Post Pesach Questions, Goodbye to Dad

Post Pesach Questions, Goodbye to Dad

by Rabbi Aryeh Lebowitz

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39:26 minutes

published 23 days ago

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The first year after Pesach, always, every year, seems to always revolve around the same topics. And at first I was hesitant to even go into these topics again because it feels like every year, it's always chavich over love of Pesach and issues of Svira and availus of Svira on what you are and are not allowed to do. But there are two reasons why I'm not going to hesitate to go into it. First of all, even though it happens every year, I don't know, we've been doing this year for about five years now.This is the end of the fifth year. Probably the end of it, period.

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But there's the end of the fifth year.

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And I don't think any of you have been here from the beginning. We're here from me? Yeah, you are. Your father and you, yeah. So, but from the beginning? Five years ago?

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Oh, but it's all in the same.

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No way, no way.

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So, okay.

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So one, it's not a repeat for most of you. Second of all, the idea of the shir, if I recall in my introductory shir that from the rabbi's desk was to try to give an idea of the kinds of shailas that rabbis face all the time.And one of the ways to give over that impression is to realize which things keep coming back, keep coming up. So I'm not going to do the same exact shylas I've got in the past. That would be a little boring, but some of the same topics. And then we'll do one that's a little outside the box. So with that background, here are the shail.So the first one is going to be a Hamid Shavala of a Pesach related Shaila. Let me find the text so I can get the exact the exact noesach of the shayla. It went like this.It went like this. Here we go. Hi, Rabbi. Looking forward to seeing you later. Okay, unrelated, Shaila. I accidentally purchased a few bottles of scotchfor the bar mitzvah. This person is making bar mitzvah, the son's bar mitzvah, from Capis. Anyone know what Capis is? I didn't know what it was either.Only then, I thought to call to see if they did a Mechira. I spoke to the owner, nice Jewish family. Did not do a Mechira. So now I thought to call to see if they did a mechira. I spoke to the owner. Nice Jewish family. Did not do a mechira. So now I want to return the bottles for a cash refund. Would that bea problem of getting Hanna'ah from Khmer Chavrallah, Pesah? You already bought all the scotch. Now to return it, he's going to get money back. So is that a violation of Hannaa from Khmerichuvela Pesah. Good. Shaila 1.Shaila 2. Yeah, good. Okay. Shaila 2. There is a fellow that sometimes Davenzumajul, who is a popular Jewish singer. And over the courseof Yantif, he was in many different hotel programs. In fact, if you open up any Jewish newspaper, you would find his picture in just about every hotel program advertisement.He said next year he's not even going to sing anywhere. He's just going to sell his face. And they'll put it in every advertisement and then he doesn't even have to show up. They'll just say, oh, you know, he couldn't make it. Anyway, he's not really going to do that. That would be another Shaila.

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And it wouldn't be much of a Shaila.

