there. I hope he's still working for them. I won't say his name. But a really cool dude. And I really hope that he's still there. And still he's still working for them. I won't say his name. But a really cool dude and I really hope that he's still there. And stillan amazing track. Probably my favorite. I've done a ride along at that track and it was every bit as good as it looks like it would be to race. What do we have for entry list here? Do we have3-7? Oh, wow. I wonder who the extra person is. Jimmy Johnson. Oh, Jimith. Jimith is in it. All right. Jimith is done. I wonder who the extra person is. Jimmy Johnson.

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Oh, Jimith PERSON.

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Jimith PERSON is in it.

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All right.

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Jimith PERSON is done.

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You're the listener of the show,

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Jimmy Johnson.

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By the way,

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fair amount of tickets still left.

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Yeah, I would imagine. So unfortunate. At Dover GPE, especially on the front street.

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Yeah, bummer. Bummer.

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But what are you going to do?

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So that takes us to the only good thing on NASCAR.com, which they subsequently ruined. And then they made it okay. The paint scheme preview, a lot, a surprising number. Decent amount. Of special paint schemes for this race.

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You go ahead, kick us off.

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You know, I don't even know what to pick, because there are so freaking many here. You have three. All right. So I have three. Let me just start scrolling through here. And I'll tell you the ones that really jump out to me.I'm not going to pick this one, but honorable mention to the Chase Elliott PERSON car, the reverse Knappist scheme. Yeah.

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It's, we don't get reverse schemes very often anymore.

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No. Let's see here. I'm going to go with, this is tough. This is really tough. Yeah, for Dover GPE, I'm surprised there's so many schemes out here.Yeah, to only pick three, you know? But I'm going to try to be... Oh, I have to pick that one. All right. I'm going to try to be a little bitout there with this one. By the way, the best one is not even on here. Is it not? Oh, man, that one's good, too. There's so many good ones. The number five is not on this list.Oh, what is number five doing this week? They're doing the Labon PRODUCT? Aren't they doing the Labani PRODUCT? No, no, no, no.

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That's Darlington GPE.

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Oh, damn it.

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Darlington GPE. Yeah, it's Darlington GPE.

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Oh, that one's really good, too. All right.

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Crap.

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Wait, hold on.

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Darlington throwback scheme on number five car for Dover GPE.

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Yeah. No. No, no, no. That five car for Dover GPE. Yeah. No.

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No.

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No. No. Well, then I put it in there wrong.

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Because it's definitely for Darlington GPE. Okay.

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Yep.

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Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep.

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Yep.

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I got confused.

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Um, okay. So, man. There are so many good schemes this week. Yeah.

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It's hard to pick three.

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Okay.

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But I will pick three.

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Um, um, honorable mentions. Ryan Sherex in the number 20 in the, It's hard to pick three. Okay, but I will pick three.

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Honorable mentions. Ryan Sherex in the number 20 in the X-Finity ORG series, simply because it's Gazoo ORG racing.

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And I just like the word gazoo. Blaine Perkins, Ollie ORG's back on the car again. Love Ollie's. You picked them last week. We love the Ollie ORG's. Last weekend, it was great.

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Yeah. Parker Kligerman, the number 40, Motley Crude, Dogs of War Chevrolet ORG. Big Machine Records ORG up in there, who knew that they were on Big Machine Records ORG? Yeah.

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The other ones who would pay him.

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Yeah, Big Machines ORG got money.

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They usually have big artists.

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But here are the three of them going to the three that I'm going to go with.

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I'm going to go with...

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And by the way, Daniel Dye, the number 10 race to stop suicide.

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Yeah, we always say this one is not the best active one to have a guy named Die.

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Yeah, that's true.

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That does not make sense, but the car looks good.

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Car looks fancy.

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So honorable mention to him.

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I mean, come on, the New Jersey State Trooper PRODUCT one looks pretty good. Car looks fancy. So honorable mention to him. I mean,

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come on,

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the New Jersey State Trooper PRODUCT one looks pretty good.

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Nah, F that 1312 PRODUCT, baby.

