2024 NFL Draft: Instant Fantasy Football Reactions for Rounds 2 & 3 | Keon Coleman, Ladd McConkey, Jonathon Brooks & More! (Ep. 1255)

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This is the Fantasy Football Podcast ORG. It is me, Joey P. Joe Pizapia. And in case you missed it, night two of the NFL draft This is the fantasy football podcast. It is me, Joey P, Joe Pza Pia PERSON, and in case you missed it, night two of the NFL draft is in the books. Round two and round three are done and dusted, and we are going to shake the dust off of them and tell you about the fantasy assets you need to know going into your 2024 redraft dynasty and keeper leagues.We've got all the breakdowns, all the analysis, just like we did for night one. And this is the shorter version of that on the audio side in case you didn't have time to join us live. But that's okay. You can always go back and watch on our YouTube ORG channel, Fantasy pros, subscribe to the YouTube ORG channel,drop your comments below. And also don't forget to ring the bell to let goes ding for notifications. We've got giveaways. We've got all kinds of fun stuff. Not to mention amazing content because in the weeks ahead, we're going to be doing mock drafts, evaluations of rankings now that these rookies have landed in certain spots and certain teams. So we are now,whether you like it or not, and I think if you're listening, chances are you like it. We are in the fantasy football season, folks. So before we get to all that content that's waiting ahead of us in the weeks and months to come, let's take a step back. Let's take a breath and get you caught up on the best of night two, round two, and three. There's some running backs and wide receivers we got to cover and a whole lot more. So we're going to get after it right now with our incredible crew at fantasy pros. All right, I've got a curveball for you here, potentially. Another wide receiver that you mentioned before.What about Keon Coleman PERSON as potentially a guy who could land here? What would that look like, Thor PERSON?

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Certainly a possibility. And a guy that would be a good fit with Josh Allen. The thing that Keon Coleman PERSON will not do for you is separate from cornerbacks. He's not very fast. He ran the 4-6-1. And last year, PFF separation percentile,Keon Coleman PERSON, not a typo, and I'm not going to make a mistake here. It was the 0th percentile. But what is he awesome at? It's downfield ball skills. He, like, you know, the stuff I just said,you're like, oh, you know, people that have never seen him before at home, you're probably like, oh, that guy must be a bum athlete. No, no, no, no. He started out his career at Michigan State because he was a dual sport guy who was on the Michigan State basketball team playing for Tom Izzo PERSON. The guy can leap out of the gym and he's got the ball skills. He got vice grip hands as well.And you see the leap out of the gym thing. It's not just going up to get the ball. You will see him hurtled defenders in the open field. You try to go out and take out Key on Coleman PERSON's knees. Get ready. He's going to do the pogo stick thing that he does. And then he'll just keep trucking up field. So he's like the T. Higgins PERSON thing would be an example of a round two receiver that has a skill set like this that obviously pop. Cortland Sutton would be one. But then there's also, it could go the other way that bus,Mike Mayer PERSON, our boss and buddy who's listening out there already knows the name I'm going to go to here. J.J.R. Segal White's PERSON eye would be an example the other way. But that kind of a guy goes

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in round two every year. All right. Keon Coleman is the selection from Florida GPE statewide receiver.

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6.3213.

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He is the first pick for night two, round two of the NFL ORG draft.

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So let's talk about him.

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Andrew Erickson PERSON, give us the fantasy breakdown here in your evaluation of Keon Coleman, who is now a Buffalo ORG bill.

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I really like the spot. I mean, Thor PERSON just kind of hit on how he can be effective in this offense. Look, he's going to a relatively weak wide receiver depth chart. And he mentioned, or Thor mentioned how we saw Keon Coleman start at Florida GPE, or excuse me, at Michigan State ORG. You know who else was on that team?Jaden Reed, a guy that we saw in the NFL ORG ball out as a rookie,

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Keon Coleman PERSON outproduced him at a younger age. Like, that matters to me, that when he was faced in other NFL ORG talent, he was putting up numbers and producing in that offense. And even at Florida State ORG, a bunch of other talented players in that offense as well. So I like Ken Coleman PERSON.

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I, you know, looking at the 40-yard dash time, it was not great. But then you also look at, well, how did he do in some of the, in the drills, like the gauntlet drill. Oh, he's going up for 20 miles per hour in the gauntlet drill. Teams are considering that more than just looking at the hand time, the laser time of the 40-yard dash because we have this technology.Like, how fast is Keon-Colm PERSON when he actually plays? Oh, what do you know? He's pretty fast. And he's also catching the football. So I think this is a great spot for Keon-Colm PERSON. I'm excited for him.And, you know, you look at guys like Pierce PERSON-all. You look at guys like Legette. You know, they were taking the first round, quote-unquote. I mean, Keon Coleman. I'm excited for him. And, you know, you look at guys like Piercell. You look at guys like Leggett. You know, they were taking the first round, quote unquote.

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I mean, Keon Coleman got taken two picks later. So do not fall for the, oh, well, he was a second

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round pick. Like, he went 33rd. Right. Like right after these other two guys. So if you had King Coleman ranked ahead of both Legat PERSON and Pierceall pre-draft, like he's going to be ranked post-draft, even though he went in the second round.

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So Coleman joins Dawson Knox, Dalton Kincaid PERSON, James Cook, along with Josh Allen. So I'm going to ask the same question I asked before, Andrew PERSON. We were speculating about Ladd-McConkey PERSON. Now that's Keon Coleman PERSON, and you're looking at the fantasy pros numbers here. Mike Williams and wide receiver 46, above or below Mike Williams.

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You got to stop giving me the Mike Williams ones. I'm not taking my.

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I know, but neither am I.

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But again, that's exactly the point I think I'm trying to make here, which is I feel like

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a lot of people will look at that and they'll say, oh, Mike Williams, he's playing with Aaron Rogers. But again, he's playing on that turf. He's always hurt. To me, that's where you start looking and saying, do I want to take a chance on Mike Williams or an aging Tyler Lockett at 45 or Jameson Williams at 47 or do I starttaking shots at rookies? I think right around 50 is where we're talking about because after that it's the Jacoby Myers, Josh Downs, Romeo Dobbs grouping. I think the answer is yes on those guys. So when you push up, I don't know if I want to take him over Tyler Lockett, but over Mike Williams, I think that to me is that dividing line where I feel comfortable. Maybe if he has a good training camp, looks good in the preseason, things are going in the right direction. The buzz is good.And maybe I would take that leap of faith. Do you think you might as well? I would.

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Yeah, for sure. You know, Mike Williams, he's the same age as me. So he's washed at this point. Like, he's going to be 30 years old very, very soon. So can't draft Mike Williams. I'll take you on Coleman PERSON. Look, this is a really talented wide receiver class. And when you get the receiver that breaks out in the second half of theseason at a wide receiver 40 wide receiver 50 price tag, like that's what a league winner looks like. So yeah, you're going to draft a receiver or two that doesn't end up hitting. But if you draft enough of them, you only need one or two to hit and then you're going to be in the green. So I really like to interrupt guys.

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So we have a trade right now.

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Yeah, I've got it right here.

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Yeah.

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The Patriots are trading pick number 34 and 137 to the Chargers, 37 and 112.

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So the Chargers ORG have moved up and it looks like the pick is in for them. So Thor PERSON, do you want to speculate here on what that trade might be looking at? Maybe the guy that didn't just go potentially?

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I think the guy that we were banging the drum for to get taken, take and take. And I think he might be walking, well, maybe not walking to the podium, but he's about to hear his name called Lab McConkey PERSON right here. And Jim Harbaugh PERSON, you know, people were like, oh, take the receiver, oh, take the receiverat five, take the receiver at five, which we had some fun with because it's like, if you think Jim Harbaugh taking a wide receiver over Joe Alt PERSON, you haven't paid attention to his career or he didn't listen to his comments at the owner's meetings. But Lab McConkey PERSON is a receiver that is at least within the ilk of the thing that Jim Harbaugh PERSON typically looks for. An efficiency monster. You're talking about moving the chains, moving the chains, a decimated receiving core with the chargers.Lab McConkey PERSON is going to help out a ton with that. And if the chargers, the offensive constitution of it looks on the early downs like it did with the charters, you're going to see, or I'm sorry, with the Michigan Wolverines ORG, you're going to see more of the running on the early downs. But when they go back to pass, you have to be able to complete those passes. Obviously, they were last year on Michigan ORG.Lab Mconkey gets separation at a ludicrous rate. Last year, I think it was 97 percentile on the field and over three yards per row run. He had less of the box score stats because he was hurt last year. Right from out of training camp, he played well hurt. That cost them two games at the end of the box score stats because he was hurt last year right from out of training camp. He played well hurt. That cost him two games at the end of the season.But we see that this guy, he rolls out of bed getting separation. It's just what he does. And a guy who can play on the boundary as well. Last point I wanted to make on him, don't sleep on that. There's people that just want to think that he has a slot receiver for reasons that I won't get into. But he played 80% of his snaps on the boundary at Georgia ORG on those dominant Georgia teams that won two national championships in three years.Last year, they only lost one game. Ladmikonki is going to go in right away and probably be the wide receiver one on the charters next year and get a bunch of volume. So that's a guy for fantasy owners to keep their eye on very closely.

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You had a comp of him, Jordan Addison PERSON.

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Yeah.

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Walk me through that.

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Why Jordan Addison PERSON?

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Jordan Addison, a guy in the NFL right now, of course, playing in a 12-personnel

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for Kevin O'Connell with the Vikings ORG, a guy who could play slot.

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We saw that in college and interchangeably play on the outside.

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McConkey PERSON, when he's in the slot, is great.

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We saw that at Georgia. But in their 12 their 12 personal offense when he was, you know,

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80% on the boundary there, destroys people there.

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I was mentioning all the separation.