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So one of the programs that he went to had a Motsso Shabbis, Motsai Yantiv concert, right? Because they do night activities in all these places every night of Chalam Ovid. And they also do one on Motsu Yantv, sort of like a grand finale. So, for example, the place where I spent the second part of Pesach, first part we're always home. The second part of Pesach, they had a comedian on the second part of Peser. So this fellow did a concert on Mulsayyantus.A person comes over to him in the hotel around Milchaheim, I guess on Shabas, an hour or two before his concert, and says, how could you do a concert tonight? It's Svira, you know, an hour or two before his concert and says, how could you do a concert tonight? It's Svira. It's one thing of Holomoi, but it's Svira. And he thinks in his mind, weren't you by the pool all day today on Shabas? Okay, but he didn't say that. My son just got back from Shalavim and he told me this is Aser, right?So, okay, so I think one year in Shalvim should be enough to be able to pass in that. So anyway, so you wanted to know if it was in fact Aser for him to do that concert, he saidAgav, that he personally his family Minogue is he observed Svira from Roshchodish to the end. So it wasn't Svira for him. But is there an issue with him performing? He alsowanted to know, and what about him taking jobs after Lagba Omer, when a lot of jobs come in, and there's a lot of singing and dancing at that point in time, but it is going to be Svirafor him. So that was one Svira related Shaila. Another Svira related Shailu, just to throw it in there if we're going to choose the second grouping of Shail. Another sphere related Shail, I got a textfrom a cousin of mine in Eritz Israel who told me that a colleague of his, a coworker of his, is getting married next in two weeks. He's getting married before Lakhvaomer after Rosh Khadash.Am I to go to the wedding. They're getting married. Mamish at the time that everybody holds is Asa to get married. So is he allowed to attend the wedding for this co-workers? So that is, I guess, all that will be Sha'Leh No. 2, Svirate related Shaila. Shaila No. 3, as far as I know, is not an actual Shaila Lamaisa,or it may be, but it was not asked of me, I should say, nor do I know who was asked of or what the answers were, but it's an interesting case that apparently happened. I may be getting some of the details wrong, but, you know, the Shemua in rabbinic circles was that the following case may have happened. There is a family where, Rahman al-Lat-Slan, unfortunately, as with many families, there was a lack of shalom in the family.In this particular instance, a couple, an older couple, had two children, and they more or less, the kids more or less, got along with their mother, did not at all get along with their father, but they tolerated him so long as Mom was alive.Mom passed away a few years ago, and several years ago, and in the almost immediate aftermath of Mom's Petira, dad and the kids got into an all-out horrible fight, horrible argument. They haven't spoken in years. They haven't spoken in years. The kids get a phone call one day.Just if you're interested, you should know, dad's in the hospital. He's dying. You can come say your goodbyes. They hadn't spoken to him in years, but they figured, you know, at a time like that, they're going to go. So they go to the hospital to say their goodbyes to their father and then he's in a coma he's on a respirator he's not at all conscious so they say well kind of goodbye you know is there any way that he's going to bethat he's going to be awake again so you know broke their heart to see him like that even with all their history is there any way that he's going to be awake again so they they said, well, there are two options. One is, he's having end stage, whatever disease, one option is we leave him on the respirator and he'll die within a month or two.

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But he's never going to be conscious. The person can't be, if he's on a respirator, he's not

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going to be. The other option is we take him off the respirator and then he'll die within a couple of days, but he'll be conscious for those couple of days and you'll be able to talk to him. So what do you guys want to do? So they said, we think we want closure.We'd like to talk to him and we think he would like to talk to us also. And they took him off the respirator and they spent a couple of days without asking Ashaila. Very important. Without asking Ashailaand they spent a couple of days of deep emotion together with him asking Mechila for all that they did to him, him asking Mechila for all that he did to them and they cried togetherthey reminisced together. They spoke about their mom and they all very beautiful, beautiful two days together. And then he passed away two days later. And now they have a Shaila. Are we murderers? Meaning do we, what kind of chuvra do we need to do for what we just did?And they said, by the way, he said thank need to do for what we just did?

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And they said, by the way, he said thank you to us for making that decision.

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He would not have wanted to die without having had the opportunity to spend those couple of days. Good? Okay, so we have Shaila number one, which was the Schnapps that was already purchased. Shaila number two, which was all the sphere of Shailas, the musical performer. And Shaila number three, about the fellow that was pulled off a respirator and potentially murdered by his children.Any...

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Three?

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Yeah? Okay. All right. But this is like it's the most... First of all, it's the most... First of all, it's not really Shaila, because they did it.It's over, they did what they did. So it sounds so much of Shail. Second of all, whatever ideas we're going to discuss, you have to understand the gravity of this. We're talking about Rizich over here. So whatever ideas we might draw,whatever Svara's we might say,ackel, this direction or the other, you need to be a godol to really deal with it. And even then, and even then, you're probably nervous and how to answer Sartre Shaila. So we're just talking, you know, ideas over here. Okay? Just let's get that, let's get that out of the way. A respirator. Let's say to keep a patient alive,you can attach him to a rest, you can put him on a respirator. Are you obligated to do so? It's going to keep him alive. So to attach a patient to a respirator is probably not required, according to mostpost. If there is a chance, if probably not required, according to most posts. If there is a chance, if there's no chance that he will recover. If there's a chance he will recover and he needs time and you're hoping that while he's on the respirator, they'll be able to treat his, I don't know, whatever other, you know, was pneumonia or whatever, that's a bad example, but his other, whatever medical problems that he's having,then you're obligated to do so. But if he's going to stay in a coma, he's never going to wake up again. And it's just a matter of keeping him in that state. And he's not yet on a respirator, many, many poscom, many poscom that we would ask these kinds of shyness to.And again, I'm leaving all names out of this because it's too sensitive. But many postskin, you could ask me after, but many, many Postkin would say that there's no obligation to put him on a respirator. However, if he's already on a respirator, to take him off of it, is much more thorny. When I say thorny, I mean really problematic, right? Meaning because that is going to causecertainly if it's going to cause them to die immediately. That's highly problematic. Over here, it's not immediate. It's going to take a few days. The person will be able to survive, breathe on their own. So that's already a little bit more cloudy.Most Postcom will not tell you you can do it, but there's room to argue that that's not Ritzichael, meaning you're going to take a person off a respirator. They're going to live for a few days, just not as long as they would have lived on the respirator. Quality of life off the respirator is going to be much, much higherbecause they're going to be able to actually communicate with you, and they'll be conscious, and they'll be able to do mitzvos and chuv and whatever. That is not, R Reb Marcus told me he once had such a Shaila with an older person and he told me he askedagain, I'm leaving out names he asked one of the Godole Aposkim and he was told that they can remove the person from respirator if the doctors think that they'll have a few days to liveover here though let's say let's say that this is some form of Ritziechha who's the murderer

