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And welcome back fellow American patriots and Minutemen NORP standing at the ready to actually fight. For real, for what matters and the way it matters at the time it matters. Here at CR podcast, this is your host, Daniel Hurwitz PERSON. Back here today for May 9th, it is Thursday. And as always, it is time for a real revolution, even if we're not going to have itelsewhere. You know, speaking of the revolution, imagine if you live during a time of Paul Revere's PERSON ride, the Minutemen, the Redcoats NORP are coming, the Red Coats are coming, warning everyoneemphatically, you've got to fight, you got to fight. And then, in the to fight, you got to fight. And then, in the same breath, after they're done with their ride, going throughout the eastern part of Massachusetts, circle back the horses to the redcoats,the British, give them food, give them shelter, and give them the coordinates, the position of the Minutemen NORP's encampments, and ammo. Thankfully, we didn't have subversive leaders, but now it's not just that we have a lack of leadership. The people that run in front of us, say, give me the ball, give me the ball. Oh, the Unip Party, the Redcoats NORP are coming. It's not just the Democrats NORP are terrible terrible and then we need to do something aboutit and we need a revolution. They're coming after everything. They're persecuting us. Our economy, our way of life, demographics, you name the issue. But then they actually go and subvert anyeffort out there to actually fulfill and achieve the things that they say they want to do that we need to do. We're going to die as a people if we don't do. So it all came down yesterday.I hate to be right again and again. At some point, it's like there's nothing we can do anymore. I've done everything I can do at every single place. It's checkmate. It's checkmate because it's always going to be checkmate if embedded in your forces are fifth columns.We always had a movement as small as it was. Sometimes it was smaller. Sometimes it was larger. But now, the very sorts of voters and the sorts of elected officials that represent them that we would need to do anything about the Uniparty are completely subservient to the dominance of Trump PERSON.So we saw, for all of time, on display in the most vivid fashion yesterday, on the board. in the most vivid fashion yesterday, on the board. I thought it would be, you know, Hakeem Jeffries PERSON would have a little bit of embarrassment, so he'd only released maybe 30, 40 Democrats to support Johnson PERSON. Instead, he released all but 32.It was 163. I guess there were some that were absent and didn't vote, but 163 Democrats NORP. Out in the open, voting for McCarthy PERSON,for Johnson PERSON. Only 11 Republicans were willing to go on record. I mean, a few dozen want him gone, but once they realizedthat I'm not defending them, I'm just explaining what happened. I'm not happy they did this. I would have been a part of the 11, but they realized that I'm not defending them, I'm just explaining what happened. I'm not happy they did this. I would have been a part of the 11, but they realized that, look, Trump PERSON supports him, the Democrats NORP support him,so there's no purpose of me going on record, you know, is opposing him. So he just got 11 against him, and Trump PERSON came out before the vote. Trump PERSON was tipped off. They all worked it together,and he supported Johnson PERSON, he's a good man, doing a good job. And that's where we are. And Trump is making the Bob Dole PERSON arguments great again. This is 1996 all over again. The same things, it's all about unity.So in the same breath that it's like, oh, we don't have the numbers. You know, I agree, I'm not happy, but, you know, not everyone's a Freedom Caucus ORG guy. Not everyone's a conservative. Not everyone's a Chip Roy PERSON. Bob Good PERSON. Andy Biggs PERSON.We need more. And then in the next breath, oppose not just any leadership election but any primary to a single person on the hook for a challenger all under the guise of unityunite behind the Democrat NORP wing of the Republican Party that literally, not even like a Republican light, a hundred percent, the Democrats were booing Massey and MTG ORG on the floor. It was literally as if this was an R versus D fight because it was. It is unreal. And then before our eyes,Trump's like Mike Johnson PERSON is a good man who is trying very hard. Because Trump is a complete puppet of the same donors that Johnson PERSON's a puppet of. It's the same thing. It's why he's making all these endorsements. It's why he's flipping on abortion. It's why he's promoting the log cabinet Republicans. It's why he's flipped on Ukraine. It's why he's flipping on abortion. It's why he's promoting the log cabin Republicans. It's why he's flipped on Ukraine. Why he's flipped on Obamacare EVENT. So we're now in thisnightmare scenario. See, I thought, you know what, it's going to have to get worse where the Republicans NORP are so bad, betraying us so much that it's, you know, it's obvious they're with the Democrats NORP. They always were, but it was, you know, they were very good at fake fighting. I thought if we would ever get to this place, aha, at least then, wow, now there's a cathartic moment. Everyone's going to be focused on changing leadership, primaries, as the primaries are literallyplaying out and unfolding before our eyes. For example, in five days, Carol Miller PERSON, in the second district of West Virginia GPE, the Southern District, I think it's number two. I might be wrong, but it's the Southern one. She is one of the most left-wing Republicans NORP'Main Street Partnership ORG type, solid red district. And you have a J-Sixer who went to jail for Trump PERSON running against that was a former state legislator in West Virginia GPE, Derek Evans and it's likethere's no effort to even get involved and Trump and the best we could do is hey at least Trump PERSON hasn't yet endorsed Carol Miller how in the world are you going to change everything?And again, when you have a race like that, and even if you don't endorse, that is an endorsement of the status quo. Because if you control the entire money and focus of the party and you don't use it to what you say you are, and we know that the status quo is 99% incumbent wins, you're sealing the deal.But it's worse than that. Like we said in Indiana GPE, a tale of two incumbents. I'm going to repeat it again because Victoria Sparts of Indiana 4 or 5, Indiana 5, she was just re-nominated,but a very tough close re-election. She was one of the 11 to oppose Johnson PERSON. One of the 11. That's it. And you might think, well, Trump PERSON endorses all-incolments. Nope, only the rhinos.In adjacent district for the 78 year old rhino Jim Baird PERSON, he endorsed him, therefore he crushes his challenger. But Victoria Sparts, he did notendorse. She had a tough primary challenge and unlike, see, when it's the establishment running against our guys, even if they lose, the establishment comes close. They have the money. We badly need Trump PERSON's endorsement.We don't get it. But it's worse than that. Because in the case of Bob Good PERSON, he's downright supporting the challenger. I'm not saying this is going to happen. But if we don't change our focus, this will happen. Wouldn't it be amazing in the wrong way, in a demonic way?If after everything that is going on in this country, everything we've been through, we are through, and everything Republicans NORP are doing to subvert the cause against it and enable what is going on. If after all of that, not a single person goes down in a primary except one, the chairman of the Freedom Caucus, who opposed Ukraine GPE before it was cool, who opposed McCarthy before it was cool, full spectrum, maga, populace, everything you want, he would go down in a primary because of Trump PERSON, working hand-in-glove with McCarthy and all those donors throwing millions of dollars at him. You know, his challenger,this McGuire guy, has a pullout showing McGuire 14 points up. Now, it's his own poll, probably not true, but Bob Good PERSON is vulnerable. I'm just, I'm going to say that out in the open. I don't know exactly where it stands, but if a challenger is within 14, in a primary, that's a big deal. We never get to within 14. And I'm sure he is. So it used to be we had trouble winning open seats,we never beat incumbents, but at least a few incumbents we had, they couldn't beat us either. And Comments ORG always won. Now, because of Trump PERSON, good incumbents are going downbecause anyone who goes up against him, why do you think Bob Good didn't join the effort? Bob Good was not one of the 11. I know he wants Johnson PERSON gone. He has supported every single speaker's fight until now, even when he was only one of five. Because again, I'm not defending him. I'm just saying reality. He's scared ofTrump PERSON. Can you imagine that? He has to be scared of Trump and therefore vote for, vote to table the motion to vacate. I cannot think of a greater controlled opposition of all time that the very man that his supporters project upon him that he is the solution to the Uniparty ORG, he enables it more than anyone else while making us more unelectable and unappealableto middle of the road people and everyone else. Electorally unviable, and then lose every policy fight. You know, like I said, there's one thing, you act like a narcissistic asshole with the 2 a.m. Grammar and spelling-ridden, retarded narcissistic, you know, musings. Turn off all the voters. He can't win a national election. But, man, at least, okay, we're just musings, turn off all the voters. He can't win a national election.But, man, at least, okay, we're just going to recede into the red states where we can win and go pedal to the medal with Maga sort of people. No. He's screwing us with the general electorate while then delivering the reddest of red states to the idiots. So coming up, we're going to have on, and I know it's kind of futile. They wind up winning, but I have to lay the markerdown. I promise that I'm going to support listeners to our show that run for office. We have someone running in Minnesota 7. Trump PERSON has already endorsed the incumbent. Butit's an important race for a number of reasons I want to get to but can you imagine if all these people if can you imagine if entrepreneuring people that are everyone's like it felt how about that normal peoplecan't one for office yeah because you assholes love the abnormal people you love the politicians because the minute we put up one who's not, you make fun out of them, you reject them. You are addicted to the very people you say you hate. But if they knew that if I were to challenge them, I would be able to get on the top 30 in iTunes ORG shows. And then certainly you get to support of Trump PERSON. You cannot imagine the degree of candidate recruitment.We would have. But we'll get to him later. Our sponsor today is our friends at Raycon ORG. You know, after you listen to this show, you're going to need to relax with music. Raycon has now updated their famous everyday earbuds with a new model.I actually just used it yesterday. I had a problem with my setup here. So I had to change my setup when I was on Steve PERSON's show. I was a guest on his show like my usual Wednesday segment. So I was using the new Raycon model, everyday earbuds. The difference is they also now have an active noise cancellation mode, ergonomic design, and multi-point connectivity that lets youpair two devices at once, which we're all with the gadgets now. So it's a very, very important. It also has a new quick charge function and weatherproof. So when you get all sweated up like I do exercising, it's really it's a godsend. Seriously, if you've been wanting to check outRaycons ORG, there's truly no better time now with their upgraded model. 