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McConkey also has the Juts to get downtown at 439 FAC. But the thing that reminds me of Addison FAC, it is that ability to separate the efficiency in the routes, the ability to win at all three levels, the reliability of the hands and the silky smoothness of the movement. It's not just the athleticism and the understanding of how to run routes. It's they almost have this movement style. It's like a jet ski. You know, like it's like gliding.It's not like running. It's like, you know, it's like just like this gliding sort of movement. And so it's just like difficult for the defensive backs, you know, because they can throttle up, throttle down, you know, and it's just more difficult for the defensive backs to get a beat on. Okay.

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So let's bring in a guest here to get his take on it. Joining us right now from the volume network is one of the best draft guys out there. This is John Middilkoff PERSON. John PERSON, thanks for joining us here on the program. I know you joined us on some other podcasts earlier in the year. I'm sure you are running on empty like all of us.But what do you make of this Atlanta Falcons ORG draft? Did they make up enough ground here, despite the fact the order might have been a little exotic? Did they do what they needed to do here in your opinion?

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Well, I got to push back on, can you guys hear me? We all good?

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On the Lions last year, because I think if we were comparing those, and I'm a big, like anyone, that falls to draft value, where you can get players. Last year's draft was pretty bad, right?

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There weren't as many high-end first-round players. Now, if you want to crush him for not taking Jalen Carter PERSON, understandable, but from a character standpoint, you could argue they weren't really built to do it. The running back they got really is much more in the mold of Alvin Kamara PERSON, Christian McCaffrey PERSON, you know, a dual threat catching the guy. And as we saw as the season played on, I mean, he's a dynamic player.It also gave them ability to get their second round pick, which got him Leporta PERSON. So I love their draft even at the time. And I'm an anti-runningback high guy, but the modern day running back is much more of a hybrid. He's essentially a slot receiver as well.To me, the Falcons ORG, it's insane. Because, and I'm a Michael Pennix guy, but part of team building, it's pretty clear, right, that they would have been better off giving the $100 million that they gave Kirk Cousins PERSON, if they knew what they knew today, which they had to have a pretty good idea because of the eighth overall pick.I would have got it if they traded up to get them or whatever. It was a big picture. They had the eighth overall pick. And this was a it if they traded up to get them or whatever. It was a big picture. They had the eighth overall pick. And this was a guy, even through his season, was viewed as probably, you know, by a lot of people in the NFL as like a late first round guy. So you were going to have a very good chance to get him.They gave $100 million to Kirk Cousins PERSON. What if they just would have given Sam Darnwell or Gardner, Minchu, 10 million, signed Wilkins with $85 million and taking this guy. This is not a project. To me, if you get Drake May or J.J. McCarthy PERSON, understand it.Let him be around cousins. Who's a little sensitive and clearly he's not happy because his agent came out right away. And you get, Michael Pennix is not some sit on the bench guy for two years. I mean, I'm not saying, who knows if he's going to be good or not? No one ever knows. But he's a plug-in-play quarterback.He's been starting for 17 years in college. He's ready to go. So to me, it's a waste of the allocated resources because the most powerful thing, the Vikings are going to get this, the Broncos ORG are going to get this, all the teams that draft the court is the contract, right? Because you then can sign 50, 80 million dollars when they're available.They're giving that to another quarterback. And that's the one position really in sports beside the kicker. You know, in basketball, you rotate guys in. Defensive line, you rotate guys in. Baseball, you can switch guy. Quarterback, one guy plays.So to me, it's a waste of resources, even if you're like, totally understand doubling down on the quarterback. And the Aaron Rogers cop with Jordan Love PERSON is stupid because Jordan Love a lot like even way worse than J.J. McCarthy or Drake May PERSON, major, major project.

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Right? So, and that was at the end of the first round. The other thing is Michael Panix

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has the eighth overall pick, unlike getting a guy in the late 20s, is pretty expensive. So he's immediately one of the highest paid backups in the NFL ORG. And I don't always agree with Chris Sims PERSON, but he had a pretty good point. During OTAs, it's not like Kirk Cousins PERSON is going to be out there. Well, who's going to be taking the reps? Pennix PERSON.What is the Atlanta Falcons ORG full of young, impressionable players? They're going to be like, damn. And the one thing, Belichick PERSON, you can crush him on certain things, was always a lead at locker room dynamics. It's already weird. And, you know, I see people like trade cousins.He's got a no trade clause. They're giving him $62 million of actual cash in like a six month period. And we know the way these cap work, you kind of mess with the cap. But they are pretty obligated on the dead cap for a couple years to keep him around. six-month period. And we know the way these cap work, you kind of mess with the cap, but they are pretty obligated on the dead cap for a couple years to keep him around. So it's just, it felt like a fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants move when you would have known probably early on in the process, January, early February, definitely the combine.Like, we're having a pretty good chance to draft this guy. Why not, okay, Sam Garnold PERSON was getting $10 million option for Vikings ORG. Why not getting $14 million one year, we're going to have a pretty good chance to draft this guy. Why not, okay, Sam Garnold was getting $10 million off from Vikings. Why not getting $14 million one year? Right? You could have manipulated it a little bit. And maybe they got pressure from the owner, but let's face it,that interaction last night was pretty bizarre.

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The Patriots ORG are going to blow up another draft. This is just like a few years ago, Andrew Erickson PERSON, that you and I sat on this very show. We were waiting for a selection for a wide receiver, and we got Taekwon Thornton PERSON. Instead, now we're going to get the wide receiver 19 on Thor PERSON's board. Jalen Polk from Washington, 122's Thor PERSON evaluation overall.Pick number 37, boys and girls.

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You could have Ladd-McConkie, and you trade down three spots and take Jalen Polk PERSON.

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We know we could have to say it out loud over and over again. But I know Andrew Erickson PERSON, you're going to say it over and over again for a very long time. Erickson PERSON, your thoughts and feelings about this election here. All right.

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So we'll stick with the positives first. It is a wide receiver. So that's good.

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Number one, draft. We are setting the bar very low here this evening.

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Yeah, I mean, look, he's my 13th ranked receiver overall. So there are plenty of guys I would have ranked and taken over him here. The two things to point out, though, he fits systematically to what they already had. Like, he can be an X. They needed an X receiver. They don't need more slot receivers.So I think that he can fill into that type of role. And the one of the Washington coaches that was with Polk last year as part of that offense now works for the Patriots ORG. So I'm assuming that that coach probably had some influence on this particular pick here. And that's why they went with it.

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I like John PERSON.

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You're on the stage here too because John PERSON. I don't think you can play on the it. I like John. I'm on the stage here, too, because John...

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I don't think you can play on the boundary.

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I have to say, before you go over.

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I think Polk PERSON is a slot only, and I don't think you can get down the field.

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We'll get to your take, too, Thor PERSON.

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We'll get to your take off, so I want to get John PERSON in here. You're here all night. John PERSON's in and out here. He's a busy man. So, John PERSON, give me your take on this selection here. Uh, if you're talking about taking guys potentially out of order, this has got to be like, uh,

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Christmas morning for you here. Maybe he was a top 10 guy on Jonathan Crafts PERSON board, because we know Jonathan Kraft now is the pseudo GM of the Patriots ORG. So yeah, I, listen, I, I, I've shorted the Patriots ORG organization hard, uh, just moving forward for the foreseeable future. I like Drake May PERSON. I just think it's a situation that is going to be very, very difficult. I mean, a coach who's been coaching for under five years.You know, this guy rose up the ranks really fast. And the negativity surrounding that organization with a quarterback, here's the thing. When you draft a guy like Drake May PERSON and your team's bad, no one's going to want to watch 17 games of Jacoby Brissette PERSON. So he's going to get thrown in way sooner than he should. And it could be really, really difficult.Now, I'm a Pac-12 guy. I think Polk PERSON's a solid player, but I'm with you. Elliot Wolf born and raised in the Green Bay system, where they're typically a little more height weight speed and right when I looked up, you know, it's not like he's some blazer.He ran like a low 4-5. He's not to be 6-1, 200 pounds. But yeah, I mean, I listen, I'm just, I'm out on the Patriots ORG. There's not many players that they could have taken that would have made me feel really goodunless somehow they got Caleb Williams. And I'm a, you know, for 20 years, I'm a Fresno State guy. We had a lot of guys on that team playoff. I've rooted for the Patriots ORG. I'm Velocet PERSON guy,but I think it's going to be a rough couple years. I think it's going to be really, really ugly. And this is a hard situation for these developmental quarterbacks to get thrown into. I mean, look at Thor PERSON's guy, gets to just ease in in Minnesota, right? for these developmental quarterbacks to get thrown into. I mean, look at Thor PERSON's guy,gets to just ease in in Minnesota ORG, right? Even Bo Nix PERSON, his head coach might be a little crazy, but is also the play caller and has a ton of experience, right? I mean, you look at Brock Purdy, having Kyle PERSON, whoever plays for Sean PERSON, it's such an easier landing spot.You have this head coach who's a defensive guy, young guy, a lot of moving parts. He has nothing to do with the offense. So they're really tied to Van Pelt who probably got a raw deal. Deshaun PERSON wanted him out or whatever. Because I thought he did a pretty good job with Joe Flacco PERSON.

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But still, I think it's going to be their personnel, their personnel sting. John PERSON, the question I guess is this. And this is something that, you know, I think Patriot fans have been frustrated with the last few years of the Belichick PERSON regime. And now it seems to be carrying over. We thought it might be different this year. They didn't trade back. They took the third pick, which was Drake May PERSON, the quarterback.So, so far, so good. But here we're in another situation where you could have had this guy at, was it, 68 that they pick again, right? theoretically. You probably, you might have been able to wait and get him there if you liked him and taken something else here. Isn't that the point here where the teams in the NFL like the Philadelphia Eagles ORG and theBaltimore Ravens who continue to crush life every single year in these drafts who don't necessarily have high picks? Every year they do the same thing, which is they take the talent on the board where it's appropriate and then they still stash those guys that they like, those prospects that they think are going to pop, and they get them too. Why can't other teams follow along this same suit? And why is it teams like the Patriot ORG specifically that continue to think they are smarter than everybody else in the

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room? Well, I think a lot of teams, and I don't, you know, Jonathan Kraft PERSON clearly has his hands all over this. Their coaches get really involved. And the one thing coaches do not care at all about is value. I want this player and I want them now. I want this player and I want them now. And I think when that happens, I think that's where you see a lot of these picks, you know, once you get past the third round, who cares, right? But in the top, like you said, top 75 picks, getting a guy, drafting a guy at 45 when you could have had them at 70 is pretty devastating when you could have had two players instead of one with that same guy.And I think the coaches have a very, very strong arm. It's one thing with the quarterback. Honestly, I thought with the Patriots ORG and people might have thought it was nuts, and I understand the owner wouldn't want to do this, kind of punted on this year, trade back, accumulate a ton of picks, and just draft sweet players.But who's to say if they had made the Drake May PERSON trade, let's say with the Giants gone from three to six, added some second and third round picks or whatever, that they would have not just taken these players anyway, so it might have been a moot point, right?