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the doctor right they don't let the family do it right they don't say ah

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finally our revenge and that you know right they the doctor is the one that does it so what is the doctor as far as the, so does that absolve the kids of any responsibility here? Ain't she al-Zvah, Vara, right? So you would think, ain't shlach, vah, bara, and therefore, they have no responsibility whatsoever. So what's the s'far of Ainshlechlech of Vara Veyra? No, Kiddush, man.

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Devereur rab, Devere Rav, De, Atalma, Diverr Mishon.

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We discussed in a shir this year? Yeah, so Deverar rab and Dever, Dever, Dever, Dever, Dever, Degov, I have like no memory. We spent like three weeks on it.

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Diverrav, Dever, Dever, Eichoman, right?

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So, what's the famous chakira, about Dibrearva, Dibre, Atlma, Dever, Mishoman. What? Ah, so what exactly is the Svara, Dvvira, Dvada, Dv, Mishol, Misholman. Is it, I didn't think he would listen? Or is it he should know better? Right?Le Maenafkaminah, where I knew he was going to listen. How did I know he's going to listen? He's a hitman. I found him in the Yellow Pages, under Hitman. And I called him up, and that's what he does for a living. And he says, over a thousand served or whatever.He's got an old cemetery named after him.

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I don't know. You know that he listens. You know that this is what he does. Or he's a physician.

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I mean, this is what, if they give you that choice, should we take him off the respirator and you make that choice? That's what they do. So you know that they're going to listen. They're not going tonot listen in these cases. So would you say in such a case, maybe ye shaliyah, Vara, but over here Lachar it's even more fundamental. Because if you learn the Suki and Kudušin Mimil, the Gimmerer discussesain't Shliahud's Vara Veyer. And the Gimara tells us, at least according to one possibility, that the Shita of Shama Yazakit is, that there's one case where Yaisalikud Vara Vaira. And what Avera is that?Mitzichah. Now when it comes to murder, Yeh Shliyak with Vara Veyra. How do they learn it? Because Davramelech is blamed as the one who killed... Who? Oria.

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The one who killed Oria, right?

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Did Davra Melech himself kill Oria? No. He sent it to the front lines. But maybe, maybe, says the Gimari, Yesh, Shui Yashu Y'i'amu Kermazir, and therefore, the Mishalajah is going to be Chayev in that case, which is a very interesting thing.The idea that the Gimari says, Shain Yasim, Degaldi, Rahmanah, also harakda becher of Beneyama. You killed him using the swords of B'nai Amo. A fascinating idea. You, David, have killed him in that way.The Radak, it happens to be in Shmual Bees, Parakeet Bees, says that that's only true by Uriahchiti, because David was a mellach. Right? So when a mellach decides that it's over, it's going to be over.But other people don't have that same level of certainty that their decree is going to be carried out. But anyway, so, okay, but that's Shita of Shamae, who says we pass in that way. I mean, we would not be Mechay of Misa for such a thing. It happens to me. It's a very fascinating discussion what the Svara is.Meaning, is it just Gzerasakas or is there like a svara? That's why Ritzichu should be different than other Vairos. So Ravl Yashiv, I saw quoted, based on the Rambam in the fourth paragraph of Hylchus Rzeh. The ramum says that a murderer who doesn't have sufficient witnesses, like let's say there's Edos Mi Yucadas against the murder, or there's Edos that are machis Bibdikos.So technicality, the guy didn't have Aedom against him, but he went in Middle Times Square. They were ashrah, and they saw him. He murdered, but he made it. Everyone saw it, but on technicality. The Aden, you know, contradict each other on some, you know,silly questions that don't really matter, that are not no gay, to the Aedos itself. So you know that the guy's a murderer. So the Robin says, Daphka in such a case, you maknisal lukipa.-l-kipa. You put him in a jail and you let him starve and you let him die. And the Roman writes,Aflpis she-eash-eash-eash-eash-harmes, even though there are avaros that are more chumur than shi-hizhahmichuva shalam. Nothing destroys society like murder destroys society. So Viliashu suggests maybe that's the extra humra of murder that yes to a chlidavara because it's not only destructive in the sensethat it's an avera, it's the most destructive to society in general. I saw another suggestion from the Rashiva of Parat Yosef who says that maybe it's because Ritsicha is something it's very unpleasant. Even killing small animals is very unpleasant.Bugs is unpleasant. Oh, can you kill it?

