Episode 184: Lover and a Fighterboy

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Hello, and welcome to don't Be All Like a cool, a way too deep dive into the shallowest people on the planet. I'm Juliet, and I'm here with my good friend Alex, and we are with Adelizabeth PERSON yet again. Yet again.

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Alex, do you have a tagline this week?

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If you don't know Pickleball, have you been watching Bravo ORG at all?

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And that is for Melissa from New Jersey, who this week when playing pickleball, asked like what it was. Right.

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And it kind of clicked for, Melissa PERSON does seem like she does not study the other housewife shows.

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Do you agree with this read?

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Oh, I completely agree. She also doesn't study just common things we all know. Like the fact that she told her daughter to go sew her wild oats this week, but had no clue what the phrase was and no clue what it meant just kind of shows that I think Melissa PERSON.

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That was going to be my next point. Oh, sorry. I think Melissa PERSON just lives in her own world.

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And she doesn't need Housewives WORK_OF_ART or pickleball or oats to be happy.

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Is she the, who's the one?

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And another one asked another like Bravo common sense question on Jersey this week. Someone asked like what a roadie is.

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Oh, that was Danielle PERSON.

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So maybe the whole Jersey GPE cast is like.

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And Danielle PERSON you would think would have one of her t-shirts and her little kid line would be like, here's to Rotties.

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That kind of seems on brand for her.

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Yet she didn't know what it was.

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And then failed when she was taught what a Rody PRODUCT was to get herself a Rode.

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She was sitting there with an empty cup, complaining about her empty cup. Is it just that they don't watch these shows as closely as we do for our deep analysis of them?

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I think so. I feel like Jersey GPE would do well to study more. Though I'm having a great time. Maybe they're just so on their own, their own garden state. They don't need anyone else.

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All right.

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My tagline is, he doesn't like Italian food, divorces, or the Jersey GPE shore. But Polly PERSON is still the man for me. And every single episode, if we watch of New Jersey, I think Dolores PERSON get out of there.

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I can keep doing this tagline if we keep learning something about Polly PERSON that just shows that he and Dolores PERSON are not meant for each other. And we can just keep going. And by the end of my tagline, I'm going to have 17 knocks against Polly PERSON.

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I have another knock against Polly PERSON. Oh.

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We're not getting any Frank PERSON.

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Oh, yes. Where is he?

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And it's odd because Frank PERSON's fiancé seems like she's very bravo forward.

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She seems like she watches, yes.

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If the phone rang, they would answer.

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Yeah, and if they were like, all right, pop quiz for you, do you know what a roadie is? You know what sewing your wild oats means? She'd know.

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She would know. So I feel like, do you think Dolores PERSON is keeping them at bay?

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Maybe Frank PERSON's just really happy. It's a relationship and doesn't need to be on this show.

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We got Frank PERSON in a flashback.

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And even with Polly right there, people always go up to her and ask her, like, how's Frank PERSON? So it's like other people aren't going to let us forget Frank PERSON either.

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No. Are we in the Jersey GPE segment right now?

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We're in the Jersey GPE segment.

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All right.

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No Jen Fessler and no Jackie PERSON.

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Those are our two people who are a friend of.

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That's so Jackie PERSON, sure, that makes sense.

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Yeah. But this season feels like it's revolving around Jen Fessler PERSON. Gin Fessler is making the season happen. She is a one-woman alliance-breaking band over here. Which is good because not only is it

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surprising like Marge and the people that you thought that she was like aligned with, it's surprising

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me, the viewer. Because I didn't think Jen Fessler PERSON had it in her. I think what it is. And this

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might be reading into it a little too much, something Rachel PERSON said.

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But Rachel at her Jersey house made the comment to how much money she spent on Jin Fessler's PERSON party.

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And Jen Fessler PERSON, like, didn't take the bait.

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She just ignored it. I think Rachel PERSON might be an annoying friend. And I think Jen Fessler is like, I do not want to hang out with Rachel anymore. Interesting.

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I think this is a strategic move to move away from Rachel and John PERSON.

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And also Rachel main cast member, Fessler PERSON, not a main cast member.

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True, true, true, true. Also, John, though, I am liking the Fudas PERSON. Like, I think they're funny. The fact that John PERSON's like, I have nothing to say. I have nothing to say. I have nothing to say. And then proceeds to like hate on Teresa and Louis PERSON any chance he gets.I know.

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Right when he sees Teresa PERSON, he like goes into like a blind fury. I also think back to Fessler PERSON for a moment, who we're calling Fessler now. Have you noticed?

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Yes. You know, we're calling her Jen Fessler PERSON. Is it because she's upgraded?

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Because this goes into my point of, when you call someone Jen Fessler PERSON, which they all do,

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they call her by her full name, it sort of makes her two-dimensional. It's kind of like a cartoon character. That's Jen Fessler PERSON. That's like a character name. Yes.

