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53:06 minutes

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Liverpool Echo

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Hello everybody.

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Welcome to the latest blood red podcast from the Liverpool Echo ORG.

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I'm Joe Rimmer PERSON.

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Jo Rimmer. joined today by Paul Gost PERSON.

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How are we, Paul PERSON?

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Yeah, very tired. It was a late one last night in Birmingham GPE, wasn't it? We got back around 2 o'clock in the morning, didn't we do with? But, yeah, soldier on.

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Yeah, but a nice knitwear today as well. Thank you. Yeah. Ian Doyle PERSON, how are you? I'm okay. I got back at quarter past one.

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Yeah, so did you drop you off first? Did he on the way? No, I dropped him off and then he took over the drive. Drop himself off and that, jumped in the drive. He was raining. We got wet.

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Fair enough, fair enough. Well, we'll come to that shortly. First, a big thank you to our sponsors, NordVPN ORG, for looking after us in the second half of this season to get the best discount off your NordVPN ORG plan. Go to NordvPN.com forward slash blood red,all one word. And our link will give you four months extra free on a two-year plan. There's no risk with Nord's 30-day money-back guarantee. And I link will give you four months extra free on a two-year plan. There's no risk with Nord's 30-day money-back guarantee. And I'll put the link in the podcast description box. Some reminders before we get going,we are live on YouTube. So if you're watching live and you want to ask a question, make a comment, compliment Paul on his nice jumper. Then drop it in the comments box and we'll get to it. Especially if you docompliment Paul PERSON. I'll pass that straight on. Give us a thumbs up if you're watching live. They might compliment you, Joe PERSON. You don't really get many compliments, do you? Well, you get, to be honest, the most talked about person in our comment section every week is you.Yeah. Our ray of sunshine. Exactly. Yeah, so they're polarizing in the old. The polarizing in the help. You need people like me.Otherwise, you know, you'll all be saying the same thing.

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I don't think polarising is the word that I usually see.

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Yeah, begins with the P. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I thought it ended in a K. Oh, well, that as well, yeah. Yeah.Yeah, so questions, comments, keep them coming in. Give us a thumbs up. If you're listening on Apple Podcasts or on Spotify ORG. Hit some stars for us. Fours and five is accepted below that, then just keep quiet. Yeah, right, well...

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Can we get on with it?

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Yeah, let's get on with it. A bit of a crazy game yesterday, has been the way really all season, hasn't it? Liverpool 3, Aston Villa 3. Gorsi, how did you see it, hasn't it? Liverpool 3, Aston Villa 3. Gorsi PERSON, how did you see it?

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Yeah, I thought Liverpool ORG played well for large parts, considering that this was a little team who've been generally excellent at home this season, obviously beating Arsenal and Man City ORG there, and don't, or didn't tend to lose too many, did he, until maybe a little bit more recently. But, yeah, but I guess Liverpool ORG were undone by tired legs. tend to lose too many did they until maybe a little bit more recently but yeah butI guess Liverpool ORG were undone by tired legs and an inability to close out games and a lack of a lack ofyou know they're not for any streetwise are there at times this Liverpool ORG where they can close games out or should close games out and they don't to you know we were talking a couple of hours ago with me either the Liverpool ORG tend to be going health of leather for the fourth more often than not when the deep half should behitting the corners or slowing it down keeping the chores but five-yard passers either there instead they tend to go for the juggler and they got caught out well they got caught out against Tottenham ORG didn't he in the final 20 minutes and it's just fortunate that they had a four-gold lead and yesterday it was only a two-gold leadand ultimately they've been undone a bit unfortunate in John Durant's second goal but the first one is just a poor mistake from an exhausted McAllister who looked like he should have been one of the four who were brought offI don't like this idea of bringing on four players at once either you're swapping nearly half of the off-field players at oncealways disrupts momentum

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especially TXMid Field at once Yeah

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yeah O's disrupts momentum and rhythm and all that type of stuff and I think Endo PERSON coming off againhas had a big impact on the protection to the back four but yeah a bit of a nothing game for Liverpool in terms of, you know, they're already secured of third but I had played in Greece GPE on 30 nights so I was expecting them to tie a little bit morebut obviously got the wind and the sails for the final 10, 15 minutes I know than that it was a pretty fun end of season fair, wasn't it? But disappointed not to come out with 3.203 went up with five minutes to go.

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Dolly PERSON, does this club team remind you of perhaps 2018, was it? When he sort of thought it was building his first team and it was chaos, you know, they could dismantle teams, butquite often they would let lead slip or they would fall behind several goals. You know, it was fun. They could dismantle teams but quite often they would let lead slip or they would fall behind several goals. It was fun to watch but they had to evolve to become the team that won all the trophies that they did. Do you feel like, I know he's leavingbut do you feel like he's gone back to the start of that process? We're seeing that team emerge again. Well, yeah, I mean, to a point,

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I mean, don't forget that they haven't got a defensive midfielder, which have written about three or four times in the past month now. And you mentioned Endo PERSON, but Endo was only ever going to be, I'll stopgap as such, but somebody, they just had to get somebody in because they couldn't get the player they wanted,which was Casado or Lavia PERSON or someone else. Because of the future, but I know what it's supposed to, yeah. So, you know, that's just what happened. So, yeah, I think Klopp PERSON knew at the start of the season where the problem was. He was able to address it to a point.I don't think he was expected end up to take that long to get up to speed. I don't think he was expecting McCallis to play that often as the number six, but he played half the season, didn't he there? And Liverpool ends have ended up finishing third, won a league cup, cut to two quarterfinals. I don't think there's anything to be too finishing third won a league cup got to two quarterfinals I don't think there's anything to be too worried about as long as the new managercomes in and he sees straight away or gets told by whoever and if he hasbeen watching Liverpool ORG games he suggests that he has then he would have surelysee him that hang on they've taken end of here and things havenot so much fallen apart because Liverpool could have gone was it forwardor would it would have been four one when Southfly ORG had that chance? Yeah, I think it would have been 4-1.

