Is It Last Call for the Lakers & Embiid Has What Now?

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This is the drive-and-ditch podcast.

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Quick, quick. Welcome to your post. apply. This is the drive-and-ditch podcast. To start it off, it's Kevin Rayfews and Justin Kuzat PERSON.

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Let's go.

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Everything's miserable. It's an awful NBA ORG playoffs. We hate every second of this. Just one last night. Come on.

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I don't care.

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If it was after game two it would have got dark quick on this end but um dude yeah oh actually you just reminded me someone was asking me to go on their podcast side note what that's like mad add i'll have to we'll talk

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about that off the mic and you talk about hoops or you talk about video games hoops and they wanted

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me to talk NFL um but i was kind of like listen listen, if you want me to talk the draft, I got nothing for you right now. Like, I don't, I am very casual football fan when it's the off season.

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Honestly, I think the Jags and the Eagles who are both our squads both had pretty good drafts last night overall. So, I mean, we are, again, with the full NBA ORG playoffs.

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Except, except Tony gone turned the, NBA ORG playoff slate. Except, Tony Kahn turned the whole thing into an AEW ORG promotion, which is so wild.

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Well, I mean, that was incredibly on brand. But again, we don't, we need super dive into the NFL draft of the whole NBA ORG playoff slate in front of us right now. I mean, speaking, AEW ORG, Sixers, Knicks looks like an AEW event right now, but we can get into that in an entirely, you know, we have plenty to stay there. And I mean, speaking, A.E.W. Sixers, Knicks looks like an AEW event right now, but we can get into that in an entirely, you know, we have plenty to stay there. And I know I'm wearing the shirt right now,

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but I promise I won't be biased on this episode. There was, uh, you know, I was wondering that after game one, I was like, damn, were Kevin and I a little Sixers ORG blind there where we were really,

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seven, wait a minute. I didn't say we're going to crush them.

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But that first game did not feel good at all. Like nothing about it felt great. Game two felt even worse if we're being honest. It's just like, oh man, nothing about, I know we're getting off topic, but nothing about the 76ers inspires me right now. Yes. And B just had a 50 point game. The dude cannot jump.

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Tyrese-Maxie PERSON winning most improved players should inspire you. And again, we will save our Sixers and Nick PERSON's thoughts for a little bit because I got a lot to unpack as well. And I'm sure there are plenty of people listening to that. I know Andrew PERSON was waiting for this.

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I knew that I saw on Twitter. He's not thrilled about last night. Look, I wouldn't be either if I was on their side. So I completely understand. But Tyrese, Most Improved WORK_OF_ART Player. We got a few awards we want to talk about here.But, you know, we can start there since it's Segwayed. You know, bringing it home just ahead of Kobe White PERSON. You have the full numbers ahead of you, right?

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I have not. I'm trying to pull his up. It's not showing up at the moment.

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I'm talking about the voting tallies. You're talking about the voting tallies? I'm not. No, I'm done the pull his up. It's not showing up at the moment. I'm talking about the voting tallies. You're talking about the voting tallies? I'm not...

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No, I'm the voting for most improved, right?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, they just, hold on. There it is. Okay, so Maxie got 51 first place votes. Colby White got 32 as the, you know, number two. Really, those were the main two. Like, if we're being honest, total points.

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Who got third? Jalen Brunson's on here at, I think that's third. They have it weird.

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Jalen Brunson, Cam Thompson, Jalen Suggs, Hallie, Grayson Allen, Duncan Robinson PERSON.

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Oh, okay. We'll figure this out here real quick. I'm trying to figure out what I mean, I know it was close.

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Yes, so Maxie got 319 total points. Colby White got 305. And honestly,

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Shangun got second.

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Shangun got third. He was not even on my list. What is this?

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Okay. Yeah, I don't know where, what ballot you're looking at.

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James is on my second on my list here. Okay. Maybe I just missed his name.

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No, Tyree Smasty, Kobe White PERSON,

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Shangoon got third,

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Jalen Williams got four and Brunson got five.

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I mean, and it was close with Kobe White PERSON as it should be. Like, he had a pretty compelling argument as well. And really his, you know, show out game,if you will, was the play in against Atlanta. Like, he was so crucial with Chicago winning there. Stats don't count. Well, yeah. And really his showout game, if you will, was to play in against Atlanta. Like, he was so crucial with Chicago ORG winning there. Stas don't count.

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You're right.

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They exist in that weird vacuum.

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But no, I mean, listen, man, Tyrese has just continued to get better every single year.

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He's averaging five more points on the season than he was last year. His assists are up by three.

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His rebounds are up by one.

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You know, efficiency is up. Like, look, it's hard to under like sell or I'm trying not to

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undersell like how much Tyrese Maxie has saved the Sixers ORG franchise. Like I firmly blew Eve Joelle Embed PERSON is not here. He basically has made it so that Ben Simmons not developing and James Harden not working out and all these other just ridiculous things that have happened to the Sixers ORG over the yearnot matter. And I mean, Joel said it in one of these post game interviews. It's like with all the drama and just nonsense that surrounded this team in the past five, six, seven, eight years, Tyrese has just been the most likable guy on the planet.

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Like he shows up to work every day. He gets better. He's always got a smile on his face. All his teammates love him. And he's a dog. Like I don't want all that to say he's a dog on the court too.Like you're, you know, you talk about the first player. I know Embed at 50 last night, but like there have been large portions of this Sixers Nick series where Tyrese Maxie's been the best player. I know M. Bede had 50 last night, but there have been large portions of the Sixers' Knicks ORG series where Tyrese Maxie's been the best player on the floor. I mean, and the fact that the Sixers got him at 21,like just an absolute blessing for this franchise that has kept their window open when it probably would have been closed otherwise. Like, he's the dude. Like he's no matter what happens. He's going to be hopefully a Sixer NORP for matter what happens. He's going to be hopefully asix or for a long time. He's going to get that max extension over the summer for sure,

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a five year max coming. And if you look at Maxi and Colby White's like per games for this season, they are very, very, very similar. Like Maxi PRODUCT edges them out a little bit and points and, you know, a few percentages here and there, but they're very, very close. So I agree with you and everything you've said about how he's essentially the bright spot in the franchise for the 76ers ORG right now.And I got friends that are up there that are like die hard maxi fans. I remember when there was talk about potentially using him as a trade last year. And I was kind of like, maybe you got to do it. And they're like, don't do it. I'm like, okay. But like, you know, if it lands you somebody, you might have to do it.

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And looking back, that's a good call. They didn't. Yeah. Where would this franchise be if they moved

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in for Dane Lillard PERSON or insert other superstar here that's been rumored a little bit? And like, look, that was a valid consideration for a number of people. Like, it's, it is a superstar caliber of player that

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you're playing for, but you're right. Like, Max, he's been just a gem since day one, um, even his rookie year. Like, I go back to those playoffs where he didn't play a ton of minutes. And that to me, when I, when I look at what's most improved, like, he always had the athleticism and the quickness. It's the shot. Like the shot has become so much more lethal. Like we knew he had a good floater. He kind of developed that early, but that's step back three. And credit to Hardin PERSON. Like he spent, you know, all this timein the gym with Hardin PERSON and really, you know, just mastered that move. And it's made a world of

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difference. I love Tyrese maxi, man. Like, what else am I supposed to say? Like, he's just, he's an absolute joy in my sports fanhood. And I am thrilled that he won this award.

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From a 30% a three point percentage in his rookie season to, it doesn't tell the full story, but a 37% three point percentage this year from attempts at 1.7 a game to 8.1 a game. Like, it's that's so impressive, the effective field goal percentage and everything really going up. You would think, you know, there was a dip at least this year compared to last year, but again, the attempts have skyrocketed. Minutes have gone up, like, so you expect that part to happen. And what happens with most improved players a lot of the times is you do seetheir minutes increase significantly, which is what happened. So no surprise there. Yeah, I mean, he got asked to

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take on and be a franchise type player. And now when you look at, you know, the Sixers ORG with Embed and with Maxi PRODUCT, it is just like you fill out the rest of that roster. You're going to have a chance every single year. And that's just, but again, it's his development has really changed everything about this franchise.

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And we can save the conversation for later. There is still some growth to be done there. Okay.

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We'll save that for later.

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Just observations from Nick's 76ers ORG game.

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Okay, all right. Well, good day.

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Well, in that case, we'll move over to sixth man of the year real quick. And this was probably the closest award, honestly. Nazreed just holding off Malik Monk, you know, Reed had 352 total points. Monk had 342. Bobby Portis was in third. Norm Powell in four, Bogdan Bogdanovich in fifth.And this is close. Like it is. Like with Monk who was phenomenal this year, again, off the bench, 15.4 points, 5.1 assists. Those are both career highs like Sacramento won a whole bunch of games this year. But at the same time, you know, Nas Reided was a huge part of Minnesota ORG, you know, career high 13 and a half points, 5.2 rebounds like coming off the bench in Minnesota ORG, you talk about this being one of their best seasons in franchise history. I, it's really close.Like, if Monk had won this award, I wouldn't really feel upset about it. But I don't really feel upset about Nas Reid winning it too because the Timberwolves ORG were good. Like that's the thing. He was a huge, you know, he was clearly their best player off the bench on one of the best teams in the NBA ORG. Well, and I think maybe a little bit of the,maybe not recency bias, but Monk got hurt. You know, the MCL spring towards the end of the season, kind of kept him out a little bit. And maybe that's a little of where that conversation goes. But yeah, I think both these guys were very deserving.And again, Nasree being, you know, the six man on one of the best teams in the West LOC, who was literally in contention for the number one seed until the very last game in the season. Like, that goes a long way.