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It's very unpleasant.

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So people who want to murder somebody will very often call them someone else to do the job. So it might be the more common way to commit murder, and therefore we want to make sure that Timeshallah is chayev as well. Be that as it may, it doesn't seem that we pass in that way. However, even though we don't necessarily pass in that Yeh,Shlech, the Rambam writes in Hilchus Ruez, but Isochere Havaray Gla Rogenh, Javier, Hittman. Wow, you shalach avada, Bahadah. Shemir Senevich Perg Bays. But I socher Horreg Lahrogas Kavirau. Wow. You hire a hitman. Oh, shesholach avadaBahagu. Or you're cheap. You don't want to hire hitman. You just find your Evid, who works for you. And you say,do me favor. Can you go kill that guy from me? Oh, Shakafas Chavarou Vinyal up Nechalbefore Aari. Or you take your friend to the zoo. You stick them at them when you say, look there, or you take your friend to the zoo, you stick them at them, you know, you say, look there, and then you shove them into the lions then,and that's it, and then you don't let him out. So now he's going to get killed by the lions. I don't think you're actually able to do that in most zoos, right? They're more safe than that. Right, there was that story with Harambe with that kid, so you had that.My totally unrelated. My sister just sent me a picture of my nephew, who was a little boy. I have no idea how old. I don't know, seven years old, let's say. And he was at the petting zoo.They live in Florida. And he had his sunglasses. And he went to each goat and put his sunglasses on each goat. He thought the goats were squinting. Okay, anyway, it's the weirdest. Strange kid.But my sister's going to kill me for talking about that story. There's nothing to do with the sheer. But, okay. So the Rambamites, what do you do? Your higher hit hit man, your co-face before Ari, or anything like this. And theno hei, gaseh, but chenah, hajanae'iqa, ch'emim. You're a shofeichtomim for doing such a thing. And vaheu'u'i'i go to bea-a-sumai. Okay, so you're not going to have. But mishol-a-shaeem you're going to have.And ain't been misisbeisbe and how do I know that so says drama shahre oomer shovic dam the adam by Adamto say he'ller he shriek by itself shall not have de shillik as dumb of the soulshaltzsche is a horrig atso me yet all chaya adrushanu is the mosta man over to phoever before you toopov miyad miat the adam my head he shach abrosh as nevash the other is the Horig Atsmow. Myad all chahya adrashenu, it's a moose, before he'll be taffo. Mead adorn, he shakiv adrocious nevash of a adam,is the shokhaer al-ah, he has psook him for each one. And whenever it says Lashemirishah, it means Hachorah, who's going to pay you backfor that? So we can't, like, hide behind the doctors over here and say, no, we're absolved of any guilt because the doctors are the women particularly when it comes to Rizhichah,those who send the people to do the Rizhichah are also very much connected to the Avera. Now, are there any svaras to be lenient over here, to say that maybe they're not Rootskinand they didn't murder their father? So number one, the Rama quotes a Seifar Khashidim and Tavshin Chimbel. Dramah quotes in Yardaya, Simshin Lamathev alif from Seifahchahid, where the Seifahazidine discusses what Dramma, the Rama, the Ramah formulates as Hasaras Hamonea. Let's say a person is dying. And they're trying to die in peace.But they're in a New York hospital. And outside the window, there's someone doing construction work on the street, a jackhammer. And the person is trying to die. But they can't because this annoying jackhammer is keeping them awake it doesn't it won't let them just like drift off right are you allowed to stop jackhammering it's keeping the person alive so says rammer that's what's called the sarah samanea if there's something it's keeping a person alive and he gives an example making loud noises that just won't let him drift off. So it's keeping him alive.You're still, but it's not keeping him alive. It's preventing him from dying. Right? He's dying and this is preventing him from dying. So you're allowed to removethat which is preventing him from dying. That's the one of the two examples that the Ramah gives. One could argue. The person has to be a Gossace for that to be true. It has to be a case of Gassisa.So one could argue that if this fellow is a Gossace, this old man is a Gossace, and he just wants to die, but this respirator is keeping him alive, that it's an example of hasarasamonea. Now, a person could argue, oh, there's a big difference between some external monaa andsomething that's meant for refua, meaning this is part of a medical treatment, but it doesn't seem that way from the Seifahidim. It seems that it's an issue of cassisa. The challenge with this, why is this not, okay, good, a good a home run great they did the right thing no why is this not like the greatestuh

