Ep. 414- Superflex Dynasty Trade Values!

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You are now listening to The Dynasty Rewind.

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What is up, everybody?

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Welcome back to the Dynasty Rewind WORK_OF_ART.

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I'm your host Michael Bauer PERSON, the best in the business, once again back in business. Join us always by my faithful co-host, Nate, the professor, Christian PERSON. Nate, good evening. And welcome back.

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Good evening, Mike. Do you know what tonight is? Tuesday. It is the opening night of the WMBA season. Caitlin Clark PERSON is playing right now. I got to catch a little bit of her before we hopped on the podcast.

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I just cannot believe that I am priced out of a WMBA game. It's wild. I went to go to the Washington Mystics game this June to see Caitlin Clark and tickets start at like 130 bucks. I'm kind of

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upset about that. I will say it's very easy for Nate PERSON to get priced out of anything. If you don't

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know Nate PERSON very well, he is, as he is self-described, frugal. But that's okay. You know, Nate PERSON doesn't like wasting a lot of money. So that's just not

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no wasting out here. So Nate PERSON is a big value guy, I guess we could say, right, Nate? Big value guy.

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Ties him perfectly with today's episode because today we're talking about dynasty trades values

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in Superflex leagues superflex is our preferred format here at the dynasty rewind um so when we just talk about leagues in general unless otherwise noted again just to reiterate 12 team superflex no tight end premium full ppr is our standard scoring league here at the dynasty rewind why because we said so so let's

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get into it here. We're going to be talking about, so what we're going to do, here's how we're going to broach it. A broach, broach, approach, whatever. Here's how we're going to do it.We're going to give you a player. One of us will be buying. The other one will be selling. So I had the luxury of filling out the show sheet first, which means I got all the good. You got to get on there, man.You got to get on there.

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Oh, I like that it then forces me to do whatever. I like it. I like the challenge, Mike.

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To be fair, all except for one player, I really won on my team. And we'll get there. You know, just looking at this. I'm like, I could. And this is the time of year, too. I've said this before where we can probably make a case for most players.You could either buy or sell across the board. Yeah. Right?

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I think this point in the off season. It's all about value, Mike. It is all about like we don't hate players. We hate values for the dinosaur. But let's start it off. And let's talk about Green Bay Packers, wired receiver.Jaden Reed PERSON, a favorite here at the rewind. So ADP is currently 79 and keep trade cut. He's wide receiver 30. So, Nate PERSON, you're buying.

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Tell me why. I am buying.

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You know, ambiguity creates opportunity. And in the Packers ORG' offense right now in that wide receiver room, there's a lot of unknown, okay? But we know there's a lot of good players there. It's just who's going to be the eventual pecking order. You know, you got Jaden Reed PERSON, who we all love around here.You got Romeo Doves, who's looked very good and actually led the team in all the main three categories for receiving last year. You got Bow Melton PERSON out there. You got Don Tavian Wicks out there. You got Christian Watson PERSON out there when he's healthy and got those hamstrings working. All right. I still believe thatJaden Reed is the best wide receiver out there. Maybe Christian Watson PERSON went fully healthy, but I don't believe that's going to be a consistent thing anytime soon. So Jaden Reed with his versatility to play inside outside. He plays about 75, 25, but he can play outside. He's not limited to just a slot. He's not a guy that's only out there when they're in three wide receiver set. He can go out there when they're in three wide receiver set. He can go out there when they're playing two wide receivers.And this offense was so efficient last year. Like the worries of, okay, well, maybe Reed's ceiling is limited because of all the talent in the wide receiver room. But he still put up top 25 numbers last year as a rookie in that offense. Like he performed very well and was very efficient with his opportunities. Okay. He was like I said, Romeo Dubs PERSON led the team in all the main receiving categories,but he was second in receptions, yards, and receiving touchdowns. He was also first in yards per route run behind. Bow Melton PERSON technically, but he doesn't really qualify.

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He didn't run enough uh routes for me

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and then uh melton by the way yeah how about that he's like the wide receiver five and maybe he's like the best wide receiver five in the league who knows um he also led the team in yak rec so jaden reed efficient when he's on the field he was on the field a lot he was productive he put up great fantasy numbers he also put up 12 rushes for 128 yards and two touchdowns on the ground. Mike, we love versatility as well. Jaden Reed PERSON has that. So Jaden Reed is someone I'm still going after. I think, you know, wide receiver 30. He's outside of that top 25. I think there's value there. I'm going after Jaden Reed PERSON.So I'm buying him from you. Okay. All right. My suggested cost to buy Jaden Reed is somewhere on that fence of the 112 PRODUCT, the 201, around that turn. What do you, what are you thinking, Mike? Would you sell?