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Hell, it would have made it 4-1, wouldn't it? Yeah, and Sub-Ossly ORG had that chance as well. Yeah, so, I mean, they had enough chance. I mean, to be honest, I wasn't really fussed about the 4-subs either. I mean, it's a game that meant nothing to Liverpool ORG. If you aren't going to go, well, let's try and score some more goals nowand see what we can do, and if you can't do it in a game where you're three-one-up away from home in a game, that doesn't matter to you when are ever going see what we can do. And if you can't do it in a game where you're three one up away from home in a game that doesn't matter to you when are you ever going to be able to do it. So I wasn't particularly that fussed. Slightly annoying that Villa ORG drew,sorry, Villa ORG got bad to draw, but Villa Beep City ORG and, as I mentioned before, Vili Bitt Arsenal ORG, and Liverpool ORG managed to not lose to Astinville at all this season. I take that.I just think, I see what you're saying about, you know, it's at the end of the season, you want to score more goals, but ultimately winning games helps the team's confidence.It helps a team progress, helps a team grow. And they didn't look happy players to me when they came off last night. Well, where would they be? They could have won the game.

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They should have won the game. And this is the problem, isn't it? You can't,

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whether Clop's gone, well, I don't really care. I don't necessarily think that's great because they've come off there, having thrown away a lead, it won't help them going into next season. These will be psychological hurdles.

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They're going to have to get over. But we had this conversation earlier before when we were Saturday in the office and I said, a half past six or whatever time they kick off. Is it our four on Sunday? Oh, four? Yeah.Is it four, right? I think they're all four, are they? Four, right. So, six o'clock on Sunday, I'm guarantee you now that these players will not think of any of the last couple of games.They won't be thinking of Tottenham ORG. They won't be thinking of any of those kind of games because it just draws a line under it. It's gone. It's gone. And it's gone because the new manager's coming in as well.They won't look at it. I don't think they're looking at it. Liverpool could, okay, right, Liverpool could beat Wolves 10-0, and I don't think anyone's going to go into the next season and go, oh, we won 10-0 in my last game.

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No, not necessarily, but habit, habit.

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It doesn't, sloppy habits will stick around. I think there's a lack of control, which has undercut Liverpool for about five, six weeks, really. I mean, the game itself sort of summed up the season, didn't it? You know, with a good start, you know, some hurdles to overcome with Deville Equalizer PERSON, and then looked like they were going really strongwhen they got two one up, three one up, and then a bit of a collapse at the final hurdle. So that was Liverpool season, you know, in 90 minutes.

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Plot PERSON brought that up before you even got asked about it after the game. We said, this didn't swap our season. It's like you knew that people were going to be saying there.

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But to me, they take too many risks, and I think they need, they've got experienced players. There are a lot of experienced players, and I don't really understand why there isn't a bit more game management. If you look at the second goal, the Ville ORG's score. Yeah, okay, McAllister PERSON makes the mistake. But Allison PERSON fizzes it into him that quickly, and he's actually got, if you look at him in that position, he's getting closed down by aboutfour Ashton for the players almost as soon as he gets it. So even if he had controlled that all right, he'd have had to try and find a pass, which would have been quite difficult, and he probably would have had to go sideways or backwards, which put Liverpool ORG under more pressure. I don't understand why they don't slow the whole process down. Alison can take his time with goal kicks. They can punt it a bit longer, and I know they don't like.Teams don't generally like going long now from goal kicks, because they do lose it more often, not when they go long. But you lose it in an area of the pitch, which is better to lose it on your own 18-yard box. And I don't understand why there isn't more game management. You know, Van Dykes PERSON in there. He's a really experienced defender.Why is he looking around at his other players? Trent PERSON's experience. Gomez PERSON is experienced. Allison PERSON is very experienced. And McAllister is a World Cup EVENT winner.Why aren't they slowing things down? Instead, I do find it frustrating that three-one up, I obviously want them to score goals. It's fun to watch. But I also want them. More importantly, I want them to win games. It's fun to watch, but I also want them.More importantly, I want them to win games. And last night, they were 3-1-up. They'd scored good goals. It had been a good display. But just settle things down, win the game.

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Yeah, it should have been one. You don't want a narrative about your team to be, they can't manage games, they can see games, you can get back into it. You don't want to go into next season and teams go, well, even if we're 3-1 down against Liverpool ORG, we can still getback into this because they're sloppy. And I think, for Arns PERSON slot, the first thing he needs to do is go, you know, they've got, we talk a lot about the attacking talent. There's a lot of debate about Nunes, Sala PERSON. They don't have problems scoring goals.The problems this season has been defensive. Well, it's one clean

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sheet since boxing day, isn't it? We were told that on this night, and that was Forest away. I mean, Liverpool's attack defensive. Well, it's one clean sheet since Boxing Day, isn't it? We've told that on the way on this night and that was Forest Away ORG. I mean, Liverpool ORG's attack come under fire for the April when they had about 50 shots against United ORG andthey weren't scoring many at all and that was undercutting them but I think the longer term trend has been the defence, hasn't it? Or the concession of goals and that, like you say, though, it hasn't it? Or the concession of goals? And that, like you say,though, that hasn't been helped by the lack of a top-class defensive midfield there. You know, Endos PERSON had a really good season. But when he hasn't been there, it's been a bit obvious that Liverpool ORG have lacked of protection.And the lack of, you know, Nouse ORG have just showing things up and keeping it tight and ticking over. And like you say, just running down the clock. Like, that is surprising really, given the players they've got.

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It might just be a natural part of the evolution of the side. We saw that with Liverpool ORG when they won the league.

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That's just under instructions. They just carry on going health of leather. Maybe they are. But when they won the league, they became... They weren't as good to watch the season they won leather. Maybe they are, but when they won the league, they became, they weren't as good to watchthe season they won the league as they were, the season when they finished, was it fourth, when Salas scored 44 goals that year when they got to Kiev GPE.But they had flaws, but they evolved into a side.

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You knew once they went one and they looked though, that was probably here. Yeah, yeah, and you watch Arsenal ORG now, and I think Arsenal ORG must impress me about Arsenal ORG this season is they've evolved from last seasonwhere they got themselves into the picture and this season they seemed so much more sure of themselves and they managed games. I think Neville said it last night.