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hether in the world

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what what's not immediate so that's better even better he's giving him a lot

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he could have lasted another month

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how do you define a second it's a very what another month. Meaning, he could have lessed another month. How do you define Gose's exactly? It's a very, what?

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So it's very tricky to know exactly what the gather of Goses is.

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Let's say the respirator were to, there would be a blackout, right? Or a fuse blow on the respirator. I don't know if such things are. They have generators in hospital. Let's say a fuse blue and the respirator I don't know if such things are they have generators in hospital let's say a fuse blue and the respirator stops working and it's Shabbasare allowed to be Makhl Shabas turn it back on

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you don't want to take that chance

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it's the beginning of Shabbas Pasha's yeah right meaning this be cool al-Mathash we're not we're not ready to say that chance. It's the beginning of Shadda. Pasha's, yeah, right? I mean, this is Bikovych. We're not ready to say that he's got a foot in the grave yet. And the definition of Gossis is a very challenging definition. It's probable that he does qualify, but not so Pasha.Another suggestion I saw from, yeah?

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Yeah. another suggestion I saw from Yeah I don't know If they were to put him back on the respirator I don't know

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When they're

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Yeah I don't know

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The medical

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ramifications of that Meaning I don't know It could be once he's taken off They can't bring him back I don't know

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You know What do they do? They induce a coma When a person's on a respirator Is that what they do? Anyone know?I mean I think You definitely can't be conscious. So I assume it's some sort of induced coma. Do I tell you this, Maisa? An unbelievable Maisa, Noghata Yama Shabbat Yama Shawa. Right? Unbelievable Maisa.I don't know if I told you guys this Maisa. Some of you may be. I don't know if I said in Shire. I was Menach Mavala woman on Eref Pesach, two days before Pesach. And she was sitting Shiva for her father. And she told me that her mother, woman on Eref Peasach, two days before Pesach, andshe was sitting Shiva for her father. And she told me that her mother had passed away five years earlier. Both her parents were Holocaust survivors. And she said that her mother died in the most tragicof ways. She went into the hospital for a routine procedure. And that day in the hospital, a representative of pharmaceutical company was there to sell a new product that was used in this procedure that the mother was having and was overseeing the surgery to show them how to use this product in the patient.And the representative from the company was unaware that you can't put the product in upside down or didn't know which way it goes in. I don't know what product was. I don't know put the product in upside down or didn't know which way it goes in. I don't know what product was. I don't know what organ they were working on or whatever, but they put the product in upside down and it immediately put the mother into a coma and she never, she wasn't waking up.I mean I wanted to ask the question. What's the question you would ask? Did you sue? I wanted to ask, I mean, it's not polite. I said, I didn't ask. Like, you should be so rich right now. I mean, like, that, you would imagine the lawsuit,that that's why doctors have malpractice insurance because of horrible stories like that. But anyway, that's not the point in the story. She was in a coma, and they were trying to wake her up from the coma. She was dying now. She was going to die.But they were trying to wake her up from a coma so that they could have some, you know, some time with her, some conversation with her. They couldn't get her out of a coma. The doctors were trying everything. They couldn't, they couldn't wake her up. One doctor says to them, is she a Holocaust survivor? They said, yes. So he said, let me try something. This doctor grew up in a home, both of his parents were German. He grew up in a German speaking home. He went over to her and yelled at her in German.And she woke up. This woman said to me, she said, I don't believe these kinds of stories. It was my mother, I saw it with my own eyes. Something so deep in terms of the impact that such an experience had on a person. It's just like mind-boggling.You know, it literally woke her out of a coma. Because that deep, her eyes opened up, and they had two more months with her conscious before she passed away. But anyway, so a coma is, you know, these are tricky things. I'm sure I'm going to get emails from doctors telling me I'm a total idiot.