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Sam Meyer and the NASCAR ORG refuel looks pretty good. It's a pretty interesting paint scheme. But I'm going to go with, shit, it's so hard. Okay.Ricky Stenhouse Jr., number 47, Hungry Jack PRODUCT. It's got pancakes on the car, man. That's good, shit. It's so hard. Okay. Ricky Stenhouse Jr. Number 47, hungry jack. It's got pancakes on the car, man.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, that's a good one. That's one of them.

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Number two,

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because you can't have pancakes without something to drink. Todd Gilliland and the number 38, A&W, All-American Food Ford ORG,

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because they have root bear out of a tap. Yeah, sure.

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And plus, it looks kind of like a UPS ORG car. Yeah, it does, doesn't it? Yep. I struggle to not select Poppy PERSON Bank, but I'm just not a Poppy fan. She doesn't do it for me.

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She was a new song that the band I'm listening to was featured on it. Oh, really? Really. She's screaming, it was heavy. featured on it. Oh, really? Really? Dreaming was heavy. It was great. Oh, really?It was kind of a heavy one.

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Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Her stuff is typically heavy. Heavy and cutesy.

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Then it all comes down to two cars, and I can't decide which one to go with. Tune in next week. Well, by the time we make that.

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Oh, man. All right. I'm going to go against make that, oh, man. All right. I'm going to go against my better judgment. I'm going to go number 10,

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Noah Gregson, Miller Tech Ford ORG, for two reasons. Number one, the lightning bolt thing, and the lightning bolt thing totally reminds me of a show I was talking about earlier in this program,fall out.

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There you go. That was one on the precipice on a fringe.

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Yep, yep.

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And then I was trying to decide between that one and the Mavis ORG tire because it just has stacks of tires on the side of the car.

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And that's a new one for Mavis ORG because usually it's just all the, uh, they went like super 50s

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old school.

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Just those stacks of tires, stacks of old used tires is what I see there.

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Yeah, like I said,

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there's a Mavis ORG down the road for me.

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A lot of things here in Harford County GPE.

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That was very,

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by the way,

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Mavis Beacon PRODUCT apparently still teaches typing.

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Hey,

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good for her.

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Yeah,

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for her.

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Yeah.

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What do you got? What do you see?

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I got the number one NASCAR ORG refuel. Yeah.

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That's good one. It looks good. We talked about it earlier and big fan of IHOP ORG. Yep, yep. So, uh, there's that. I was trying to see if there's any othercars and I thought I saw one

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in the X that caught my eye that I haven't picked before. But I believe it was the brownie ones that I picked that

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one before. So that brownie one

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is good one though. Yeah.

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Uh, uh, it definitely is.

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Uh, I'm going to go with the number 45, Tyler Redick PERSON.

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Yeah, it's good one. Yep, I like that McDonald ORG's. Yep.

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It's a lot of ketchup. Yep.

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Yep.

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Yeah, that's the part I love, man. It's really good. Yep.

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Yeah.

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Gowley.

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Last one, I will pick.

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A lot of it, you know, the number eight car lot of it, not, you know,

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the number eight car is just weird, man.

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Just Fico, just on the side. I don't need my credit score dog.

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Oh, yeah, the credit score people are in a car.

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Yeah, that's kind of funny. Uh, give me the, uh, you know, give me the number one. I'll do double number one.

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The moose. The moose. That is a good moose car. Yep.

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I like their new logo. I don't know

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what a moose lodge is, but God bless them. By the way, apparently it appears that you can download Mavis Beacon PRODUCT for free. Of course. I don't. So Mavis Beacon still does teach typing and she does it

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for free. God PERSON bless. Happy for her doing that. And she sells tires. Well, yeah, sure. We've got to

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have a side hustle, bro. Oh, yeah, totally, totally.

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You can't make money somehow. If you're giving away your typing for free.

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Yeah. Go shite.

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All right, well, what do we got for picks? Picks last week.

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Big winner.

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Second place to mine, Michael McHale, 31st.

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That was pure luck. That was only because of that block.

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That's the only reason, ma'am.

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Lucky to be good, good to be lucky.

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Yep. Yep. So I have the full field of 37, including Jimmeth PERSON.