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Well, we're looking at the turn here. We're going to the Dynasty Rewinds ORG rookie ADP. And the 112 is Xavier Worthy and the 201 is Bownex. Now, one pick before Xavier Worthy is Brian Thomas PERSON. So I would much prefer Brian Thomas over Xavier Worthy and the 201 is Boe Nix. Now, one pick before Xavier Worthy is Brian Thomas. So I would much prefer Brian Thomas over Xavier Worthy PERSON. However, Xavier Worthy PERSON might have ample opportunity. We don't know what's going to shake down with Rishie Rice PERSON, who I really hope he just figures it out, you know, and just can kind of chill a little bit because he had a reallygood rookie season. But that being said, I think it's fair. I think it's a fair deal. And if I'm looking to move on, I'm going to make this move because then I'm going to take those picks and tell you why I'm selling. He's valued ahead of players that I think can out produce him now.If I'm in a win now situation, this is really important. He's valued ahead. Like I said, of players like Mike Evans, DeVante Adams, and Debo, Samuel PERSON. I think you can make a case for all three that they can be more productive this year than Jane Reed PERSON. Is Jane Reed PERSON a better long-term asset?Yeah, he is. Unfortunately, sometimes if you want to win championships, these are moves that you have to make. I can move on from a guy that you like a little bit because, let's face it, there's good wide receivers in every single draft we saw it this year we've saw it last year especially um but i would like any of these guys for a short term probably have about a two to three year window on mike evans and devante adams debo samuelmight be a little bit longer i know that there was talks about him getting moved but i feel

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like that was just all the pre-draft yeah pre-draftsrafts, rumors. Speculation, him and Brandon Ayuk PERSON.

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I mean, the fact of the matter is the San Francisco 49ers ORG are a better team with them on their roster.

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And he was wide receiver 25 on the season. I know you said that the Greenwood Packers' ORG offense was extremely efficient, but what's his ceiling?

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What if Christian Watson PERSON can keep it together and stay on the field? Does that hurt, Jaden Reed PERSON? We don't know. But if I want to win now, this is a move that I would gladly make to do it. I'll take the 112 PRODUCT. I'll probably ask for maybe a 25 fourth on top of it, just a little something extra.

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No, I love Jaden Reed, but there's some good talent in the first round this year. It's already, you know, to move a first round for Jaden Reed PERSON, it's already kind of on the fence there. I think this is about the turn. I much prefer the 201, 201, 202.

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So you wouldn't move a fourth round pick a year out to get a deal done? Maybe if you trade me a fifth in 2026. This guy's and goes, this is what I deal with on a regular basis. In case anyone's wondering, fine, make it a 255th. How's that sound? All right.Okay.

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There we go. All right. Very good. So that was Jane Reed PERSON for you, everybody. Nate PERSON's buying.

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I'm selling. Let's get to the next one. He's another young wide receiver. This is Jordan Addison of the Minnesota Vikings ORG. His ADP is 58 and he's wide receiver 22 on keep trade cut. So Nate PERSON, before we get into it, are you surprised that he'sranked a little bit higher than Jaden Reed PERSON? No, I'm not. He had a better draft capital coming out.

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He's a better prospect coming out. And he performed pretty well last year considering the quarterback play. Yeah.

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And that's part of the reason why I am buying him is why I did see for 23 last year. Now, I'm buying with the caveat that I know he may not have as productive as the season this year that he did last year. Justin Jefferson PERSON will be back to full health. Is it going to be Sam Donald to start? Is it going to be JJ McCarthy? I don't know.So I'm thinking that this is a move I'm making to take a step back. If I'm a contending team, probably not looking to buy Jordan Addison PERSON, all right? But I think this is going to be the lowest you are going to be able to buy Jordan Addison for a while. We saw what he could do without Justin Jefferson PERSON. Maybe when he gets some consistent quarterback play, come in there, he can start to really shine out.Like I said, changing of quarterbacks, that's a buy window right there. That scares people off, not this guy. I understand that it may seem hypocritical to buy Jordan Addison and sell Jaden Reed PERSON. Okay? Let's not forget, he is slightly younger, I believe he's about a year and a half younger without doing the math off the top of my head. was also a higher draft pick as well so he has the better draft capital

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he has the age right now i'm ready to buck up for jordan addison if i could do it for a late 24 first

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talking like the 112 would prefer the 201 Nate like you would with jaden reed and if i have to put a 25 second on there to do it, I would. I would ask for a late round pick back in exchange as well. You know, I could do a 20, let's say the one, let's say it's the 11, a 25 second. We don't know what that's going to be yet. And I would take, I would give you those, that I would get Jordan Addison PERSON, and I would hope.Some Fab PERSON. Well, some Fab PERSON, of course. When it's a trade with me, always anticipate Fab PERSON being on there. I'd hope to get a fourth back on top of that. That's where I'm starting at. And Nate PERSON's going to deny it, but what do you got, Nate?