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He's in some pretty good company here, too, with being undrafted. He's the third undrafted player to win sixth May of the Year award. The other two to do it were John Starks back in 1997 and Darrell Armstrong in 1999, that from ESPN ORG. But, yeah, like, that's, both of them had long, successful NBA ORG careers. Again, we're going to dive into Wolves way more as we talk about that series in Phoenix ORG,because I'm so impressed with Minnesota ORG and everything they've done so far in the playoffs. But yeah, Nasree PERSON, got to give it up to him.

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Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. And then the last, we alluded to it, I think, at the beginning, but Steph Curry PERSON.

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What was a, what are you pointing for? What was the?

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That was I called it. But we can revisit that during Sun's Timberwolves ORG.

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Oh, okay. All right. Okay. I thought something bombed. I was like, wait a minute. Do we got like a... I was there a woge bomb? Did something come down here?

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No, that's just me being like, I knew that. I saw that one coming. I knew it. I knew it.

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No, listen, I respect you. We'll call your shot there in a little bit. But yeah, let's get back into a clutch player of the year award. Steph Curry, he just held off Damar de Rosen PERSON here. Who was in third place for that one? You got that in front of you?

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DeRosin SGA, number two, who had 160 votes.

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And then Yokic got fourth, Brunson got fifth. Well, so I was kind of at first. I was like, did Steph PERSON really deserve this? Or is this like kind of a legacy pick? And then I saw the montage that the NBA ORG put out with it. And I was like, okay, never mind.

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I was like, stepping a lot of these shots.

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Like the Warriors ORG ended up losing a lot of these games and that's why it gets lost

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where I'm like, oh, man, it's almost comical. It's like, you wasted these curry shots like that. That that's crazy I would have thought like off the top of my head this year I would have maybe thought SGA ORG would win it um I don't know I just feel like I have memories of of him carrying a lot of late games I know he's a few buzzer beaters and I'll be honest

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before looking at this if you told me to guess who number two on this list was, I promise you, DeMar Rosen would not have been in my first five guesses, probably.

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Oh, that's wild. See, I think you would be, I mean, I get it, though. The Bulls ORG aren't very good.

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Right. And I think that's probably, like a late game player, which is funny because I think most of us didn't for a long time. I mean, when, you know, Toronto, when Toronto was Lebronto, it was just like one of those things where what are you going to do?But, I mean, in that one play in game last year, he was really clutch when his daughter was yelling at the free throw all the time.

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Oh, God, I remember that.

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That was a fun game. But yeah, either way, I can understand that. Yokes, too, just because, I mean, when you look at Denver's fourth quarter efficiency, like Yokic PERSON is obviously the motor to that offense. And so I just kind of associate, I mean, he doesn't have those buzzer beaters, but he kind of does a little bit.I don't know. I think maybe he should have been up the list a little higher. But again, this real sold me on Steph PERSON a little more than I.

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Well, and if you, yeah, if you really just want to look at it, the

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you know, the, the numbers of

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clutch scoring numbers, I mean, uh, Curry was, uh, at a hundred and eighty-nine, which was seven more than DeRosen and SGA ORG had a hundred and twelve points in those clutch moments, which was seventh most in the league.So like, I mean, I guess if you're going to boil it down to one stat, you know, that's probably where Curry PERSON can have the best argument.

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Yeah, I mean, like he said, you know, numbers don't lie, something like that. Welcome everybody to the driving dish NBA ORG podcast. My name is Kevin Ray Fuse PERSON. Joining me as always, my co-host, Justin Kuzart PERSON.

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I literally fumbled the bag and forgot to get an NBA ORG tweet.

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All right. So there we are. Let me see if I have anything in front of me real quick. We'd see if we can refresh something real quick. There's a report.I saw this. The NBA ORG is apparently reached an agreement with Amazon Prime ORG to host regular season and playoff games for the next 10 years.

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Yes, I actually jotted that down as my ball in.

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Oh, whoops. You mean, take that away. We can expand on that.

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We'll come back to it. Well, I mean, or I could just go pivot. We'll find something different for ball.

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This is what happens. This is what happens.

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You try to do something last minute, step right on your toe on your toe oh here we go here's a different one joan howard is a degree to join the brooklyn nets as an assistant coach um he was the heat assistant obviously for six years and then he was at michigan so you know back on the sideline i know you know didn't kind of work out it at university of michigan the way they wanted to but

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good for them i mean i mean yeah good to get another gig and see where it goes.

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You know, it's one of those things to just prove yourself again.

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So we start out in the east for our playoff recap. Just a quick overview. The series is tied as of recording this podcast for the Celtics and Heat ORG. The magic are one back from the calves. Cavs lead at two to one in that series. Bucks Pacers is tied at one and the Sixers are one back.The Knicks lead that series two to one. Where would you like to dive in first?

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Let's just dive into Sixers, Knicks ORG. Like, look, everyone knows why we're here. Like, let's do it. There's a lot to talk about. Like, we don't need to leave the people waiting for a while. Sure.And obviously, there's a zillion angles to talk about. You mentioned early in warm-up jumpers that the Knicks looked better in game one EVENT because they were better in game one. Like the Knicks ORG dominated the offensive boards. Like the energy was way higher in game one. And you got to give them credit.Like that was one of those games. Like Josh Hart especially hit like two or three, three-pointers in the third in the fourth quarter, I should say,

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where you just got to throw your hands up and just go, all right, what are you going to do? And now I will say Josh Hart PERSON has now apparently done this entire series. Like he's got three games with making over four three-pointers a game. Like he's done that every one of these games so far. He can do that a single time in the regular season.

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And not only that, Brunson PERSON did not have a good game, which is like, dang, you got to capitalize if he's not doing good. No, and I mean, that's kind of been the story so far, right?

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Like, the Sixers overall have done a pretty good job on Brunson. Brunson was great in game three. And I think that's where you still feel good if you're the Sixers ORG. It's like, look, Brunson finally had a Jalen Brunson game, but it didn't matter because Embedde had 50 and then Maxie had another pretty phenomenal game as well. Look, like, full disclosure, and let's just get this out of the way too. I absolutely think they got host in game too by the officials. There's no way around it.That two minute report is a mess. Maxi PRODUCT is getting mugged on the inbound. Like his jersey, there's pictures of his jersey getting ripped off. And then on top of Nick Nurse is calling timeout like three separate times. At the same time, you shouldn't have been in that situation.

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That's exactly where I was going. Out of that situation. Like, all the time out before the inbound. Like, why?I'm more upset about the Maxi PRODUCT non-Callby's Maxi's getting moored.

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Like you guys got to call that in that moment. With everything else they've called

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ticky tack that game.

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And, you know,

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I agree.

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Physical.

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Like, this has been a very 90s-esque basketball series.

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I agree.

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I mean, Embed PERSON didn't have a rebound for very long time in the second half of that game. And really, like, like there was a point in game to,probably the second half of the game, where I was like, this borderline feels like malpractice that he's out here and just hobbling along, man. Like, at some point it's like this guy has to live a life after basketball. And like, I as a Sixers fan want him out there because even hobbled, he's still putting up 30 point games. But like, dude, it looks he, it looks so bad.

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His comments last night were, and I mean, you got to, I know this is not what Nick PERSON's fan's here right now, but you got to respect it because he wants to be out there.

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Like, with what he's playing through with the knee injury, with having freaking Bell PERSON's palsy,

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like, what even is that?

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So Bell PERSON's palsy is like, and again, I am not a doctor.

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But you're a lawyer. No, I'm not a lawyer yet either. I'm close. We're almost there, but I am not a doctor. But you're a lawyer. No, I'm not a lawyer yet either. I'm close. We're almost there. But I am not a lawyer yet. Don't ask me for legal advice.I'm not giving it to you. Your face gets paralyzed, essentially. And in this case, thankfully, it's temporary. There's only been three cases that have been in the NBA ORG, which of course, M.P.

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This guy just can't catch a break. One of them recently was Zach Randolph PERSON. So there is like a pretty modern precedent for this. And it'll more than likely go away. But like with his eye being droopy and kind of rolling up with his lip and cheek going down, like it's because it's literally the side of his face is paralyzed right now more or less. He said it happened before the Miami ORG play in game even. So the fact that he's been kind of justslugging through this the whole time is crazy. And I noticed it in game one. So the fact that he's been kind of just slugging through this the whole time is crazy.

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And I noticed it in game one. There was a point where he was like either fouled walking to the free throw line or something. And it looked like his like left eye was the only one that blinked. And I was like, what the heck was that?

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And game three was so many things. I mean, because on one hand it was. It was finally the MB playoff masterpiece. And it was funny because like I had blown out two texts that night going, man, are we going to start saying that Maxi's better than Embed PERSON? And then Embed PERSON just totally took over.I mean, totally, put the team on his back in a must win game.

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Because obviously, if they go down three, nothing, it's over.

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Like, they're not digging out of that hole. So let me take it back to game two. Okay.