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But let's say there's a problem that at every strategic point that you would cross that river, that you would need to cross to surreptitiously outflank the other army,there is strategically stationed there, a cadre of people wearing your uniform managing to block you from getting over. Would you say, well, they're still my Lansman PERSON.They're my people. You know, they're better than the opposing army. I have to focus more on the opposing army. What do you mean? We can't focus on that army so long as they're blocking us. The problem we had pre-Trump GOP ORG, which is the same problem we have in the post-Trump GOP,nothing has changed. In fact, as my buddy Steve Dees PERSON says, it's the same cake, but the frosting is zanier. In fact, since the primary, the frosting isn't even zanier. It's the same faggot-retarded, Bob Dole, John McCain PERSON. We have to unify. We can't have inter-party fight.Same arguments. Same establishment loser arguments. It just might have grammar and spelling mistakes and sound narcissistic. I don't know why that somehow makes it more right-wing. Same loser arguments, in addition to the loser actions, but even the argumentsare Bob Dole PERSON. Heck, Bob Dole PERSON was 73 at the time. This guy is like 78. And that's, that, by the way,it's 1996. We threw away an election. There was never a second we thought that Bob Dole PERSON could win. Because we felt it was O-Tim. He was the Senate ORG Majority Leader.He was the elder statesman Republican NORP. It's not about what the leaders could do for us, what we could do for them. Same thing here. Just throw it away. Okay. So, this is what Trump PERSON does.And, but it's not about Trump PERSON. It's the same thing. Again, back to my point, I lost my train of thought there, the same party before and after Trump PERSON, in that the reason why we never, ever change the party. Okay? The reason, and I want you to bookmark this, I want you to write this down, I want you to remember it. I want you to play it on half the speed. Repeat it over and over again for everyone you know.It's a simple point. It all boils down to the unswerving allegiance that Republican voters and talk show hosts have to the GOP ORG, no matter what, no matter how, no matter what they do, no matter who is in charge. It's the same thing.It's the GOP ORG. It was Brownie PERSON. It was McCain PERSON. It was Bush PERSON. Now it's Trump PERSON. It's no matter what they do, we got to support the GOP ORG.So you have no deterrent. If they know that ahead of time, if you are willing to no matter what support them, nothing will change. Nothing will change until we go to war with them the way they are at war with us. And when you're blocking those strategic abilities for us to fight the enemy, you are the enemy, you're one with them,you're actually indispensable to the enemy more than the enemy. I could go through this, and the smart ones among you know this. Depends on the time circumstance in office, but more often than not, it is actually negative. It's worse to have them. So not only do we need to fight them in the primaries, but ultimately we need the deterrent that we will not support your people if they win the primary. We will not support them in a general election. Until you're willing to do that, unless you follow my lead and make your biggest advocacy grassroots within the party to change from primaries to conventions, that is the only tool you have.But it all boils down to they could anally rape us again and again and again. And it's like, not just all reluctantly, but we haveally rape us again and again and again. And it's like, not just all reluctantly, but we have to unify and we're going to support everything. It's like it's our job to get on to their perfidist plantation, not the other way around. Not to use hardball to get them on ours. So if you do that, it's going to continue happening.This is the game. They run in primaries on our issues. They even, the minute they get it, not even such a legitimate challenger, but anything that has a 1% chance of beating them. Our next guess is an example of that. The incumbent changes the voting record, votes along with leadership. You have to understand, this is what's so dangerous.See, there's the open rhinos and then there's the undocumented rhinos. So the open ones generally reliably always vote for the bad bills. But then there's the... But here's the problem.Here's the dirty little secret. What's one of our talking points that Johnson is passing bills when a majority of Republicans NORP are voting against it? Well, you guys got to start thinking for a minute. If a majority of Republicans really opposed it, Johnson PERSON would have no ability just to read the room to stand up in that conference and do that. The answer is, as you very well know, that's the vote no hope yes game.Those people are indispensable to Johnson PERSON's operation and whoever came before him and whoever will come afterwards. See, again, if it's just the 60 in the Rhino ORG caucus that are causing a problem, so then you could easily pick them off, you have the majority of support, but it's not. It's only a few dozen, depending on the issue, 30 to 60, who are on the right side, everyone else, they're playing a game.So what they do is, if they're in a very red district, they just strategically vote the right way because he doesn't need their votes, because he's voting with the Democrats NORP anyway, so they could vote no. But if they were really that upset about it, they would support our efforts to actually go to war. See, if you're like,I just want to quietly vote the right way. That's not a strategy in this era because maybe on one or two bills, but if the guy is literally handing over the chamber to the Dems NORP, and you're like, I'll vote no. By the way, you go into the media, there's tons of people who technically voted no on thesebills and they're viciously attacking any effort to change things. Primaries, the leadership. So says, well, wait a minute. If you're really a no vote, why are you not upset about it? The answer is because they're not really a no vote and they're not upset about it. They support it. In fact, Johnson wants it that way because if they openly, if every Republican NORP who is really on Johnson PERSON's side would vote badly on the issues, it would be easier to knock them off. So they strategically, and this is going to be the case with Michelle Fishbach PERSON in Minnesota 7,Steve Boyd, her challenger is coming up in a moment. So she just decided the minute she knew she would have a challenger, she just stopped voting for omnibus bills. She did it in her first term. Second term, she doesn't vote for it anymore. Okay?So this is the game that's being played. And my point is, I don't know how you break through that. If Trump PERSON is never going to support our guys and often, more often than not support the bad guys, and then they run on being Trump PERSON, they run on our issues. I mean, let me just tell you how shameless this is. Okay, so even if you disagree with me on certain Republicans, everyone knows lockdown Larry Hogan, former governor of Maryland GPE, is a huge, huge leftist.Okay? So when he was governor, we begged him to deal a sanctuary cities. Maryland is just saturated with Salvadoran MS-13s in Montgomery, PG counties, even Frederick County is full of them now taken over to the nice part of Western Maryland LOC. And he refused. He viewed people like us as white trash.You know, I want to focus on being responsible governing, like, you know, stop with these polarizing issues. That was his whole thing. And this bastard has the nerve. I opened my mailbox yesterday, and we got a mailer from him.Hogan and the Senate's going to fight Biden PERSON on the border. I'm like, USOB PERSON. I mean, even though he has the primary locked up, I mean, by a mile, as no one could beat him, he has, you know, a thousand percent name ID from being the only Republican NORP governor in recent memory and only major Republican in the state at all. So, I mean, no one can beat him.I mean, I'm going to vote against him. But, you know, he's got it. He still finds the need in a primary, even in a state like Maryland GPE. That's how much they lie. Even a guy at the left goalpost of the Republican Party ORG, much less the more like strategically fake conservatives.That's what they do. Every one of them, they run on our issues. They have a million times more money and name ID to do it. I don't know what you do. Now the answer is there is one tool we have left to do. See,even though we only have a small minority, if we would just say we're going to take a chunk of the base, might just be 25%, but we will not vote for you in the general. Depending on the district, they'll often have trouble winning their seat.And that's why I will not vote for lockdown, Larry PERSON. I will not vote for any of these people. I am a never rhino. It's not out of frustration. It's not emotional. It's strategic.A, it's actually worse to have them because Democrats need Republican NORP cover to do really transformational bad things. And B, you're never going to have deterrent if they know that we are somaniacally scared of their jerks not winning and so called beating the Democrats NORP. But at a minimum, even if you don't agree with me on the final, that minute that you have thegeneral election ballot in front of your eyes and hands, you don't agree with me, that's fine, but at a minimum at least between the elections, you have to go to war with them. This is the difference.And what we're seeing last night with only 11 Republicans voting against Johnson this whole see there's a cadre of peoplethat aren't frauds in the sense