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You're selling. I'm selling Jordan Edison PERSON here, and that might seem kind of silly because I was Jordan

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Edison's biggest fan last offseason, putting him up in that tier with JSN, much to Bob PERSON chagrin.

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Jordan Edison performed great, you know, wide receiver 23. But as much as I love Jordan Edison PERSON, I actually am kind of considering selling him because he's got the rookie quarterback coming in, and I believe in JJ PERSON. But once T.J. Hawkinson PERSON's healthy midway through the season, closer maybe to the end, depending on how that recovery actually goes about, there's just going to be a lot of mouseto feed for a team that, you know, are they going to throw as much as they did with Kirk PERSON cousins? I don't necessarily expect them to be as pass heavy moving forward as they were with Kirk PERSON. Not that JJ PERSON can't do that, but when he's a rookie quarterback, they would rather him not have to do that. So, you know, Jordan Addison, whether or not he's the second target or the third target in this team is going to be tough once Hawkinson PERSON gets back healthy. I do still absolutely believe in him. I'm happy to have him on my teams.But, Mike, if you would want to trade me, Jaden Reed PERSON, and a 25 second for Jordan Addison PERSON, I would do that deal. For Jordan Addison and a fourth. And $3 FAB. Deal.There you go. See, because look, hey, I love Jordan Addison PERSON, wide receiver 23 last year, but Jaden Reed, wide receiver 25 last year. I have to find it. I did a trade the other day.

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I think it's a league you and I aren't in. And I know they listened to the pod. I kept saying

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and I was waiting for the fab and they kept adding draft picks. You said that to me. You said and I

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threw a fourth round swap in there and And then you're like, and.

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But I did it to somebody else.

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I did it to somebody else too. And I'm like, you were the one that surprised me because I'm like, this guy podcast with me every week. He knows what I want. But I was doing it to someone else. And he's like, ah, what? And I'm like, listen, buddy, take these off.I just wanted some fab. You're going to rip yourself off here. Okay.

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Man, I gave you an extra pick swap.

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I was so pissed about that.

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I know, and I loved it.

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And you know what? That was really sweet of you, if I could be honest with you. So thank you very much.

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I love you, Mike.

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It's mutual, my friend. All right, so we're making that deal. Virtual handshake, very good. Let's get into it here. Player Profiler, please change his picture. He's not bad, man.He is Los rams ORG wide receiver cooper cup a dp is 98 why deceiver 37 on keep trade cut did i can't remember seeing cooper cup

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this low quite a long time that you're going to buy i'm going to sell and we're going to tell you

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guys why momentarily go for it all right so right. So look, if you need points, Cooper Cup WORK_OF_ART is still your guy.

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Look, he's turning 31 in the next couple months, like right before the season starts. So he is getting older. So if your team is not a contending team, I do recommend moving off Cooper Cup WORK_OF_ART if you haven't already. You probably can do it for even more value closer to the season, maybe a couple weeks into the season. Because I don't think Cooper Cup is washed. He was the wide receiver won in points per game, not last year, but the two years before that. And then last year, dealing with some injuries and the emergence ofKukkah, he was still the wide receiver 23 in points per game. Excuse me. Yeah, you're dying over there, Mike. It's okay, though. It's allergy season, man. I'm trying to mute myself. That one caught up on me. Look, he still had 64 receptions for 764 yards and five touchdowns. Like I said, wide receiver 23 in points per game. Very productive. Give him a full season.Matthew Stafford PERSON, he's not retired yet. Everyone wants to write him off, but he's going to go out there and probably throw it for 4,500 yards. So Cooper Cup, Bukkah, there's not really a strong wide receiver three right now. They moved Ben Scronick earlier to the Texans ORG for a pick swap. They have Jordan Whittington and Demarcus Robinson as the wide receivers after those two.Tyler Higby tore his ACL late in the season, so he's not going to factor in at all. Davis Allen PERSON might be a nice little pickup for those who play in tight-in premium leagues, and he's probably sitting on your waiver wire. And if he's not, hopefully you already have him when your taxes go up. But Cooper Cup WORK_OF_ART, like I said, still productive, still someone you're going to put in your starting lineup.And he's accessible right now, Mike. Look, every game that he played in, except for one where he only ran eight routes because of injury, he had at least six targets more except for one of those. So let me rephrase that in the 13 games he played minus one so 12 games in 11 of those he at least had six receptions and in eight of those he at least had eight targets