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So they don't expect such like bold moves by Jen Fessler PERSON, or Fessler, as we're calling her now. Like, when things are getting, like, really crazy with her and, like, really heated, are they going to scream Jen Fessler PERSON at her? Like, are they going to keep the full name thing up?

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I think so.

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What do they do with Jesse Solomon PERSON? I mean, I guess he hasn't gotten any, like, fights with anyone yet.

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Even Jesse Solomon's own mom called him Jesse Solomon this week.

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That is true.

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But then like, do we call Jen PERSON Aiden, Jin Aiden? Or do we just call her Jen? I think we just call her Jen.

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Okay. There's such a shorthand of people being annoyed with her. Yeah, no one calls her Aden PERSON.

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No. And Jen Aden PERSON right now is just a stage mom for her amazing daughters. I thought you were going to say for

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Teresa PERSON. Who like, I can't get over Olivia. I thought you were going to say for Teresa.

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Who like, I can't get over Olivia PERSON.

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I think she is.

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The one who doesn't age?

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Yeah.

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She's been an eight-year-old relationship therapist for like three seasons.

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Love her.

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Too cute.

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I'm also getting my toddlers and tiaras,

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which of course can't be on air anymore because it is too problematic.

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But Danielle PERSON is giving me that.

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So, thanks, Daniel PERSON, I suppose. But you got to give it to her, though, because she does have a website where you could buy something you would not want to buy.

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But you could still buy it.

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No, God, no, I don't want to buy a little mommy and me workout ensemble.

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I'm surprised that she's not one of the friend ofs, honestly.

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Yeah, we had such odd milestones this week. We were celebrating someone's eight years of sobriety and someone's six years of no brain tumor.

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But don't you think in like the Danielle versus Rachel PERSON, like, Rachel's the clear winner of like who would like, who would have fought last season to like be like a main, like stay a mane like Rachel's the clear winner of like who would like who would

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have fought last season to like be like a main like stay a main Rachel PERSON is the clear winner yeah yeah

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because like Danielle PERSON feels like we'll see but like by and large she like can't hang with like the

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drama she like has a hard time holding up to like scrutiny the whole brother thing yes I remember that

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like she like folded it like she like couldn't talk about that at all. No, and it was her presented storyline.

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I know.

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We're like, I have a hard time of matching that being brought up ever again.

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I think the cast, like, doesn't even want to, like, deal with that.

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No.

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Maybe they're afraid that, like, that will, like, ruin the show.

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Right.

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Which, there are rumors online that this is going to be the last season of this show.

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I know there's always rumors about every Bravo ORG series.

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There's a lot of them about Jersey GPE.

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We are going out with a bang, if so, though, because I'm enjoying this ride.

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It's just colorful.

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It's fun to watch.

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There's so much drama with people having all their private detectives.

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Oh, that's always the best.

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All the Louise PERSON's private detective friends.

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If Marge, though, is the indicator of this show being over.

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She's not giving us her all.

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Yeah, well, she hasn't had a full betrayal by Fessler PERSON yet.

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I can't wait.

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I think that's going to make her explore. I love Marsh PERSON. I love her, too.

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I think she might be actively cheating on her husband, though, with this pickleball instructor. Yeah, but, you know.

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Yeah. And the thing you have to remember with this show, too, is, like, the husbands are their own, like, half of the equation.

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Yes.

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And they always bring it. They do.

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But where's Bill PERSON?

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Where's Bill PERSON? Where's Bill PERSON? But we got Joe being an ally this week to Melissa PERSON's family.

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Yes.

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Oh, I do like him too. I like this show. I think last season was just really tough to get through.

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And it doesn't affect me at all. The half the cast isn't talking to the other half of the cast. Most of these shows, I would be like, why are we even here? For some reason, in Jersey GPE, it just works. I'm fine with it.

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It's because the allegiances are so, like, ify.

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Yeah. So, like, if one side chooses not to film with the other, like, both sides, they're going

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to start to, like, uh, disassemble, you know? It's not like Vanderpump WORK_OF_ART where like, oh, if we just

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watched Ariane and Katie, it'd be the most boring show in the world, except maybe there's

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some cracks based on this week's reunion. We can't get into Vanderpump WORK_OF_ART yet. We can't get it.

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Okay, we're going to save it for last. Yeah.

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Okay, so where should we go from Jersey GPE?

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Let's travel northeast to Martha's Vineyard GPE.

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Speaking of internet reactions of people talking on the internet.

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Yes.

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Do you know what have people been saying about this?

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Well, if you were to guess what side the internet is overwhelmingly on in regards to

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Nick PERSON versus the women of this cast?

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What would you say they're saying?

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I would say they're team Nick PERSON.

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Yes, overwhelmingly.