that they really believe in what we believe in but they're adamantly opposed they don't want to they don't want to go to warat the end of the day they still view them as their lost brothers the GOP ORG establishment. And that's the mistake. I was there 20 years ago, maybe 15 years ago. But now that has changed, or it was always like that, but maybe I finally saw the light.You can't operate like that. You're never going to change anything. This is what the state freedom caucuses are approving now, where the federal freedom caucus has failed. You can't just be a conservative club that you just kind of complain about things, vote no on bad bills, but they don't need you so that you have to be willing to use the few leverage points you have to go to war with the fake Republicans with the same intensityyou with the Democrats NORP. Okay, before I get to our guest, I just want to bring out this one point. In Missouri GPE, we had the first examplethat I know of out of the several hundred members of various state freedom caucuses, of a member that was part of a freedom caucus that has resigned and left the freedom caucus. So it's the first one, and it's very revealing. It's a woman named Jill Carter, I think she's from the southwestern part of Missouri GPE, I believe.32nd District of Missouri GPE, she was part of the founding Freedom Caucus that started last year. And this was, I think, last week, I'm just reading she put out on Twitter ORG. Today I've decided to leave the Missouri State Freedom Caucus ORG. This decision was not made lightly.It's the best interest of my constituents. Over the past few months, it has become increasingly clear that the values and priorities that some current members of the caucus professed the champion are not reflected in conversations, behaviors, or strategy.While I remain loyal to the same conservative principles and advancement of the legislation that benefits our state and my constituents, I can no longer in good conscience be part of behaviors and actions. Listen to this. Behaviors and actions behind the scenes that defames grassroots and violates the needs of my constituents. You know, I want to solve problems she talks about.And, you know, I don't know much about her, but from the little I've inquired about, I think she's genuinely, you know, wants what we want. Hence, that's why she originally joined the Freedom Caucus ORG. But, you know, and again, I'm loath to put words in her mouth, but the impression I get, and this is why we have to be so careful, it's better to start with a smaller caucus that's solid than bring in wishy-washy people. Jill Carter, this random, you know, Missouri House ORG member, is the type of member that would be decent,if not exceptional and good, if we already controlled the chamber and we put out our priority, she'll vote for them. And there are a lot of people that are like that. But we'll often have these primaries, and even some of my allies will be like,Daniel PERSON, really like, this guy is not good enough for you? I'm like, did they pledge to join the Freedom Caucus ORG? And you see it from last night, it's not like everyone on the Freedom Caucus or even half of them are that great. But if you're not willing to go on recordthat you will oppose leadership, all your talk about, oh, I believe in this, on immigration, this on budget, it's meaningless because right now they're in control. So I could fantasize about what I would do if I got over to that other side of the river all I want and maybe even believe it.But if you're not willing to punch those people in the face to dislodge the blockers, you're not going to be able to do any of that. So for example, Missouri, it's like, Republicans NORP want to get rid of this ability of the abortionists to have these initiative petitions on the state ballots. And leadership refuses to allow it to vote. So what the Freedom Caucus did is they filibustered GOP ORG bills in order to gain leverage over that.And I think that's part of what bothers her. Like, we shouldn't be disrupting this order to gain leverage over that. And I think that's part of what bothers her. Like we shouldn't be disrupting this, holding up bills like that. But what else are you going to do? These people like,and this is what has happened before Andy Roth and the state freedom caucuses, that in various chambers you had a small minority of people that would consistently vote the right way. But what's the point in being, they want a nerdy, she thought the Freedom Caucus ORG wouldbe like a club, a conservative club. Okay, we put out papers, this is what we stand for, maybe, okay, when leadership puts something out that you don't like, you'll vote no. But, you know, between the Democrats and the overwhelming majority of Republican NORP establishment and the members that will always go with the establishment, even if they could be swayed in a, you know, if we were in charge, they'll win. So, I mean, you'll just lose until the end of times.Unless you are willing to force votes, expose them, block and tackle, and then campaign against them with the same rigor you would and treat them rhetorically, and certainly in primaries, and on social media, the same way you would a Democrat, because they are, as we saw last night with Johnson PERSON, you're not going to change anything. This is the Elijah on Mount Carmel FAC moment. How long are you going to straddle the fence? If you're with bail, go with bail. If you're with bail, go with bail. If you're with God, go with God. There's no middle ground.That's where it is now. They're not wayward brothers that just need a little bit of help. They don't share our values. The core GOPers NORP support expansionist immigration. They support criminal justice deform.They support endless growth of government in most expenditures. They support the welfare state. They certainly support endless foreign aid. That's how they are. They will never buck the system. They certainly support the medical cartel and the vaccine cartel.They're not going to change on their own. And if you don't take the freedom caucuses in the states and build upon them, and what does that mean that you go towar with Republicans NORP? Now, I'm taking a step further. They haven't said this yet. I think you need to pledge not to vote for them in the general. But if that's too messy for you, at least try to fight that we don't have to be forced into that decision. And at least fight them on the legislation, fight them on the leadership battles, fight, you know, use the not just vote no, but if you understand that it, you know that things have to change, lay down on the tracks and then obviously recruit and grow primary challengers. If you're not going to do that, you're worthless.I can't tell you how many of my friends would have, there's so many sitting members of Congress now, they're like, Daniel, I have a candidate for you, and they're there to this day, and they're horrible. They will never fight leadership. It's worthless, and they'll emphatically shame and trash anyone who does. You can't win with that. So anyway, this Jill Carter PERSON thing was very revealing because, you know,thankfully we haven't had that, and that speaks to the quality of how they recruited their initial rosters. But I, you know, I thank her for her candor. But, you know, until and unless we gain majorities in these chambers, members who aren't willing to do the fight to enable us to dislodge them are completely worthless.I'll never forget when I interviewed Ben Sass PERSON, you know, when he was running in a primary. And Ben PERSON was regarded as a brilliant conservative thinker and everything. He'd say everything you want. But he openly admitted. So I would talk to them about budget bills and are you willing to fight through a government shutdown and fight leadership? And he actually offered on his own basically no.I wouldn't do that. So it's worthless. Theoretical conservatism is worthless at this stage of life. Which leads me to my next guest. So speaking of theoretical conservatism, nowhere is this more evident than with the primaries. Never have we had a time where there was this much betrayal on issues of this much gravity. Yet, it's occurring not like right before the primaries during the congressional primaries. And it's bizarre that I'm the only one that's going down the schedule week by week and saying,here are the opportunities, here are the candidates. And, you know, I promised that if anyone would run for office from this audience that listens to my show, listens to Steve Dase's PERSON show,you know, we're going to have their back. And look, I'm not going to lie to you. I've already said that outside of converting state conventions over to, you know, the final primary, I just, I don't see us winning. I just don't see it. You know, not when you have both Trump and the McCarthy PERSON Johnson money working with the power of incumbency and, you know, even in open seats and sometimes even our own incumbents.I don't see how we're going to work that. I just don't see it. But nonetheless, we always sit and lament, oh, we should have better Republicans NORP. Oh, people need to be doing this. But, you know, very few people throw their hat in the ring.It's not easy to be in the public. It's not easy to put together a campaign. So when someone actually does it, shouldn't we have their back? So one thing that embodies what we're talking about is the race for Minnesota GPE 7. Now, you might think Minnesota GPE's a blue state, but Minnesota 7 is the district that hugs the western portion of the state.It's a rural district. It's an R-plus 19 seat. So, I mean, we should have a Chip Roy PERSON level candidate from there. And we have Michelle Fishbach PERSON, who's the incumbent, strategically make sure to vote properly once she has a challenger,but we'll never, ever fight for us. And again, we're for outcomes, not intentions or input. Either you get the uniparty or you get change. If you have someone who's not willing to fight leadership, they might strategically votethe right way, but in fact, they're actually ironically, with those votes strategically helping leadership block out people who will actually fight them. So we have a man named Steve Boyd PERSON,who's a fan of this show, a big fan of Steve Dase PERSON. He's a small business owner, grew up in the western part of the state, and he is putting his hat in the ring for this thankless job of challenging an incumbent, promising to join the Freedom Caucus ORG, promising to actually stand up for the values of his district, not theoretically, but in a practical way. You could go to Boyd4.com ORG.That's Steve Boyd's PERSON website. It's B-O-Y-D without the E. Boyd4House.com, and he's with us today. Hey, Steve, thanks so much and welcome to Blaze Media for the first time. Yeah, absolutely.