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all right so he's been productive he's very good still good i'm going to be buying him for an early second. Say the

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204, Mike. Unless you pick up another wide receiver at that point. Re-roll the dice because, hey, you don't want points on your team anymore, right? By the way, Matthew Stafford PERSON, nine seasons

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over 4,000 yards. And one of those seasons was over 5,000. So good on you, Matthew Stafford PERSON. Yeah, I'm going to sell. We're going to come back to that 204 in just a moment. I'm going to tell you why. So he is aging, but I want to sell at a premium. Okay, there's sometimes where if you don't think your team can bring it home and sometimes to get better, you need to sell your better players.That's just how it works. It's 30. You missed four games last year of the hamstring strain. By the way, did you know the Cooper Cup EVENT has only played in two full seasons in his career? It's true. Yeah. So he has missed some time. I think I would like a little bit more for Cooper Cup WORK_OF_ART. I would like, or what else can you add to it? If you can't give me a higherpick this year, what can you do to sweeten the deal for me?

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How can I somehow turn Cooper Cup into Mike Evans PERSON?

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Might sound crazy. I'll take, you know, I understand Cooper Cup's EVENT ceiling might be higher, but give me Mr. Consistency any day of the week.

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You might have some people willing to make that trade, straight up swap, and as we always say on here, if you're making a swap, always ask for something on top because obviously that person prefers your player to their player so even if it's a fourth roundpick add that on top you know you don't need to do just a swap for a swap would you do Mike Evans PERSON in a

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fourth round pick for Cooper Cup because I hate doing this I'm a big Mike Evans PERSON fan I know you are I know you

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but I hate doing this with you because I know what it's like dealing with you.

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I know.

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This is like a, it's such an interesting format for us to do over podcast. And, uh, because I'm the worst to negotiate with.

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I can't strangle you through my microphone,

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unfortunately.

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I'm over here like,

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I'm just trying to figure out all these different things.

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Um,

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I would consider, um, the Mike Evans in a fourth for Cooper Cup WORK_OF_ART. I think it's kind of a lateral move. You know, I like Baker PERSON. I like Mike Evans PERSON. Can I give you a 204 and like 302?Hmm.

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Let me check the ADP.

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So you're going to get a wide receiver or running back to your choice with that second round pick and then I would be turning essentially if you just go by the current

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updated dynasty round rookie ADP I would be turning Cooper Cup into you said the 204 PRODUCT that's Jalen Polk and 302 is Jalen Wright it's a lot of Jens. I think it's Jolene Polk PERSON, is it? I'll go on YouTube and see how they say his name because I don't remember. Jeline PERSON.J.P. It's J.P. from the New England Patriots ORG. I don't know. If I'm selling Cooper Cup WORK_OF_ART, I think I want some proven production. That's the thing. It's fair.You know, I don't, unless I'm really, really tearing it down, I need to move my proven production for something that I can at least bank on. And I think even in rebuild, too, unless you know you're getting some bona fide picks, like you're getting high or mid first round picks, but these guys can be in your starting lineup right away. And it's important. Remember, even in rebuild, you have to set a starting lineup. You do.Just keep that in consideration.

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What do you need on top of Calvin Ridley?

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You're probably not the biggest Calvin Ridley fan.

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That's a badass.

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But if you want Cooper Cup and you have Calvin Rid ridley PERSON i would be looking to move calvin ridley in an early third for cooper cup EVENT or something like that that to me is better although i would prefer

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christian kirk in an early third i know you were but i don't want to sell christian kirk and we're

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probably going to be talking about that later in this podcast i uh Calvin riddley in an early third

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moves the needle more than just the straight-up picks. Yeah. That's a little younger, like two years younger.

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Yeah, it's a little bit younger, but I know that that's an asset I could put into

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my line up every week.

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He may not be my wide receiver one, but he's probably going to be a solid wide receiver

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too. And if it's an early third, you know, just going 301 to 304, we're looking at Blake Corum, Jalen Wright, Roman Wilson, who a lot of people are high on, Jetavian Sanders PERSON. He's a guy that I'm kind of scooping up everywhere. He went in the fourth round to, I'm sorry, Carolina GPE.

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I don't know why I said Tennessee GPE. The colors are blue. It is the blue.

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But I think Jetavian Sanders value is going to just increase exponentially over the next year or two. So, yeah, that's moving the needle for me. You're putting the fab on there. Yeah, we'll put the fable. We'll make it happen.