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I don't know what I'm talking about and that everything I'm saying is like totally off. Okay, good.

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A second, but again, we're not talking La Mice over here. We're talking just in theory over here and not even that. You know, we're just, you know. Okay. A second, uh, SAD Le Cula, and I saw quoted by one of the Godoli Apulskin of our generation, uh, the meirian Yuma daf pei-he discusses the idea that were Mechal Shabbas, right? And he writes as follows, Mishunaflalov mapola someone who you knowis is stuck underneath rubble a building caved in on him Suffolk yes no shavik enoshab building caves in you're like oh my god was anyone in there oh I think your uncle might have been in there was he didn't uncle go to whatever for Shab is it I don't know, but he might have been in there.

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I don't know if he was just sleeping in or if he was away for Shabbas.

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I don't know. So you don't even know if he's there. But he might be there. And even if there's a second suffolk, Ahch. And even if there's a second suffolk, whooom his sham, even if he's there there he might be dead already so what are you doing you mchal shabas by pulling off the rubble what are he going to accomplishhe might not be there and even if he is there he might be dead already and ch'in afkish tim salome shu chai suffolk um savik goi savik israeli and even if he is alive he is there and he is alive was he uncle jewish and he is alive. Is he uncle Jewish? I don't know. I don't know if uncle's Jewish. So it's a subject whether he's a Jew or a non-Jew. Mechal and a love.You still mechal Shabbas. He's chileu, lefakhah, who bachu'atko be chotmo. Um, let's say you start pulling off the rubble and you feel breathed by his nose. He feel that he's breathing. Maschliemen in bik's breathing. You continue the job. Af al-Pishin is barres,he is not actually lo, l'hikios, even though you know he's not really going to make it. He's going to die anyway. She, be Osa shahah, Yashu Bili-Bo vizvada.Whoa. What does he say? Why? We're going to get him one moment. We'll get him an instant of time because what's going to happen in that one moment? Yashab Bilibo v. Yashvah. He might have an opportunity to do chuvra. So that moment of chuvra may be more valuable than anything else. So apparently the value of Chayeshah is the ability to do chuvrato fix what you did improperly during your lifetime. What these children did is they gave their father the opportunity for Chuba in addition to themselves the opportunity to Chuba, but the father the opportunity to Chuba and to get Mechila from those that he had wronged. And in that sense, you know, they were makaiim,Uri Yshaenam Mishina Mishinaascham in the Ramah Milchus Chouva sense, as well as in the literal sense. Again, you would not say this, Lecula, right, to say, okay, so don't be Mechal Shabbas for someone who doesn't have the capacity for Chuba. You would never say such a thing, right?If someone, let's say it doesn't have the mental capacity for Chuba. You wouldn't say, oh, so we won't be Mahal Shabbas for someone who doesn't have the capacity for Chufa. You would never say such a thing. Right? If someone let's say it doesn't have the mental capacity for Chufa. You wouldn't say, oh, so we won't be Mahal Shabbas because it's only Chahua anyway. No, we'd be Mahal Shabbishab, even someone who doesn't have the mental capacity for Chufa. But it's a svarra to put out there. In general, we have been macabal from Gidola Yolam that when people are dealing in a Bdiyavad situation,that they've already done it. They've already done what they've done. There's limited value in making them feel that they are murderers and that they are, you know, that they, that they, making them feel overly guilty. More value probably in telling themwhatever you did was not right. You shouldn't ever do it again. You shouldn't tell people what you did. But as far as yourselves, you should do mitzvils.Meissim tovili to alias nishmas. Meaning that would be the more try to be more productive. You know, Ravashawais often talks about I think he says from the Khidusha Arinthat he said all the al-heets on Yom Kippur but he said them I think Ravashar's Lashan was at supersonic speed because there's only so much emphasis you should put on in the pastand indiscretions that you've done in the past much more emphasis on how to be productive in the future but at the same time we're talking about Ritsichuu here so you don't want to say that too much don't feel too guilty what do you mean don't feel too guilty of Ritzitit's a very very touchy case so again hopefully this is all just a discussion and this was never actually La Maisa the impression I get I've heard murmurings of some kind of case like this that was going around. But, you know, we should never know from such things. We have five more minutes for one of the other showings.Any questions? Someone new question? Yeah?