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Well, that winning against United on Sunday, you went one-nil up and then United ORG didn't really have a chance. I mean, I know it's United ORG, they're struggling that in the doldrums and they've got massive injury problems and all of that stuff, but to go to Old Trafford and put in a calm, measured performanceand come away with a win like that. You know, what Liverpool ORG would have given to have done that six weeks ago instead of, you know,

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20, 35 shots and it all just unraveling

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in a stall of chaos.

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Well, as I say, it might be part of the process and this attitude has got them back from fifth into third this season through maybe just finding their identity a little bit more and pressing a bit higher and taking more chancesbut I would have thought throughout the course this season you would see and certainly in games like last night where the game, they'd won the game if they just settled down they'd won the game and they brought four substitutes on

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and all four of them were attacking substitutes and that I thought that was poor game management. It was two-thirds in the field, end up in particular. But it was a game that for Liverpool ORG, they just wanted to see how many they could score in the end.But I wasn't the type of point.

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No, no, no. If that game meant something and Liverpool ORG were going to try and needed to win it, they wouldn't have brought those sports teams up.

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No, I accept that.

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They wouldn't have done it.

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But I think, especially in the last

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couple of months the couple of months of the couple of months of all of had, every game means something. They do need to getthrough this season and they don't want to embarrass themselves and they don't want But I think they have they're getting a reputationas a side that you can get back into games against. But the defence is poor.

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Do you think Van Dyke

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enjoys that and goes, oh well, it doesn't matter, lads, we want to score a few more goals?

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No, because the professionals.

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Exactly. But we have the same token, the professionals, and who have to have this kind of target what they're going for. And the fact is that for Liverpool ORG, the last two games have had nothing to play for, they've beaten Tottenham and scored three goals,Asson Villa and Druther ORG, which we said before, Arsenal had six. So they're actually two good results.

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Yeah, I'm not arguing the grand scheme of things they're bad results. What I'm saying is that I think

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what I would say to that is what did you expect to change in the last two weeks that hasn't been going on all season?

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Well, I expect, I agree, but I expect that this team to grow throughout the season and early in the season some of these teething problems I can understand but you go three one up it's one thingthey've been chasing a lot of games so sometimes they're chasing games I can understand but last night they were three one off and why they haven't learned by now how to manage a gamewhy they're still fizzing things quickly why they're still going hell to hell to lever to try and score a fourth goal I don't understand and I don't understand why they're not under instruction to settle down.Surely that would be the first thing Van Dyke PERSON would be saying to his defender, so settle down. Let's just see this game out and win the game.Like, I know you say it doesn't matter, but I think winning games does matter. And if you end the season with five wins, like last season, they end the season on a high, it rolls into this season.I do think, I do think,

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they did finish last season my drawing four all at San Anton. They did, but they finished last season on a high it rolls into this season I do think I do think they did finish last season my drawing four all at San Anton

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they did they did but they finished last season on the whole on a high

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and drawing with them themselves they didn't win the last two games

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I think what we've seen is a squad

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with quality but with imperfections and Liverpool ORG have been the third best in the league this season and probably are well they certainly get what they deserve for their efforts overalland ultimately it has been progress but yeah there are little things that can be ironed out and it's frustrating when you know what they are

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yeah you know

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there was the thing about starting games poorly I have no idea how you fix that

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is it a team talk is it the pre-match huddle is it I don't know why you fixed that but you can see that when you two goals up with five minutes to go, what you need to do to kind of get over the line. And like you said, it's not fizzing into your number six

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with four men, be pressing them and, you know, whatever else. It's just little things that can be tweaked. And maybe that's ultimately the fact that we can see it as footballing layman.

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It bodes well because it tells you that a new background team will be able to identify issues that can be sorted.

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What I would say about the poor stars, they didn't start poorly last night. No, they didn't start poorly against Tottenham ORG. Didn't start pulling. I mean, they had to hold the ball.

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I guess everyone. Yeah, but they didn't start poorly. So it's terribly against Evan PERSON. Well, do you say, I mean they had the old ball against Evan yeah but they didn't start poorly

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so it's terribly against Evan

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well do you say that

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but they had all the ball they had all the ball they're always

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not a possession aren't you

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and they gave

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close to full them

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they started well against that

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they didn't start well against Evan they might have had a bit of the ball but every time they gave it away Everton

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didn't start well the middle was awful and the end was he

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yeah yeah I mean it's one of them isn't it like I'm not it's notwe've had this debate on there before and I think that the season as a whole when you step back it absolutely has been progress there's lots of good pointsI think it's a shame that some of the negative sides of the season the questions around Nunez the questions around Sala questions around the defenceare going to sort of bleed into to next summer, sorry, to the summer. But ultimately it has been a season of progress. I just think there are some quite obvious issues there. And I think game management is one of them that I think I'm not quite sure whether they're under instructionor whether it's just not as simple as slow it down. Perhaps there's a certain way of playing that they can play and they can't just slow things down like that. But I found it quite odd last night and it's not the first time it's happened, certainly this season.

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Do you don't win games straightforward? No. It's either a bit of a staring fight back, you know, a great second d'arth or that tends to be the general way to win things, isn't it? There's not been, you probably can't someone on the amount of games where you think, oh, Liverpool have put a 90-minute performance there really well.The other scene didn't really get a sniff, and, you know, Liverpool ORG, look I have really top side.

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Who could, sorry, didn't sorry, who could they have brought on

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the last night to slow things down?

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It's not how they can bring on.

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It's about not making four subs at once.

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Okay, well, I'm asking if you were in charge of that team last night, what would you have done in terms of change of the first now and the second?

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This is just me now, just asking you a question. Well, I'm not Yeager Klopp PERSON, so I wouldn't be in charge that team.