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Thank you so much for having me on. Like I said, big fan. And I appreciate what you're doing to get the word out there about these important races. And we're in the midst of one of them.

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So I first want to start with your opponent. And then I want to get to conventions. I want to get to some of the issues. So some people might look at you and say, look, I go to Heritage Actions, scorecard, their website. And for this term, she has like a 93 score and seem to vote against the Ukraine GPE bill and the fight, you know, the voted for a warrant for FISAand voted against this omnibus bill. So look, I mean, she doesn't seem to be the problem. We might have a lot of problems, but she's not one of them. Why are you running?

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Well, you know, I think that kind of encapsulates why. I mean, so many times we're going to the voting scorecard to find out if our guy is part of the problem or, you know, if it's just everyone else. And we got a 13% approval rating. I think it is of Congress ORG, but a very high incumbent re-election rate. It doesn't quite add up. And nowhere was it more on display than just a couple weeks ago with all those foreign aid packages coming through. And I think you covered this on your show recently, the rules vote that was done ahead of time to kind of co-opthe whole thing, slap it all together and push it through. And then you show up on, she was part of that. And then you show up on Saturday and vote against Ukraine GPE like your district wants you to. And too often we have these candidates that are changing their voting record when there's a challenger or when it's an election year. And you and I both know, and I think a lot of the listeners, this show are going to know how you can manufacture those voting records. They can tell you who can vote yes, who can vote no, if you got a challenger. What we need is true conservative leadership.And that's why I jumped in is because, as you referenced, we have a R19, you know, can be even higher, I think, depending on how you look at it, a district, which should have a House Freedom Caucus type member, chip Roy type member from this district. It's supported. We have the conservative values here. And here we have just another status quo, a Republican that writes the party line. And as a father of five kids and so many other kids and stuff that we worked with and you look at the future and you look at the party and how we continue to fail to lead, I felt the duty to step in. And that's something we don't talk about much anymore, right? It's the concept of duty. But that's really what it is. And frankly, I think people are ready for it. We're at a time where people are starting to pay attention. That's a good thing about things being so bad.And I think we can capture that and actually take it forward and start making a difference.