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Yes.

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Everyone is Team Nick PERSON.

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I think Natalie PERSON is trying to get a spin-off.

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Everyone is anti-natally.

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My complaint was when she first showed up on our screen, how she was treating her relationship

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with Mir PERSON, like they were co-workers more than lovers. It's like she's using him to also

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get her own reality TV show. Like when she plopped herself down on that hammock, it was so genuine.

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I don't know. There's something. Yeah, I see why the internet doesn't like her.

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Her coming in as like the jealous girlfriend also didn't feel genuine. It feels like she's trying on these different acts to see like what works.

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So because like when you're saying like when she does, hang out with the other gals this episode,

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you're like, what, where's this coming from?

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Why is she being so chummy with them? And she's clearly trying to get information out of them. And she doesn't even do it subtly. Yeah.

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And then the drama she stirs up is it's not fun messy.

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It's like, and I think she like forgets that like, oh, they're all like really close friends.

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Like Brie was mad at her boyfriend for like maybe ruining Nick PERSON's party.

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Despite like what they're talking about, like they're still like good friends that don't want to like ruin each other's lives. And what Natalie's bringing up is something that could ruin Nick PERSON's life.

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Right. And his girlfriend, even though they may have hung out before, hates Natalie PERSON.

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Like when Natalie PERSON walked over and started touching her hair too much, I was like, this is weird, the pettingness of it. And she also gave Nick PERSON like a friendly little like arm squeeze when she walked away too.

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The irony, considering what Nick PERSON's being accused of.

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It's true. It's true. I also like in the flashbacks, and he has been Hansy, for sure.

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But the flashbacks that they show this week, it's like him about to like approach someone from like five feet away and they'd be like, no, uh-uh. Everyone like knows. It's interesting.

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And there's no way the girlfriend doesn't know this already.

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No, no. She's smart. She's smart enough to the girlfriend doesn't know this already. No.

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She's smart.

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She's smart enough to say, don't tell me.

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I'm over it. I saw a thing too with Preston talking about it like this week where he's like, hey, Nick's Hansy PERSON with me too. That's like how he is. He's just like he's a touchy guy.

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Yeah.

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Not okay still. But like everyone's aware of it and like they give, they tell him like the boundary. And then for Natalie PERSON to blow it up into like all the girls are saying,, really, really making it to a point where let's get this guy canceled. Right.

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Because you can see him, like, freaking out over that.

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There's just a lot of classic Bravo ORG non-clarification over what's going on.

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And I'm worried that Natalie's going to get a mirror off Martha's Vineyard GPE and I don't like that one bit. I just don't need to see her again, but I love him and they're still dating.

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Yeah, because he's clearly going to take her side on everything.

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Yes.

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What do you think about Shanice PERSON's reaction to everything?

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She loves the drama. She does.

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Because she's the one that kind of like goes like headfirst into her and Brie PERSON at the end there.

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Brie makes sense because she never shies away from any conflict. She'll always like kind of up goes like headfirst into her and brie at the end there brie makes sense because she never shines away from any conflict she'll always like kind of up the ante every single

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time but she needs i'm like i never really know like what dog she has in the fight like ever it feels like she is just like i don't know brie makes sense to me it feels like a personality

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default with her right she's always so combative but with she needs like I have a hard time like reading her.

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And then I remember that she's a stalker.

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Yes. I know. Again, like all these people throwing stones.

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Bree PERSON and Simon

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are still together.

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That makes sense. That makes total sense to me.

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You know, she really held her own when she was like you were disrespectful at my event.

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If I was disrespectful at your events, you would have something to say.

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Cut to him very, like, quickly being like, you were awful at my event.

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And she was like, I know.

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And.

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Not only was she awful.

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She lasted like five minutes of that event.

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It's at the core.

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And, you know, what she said happened, you know, absolutely awful.

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But it's just so crazy that she used that as an example of her being well behaved

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at an event when she like lost it and went and waited in the car.

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I think that was smart though.

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Because I think that she thought that he was going to counter with that.

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And then she was going to be able to like say it.

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Like, well, here's why.

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Like, I thought that was shitty

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and why your friends were shitty.

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Right.

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Because they were. But their relationship is just so funny because it feels like a lot of that, a lot of Brie setting up Simon PERSON to think that he's winning and then just demolishing him.

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It's so odd. And it's like we are speaking in Brie PERSON's native tongue. So like maybe that's why she comes off.

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So, like, with such the upper hand. But

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I just, I don't understand them as a couple. I truly, he must whine her and make her feel like a

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queen. Yeah. Well, she deserves. So good for her. Yeah. I love Brie PERSON. I love this cast. I do too.

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Jasmine's just like, Jasmine and Jordan don't exist this season. No.

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And there's such stars, really.

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It's wild to see them take such a back seat.