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Because he's a very, very good football manager. But I think, I don't like four substitutes of once. Actually, one of the most annoyed times I've ever been with Klopp was last year at Man City ORG when he declared and said, oh, we'll get and beat here and brought on three people at once.And I just thought, I don't like to see a Liverpool ORG team give up. And I thought that was giving up. And I thought last night he was like, yeah, we're winning this, we'll bring on four. It always disrupts aside. And I think with Klopp, he likes to think, well, I need to was giving up. And I thought last night he was like, yeah, we're winning this, we'll bring on four. It always disrupts the side. And I think with Cloppy PERSON likes to think,well, I need to protect my players. And I get that. But you can still make four substitutions staggered, can't you? So first thing, I wouldn't have brought on four subs at once. And I think more so changing the attackers is one thing,

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but changing your midfield, dropping McAllister PERSON back when he was arguably tired. You know, I think you could have brought Curtis Jones changing your midfield, dropping McAllister back, where he was arguably tired. You know, I think you could have brought Curtis Jones PERSON on into midfield. You could have brought Sir Bosley PERSON on. You could have made the swaps there,but I wouldn't have brought them all off at once. I think changing two-thirds of your midfield at once and then making one of the moved position, just they completely lost their structure and invited Villa ORG back into the game.

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You can see it was four now and then they'll just go off the pitch later on in the last two games and like you say, Duddy PERSON, I'll go back to that point again about the need for a top-class defensive midfielder is still there, isn't it? The question is who is out there now?There's always somebody.

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Yeah, yeah. I mean, there wasn't really

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last one was there apart from.

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Obviously, they wanted Lavier PERSON and hasn't worked out for him even slightly at Chelsea ORG. And can I say those fairs slightly better, particularly in recent weeks, but

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haven't Chelsea only lost on like one or two

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Premier League games since Christmas or something?

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Yeah, basically, they're going to be really good. I think he might get the last laugh. Yeah, but I mean, I still think that is an area for Liverpool to look at this summer.

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The Blood Red podcast from the Liverpool Echo ORG. The Blood Red podcast from the Liverpool Echo ORG.

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I think the next stage of their evolution as a team, if they do evolve, you know, we don't really know what's going to happen when slot comes in is just to slow things down a bit to become a more savvy team, yeah, yeah,

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I think so. Funny enough, again, I said before, all the debate seems to be around the forward line and whether Nunez PERSON is this or that, but Liverpool ORG is threatening as any team in the league.

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They're only one goal short of what they're going to win the league. Yeah. So I don't necessarily think they have problems with goals at all. The problems are defensively and they need to sort that out fully enough, thought quantumwas quite good at times. Yeah, he could have done better for the first goal.

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He's done really well after that after the first goal. He made so many blocks and interceptions and won his headers and obviously takes his call really well, doesn't he want to edit that was. I think he's a real prospectfor the future. I think Liverpool I've got one there. Looking forward to see how he develops and at the moment he's first choice, isn't he, alongside Van Dyke PERSON? I know you think Canarday PERSON hasreally fallen off a cliff in the recent months and Kwanza PERSON has taken full advantage.

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Yeah, Joe, do you think as though the centre-back's performance gave Liverpool a Quanta of Salas PERSON? Right, that's it.

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That's the end of the pod.

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We won't be back on Friday.

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We'll never have to come back here.

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You can't come back from that.

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You can't come back.

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Yeah, it is.

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It's the worst pun on this pod ever.

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It's also the worst James Bond PERSON film.

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Saying that, actually, that is a lie.

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I actually thought it was all right.

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What's the worst James Bond PERSON film then? The worst James Bond PERSON film.

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The thing is, we're talking like, some of them a very long time ago, aren't they?

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I mean, some of them were too much just for me, you know. Really?

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Yeah. Some of the 70s ones or early 80s. Who's your favourite Bond PERSON? What's a good? To be fair, I do like Daniel Craig PERSON. Connery PERSON. Daniel Craig. I really like Daniel Craig be fair, I do like Daniel Craig. Connery.Daniel Craig PERSON, I really like Daniel Craig.

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Pierce Brosson PERSON was quite good. Connery, I like Roger PERSON Morgan a lot of time for Roger.

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He very much changed the character.

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Yeah, it's a different type of Bond PERSON.

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Anyone pick and leisure and be, not a chance.

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It's a good film, though.

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It's a really good film. Yeah. It's a really good film, that as well. That's one with his wife dies. Yeah, on a majesty's secret service. Some of the music is the best.

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I'll bring it back to the game. Do you think Tom Hanks would have made a good James Bond PERSON? No?

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No, no.

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He's American NORP from start.

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Maybe he could have...

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Oh, yeah, he could have...

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Or a good...

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I can't think of his name now.

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Could have played Felix PERSON.

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Felix PERSON later.

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Yeah, that would have been.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, but... Not Scaramanga PERSON now.

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Not Scaramanga PERSON.

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Timothy Dolph PERSON?

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Timothy Dolton. He's another good one here. Two very,anga, no. Not scaramanga. Timothy Dalton PERSON. Timothy Dalton is another good one.

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Two very, like, sort of hardcore Bond PERSON films they were, weren't they?

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Very, very gory.

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Well, the fellow's head explodes at one point. Livingdale's ORG is a good cheer in as well. Yeah, 11. I've, one last thought about Bond PERSON. I think...

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Exactly, yeah.

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I think we just do it. I think Casino Royale WORK_OF_ART is overrated. There you go.

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Really? Craig one, yeah. Oh, I'm not having that. Not of it.

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I don't think it's enough of a Bond PERSON film for me. I know you're massive into your films, though.

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It's a bit more like going back to the Rootsie Stowe FAC, isn't there?

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Yeah, isn't that right?

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No, I think...

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I think...

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But this isn't the James One podcast, but I hope everyone enjoyed Donald PERSON.

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Do you remember Daniel Craigville PERSON?

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Like any Daniel Craigfield PERSON?

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Big Grace.

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Because he Liverpool ORG fan, yes,

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so therefore this is relevant.

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Yeah, I can't, I can't take off the top.

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Do you reckon he should have made four subs last night?

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Yeah, I don't like those,

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the ones where he's like a detective,

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the ones came on Netflix ORG.

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Oh, you don't like them?

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A glass onion.

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Oh, you know, that's't like that. Sechman PERSON.

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No, no.

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Well, Sechmong PERSON got interrupted to me

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when Cody Gapho PERSON signed

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and I had to pause it.

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Did you ever go back to it?

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I did, but, you know,

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I was kind of taken out of the moment then.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Let us know what your favourite

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Bond PERSON film is in the comments.