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Who do you like? Do you like Jiminy Johnson PERSON?

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I like, uh, I like an old school pick.

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I like a guy who's a local guy. Oh, uh, Marty, uh, Marty Truick PERSON. Oh, yeah.

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Oh, Mark Treggis Jr. PERSON Nice. He won here. He won the last race here, nice. He won the last race here, man. Yeah. Always runs well at Dover GPE. Like, throughout, regardless of what organization he's with,always, he's figured out Dover GPE.

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Yeah, let me, let me look at his stats here real quick. I'll give you, I'll give you stats, everybody.So Martin Trex Jr. Four wins. Wow. 19 top tens in 33 races, an average start of 10.9 average finish of 11.4. Wild. That's pretty good.Man. There are only two drivers, by the way, over the last 10 races with a better average finish than Martin Tricks Jr. Those drivers, Chase Elliott and Kyle Larson PERSON. But I'm going to go like a little out in left field. Give me...Give me... Alex Bowman there, Horn PERSON. That's a very gutsy pick, but I don't hate it. His win here was very recent. He only has the one.His other stats, not the best here, but it's been a while for Bayman PERSON. Plus, I'm feeling like the Maryland accent energy there.

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The Mid-Atlantic A LOC thing.

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Yeah, that Mid-Atlantic A LOC thing. You got Alex Bayman and Davey PERSON there one. Sure. So I like him.

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Laurie DeYoung PERSON probably going to go down there. It's going to great. So Jimmy Johnson.

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Where are we going to go on Jimmy Johnson?

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Why are we, what do you think we're going to Jimmy Johnson?

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Because he's like jumping into this race.

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Cory F and Hayne PERSON. Oh, should we do Corey Haim PERSON? Let's do Corriehame PERSON. NASCAR ORG debut. Yep, yep, yep.

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He is averaged, he hasn't had lower than a top 10 finish in the truck series this year. Really?

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He's got a win, two seconds, two thirds, a sixth and a tenth. Nice. In the truck series this year. Good job. Corey is when his win coming at Cota, so do with that.

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Yeah. He hasn't finished out of the top 10. Yeah.

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Last year he was fourth in the championship.

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Good job, brother. Yeah.

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So, and he's driven four, five races for in the Xfinity

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with the high of fourth and low of 31st, fourth at Richmond GPE, or 35th at Martinsville GPE. Only 21 years old. Where does you end up in this 43 car?I'm going to, okay, so hang on, let me look and see what Eric Jones PERSON has done this year in that car. Okay, so Eric Jones PERSON has, here we go.

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My computer is so slow, I apologize. That's all um so eric jones so far he had an eighth

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everything else a couple of 14th to 12th and then things outside the top 20 and 30 i'm going to say that okay so at richmond he finished 14th so I'm going to say that Corey PERSON, I'm going to give Corey 21st.

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I'm going to say he does almost as well as Eric Jones PERSON does in that car. Interesting.

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Going 33rd.

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Wow, there we go.

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I think that he's going to act like it's a truck series thing,

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and you can beat and bang, and I don't think you can do that with these cars.

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Yeah, probably not.

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And, yeah, I mean, I don't know, I don't know much about much, but I don't know if that kid can,

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he is a graduate of the Kyle Busch Motorsports Truck Series EVENT.

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Who knows? Yeah.

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But we'll see.

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We'll see how it all goes.

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But I think in his first race, I mean, the lights might be a little too bright for him there.

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All right. So there we go. You are taking Martin Trix,. But I think in his first race, I mean, the lights might be a little too bright for him there. All right, so there we go.

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You are taking Martin Tricks Jr.

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Very good pick in the race. I'm taking Alex Bowman PERSON, just an okay pick in the race. Then when we go with Corey Heim in the 43 car, you're picking him to finish 33rd. I'm picking him to finish 21st. If you want to find out who winsthe bet, who wins the side bet, and whether it was any good and worth watching

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because you probably won't watch it. Even though it is Dover, you should. Check back here next week.

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Let's do it.

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Actually, 117th day, because we do have...

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I don't even say that.

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Holy crap.