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More picks doesn't make you better with some organizations. Just ask the Carolina Panthers ORG. Just ask the Panthers ORG how that works. And that's what a general manager is for. The discipline to say, hey, coach, yeah, you love that guy. Don't worry, we have a plan for that.Thor PERSON, you've been so patient, which I know is not your MO.

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So let's get to you and your take on Polk PERSON there.

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I just want to make sure. See, this is the thing. Thor PERSON doesn't have a lot of people up to his cabin in the woods. I'm much more of an Italian NORP host. I like to have everybody over for big Sunday dinner. So you got to give the other people,some new folks, some time to chat here. So give us, we have the Titan selection coming up in just a moment here. Thor, give us your take on Polk PERSON here. What went wrong?

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Yeah, with two Patriots ORG homers in here. Let me give you the hospitality that I show in Minnesota ORG. What a reach, what an egregious reach by the New England Patriots ORG. Jalen Polk PERSON is a mirage that was created by Jalen McMillan in September injury last year. It very much like Jalen Hyatt the year before when Cedric Tillman went down in September.Let me give you guys some stats. In the 20 games the last two years where Jail McMillan and Jalen Polk PERSON were on the same field together, healthy and active and played the entire game together. Jalen McMillan, 124 catches for 1,657 yards, 14 touchdowns. Jalen Polk, 68 catches, 1,10 yards, 9 touchdowns. Every time Jailen McMillan was healthy playing the whole game, he was Washington ORG's secondoption behind Roma Dunesway, Jalen Polk was the clear wide receiver three and distant wide receiver three. When McMillan comes back the end of last season in November from the injury that he struggled with, you know, throughout the fall last season, this was during the heart of that college football playoff run that Washington ORG had. Of course, they end up reaching the college football national championship against Michigan ORG.What do you think happened with Jalen Polk PERSON then? He went back on the milk carton where he was before. There was two of the games in the last five or six where Polk PERSON plays the entire game. He's healthy, of course, plays a full game. He had zero catches in two of those games. Again, the heart of the college football play, you know, during that whole thing,in this awesome passing offense where Michael Pennix, Terry Fontenow's PERSON boy, threw for 5,000 yards last year, and Polk had zero catches in two of those games. I don't know what you're doing there. And the projection going forward, I think he's a slide. He did play on the outside there in that offense. I think he has to play slot at the next level. The explosion, the speed, stuff like that, that is not his forte. The thing that that he leads with, he has awesome hands. I will give him that. But I think he has tobe a slot at the next level. It's just an efficiency thing. If I'm putting someone in the slot, I want someone that can stretch the field. That is not Jalen Polk PERSON. I think that's an egregious use of an early second round pick, particularly in this receiving class where you had, still on the board, you had Troy Franklin, Roman Wilson, Javon Baker, Adonnie Mitchell PERSON. I would have taken Jaila McMillan PERSON above him,his teammate, who's going to go two rounds later. For me, a mistake, especially Vlad McConkey was available, and you traded down three slots and then take Polk PERSON.I don't know what they're doing here.

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The Panthers ORG have picked up for a running back.

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Jonathan Brooks PERSON,

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the first running back off.

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So the Texas GPE boy with the ACL that's healing, Thor, let's go through this one.

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So he has got good vision.

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He is an elusive player. He is six foot and changed to 16 running backs from Texas GPE, certainly a storied history. So what is it we should be excited about with Jonathan Brooks or did Carolina ORG put the cart before the horse yet again here and take somebody off potential a little too soon?

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Yeah, and don't go back to the tape on my take of the tickets I bought on RV1 just a little bit ago.

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I don't know what you're talking about.

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Never happened.

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That's a good host right there.

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If I'm Carolina ORG, I don't think that this is the position I'm hitting right here.

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I realize that their running back room is not good, but I think I would have waited around.

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If you're the Panthers ORG, why are you leading the dance on this? They're obviously one of the teams that likes Jonathan Brooks PERSON mentioned before, and Joe PERSON just did in the setup of him coming off the knee injury. But I brought up the context before. The entirety of Jonathan Brooks' evaluation comes off of 10 games. He did look good in those 10 games,but we did not get the athletic testing profile on him before that earlier in his career, stuck behind Bejohn and Roshan PERSON. I like the agility and the make you mix with him. He has good contact balance as well, the acceleration, but lacks the long speed in the passing game, not quite as good with him. I like Trey Benson PERSON more.That's a more dynamic back to me that we have seen more tackle breaking utility with and has proven it for longer. And you can do more stuff with him in the the game, also a better pass blocker. So for me, I wouldn't, you know, especially here at 46 leading the dance, I think I would have let it come to me a little bit more if you're a talent bereft roster like the Carolina Panthers ORG.

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Panthers ORG are going to panther after all.

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Derek Brown, if Brooks PERSON did not have injury concerns,

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would that change your mind here about him as a prospect? I feel like it's still early to select him,

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but I also will say the Carolina ORG, I tweeted this out a few, like I think about two weeks ago. I said the Carolina Panthers ORG are the sneaky spot for running back to land. And because people look at their depth chart and they say, but you got Chubber Hubbard PERSON there, but you got Miles Sanders there. That doesn't matter at all. Chuba Hubbard PERSON is an unrestricted free agent after this year. Miles Sanders can be cut next year and they could save. They'll beon the hook for $2.9 million in dead cap. So what do we know about Canales PERSON? His multiple stops last year in Tampa Bay leaned on Rashad White PERSON. He wants a guy that they can run their entire rushing offense through. And I'm not telling you Brooks PERSON is that guy out of the gate. But also Thor PERSON talked about his prospect profile. We need to also mention the fact that in six of the 10 full games he played atTexas, he had at least 20 carries. So in the small sample, the ability to handle volume. Now, I know he did eventually get hurt and things like that so you can make the case of, well, did he really prove that he can handle volume? But he did have the volume in the games where he was healthy. Carolina ORG has been one of these teams that I was like, okay, I really think they're going to go running back in this draft because this coaching staff is not beholden to anybody on that depth chart. None of those guys in that room,even the GM gave the contract to Miles Sanders PERSON. None of them drafted Chuba Hubbard PERSON. So while Jonathan Brooks PERSON might be slow off the blocks from coming off the injury, I think once he's up to speed and he's 100% good or not and we can debate the pick, I think he's going to be the bell cow in Carolina ORG.

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For sure.

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Right?

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I can tell you this.

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Derek, I think Brooks PERSON is a guy that I will be drafting and redraft leagues and I'll tell you why. Because you know my evaluation of the running back position lately, which is there's a handful of guys that I like, and after that, forget it. And it's not zero RB. It's just I'm not taking guys at the cost where there's still valuable wide receiver,tight end or quarterback talent on the board. So Brooks PERSON, to me, is one of these perfect guys that you could throw some darts on late. If things are going well with health reports and things like that, at some point, you do think is going to get an opportunity because with the rookie running backs, I'm looking at the last six weeks of this season, not the first six.I'll find some guys early on. Injuries happen. I'll find guys off the waiver wire.

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I could see myself looking at Brooks PERSON, especially since they were so aggressive with him here that that tells me they are going to find a spot for him sooner than later to get some opportunities again, as long as the health is trending in the right direction.

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So to your point, Joey, from the standpoint, I could see myself having a fair amount of shares of in redraft.

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Go ahead, Dee PERSON.

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Yeah, I agree with you. And to your point, we also need to talk about the landing spot that has been discussed and discussed and discussed about Jonathan Brooks PERSON, because whether you want to talk about the coaching staff, what are you going to talk about the medical team and stuff like that, the Dallas Cowboys. ending spot that has been discussed and discussed and discussed about Jonathan Brooks PERSON because whether you want to talk about the coaching staff, what are you going to talk about the medical team and stuff like that, the Dallas Cowboys. Dallas Cowboys are sitting at 56th in this round. So this could easily be Carolina ORG got on the phones and said, could we trade back or they're just worriedthat Dallas was maybe going to pull a Jerry Jones type of move and move up for Jonathan Brooks PERSON. So they felt like they probably had to take him here.

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The Colts ORG are back on the clock here and the pick is in. They are going to take a wide receiver. And it is A.D. Mitchell at 52. That'll put the commanders now theoretically on the clock, barring another trade this evening. So let's go back to Russell Brown PERSON.Then we'll get Thor PERSON's take on this. Russell, the Indianapolis Colts take a wide receiver that Thor PERSON has, let's go back to Russell Brown and then we'll get Thor's take on this. Russell, the Indianapolis Colts take a wide receiver that Thor has, let's just say, taken a few shots at this evening on Friday night. But let's hear a different perhaps point of view when it comes to Mitchell PERSON, the wide receiver who has fallen a lot farther than some people might have thought he would. What's your take on the Colts getting Mitchell here at 52?