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Tell us the end.

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He should be the next year's part?

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The long, the long...

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I think he's a bit old now, though, and he now next year's part. The long, the long, total of the places

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is a bit old now, though,

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and you know, a bit old.

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Yeah, a few comments,

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anyway.

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First, priority must be

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to sort of our defence.

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You can see,

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you can solve conceding the early goal,

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problem by trying to conserve energies

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and first to take advantage

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of the other team tiring

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in the second bar.

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I think that brings us

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last year's in mind to the team.

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The thing,

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the thing with the defence is

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it's not necessarily a question of personnel.

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It's just they haven't been able to field them all enough in terms of a consistent back five and the man in front of them.

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Back six, yeah? Yeah. That just hasn't happened enough, as it? You know, Robertson, Trent, Van Dyke, Allison PERSON, and then Joe Mattaff Joel Matta PERSON, many would argue

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he's first choice, he's been injured since December. Canardate PERSON was really good at times. It was really poorer at other times as well. And then the issue of his endo really, a league quality now.He's had a really good season and his standing, McAllister, is not really a number six. So the issues have been there,

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but I think this's some of that whole area has to tighten up.

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I certainly think another issue that Onslaught has got to solve. It's just the general fitness of this squad. You know, whether that means signing players where, you know, have gone...

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Just don't play Brentford ORG. That might help. Sorry? Don't play Brentford ORG. Don't play Brentford ORG. Yeah, they must get injured against them.

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Signing more reliable players, perhaps evolving style,

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so that maybe it's a style. But the fact that they have actually been signing reliable players over the past 18 months.

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Yeah, that's true. You're not thinking, you know, Nunez PERSON doesn't miss money. Gakko PERSON. Gapo doesn't, Saboslis PERSON. Diaz PERSON.

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No, Diaz PERSON.

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That was two and a half years ago, to be fair.

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So he's been there for quite a while. Endo PERSON hasn't really missed much. Gravenberch PERSON. He hasn't really missed much thevenberch PERSON doesn't really miss much

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the season you know like the only the family related one was but I only missed onegood no two two games

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to that so I definitely

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think obviously that clearly sees a change because I think again we haven't talked aboutreally much but the injuries this season I think it's been forgotten because it wasback at the tell of the year but I mean they definitely have had a knock on effect and I think even nowyou look at this team Diego Jotta you know was getting into form and got and again suffered injuries

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and Andy Robbins

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last night still not there Jotta PERSON by the way two weeks prognosis

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yeah I don't think it before

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by the World's game and he probably won't featuring that so season was over after Wolves ORG.

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Far too many players who pick up too many injuries.

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And Diogo Jotta PERSON, I think, is probably one of the worst culprits.

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Jotter's desperate to play in the World Cup EVENT as well.

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Well, not, that's not right.

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But, you know what I mean? He's just one of those people that you just can't, I don't think you can rely on. Jones PERSON is the perfect example as that is,

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and he was absolutely flying before to the sending off at Tottenham ORG. He'd had a good sort of five or six months there as a Liverpool ORG player, you know, in between seasons and a good pre-season, and then he gets the sending off, and then he picks up a couple of little injuries here and there.

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He was good around December, January, and then he got injured against Brentford ORG, didn't he? Then they'd never really come back from that. Brentford ORG, I'm telling you.

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Okay, on slot. I thought he might have been announced a couple of weeks back. Hasn't happened. His assistant this morning in Netherlands GPE released a statement to say his assistant, Sipke PERSON? Sipka PERSON.Hulshoff PERSON. Hulshoff, is how you pronounce his first name? Sorry if I butchered that, but we'll be leaving the Netherlands after the Euros EVENT so we can join Liverpool ORG. Do you think that we will get maybe an announcement next week now?

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Yeah, I don't know.

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It doesn't seem like they need to announce.

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I mean, there's slots.

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Slots being, you know, talking about at length, hasn't he? And you wonder how much Liverpool and I think of one man that he's just kept quiet

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for a few weeks. But the thing is he can't, can he? He's going to get asked about it.

Speaker 121823.46s - 1849.02s

Yeah, no, we're all, you're all fans of the openness of it. But I just wonder whether the people didn't want it to get in the way of all the clop stuff, you know, the clock leaving stuff, which they've got loads in the pipeline. And it's going to be a hell of an occasion on Sunday, isn't it? And then maybe after that, once that's upsides, they'll be in a position to announce it and give it the bells and whistlesand everyone will get their cheer attention I guess

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Yeah maybe that

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Maybe that's it really with this hold-up

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Do you think all along that They never planned to announce Sloth Say a month ago it was always going to be

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An end of the season thing Well it's never going to overshadow Clop leave it and once it isn't done quite early on Such as when the competition package was agreed Which is before the West Ham game And they don't confirm it then It's never going to overshadow, Clop leave it, and once it isn't done quite early on, such as when the competition package was agreed,which is before the West Ham ORG game, and they don't confirm it then. You can see why they haven't done it. They haven't done it because both Liverpool and Fine ORG, or could mathematically still have won their titles until last week or so. So they weren't going to disrupt that.And now what's the point doing it this week? I mean, they'll probably do it at some point next week. They're not going to do it like on Monday when Clops ORG it's true. They'll allow it to settle for a few days. My guess would be next Thursday or Friday, although knowing my guess is they'll probably have announced it.Right. But we're doing this podcast now.

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Five other fans can't attend the game on Sunday. Something like that, is it? If Inaud fans can't attend the game on Sunday. There's something, isn't there something that they have an issue with their fans going to a certain game. I might completely be wrong about that.But I'm sure I read something about their fans.

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Because he did like a bit of a set...

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He sort of said like an emotional goodbye

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a couple of weeks back, didn't it?

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On Sunday was it? No, it wasn't?

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I know the early been on Sunday, didn't he?