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Again, I understand Maxie PERSON was mugged.

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All that aside, there was a point, probably minute, two minutes left where I think I tweeted it out. I'm sure everyone else was thinking the same thing. I was like, if we're going to win this game, Maxie PERSON has to do it. It is not Joelle Embed PERSON.

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And he did. Yeah.

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But that, like, when he got mugged, again, should have been called. It definitely felt like he was a little panicky, a little jumpy, yippy, whatever you want to call it. There was a little bit of like his youngness is showing a little bit. And that's what I was alluding to earlier.

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There's still some growth to happen. I guess. And I feel like he already knew that by game three.

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Like when he was talking about it, he, you know, I do respect that he didn't throw the officials under the bus or try to take any.

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Well, I, he's a leader on this team. Like, you have to respect that. And the way he, again, that's talk about the most improved player. Like, that's another area of his growth that's been so huge too. And I'll say I did. I understand the complaints about the refs. I understand everything and why you would do it.

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It's been a bloodbath, dude.

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Yeah.

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And I am not the type to complain about NBA ORG officiating. But I'm going to complain about NBA ORG officiating. Not just the end of game two. That game three brew like the whole Mitch Robinson PERSON thing. Like everyone who says MB should have got thrown out of that game is probably right. If Mitch Robinson PERSON thing like everyone who says M.B PERSON should have got thrown out of that game is probably right.If it's a regular season game, he's for sure getting tossed. Like he got the flagrant one. It's pretty close to a flagrant two. Like that was some like it's dirty man. And I know he was frustrated because he because he was trying to draw the foul on OG. And I like dude, you pulled the seven footer down by the ankle.

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Like there's really no way to spin that.

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I think to be quite honest, if the Sixers win game two and there's not an officiating controversy around it and it's a one one series, I think he probably gets tossed in that game three. I think they didn't want to because like, look, if he's tossed there, that series is over. Like I think the next win that game three. I think they didn't want to, because like, look, if he's tossed there, that series is over. Like,

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I think the next win that game then pretty comfortably. Like, we've seen all regular season,

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really, in the third quarter and the fourth quarter of the regular season, like what this team looks like without Joelle Embed PERSON?I mean, hell, what's the ultimate microcosm? Like, what are our numbers when M.M. Bid's not on the floor in this series. Like, it's been an all-time classic Sixers ORG tale. So I think it would have played out differently. I don't know if he gets suspended for Game 4 EVENT.I don't see it happening. Maybe he gets fined. But, yeah, that's not one for the highlight real. Like, I'm not even going to remotely try to defend that. Like, I know M.B. did the whole, you know, well, Kaminga PERSON fell on me, which is valid. Like it didn't.Kaminga PERSON fell on his knee and heard it. Like that was one of the big reasons.

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But I'm like, Joelle, come on, man.

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Like you're kind of telling me not to bleed my own eyes a little bit. But again, I think it's just, it's a lot of frustration. Like I'm not, I'm not giving that as an excuse, but I'm saying, I get it. The officiating has been a mess. And the Knicks ORG also love, like, this is what they do. It's chaos.Like, the Knicks ORG love this chaos ball. And I'm not even saying that as an insult. I'm saying this is how they beat you. Like, they just throw their depth at you. Like, they fight for every loose possession. They could crash the offensive board.Like, not just Josh Hart PERSON. It's been all of them. It's been Mitch Robinson PERSON.

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Hardinstein PERSON. Like, these guys get himself paid, by the way. Yeah. it's been all of them. It's been Mitch Robinson. Hardinstein PERSON. Like, those got himself paid by the way.

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Yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure.

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Hardinstein PERSON's going to bag.

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Like, OG Annan Nubi PERSON's been, this is what they brought him in here for. And part of that is, I guess my frustration with the Sixers is like the Knicks ORG were so aggressive at the deadline and going after and, you know, they get in Bogdanovich PERSON and getting Birx PERSON. Like they really just locked in their depth. And, you know, Bogdanovich PERSON just hit a few clutch shots for them during this series. Man, the Sixers ORG deadline looks real bad right now. And part of it isBuddy Healed just being a complete non-factor. Like Buddy Healed has been a zero in this series. And that does look bad. Like, because that was their main deadline acquisition. Now, in game three, I think the Sixers ORG kind of figured something out by giving campaign minutes, because I thought campaign was phenomenal.And I mean, campaign is a guy who's been on multiple long playoff runs, most notably with the Sons when they made the finals a few years ago. So, you know, credit to Nick Nurse PERSON for adjusting. It's a weird series because I think you've got to feel good if you're both teams. Like the Knicks ORG are up right now.Like if you win game four and you're the Knicks, you feel really good about up 3-1 with two more at the garden, an absolute worst-case scenario. I think if you're the Sixers ORG, you also go, hey, pending an all-time meltdown, we're up to one in this series. Like, we kind of thoroughly put it away at the end of game three. You know, you got to, you still got to go out and win on your home floor. But if you win game four onyour home floor, you're going back to the garden. And at that point, it does feel like the pressure shifted a little bit towards the Knicks ORG. And unfortunately, like, again, I'm not remotely celebrating this play. You do got to watch, you know, now with Mitch Robinson's PERSON ankle. Like, he was walking out of the arena in a boot, you know, give precious Hesua PERSON a lot of credit. I thought he honestly played pretty admirable against Embed being called in due to Hardinstein PERSON foul trouble and with Mitch PERSON's injury. You know, but that's, you know, Mitch has done a really good job onEmbed PERSON this series. That would be a pretty big loss for them if he can't go. It's, it's worth

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mentioning that Embed's percentages in game one, two, and three from inside the paint and outside the paint. Outside shooting in game one, he was at 23%. He was three for 13. Game two, a little bit better, eight for 17 outside the paint. But to that story, inside the paint was horrendous.Four for 11, 36%. now you get to game 3 Embed was 10 for 13 outside the paint 76.9 almost 77% and about 50% inside the paint so you know I obviously again he did put up 50 points so there's they gotta come from somewhere but I don't know. Part of me is like, yo, that's a lot of outside the paint shooting for Joel and Bede PERSON. I'd probably rather than be banging down low a

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little bit more. And I know he could shoot the three. But I know. I know.

Speaker 51719.44s - 1735.04s

He's been killed out there. But you're right. And that's what I'm alluding to. Yeah. Get him outside of the paint. Yep. So, you know, just an interesting little stat're right. And that's what I'm alluding to. Yeah. Get him outside of the bank. Yep. So, you know, just an interesting little stat to see. And, you know, again, game three, he, I don't know how you step up for the six. Yeah.

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You're right.

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It's got to be. And, you know what? Like said, give campaign a lot of credit. I think he was absolutely huge for them besides M.B., those minutes off the bench, like they needed somebody.

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And those 11 off the bench were huge. I thought Ubrae was better in game three, which because he's been in, I mean, he was nowhere to be found offensively in the first two games.

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He gave them 15 there. You know, Lowry PERSON's doing all the dirty work. Like, I appreciate what Kyle Lowry PERSON's been doing this series. Like, he's giving you what you need to do.

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Tobias Harris PERSON is a broken record at this point.

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Like, I don't really know what, like I just don't want to keep harbing on it. He's giving you what you need to do. Tobias Harris PERSON is a broken record at this point. Like I don't really know what, like I just don't want to keep harping on it. Like Tobias PERSON has had a few good defensive moments, but like for what he's giving you offensively and for how much money he's making that sapped you your other depth. Like he's just, you've already accepted that he's never going to step up in a big moment. And that's the problem. Like you hope Melton PERSON gets a little healthier. Like it was good to see him back in the lineup in gamethree. But I mean, that's a back injury that's kind of been lingering most of the time, right? Like, he didn't, you know, he was on the bench. Like, I know he was active, but he didn't get back in the lineup yet. That'd be a huge boost if he could go, like that, especially defensively. Like, they need Melton defensively, you know, out on Josh Hart, out on Brunson PERSON, just another body to throw at him. Well, I don't know.

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And to your Kyle Lowry PERSON comment, I agree.

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He's been great.

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There is a level of, it goes back to the exact moment we said shouldn't have happened because there was a foul and all that stuff. Inbounding the ball to Maxi PRODUCT in the corner while he's double covered is malpractice. Like that is ugly. Sure, he got fouled.

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I know.

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I know.

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I know. He misses the free throw.

Speaker 51836.16s - 1861.18s

I know. Then it's the Knicks aren't up one at that point. The Dante PERSON shot, it's a tie game. Yeah. Obviously, I agree. A brutal collapse, but at least you're maybe fighting in overtime then.I agree. It just in the corner, it's like, where was he going to even go if he wasn't found? Like, you know, like it's, it was when I saw him pass it in, I went, oh, no, like, why would you do that? That's like the one spot you don't inbound the ball to ever, especially when there's,

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there's coverage like that. I mean, for the mix, though, you're getting contributions for the most, like, you know, Deuce McBride PERSON was a killer in game one, like he was the big X factor there. I mean, Josh Hart PERSON's obviously that consistency. And I mean, it's changed how they've had to completely guard him. Like Josh Hart, you were very content in game one EVENT letting take those shots.It's reached a point.

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They were sagging off him.