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Yeah, Jordan was like one of the people I fully remembered from last season going into this one.

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Right.

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She got herself on Winterhouse ORG.

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It makes like that episode like five weeks back where Alex PERSON calls her out for not saying anything even more like irrelevant.

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I don't know. It feels like he called out how quiet she was being all those weeks ago and then she was like, well, I'm just going to be that, I guess, for the rest of the season.

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Right.

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I guess if people are saying, if you're saying that I'm going to be quiet, I'll be quiet.

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Like I'll, I'm going to, it feels like a contrarian mode to be like, well, I'm not going to do anything for you. So I'm just going to keep doing nothing.

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Alex is doing the same thing he did last season where he starts, he's in the drama, full force at the first week. And then he just lays real low to where you kind of forget, he's there.

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He's the Luke PERSON of the show.

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Yes, he is the Luke PERSON of the show.

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He has, like, all the relationship problems, like, immediately, all everyone's fighting

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about him. Yes.

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And then he kind of just, like, disappears into disappears into the back is kind of a weirdo. Yeah.

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Uses someone else's bathroom the whole time.

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Do you like Nick PERSON though? I feel like Nick's become the main character this season.

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I really like Nick PERSON. I like the way he dresses. He has star power.

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You know, he gives him something to talk about. I think Amir is probably the like most likable guy of the three maybe.

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But Nick PERSON is the one that has, he just has so much going on.

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Yes.

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And he feels like he would be like maybe like the comic relief of the show because he is so strange.

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But there are just so many layers to him. And every episode and new one gets like peeled and it's like, he's great. I like Nick PERSON.

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Should we go to the other summer house? Should we go to where there's another DJ yeah a repressed DJ he's DJing now though

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oh that's good that's nice let him cook let Kyle Cook PERSON cook let Kyle Cook be Kyle Cook

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I don't even know where to start with those. This was a heavy episode of Summer House WORK_OF_ART.

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Like the heaviest of episodes.

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The thing we talked about last week about Carl's new way of talking to Lindsay that stayed true this week.

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Yeah.

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Where he was just like laughing and be like, you're crazy.

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What's going on?

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Also to leave without taking her luggage was the pettiest thing I've ever seen anyone do on these shows.

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And these are Bravo ORG shows.

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Stupid move, Carl PERSON, because you just lost like everyone's vote for you with that cast.

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All the girls in that car are going to be like, yeah, nope, team winsy now.

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That is like the worst thing you could have done.

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Like he was going home.

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Take the luggage. Offer to take more luggage.

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Did that not feel like a very real fight to you though? A lot of these bravo fights can feel like very stagey, but like that fight of her being like, I'm going to this place and him being like, oh, okay, well, I guess I'm going alone. And being so confusing and like not really what they're fighting about is being thought about. It just felt like I was watching a very real couple argument on screen.

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I think he's decided that he's going to break up with her already, obviously. So he's waiting for her to do something to justify a breakup. And he thought that her not wanting to drive a home with him might be a good enough opportunity.

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Yeah, her making a plan without considering him.

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Right.

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Was going to be the straw that broke his already broken back. And it just didn't play out how he thought it. He thought he could poke the bear and get a really big reaction out of her. And she just didn't get it because it was such like a petty thing to be upset about. Yeah.

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Also, he doesn't show up with her half the time and they never go out.

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Like this week, he went out and she stayed in. Well, it's like we don't even have to do our weekly check-in. It's team Lindsay, right?

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Team Lindsay. Wildly so. And definitely team Amanda PERSON. Kyle PERSON.

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And team Paige PERSON.

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I think Paige said everything perfectly to God PERSON.

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Oh, yes.

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In a way that truly like changed his opinion.

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So, which is so funny he has to hear it from her two friends screaming at it.

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And then him crying with his lover boy bucket hat on.

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That's just such a hard visual.

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I think he started crying and was so upset just because he was embarrassed. Yeah.

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I do also think Carl PERSON being like, don't ruin your marriage over this.

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What played a big part in it too.

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And then when they had that moment and like they hug and they're just saying, I love you man. When Kyle PERSON's crying, I'm like, it's so funny watching that and knowing that Kyle is not in his wedding party at that point.

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Oh my gosh, yes.

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Oh, that's, yeah, he's still Flower Boy.

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Yeah. Oh, my gosh. It's so weird.

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Jesse Solomon PERSON. The worst cliffhanger we've ever been left with on a Bravo ORG show.

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He must stop referring to it as is a nut, though, because that immediately, any sense of drama or dread that I'm feeling for him because

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it's it's huge what's happening to him yeah it all goes away and he's like I just feel it on my nut

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I feel something on my nut would you like left testicle better that's that's better that's

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okay next time maybe like any other word would be okay? I think that'd be better.

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Okay.

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Then not.

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Okay.