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Yeah. So I thought maybe if the fans are there on Sunday It would make sense to announce him So that you could say an emotional goodbye As Klop PERSON says an emotional goodbye That sort of thingBut it seems like that holds up anyway If there was one is resolved by his coach

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A bit of an educator guess more than anything

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But just thinking once Clop is officially out of door And then you've got a little bit of a spare week there that might be the ideal time to drop the news and everyone can go about the business because let's not forgetEdwards and Hughes PERSON and Ward and Mark Virtal PERSON is it they all start their jobs on the 1st of June so you'd imagine there'll be some announcement around there if not before

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the blood red podcast from the livable echo the blood red podcast from the livable echo it's been a

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busy time of liverball there's a lot of coaches leaving ghosty um what do you think's behind this clear how do you think it's just a fresh start for people yeah i think it's just in fresh start for people? Yeah, I think it's just an domino effect sometimes.

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I mean, Slot PERSON will have his own ideas with his own background team, as happens with most managerial appointments. I think the likes of John Actaberg, been there a long time, having the Andreas Kormai PERSON, we know, was certainly a Klop guy, Peter Kravitz, Peter Matos PERSON, Eppelinus PERSON. They're all heavily associated with the clop era, aren't they? And they've got plans of their own,you know, the story today coming out of Pep, Linders ORG, is wanted by Red Bull Salzberg ORG. That could potentially happen for him. Vita Matos PERSON wants to take his steps into management as well. Yeah, so I think it is just a bit of a fresh start. You know, a totally new collection of voices for the players to listen to on the training groundand very much a new area, not sort of caught between areas where you look at, I guess, Manchester United's ORG playing squad would be a good example, where there's players who've been signed by four or five different managers. It's nothing like that in terms of the backroom staff. It will be new manager with his own team. And then above him will be a new sporting director.A new essential head of the club in Michael Edwards, who's the new Mike Gordon PERSON. Julian Ward PERSON coming back. David Woodfair coming back as Hughes PERSON as assistant. Pedro Marquez PERSON is coming in, isn't he, as technical director, him in Ward about. His player development, isn't he, is technical director, him in Warden PERSON.His play development, isn't it, I think.

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So, yeah, a lot of moving parts, but I think ultimately fans will only care if the results are seen on the pitch.

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Four sections of the ground will be closed.

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I think it's blocks, not areas, because of pirate techniques at the Cup final the other week.

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So that's why some fans can't go. Yeah, okay. So I think because a couple of weeks ago when they played at home, he was quite emotional and sort of waving to the fansand that sort of thing. So I knew there was a reason why he did that then and not on some... Is it Sunday they play? Sunday, yes. Sunday, yeah.So, yeah. Finally one more thing. No one's to talk about, which just got me thinking. I saw the Anthony Gordon rumors on Sunday,which, I mean, it seems very unlikely that Andy Gordon PERSON, a bit of a bit, a bit of it, he is a boyhood, Liverpool ORG fan,will come to Liverpool just because the cost involved. But I quite like Andy Gordon PERSON. I think he's had a really good season. He certainly convinced me and I think he's the sort of playerthat if Liverpool ORG boss I think he could come to strength of Liverpool ORG. First of all, what do you think? And second of all, is that the sort of profile player that you expect Liverpool ORG to be in the marketfor this summer?

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Yeah, he certainly improved no end since I used to watch him in Evan PERSON. Kicked on at Newcastle ORG, hasn't he become a real important figure for them since he moved there? The issue is, you know, Newcastle ORG's wealth kind of means that they might not necessarily have to sell, even though there are PSR questions involved, and there are some suggestions that one of their big guns will need to be sacrificed to be able to fund their next stageas a development, and would that be Gordon PERSON? I'm not sure it would. He seems to fit him well there, seems to like her up in the northeast. He has seen bits of his interview with Gary Neville PERSON recently when he was saying, you know, we have to get out of Liverpool ORG because, you know,his friends were trying to get him in the pub or whatever it be, and he just thought he's saying, you know, we had to get out of Liverpool ORG because, you know, his friends were trying to get him in the pub

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or whatever it be. And he just thought he's focusing on his football, get out of the major side bubble and go and improve and become maybe in England international with Newcastle ORG.

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Newcastle ORG famously being a place when no one goes to pub. Yeah, yeah. But he can focus on his football more there, can he. Yeah, I can see why Liverpool ORG might think that he's a player with a high ceiling. You know, he's a young player, a young wide forward. There's a lot about it that makes a little bit of sense. But I'm not sure whether Liverpool ORG have the budget to bring him inbecause Newcastle ORG might not necessarily be under pressure to sell and they're not looking to sell him as one of their kind of key men that they're happy to offload. I think they'll look to keep them and then that will price Liverpool ORG out and there's probably more pressing concerns for Liverpool this summer.

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Do you think, do you expect them to sign a lot of players this summer, or do you think it's going to be just picking the right ones? Because, to be fair, they've changed a lot of the squad recently, and Edwards won't want Liverpool ORG to rip it up and start again. That's the whole point in getting slots, surely.

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Going back to Gordon PERSON, I'd sign him. I think the only way he leaves Newcastle ORG, if he agitates for a move, because they don't need to sell him. Would that mean Diaz PERSON leaves, though? Well, I'm not on about necessarily about this summer as we're going to sayis that I don't think it'll be this summer. I think Liverpool ORG, I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up in Liverpool ORG at some point. Let's put it that way, yeah. I think he's obviously the kind of playerthat they need. I think he's right, yes, come on an awful lot this season. You're going to have to see him

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whenever Newcastle ORG have a very good... Whenever Newcastle ORG are playing well, he's always involved. And when he doesn't have a particularly good game, you notice it. That's always a sound of a good player. Somebody's very effective, certainly going forward.And I, and Newcastle will, yeah, as I said, they don't need to sell him. I don't, not him particularly. You know, as of course, he said they might have to move some players. I think he might beGrumara PERSON's might go, yeah, because I don't think he's... Sort of Colin Wilson PERSON as well, I think, or something. Well, again, a Callan Wilson PERSON's somebody who they can. He's now a squad player, isn't they? I mean, I think he's been decent for them.It's been good for them.