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They were like, it was a whole thing. He was shooting 30% all year. But at some point, you just got to accept that he's knocking him down. And he is clearly right now. Like Josh Hart is shooting out of his mind. I think you feel good if you're the Sixers ORG. Because again, Brunson had a 39 point performance in game three. Like that was his, you know, they were all over him in game one and two. He was pretty inefficient. Like he was really good in game three.The Knicks are getting what they need to out of Vinobi and Hart &stein. And I think Dante DiVinchenzo PERSON has been way more than bad. He had a little bit of a stinker in game three. Did have one awesome poster dunk, but for the most part, you know, only five points. They just have more options. You know what I mean?Like, you can expect somebody on the bench to step up. The big thing for them to watch now is Mitch PERSON's health. Like game four at the end of the day, like the Knicks ORG worst case scenario is going back to the garden two to two at a place where you've already won two games so far. Sixers, if you're two, two, you still got to feel pretty good going, hey, we probably should have won three out of these four games. Like game one, Knicks ORG absolutely deserved that.They played way better than the Sixers ORG.

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Game two, again,

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a big meltdown,

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like in all time. That would be a generational meltdown for so many other franchises. And for me, I'm just like, what is this like your first rodeo? I know,

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dude. I was like,

Speaker 01960.52s - 1970.38s

it didn't even, it didn't even, like the Hawks series alone in 2021 had probably two or three more losses than that Knicks ORG game. Like the Kauai LOC shot. Yep. There's so many others.

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Well, and I go back to Austin game six last year. Like there are so many worse Sixers ORG losses. And I, and I still feel like, again, Joel and Bid PERSON literally could not jump, could not get a rebound. If he could, if he had any semblance of a knee in that situation, he probably grabbed some of those rebounds.

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And DeVincenzo doesn't get two, three shots at it, you know? I know Embed PERSON is emotional at this point. I love the guy, but like he does. Like that was really bad playing with fire. Like he very many, many people can argue that he should have been thrown out of that game.

Speaker 42007.02s - 2014.06s

And it is. Like that's the series. Like I get you're frustrated and he was trying to get, you know, he was trying to fight with him all night. Like yeah.

Speaker 02014.1s - 2028.54s

I respected Embed PERSON's confidence in body language, but I do, you got to watch it. Like there is a line. I get that you're trying to, you know, it's one of my favorite playoff terms. Like I know you're trying to shit house. But like the Knicks ORG also like shit housing is the Knicks ORG brand.

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Like that's what they're done all season. It's why it's worked.

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You know, we'll see what game four is the series. Like game three was the series. Like we'd be talking about this like a funeral if the Sixers ORG had lost that game. Game four is also the series. Like if the Knicks go up three one, the Sixers aren't beaten them three straight. Like I just don't see that happening.

Speaker 52045.9s - 2056.34s

I even now still don't feel like the Sixers ORG have it. I don't have enough confidence. I am ready to say the Knicks ORG are going to get this series, but we'll see.

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I think if the Sixers win game four, then I think ball game on.

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Like, I know two are in MSG FAC, but I think at that point, I still feel pretty good about

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the way they played overall. Okay. We'll see. Like they, like I said, though, that flips real quick if they lose game four. The next one I want to test your level competence on, and we'll have game three is later tonight. So as of recording this, but Boston and Miami is one-one. And Boston thoroughly dominated game one as most people would expect Miami who again is playing without Jimmy Butler PERSON right now go then goes out and you know franchise record in three-pointers made I mean bam out of bio phenomenal Tyler hero phenomenaland just what a culture win like I guess that that's's the, you know, the heat culture, right? Like, that's an ultimate culture win there for Spow PERSON to get that game. And look, we know Jimmy PERSON is not coming back. But if you're Boston ORG, what do you feel like after that game? Because against a team who you are so clearly better than. And this year without Jimmy, there's really no excuse against Miami ORG.Are you worried when you got, for the most part, pretty great games too out of Taylm PERSON. I don't, I don't, Claim,combining them both. Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown. I don't,

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I don't think you're worried. I think the word is you're embarrassed. You're like, what the hell are we doing? Let's lock it. If anything,this is that like, hey, stupid, wake up game. You know what I mean? Like, you guys have the better players. You have the better team, clearly record-wise. Just go out and close it out. Don't play with your food, you know?And so I'm not worried. I don't think they're worried. I think it's used as a wake-up game. Because again, yes, Tyler Hero, Caleb Martin, Bam PERSON, they all played great. But, you know, you got 24, 21, 21, 11, and 14 points out of your starting five. After that, it's like, I mean, there's just not much help after that.So just, just essentially, if you're the Celtics ORG, just run them into the ground at that point.

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Yeah, listen, I'm not worried about Boston losing the series to Miami ORG. Right.

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I'm nowhere near that level of panic or, and Boston is still to me the overwhelming favorite to win the Eastern Conference ORG.

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100%.

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Prisigas PERSON was terrible. He won a nine, six points. Drew Holiday only had nine. Derek White efficient, but only 13. It's not now that I'm worried about, though. It's if I'm Boston ORG and I'm so thoroughly trying to close the narrative and get over the hump,

Speaker 32224.04s - 2227.32s

I do not like that I'm losing first round games.

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That's fair.

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I get to Miami team without Jimmy Butler PERSON.

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Because what's going to happen if I get Denver ORG?

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Because Denver ORG ain't letting you play.

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Sure.

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Sure.

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And I agree.

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But I guess my point is the Celtics ORG win this game. They are either playing the Cavaliers ORG or the magic. Oh, no.

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Justin PERSON, I get it. They have all the reason to run the gauntlet.

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They're not worried.

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Yeah, I'm not concerned about them.

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Though, if you're the Celtics and the Knicks do beat the 76ers ORG and you go, all right,

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maybe we don't want to play them down the line because they just took out the team that we perceived as the biggest problem for us with Joelle and Bede PERSON potentially. I mean, the bucks, I'm not trying to overlook the Bucs or the Pacers ORG or anything, but I think if you're the Celticsand you end up having to play the Knicks in the conference finals EVENT, you are a little worried about it. I think no one should want to play the Knicks just because the Knicks ORG are a terror to play against. Like they are.

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And they are playing. A lot of energy. It's a lot of effort. They Like they are. And they are playing. A lot of energy. It's a lot of effort. They play well together. And they're playing the style of basketball that kind of, in my mind, at least resembles a little bit of what Jimmy Butler in the heat were bringing last year.That just punch you right in the nose and you're going to punch us right back. But guess what? We're not going to be phased and we're going to hit you again.

Speaker 02302.04s - 2316.68s

You know, it does feel like that's what's going to happen. Whoever comes out of Nick Sixers is clearly to me the second best team in the Eastern Conference, given Jimmy injury and given Yonest PERSON injury, really.

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I mean, Janice is going to miss game three later tonight and we'll talk.

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We'll get there in a second. But yeah, I mean, that's just my biggest thing with Boston ORG, I guess, is it's like, look, they're overwhelming Eastern Conference ORG favorites. Like, they still very well can get to the finals. But it's like, look, whether you get Denver, whether you get Minnesota ORG, like one of these teams, and a little bit of preview where we're going, I think, at the Western Conference.But like, you're just not going to be able to mess around against them like that. And that's kind of my worries. It's like Boston is always this heavily favored team that dominates the regular season. But it's like these past few playoffs there have been these weird like, you know, goofs a little bit. And this is kind of one of those goofs.They should not be losing. And again, I know Spow PERSON is the best coach in the league, but they should not be losing games to Miami ORG.

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And I know it took a franchise record. Like I'm not trying to downplay any of that, but they just shouldn't be losing these games. And that's kind of my point.

Speaker 52369.06s - 2383.92s

Well, and you, again, you alluded to it. You look at two teams that aren't playing with their food. And those two teams are riding high, and flying in it's a bummer that they're going to have to play in the conference semifinals. But we'll get to the West LOC later on in the episode.

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For Buck's Pacers, I mean, obviously, it's just all about Janus PERSON's health right now, and he's not going to play in game three. Bucks win game one. Dame Lillard, just an absolute scorcher in the first half, 35 points, somehow finished with 35 points, then it didn't have any in the second half, which is crazy. But, yeah, Buck's pretty comfortably winning game one.Pacers, though, bouncing back, you know, pretty comfortably winning game two. The MVP of this series so far to me is Pascal Seacom PERSON. Like, Pascal Seacom PERSON has been having his way in both of these games.

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And I mean, that's, again, where you're missing Janus PERSON. Like, I know they got Brooke Lopez, you got Bobby Portis as well, guys that have been here before. But he's really had their way down there. I don't know.

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Like, this is still, the Bucks can win this series still, even without Yonnas PERSON. But again, this is more of a 50-50 toss-up, and you're going back to Indy GPE. Like, I feel good if I'm the Pacers ORG. Like, I got what I needed out of Milwaukee GPE, you know, on your home court now. You know the field house is going to be buzzing. I don't know.Like I said Indy in this series in six. Like I still feel good about that prediction just because even if Yonis PERSON comes back, like, I don't know what we're getting. Like we're not we're not getting prime Yonis PERSON with that calf strain right now. Like that is the injury that's going to linger.

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I don't know.

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I got to feel pretty good about the Pacers going into tonight.

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Well, and you talk about Pascal Seac PERSON.