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Okay, Mike, next player.

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Let's move on to the next player.

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You're buying this player.

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I am tanked out.

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I got to admit that I was wrong.

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ADP is 59.

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Why does he have 23 on Keep Trade Cut WORK_OF_ART?

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The Houston Texans. He's a little bit older. He's 24 than some of the second year players and some rookies as well. But by the way, everybody, the aging prospects within the next year or two, we're going to be getting away from a lot of these older prospects. You know, COVID ORG just pushed everything back guys transferring around.They opened up the transfer stuff. So we're going to be getting back to the 21, 22 year old guys, maybe a couple 23-year-olds here and there. I don't know, man. We might, we might see more, more older players come out. Yeah, with the no, it's possible. Like I said, he's older than some second year players and rookies, extremely effective prior to his injury. Check this out, Nate, 47 catches, 709 yards, and seven touchdowns. Crazy.That is 15.1 yards per reception, which is really good. And 15 fantasy points per game. That is just absolutely insane. Of course, he didn't finish the season.We know that. But still, I am willing, Nate PERSON, because I'm a fan. I'm willing to pay the 202 for him.

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How's that? Yeah.

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202.

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All right. All right.

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Your namesake, wide receiver, Nathaniel PERSON.

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Yeah.

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Look, tank tail, very talented.

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As you mentioned, 15 points per game.

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That is an impressive.

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The 202.

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This is an impressive threshold to reach.

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And look, maybe I'm selling because

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Stefan Diggs PERSON went there.

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I'm a big Nico Collins PERSON believer.

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I think Nico PERSON is the bona fide wide receiver one of that team moving forward as good as Tank Dell PERSON is. So there's a lot of mouse to feed now in that offense. Joe Mixon PERSON's also there. Expect him to be better than Damien Pyris and Devin Singletary last year. Dalton Shultz PERSON.

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As good as our end, Dalton Shultz got extended. I believe he got a three-year deal this

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offseason. So there are a lot of mouse to feed in the Texans ORG offense. Do I want to

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keep hold of Tankdale, who as you mentioned, currently wide receiver 23 on keep trade cut, actually looking right now, he's moved up to wide receiver 21 as of tonight. So he is currently over names like say Flowers, Jordan Addison, JSN ORG, other rookies he came in with that were more highly talented. So do I want to do the 202? That's all I'm getting back for Tank Dell PERSON.

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It's a great deal for you. He's like the wide receiver

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one apparently of all the rookies from last year.

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A really good deal for you and I'm really glad that we could make this happen.

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Mike, I'm going to need a first. I'm going to need a late

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first or something on top of the

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202 because

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that efficiency that Tank Dell PERSON showed

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last year was too impressive.

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It was too impressive.

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And when CJ Stroud goes on podcasts and makes up these fake plays that he's going to beat Michael Parsons PERSON with, and he's talking about his all-star lineup, every single time he puts Tank Dell PERSON in that team. So CJ Stroud thinks incredibly highly of Tank Dell PERSON, and that keeps me, keeps my attention for sure. I got to be honest with you, I think incredibly highly of mydale and that that keeps me, keeps my attention for sure.

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I got to be honest with you, I think incredibly highly of my five-year-old daughter. I'm not drawing any place up for her. That being said, you wouldn't sell her for the 2002, would you? Well, I wouldn't sell her for anything. You know what? I'll give you a first round pick.I will give you the 116. Yeah. In the 16th league.

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Okay.

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I can go as high as high as the 110 PRODUCT. I give you the 110 PRODUCT. You give me Tank Dell and Jalen Hyatt. Oh, man.

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You know, you're probably going to have to give me a third to make that happen as well.

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We should probably be writing these down. The 110 PRODUCT. 110 PRODUCT. A third.

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305. Sure. 305.

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Four. Tankdale PERSON.

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And I'm going to start calling him NT Dell. All right.

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You do that. I don't think it's going to catch you on just so you know.

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I think you have a bad chance of having a dank tail.

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Well, I'll say what, my non-consensual Dylan Johnson PERSON caught on.

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Did it?

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To me, it did.

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And listen, I think Jalen Hyatt's also a really good bylaw right now. A lot of people are just trashing the New York Giants ORG wide receiver room. And if you're a Giants fan, prayers up, good luck and fourth place. But still, I mean, I think he's a good by-low. So I'm happy to throw an extra pick on there. Got my boy, NT Dell ORG.