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They might want to keep holding. Massive money for Callum Wilson PERSON, or are they... No, but then it's... If you get rid of two players for not massive money, then you can buy somebody. You can make a positive differencehe's going to play all the time, so that's probably where they're looking at it, without wishing to be Newcastle's Territory Football ORG, who is... Bad Oshworth PERSON? Well, he's not anymore, is it? Well, he's not going to be, is he? He's not

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going to go out in leave, isn't he? He was just going to be... Dougie Freeman they were looking at from Palace ORG. Yeah. Yeah, that's who they're looking out. Yeah. He's... Palis, they've made some good signings over the last few years. Again, thanks that's our Lisa. He's more likely to be somebody Liverpool might try and look at this summer if they're looking out. Yeah. He's, Palace, they've made some good signings over the last few years. Again, thanks to Alisa PERSON. He's more likely to be somebody in Liverpool might try and look at this summer if they want to sign somebody, because who knew that Alisei and Eze, they fit for Crystal Palace ORG.No, look, Crystal Palace ORG are quite good. So, you know, that helps. And they've got a manager there who, you mentioned to me before, the Bay Munich ORG.

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By Munich ORG. To be fair. You know, exactly, I'm a manager. I'm a bit disappointed at Biotemunuk PERSON. I haven't gone after me. To be fair. You know, exactly I'm a manager and a bit disappointed of Bayern Munich I haven't gone after me soany manager anywhere

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you'd put that time

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we still all right up when you

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and going back to your initial question about love sign is in the summer I think there'll be a defensive midfield that'll be a centre backand it'll be a forward and if they have to they might have son and goalkeeper and if they might I think that'll be itsorry say again but if there with three players. Defensive midfielder, forward, wide forward fast.

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Centre back, obviously.

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That's probably the priority. Well on with the defensive midfielder and then might have to sign a goalkeeper. What I find really interesting this summer with Liverpool ORG now is because Klop PERSON's gone and that sort ofarea of knowledge is leaving the club with Petalinders PERSON and whatever else Edwards PERSON is back in, Ward back in Richard Hughes PERSON with his contacts in Spain and Italy GPE and Ward obviously Portugal GPE and Edwardswith the Red Bull Stable Liverpool ORG now have essentially sort of increased a network of knowledge if you like and it means now that you ever they're linked toyou used to be able to know sort of almost immediately then you whether it was a legitimate link or whether it was probably one that wasn't true but now whoever they get linked to you thinkyou second guessing yourself but you think well that could be true of that you know I can't see where that might happen or whatever so I think that's going to be an interesting summer for supporters now because you can look at every link and think it might have lex.

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A lot will depend on how long it takes slot to realise what we already know about the players that he's inheriting.

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Do you think, I'd take your point, but do you think Liverpool ORG might progress it

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a bit quicker because it will come from Edwards PERSON and Hughes

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and.

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Well, possibly. The slot won't necessarily have as much authority over the signing point. Well, don't forget them two are coming in

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from the cold as it were a little bit.

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Edward has been out of it for two years now. And obviously Richard Hughes PERSON hasn't been inside Liverpool ORG at all, but we can all see the players. They'll be watch the games. They'll get got feedback from the people who are still in the club. So there'll be that. And the They'll get got feedback from the people who are still in reigned at the club.So they'll be that. And the players themselves, I'm pretty sure that Slot PERSON will ever work with some of the senior players and they'll go like, okay, what do we think of this, this, that and the other? Why wouldn't he? It's how quickly you can assimilate, good word, all of that knowledgeand then make decisions on what he would prefer to be a squad. The Blood Red podcast from the Liverpool Echo ORG.

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Yeah, I think it's centre back, agree on that, centre back to replace Matthew PERSON. Yeah. Defensive with the field there.

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Yeah, to replace Tiago PERSON.

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Like five minutes all season. Probably Liverpool ORG's, you know, best, would say best in a bit of commerce. He doesn't really play anymore, but, you know, on paper. Like five minutes all season. Probably Liverpool's, you know, best in the Verter Combs ORG, he doesn't really play anymore,

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but, you know, on paper. It's a good point,

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because he could have played defensive woodfield as well completely. Forget about that. And beset it says...

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He would have been ideal for closing it out, you know, keeping his shorts, keeping all of the ball, tight areas and whatever.

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Yeah, like his cameo against the Arsenal ORG.

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Oh, unbelievable, yeah.

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It's terrible, but, but yeah,

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I'll tell your point.

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I mean, like, is you forget that he would have been an option for Liverpool this season,

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and he hasn't been the entire season.

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And again, I think, I still think,

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nationally, at least I don't think enough has been made of how much Liverpool ORG have overcome this year in terms of their injuries. But, yeah, I mean, I think certainly haven't failed that, and I think are wired forward. I wonder whether one of those forwards would leave. Do you think there might be a bit more of a ruthlessnessabout Liverpool ORG's transfer business this year you know Michael Edwards of course you know will have a certain profile of playerthat you'll want Liverpool ORG to sign do you think they might sort of maybe I mean

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they lost Fabino PERSON and Henderson

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sort of against their own will last year didn't he um yeah I mean Lewis Diaz for me is still the big question mark Fabino and Henderson against their own will last year, didn't he?

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Yeah, I mean, Lewis Diaz for me is still the big question mark. I just wonder, particularly now we know that Killeen Bappe PERSON is leaving, not that we didn't already, nobody's officially confirmed it. They're going to be in the hunt for a left-sided forward. And we've been linked to Diazquite regularly, though, I quite regularly though the last few months so that for me is one to watch certainly and I think Liverpool ORG could be able to get a fee that would enable them to reinvest significantly

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that's the key isn't it I think personally I wouldn't really want to sell Diaz I think he's readily available which a lot of Liverpool ORG's other forwards aren't and I think he plays every game he's full of energy I think he's quite available, which a lot of Liverpool ORG's other forwards aren't. And I think he plays every game. He's full of energy.I think he's quite good tactically. But ultimately, I think if PSG ORG come along and off of you, what, if you'll get something close to sort of 80 million for it, which I don't think is the money PSG ORG have got,

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I don't think is impossible.

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Then, yeah, then that sort of gives you a decision to make. Because I think we did a debate piece of, I don't think is impossible then yeah

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that sort of

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gives you a decision to make because I think we did a debate piece of the day and I said I'd sell Jother just because of the injury problemsand I like Jother is a good player but I think it's not worth having a good player if he can't play enough for you but I just don't thinkthey get that sort of money for him Sal PERSON I understand why they'd want to keep him and Nunez I just don't think they get anywhere near the money back.They're paid. So Dias PERSON feels like probably your best option doesn't he to sell. I think we'll round it up there. We'll be back on Friday to prove...