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Well, I certainly appreciate your optimism. And again, I don't want to dump on that because, you know, you're the one actually putting your hat in the ring. We're not going to change things behind a microphone like I do. We're going to change things with people like you. But I am very pessimistic. And I watch how cynical this is.I have watched every single primary. It's been about 10 states, 10 to the 50 or so, I've held primaries so far. And it's like clockwork. You're one of the later states. This is in August 13th primary. So towards the end of the cycle. So you got a little bit of time. And that's why I want to get ahead of this as we focus're one of the later states. This is in August 13th primary, so towards the end of the cycle.

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So you got a little bit of time, and that's why I want to get ahead of this as we focus on some of the ones in the next few weeks.

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But I'm noticing anyone, you know, so you've raised about $110,000, which, I mean, she has like a million dollars.

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It's going to be, it's not, you know, you're going to need more. And that's why people need to go to boyd forhouse.com.

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It's not, you know, you're going to need more, and that's why people need to go to Boyd PERSON forhouse.com. But, you know, it's not like it typically is, which is zero, 10, 20,000. So I've noticed anyone who crosses the 100,000 marker where there's like a realm of possibility that they could be in trouble, they all are on lockdown with their voting record, even when I know for a matter of fact, we know from private conversations that they're on the other side of it. I wanted to get your comment on the fact that Fischbach, I noticed, and this is astounding. So she voted for the omnibus bill in 2022 when it wasa Democrat Charfactor. So that was the Democrat House ORG. So, you know, then it's, I mean, that's pretty bad because Republicans NORP almost always vote no on a, you know, because it's easy because Democrats have the votes without Republicans. So, you know, they just all vote no. But yet she voted for it. But then, you know, when it's officially the Republican NORP bill, even though, you know, it's just as bad, she votes no on it. What do you take from that?

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Well, I mean, it's unexplainable. I don't understand. Like you said, when you're in the minority and you have a bill that bad, that's an easy vote, no. And, you know, we've argued to this point, there's so many, you could put, you know, plug in pretty much any standard Republican NORP and be able to maintain a voting record if you, if you work with a party and right, you know, in lockstep. But to vote, yes, on an omnibus bill in general, I'm against omnibus bills altogether, but to vote yes on one that when you have Democrat NORP control, that's unexplainable.But then you have, like you said, then you vote no. When we're in power and facing a challenge, that just really exposes, I think, the mindset of where the true intentions lie. And it lies with, you know really exposes, I think, the mindset of where the true intentions lie. And it lies with, you know, thinking that government is the answer. I think that's really the mindset that has a lot of these have, even with supposed conservative values, is that we're going to fix the government problem with more government.And you've got to keep the special interest happy. You've got to keep the special interest happy. You got to keep your colleagues in Congress ORG happy. You got to stay there. Whatever the intention is, if maybe you have good intentions of doing something, but if your intention is that you have to stay there to do what needs to be done and you start making compromises for that, that's how you start ending up with these types of unexplainable votes, unexplainable record, and really no action on anything because we're just always in theprocess of trying to maintain our career.

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So one of the other problems we have from districts like yours, and I think this is a subtle point I've said over the years, but it cuts to the core of why we don't limit government, why we don't have a conservative majority, is that we always view rural America GPE as, man, that's our base, whereas it should be the beauty, Norman Rockwell's America GPE, rugged individualism, farming, agriculture, one with the land, God, faith, country, patriotism, especially when you just see all the demonic things taking place in urban America GPE now. But what is so said about that is that you talk about special interests and growing government.What I've noticed over the years is the Republicans hooked in with big agriculture that really dominates politics and districts like Minnesota GPE 7, politics and districts like Minnesota GPE 7, they have acculturated our base and our core areas. Remember, our anchored majority of those best districts are going to be in rural areas, often big farming districts, and depending on the area, depending which crop. And what they've done is, okay, we oppose, everyone hates the other person's special interests, but they want theirs. So what we've gotten is we've, we oppose, everyone hates the other person's special interests, but they want theirs.So what we've gotten is we've gotten the growth of the defense. They get theirs. Ag gets theirs. The urban gets theirs. So every single Republican NORP, almost every single Republican from solid red districts, but very strong farming ag districts. They might be conservative on certain issues, but they all have supported these five-year Stalinist NORP farm bills that have had government distorting the market, consolidating corporatefarming, inflates, artificially inflates the price of land on behalf of really city slicker owners that are living in New York GPE City and Wall Street. The individual family farmer is going the way of the individual doctor and the two industries are very closely tracking with commensurate with how much government market distortions is how much we have a monopoly. It ties into pricing of food. It ties into food security. And I'm just going to throw this at you.I mean, in my experience, I've only seen one Republican NORP I could think of that was from a super ag district that stood up to it, Tim Hulskamp last decade from Kansas GPE, and he was defeated in a primary because of it. How do you plan on running as a conservative for the individual farmer while opposing the corporate farming industry, which owns these districts?Yeah.

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Yeah, the farmers I talk to, you know, even some of the larger, more would you consider corporate farms, they're very concerned about the amount of government regulation, the amount of federal involvement in farming, the waters of the USA GPE battle right now. The regulations down to just the deaf systems and the tractors, and it's affecting, they're starting to understand how it's affecting the input costs, how it's affecting the overall economy of farming.And they're very concerned about that. They want to get government out of their way.

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I mean, you look at now in the current Farm Bill, they're trying to put in, the CDC ORG is trying to get involved in, and coming in and bringing federal teams to monitor the health of the workers that are in there.