Speaker 21898.54s - 1909.04s

I mean, the second spot, in that case, when you're not taking more time. You're going to die anyway. All they do is going on to get an opportunity to live, and they's not taking more time. You're going to die anyway. All right here is going to live, and they can be the case presented.

Speaker 01909.94s - 1911.14s

Right, right.

Speaker 21911.26s - 1915.7s

But it's just that the Miri emphasized that point. You know, Rabbi Blyche once,

Speaker 01917.62s - 1996.12s

Rabbi Blyche happens to be in general on these types of issues, very Mahmere in the sense that he wants the person to live as long as possible and he requires extreme intervention, much more so than like Rabbi Schechter and Ravailig would. That's my experience at least. So, granted, it's a limited experience, but that's the sense that I get. So, Rabbi Blaheyach, in a presentation about this topic once, saidthat when his mother was dying and also they did extreme interventions I think to keep her to keep her alive. She was barely conscious. She was never opening right before Shabbas. He was leaving for Shabbas. His mother opened her eyes and said good Shabbas. And he said, and visions of Ribi Kiva Eager flashed before my eyes.What does he mean? How are you maked in the midst of Kiddish on a Daraisa level? Rabbi Kivaegu Kvaegra'i says Shabbat Atav. So he says there she was makam a mitzvahraaisa. So when you thought her life, she had no quality of life, and what can she accomplish?What can she do? A mitzvvada-a-a-she was maka. She was makaim. Okay. Others would say, yeah, but had no quality of life. What can she accomplish? What could she do? A mitzvada rice. She was in the kind. Okay. Others would say, yeah, but she's also in pain. And, you know, like, you have to balance all these things. All right. Any other questions? Zaki has done?Okay.

Speaker 21997.76s - 1999.54s

Five more minutes, one of the others?

Speaker 02000.1s - 2003.48s

Which one? The concert? Whiskey.

Speaker 22003.96s - 2005.34s

Whiskey. Okay. Okay. All right, so we'll try to answer both within five minutes. Which one? The concert? The whiskey. The whiskey?

Speaker 12005.34s - 2006.74s

Okay.

Speaker 02007.2s - 2009.74s

All right, so we'll try to answer both within five minutes.

Speaker 22010.16s - 2011.68s

So we're not going to go through the whole taiga.