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Just the way he's,

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I think it's also just the way he says it.

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It's very bro-y.

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Well, he is the ultimate bro.

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He is, he is.

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Well, I don't know.

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You know who is the ultimate bro now.

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West PERSON.

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And I've been saying it.

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I've been saying this was going to happen.

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Yes.

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And Elizabeth PERSON was such Team West.

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I wonder where she stands now.

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At least with West PERSON in his defense. No, actually no, because this kind of came out of nowhere. If he this entire time was like, this is like my whole ethos, this is who I am as a guy,

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then I would get it. But this like whole philosophy of his only came to light like last week.

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Right. Or a couple weeks ago of how like he pursues pursues women and, like, his thoughts on, like,

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monogamy and everything.

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This is all new news.

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We start off the season of him being, like, I want a girlfriend.

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I want Sarah PERSON to be my girlfriend.

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So.

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And she's smart because she sensed this.

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That is why he has not gotten his pee-p touched.

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Mm-hmm.

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Good for you, Sierra PERSON.

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It's very, very clear to me now that that is pretty much all he wanted from this relationship.

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Yes.

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Very, very clear to me.

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I had been clear for a while. Again, I was anti-West NORP the whole time.

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Good for you, Alex PERSON. It's the right side of history over here. All right. Should we go... West?

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To the Valley LOC.

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Oh, yeah.

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Okay.

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Thank goodness Janet PERSON is now the villain. Another thing we called.

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Yes.

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And like a boring villain.

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We're kind of like fortune tellers on the show.

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We really are. Well, it's also like so ridiculous that she was like, this is a couple's thing, blah, blah, blah, blah. Jasmine shows up without her couple, which is fine, but it still

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takes away this as a couple's trip only. And then she makes the girls do a pontoon without the

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boys also making it a non-couples trip. It's just, like, so contrived, so obnoxious. And with the Jasmine thing, it's like, that's not something you find out like day of. Like they planned that she would be going there alone.

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Right. She just is so enjoyed. I think she, well, I mean, I think if you're on these shows, you have to think you're the star of the show. I think that's just the personality type to get you

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on these shows. She's definitely not like Melissa PERSON. She definitely watches all these shows. She watches all

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the shows and she thinks this is her moment.

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And she doesn't understand that we will take Kristen PERSON over her any day of the week and she is playing this the wrong way. She needs to Jen Fessler PERSON this.

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She needs to scuttle her allegiance right over to Kristen PERSON. She does not understand.

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Yeah, but that's going to make, there's going to be a thing happen, like, what happened with Jesse PERSON. You know how Jesse started the season, like, total demon, chaotic energy?

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Yeah.

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And now he's totally humbled.

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And it's so funny to watch him.

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But he is trying to murder Danny PERSON.

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Yes, but that's a part of his, like, him just being like a mess now.

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Yes.

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He went from Jesse PERSON to messy, one might say.

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I said it.

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The choking of the towel.

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Such a funny flashback.

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Wild.

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But like, you know, he like started all kind of like control, like his duchiness.

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But now he's just crazy.

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He's crazy.

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Yes.

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And I think something's going to happen with Janet PERSON.

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We're like, she's going to start to get in like some actual fights of her own.

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I think that we got a preview for like fighting with Danny PERSON.

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Not Danny PERSON.

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What's her husband's name?

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Jason?

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Yes.

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The person I know the least about.

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Jason. Because he's too normal for the show. But that's fine.

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You need one. Once they start having their own stuff, she's going to become crazy too, I think. So all this is building up to something good, I think. It's fun. It's going to be crazy too, I think. So all this is building up to something good, I think. It's fun. It's going to be like a Stasi PERSON thing. For Stasi in those first couple, the first season of Vanderpump WORK_OF_ART,she thinks she's like hot shit. She thinks she's like in control of everything and everyone. And then she has a complete collapse, and it's amazing.

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And leaves the show for half the season because she can't handle it. Yeah.

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So I think that's maybe what Janet PERSON's arc is going to be similar to.

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The funniest thing about having Kristen not on this trip is that Jax PERSON is having to work overtime.

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I thought the same thing. And I am enjoying that. Like, I do feel like they both realize they are keeping

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the show afloat. And they are. Like, love the show, they are the show.

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So him having to play two people. And he's not even allowed on the pantom boat. And his wife

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is just completely useless. So what is he going to do? Just barfing nonstop.

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If we didn't know they never had sex, I would say she's pregnant. She's been sick in every scene.

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We've never not seen her ill.

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A lot of barfing in cars.

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So annoying, though. I don't want to watch someone be car sick. I don't want to watch someone who's never grown out of that. No.

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I kind of can believe the thing where she says like it happens all the time because like she barfs and then she keeps on talking like Brittany PERSON always talks.