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Yeah, I'll be on the other side of the coin here, where Thor is always upset about A.D. Mitchell PERSON, I'll think a little bit differently here. He was my 22nd rank player. I thought, you know, there was some first round value with him. He did earn a second round grade for me.And I ultimately thought he was going to go somewhere in the second round tonight just because of some of the character stuff that we had heard. And really, you look at his tape. There's just those lapses where there's no production, no route running happening. The guy doesn't look like he's interested in being on the field. But when you look at him, when he's on the field and doing what he's supposed to be doing it, six foot two, 20, 205 pounds, running a 43434 with a 39 and a half inch vertical. There's so much to be desired there.And it feels like whenever you watch Georgia or Texas GPE in those big games, in a big moment, they needed a big catch. They turned to A.D. Mitchell PERSON. So the hope here is that he goes to the Colts ORG and he's one of those guys that can find some type of role with Josh Downs, Alec Pierce, you know, Anthony Richardson PERSON, Michael Pittman PERSON, those guys. I think it's a good fit. Just if he can keep his head on straight,he can certainly be one of the better receivers from this draft class. But from a fantasy standpoint,

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Russell, you have Anthony Richardson PERSON is going to run the football. You also have, obviously, Jonathan Taylor there. You have a number one wide receiver with a franchise and Michael Pittman. What's left here for Mitchell PERSON besides the occasional home run? Does that hurt his dynasty stock for you? Or you think this is a player that over time, and perhaps over the evolution of Anthony Richardson, we might get the best out of Mitchell PERSON?

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I think it really depends on when you're going to draft him, right? Like in your dynasty leagues. I wouldn't say take him in the first round or anything like that. But depending on where you get him, there could be some value there. I think at the end of the day, he can certainly carve out that number two wide receiver rule because I know there is quite a few miles to feed there.But I think there's still some things left to be seen with Josh Downs, Alec Pierce PERSON, and those guys being a little bit more consistent in the NFL, where if A.D. Mitchell PERSON, again, if he keeps his head on straight, he could easily be a 55 to 65 catch guy in this offense. So I'm very intrigued with this pick. I think it's a good pick, especially considering where they got him compared to, you know, on my board. So I think it's a good fit and I think it's a good pick.

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Erickson, let's get some fancy perspective here on A.D. Mitchell PERSON here in this selection. So I'm going to give you another home run hitting kind of wide receiver at 60 overall Rashid Shaheed PERSON right now is on the board. Would you take Shaheed or would you take Mitchell PERSON in redraft leagues?

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I'm going to take Shaheed. I mean, the guy's already done. Like, the thing with A.D. Mitchell and and Russell PERSON hit on this is he's going to have big games. Like, he's done that. Like, he's had games in big spots where he's put up major production. And he'll probably have moments of that in the NFL, especially in an offense like with anything Richardson with Shane Steichen PERSON, dialing it up. But will the consistency be there? I knowI comp him to DJ Shark PERSON. I know that's what Thor's is to DJ Shark. And what did DJ chart done in his entire NFL career except for that one year? Just like, he splashed weeks. Like here and there. Oh, DJ Shark caught a bomb like touchdown. Great. And then the next week, he doesn't do anything. Like that's kind of what I think the AD Mitchell treatment is going to be this year, next year. I just don't think we're ever going to see necessarily the consistency from him,especially with Anthony Richardson PERSON. So we didn't see a lot of passing from him last year. So how good is that going to be? I think it's great for the Colts ORG. I think that he's an upgrade over Alip PERSON. I think the Alec Pierce PERSON experiment has kind of run its course.I think they're ready to kind of move off of Alic Pierce PERSON and get a better player in that spot, someone that can stretch the field. But for me, I think this is a major win for Michael Pittman PERSON. I was really high on Pittman PERSON. I think this means he's just going to continue to see like really high target chair in this offense or Mitchell PERSON's kind of opened things up for him underneath, just continueto be fed targets from Anthony Richardson PERSON. So I think real life fit, it makes a lot of sense. I know that the Colts were interested in Xavier Worthy PERSON. So they had to wait another round. They get the other Texas GPE receiver.

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Again, another one guy that has speed that he can offer. So I think it's a really good life. A real life fit that fits well.

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But Mitchell PERSON, I think he's going to leave you wanting more. Again, it kind of reminds you also, too, of Cadarius Tony PERSON a little bit, where Cadarius Tony had that one game against Dallas ORG where he just went nuclear and then you could just sell him for anything.

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Like, if you draft AD Mitchell PERSON, keep that in mind after he has that massive game, maybe we want to just put him all the trade block.

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All right.

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What about Josh Downsend PERSON on this offense?

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Where does this leave him this election?

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I think that it leads him in a good position to see more volume because I think that's

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kind of how he wins.

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You know, he is the primary slot receiver in this offense. So Mitchell's more of the splash by guy where I think the Downs PERSON thing is more about just how much passing volume is going to be in the offense, like how much throwing is she and second going to allow Anthony Richardson PERSON. So I think that's how Josh Down PERSON succeeds. And it's unfortunate for him because Michael Pittman PERSON is also kind of like another possession receiver in that offense.So if he's always playing second fiddle to Pittman PERSON, I'm not necessarily sure how much production downs can really hit in this offense. All right.

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The commanders make a selection here. They select a tight end. Ben Sinat at 53. The Browns ORG are now on the clock. The commanders, dare I say it, Russell PERSON, I think I might agree with you. You're putting it in our little chat here. And it seems like the commanders are having a good draft. Is that safe to say because it feels weird when I say it out loud?

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Yeah. I mean, it does feel like they're having a good draft right now. I mean, to get Ben Sinat here, he was somewhat expected to be the second tight end.

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There was some love for Theo Johnson as well.

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But, you know, they have Jaden Daniels PERSON there and they're trying to build around him. And getting past catchers and getting people that can go in and make plays, that's what it's all about, right? Like building around your quarterback. And I think when you look at Ben Sinat PERSON, I'm late to the party on Ben Sinat PERSON, but he was one of those guys that I was like,man, this guy's a San Francisco 49er all day long. He's going to go right into that role, play Hback, run after the catch. And this is just one of those where I think it's just a great fit. And I love what they've done up to this point. If I'm a commander's fan and you look at an NFC East LOC that is very winnable with the DallasCowboys and the New York Giants and the Philadelphia Eagles, you add Mike Sanders PERSON still, Johnny Newton, Jaden Daniels, now Ben Sinat PERSON. I think this is a great pick. And this is one of those things where they're putting some pieces around Dan Quinn PERSON to be very successful for head coach.

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Yeah, they are. And Dan Quinn PERSON, I think is a, I think Dan Quinn is a good football coach. Yeah. He has had, you know, I think everybody is better the second time around as a head coach. Bill Belichick PERSON was, for goodness sake. Most of them are.They get that second shot at things. So I think it's going to be fun for Dan Quinn PERSON here. And yes, and not from Kansas State ORG. That is the selection. Andrew PERSON tight ends in this class. It's Brock Bowers PERSON and everybody else by a wide margin.But we're looking long term of projectability. Do you think Sonat PERSON is somebody that is going to be eventually a fantasy asset?

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Well, he's in one of the better landing spots for a tight end. They have Zacherts PERSON. How old is Zacharyts PERSON now? 147. Exactly. So Ben Sinat, I How old is Zach Ritz PERSON now? Like, uh,

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147. Exactly. So Ben Sannat PERSON, I think has a chance to at least like, again, we're gonna,Cliff Kingsbury PERSON loves arts. He played Erds over Trey McBride famously with the Arizona Cardinals ORG. So may take a couple weeks, but eventually Ben Sannot should take over as the tight end one in the commander's offense and attached to Jaden Daniels PERSON. Look,Sanat PERSON, super athletic, very productive. I get Brock Bowers PERSON is the crown jewel of the tight end class, but when you look at the second most productive tight end, overall, it was Ben Sinan PERSON in this class.So he has a lot

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of, there's a lot to like about him. So getting second round draft capital is great for a tight end. This is similar to where we saw Mayor in La Porto go at the top of the second round. So, yeah, this is a commander's like new management.What do you know? Okay.

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That's, you thought with new management with the Patriots ORG, things would go better, but they have not. You know what? Thor PERSON is taking a little break here. So we can ask Russell PERSON this question. Russell, what the hell happened with the Patriots at the top of this draft here in the second round?What the hell is going on? Any insight with Polk that you could share that might make Erickson and myself sleep better tonight?

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Yeah, look, I don't know why there's so much hate with Jalen Polk PERSON.

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I mean, I'm going to be honest because I don't hate Polk PERSON.

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I just hate the fact that they took him ahead of other guys like Ladd McConkey PERSON could

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have been there. That's my problem.

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I understand and I get that. But at the same time, it's like the board fell the way it did, whether they traded out of that spot or not. It's, you know, when you look at when they traded back and then you've got a receiver staring you in the face, like I don't know what other receiver they would have taken that would have made anybody happier. Is it Roman Wilson PERSON?Is it somebody else? Like, if you have a preference, cool, but it's clear that the Patriots ORG have a preference for a type of receiver that they're looking for. And I think Polk PERSON's a pretty versatile player that can align inside, outside. He was that motion man and that offense at times. So he's going to force rotations in the secondary,which is going to free up, you know, Juju Smith-Schuster to Mario Douglas PERSON. It's going to free up a couple of different players in that offense. And I like what he does on 50-50 balls. He high points to football. He makes the proper adjustments.He's physically can withstand physicality at the catch point, something that I think Troy Franklin might struggle with at the next level. So I like Jalen Polk as a number two, number three receiver. I don't think you're drafting them to be your true number one receiver. And I don't know if they need to have a true number one receiver right at this very moment, because let's be honest.I mean, they picked third overall wide receiver was pretty top heavy, top heavy with the first three wide receivers. And then you kind of start to see a little bit of a drop off. Not saying Ladd McConkey and Keon Coleman PERSON and those guys won't be good. But I do feel like we do this every year with wide receivers, not saying specifically you guys, just we as fans and draft people, you look back at 2021. You look at that wide receiver class.If you go to the middle rounds, there were a lot of guys that I was pounding the table for that aren't even in the league anymore. So we kind of do this to ourselves. I think Jalen Polk's a fine fit for New England. And if Drake May PERSON is anything that we think he's going to be as a quarterback, it shouldn't matter what the receiver is.

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What do you think Drake May PERSON is going to be?

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Because that's a fun take, too.