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Hang on, hang on, hang on, I go on.

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What day is it? It's Tuesday today, so you want to do your...

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Yeah, exactly, yeah. First of the week. Yeah, first of the week. I nominate myself again. Can we have a serious nomination?

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Coming back to Paul PERSON, because I'll have a thing. I know exactly. I know exactly I'm picking. Go on. Harvey Elliott PERSON. Did he win it last week?

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I don't know. Did he? Sorry.

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Okay, maybe not.

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I don't know. I don't want to give it to him. I've decided that I want to give it to Gerald Quanter PERSON.

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Gerald Quonser's first goal.

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Yeah, I wouldn't argue with that, to be fair, yeah?

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He's made himself a first teamer, yeah?

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Yeah, I think that's a good shout.

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I think, yeah, he's got himself.

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He kind of feels officially now like he's Liverpool's first choice along, so I'm finding that. You don't bat an island when he plays. Do you think that now?

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Because I know me and you had a disagree with on this a couple of of months ago where I thought that Quonsor PERSON was, yeah, you said Karnati was definitely going to be first choice and I said no, I think Quanta ORG is now.

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I don't remember I've not disagreed with you. I've always been quite high on Quanta ORG. No, I never said that you weren't speaking highly of Quanta ORG. It's just that he was, I, I,

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disagree on so much, I can't keep up. Exactly, yeah. It's Joe PERSON. He's he just disagreed with everybody

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these days. No, the devil's advocate.

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Very good.

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Yeah, so I think the conversation was basically, I thought Quants was ahead of Canality ORG or merit in terms of the pecking audit. And you said it was too early to say that. That's what it was.

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I don't remember this conversation, but maybe we did. But, yeah, I mean, I certainly think.

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I don't know.

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I remember you saying.

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It's not.

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Not my.

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It's not. You might have early onset, so just be careful. Maybe, maybe. But, yeah, I think he has forced his way. Managers team selection is evidence of that, isn't it?

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And he scored a good goal last night. Crazy, for the minute.

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I think he's got, we started to see,

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I think early in the season when we saw him a little bit less,

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we didn't see as many mistakes.

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I'm starting to see little moments where, you know, last night allowing, I can't remember where it was.

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Ollie Watkins PERSON. The Wockens ORG. Yeah, that can happen, though.

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Walkins is a really good Premier League ORG cycle, isn't he?

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But I think some of his composure.

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Well, then that's a good cross.

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Yeah, you could.

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Yeah, of course, yeah.

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I think some of his composure in moments as well is just brilliant.

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I still think he passes the ball really well.

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Obviously, he's very commanding in the air all round. He's probably the success story of the season for the people, isn't he? I mean, Connor Bradley PERSON has done really well. But in terms of, I got, I was somewhere yesterday or last week, talking about young players who've done really well, and Kwanza PERSON didn't get a mention,and I was thinking, well, surely Kwanza PERSON did the biggest one as well. And when I mentioned Kwanza PERSON...

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For Liverpool ORG, you mean? Yeah, when I mentioned Kwanza PERSON, he said, oh, do you know what? He's done that well, and I forget about him being a young player. You just don't really think of it as that anymore.

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It's 32, 33 appearances, isn't this? Isn't it? For somebody who hadn't played for the senior team in such a position that's so important, you can have wide players and fallbacks and possibly attacking midfields doing that,but just centreback. You know, it's a key position in the team.

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Look at the games he's played. I mean, I think you've made this point before. All the key games. He's played against Man City ORG, hasn't he? Yeah, he's played against Arsenal ORG, as he? United ORG.United ORG. Obviously, you've done for Fernandez PERSON.

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Yeah, you go starts on the FA Cup when they won't. Yeah. You think of the key games he's played in which shows the trust he's heldand considering if we were having this conversation this time last season he wouldn't even be in the conversation with he and that's not a knock on him. That's just kind of where he was out was coming back from aloneat Bristol and I think he's done incredibly well so yeah it's probably

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a success story this season really

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wouldn't be too shocked if who signed a new contract

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yeah I think that's on the cards

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certainly there you go

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no VPN person of the week well done Gerald Quanta you're delighted yeah

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Harvey PERSON's a bit gutted though

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you'd like to tell his dad

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to be fair Harvey did a win at the week for

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and I think Harvey PERSON would have been in the running

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but I think Quanta the goal last night and stuff We know he's winning it next week by the way

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Yeah, yeah

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Spoiler

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We got the lifetime achievement

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We must have an odd lifetime

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Yeah

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Right well where can we find you Paul PERSON if we're looking for you

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At PT Ghost

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Yeah

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And where can we find you

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Ian Doyle PERSON if we're looking for you

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Don't go looking

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But if you want to At Ian Doyle PERSON, if we're looking for you? Don't go looking. But if you want to,

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at Ian Doyle's sport on Twitter ORG,

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and because I logged in incorrectly

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and can't remember my password,

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on the other things, it's Ian underscore Doyle underscore Sports PERSON.

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Yeah, or leave a nice comment on this video about him. You always check them, don't you always notice when I check them that you've replied to some of your fans?

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I don't always check them, but every now and again, I will reply. Especially if somebody says he's rubbish, I'll always say, I agree, we need less of him on this podcast.

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There you go. And I'm at Joe River, 88. So come and sail on.

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Me's here, off point. Yeah. Interesting. I'll be here there.

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Do you know what I forgot? How old was last week? I had to actually think about it.

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You're at 88. No, you're 87. I was good to when I found that it was 36 or not 35.

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Yeah.

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How old are you, Ian PERSON?

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57.

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Oh, there you go.

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There you go.

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Right, well, we will see you on Friday

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to preview Clops ORG' final game.

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An emotional podcast, I'm sure it'll be.

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And we'll be back then on Monday

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to look back on it.

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So, yeah, see you then.

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It's all right.

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You've been listening to the Blood Red ORG podcast

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from the Liverpool Echo ORG.