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I mean, you know, you look at player, you look at point totals for the playoffs right now. And I'm pretty much going to say Pascal's leading the pack. Yeah. It's, again, it looks funky because some teams have played three and some have played two. But Pascal's number eight on this list.And the first one out of all the players that have played two, but Pascal's number eight on this list, and the first one out of all the players that have played two games, he's got 73 points. Like, Paul O'Bankaro PERSON, who's played three games, has 76. You know, like, Pascal's cooking. I guess is what I'm trying to say. Like, Yokic has 83 and has a whole extra game over Pascal Seahakum PERSON. So, yeah, you got to find an answer for it, but without Janus PERSON being healthy, you know, there is that question mark. I still think Dame PERSON can can do it.He has the experience to do it. So now it's time to show that skill, essentially. Yeah.

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And I mean, really, it's just about locking down on defense, right? Like, and some of the Pacers, I mean, give Miles Turner a lot of credit to in game two. Like, he was much, much better. You know, the numbers kind of look the same, but the efficiency was just way up. But, you know, again, Siakam PERSON, give him credit. Like, you just took over there.Their energy felt higher in game two. You know, Seacum PERSON is all over the boards as well. Like, it's not just the scoring, you know, multiple over 10 rebound games here. I don't know. Like, Milwaukee GPE's been leaky. The entire second half of the season.I don't know.

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And you kind of got what you need after game early on in that game, right?

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Like in game two, like Dame PERSON was going crazy. They just didn't like late in the game. dame's not going i don't know like chris middleton was extremely pedestrian he only had 15 points like brookelopez he got 22 like you was brook lobes six or seven from three in this game but i don't know it's just your depth isn't as dependable if you're milwaukee

Speaker 52580.82s - 2590.36s

yeah yeah i agree well and you, they have a very reliable coach that's really good at making rotations. So Doc Rivers PERSON should be, I'm not worried at all. Yeah,

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couldn't be less worried. Orlando Cleveland ORG, Cleveland pretty thoroughly dominated these first two games. And then Orlando ORG just gets back to Orlando and gives Cleveland ORG their worst playoff loss, or yeah,worst playoff loss in franchise history. An absolute beatdown and part of that i attribute to them with being back at home like a young team excited to be there um you got to give them credit uh for cleveland i still you know you feel pretty good about everything you know the story for me early on has been a little bit we talked about in the preview like i i think it's been cleveland on the interior has just had thatadvantage with Mobley and Jared Allen PERSON. The other story, too, just at least in the first two games, especially for Orlando ORG, is their guards weren't giving them anything.

Speaker 12633.92s - 2641.16s

Like, other than Bancaro, I mean, Markell faults, Gary Harris, Cole Anthony PERSON, just really, really struggling.

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Well, and it's worth mentioning, Gary PERSON, I think that I'm pretty sure I'm looking at the right one. Hold on me be sure. Yeah, even Gary PERSON Harris in their wins still didn't give them anything. Yeah. Oh, really struggling. Well, and it's worth mentioning Gary, I think that I'm pretty sure I'm looking at the right one. Hold on me sure. Yeah, even Gary Harris PERSON in their wins still didn't give them anything. Yeah.

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Oh, for three.

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Oh, for three for three for three for field goals in town. He made two free throws and two rebounds in 21 minutes. Yeah.

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Not great.

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Yeah.

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It's been forgettable. And look, man, Cleveland ORG just got smoked. Like, what are you going to do?

Speaker 52667.32s - 2675.88s

I mean, Donnell only had 13 points. Well, and I know Jaylen, I think it was Jaylen Suggs went down with an injury at one point. He seems to be okay. But there was a little worry about that.

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I think that was that was crazy.

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I thought his season was over. Like you went down non-contact. Like they were saying, oh, it's a sprain. So you're like, all right, well, that's good. And then he came out in the second half. Like, we were basically pronounced. It was the like it was a brutal moment because jalen sugs has been such a great story for the magic this year like his development in their second year has been a huge reason while they're here and so for them to be you know especially defensively that would have been such a huge loss for them um crazy that he's back out there um know, really got to give him a lot of credit on that one.

Speaker 42706.9s - 2716.62s

And he was phenomenal in game three. I mean, 24 points, 9 of 11 from the field. You know, Ben-Caro was the big story with 31 points. Franz was solid. Yeah, I mean, they need more.

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And 14 rebounds, don't forget.

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Big Harrow, 14 rebounds, too. Yes, absolutely. And like you said, in that interior battle, they're going to need it.

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But they did a good job. I mean, the rest of the Cavs guys are pretty, you know, Mowgli and Garland were real average. You know, the series, I don't remember who said this, but the series really begins when somebody wins one on the road. And that's what Cleveland's going to be trying to do here now. Again, you know, you got to figure the energy in Orlando was really high, too, just like their first. I don't want to say their first meaningful playoff game in a while, but like clearly there's way more excitement around this core and this young team than there's been in a while as well.

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So, I mean, good for Orlando ORG for defending their house and getting that win and making this a competitive series. Like Cleveland ORG for the most part had pretty thoroughly dominated this series.

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And so I think this tells us a big part of the story. Again, we've already talked about how Orlando ORG's really good at in the paint scoring, Cleveland ORG's pretty good at defensive in the paint. And so I was worried that Orlando ORG kind of played in perfectly to Cleveland ORG's defensive scheme.You look at the game that Orlando ORG won. They had almost 50 points in the paint. But they had 22 second chance points. So right there's already a glaring, oh, hey, there's a problem. And on top of it, Orlando ORG was getting out on the fast brakes. He had 22 compared to Cleveland's 11.So to me, it's like they were just pushing the pace. Again, could be an at-home thing. And the second the pace. Again, could be an at-home thing. And the second chance points, again, could be an at-home thing just with all the rebounding going on, the energy, all that. If Cleveland settles down a little bit and kind of brings those two things down, again, this was a massive win and a huge blowout.So I don't even know if that necessarily fixes the problem in this game. But going down the line, it might help. Blowouts are a gift and a curse, though, in some ways, right? Because I think if you're Cleveland ORG the problem in this game, but going down the line, it might, it might help.

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Blowouts are a gift and a curse, though, in some ways, right? Because I think if you're Cleveland ORG, you can just go, well, you know what? We just, like, everything went wrong.

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What are you going to do? And you can kind of just mentally chalk it out in a way.

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Like, I think there's something to be said sometimes about losing in a blowout that's

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way less depressing than it is if you lose one of those close games.

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Like you take a gut punch, like the six-ers-winning game, too, for example. Yeah. All right. Who's balling? Who's falling? Our NBA ORG version of the stock market.We always like to start with the good for the bad. And so balling for me this week is Zach Eady PERSON. Big man from Purdue ORG, obviously, who is, I guess, the big star of the, and that's, again, not a sub-exact, but more of the state of men's college basketball. But probably the big face for March Madness. Anyway, 7'4, he's going to be going in the NBA ORG draft.Not really expected to be a top pick, and I think there are a lot of people who rightfully are worried about his transition, because he plays like that old school post-up brand of basketball that just is not really really like big spread the floor now. Everybody knows that who watches the NBA ORG. But he also scored 37 points against Yukon and Yukon has a bunch of NBA ORG big. So that's kind of where it's like, well, okay, when he had finally a moment against NBA ORG talent, he kind of showed out a little bit.I think he's probably a late first rounder, but either way, like good for Zach PERSON.

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So Zach Cohen, who writes for Real GM, this was his final summary paragraph in his write-up about Zach Eadie PERSON.

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Eadie is going to be that guy that NBA ORG teams can trust to contribute in a big way.

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It'll just be extremely match-up dependent. The fact that he'll likely settle into a role, which he plays 20 or fewer minutes per night, makes it hard to argue he should be drafted in the lottery. Kind of exactly what you were saying. And I mean, obviously made a big name for himself in March Madness. And so he'll get drafted and contribute.But yes, you know, it's going to be interesting to see where he gets picked up in the NBA ORG.

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All right. Who's ball in for you this week ball in for me is well not the fact that NBA and Amazon Prime Video ORG have framework for an agreement that

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they will make this or one of the homes for it's that blowing for us anyway like you kind of stinks

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as consumers potentially I mean I don't know I got Amazon Prime video already so why but like it's one of those like MLB's got Apple ORG games yeah I mean, I don't know. I got Amazon Prime video already. So why, but like it's one of those like MLB's got Apple games.

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Yeah.

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I mean, like NFL ORG has that too.

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Or it's like if you don't have that and you're paid for cable, that kind of stinks. Yeah, but not for me. So I'm cool with it. Jesus.

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My actual ball in is going to be the savagery in the NBA ORG about this anonymous NBA player's poll.

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Okay.

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We'll just talk about a few of them.

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Voted MVP, Yokic got it by 41% over SGA, who was voted that at 36%.

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Luca PERSON comes in right after that. In terms of Best Defender, I thought was pretty interesting because obviously Drew Hollidays PERSON pretty widely regarded as one of the better NBA ORG defenders.

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A newcomer is number one at the top.

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Out of 132 votes, Victor Wenemianama is now the best defender in the NBA ORG.