Speaker 02012.08s - 2230.72s

The whiskey just very quickly, just to answer the actual Shaila. There is an Ishranao of Hamid Shavala of Pesach. Strictly speaking, returning Hamidets to a Jewish store that sold you Hamishallah, al-Av-Peschahs, why? It's a Meccahto. They sold youwhiskey that's worth $0.0.0. Without telling you that it's worth $0.0.0.0. The whole thing is a Mechah Tos. There's a Bittal Mech. You deserve all your money back. I, but you have a problem. The only wayyou can get your money back is by giving them back the the scotch right you're not going to get the money back otherwise nevertheless it's still make since min adin you're you're obligated to give you back your money you don't have to give up that money that min ad in their obligated that's not called getting anna from Khamme Shrava Bessah they have to give you back money. That Minaddin, they're obligated. That's not called getting an NAA from Khammechramalavala Bessah. They have to give you back that money. That's their requirement, Minad.It's just that. They're not going to fulfill their requirement unless you give them that Khammechapalavala Pesan. So on that level, it seems that it's mutter. The Magnavram and Simintov-Mem does raise the issue of, yeah, but what are they going to do with it then?What are they going to do with that scotch? That you give back to them? It goes right back on the shelter and the next unsuspecting Jew that walks into the store. In that case, it might be an issue of Lufnaiv there.Samaginavram seems concerned about this, but the Rakhashul Khan in Simitaph, Mitziv Katnud, says that he's not so concerned. I would just add that if you're in a community that's Rove Gaiyim, say, well, mehiketes,you've got to Juv, they'll sell it to a Gai. And even if you're a community that's Rove Israel, but all the Israelim are from, and they all look at their lists of where I'm allowed to shop and where I'm not allowed a shop, although my experience is you can give a list of 50 storesthat are perfectly acceptable to shopping, and there's one store that's questionable, or that's a perfectly acceptable. And everyone must go to that one store. Like, Maim Ginovian Taku is never more apparent than in the day or two after Pesaf, you know, where people must shop. I don't know why.I don't know why everyone feels like they need to, but that seems to be the case a lot of times. Like, can I buy whatever, Crazy Arnie's or something like something? I remember what it was. Crazy Arnees may be okay. I don't know if it's not. I didn't look at the list. of time like can I buy at whatever crazy arnie's or something like something I remember what it was crazy arnies maybe okay I don't know if it's not I didn't look at the list but uh but there's someone like whoever buys I don't know but okay so that that's that's that's that's one channel so Mastama it's Muta'sfor him to return it to get his money back because they own that money. As far as performing at a concert. So, first of all the Parnasa, all the Postcom say that the performer is allowed to perform during his own Svira, right, for Parnasa. The Shaila is to perform during everyone else's spherewhen he suspects, and most of the people coming there are observing the first day of Sphere in Tillagbaoam. So he said, he asked the rabbi, the program, and the rabbi said, well, it's Ishrukha, I don't think there's any heter of Ishrusha. I don't think that's reallya thing. But the the Svara to be Meekl, I think, is that is that it's, you know, it's not Vadailifme either.People have to make that decision. days of Sphere am I keeping and if they're keeping the first thing don't go to the concert you don't have to be at the concert there was a concert in the hotel that I was at in Chalamoidand I didn't go because Ruf Shafah was Mahmira already applied during Chalamoid so I didn't go to the concert during Chalamoi okay it was hard to escape in my room I was able to hear it from there.It was in a tent outside. And I heard him singing that Adam of a Shama and Shama and Samimam song, I'm like, Ah!

Speaker 12231.04s - 2234.72s

The fellow who did the concert,

Speaker 02234.84s - 2249.1s

it was a different musician by the hotel that I was at. After he sang Adam of Hashmayam said, you know, there's a beautiful history. It was reported to me after it. There's a beautiful history to this song. There's a beautiful history. It comes from Indian culture after it. There's a beautiful history to this song. It's a beautiful history.It comes from Indian culture. Like he was Mamish saying,

Speaker 12249.28s - 2253.34s

he's not for the Zara. He didn't even realize that's what he was saying.

Speaker 02254.34s - 2344.02s

Another, the guy who dives in the Meishul sometimes is a prominent Jewish musician. I don't like to throw around names. But he said that he was singing, Adam Shama in one of the hotels, and a kid comes running up to the stage with Tamin al-Hara on his smartphone.So, okay. So I would think that he would be allowed to perform. As far as attending the wedding in between, you know, when it's Vada Yasser, and there's time that's Vada Yasser, so on Mosh's Chbhāsa. So Rosh has achieved about this. Sir Rumsiraa, that Svira is a minag,and being mesmehah, Samakal, is a mitzvah, mitsvah overrides, mishvah. That's where Ravshel holds that we're obligated to shave on Fridays during Svira, right? Because the not shaving is only a minag, and shaving for Shabbis,if you don't look nice, to shave for Shabbas is a requirement, is a mitzvah so a mitzvah overrides minhag that's a sort of shahdhul So, so Rav Moshal, you could go beMusamaa chasmu Kala You'd go be Musamaa chasemakala And you don't have to worry about it even though What they're doing is wrong, then I'll get married in that time. But what I tell you, I got this text from my cousin inIsrael. My cousin told me the Rabanut doesn't do weddings between Roshchod, Dish and Lakh Boma. Which means, yeah, this wedding is very likely a non-Cosher wedding. If that's the case,I don't know that there is a Mitzvim, Samaya Chas and the Kala. If the wedding's being done by a reform rabbi and they may not have

Speaker 12344.02s - 2352.22s

two Khashar-Aidim and that. So then it gets much more much more thorny yeah yeah that would

Speaker 02352.22s - 2361.64s

do it between like there's a there's a there's other other show in town okay I don't

Speaker 12361.64s - 2366.7s

know all right so we'll stop there everyone have a wonderful shabas