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I'd love to hear your thoughts on Drake May and also your thoughts on the other quarterbacks that went not in one and two overall.

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Well, I'll keep my thoughts on Michael Pennings PERSON for maybe a little bit later.

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For the after dark version of the show. Exactly. We'll get back to Pac-12 after dark talking

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about Michael Pennix. But yeah you know Drake PERSON may he's so intriguing

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natural arm talent can throw from different arm angles I think he's got to work on definitely

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the lower body mechanics his footwork is so sporadic there were a lot of times where he would try

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to drive a throw and he would pick up his front foot and it was just more like a baseball motion

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then there's times where he's not resetting his feet and then he kind of drifts in and out of the pocket. And I think that'll work at times, but it will also get him in trouble. My biggest concern with him was he would leave the pocket prematurely. There were times that no routes were developing downfield. And it was not a design quarterback draw or quarterback run. He just simply hit panic mode.But I think when you look at the pro comparisons of like Justin Herbert meeting Josh Allen, that's the type of player he can be. They've got to build this thing around him. They're clearly trying to do that with the addition of Jalen Polk PERSON. I would love to see them get themselves a left tackle. I don't like the thought of Connor McDermott PERSON in that offense as you're starting left tackle right now. But I think the future is bright if they continue to piece things around him. What's up?

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Well, the jets have started the third round and they've started it with a wide receiver.

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Malachi Corley at 65, Thor PERSON, I had to scroll on your, on your board there to find him,

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145. So clearly there is a sickness in the AFC east and it's catching the Patriots ORG at it and now they've sneezed and they've given it

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to the jets. Yeah, I you know the way that I did I just disagree with me. I knew that Malachi Corley was going to go around here. That's where everyone else rang some. My take on Malachi Corley though is he's not a wide receiver. He reminds me so much of Amari Rogers PERSON, a guy who his process argued with everyone about and happened to be right about that one. We'll find out if I am about Malachi Corley as well. But it's the same thing of a guy who is a running back playing slot receiver that doesn't run routes. Like all of the production for Malachi, Malachi Corley is the bow nicks of wide receiverprospects. All of, he has a lot of-

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T-shirt.

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He has a lot of catches, but all they are, it's the dump-hoss behind the line of scrimmage. The Olet screen passes. In the Western Kentucky air raid offense that Clay Hilton PERSON runs there, the running game, the function of that, it's the slot receiver that Malachi Corley plays where you just immediately throw him the ball and then you have the couple receivers in front that are blockingfor him. The thing that he is good at is breaking tackles. He's very good at that and you see the piling up with the broken tackles. But they all come off these spoon-fed touches to him behind the line of scrimmage. You don't see Malachi Corley running routes ever. He just doesn't do it. All of his, you know, again, the receptions with that. A couple of times, you know, he won down the, or not really one down the field.When he went down the field, the 20-plus yard receptions, I need to pull up how many he had. It was very, very few. But on the few that he did, the go routes that he did, he just run as fast as he could down the field. And then he just do like an unconvincing like head deke. And then like if the ball happened to, you know, if they threw it to him and he was open down there, might catch the ball or whatever. But so little of his utility was there, it was all the dump it off to him short and then break the tackles. He was a runningback earlier in his career shifted to that position after going to WKU ORG as a cornerback. I don't see a wide receiver in Malachi Corley. It's not something that typically translates to the NFL at that position. People called him the Debo Samuel PERSON this class. That is apocryphal. He is nothing like Debo Samuel PERSON. Debo Samuel is a wide receiver. Malachi Corley is not, at least not yet. They will be setting him up to fail if they try to send him out with a full route tree next year. He won't be able to do it.

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I'm going to have to look up that word. In the meantime, an actual running back goes off the board. The Arizona Cardinal select Tray Benson from Florida State ORG.

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So you're right. There it is. Very exciting here. The Cardinals, we said it yesterday, Thor PERSON. It feels like maybe a shift in the earth a little bit for this organization where we've got their

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quarterback they've committed. They had a really good night one. They took a generational town at wide receiver. Now you've got a running back to go with him. Again, this running back class a little bit on that lower scale. But there's no denying that Trey Benson PERSON was a productive player. There's no denying that he's got the skill sets there. So what's your take on not only Benson PERSON, but also now more importantly, his landing spot.And then Erickson PERSON, I want to get your take on him and break that down because now it's Murray, Connor, Benson, Marvin Harrison, and Trey McBride. That looks like an offense to me, Thor PERSON. Yeah, this guy is going to be the bell call

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in year one for the Cardinals. This is the dude right here. He started his career at Oregon ORG, had a devastating injury right away towards ACL MCL lateral meniscus medial meniscus hamstring as a freshman. It's a reason why he didn't play as a sophomore and then led to his transfer to Florida State ORG. It was like, what's going to become of this guy's career? But as a junior, so he comes back from that. As a junior, he breaks the PFF ORG record for force, miss tackle rate. Their charting record became the only player that season to go over 50% in that.So he's a broken tackle guy when he gets out to the second level. And once he does that, once he's able to break the tackle, get out into the open field, hits the jets. And he has the four three wheels, which he proved in Indianapolis at the NFL Combine. I love that aspect of his game. Doesn't have the joystick agility, but he has the one cut thing.So he has that violent cut. And then once it's the arm tackle off angle attempt, those are the tackles that he breaks. You're not taking that guy down unless it's the flush tackle attempt or unless it's multiple guys. Like I said, once he gets out into open grass, with the cut, sometimes he'll get out into open grass, then it's the Jets ORG. The other thing with him, he played in the Mike Norville offense at Florida State. Recall Antonio Gibson, recall the other multi-dimensional guys that he had at Memphis ORG,the way that he liked to move him around, play him in the slot, the way that he used those guys in the passing game. Same thing he did with Trey Benson PERSON. So you would see him in the slot. Sometimes they throw it to him out there, have the blockers in front of him. The other thing I liked about his receiving utility, the thing in the play action game, Florida State loved to do this. Play action, Bentso PERSON was really good at selling it,then working his way through the garbage around the line of scrimmage, quickly getting around it, making himself available to the quarterback. He got a lot of targets doing that. The other thing, he's a good pass blocker. A lot of running backs in this class, not only are they not, they literally can't do it. You can't even leave them on the field. So he will be able to stay on the field all three downs in the NFL ORG. At Florida State, the one nitpick I have about Norbell's usage, you saw this last year, well, going back years with him. He likes to use the multiple running back.So that was the reason why Trey Benson's PERSON usage got a little bit wonky, even though he was clearly their best running back. In the NFL, I think it's going to be a three-down thing in Arizona GPE in particular.

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So Benson's comp, according to Thor, is to Marco Murray PERSON.

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That's a pretty good one. Erickson PERSON, let's talk about that and let's break that down for a moment if we can. Because it feels like, as Thor PERSON was saying, this guy could jump in right away, be the bell cowgow. I know James Connor PERSON's still there, but still James Connor is towards the tail end of his running back career. I think we can all agree on that. So, Erickson, what does this mean here, not just in redraft leagues, but also Dynasty Leagues, this landing spot here for Benson PERSON?

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I mean, it's a really good landing spot because like you said, James Connor PERSON is no spring chicken. Like, this is the last year of his contract. So it's still entirely possible that they just ride James Connor PERSON till the wheels fall off. But that being said, Trey Benson has the skill set to still be efficient and earned touches even alongside James Connor PERSON. So I don't anticipate him totally neutralizing James Connor PERSON unless there's an injury. But that's a big part of James Connor PERSON.Like he plays very physical style of football. So he gets banged up a lot. So I think you could see a tandem between the two earlier in the season. But as we think as things had to trickle down, you could see Benson kind of taking over this back wheel, especially if there's James Connor PERSON injury. The next year, I mean, it's all wheels up because James Connor PERSON is going to be a free agent. So it would definitely be Trey Benson's backfield and Marvin Harrison, Kyler Murray PERSON.Like, you're excited about this Cardinals ORG offense. So for Dynasty and Redraft, this is definitely a slam dunk spot for Trey Benson PERSON.

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Listen, I'm going to say the same thing I said about the last running back selected. I could see myself in 2024 redraft leagues, late rounds, taking shots on Trey Benson PERSON too.

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Just because, look, again, I think this is where the value is. It's in the youth of the position. It's in guys who don't have much in front of them they've got guys that have uh you're towards the end of their contracts or end of their careers those are the guys that you want to invest in late that don't cost you anything because if you can just kind of tread water those first six weeks or play the waiver wire it or take that hero rb and then figure out rb two one of these guys is going to hit uh it could be multiple of them too so benson's anotherone for me that i am certainly going to be looking at the cincinnati bengals uh picking uh now so picks coming in fast and furious tj hushmanzata PERSON uh doing the pick here too which is another

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fun name to say so we've run the gamut of fun names. We had Amagaji with Orororor PERSON. We had, TJ Housmanzada PERSON. And now we have wide receiver.

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Germain Burton from Alabama GPE. About to get excited. D. Bro, get hyped.

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Let's go.

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Oh, baby.

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I'm so here for this.

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Why should we be hyped about this young man now being selected by the Cincinnati Bengals ORG?

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And does it mean

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that T. Higgins could be on the move potentially, Derek Brown PERSON? I will not rule that out.

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Jermaine Burton PERSON is a freaking stud, man. And people have talked about him the entire time. And I get it.

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We have heard in this process about Jermaine Burton PERSON possibly falling down draft boards because of all field

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concerns. If you take that out of the equation,

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Germain Burton should have been gone in the second round.

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I understand people will pigeonhole him as a deep threat only because of how Alabama

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used him.

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I adamantly disagree with that.

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Bama ORG used him in a terrible way. He is a stud. Guys of triple threat as far as three levels. Underrated route runner. And this is not me throwing shade at Milro PERSON. If he could hit the broadside of a freaking barn,Jermaine Burton would have had a monster season last year at Alabama GPE. I freaking love this pick. He's going to be an awesome value in Dynasty Rookie Drafts.

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That was you not throwing trade at Mill Row FAC?