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That's crazy. And honestly, like, there's a pretty valid argument. Like, the way he's, I mean, that's where it's been, for all the alien things he's done

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on offense this year, like, that's where you look at it to and go, oh, wow. Like, we're in Trump PERSON. He got it. He got it by 50. He's at 15%. Drew Holiday was at 12.Lou Dort, Herb Jones, JD McDaniels PERSON. Rudy Goberr comes in at 6%. And then Alex Caruso PERSON, bam, you start working your way down the list.

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Yeah, all good choices, usual suspects.

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You're building a roster from scratch. Who are you going to sign first? Who do you think got the number one vote?

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Yokic PERSON.

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No.

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Oh, Luca PERSON?

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Victor Wembenyama PERSON.

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Oh, okay. Yeah, you know what? All right, I get it. Because it was age. Like, that's the thing.

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Yokich is a better player right now, and I guess that's three. Yokic is number two.

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Okay.

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Okay. Okay. Then Anthony Edwards is number three, which I think is very telling. I am mad at it. Well, which, yeah, we'll talk about him in a little bit. Last one, and this is where I land with the savagery, because this comes up a few different times,but this will be the one we talked about. Most overrated player. Who do you think are in the top five? Oh, top five, geez.

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A few of these names are relatively surprising.

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Is it Tobias Harris PERSON?

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Tobias Harris PERSON is not on this.

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No, I know. He's probably properly rated.

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The six years just overpaid him.

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Who do I think is overrated on this list?

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Is Donovan Mitchell PERSON on this list?

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Donovan Mitchell PERSON is not on this list. Number one's a very obvious one. The NBA ORG hates this guy. Oh, Rudy PERSON.

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Rudy Gobert PERSON is the most overrated player

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in the league at 13% number

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two. Jordan Pool, which I guess is a little bit of what we saw at least. Tray Young at number three.

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And then Dylan Brooks PERSON and James Harden are tied after that.

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Dylan Brooks PERSON, I don't think is overrated. Dylan Brooks PERSON, I think weirdly is probably underrated now. Brooks, I think weirdly, is probably underrated now. That one is kind of strange. Trey Young PERSON, we might be ready to have a discussion about. I'm not there yet, but I kind of get it with Trey Young PERSON.

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Interestingly enough on this list after that, just some notable names. Hallie PERSON's there. Carl Anthony Towns PERSON is there. Anthony Davis PERSON is there.

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Sabonis is there. Tatum is there. It's like, yo.

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I think it's relative to where you're standing is. I guess that's the beef. I mean, I don't know. I don't fully agree with some of them. Jordan Polby and number two is kind of crazy.

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By the way, by the way, just because we talk negative on the other side most underrated player derrick white PERSON and jelan

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williams both were tied for number one drew PERSON holiday was number three see i don't think drew's

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underrated any i don't either like i think he's on the list too and it's like no he's not

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yeah drew holiday was severely underrated at one point i don't think he's underrated anymore

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um who was the number one there again?

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They were tied. So it was Derek White and Jaylon Williams PERSON were most underrated.

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Yeah, Derek White PERSON.

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Derek White PERSON's borderline creeping into the, I don't know that he's underrated anymore

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because people properly rate him.

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But I absolutely, last few years for sure.

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Like Derek White PERSON's been a, like I said, he's a borderline all-star caliber player.

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And I think that would get looked at as like a sacrilegious statement. But it's not. I mean, he's a borderline all-star caliber player. And I think that would get looked at as like a sacrilegious statement. But it's not. I mean, he's been phenomenal. Just because we're here, I'm trying to find it because I was talking about this. Yeah, here he was. Which current coach, aside from your own, would you least want to play for?

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Oh, I saw this. Tibbs number one.

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Well, yeah.

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By far. Because everybody knows you're playing 48 minutes a night. And I get the whole like, hey, if you're soft and you don't want to play for? Oh, I saw this. Tibbs number one. Well, yeah. By far. Because everybody knows you're playing 48 minutes a night. And I get the whole like, hey, if you're soft and you don't want to play for Tibbs, I get it. I love the Josh Hart PERSON like, man, because Josh Hart kind of came out and defended him. And Tibbs PERSON is like, oh, he's trying to

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get more minutes as Josh Hart PERSON's playing like 48 minutes. And also, to be fair, Josh Hart isn't allowed to vote for him because he's his coach. So that's like he might have been voting for him.

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Listen, you've got to be in shape and you're playing a ton of minutes if you're a Tim starter. So, yeah, I can understand that if you are not a fan of playing heavy minutes, that that could get a little exhausting after a while.

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Number two on that list, Doc Rivers PERSON.

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Well, yeah, that's because Doc PERSON's going to lead you to disappointment. So I can completely understand that one. Yeah, so there you go.

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All right.

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Fallen for me this week is Kelly Ubre. And Kelly Ubrey apparently wrecked his Lamborghini after running a red light colliding with a Hyundai Alantra in Philadelphia GPE. You know, totaled his car. This was after, or excuse me, this is in New York GPE. So this was after the game two loss. And I guess my point is it's like, Kelly PERSON, I don't know.

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What are we doing? Get a driver, get a public, like, take public transportation. But it's like, my guy, he's been hit by a car this year. And now has totaled his Lamborghini in less than a calendar year.

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It's like, I don't know what, I don't know how we got to get calendar to the arena,

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but maybe we got to like, maybe we should find a different way. Yeah, I agree. It's like, bro, chill out. Maybe during the playoffs, you just sleep at the arenas. And then like when you need to go to New York GPE or, or transfer back and forth, let let Nick Nurse PERSON drive you or something.Like, I feel like Nick Nurse PERSON probably a good driver. So let's just let's just do that.

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Yeah, I listen to what somebody, please intervene here.

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Who's fallen for you this week? That was that was my falling, right? No, my fallen is Darvin Ham who made comments today as of recording this 426 on the Lakers ORG mood during their film session.

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He said guys are irritated, frustrated, and fed up. I mean, bro.

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Yeah.

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Like, you're down three nothing.

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And I mean, I guess that segues is right into the West LOC, right?

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Like the Lakers are down three nothing to the Nuggets ORG right now.

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They have lost to Denver, their last 11 matchups. And like, look, I thought Nuggets were pretty. They have lost to Denver ORG, their last 11 matchups. And like, look, I thought Nuggets ORG were pretty going to thoroughly win this series. It is just, man,

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when they lost that 20-point lead the other night and Jamal Murray PERSON hit that buzzer beater, it's just a different level of just drubbing right now. Like,

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the does thoroughly, I don't remember the last time a team so thoroughly dominated a single matchup.

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This game, that game specifically more than the Sixers ORG game, the complaining afterwards about the officiating is like such a defeatist attitude. And LeBron James also thrown a little side comment that the Sixers ORG Need Justice too was a little odd, but like, thanks.

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It's like, bro, I appreciate you.

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Right, but worry about your own damn game, bro.

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No, no, no, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hang on. If LeBron wants Tampa Russ ORG for no reason, by all means, please.

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It's because he's coming to the Sixers next year.

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I mean, realistically, he's going back to Miami ORG, but I don't know if we're all ready for that conversation yet.

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I'm just saying, man, like, like the complaining Anthony Davis one question walk off LeBron PERSON complain like

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they're defeated and they know it and everyone knows it like that's the thing.

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Do you know how frustrating it's got to be to lose 11 straight times of the single team and somebody said this is like the deal that the Lakers ORG made in the bubble to win the title. Because it's like you go, the last time that Lakers beat the nuggets and anything meaningful was that series when AD ORG hit the buzzer beater like falling out of bounds and the Lakers went on to win the title that year. But it's not like again, my pick in this series was Denver ORG and five. I thought Denver is the better team. But it's yeah, it's brutal.

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I don't really think it's Denver. I think Saturday, April 27th at 10 p.m., I guess is probably when the game went end. That it's over. I'm just saying, man, like, like, you got Anthony Davis PERSON.

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The game two loss was the one where I said, hey, like, it's at that point, like, that's a backbreaker.

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I think that's the game where if you're the Lakers ORG, you go, hey, we win that game.

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We're going back to L.A. We feel good. We hang our hat. We broke in the street. We finally got it off our back.

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It just didn't happen. Like, I think that's the Nuggets ORG saying, we got you. It's just, it's child's play for the Nuggets ORG right now.

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It's going to be 12 straight losses to the Nuggets ORG. And I think we are at seven straight losses to the Kings ORG, which is another like, what is going on here? Anthony Davis PERSON, you just can't handle these guys. I don't know, but yeah,man, I think some big changes are down the line for the Lakers ORG. Yeah,

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I think it goes out saying, I don't really know what they can do. And I guess that's part of the problem.

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Yeah. And it's not for lack of AD or the playoffs thing.

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And it's not for lack of AD or LeBron PERSON either. Like you've gotten more than what you needed out of them. But yeah, you got to feel frustrated to say the least. Other West series, I mean, Denver ORG in the, or not Denver, excuse me, Dallas and the Clippers are one one right now. And that was a little bit of a surprise because obviously we were real high on Dallasand give Dallas ORG credit for bouncing back. Luca excellent in the fourth quarter of game two. But the Clippers ORG, man, they came out to ball right away. James Hardin really, really great in game one. Zubach was great in game one. And that was without Kauai LOC.So I guess that was kind of where it was like, oh, boy, like that felt like a kind of a shoe in for Dallas ORG.