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Dude, I'm getting a Dell ORG. This is awesome. You remember those commercials? Oh, yes, I do. Great. So I asked somebody at work if they remembered something the other day, and then he told me he was 19.I was like, right, you don't remember that then. Okay. So I got myself some tank Dell, and now Nate is going to possibly, I don't know, maybe he's going to buy or sell Seattle Seahawks wide receiver, Jackson Smith and Jigba PERSON. His ADP is 64. He's wide receiver 25. Keep trade cut.So Nate PERSON, what are we doing here? What are you doing?

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Oh, I am buying JSN ORG. I think this is one of the best buys of the offseason. Everyone's down on JSN after honestly, he just met expectations last year. Anyone who had expectations beyond what he put up, I think, was a little unrealistic, to be honest, because D.K. Metcalf and Tyler Lockett are very good wide receivers who aren't just going to bepushed out of the starting lineup, especially by a rookie who hadn't played for an entire year. He didn't play really at all his final season at Ohio State ORG. So there's, he was a little rusty, had to get back into the swing of things. He's not going to come out and just perform at a Justin Jefferson level year one. But I do think that we have a player that is bound to have a really good season this year. I think this is the year that we start to see that switch of Tyler Lockett and JSN ORG.Look, I'm not saying Tyler Lockett's just going to fall at the face of the planet anytime soon. But I do think we start to see a shift where JSN could be that wide receiver two for the team this year and maybe eventually the wide receiver won. So according to player profiler, JSN create the sixth most average separation in the NFL ORG for wide receivers. This is an elite route runner we're talking about.He knows how to create separation. And that is how you win as a wide receiver in today's NFL ORG. So I love what that brought with JSN ORG. But on top of that, not only can he create separation, he average 5.9 yards after the catch per reception, yak, wreck, Mike. That is better than I expected. Look, JSN ORG, he's always been a really good route runner, a technician. But I didn't think he was incredible after the catch in college.I thought that was maybe one of his lower points. But 5.9 yards after catch per reception last year, that's a pretty good mark to hit in the NFL ORG. His a dot's a little low, which might kind of be part of that. But I like what he was doing when he had the ball after the catch. Also, one other thing that I kind of wanted to see this year that I had some question marks with JSN ORG is can he play outside?He still played 70% inside, but he did play 30% of his snaps outside. I like to see that versatility as well because if he has that kind of versatility, it only makes him more prone to get on the field, see more snaps, have more opportunities. And I really like where JSN ORG is valued right now. I'm trying to move a late first right now for JSN ORG. I'm moving the 110, the 111, try to make that happen for JSM ORG.

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I'm going to take it. I'm going to tell you why. Because if I could land either Ladd-McConkie PERSON, Brian Thomas, or Xavier Worthy, which is the range of the 110 to 112 PRODUCT right now. I'm going to do it. I think we have three players with clear paths to playing time and fantasy production right now,especially when you consider this is an offense that's in transition with Gino Smith or Sam Halla PERSON quarterback. We don't really know. Another team that I'm surprised didn't address the quarterback position at all in the draft. And I understand this wasn't deep and quarterbacks went early,

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but there was some developmental guys they could have taken. They could have taken a guy like Sam Hartman, Michael Pratt PERSON. They could have just made, you know, we're talking something. Get a guy in there, start to try to develop somebody do something with the whole goal from what I was told from an Eagles ORG podcast I listened to with these late round quarterbacks, you develop a guy and you hope that if the worst case scenario is they come inand play for you, that they're good enough to win you some games and you could trade them for future draft capital. So they did none of that going in with these two guys.

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Tyler Lockett, he's back. How many targets are going to, they're going to be with the new coaching staff? Kenneth Walker PERSON. Let's not forget, screen champion himself. We got Zach Charbonnet PERSON. Who's the guy?Kenny McIntosh PERSON, still hanging around. He's still hanging out. Who's a better screen receiver than Zach Charbonnet PERSON? They should have fired Pete Carroll PERSON right after he said that. He won't receive 48 on the season, 8.8 fantasy points per game. So give me lab.Give me Brian Thomas PERSON. I know you're probably shocked that I'm saying, give me lab, McConkey PERSON, and give me, who's the other guy, said, Xavier Worthy PERSON. So give me those three guys over JSN ORG right now. Will that payoff in the long term?Very possibly could, if very possibly couldn't, but that is the move I'm making right now. And Nate, let's talk about one of my favorite wide receivers. Jack the little Jaguars wide receiver, Christian Kirk, devalued every year. ADP is 101.He's wide receiver 40 on keep trade cut.

Speaker 11771.82s - 1790.26s

I am buying him because Nate, I'm expecting more of 2022 Christian Kirk PERSON than 2023, Christian Kirk PERSON. He got banged up a little bit last year. Check this out, though. In 2022, 17 games, 84 receptions, 1,1008 yards and eight touchdowns last year.