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And there's so many aspects that it's just all getting put in there. And the food welfare and everything is getting put into the farm bill because they know, like you said, everyone is going to vote for it to support the farmers. Well, how do we really support the farmers? We get government out of their way. We get the government regulations, the climate agenda.The climate agenda is just intertwined throughout the farm bill legislation that the Democrats are putting forward all the way through it. It's all tied into it.

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And we're heading the way of, and the farmers see this, we're heading the way of Europe LOC.

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What's going on there right now if we continue on the same path. We're putting the front end load, the front end burden on the farmers through the federal regulations and then dangling the programs out at the end as a safety net. You're creating the problem. We saw this doing so many different things through COVID and everything, right? It's a common government approach, create the problem, and then dangle the solution that is tied with government, tied with government regulations, and you have to play their game to do it.So, of course, you could take part in the federal program, you know, then you have to follow the climate rules and the, you know, equity rules and everything like that. Anytime does the federal money tied to it. And it's coming more apparent and people are starting to rise up against that. So I think it's actually a winning message with the farmers. And as you referenced, the individual family farmers going by the wayside. You look at Minnesota GPE alone, the dairy farms, the number of dairy farms you used to have, and I wish I could remember the number off the top of my head, but compared to now, is astonishing and alarming moving forward, and we're seeing more consolidation. I think the lastreport I saw now net revenue is going to be down around 23% this year. That's a massive number. That's going to lead to more consolidation and continue to push out our average family farms, and not to mention being punished on the back end as they try to hand it down to the next generation, which has been the tradition in ag, which has been,

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yeah, exactly. It's unbelievable for people that, you know, don't follow that. I mean, you're talking about people who are not cash wealthy, but obviously, especially with the insane land depreciation, and some of that's due to the overutilization of certain artificially propped up crops by these commodity titles and these farm bills is that, you know, you could be a, you know, very squarely middle class, but then I don't know, you're sitting on millions of dollars worth of acreage and you pass that on.

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You have to pay off, who knows what, some of debt tax,

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hundreds of thousands, sometimes seven figures, or I have to sell off portions of the land.

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And guess who buys that land, of course, the cronies that are pushing for those sort of tax

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regulatory subsidy authorities. It's so insidious. But you're proffering an interesting idea.

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You're saying that there was always a carrot and a stick. You're saying that the stick has become so much more evident that we're able to

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fight against the whole package now. Yeah, I believe so, and I think there's an appetite for it. We can continue to run on that as a principle matter anyway, so it's one of those things for me that you'regoing to stand on regardless of the political implications, which applies to so much of our campaign. But I think it's a winning message. We're just, there's so many, I believe there's so many winning messages within the conservative arena right now that we are just too conditioned to be afraid to broach that we could actually really go out and win if we were just willing to stand on it. But we're just, we're too fearful to actually take them on. And we have an opportunity that we should be taking.

Speaker 23051.24s - 3144.84s

So you probably heard me talk about this before. And I think your race is a textbook example of this. I have noticed year after year. We have conventions in a lot of states. A lot of them we don't. But obviously, we don't have any full-proof convention for most offices in any state. Utah GPE was the one we did. Now we don't. So it just gives you kind of the party endorsement, but you still have a primary.What I have noticed is that even with the candidates that are so outgun, like in your case, it'll probably be outgun 10 to 1. But you get before a convention, and it is, you know, much more even, if not, much more beneficial to our candidates.And so in your case, nobody got, you need 60% of the delegates for an endorsement, and nobody got, you, you held her off. So she did not get the party endorsement. And again, this is pretty, you know, pretty strong showing from you because, again, some of the people in Utah GPE, they were like just known rhinos with horrible records. In this case, Michelle PERSON is kind of relatively new. She hasn't been there that long,and she's made sure to strategically most of the time vote the right way. So you and I kind of get the game, but that's a lot harder to get people to toss someone out. Explain what happened there at the convention, the vote tallies, and the lessons going forward we can learn from that.

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Well, yeah, I mean, it was a really interesting convention, the vote tallies, and the lessons going forward we can learn from that. Well, yeah, I mean, it was a really interesting convention and we have a really interesting scenario in Minnesota GPE especially. So we came into the convention, as you mentioned, able to prevent an endorsement from a sitting incumbent. She had the Trump PERSON endorsement, which you know carries a lot of weight with a lot of people. In fact, she had a video from Trump PERSON at the convention as part of her speech.

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And, you know, we got out and just really work to the people. You're talking about 400 delegates that you're targeting directly and able to convince over. And if you get 60% of that, you'll walk away with a party endorsement. to convince over. And if you get 60% of that, you'll walk away with a party endorsement. Well, but the really tricky part with our case is it was not a level process.

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And I know I've heard you talk about the conventions and I completely agree with you. That is the best way to get his conservative candidates to be bolstered forward. But in our case, you have, and not only in our district in Minnesota, but in our district, you have a direct employee of Michelle Fishbach, who's the chairman of the district overseeing the endorsement process. You also have that in CD6 and Tom Emmer's district. So they control the fact. And, you know, we didn't sign the, they have pledges that they, to honor the endorsement. We did not sign that due to all the conflicts of interest. We had one of our counties with 10% of the delegates where they have basically disenfranchised the whole caucus because of what was going on and the grounds while we were having. And so you coming into that, we, we didn't even have access to about 30% of the delegates. We never even got the delegate list because we, you know, weren't playing ball with the party controlling powers and still able,even not even knowing who 30% of the delegates coming in the convention were, we're able to hold that off. And so if you're able to get your parties in line where we're actually having a level

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playing field and supporting conservative candidates and where we can, then that process can be really good. But unfortunately, in that process, it's robbed with insider, you know, party corruption as well.

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We got a lot of work. Yeah, party game. But what was your vote total? Like, what percentage did you get in the end?

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So it was a 54 to 45. I think the final vote was 53, 43 after three rounds.

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So you got 45 and then 43? Right. So again, I mean, so even you didn't have access to 30%, that went bad, but I'm just telling you, I'm just going to,again, I'm not trying to, you know, talk you down and, you know, with God's help, this will succeed. We do have a few months here. It's an August primary, again, Boyd for House.com ORG. But I'm just saying despite all of that, at the end of the day, what I'm seeing is the median challenger performance so far this year is 25 to 30.So, again, you didn't have access to even 30%. You had that whole thing was orchestrated. And still, you kept it pretty close. And in that case, you need 60 to get the endorsement and denied her the endorsement. And again, again, your case is a lot more anomalous than some of these others because she's relatively new and got a challenger in her second term already,so made sure to be on lockdown, makes it a lot harder to tick people off. But again, if we would actually make the conventions a mainstay, and they would know that that will determine things, it would require a lot more of them,and we'd be able to pick these fights. And, you know, so let me just give you the last word because we're out of time. We'll have you back again closer to the time. And, you know, so let me just give you the last word because we're at a time. We'll have you back again closer to the time. Again, Boyd-for-house.com. You know, what should we be thinking about, you know, as we commence these majority of these primaries, the next four or so months?