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Now the Clippers did get kawai PERSON back in game

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too and obviously moving forward that's huge but i think that you know a little bit i mean it

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really was only a three point game so maybe you even chalk it up to a little bit of kawai rust and

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if some of that rust is shaking off a little more maybe they don't have you know they don't

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uh win that game and now the the clippers are up to, oh, you know? Yeah. And I mean,

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I think there's, again, reasons, and it's easier to say in a one one scenario, but it's like, there's reasons to feel goodif you're both of these teams like Denver ORG.

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Again,

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I keep doing it,

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man. Denver ORG. Dallas ORG did not, it just feel like they weren't awake in that first game. And they got nothing off the bench either.Kyrie PERSON was pretty bad until late.

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But yeah, I mean, now you're going back home. Like, again, you got what you needed. You got that win on the road.

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Yeah, you feel pretty good about that.

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Luca PERSON's obviously been phenomenal. For the Clippers ORG, too, though, you got reasons to feel pretty good. Again, Zubach PERSON has been excellent in this series so far. You got Kauai LOC starting to ease back here a little bit. I don't know. This is going to be an interesting matchup the rest of the way.Like I'm staying with my Denver ORG prediction, but I don't know. This is a really, did I just really say Denver ORG again?

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I think you did. Is my brain completely broken at this point? You got Yokich on the mind, man. I think here's my little, like, quick rundown. The Mavericks three-point shooting in game one was 30%. In game two is 42%.In game one, the Clippers shot 50% from three. Game two, they shot 26%. Just watch the three-point percentage. Who's ever over 40 is going to win the game.

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If they're both over 40, then it's a 50-50 ball, literally. Dallas, they're going to be missing Tim Hardaway in game three, which I think is to watch. You know, he's a pretty crucial piece for them off the bench scoring wise.

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Daniel Gafford PERSON may not play either. Obviously, like, way less of a scoring type deal there,

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but he's given them some good minutes defensively. Luca was really good defensively, I thought, in game two. That was one thing you got to feel good about if you're Dallas ORG and moving forward, I think, is good for them. For who we want to do next, you want to do Timberwolves and Sons ORG next here real quick.

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Let's save them for last, man.

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That's my favorite series. Okay. All right. Then we can save them for last. They are, of course, Minnesota ORG is up to O in that series. But our final series is Oklahoma City and New Orleans GPE right now.Oklahoma City GPE is up to O in that matchup. Losing game one was brutal for New Orleans GPE because that's kind of the game, right, where OK season played in a little bit. Your New Orleans GPE, you're coming out of playing game game you got some momentum and it felt like they could jump them and they kind of did for the most part um you know really put themselves in position but you know give okayc credit they weathered the storm late and then they thoroughly dominated game two so at thatpoint i do think the series there has flipped a little bit okayc defended their home court so again you're going back to new Orleans, but without Zion, OKC GPE,

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he's a better team here. I mean, they're the better team regardless,

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but it's like Zion would really be the equalizer. It could have been a potential coming, quote unquote, coming out party even more for Zion.

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It's just a bummer. They're missing them right now.

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That's just really what it comes down to. Yeah. And so at that point, you know, with Zion out, I think that series will wrap up kind of quickly. Let's talk sons and tim roles, though, because this has been one of my favorite series as well. I mean, just the Anthony Edwards and Kevin Durant PERSON images are great. And I love Katie smiling because you can tell how much Katie loves hoop in that picture because he's just

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like loving that Anthony Edwards is just talking trash and being part of him and feeling it. Like you just got you got to you. Katie appreciates ball. And look, man, this is one of the series that in the preview we talked about in our first round preview I should say like Phoenix kind of dominated this regular season matchup. Like this was more of a worry from a matchup standpoint. And so for Minnesota ORG to come out and just dominate the series, especially defensively the way they have. Like, you know, Jaden McDaniels has had Devin Booker PERSON in hell this entire series. It feels like Anthony Edwards, too, obviously, has played some phenomenal defense. So look, you've got to feel great if you're the Timberwolves ORG going down to Phoenix

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and give like the other person, like we talked about him a little bit in that survey, like Gobert PERSON is aging real well. Like I know people are saying he's overrated, but there were a lot of people who were like, oh, we couldn't play in the playoffs. Like it's just one of those things. And now it's kind of more like, well, maybe he didn't have great perimeter defense in Utahbecause I'm looking now with these like swarms of perimeter defenders on the Timberwolves ORG, and they allow Rudy PERSON to roam and dominate the paint the way he has. And like, you got to feel pretty good about everything here for Minnesota ORG. You know, I love too Mike Conley PERSON before the series saying, hey, if you guys are motivated, like winning for me. I'm running out of time here, guys.I mean, he said before the series started, like, he made the conference finals with Memphis back in, like, 2012. And I don't think he's made it since. And obviously, those Memphis ORG teams are really good.

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He was with the jazz when they went, right?

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No, I don't think so.

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Oh, wow. Yeah.

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Okay.

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And so at that point, like, but you really got to be enthused with what you see in Minnesota ORG so far.

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Like, this is really really because I did.

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I worried about like I had this going seven. Like I've really appreciated the Tim Roles just taken up. And, you know, we'll see what happens tonight. But they have really put Booker and Beal PERSON kind of in a blender on the perimeter.

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And that's been really good. And you're getting. And you're getting amazing shooting out of Alexander Walker PERSON, who we talked about in length. And, you know, from the other side, Jacksonville's very own, Grayson Allen PERSON, is not doing great.And actually, like, decreased minutes significantly in the second game. And then the, but really only shooting like two or three shots in those in second game. And first game, he was, you know, 0 for three from three and oh for three from field goal. So like, I mean, he just got paid, but like, yo, you're going to need some shooting out of him. He was for the most part, their most consistent player this year. And that was a big part that everyone was alluding to.So you wonder if there's anything there. But like I said, I'm full on the Timberwolves ORG train. And I said it last time. I think I'm just bummed the nuggets and Timberwolves ORG are going to have to play each other in the next round.

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And we're not going to get that as a conference final. Yeah, me too. I think whoever wins that is winning the West LOC and I'm already, yes, I'm already moving both of these teams on in my eyes. But I mean, look, Phoenix is also kind of playing into Minnesota ORG's strength. Like, Minnesota's got all these defenders and Phoenix ORG just keeps wanting to play ISO. And like, I know they're going to try to keep

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getting towns in the action. Sure. But I don't know. Like with all the length you mentioned,

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I mean, I'm glad you mentioned Alexander with all the length you mentioned, I mean, I'm glad you mentioned Alexander Walker because he's another one who I think has really had a great two games here so far.

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I just,

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I don't think that's the way to beat them. Like maybe they got to get the ball moving around a little bit more. And, you know, I haven't seen any indication that they're going to do that so far. Well,

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and it might be one of those things. You got three guys that are very, I guess, shot creator-esque players, and that might not be mixing well for a team. So again, I think, I think, you know, if the sons do lose, maybe they turn around,but if the sons do lose, I think, uh, I think this experiment's over.

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Uh, yeah, yeah. You want to, I mean, the KD to OKC GPE rumors are

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continue to heat up a little bit. The dude narrated the shoe release.

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Yeah, for Chet Holmer PERSON.

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I mean, I know Chet's wearing Katie's sneaker, but like, yeah.

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It makes a lot of sense too, but we, again,

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we got a whole offseason to talk about that potential.

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Do you want to, no, I don't agree, we got a whole off season to talk about that. You saw that. Do you want to?

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No, I don't agree.

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I think that would do wonders for Katie's legacy.

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Not that he needs to do wonders because I think there are a lot of people that say that all the time.

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But like, I think if Indian ship and OKC GPE would be a perfect icing on the cake to his career.

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Katie went to the Golden State Warriors when they were the number one team in the West LOC.

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KD goes to the Thunder when they're the number one team in the West LOC.

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It's like, I think this Thunder team is radically different than that Golden State ORG team.

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I agree. When he went there, everyone knew that he was going to win that golden with that Golden State ORG crew.

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I agree. Like, Golden State ORG had also already won a title. This OKC GPE group is young. They've never won a title. Like, if he's a veteran that takes them over it, he brings Oklahoma City, their first title in OKC GPE group is young, they've never won a title. Like if he's the veteran that takes them over and he brings Oklahoma City their first title in OKC. I agree.It's not LeBron and Cleveland ORG like legacy boosting, but I think it boosts it a fair amount. It'll boost it. It just feels, I guess, like, Haiti GPE's been bouncing around, right?

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And it just feels like he keeps bouncing around to teams that are going to be these quote unquote super teams goes to the Sons with Booker and now Beals PERSON coming in. We're going to dominate the league. It doesn't work. All right. I'm out. I'm going to go to the number one team, the Thunder ORG and just plug me in with these guys. And we're going to be the super team now. Like it just feels. But they have the resources to do it. You know what I mean?

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They won't have to give up all their identity to make that happen. I think the Sun had to give up everything they had to bring KD in and that was always the risk.

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Brooklyn GPE, again, I listen, there are half a shoe size away from winning a title in Brooklyn in my eyes. So I don't even think that's quite the mistake. I know it blew up, but I don't view that is the mistake that a lot of people do, but that's neither here

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nor there. We don't need to do the legacy discourse at this point.

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We can, at this point, switch over to Immaculate Grid ORG. I feel like we can speed run it at this point.