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It's kind of like nothing just happened, which is very unsettling to watch. But she's had to leave parties and she has to go take naps.

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Oh, I forgot she left that party.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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She's not pulling her weight on this show. Do you think she's just so beat down by Jack PERSON? She's just like...

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Probably.

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Just depressed and this is really sad and I shouldn't be hating on her.

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We saw the... I mean, the way that he tries to police everything that she does, like when she's upset over watching a video of her kid crying, and Jax PERSON's like, stop that. I'll throw that phone in the lake.

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I was full on Team Jax PERSON. I didn't want to hear her kid crying. Also, who's texting her videos of her kid crying? When we saw the preview, I assumed she was on her security camera watching him cry.

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But it was a test. Someone set her up to fail.

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Yeah. But you're right. I think that when going into this episode, I was like, well, this will be a big test of like if this cast can like cut it without Kristen. And then I remember Jacks is there.

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Yeah. I mean, he's going to be exhausted. No wonder he's a little snippy.

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In a way that with any other Bravo ORG person feel forced, when he brings something up, it is so

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funny and it feels so like he's working.

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He's doing his job. I'm going to start bringing things up. Like Jack PERSON brings things up. I'm going to say, like, Alex PERSON, I have something to tell you, I hate, I can't even believe I'm doing this right now. I can't.But, you know, like, I just have to tell you. No, I'm not going to say anything. No, I am going to say something.

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I can't, I can't ruin a marriage. I can't do this. Are the cameras rolling? Are they rolling right now?

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Michelle PERSON just owned it, though.

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Yeah, we'll see, we'll see. We'll see when we get more context next week.

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True, true.

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This could be one of those very misleading edits.

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Yes, they all are. True. True. We really were cut short. This could be one of those very misleading edits. Yes. They all are. I cannot wait for these twin girls to get older next season. I need these two babies not on

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the trip. I need Nia PERSON not postpartum. I think that Nia is a star just waiting. But right now she...

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And Danny PERSON is weird.

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Danny PERSON is so weird.

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And I think, as all child stars are, and I feel like we need them to shine.

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And right now I kind of put them both in the Brittany PERSON category to where they're both like too sad.

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We need them a little, a little pep in their step.

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Yeah, they're too sad.

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And they get along with everyone.

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Yes.

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And that's not the way.

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Can't we all be friends is something that a mother who's just had twins who's like barely holding her head above water says.

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That is not the Nia we will get next season. I'm excited for her to shine. All right.

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Should we go? So really we don't have to change locations. They all live in the valley now anyway.

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That's true. That's true. Stay in put.

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Yes. Vanderpump WORK_OF_ART. Okay. The best contrived storytelling of all time is the fact that the Vanderpump WORK_OF_ART cast has not seen the last 10 minutes of their season. Yep.

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The whole cast, right? The whole cast. Not just Ariana.

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No, Ariana hasn't seen a minute.

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I know. Ariana hasn't seen anything.

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None of them have seen it. Yeah.

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Lisa PERSON hasn't seen it.

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Lisa PERSON, why are you there again?

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I thought the same thing. I mean, she's trying to go against Jacks' thing of her not being relevant.

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But she adds nothing to these. No, she just proves her lack of relevancy every time she shows up on that couch. She would make herself more relevant if we were like, oh, Lisa PERSON's not here. Yeah.

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Okay.

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Tallala PERSON or not Tallala? Whose team are you on?

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This is huge.

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If Vanderpump gets another season, it is thanks to Lala PERSON.

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That was my initial reaction. She was playing everything so quote unquote well.

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And to like, to the favor of the Vanderpump WORK_OF_ART audience for the majority of this episode,

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to the point where I forgot that Andy PERSON and everyone has been hyping her up as like the MVP of this reunion.

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Yes.

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You know?

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Until that final heel turn in the last like five minutes. Or then she's, then, then she's twisted the knife out of nowhere.

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She even did a little sneak attack where she's like a pregnancy brain. I can't even remember what I'm saying. And James is like, you're doing great, La La, you're doing great.

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And then... Even James wasn't safe. No.

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The funniest thing is like, I think they live in the comments. I think they live in the comments. And it's like you can't accuse people of living in the comments unless you two were in the comments living there with them.

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Because then you know what the comments are.

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They are all in the comments, this entire cast. Sheena Shea She has like multiple iPads PRODUCT set up. One iPad is looking at her 56 locations that she has of people. The other iPad PRODUCT is, you know, dealing with her private investigator that you know she has.

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Sheena Shee does like a stockbroker in her day-to-day.

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And Ariana is also, and Ariana, like, responds to everyone all the time.

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Yeah.

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She's like, she's commenting.

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I think that it goes, and I hate talking about these shows also sometimes in terms of, like,

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audience reaction versus mine.