Speaker 03379.08s - 3460.8s

Yeah, you know, I think we really have to come in with a different approach that we have. If we try to go in, and this is what all the political insiders tell you, you've got to play the game and you got to do the buzz points and the talking points and kind of the empty stuff, what we've got to do is we got to get to the people. And you and Steve PERSON and others are doing a great job of educating the public, getting them involved and understanding, you know, getting back to the root causes of things, instead of just all the reactionaryand, you know, meet sounding principles that sound good, but there's really no action forward. We got to bring a message of actual action too often it is the Democrats NORP are terrible vote for us. That's the message, right? That doesn't actually get us anywhere. We actually have to come out with a message that provides hope, provides solutions moving forward, and we have to get out with a message that provides hope, provides solutions moving forward, and we have to get directly to the people. That's how we're going to win this thing, and I think that's how we're going to win these races in other places. You're not going to outspendthem, but we have an opportunity in this climate where people are waking up. They're looking for action points. They're looking for ways to get involved and make a difference. We've got to provide that. We've got to outwork them. We've got to out message them. And I think we can actually have a movement across the nation if we're willing to do that. But if we continue to play the, you know, from a place of comfort and just complacency, we're never going to overcome the uniparty as we both detest.

Speaker 23461.58s - 3472.58s

Exactly. Comfort and complacency. It won't change it itself. You can't yell about the uniparty and then say we need to unify and never do anything that will actually change it.

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So then, well, yeah. You know, either

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I was asked a question.

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I'm sorry.

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Either you're with bail or with God PERSON.

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Right.

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Well, and I always ask the question.

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Yes, we need unity.

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But what are we unifying around?

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We're unifying around the letter next to the name and the party itself? Are we going to unify around an actual set of principles with a message and push forward?

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Well, until now we've been unifying behind their message, which is the Democrat message, but you've got to beat the Democrats NORP, so therefore we have to give the Democrats everything they want, you know, until the next election, then we have to do the same thing again. And, you know, rinse and repeat our entire lifetimes has got to change. It's only going to change with people like you. Now, I'm just going to warn you, I would be giving you a hard time if you were in a red state. I would yell at you for not running for legislature, but you get a dispensation because I don't see much good in that in the dynamic there either. So you may as well kind of isolate your district and get at least a good federal rep. Boyd for House ORG, B-O-O-D-4-House.com is the website.Where else could people follow you?

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They can find us on Facebook, Twitter, or what is it, X-Mow, and Instagram ORG, all at the Boyd for House ORG handle.

Speaker 23544.26s - 3566.02s

Well, again, boyd for house.com ORG, folks, let's put our money where our mouth is. Steve PERSON, God bless you for, you know, trying to dig a little deeper, do a little bit more. We're not going to do it in our comfort and complacency, and I think that's a brilliant message.We need more people like you. We wish you luck on the campaign trail. We'll have you back again. God PERSON bless. Thanks so much, Daniel PERSON.

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Take care.