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We did it pretty quickly last week. Maybe the first time that we've ever asked for a, the 50 player, born outside the 50 states in D.C. GPE, maybe get that category and give us a boost here a little bit.

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It's not.

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It's not in there. I mean, that's fine. Whatever. I mean, you're getting an early preview on it. How difficult can it?

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It's going to be, it's going to be, we're going to have some work here.

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We have to work. But I feel good. We're going to speed this already. Watch the Immaculate Grids on YouTube ORG. But for the podcast listeners are columns this week from left to speed this already. Watch the Immaculate Grids PRODUCT on YouTube, but for the podcast listeners, our columns this week from left to right.The Kings, the Heat, and 10,000 career rebounds are rows from top to bottom, the Knicks, the Sixers, and the Mavericks ORG. So, Justin PERSON, you were already clicking on one. I don't know if that's like you want to run one.

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I mean, Buddy Healed works there, obviously.

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Buddy healed works there. Okay, so right off top for Sixers and Kings ORG ready Chris Weber PERSON works

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Buddy Healed works Roshan Holmes PERSON works

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Who's the other one? Oh my God We did a trade with them It was Javel McGee works too actually

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I feel like DeVille McGee PERSON might work in others Because he was on the Mavericks at one point

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Right? He might yeah He might, yeah

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he might that might be a low key sneaky pick there. Yeah, maybe

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I mean because I don't think he was on Dallas ORG that long. Know who else works for Mavericks Kings not to just be fully jumping all over the place too? Pages Stoiaakovich works for Magic and Kings ORG.

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Yeah.

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Won the title, obviously a great shooter with Sacramento and all those playoff teams. He won the title with Dallas in 2011. And I'm pretty sure he retired after that year. So, um,all right, where do you want to go? Just pick, pick any of these and just hit me with one.

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I kind of like the idea of going, uh, Holmes PERSON here.

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You want to reach a home?

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For Kings 76ers ORG.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Definitely work. H-O-L-M. Yeah.

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There he is.

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Yep.

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Rich homie, Sean PERSON. Rich homie, Sean.

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Rich homie, Sean PERSON. Jimmy Butler, obviously the easy pick for Sixers Heat ORG. Kyle Lowry PERSON from the back end of that. He's already on the team.

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The converse from the Jimmy Butler trade was Josh Richardson PERSON as well works there then.

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Oh, we should do Josh PERSON.

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I bet people would, at least out of those three would definitely be the third on that list yeah oh definitely of those three I'm fine putting Josh there the other one that came to mine is I'm pretty sure Dwayne Dedman played there as well um it's kind of one of those processes good but no do Josh Richardson that's yeah I'm cool with that yeah oh also 7% wow okay so far um okay do you want to just close six or 10,000 rebounds?

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I mean, there's a bunch that work.

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Like, DeKembe Metumbo PERSON works.

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Charles Barkley PERSON works.

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He's probably the most obvious.

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Will Chamberlain works.

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That feels like another big one.

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Moses Malone PERSON works.

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That's another big one.

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Let's go Matumbo PERSON.

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Okay.

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Yeah, I'm fine.

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I'm fine.

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I don't think people would probably associate in most of the Sixers. that's another big one. Let's go Matumbo PERSON. Okay. Yeah, I'm fine going to Matumbo.

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I don't think people would probably associate in most of the Sixers ORG.

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Like, Barclay to me is Barkley and Wilt are the top two there.

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Yeah.

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M-U-T-O-Dicamba right there, 11%.

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Still kind of higher than I thought it would be, but.

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Yeah, because I don't think Embed PERSON as 10K yet. No, I don't.

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Jordan would have worked for the Sixers ORG.

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That would have low. Oh, DeAndre PERSON.

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Does he work for?

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He works with Mavericks ORG. He also works for the Knows ORG.

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Did he play for the Knicks ORG? I know he played for the Nets ORG. I don't think he played for the Knicks ORG.

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He works from Mavs ORG.

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Should we go DeAndre for Mavericks, $10,000?

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Yeah, I'm fine with that. Okay.

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Let's do that.

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I think he'd be slept on there because the one I associate with 10K, I mean, Dirk PERSON probably had 10K.

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Yeah, 6% is pretty low. That's good.

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Tyson Chandler were to work there, and Tyson Chandler works for the Nixon 10,000 rebounds.

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You want to go Tyson PERSON? Yeah, because the obvious one is Patrick Ewing PERSON. I would go Tyson Chandler there. Yeah, it definitely works. And I bet because he might

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have been the more popular pick for for mavericks i think so too because he won the title in

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it's crazy too because he played more years in new york but he was obviously you know winning

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goes a long way there definitely will yeah um okay so for kings NORP nicks and for heat nicks

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mike bibby actually works for both of them.

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I was so wanting

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Alfred Payton PERSON to work here

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because he works for the Knicks ORG, but he's not going to. Know who works for Knicks ORG and Kings who I know people remember with the Knicks ORG, maybe not with the Kings ORG as much. Imond Shumper works for Kings Knicks ORG.

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Oh, really? Yeah. He played with the Knicks real late not with the Kings as much. Imond Shumpert works for Kings Knicks ORG. Oh, really?

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Yeah. He played with the Knicks ORG real late in his career. J.R. Smith PERSON.

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No, never mind.

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I was, yeah, no, no.

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You want to do Biddy then for Nixon PERSON, uh, heat?

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Bibi PERSON. I like that.

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Baby.

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He's obviously way more associated with the Kings ORG there.

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Yeah. I would think Kings ORG people put them there.

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Yeah.

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Okay. So Dallas and Sacramento and Dallas and Miami ORG.

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Dallas and Sacramento ORG. Vince Carter PERSON works. He's going to be really high. Javelle McGee PERSON works. We didn't, we could have done.

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Oh, yeah. McGee PERSON.

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Is he?

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MCGE PERSON.

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CGE. Yeah, there he is.

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Okay.

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Boom.

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5% baby.

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Nice. Um, okay. Mavs and Heat ORG. So the 2011, 2000, 2006 finals matchup. Um, man man who is would

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wasn't one of the more

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yeah he got hurt

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Yogy Yogy PERSON heard him the Morris Yeah you're Markeith He played for the Mavericks ORG right Oh man did he

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Or was it one of the brothers

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Was it the same brother

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Markief

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He's on

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He was on the heat I'm 100% Markief PERSON was on the heat.

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Because he did. Yokechard him there. You're right. That was the whiplash thing. And isn't he on, is he,isn't one of the Morris brothers on Dallas ORG now?

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Yeah, it's Keith PERSON now. Keith PERSON's on them now, right?

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I think so. So that would work.

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Yeah, you're right. The only other player I can think of that I'm pretty sure works for both as Sean Marion PERSON.

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John Marion PERSON definitely works. I'm okay going. I'm okay going Keith PERSON. Yeah, keeps on there right now. Marcus PERSON,I'm trying to remember Marcus PERSON was on. I don't think Marcus PERSON is on either actually. I don't. I just don't know. I get them so, I get them so.Well, they both bounced a lot.

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Right.

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Like, they've been on a lot of teams at this point. But Keefe is definitely on the Mabs ORG now. And if he's on the Mabs ORG now, then he works because he played for the heat. He was,Yokic PERSON knocked him out on the heat. Yeah, that's, I remember that. I was just talking about that the other day.

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All right. So, yeah, because Yokich's brother tried to knock out someone in the stand the other day. That took it to the face like a champ. I don't know why anyone would

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still remotely try to fight Yokic PERSON's brother. That feels like an insane statement. You just got to take it on the chin there. I get your frustrated. But yeah, let's do it. Markief Morris PERSON, to close it out. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Oh, 57%. All right.So let's go to the most common. So most common for Kings ORG, Nix is Dante Divenzo. Oh, yeah.

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Nick's heat Amari Stademeyer PERSON. I forget that Amari Stademeyer PERSON was on the heat. I never would a million years think to put Amari Stademeyer PERSON there.

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Number one. Patrick Ewing was the number one answer for Nixon, 10,000 rebounds there. Maybe not a surprise. Sixers Kings, it was Chris Weber PERSON. Sixers Heat, it was Jimmy Butler PERSON. Will was number one for 10K rebounds.Edginell Barkley PERSON, that does surprise me a little bit.

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For Mavs, Kings, Harrison Barnes PERSON, makes sense. Sean Marion, who we mentioned for Mavs ORG, and Dirknibitzky for 10,000 career rebounds for Mavs ORG. All right, so to go recap ours one final time, Eamon Shumpert for Nix and Kings ORG. Mike Bibby for Kings and Heat, Tyson Chandler for Nix, 10,000 career rebounds.We're Sean Holmes for Sixers and Kings ORG. Josh Richardson for Sixers and Heat ORG, Tkembe Metumbo for Sixers 10K rebounds. Javell McGee for Kings Mavericks ORG, Marquief Morris for Mavericks and Heat ORG, and DeAndre Jordan for Mavericks and 10,000 rebounds.Thank you everybody for listening to this episode of Driving to the NBA ORG podcast. Appreciate you guys as always. Leave us a review on iTunes ORG, good or bad. We'll read them on the podcast. You can get your podcast.Any, or get the show. Good Lord, man. My brain's turning to mush at the end of this semester. You get the podcast anywhere you find a podcast.

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