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But it is so interesting to see people react to Lala bringing up that Katie call in a way of like,

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well, Lala PERSON's a horrible person needs to be fired from this show.

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No.

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Again, why are you watching this show?

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Also, like, we know Katie.

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We've known her for years.

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Nothing has tracked more than what Lala PERSON is.

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She's a snake. She does this all the time.

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And, like, in Katie's complete defense, it sounds like Ariana left her in the dark and she had to read a headline about Ariana being in Chicago.

Speaker 31893.3s - 1900.34s

Sure, that is all complete. I feel like Katie has every right to feel whatever frustration she has about Ariana. Right.

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And in a way that's like not her like shitting on Ariana as a person,

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but it's like you're sympathizing with the Ariane PERSON situation while also being like, but we're trying to open this business and we've been trying to open it for like a year now.

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And this is just going to be another thing that delays this process. Right. And though I am splitting hairs, they said at the time the reunion was going to show air that something about her would be open.

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A few days off.

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A few days off. A few days off.

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It was off by a week, which seems like they could have hustled this. We've been told it opens on the 22nd. But it's not the 22nd yet.

Speaker 31938.14s - 1943.8s

You're right. You're right. It hasn't opened yet. Am I right to call Katie a snake? I feel like she's just done stuff like this in the past.

Speaker 21944s - 1954.34s

Oh, yes. By Snake PERSON, I mean like she has done something very blatant online or like via text combo or a phone call and then been like that didn't happen. No, she gaslighted like crazy.

Speaker 31954.94s - 1965.86s

But in this case, I guess I'm more on her side than like if, you know, if you're airing out something that's that personal, because Ariane PERSON, that's a very personal, like, thing.

Speaker 21966.02s - 1975.18s

Everything she's saying is very damaging. That's like her business partner. For Lala PERSON to come out and reveal that, that is crazy. But it's also Lala PERSON's job. I know.

Speaker 31975.28s - 1981.28s

It's great. It's great. Oh, you're, like, inserting yourself into, like, the one of these stable things about this show.

Speaker 21981.4s - 1984.6s

One of the most stable things about the show is Katie and Ariana right now.

Speaker 31985.5s - 1991.82s

And for her to, like, dismantle that even slightly is like, uh-oh. And you know it's pissing Lala PERSON off

Speaker 21991.82s - 2011.94s

that people in the comments are like, all I want to watch is a show about something about her. And I get that Lala PERSON's pissed off because no one actually wants that. I don't know why people take to their keyboards to write that down. I think Katie is like the biggest Gretchen Weiner PERSON. She always needs a queen bee.

Speaker 32013.06s - 2014.54s

Yep, the Stasi years.

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Yeah, and I think that Lala's upset that she wasn't the queen bee because I think she thought because Katie was really confining with her and they were building like a really good relationship. I think Lala PERSON expected to be able to be the Queen B, but she's still always, it's just like when she first started the series, Katie will never give her that. Lala's always just

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kind of on her own. She is. There's also something there there with the Lala and Brock PERSON. It's so odd to be accused by the comment section of having something there there.

Speaker 22050.6s - 2056.94s

And then to confidently be like, we're a thruple. Yep, yep.

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And for like Lala PERSON's immediate reaction, be like, well, yeah, my eyes do light up when I see him because he's such a good guy, because he's been such a good. She doesn't deny that her eyes light up when she sees him. I know.

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And then Sheena's like, yeah, we're best friends.

Speaker 32072.18s - 2073.48s

Yeah, we are a thruple.

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It's so true.

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I would let her sleep in between me and Brock PERSON.

Speaker 22076.88s - 2080.38s

I would have no problem with that, famous words of Sheena about Raquel PERSON.

Speaker 32084.48s - 2099.98s

I don't think you're entirely off base to think that there's something there there. Would that be a scandal on the level of Scandival PERSON if that became true? Or would that just be like, I guess the show's just like this now. Everyone is not that surprised by it.

Speaker 22099.98s - 2108s

I don't think it could be a scandal like Scandival PERSON just because we've been given the clues. Like the breadcrumbs are so out and about.

Speaker 42108.64s - 2112.26s

Where Scandival PERSON, we really didn't see that coming.

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Yeah.

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That was shocking.

Speaker 22115s - 2118.54s

It shocked America GPE. People who didn't even know about the show were shocked.

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Speaking of Sandoval, very funny that he's completely forgotten his whole conversation with Sheena about Ariana's mental health. He's like, give me one example of me, like, weaponizing that against you.

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He did something that I thought was, like, I didn't understand. So please help me out with this. He says, I'm not the smartest guy. Yep.

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There's no way he thinks that, right?

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He thinks he's a genius, right?

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I was also a little thrown off by him saying that. He thinks he's the smartest one of his cast for sure, and he always has thought that.