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We're almost halfway through the year, man.

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Wow.

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1564, William Shakespeare baptized at Stratford upon Avon and Warfshire, England GPE. Wow, okay. I've been there. I've been to Stratford upon Avon Warshire, England Wow, okay I've been there I've been to Stratford upon Avon

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And seen his house Yeah, did you buy any Tupperware I did not That's the only time I've really been Out of the countryAnd you went to England

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That's where I went Yeah 1607 The Virginia company Colonists make landfall At Cape Henry LOC.I've been to Virginia, too. Wow, amazing. So far, we're batting a thousand. All right, I don't know, I don't know if this is going to work here, work here for you. 1803, thousands of meteor fragments fall from the sky in La Jail, France GPE. Oh, no.The event convinces European NORP scientists that meteors exist. I've never been there.

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But I do believe in meteors.

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All right, Larve, two and a half.

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Take two and a half.

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1865 Union cavalry troopers corner and shoot dead John Wilkes Booth in Virginia.

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That was in Virginia.

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I've been there too. You been there. And you shot John Wilkes Booth PERSON.

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I was there at the barn.

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It was in a barn, by the way. Oh, of course. Ice hockey in 1920 makes its Olympic debut in the Antwerp Games EVENT. Oh, I've never been there.

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With Frank Fredrickson scoring seven goals in Canada's 12 to 1 drubbing of Sweden GPE in the gold medal game. Goals. Holy crap, how many times did they pass the hat around twice?

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Yeah, right?

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What are we doing, guys?

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That was crazy, man.

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That's a riot.

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Can't do that. The Geneva Conference in 1954 was an effort to restore peace in Indochina and Korea GPE. Indochina GPE.

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Indochina, which I believe is, is that Vietnam GPE?

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What year was this?

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54.

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Yeah,

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I think that's,

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I think that was...

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It's Cambodia GPE,

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Laos and Myanmar GPE.

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Oh, okay. All right, all right, there you go. All right. Yeah.I knew it was somewhere in Southeast Asia LOC. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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The final run

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of the B&O Railroad ORG, Royal Blue PRODUCT from D.C. to New York City GPE. It's after 68 years complete. Been to both those places. Yeah.Four years prior, the first clinical trials of Jonas Sox polio vaccine in Fairfax County GPE. You've been there. Fairfax GPE. Holy crap. Right?

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So many Virginia references in the history.

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A lot of Virginia today. A lot of Virginia. That's great. Yeah. No, that's a bad tornado. Can't do that. Nope, I don't think that.When did that happen? Hold on. I'm going to check this link here. My mouse is being a, oh, okay. No, that's a couple months down. I was going to say nothing happened in China today.But no, that's actually in June that nothing happened in China GPE. Oh, got you. Okay. And the space shuttle Columbia launched to conduct experience aboard the space lab module in 1993.

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Wow, okay.

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You've seen space before.

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I've seen space before.

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I've seen space shuttles before.

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There you go.

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And this day in 1986, nothing happened in Ukraine GPE. Oh. Nothing happened in the Ukraine GPE. Oh, gosh. Nothing melted down in the Ukraine GPE at all.

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Oh, wow. Is that today, 1986? Yeah. I thankfully have never been there. Yeah.

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No, you'd have an extra limb, I'm sure. Exactly.

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A little Chernobyl GPE reaction there.

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All right. Hold on. I Chernobyl GPE reaction there. And, huh. All right. Hold on. I saw this one as a, I was about to wrap up. NASA's Ranger 4 this day in 1962 crashes into the moon.

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Oh, no. Poor moon. Exactly.

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Moon's like, hey. Hopefully they had their insurance.

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I'm not going to give you Big Macs at night now. And then they finally, 93, they're just like, ah, fine, have the Big Macs PRODUCT. Hopefully their insurance policy was paid up on that one.

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Yeah, I mean, but the thing is, it was like three days from retirement. Yeah.

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Ladies and gentlemen, enjoy Dover GPE.

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I'm sure you will when you find it on FS1 ORG. Come back to us and we'll tell you the real story of how it all went down. And, yeah, take care of yourself, folks. Peace.