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Oh, I could get worse. Yes.

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Well, honestly, I'm here for it if you want to get worse.

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I thought he was pretty underwhelming.

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He was.

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Let's call it like it is.

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I mean, how many times have we sat here in our lifetimes?

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And it hasn't been Alabama GPE guy, Alabama guy. And, you know, then we have that little Georgia ORG guy, Georgia guy run. And now it's like, Michigan ORG guys, Michigan guys.

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Like, it's not quite the same thing that we're used to. We're used to seeing the Alabama GPE factory of guys. So this is sort of interesting here that Burton PERSON makes his way to this spot. Now, it's becoming a crowded room and wide receivers. So I have to believe, Derek, that a T. Higgins PERSON deal could be imminent here. And it's funny because we have not gotten the IUC ORG deal that we thought we were going to.Yeah, we haven't gotten T. Higgins PERSON. We don't know what's going on. So maybe tonight there will be some activity into tomorrow morning. But certainly intriguing. I want your take, Thor on Burton, though, because look, whenever you get a wide receiver who lands with a premium quarterback, and Joe Burrow PERSON is a premium quarterback in the league, he's an MVP caliber talent, you have to stand up and take notice. So what sort of compliment is he potentially to a Jamar Chase PERSON?Because Chase is clearly the alpha, but can he be the Omega? Can he be what Higgins PERSON was if Higgins is indeed speculation, potentially him moving on from the Bengals ORG?

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If he keeps his head screwed on straight, I mean, that's what it comes down to with Jermaine Burton PERSON. The off-the-field stuff is the thing that concerns you. We've heard about that throughout the process. You know, what I had in my write-up about that, I said, I had a full paragraph about it. And so I put in there, I said, and I hesitate to even include this, but it's a contextualfair warning. I've heard multiple NFL teams do not have Burton PERSON on their draft boards over character concerns. I reached out to an NFL agent who pursued Burton last year about that and got the following response. Not surprised. Burton faced intense public criticism after Alabama's 22. Last second lost to Tennessee ORG after cameras appeared to catch him, taking swipes at two different crowdstorming Tennessee or Valls PERSON fans, one of them a female as he walked out the field.Dane Bruegler PERSON spoke to this on a recent episode of the athletic football show. And this is Bruegler PERSON, quote, the talent's there. It's a matter of consistency on and off the field. He's been to six schools in eight years. As one NFL scout put it, he was on the crap list of the coaches of both Georgia and Alabama GPE. He has all the talent that you would want.He does. But it's another guy that you would want. He does. But it's another guy that Kirby Smart PERSON did not mind when he walked out the door. Didn't care at all. In fact, he might have told Jermaine Burton PERSON to go ahead and go. Germain Burton PERSON was, and this might speak to some of this stuff, was like, all right, I'm going to go to your biggest rival and I'm going to beat you.And last year he did in the SEC ORG title game. And it was the reason that Georgia did not have the shot to three p like I was talking about before. And to DeBrow PERSON's point about the usage and the fact that we now moving to the on the field stuff, Jermaine Burton has all the physical, certainly the athletic profile, six foot, 196 pounds, 95th percentile athlete, but he also has the skills on the field to win at all three levels.But last year, because the very eloquent way that DeBrow talked about, Jalen Milrose's PERSON game in the pocket, would leverage the downtown game of Jermaine Burton's PERSON on field utility. That was almost all the way he was used, 20.2a dot for Germaine Burton last year because that's what Jalen Milrow PERSON is. He is the scrambler or he is throwing it deep the rest of this stuff he struggles with. That 20.2A.D. led the class.But the route running with the athleticism, he's going to be able to win at the other levels. It just comes down to can Germain Burton PERSON ingratiate himself with his teammates, not be grading in terms of that, the off-field stuff in the locker room. Will that stuff jive? Because if it does on the field, he has all the talent in the world.

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Thor PERSON, you not tell you.

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Go ahead, go ahead, Joe PERSON. Well, I just want to say, put a round

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on him, D, D bro, because I think this is an important conversation

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in Dynasty ORG rookie drafts. Like,

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is this a guy that you take in the fourth round and you wait on and say, okay, I'm going to make an investment or does he not even fall that far potentially in this?

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He doesn't fall that far. Nope.

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He doesn't fall that far. I'm pulling up my rankings right now. In Superflex rankings, I've got Jermaine Burton as, I got him as 20th overall.

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So I had him as my wife.

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Well, that was before this landing spot. I had right. Now with the landing spot, can he leapfrog somewhere else? I mean,

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I'm keeping him around where I'm at because the only got, I mean, the guys I got above him, well, considering we still have Javon Baker PERSON out there, we still have Troy Franklin where they land.I think if anything, Germain Burton PERSON is going to go up for me. And Thor PERSON talked about it. If, if the on,ain Burton is going to go up for me. And Thor PERSON talked about it. If he is focused and can put all of the off-field stuff behind him, the talent is absolutely there. Thor PERSON and I have talked about him in spades.Speaking of phone calls, if it wasn't for that, like I said, I've got, I had a round two grade on Jermaine Burton PERSON just based off of the freaking talent. And if anybody who pushes back,go watch the game against LSU this past season. And people think I'm hating on Milrose PERSON so much. Jermaine Burton PERSON would have put up a nasty, ridiculous, he was burning the LSU corners for days on double moves and he's running down the sideline wide open and he gets to see the ball go over his head like well guess what so much

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for that 60-yard completion more picks are in after the bengal selected Jermaine Burton at 80 the

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Seahawks took offensive guard Christian Hayes at 81 and the Cardinals took a tight end which is sort of interesting here tip Reiman at 82 Thor can you walk me through tip Ryman here and why this might be for a team that's already got one of the right young stars at the position of tight end and Trey McBride this makes very little sense to me well as you're just talking as a blocking tight end and he's an extraordinary blocker.

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That card off pick was bizarre, especially for a team that I thought was having a pretty good draft up until then.

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You said the word tight end.

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There was like six names that came into my head.

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That was not one of the six.

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I don't really know what they're doing.

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That to me, I think, is just an athletic traits shot in the dark. I watch that kid's tape. He's not a good receiver. I don't know what else to say. You know, you can block with him a little bit in terms of like the size. He's almost 6'5, 271.And to the point of why they're drafting him here, it's because of the 99th percentile RAS. That's the reason why they're doing it here, it's because of the 99th percentile RAS. That's the reason why they're doing it at that size, 46, 440. And, you know, like I said, but the rest of it,I was not, his tape, I did not, I did not love. So,

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they just drafted. Go ahead,

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go ahead, Joey. Too frustrated. Just the tip.

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It's just the tip.

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Oh, God. Let's get Russell tip. Let's get Russell Brown PERSON.

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Let's get Russell Brown PERSON in for a moment.

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I want to get your take on the next election year of the Rams ORG because the Rams have taken a running back.

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It's Blake Corum at 83.

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So Russell Brown PERSON.

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Jim Harbaugh PERSON is so ticked right now.

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Your name's not Russell Brown PERSON.

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It's Thorneisdra PERSON.

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It's Russell PERSON's turn.

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Russell Brown. You give me your take here on Blake Corum PERSON, another running back off the board.

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Here for the Rams ORG, your thoughts and what it means for fantasy.

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Well, I mean, this is the player that made J.J. McCarthy look so good, Thor PERSON.

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Blake Corum, no, 54th-ranked player on my board.

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Second round pick as far as evaluation. I think he was the top back in this class. Ran a 453.40. That's okay. Long speed is not his game. He's a downhill runner, always able to run forward, fall forward, get that short yardage. He runs with great contact balance, consistently running through that initial contact. Really good lateral movement for a player, his size. And he's just got great vision. He changes direction so well.I know that long speed will get brought up a lot. I know limited explosiveness is there. And I know he's going to be one of those guys that might be a little boring for some, but he just reminds me so much of David Montgomery. And I think he goes to a great situation with the Rams ORG where they show that they want to commit to running the football last year.And I think that they can split those duties in that backfield pretty well. So I like this pick a lot for the Los Angeles Rams. 5-7-205. What do you make of the size here of Blake Corum PERSON? I actually like running backs to be a little bit smaller. For example, Tray Benson PERSON, fun player, but being over six foot tall, that's always a little concerning. Like, I compare Trey Benson more so to T.J. Blake Corum PERSON, I think that smaller compact frame, that downhill running style can translate to more success as far as getting those yards, you know, yards per carry and running between the tackle. So I like Blake Corum PERSON a little bit

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more than probably the consensus. Andrew Erickson, let's bring you in and talk about Blake Corum PERSON, the latest selection.

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Finally, the Rams ORG took an offensive player.

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Everybody would have thought, Sean McVeigh, oh, he's just going to go ahead and take all the offense. No, lots of discipline there from Sean McVeigh. So, Erickson, your thoughts on Blake Corum, what do you think of the selection of the Michigan running back now at Los Angeles Ram ORG officially?

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I absolutely love it because as bad as my bets have gone today, I had a ticket plus 4,000 on Blake Corn to be drafted by the Los Angeles Rams ORG. So, whew, so that's saving my bacon.

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You hit the big ones. I got to give you that.

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You might miss the small ones, but you swing for the fences and the big ones you got.

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You got a plus 3,000 on Pennix, a plus 4,000, you said on this?

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Yeah, plus 4,000 on Blake Corby PERSON.

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I mean, but that's how you play the NFL ORG draft.