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I think he thinks he's the smartest guy in every room. I think he just said that, did he say it to give himself a get-out-of-jail-free card? It was so against his character to say something that he just said that. Did he say it to give himself a get out of jail free card? It was so against his character to say something that he inherently doesn't feel true. I think it's a get

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out jail free card. I think he's forced to say something like that when he's confronted with having said

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the dumbest shit anyone's like ever said. Compared his plight to George Floyd's. Sure. And I understand

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the sentiment there and that like it shouldn't be on the level of those things. That's what he's trying to say. It's like it's insane that like Scandival PERSON is like

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as is being discussed more than like that thing. But that's not what he's said. And like they say in

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this reunion like the way you phrase things has huge meaning and he just did not word it correctly.

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So when confronted with that and his phrasing, he's forced him saying like, yeah, I'm not the smartest guy. I can't, like, structure a sentence well. Or I can't, like, put the words together in the way I need them to be said.

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He didn't word it correctly because what we heard what he meant to say has been engineered after he said what he actually said. Yes.

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So, yeah, you're right. So maybe the meaning, maybe he did say it the way he wanted it to be said. Maybe that is also just me kind of like buying into like the correction of it now.

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Because it made us feel better about watching him on our screens if it was truly I'm going to

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speak. Yes, that's true. But yeah, I don't think he believes that he's not the number one guy in the group.

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Right.

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He is the smartest man.

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He's the one who's keeping them all.

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I think Schwartz is smarter than him. I think that's something that has become apparent over the past couple of years.

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Yes. And Schwartz is desperate to keep this show going. Thus, the proposal, thus that we're moving in together.

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It's crazy the Tom PERSON's are going to live together.

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They have to buy a place in the valley.

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That's so crazy.

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Well, I mean, Sheena and Lala live next to each other in Palm Springs GPE. It's Rupple ORG.

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He has himself some sister-wife action.

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And it was like five minutes away from each other in the valley.

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All right.

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Anything to be said except for like this is one of those reunions that I'm like, oh, we need two more episodes.

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James really freaked out about the Raquel PERSON stuff. Yes.

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We're getting a little bit of old James back.

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Yes.

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It's funny how he's like, this isn't relevant. I don't care. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Bored. And it's like, no, your reaction shows how bothered and unbored you are by this.

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It shows how, like, he may be more than anyone feels the most slided by how much attention Ariana got. Yes.

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When he thinks he deserves something from that whole thing, he, like, was really upset about

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how, like, everyone reacted to, like, him and Raquel PERSON's breakup.

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Right.

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And it feels like he just wants everyone to tell him that, like, he wasn't, like, a little shit in that relationship. But he was. He was, like, an evil man in that relationship with Raquel PERSON.

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Yes. Evil.

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And Ali PERSON says he's not, but...

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I don't know.

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I don't know. Ooh. I guess't know. Ooh.

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I guess to close off Vanderpump WORK_OF_ART, a lot of people have been posting the whole Sheena Katie thing because of Sheena's Schwartz and I made out in Vegas GPE. Oh, yeah, yeah.

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I fucking forgot about that entire thing.

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I thought it was huge at the time, and people agree because Katie was the most anti-Shena at the first season of Vanderpump WORK_OF_ART saying she's a homewrecker.

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And then look what happened with Katie and Sheena.

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Yep.

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And now the Sheena Lala Brock PERSON, I don't know, it's just cheaters, am I right?

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Yep, that's what Sandeval PERSON keeps saying.

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Look around.

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Awards.

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Awards, Alex, would you like to go first?

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Yes, and I can't believe we didn't bring this up when talking about the Valley LOC. Okay. But my two LaFoos award goes to Janet PERSON's friends.

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Yes. Oh my gosh, I can't believe that we didn't bring those at.

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Referred to as minions on some like, of her like evil minions on some social media posts and like Zach PERSON commented that yeah, they were like her minions that caused Janet to have this really angry response to Zach PERSON. But that like two minutes, I think, of watching them react to her, like, slaying on that call. Which she wasn't.

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No.

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There were reactions to her talking to Zach PERSON are so mismatched to what's happening. It's so crazy. They're so... I loved it. I love that scene.

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It was great. The scene was amazing. Also, Simon standing two inches from them actively texting.

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Like, he could have been more subtle. Yeah, full LaFU move to do that.

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Hilarious. I love it. I love Zach PERSON, by the way. He's risen quite a lot in my esteem these past

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couple weeks as a member on this show. Yes, I'm offended. He's not invited. All right. My Hips Don't Lie Award goes to Rachel, who we found out has two artificial hips.

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Did we know anything about the fact that she has crippling arthritis? Tragic.

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Yeah, no. Yeah, I didn't know this.

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Anyway, her hips are as fake as her nose. Damn, damn.

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All right. Well, thank you so much for joining me, Alex PERSON.

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Anytime.

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