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12 games, 57 receptions, 787 yards and three touchdowns. Still not terrible. And even though I did just say I would take Brian Thomas PERSON, let's face it, Christian Kirk is the best target right now that the Jacksonville Jaguars ORG have.

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So the notable competition,

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Gabe Davis and Ricky Brian Thompson PERSON. I do believe that they cut Say Jones PERSON that I see a little.

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They did. They did cut Jay Jones PERSON, which, you know, Zay Jones PERSON is a nice piece for, you know, having on an NFL ORG team,but they cut them, not a big deal. But I'm going to go ahead. I'm going to buy this guy. And Nate PERSON, go ahead.

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I'm going to offer you, Amari Cooper PERSON straight up. So congratulations on your Amari Cooper PERSON share.

Speaker 11836.64s - 1875s

It was like a pretty lateral move to me. And I, be honest, I like the Jags offense more than the Browns ORG offense. I trust their quarterback more. Mike, see, under my point for why sell, I just say I hate to. I hate to sell Christian Kirk PERSON. I just picked him up in our startup, our campus to Canton startup that we're doing right now. I just picked up Christian Kirk PERSON.And I'm ecstatic to have him because he's the wide receiver one for Trevor Lawrence PERSON. And I think that's going to go great this year, even with Brian Thomas PERSON coming there. But I do have to sell him because he's the wide receiver one for Trevor Lawrence. And I think that's going to go great this year, even with Brian Thomas coming there. But I do have to sell him. So I can't ask for a first round pick for Christian Kirk PERSON. No, he's like 27 now.

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Yeah, he's 27 now.

Speaker 11877.32s - 1907.36s

So he's really entering his prime. And, you know, you mentioned the stats. You know, 84 receptions two years ago. He's a guy that can handle volume out of that slot position. Also can play outside can stretch the defense, you know, you mentioned the stats, you know, 84 receptions two years ago. He's a guy that can handle volume out of that slot position. Also can play outside can stretch the defense, you know, down the field as well. That's what he did with the Cardinals ORG when he was with them.So I like his versatility. If I'm going to have to move him, though, it's going to be one of those early seconds. You're going to let me re-roll the dice with Xavier Leggett, with a, you know, Lab McConkey PERSON, if he falls to that point, I'm going to need like the 202 or the 203. Okay.

Speaker 01908.24s - 1912.14s

Also, Josiah Degora's citing on the Jacksonville Jaguarie ORG roster.

Speaker 11913.38s - 1915.04s

Devin Duvene PERSON is down there as well.

Speaker 01915.1s - 1915.6s

Yeah, he is.

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All right.

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You know what?

Speaker 11918.68s - 1919.68s

How about the 204 PRODUCT?

Speaker 01919.76s - 1920.48s

Would you take that?

Speaker 11921.68s - 1924.36s

You're really, you're really testing me.

Speaker 01924.54s - 1925.78s

I learned from the best.

Speaker 11926.54s - 1930.5s

You know what? The 204 PRODUCT could get me that,

Speaker 01930.5s - 1931s

Trey Benson PERSON.

Speaker 11932.02s - 1933.52s

That would get you.

Speaker 01933.52s - 1934.86s

And I might need a running back.

Speaker 11935.22s - 1938.52s

Trey Benson might be gone, but Marshawn Lloyd PERSON will definitely be there.

Speaker 01938.9s - 1940.4s

Marshawn Lloyd PERSON will definitely be there.

Speaker 11940.48s - 1943.98s

He's last into the third of most rookie drafts that I'm in, which is ridiculous.

Speaker 01944.18s - 1946s

I'd pick him up me a second. I don't get a I'd pick him up maybe second. I don't get. A lot

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of people are hating on him. I don't get it.

Speaker 01948.42s - 1949.98s

I think the problem is

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picking the world right now. The problem is when people draft running backs, they want the clearest path to productivity right away.

Speaker 01958.7s - 1970.94s

And right now that might be Trey Benson PERSON, I think, because Jonathan Brooks PERSON is going to take a little bit of time. I understand that they said he could be healthy. Brooks is the first one to get production.

Speaker 11971.2s - 1972.38s

James Conn is head of Trey Benson PERSON.

Speaker 01972.68s - 1972.8s

Yeah.

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All Brooks that's got to do is just be healthy and beat out Chuba and Mount Sanders PERSON.

Speaker 01980.54s - 1981.88s

Tuba Hubbard played pretty good.

Speaker 11982.12s - 1982.54s

He did.