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Like, there are plenty of these plus 200, 500, like that have all flamed out because, again,

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sometimes the chalk hits, but when the odds are there and in value, it's like, I could see the Rams ORG drafting running back. Blake Corm PERSON should be available. The Rams have a bunch of picks in round two and round three and plus 4,000. Sign me up. So it worked out.So happy about that. But I like this fit a lot. I think that Blake Corm offers a very similar skill set to what Cairn Williams PERSON can do. Like I think that if Blake Corm got the volume that Cairn Williams PERSON did, he would be an RB1. Like I really don't think that that's being too overly aggressive with Blake Corm PERSON. It's just a matter of how much volume is a offensive coordinator or head coach goingto load him up with. And he showed at Michigan ORG that he can handle load. So I think that he's a very intriguing handcuff option. I still think Carin Williams PERSON will be the guy, but it's like, okay, well, if Carron goes down, are they going to go right back to him like they did last year? Last year, it was just Ronnie Rivers PERSON. Like, that's who they had astheir backup. And then they brought in, they did the Darrell Henderson PERSON experiment, you know, off the couch. So I think this is a really intriguing spot for the Rams with a guy like Blake Corum PERSON who, who can handle the workload. And the thing that I compared him to when I talked about, he was my RB2. So like Russell PERSON, I think I was higher on him than the consensus because I just felt like he did everything that coaches wanted a running back to do. Like, he's not perfect at everything. Like he's not the most explosive running back, but he just does his job. Like, and he obviouslyhas that instill from what's it up at Michigan under Harbaugh. So I am really intrigued by this for, for the, like, quorum. And obviously very happy that he got drafted by the Rams ORG.

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Well, guess what? Another Michigan ORG guy goes off the board. The Steelers select Roman Wilson at 84. Russell PERSON, let's get to you. Roman Wilson now comp that Thor gave for him is Golden Tate PERSON. That would work out very well for the Steelers ORG here in this situation.So Russell, what do you think about this election here for the Steelers ORG? They took their offensive alignment. They had a need at wide receiver. Some other teams have taken some wild swings at that position. We'll see if they hit or miss. But from most big boards here, this seems like a win for Pittsburgh GPE.What do you think? Completely agree.

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I mean, I'm not a Michigan ORG fan by any means. I live in the state, but I'm a Michigan ORG state guy. I don't know how I get stuck talking about all these Michigan guys.

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Well, when they win the national championship, that happens.

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I know, I know. Five foot 10, 185, ran a 4-3-9. This guy's a burner. He is so efficient over the middle of the field. I mean, he can run those shallow crossers, deep crossers, dig routes, of the field. I mean, he can run those shallow crossers, deep crossers, dig routes, dagger concepts. He provides all that, just a fluid route runner that can beat defenders withhead and shoulder fakes consistently. I love what he can do after the catch. He had a great senior bowl. And there was some thoughts going into today that he would be the 51st pick for the Pittsburgh Steelers ORG. So the factthat they took him 84th overall, that's just great value to me. I think he was a second round type of player. The pacing of his routes could improve a little bit. I think he'll struggle a little bit with the physicality in the NFL ORG. But again, just getting open, that's going to be the name of his game.And this is about getting a number two into that offense with George Pickens PERSON. I think it's a great fit. And also, fun story just about his high school career and the fact that he had to hop on planes and go from one part of the islands in Hawaii to another part. He would get up at 3.30 in the morning just to get to school. And it's like, okay, this guy was really dedicated to his craft and playing for the highschool of St. Louis High School there in Hawaii. So just a great story. And I think it's a great fit in Pittsburgh GPE. What do you think about the Germain Burton PERSON selection there?

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The boys were very excited about that pick for the Bengals ORG. The wide receiver from Alabama GPE, are you equally excited about it?

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Absolutely. I think he goes to a great landing spot. Obviously, we'll see what happens with T. Higgins PERSON. But when you look at Jermaine Burton on my board, third round grade, 80 second overall player. So right exactly where like the value fits, 4, 4, 5 speed. And he's a guy that the explosiveness off the line of scrimmage is some of the best in class. I mean, his 10 yards split was only 1.53 seconds,but he gets 10 yards in the snap of a finger and he can create separation due to that speed. He's going to win in all three levels of the field like Debrose PERSON said. So I like that fit for Jermaine Burton and Cincinnati just as much as I like this one with Roman Wilson in Pittsburgh GPE.

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Roman Wilson to the Pittsburgh Steelers, Andrew Erickson PERSON, let's get your take on this one. So Steelers ORG had a need. They got their wide receiver. What do you make of Roman Wilson now officially in the black and gold? I think that Roman Wilson PERSON will be very efficient.

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The Pittsburgh Steelers just have a very strong track record of successfully drafting receivers in round two and round three of these middle rounds. So mining for value on day two is something the Steelers ORG. It's like it's a good bet to bet on guys that they like because they know what to scout for. So the only concern is, is he, where is he going to get volume in this offense? Like we talked about with Boggs PERSON coming on, they want to run the football, right?And part of the reason why Roman Wilson's PERSON counting stats weren't so great is because he played in a run first offense in Michigan ORG. Like, so again, they saw what he could played in a run first offense in Michigan ORG. Like, so again, they saw what he could do in a run first off it to be really efficient, vertical threat down the field. So the Steelers ORG obviously see that and they're like, oh, this guy can really work in our offense,which is also going to be run dominant. So I think it might be a case of he's a better real life fit, but in terms of fantasy football, like if he's strictly behind George Pickens, they still have Pat Friarmoot PERSON there who's going to be backing up targets underneath, is third in the pecking order also concerning the running backs in the passing game, is that enough for fantasy football?

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So again, as I'm kind of like ranking some of these rookies as they've hit these landing spots between Burton and Wilson, like in this next tier after some of the guys that went yesterday, I'm trying to keep that in mind where not trying to overvalue like real life spot versus, okay, at the end of the day, like they got to score fantasy points. Like who's going to score? And Roman Wilson PERSON, to me, it might be a better real life fit than necessarily for fantasy.

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I don't know if I got your take on this one. Jermaine Burton. So so far, it's three for three. I don't know if I got your take on this one. Jermaine Burton, so so far it's three for three. The boys are all very excited. Do you want to make it a clean sweep here as Burton for the Bengals ORG?

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Yeah, I look, the only thing, hesitance was just the off-the-field stuff.

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And considering that it did not really hinder his draft capital,

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or if it did, and it only resulted him falling into round three, then that's pretty good. So going to Cincinnati, the writing is on the wall that T. Higgins PERSON, whether he's going to be traded this year, it doesn't think he's going to come back at least next year. So they have another answer at wide receiver opposite Jamar Chase. So Burton PERSON, to me, not a player that's going to, again, soak up a ton of volume. But if I'm looking for, okay, I want a deep threat or a vertical thread that can make big plays,I would rather have it in the Bengals offense versus the Steelers ORG offense. Like as you're making comparisons to some of these players being drafted near each other, just think about that, take a step back and be like, yeah, I made like the talent of Jureen Burton or Roman Wilson PERSON, maybe more than Jureen Burton PERSON, but is it by that much where in an offense that's going to throw

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the ball significantly more, okay, it's much easier to see Jermaine Burton's PERSON path to success, especially

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in the long term attached to Joe Burrow versus a guy like Roman Wilson PERSON where he may just be efficient, but doesn't actually translate to a lot of fantasy success. All right.

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Let's get back to Thor PERSON Nystrom, Thor, getting you caught up here. A few picks on the offensive side that I want to get your take on first, Blake Corum PERSON, running back from Michigan, going to the Rams, and then his teammate, Roman Wilson PERSON, going to the Steelers ORG. So you had Corum at 19 to the Rams, and then Wilson at 20 or 84 overall, I should say, total to the Pittsburgh Steelers ORG.Thor, your thoughts on these two selections. Yeah, for the,

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yeah, I made the crack about Jim Harbaugh getting ticked off that McVe did that to him with Corum PERSON. Harbaugh loved Blake Corum PERSON. 2020, Blake Corum was an absolute beast. He had the injury at the end of that season, which if that had not occurred, Blake Corum PERSON would be coming off his rookie season in the NFL ORG right now. He had to go back to school because of that injury. Last season, when he comes back,he was sluggish at the beginning of the season. He played a little bit better at the end of it, but he didn't test very well. And then in the process as well, the things that he is very good at, a lot of them you can't test for in Indianapolis GPE,like the feel, the running with tempo, the vision, different, stuff like that. The agility he showed, that's the athletic trait that he has, bowling ball build. That thing in conjunction with the vision and the feel and the tempo, that's how he gets his yards, right? And then he can get into the second level sometimes categorically lacks the long speed. One of my favorite plays from JJ McCarthy's tape was his true freshman year, Big Ten title game against Iowa, hands a ball at to Blake Corum. Blake Corum gets into the second level, then the third level. JJ McCarthy just sprints past them. And then at the goal line, ends up waiting for Blake Corum PERSON to get there,blocks a guy, and then that gets Coram PERSON into the end zone. But Corum PERSON, you know, good back. The receiving utility, that's one thing that we don't know about. He wasn't used a ton as that at Michigan ORG. But the Rams ORG, we know this. They don't care as much about the testing data that we get during the pre-draft process.So it's not a surprise that they would be attracted to a back like that. He will be a compliment for Kairn Williams PERSON. Karin Williams, a guy who is a very good receiver at Notre Dame ORG. I think you can mix and match those guys. So that's those two guys. And then, of course, his teammate, Roman Wilson PERSON, cool, a little bit of symmetry there with him going off the board right after that.

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And a great value there for the Steelers ORG at an acute position in need. Roman Wilson was number 44 on my board, wide receiver 9, ends up going 84 to the Steelers ORG. I think he gets undersold a bit because of the size, right? Like he's a hair under 511, 185, 85th percentile athlete. He does have the speed. It played in the slot at Michigan ORG,

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and he's going to be a slot in the NFL ORG, but he can win at all three levels. He can win down the field, maybe not in the true contested situations, but he was able to win separation down the field. When he does win the separation down the field,he will track the ball and catch it down the field. Had some explosive plays there. Certainly short and intermediate, intermediate, I think, is where he makes a lot of his money and his hey and his targets in the NFL. I think that's where Russell Wilson will be targeting him a lot next year. They need guys to target the ball to next season in that offense.

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We talked about possibly why not take Marshawn Lloyd there if you're the Cowboys ORG instead.

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Yes.

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Regardless of the arm length, Marshaun Lloyd did go with the very next pick to the Packers ORG.

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And, D. Bro, I don't know if I love this or hate this because Josh Jacobs PERSON is already there. A.J. Dillen PERSON's on this roster, too.