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So, folks, again, I mean, I am very loathe to talk down people because I hate being a thumb sucker. You know, I used to use that term a lot, thumb sucker. You know, when we just sit behind a microphone, thuck our thumb and, eh, you know, I don't think that's going to work. Well, then, you know, yeah. So, I mean, obviously, if nothing changes, he will lose, you know, 70-30. But it doesn't have to be that way. And I think that's a tremendous achievement. You know, she comes in there superficially with a perfect record, at least this term, Trump PERSON's endorsement and couldn't get the party endorsement at the convention. And he said he was denied access to 30% of the delegates, meaning he probably would have been able to win that,but at least denied her the endorsement. Again, that actually proves my point that generally speaking, and again, you know, that place again, you know, not all states did we take over the party as much as, you know, Minnesota GPE is not as good as some others where we're going to have better luck, but it's going to be whatever it is, it's going to be exponentially better than it is now. And I'm going over time. This is a very long show, but I'm obligated to tell you this.A lot of people have asked me about the conservative review scorecard. And honestly, I don't have a lot of answers myself. It's internal stuff. But I'm just going to give over to you what I think I can just without giving over insider stuff. And then what I think about it is. So Steve PERSON here brought up the interesting concept that he feels like these legislativescorecards are no longer helpful. And I have felt that for a number of years. Let's just say I was instrumental in some of the brainchild for some of these scorecards when they became popular during the 2010 kind of Tea Party ORG era, even before I had the, you know, the CR scorecard, the Liberty Score PRODUCT. Now, the reason it went, you know, it stopped being updated, is just that was just a corporatedecision because, nothing to do with ideology. It's just before the merger of CR and the Blaze ORG, so we weren't just a conservative media outlet. We were almost a little bit like an NGO, like a conservative organization. And it wasn't legally designated as such, but that's what we were doing.So we had a scorecard as if you're almost like a 501C3 or C4 PRODUCT, not just a media outlet. You're actually working on activism. But once it became a media company, it was, it just, it was a big expense. I don't know what goes into the computer system behind that to constantly keep that fresh and update that, but it's a cost. And so that's why they just, you know, you stopped it.And that's why we were using the Heritage Action ORG scorecard. So I was said, and I still am, but the more I think about it, what happened was for everyone that were able to maybe expose some of the worst elements of the Republican Party ORG that are openly against us, it actually started to become a shield for a lot of bad people that would get high scores. In other words, scorecards are an outdated model, given the dynamic we're up against, with such subterfuge and perfidy at the hands of Republicans NORP, that they're willing to manipulate, have show votes,and then strategically ensure, like, for example, they're not going to give you a vote on the floor to get rid of liability for vaccines. I would love to see what that vote would look like. You're not going to see it. So they strategically have this stuff. So it's very hard to have it. A scorecard would be good if you had the core of the party was good. Leadership was good. But you had some wayward, you know,flasped guys and you want to differentiate them. Oh, well, you know, we put out bills to, you know, get rid of birthright citizenship and, you know, vaccine liability. And, you know, weasked guys and you want to differentiate them. Oh, well, you know, we put out bills to, you know, get rid of birthright citizenship and, you know, vaccine liability and, you know, we're going to only have government shutdown bills. And then they vote against it. You can have a scorecard.And it would be useful. But if leadership is in on it, it just made it very hard to do this. Now, you still have it good in some of the states. I know Idaho GPE has come up with one where you have a really good freedom caucus that's finding ways to force procedural votes on certain things. So they're able to take the ball away from leadership and force votes they don't wantvoted upon. So they actually have a good scorecard that is very telling and very accurate. But today, it's just, it's so easy. They'll get a free pass because if you're, basically what they do is this. 90% of the bills are show votes. They might be decent bills, but they know it's not going to go anywhere as a standalone proposition. So it's a free vote that, you know, anyone except for the really bad guyswill vote no enough. And often you'll even get unanimous. Like behind HR2, you know, the GOP House border bill, something like that. They just did it, you know, yesterday with a vote to deny illegal aliens from vote or non-citizens from voting. Every single Republican NORP voted for it knowing they're never going to have to stand behind it because the Senate ORG will ignore. Then the few things that matter,the must-pass sort of authorization and debt ceiling and budget bills, they just openly pass it with the Democrats NORP. So once you have the entire Democrat NORP caucus or almost everyone except for, you know, like 20 or 30 who like to do protest votes for various reasons. So then you could afford to lose even up to, you know, 50, 55% of the Republicans NORP and easilypass it, you know, with a super majority. So what happens is, a lot of them are like, okay, I won't take the bullet. It's not like they're like, Johnson PERSON, you jerk, I'm voting, no, you're voting, no, they're putting their, they're in good standing with them. Hence why Johnson gives them leadership money. You think Johnson was like, you voted against my Ukrainian NORP bill and my FISA bill and my budget bill. Like, what the hell? You know, no, it's, it's such a subversive game. And that's, this is the thing. The standard needs to be, are you willing to do the few things it will take to uproot the current uniparty leadership?If the answer is no, you may as well get a zero because we're just going to get the same thing. Okay, so you might strategically get your personal cover vote, but that doesn't do anything for us. That actually helps Johnson PERSON. See, Johnson would rather a, you know, Michelle Fishbach in an R-plus-19 district as opposed to like a Don Bacon, who's from a swing seat in Omaha, who's one of the heads of the Rhino ORG caucus. Because you get a guy like that in the R-plus-19 district, it's going to be a lot easier to get rid of him. But he wants to hold that seat to make sure you don't have an Andy Biggs, a Chip Roy PERSON,a Bob Good, a Thomas Massey PERSON. He wants to make sure you don't have those people. So a Michelle Fishbach PERSON strategically holds the seat for him. We can't continue playing this game. It's not a matter of, oh, I want to just privately, you know, vote no, but I don't want to do anything that's going to upset leadership.I'll even be allies with them. Then you're not going to change anything. We need to go to war with them. Treat them the way they treat us. They undermine our guys when they win, by the way, even in a general election. Same thing.But certainly, at least in the primaries, my gosh. This guy's no experience politically. Came out of nowhere. Steve Boyd PERSON. He listens to my show. He listens to Steve PERSON. He's steeped in our way of thinking.He understands that Chip Roy PERSON is more of the model than, you know, these fake MAGA people. He understands how you need to fight overturn tables. But again, towards an end, not just kind of just the reactionary nonsense, which often lands in the same place. It's a very tight needle to thread, by the way. Because I'm just going to tell you, like a a lot of these candidates that do file to run, that are kind of nobodies against leadership. And again, because we don't have conventions being the final say, so we don't get good candidate recruitment.A lot of them are kind of flaky and nutty. I'm just going to tell you, like, I've seen a couple of these guys that are, um, challengers, and they're literally pro-Palestinian. It's not just that they oppose foreign aid and, you know, the establishment defense industry way of prosecuting foreign policy. They're literally like one of these guys I saw.I was like, oh, great. You know, there's at least someone filed to run against. I forget which rhino. And I looked up. And the guy's social media is all about Gaza GPE and how amazing Gaza is and how we need to fight for Gaza. It's just, you sometimes get weirdness. So I'm just trying to tell you, it's not easy to thread that needle and get sane, put togetherpeople, but, you know, because then sometimes you have the other end, they're sane and put together, but they're just not willing to fight. They just want to kind of privately have their hands clean, not voting for bad bills, but they don't, you know, have a heart for an intra-party fight. That's a very narrow lane, unfortunately, and I think my audience and Steve PERSON's audience, we cover that space. There's not much more beyond that. And when you have one of us running, we need to support them as much of an uphill battle as it is.In general, in most other places, we need to be more focused on the state legislatures where I think it could go to some sort of end, some sort of accomplishment. But again, a lot to think about today's show. A show like today is a show that nobody else will do. So thoroughly critique the establishment, which does include Trump PERSON, but in a constructive way that I'm going to side by side give you the solution, elevate people that are trying to run.Imagine if every other leader with, you know, 10 times the following, 100 times the following that I have, imagine if Tucker PERSON would do shows like this. I just want you to know it doesn't have to be this way. And like Jeremiah PERSON, I'm going to lay down the marker. I might know Jerusalem GPE will be sacked and destroyed and you'll be exiled.I might know the end. I know that you're not going to listen to me. I know you're going to continue ignoring the primaries. You're going to continue moving leftward with Trump PERSON, not holding him accountable, not pressuring him to the right, not getting involved in this. But just know it doesn't have to be this way.Oh, the fix is in. Well, only because you're joining with it. It doesn't have to be this way. Again, Steve Boyd PERSON in. Well, only because you're joining with it. Doesn't have to be this way. Again, Steve Boyd PERSON is a no-name guy. I don't want to insult him. I mean, he's amazing. I'm just saying if you had conventions, you would get, you know, people with more backing that would run, had a little bit more name ID money. But they're not going to do it because they might do a little better,but they'll ultimately lose in a popular primary, especially with Trump PERSON's endorsement. And again, Michelle Fishbach PERSON is a random person. She's relatively new. I doubt Trump PERSON even knows her, because she didn't even start until the end of Trump PERSON's tenure.But Johnson PERSON calls it in. Every single person with a budding challenge it gets called in. How is that not a defeat mechanism? How is that not the greatest controlled opposition of all time?And like Steve PERSON said, what was the first thing she did at the convention played Trump PERSON's endorsement? It was all designed for that. So I find it amazing that even with her control of the apparatus there, still 43, 45% of the delegates voted. No, certainly those with a more robust paper trail of bad votes that weren't as careful and aren't as new.bust paper trail of bed votes that weren't as careful and aren't as new. I mean, I'll be honest with you. Most cases, you go to convention and the convention is determining. Even with Trump PERSON's support of the rhino, I think we could win. So conventions is where it's at. It's not perfect.But this is 100% imperfect. We lose 100% of the time. So look, I'll take a 50%, 60% winning ratio. You know, you get that ratio. We'll change the party overnight. Why I'm the only person who homes in on these sorts of issues and strategies and primaries. Only Allah knows. I don't get it. But I actually fight like I mean it. I actually say what I mean and mean what I say.And I actually believe we're in dire straits. I believe we have no representation. I believe it's a uniparty. So I actually understand we need to do something different and something more. Comfort and complacency. That's what it's all about.We need to fight through it. Daniel Harowitz PERSON at startmail.com is the email, boyd for house.com to support our candidate. Until tomorrow, God bless you all. Micah 6.8. And thank you for listening.