Speaker 01982.9s - 1983.32s

He did.

Speaker 11983.62s - 1984.1s

I'm not hating.

Speaker 01984.6s - 1987.84s

But so the 204, good deal. Thank you, Nate PERSON.

Speaker 11987.84s - 1989.1s

We can move on now.

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You have to give me three fab. I'll give you four. All right. There you go. Perfect. All right. Got one last one. I'm going to have to start setting up the show sheet because I know Bob PERSON did this is on purpose.Nate, wider receiver, zero, Atlanta Falcons ORG, wide receiver, Drake, London PERSON. Yet again, his ADP is 31 and he's wide receiver 11. So you're-

Speaker 22012.98s - 2014.9s

Wide receiver 11, Mike.

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You're talking about the guy who was wide receiver 42 last year

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in points per game. And the year before that, wide receiver 43. He's never been a wide receiver 3 in points a year.

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Talk about his yak-reck now. Talk about his yak-rag. That's never been a wide receiver three in points a year. Talk about his yakreck now. Talk about his yakrak. That's my favorite.

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This yak rec is 2.8. Career average of three. Oh, it gets better. But they- In separation.

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These are the stats I pulled to buy Drake London PERSON. Look, he's a young, high draft capital wide receiver on an improving offense okay look they just

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this the Atlanta falcons team they're investing into their offense they picked up Michael

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Pennix in the top 10 you know they're really making sure that that offense is good to go um so drake london wheels up wide receiver 11 price is ridiculous I don't know who's out there buying that you were doing that last year and then what do you do this year? I mean, come on.

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It's going to have a better year this year, obviously. But this wide receiver 11 price is ridiculous. So, Mike, you're not getting that kind of value out of me.

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If I am buying Drake London PERSON, because as we say, we don't hate players, we hate values. If Drake London, if I can get Drake London for the 108, 109, I'll do it. Now, to some people, that sounds ridiculous. Like, oh my gosh, how could you devalue him so much? As I said, he hasn't even broken the top 40 for points per game so far in his career. I know there's other things that go into that other than just his talent, but he doesn'tseparate, doesn't create yards after the catch. I talk about that triangle all the time for wide receivers. Can you separate? Can you create the catch? And can you win contested catch situations? He wins contested catches, but it doesn't do too much more than that.I'm not paying a top 12 wide receiver price for him. Mike, I'll give you the 109 for Drake London PERSON.

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Well, if you're going to want to overpay for him, when was he drafted? Was it 21 or 22?

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It was the 22 draft. Okay. Top 10 pick.

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Yeah.

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And since then, he's given you wire receiver 31 and wide receiver 36 finishes.

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So if you said the 109, yeah, that's fine. That gets me Jonathan Brooks PERSON or my pick of Ladd-McConkey, Brian Thomas, Xavier Worthy PERSON. What I'm going to do is I'm going to take that pick. I'm going to cash it in. I'm probably going to trade back a little bit into the second, early second round and pick up like Xavier Legate PERSON. Maybe somebody is interested in Rakey

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Pierce also. If you could turn. Mike. Yes. Who do you think scores more points this year?

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Drake London or Ladd-McConkey PERSON?

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Literally anybody. Quentin Johnston might score more points. Stop.

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It's possible. Look, they're giving Quentin Johnston every opportunity to be a viable wide receiver. So if it doesn't happen again this year, you can't blame the Chargers ORG coaching staff. You can't blame Justin Herbert,unless the team just completely falls apart. But they got rid of Keenan Allen PERSON. You know what I mean? There's Josh Palmer there. There's Lab McConkey PERSON. So you have a guy who's coming off an injury, he's banged up last year, and you got another rookie in there. It's a good route runner, but he has an injury history himself. So Quentin Johnston is being given every opportunity to prove himself. So if he doesn't do it, then he just really does suck, which I'm pretty sure the guy that I'm podcasting with right now said, this guy is not that great.So there's a path. There is a path to Quentin Johnston out producing Drake London PERSON. But I think I'm probably going to go with Lab McConkey PERSON. Do I think Lab McConkey can be better than wide receiver 36 in his first year in the NFL ORG with Justin Herbert at quarterback? Yes. Yes, yes I do it's a close one it might not be that close to be honest with you it really might well we'll see so we'll see Mike yeah I don't know I justlook don't forget free seven day trial on Patreon Please don't DM me questions about Drake London PERSON. I just can't. What should I buy Drake London PERSON for? Don't. Late first. Why?

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If you're going to buy Drake London PERSON.

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Buy Terry McLaren PERSON instead. Why would I do that?

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Probably.

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