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So explain this one to me, D. Bro PERSON.

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Is this one of these? Well, we'll love it in two years kind of things.

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I'm fine with the pick right now. Looking at Josh Jacobs PERSON, we didn't see the same Josh Jacobs.

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Now, everybody's looking at him and talking about, oh, he's a bell cow, he's going to be that.

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They look at the contract and they say four years, 48 million. This is basically a one-year deal, a really puffed up one-year deal by the Green Bay Packers. If you want to get very, I want to say look at this in a positive light, look at it as a two-year deal. But the reality is the Green Bay Packers, if Josh Jacobs PERSON doesn't bounce back, which his tackle break of metrics were terrible last year. After the previous season where he wrecked up, it was over 400 freaking touches, he was worn down.He got hurt. He wasn't breaking tackles. And he struggled last year. And people could try to wish that away, but it's the reality of it. If Josh Jacobs PERSON does not bounce back,the Green Bay Packers could cut him and only be on the, now I say only, they would have to absorb a 9.3 million dead cap hip, but they would be jettisoning him. Marshawn Lloyd is going to be the quick RB2 on this debt chart over AJ Dylan.I'm not worried about AJ Dylan. AJ Dylan hasn't broken a tackle since probably his first year in the league.

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But don't you think the perception out there is going to be he's buried on the debt chart?

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Whether you are right or wrong, I think the perception is clearly, oh, well, I'm not going to take him with my rookie picks because he's buried on the depth chart. Whether you are right or wrong, I think the perception is clearly,

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oh, well, I'm not going to take him

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with my rookie picks because he's behind

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Josh Jacobs PERSON, he's, you know,

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AJ Dylan's still around. This guy's buried on the depth chart. I think that perception makes him an intriguing Dynasty League ORG value, I think, and you certainly look at it that way.

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Hit the nail on the head. I think that people are going to tell themselves two very, very different stories with two running backs that are basically in the same situation. Now, you could talk about, okay, well, James Conner is a free agent next year. Josh Jacobs could be a free agent next year.So while people will jump on the Trey Benson PERSON stuff and say, oh, well, look, James Connor is definitively out the door. He's gone. They're going to sleep on the fact that maybe Josh Jacobs is gone after this year. So if you're telling me, Marshawn Lloyd PERSON is going to become an even better value in dynasty rookie drafts, I'm here for it.

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Well, the Buccaneers ORG didn't just go ahead and take a safety. They also took a wide receiver just now with the 90 second pick,

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Jalen McMillan, wide receiver from Washington. Thor PERSON, let's take a look into his comp and his

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potential for fantasy in 2024 and beyond. What do you have on McMillan PERSON? Yeah. So we're going to come

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full circle, you know, closing out the night now because I believe that Jalen McMillan is, and Joey,

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I hate to do this to Harken back to earlier, but I believe that Jalen McMillan is, and Joey, I hate to do this

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to Harkin back to earlier, but I believe he is a better prospect and player than Jalen Polk PERSON.

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And the only reason that people don't think that, and obviously Elliot Wolf doesn't, is because Jalen McMillan got injured in September. When those two guys were healthy, I mentioned this before, there was at no point when those two guys were on the same field together, did Michael Pennix or Kalin DeBoer? Did they ever think that Jalen Polk PERSON by the usage, by the way that they were using them was better than Jalen McMillan PERSON. And I also believe, you know, of course, that those guys are both going to be slots in the NFL ORG. I think Jalen McMillan is going to be a very, very good run. He's going to start for a long time. I comp him toTyler Boyd PERSON. That's what I think he is. He's the super duper crafty guy, well fortified. Is he going to blow your socks off, go down field? No, it's the intermediate stuff, just the clever get open out of the route break kind of stuff. He introduces doubt into the defender's head. By the way, he's running the route. He's going to create a little bit of separation. You're going to catch every ball. That's what he does. It's the efficiency stuff with Jalen McMillan PERSON. You can pound him with targets. That's what he's going to bring to his NFLoffense. I liked him a lot. I think I had a wide receiver 15 somewhere in there. I had Polk, you know, like four spots or so on my wide receiver rankings below that. But this is a good value. It's funny. I was bullish. You know, as DeBrow knows, I was super bullish on McMillan PERSON. I had him ranked above. I believe maybe anyone in the industry ranking them 93rd overall, he just went 92nd in the NFL ORG draft.So the NFL ended up seeing him exactly like I did, the Buccaneers ORG did. And I think, like I said, I think he's going to start in the NFL ORG for a long time in that slot. And I think

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he's a guy that you can pull him with targets. Well, the last one is a name familiar to a lot of fantasy

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managers out there. It's Luke McCaffrey at wide receiver. My boy. Commanders at 100. So there you go. Let's talk about it. What excites you about McCaffrey PERSON and should we be excited about him as a commander? We should. Yeah, especially with Jaden Daniels' PERSON game. I was pounding the table for McCaffrey all spring long. It ends up going in round three kind of crazy.And people that look at like Christian PERSON's brother, yada, yada, keep in mind, this guy when he came into the process, was being talked about as a UDFA or round seven guy. He goes into the pre-draft process, was impressive in Mobile GPE. Then it was really when he went to the combine and tested like he did when people really opened their eyes to his game. But he was a guy when he comes into college, he was a dual threat quarterback, a good one, top 100 recruit, but he failedat quarterback. He goes then to Rice finally after a couple of years failing there, Nebraska, Louisville ORG, transfers down to Rice, finally transitions to receiver. His first two years at receiver. So the last two seasons dominated conference USA. 80% of his snaps were played in the slot, 20 on the outside. He might be able to hang on the outside, but especially in G5 conferences, they will play their best receiver in the slot. You get them closer to the quarterback, the accuracy of verse guys. Luke McCaffrey wins down the field. His hands are awesome. He doesn't drop anything. His contested catch rate is ridiculous,especially, you look at him down the field. Debrough PERSON and I, we had so much fun watching his tape. When you look at the amount of catches that he caught where his helmet popped off, we saw more of that with McCaffrey PERSON than we did with the rest of the wide receiver class combined. The concentration that he has, you know, both with getting popped, but also the times where like J.T. Daniels PERSON would try to like fit the ball in with a descending safety. And then he had the cornerback from behind, try to fit it into these tight quarters. He would see the ball in through, you know, in these situations where other receivers, the concentration just isn't there.I was just a huge fan of his game in the past couple years in Conference USA ORG, prove the concept of the athleticism, which you probably shouldn't have had to do since his brothers, this athletic freak and, you know, NFL royalty, the bloodlines bloodlines obviously Ed, you know, Denver Broncos ORG and whatnot. And prove the concept. And again, the other thing I wanted to, you know, the context of it, keep in mind for people out there, he has only been playing the receiver position for two seasons.And the things that he showed doing that the last couple of years were very contextually impressive. You now put him with Jaden Daniels PERSON, a guy who was an absolute killer throwing the ball down the field. That's what Luke McCaffrey did at Rice ORG. I love this pick for Washington ORG.

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Erickson, your thoughts on McCaffrey before we shut it down for the evening. He's probably pretty good at football.

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So, I mean, chasing those bloodlines.

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Well, I mean, come on. Just because someone, you know, that's crazy talk. We can talk about some other brothers that were not as good as their other brother at certain sports all day long. So, you know, Jose Canseco and Ozzie Kinseko PERSON. We're twins for God's sake. Let's not forget that.So, uh, what can McCaffrey PERSON do in fantasy for folks? That's the real question.

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Well, it depends on how he slides into the depth chart. Now you look at the way the commanders are set up. You have Terry McLaurin as the number one. Jahan Dotson took a step back last year after an impressive rookie year. But he's still probably going to be at least the number two. So then Sanat PERSON joins the crew as a number.They still need number three. Like that's the way I look at it. So Zekertz, like no, Ben Sinat joins the crew as a number, they still need number three. Like, that's the way I look at it. So Zekertz, like, no, Ben's not like the Dianney Brown, Jameson Crowder, those types of players like, yeah, you could see Luke McCaffrey like carving out that starting slot role, you know, with Jahan Dotson and Terry McCoring and 11 personnel. So that's pretty exciting. I'm always kind of hesitant to buy into Cliff Kingsbury PERSON. But with Jane Daniels there, commanders just, you know, talking about how good their draft has been, how they haven't done what it seems like commanders or Washington ORG has done in thepast with draft picks. Like they're heading in the right direction. So, you know, when Luke McCaffrey was drafted here, it's like, oh, man, like it seems like this is like much higher than I anticipated him drafting. But maybe it's a signal to, hey, like, he's legit. Like, you know, he should take note.So I'm going to move him up my ranking significantly. And I need to go back and kind of reevaluate McCaffrey PERSON now that, you know, he's been drafted so high.

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107th on my board just went 100.

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But, you know, I was higher on him that I pretty sure than anyone in the industry is pretty interesting that in the NFL ORG draft goes right about there. There you have it,

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everybody. That is the recap of night two of the NFL draft. Again, that's round two and round three. But if you want more breakdowns, head over to our YouTube channel. We've got all those breakdowns. We've got shorts. We've got video clips. We've got the entire NFL draft you could watch again for all of our reactions and breakdowns on every single player, not just the important fantasy ones too. So go check that out again only on our YouTube channel at Fantasy Pros ORG. Plus, of course, we've got incredible content going forward now onbetting pros and on Fantasypros.com as well. I am excited. I hope you are for this 2024 NFL season because it is going to be here before you know it. And that, my friends, well, isn't that just the best? Also, quick shout out to our producer, John PERSON, running the streams, cutting the audio, and taking care of all the shows for us. He has done a fantastic job, so I want to shout out him on the show. We literally could not have done it without John PERSON.So shout out to him. He's done a phenomenal job of helping us get that content out to you. And, of course, our incredible production team and cast of characters and analysts at Fantasy Pro ORG. So it's a group effort. We hope you have enjoyed it. And we hope you join us for the rest of the 2024 fantasy football season. That'll do it for me, Joey P.We'll see you next time, kids.

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